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March 6, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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BOMBSHELL! Edward Dowd Interviewed by Naomi Wolf on Covid Crime Against Humanity
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Hey, everyone.
Welcome.
It's Naomi Wolf of Daily Clout and I'm incredibly honored and excited, actually sort of thrilled, it's quite historic to have here with us today, Edward Dowd.
Welcome, Mr. Dowd.
Thank you for having me, Naomi.
Thank you so much for being here.
So Edward Dowd is, you know, hugely in the news right now.
He's kind of at the intersection of finance, Fraud scandal and massive current events.
He's the, you know, extraordinarily kind of courageous and well-informed whistleblower who has come forward to explain to audiences very actively in the last couple of weeks why, in his view, Pfizer has committed a fraud.
And he's also explained, and I'm not going to put words in his mouth, he's really good at explaining this himself, but He's been explaining to millions of people how this is sort of the third grade financial scandal, the third grade fraud that he has witnessed.
So I know you've done this a million times in the last few days, but please just briefly recapitulate your initial thesis, and then we can dive into the details.
Sure, no problem.
You know, I was very leery of taking the vaccine initially, only because I knew two things.
I didn't know what I know now, but I knew two things.
Operation Warp Anything seems like a disaster to me, just from an understanding of how things work.
Things get rushed, corners cut.
And then also, I know from my experience on Wall Street, that vaccines take usually seven to ten years.
of safety data before they were launched on the populace.
So with those two facts, I said to myself and a couple others on Wall Street also agreed, we'll wait.
Well, we won't take it.
We'll see what happens.
And fairly early on, April, May, June of 2021, we started hearing anecdotes.
And what you need to understand about anecdotes is they're anecdotes, but Statistically, any vaccine is going to cause some adverse reactions and or deaths, but they're so rare.
Statistically, you should never hear that happening in your circles.
So right away from a math perspective, I knew something was wrong, but I couldn't put my finger on it.
Then it came out in the fall that, and I learned this from a friend in the biotech industry, that Pfizer had failed its all-cause mortality endpoint in the initial trial.
They kind of really didn't go forward with that in the press release.
Imagine that.
They emphasized other data points, endpoints, so to speak, the fact that it was quote unquote 95% effective.
All-cause mortality is the gold standard in any drug trial at the FDA.
When you fail that endpoint, the drug's not approved.
So what did we find out?
Well, the Pfizer vaccine Killed more people or didn't kill but more more deaths occurred in the vaccine arm than in the placebo arm and that didn't come out until a FOIA request and a data dump in late November and the press didn't pick up on it and that's when I really started to say that fraud was committed.
I got more loud about fraud when the FDA decided to hide the clinical data for 75 years.
So, you know, when I'm an investor, so let me just say how I think about the world.
I don't wait for people to tell me what just happened.
My job was to come up with an analyst mosaic and investment thesis.
And then over time, I'd be proven right.
So, I don't wait for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, or the Washington Post to tell me anything, because by the time that happens, the opportunity to make money is lost.
So, I started screaming fraud as soon as I saw that, because it's unprecedented to hide data from the public.
So, I said, that's a cover-up, that's fraud.
And then, I made the analogy to the great financial crisis, The fraud in the Great Financial Crisis, the real estate fraud, was perpetrated not by just the banks.
They needed a third-party trusted institution to do that, and that was the rating agencies.
So the people who ultimately bought these bonds in the Great Financial Crisis trusted the rating agencies.
So that's why they didn't look too hard or long at the bonds being sold to them by Wall Street.
So, I made the analogy, and it looks like it's proving out to be true, that the FDA is the third-party trusted institution, and Pfizer needed them to commit this fraud.
I went on Steve Bannon's show, and I said I wanted to be a lightning rod.
And a lot of people took that to mean that I was going to, you know, get attacked by, you know, the drug companies.
And no, what I meant was I wanted people to reach out to me.
And Brooke Jackson, a whistleblower in the clinical trial data that came out in November, She came forward in November with the British Medical Journal.
She came forward and she gave them all the receipts, all the documentation.
They published an article that made a little bit of noise, but then it was quickly censored by the tech overlords and the mainstream media didn't even talk about it or even reach out to her.
So she called me, reached out to me because I was the first person she heard to say fraud.
And so I talked to her for three hours.
And there's so much fraud that it actually overwhelms you.
This is the problem.
So a lot of people, and this is what I do, I sort data, then I figure out what's the most relevant part.
And what I figured out, and she would agree, is that her clinical trial, her 1,000 patients, were unblinded.
And when you unblind, when you unblind, it should be tossed out.
The data should be tossed out.
And Pfizer's own protocols state that as well.
So she brought this to the attention of her other colleagues.
That's when the tone with her changed.
There was a cover-up call to just hide this.
She decided to whistleblow.
She went to the FDA, reported it anonymously in the morning at 9 a.m.
She was fired six hours later.
Then, several days later, a Pfizer attorney who we've identified as Mark Barnes, who apparently is a swamp creature that goes way back to all sorts of things, contacted her.
She never talked to him.
Ben went to go file a suit with the FDA, a whistleblower suit, and the FDA kept kicking the can down the road.
That's why we didn't hear from her until she decided to whistleblow in November.
Her attorney fired her because you're not supposed to talk about cases like this.
You're locked down from speaking.
But she felt it was so important, she decided to go against her attorney's advice and she came public.
So this is where we are.
So the data is fraud.
The whole thing is fraud.
And let me just give you some simple math on this.
The naysayers will say, oh, it's only 1,000 patients of the 44,000 that were in the original clinical trial.
In the vaccine, there was only a 28-day trial.
And they came up with a 95% efficacy number that we all heard about.
And that's how they sold it to us.
They came up with that number with these patient results.
Eight in the vaccine group over only a 28-day study, which is ridiculous on its face, 28 days.
Eight patients in the vaccine group got COVID.
164 in the placebo group got COVID, so that's how they calculated 95% efficacy.
Right.
So, let's just take her thousand patients.
When you unblind, the doctors knew The patient status on the chart.
So, they'd look on the chart and on the chart would say vaccinated or unvaccinated.
That's not supposed to happen.
Yeah.
So, what basically could have happened and likely happened was the doctor, someone would come in saying they're not feeling well.
The doctor wouldn't test them for COVID because they saw they were vaccinated.
So, while they're vaccinated, they probably don't have COVID.
So, mathematically, all you need are 75 Of the 164 placebo, move it over to the vaccinated column.
That's 50% efficacy.
You move over all 164 over, that's 0% efficacy.
So we don't need, mathematically, the other sites to come forward.
But I will say this, where there's smoke, there's fire.
So it calls into question the whole trial.
So I started screaming fraud.
I also knew that Unfortunately, I knew in the summer that we would start if this was the if this vaccine was as deadly and injurious as we thought we'd see the insurance companies and the funeral home results.
These are databases that aren't Being hidden from us by the government.
So unfortunately, in early January, a signal was launched by One America.
The CEO didn't really know what he was saying, or the implications of it, because he didn't think it was the vaccine.
But he got on a Chamber of Commerce call in Indiana, and he said that in the second half of 2021, he was seeing a 40% increase in all-cause mortality, non-COVID.
And to put some meat on those bones, that 10% increase, he said, would be a three standard deviation, which in math, in my world, is a big deal.
40% is a once in a 200 year flood.
And for your audience, I want you to understand, I want them to understand that insurance death rates are pretty steady.
And even in 2020, I mean, it went up a little bit, but it was not what we were seeing in 2021.
These death rates are just not that hard.
I mean, they're very steady.
So this kind of increase is cataclysmic.
It was also discovered that younger people were dying faster than older people.
And then the results of his revelations were confirmed in other companies' results in the second week of February, when I started getting very public And my media profile took off.
So Wall Street is listening to me now because they're nervous.
And a lot of them are jabbed as well.
And if you look at the stocks of Moderna and Pfizer, Moderna is down 70% and Pfizer is down 20 plus percent.
And so my goal has been to raise consciousness across the country and the globe By pointing out that even though the mainstream media is not going to save us, doesn't seem like the politicians are or the regulators because they're in on it.
We have to spread the word and there's nothing more convincing, even though a lot of people seem to be in this mass psychosis formation and are entrenched.
If you can point out that Wall Street's getting nervous, it might change your mind, save a life.
That's my goal.
Let me jump.
So thank you for that.
Extremely eloquent and comprehensive summary, you touched on everything I wanted you to kind of update our viewers about.
Let me jump in and add, you know, one of the reasons I think obviously your impact has been global already is how highly credentialed you are from The space about which you're speaking.
And I want to speak about that.
I was so excited to start talking to you that I didn't read your bio, which I intended to.
And previously you held positions as a portfolio manager with that FIM group.
And then as a, and also as a portfolio manager and managing director with BlackRock from 2002 to 2012, Mr. Dowd successfully grew BlackRock's growth strategy from $2 billion to $14 billion.
Over 10 years.
Right.
So you obviously like your methodology of looking closely at primary source documentation.
Correct.
Obviously works.
And I think I remember watching your initial interview about this on War Room.
And it was when you made the analogy with tech stocks, that and and when you made the analogy with, you know, those bad housing products that were being rubber stamped, you know, A plus, A plus or triple A.
Even I, as a layperson, understood that you were saying the FDA is supposed to be the validator for legitimate value and safety and efficacy, right?
Correct. in the world.
the world of pharmaceutical products and they were in the tank with pharma, the way that these other corrupted institutions that were supposed to be validating or not validating were in the tank with the things that led to dramatic implosions.
Have I summarized accurately what, you know, the analogy was about? - Absolutely.
And just for your audience, I wanna talk about how does that happen?
Is it a bunch of evil men in a room, chomping on a cigar, laughing hysterically, No, it happens over time and it involves money.
In the great financial crisis, something occurs.
It's called the institutional imperative.
And this is what Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger talked about.
In all great frauds and companies, what happens is, over time, the institution gets corrupted, and people in the institution see other people doing bad things, it becomes normalized.
And the institution as a whole, through very many small decisions, people getting promoted to do bad things, this is how you get rewarded.
The institution as a whole acts for the benefit of the Institution rather than the stakeholders in the case of the FDA or within a corporation for the shareholders.
So they start to act for themselves.
And it doesn't happen all at once, but it happens slowly.
And what we do know about the FDA is that 50% of their budget comes from the pharmaceutical industry.
Okay, 50%.
And we've known for years that there's been a revolving door at the FDA.
And so the institution over time You weren't rewarded for doing the right thing.
You were rewarded for doing the wrong thing.
And people saw that and people started to copy that.
If you remember, there were two FDA officials who resigned in the fall.
I do remember them.
Yes, I do.
And I haven't talked to them, but I'm probably guessing they're good people and they're disgusted.
That's probably my guess.
Okay, so that's how this fraud, and it's important to understand for this fraud to be perpetrated across the country and the mass psychosis that's taken hold.
Doctors don't do Deep dives into clinical data.
Most of them don't even have backgrounds in statistical analysis.
They rely on the FDA.
And, you know, so some of these doctors, you know, they were sucked into this and they pushed these vaccines.
They pushed the 95% efficacy, which is fraud on its face.
And they didn't know.
I mean, this is how a fraud like this can get perpetrated.
A third party trusted institution falls.
That's where we are.
And I think this is the greatest crime ever committed because most of the frauds I've been involved with are financial frauds where money's lost.
This has killed and maimed people.
And this is tragic.
And unfortunately, it's so big, it'll bring down so many institutions that it's going to be we the people that expose this by putting pressure on politicians who then rat on their drug pharma partners that give them money.
Gotcha.
Well, let me unpack some of what you just said.
Because it, you know, it is stunning and I am persuaded that this is the greatest crime I can think of in, you know, in modern history, certainly.
Right.
It's the tip of the iceberg that we're seeing now.
First, let me ask, how is it possible that 50% of the FDA's budget comes from pharma?
I mean, how does our government agency allow so much private money or any private money To be part of its budget, that's an unusual structure, isn't it?
So, like anything, it started off innocently years ago when they allowed this to happen.
I don't remember the exact date, but it was explained.
So since I've been involved in this, lots of things have been explained to me.
Um, uh, the, the, the, there were so many drugs coming to market, um, and his staff was X amount of people and, uh, they started, They just were, there was a backlog, I believe.
And so what they decided to do was the pharmaceutical companies would pay licensing fees when they would, you know, file for a drug.
And that just kept growing and growing and growing.
So it was a, it was a, it was a, it was a way to prop up the, the, the staff of the FDA and their ability to analyze, but then it turned into something else.
Inevitably.
Right.
So now I want to ask you, thank you for that.
I want to ask, and of course, the potential for corruption in a structure like that is very clear.
And I just want to throw in that the CDC has something called the CDC Foundation, which takes $10 million a year from pharma and $12 million a year from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Of course, they're invested in vaccines.
And there are other kind of, like at Daily Clout, we read
The bills every week, and I see again and again, this model, which is kind of a recipe for corruption, public private partnerships, quote unquote, that allow the private stakeholder to exert pressure on the outcome that should be, you know, just serving the taxpayers, you know, and, and now I want to say something else, which is the data that you're talking about, not Pfizer's data, but the CDC data,
And the FDA data that belongs by law to the people of the United States.
So I just want to bring to your attention before I go on to my next question, the fact that I don't know if you're aware that Dr. Henry Ely and two state senators, State Senator Dennis Linthicum and State Senator Kim Thatcher of Oregon have filed a grand jury petition demand with attorneys general and it's been accepted.
For willful misconduct.
This is against CDC, not FDA, but for willful misconduct in their handling of the data that they were responsible for.
And I, I've looked at what they did and it's shocking.
I just want to tell you to add, you know, I get her like I have something for you.
It's shocking.
The CDC, and we're seeing this, I'm seeing this in other entities, like the COVID dashboards that I don't want to bore you with right now, but when, If you have more time at another time, it is awesome.
But what the CDC did was that they hired or they created contracts with corrupted nonprofits, in this case, CSTE, the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists, and that's a Gates-funded entity, right?
But the nonprofit was hired to manage The digital presentation of the CDC data.
And so they mishandled it.
They cherry-picked it.
They misrepresented it.
But the CDC was able to say, oh, we're just, you know, linking to these studies, but they show what we want to show.
So that's illegal.
That's an unlawful chain of custody of CDC data.
So I just wanted to share that with you, that what many people are seeing And you're seeing it's like an elephant, right?
You've got a hold of a giant part of this elephant.
Other people are also looking at systematic mishandling of data, cherry picking of data and unlawful corruption of data using third parties in this whole kind of massive crime.
Now, I want to go back to what you did, Mr. Dowd.
So you're super, super, super brave.
And one of the things you've done is said unequivocally, not mincing words, This is fraud.
So if you're not right, that's actionable, I believe.
And Pfizer and Moderna could come at you with a, you know, libel suit or a slander suit.
But I believe that has not happened yet.
Will you speak to that?
I mean, why are you so confident in using a term that is certainly attention grabbing?
I'm persuaded.
But, you know, if it's wrong, would expose you to legal action.
Well, that's interesting.
So, I don't have a medical license to take away.
I don't have a bar license to take away.
I'm an investor, okay?
And throughout the history of Wall Street, investors have what we call a thesis.
So, I'm presenting this as a thesis.
I'm 100% convinced it's fraud.
I've laid out my case, and it's starting to appear that it's coming to light that it is.
But I can say this.
It's freedom of speech.
They can sue me if they want.
I don't suspect they will.
In fact, I was waiting for a hit piece on me.
I haven't had one yet.
And the AP fact-checked me on the insurance stuff that I came up with.
And they didn't name me.
They said internet chatter.
I'm now known as internet chatter.
So I quite honestly think they don't know what to do with me because I touch on Wall Street and, you know, I'm presenting this as an investment thesis.
Right.
And an investment thesis is free speech.
Right.
Wow.
That's what this is my thesis.
I'm convincing lots of people I may be right.
And the actions speak louder than words.
And look, here's the problem.
The proof of the fraud is showing up in real life results.
And that is becoming undeniable and impossible to hide.
And there's other players involved now, insurance companies, and their stocks aren't doing well of late.
And I don't know if your audience is aware of this, but last week, a German A board member of the insurance company BKK came out and said that the government of Germany is underreporting vaccine injuries, not deaths, injuries by 10 to one.
If you turn that into, um, a, um, uh, they imputed from their 11 million people that, uh, two and a half to 3 million Germans had a severe injury that was reported to them that weren't a real life claim was made.
Okay.
Now that they imputed the full population, they have 11 million in their population, something like 400,000 came forward.
So they went, they did the math, so they suspected two and a half to three million Germans Had some sort of, uh, injury that sent them to a doctor, um, for a claim.
And that, uh, is 3.6% of the population of Germany, which is 83 million people.
So that's one in 25 Germans.
Wow.
So I don't know of any product, uh, in the history of the world that's ever been approved that has that kind of, uh, Side effect profile, 1 in 25.
That's never happened.
Yeah.
And he's not even accounting for deaths, right?
Just injuries.
No, just injuries.
And then they called in other insurance companies to come forward because it's the ethical thing to do.
I just learned today the board member who brought this forward has been fired.
Yes.
Wow!
Yeah, but the cat is out of the bag.
The cat is out of the bag.
So I'm not worried about being sued.
And as you know, if they sue me, there's discovery.
So that's what you're getting at, I think.
If I am sued, there's discovery.
No, I'm kind of impressed that it's been like two weeks now since you've been saying this.
And I'm not aware of, again, no hit pieces, no lawsuits, as far as I know.
That, to me, as every day goes by, suggests that you're You're standing on something solid.
Well, exactly.
And I think they want to, someone like me, you know, Steve Bannon asked, why is, has anybody from the mainstream media CNBC or anything reached out to me?
Crickets.
Wow.
Crickets.
They, they don't, they don't know what to do with me.
Um, and, uh, you know, there've been other great short sellers that have exposed frauds, you know, channels.
Steve Chanos came out and exposed the Enron fraud.
And you can say as investors, we can say fraud.
Yeah, because and it's a thesis.
It's not, you know, and then people in the world of Wall Street will bet with their capital.
Right, right.
All right.
Well, let's okay.
Wow.
This is just of head splitting dimensions.
So let I have so many questions.
It's like a it's like a Greek tragedy, but on a kind of Multivalent global scale.
It's like the drama is unfolding all around the world on multiple levels, the layers and layers of criminality.
If you're right, and from what I've seen you, you are right.
And there are dimensions to this to add to it.
Are, you know, they lasted for months and months.
It's global.
There are thousands of people are involved.
So let's go back to the institutional imperative of the government is different from the institutional imperative of A private company like Pfizer or Moderna.
Why, in your thesis, would people like Rochelle Walensky, people like Anthony Fauci, government employees, be willing to kind of implicate themselves in If not initiating fraud, covering it up or sustaining it, or even now, like, you know, CDC, FDA to this very day are presenting fraudulent data.
We just covered it on this morning's War Room, right?
A bad study, you know, to do more bad science, to harm children in more criminal ways.
Why are they not at this point backtracking, consulting their lawyers, covering their tracks, Or why, I should say, six months ago, when surely there was evidence of this internally, why do they keep saying safe and effective, safe and effective?
You know, that's a mystery to me.
That'll come out later.
But as you know, Walensky, she may be a dupe.
She may not know any better.
She's in a political appointee, correct?
Yes.
Yeah.
So the people below her, institutions are strange things.
She may have had no idea.
I'm not letting her off the hook.
You know, there's things that go on, especially when you're a political appointee, that bureaucracy will hide stuff from you to protect itself.
I mean, I hear you.
I'm going to push back gently on that.
I did an analysis of the V-safe study, which was the basis of Rochelle Walensky, FDA, CDC, saying that the vaccine is, quote unquote, safe and effective for pregnant women and babies.
And it's one of the most fraudulent, to add to the fraud, It was a self-reported phone app in which they winnowed out the demographics of women who have bad outcomes with pregnancy disproportionately.
They left it up to the subjects to self-report by calling a call center outcomes like Gestational diabetes, my baby was born without, you know, without limbs, my baby was blue, like, they left it up to the women to self-report that, in addition to a bunch of other flaws and nonsense.
So, you know, if I as a lay person can read that and tell how bad that is, I don't, I don't think it's possible to say that someone like Rochelle Walensky, or let's take Anthony Fauci, right, were unaware that fraud was taking place.
I thought she's not unaware.
I'm not going to let him off the hook.
So why would they keep going?
You know, so I hear you say you don't know, but any theories about why they would just keep going and implicate themselves further and further?
Yeah, well, so let's assume they all knew and they thought Well, Fauci already has his own network of gathering monies, but maybe Michelle Walensky thought this would be a plum job at Pfizer, you know, after she left government.
So she kept her mouth shut.
But here's the thing.
I suspect what's going on is they know they're caught.
And, you know, you have a choice when you're caught.
You either, you know, come clean or you triple down.
I mean, we're in the triple down phase.
Right.
And, you know, this Ukraine war, you know, we can all talk about the timing of it, but there seems to be a total pivot going on.
And, you know, tonight I put out a tweet saying what I expected the POTUS or the Puppet Master to do tonight.
And what he's going to do is declare victory on COVID.
He's going to now highlight the new Russian Hitler.
Talk about how we need to worry about cyber hackers and the internet being taken down.
These are all, and also he'll throw in some environmental climate stuff, but COVID's over tonight.
We're gonna hear that.
Yeah, I'm sure you're right.
Sadly, I'm sure you're right.
Okay, so this is tripling down.
All right, well, let me go back to Pfizer.
Am I interrupting you?
Sorry.
No, not at all.
Go ahead.
So, okay, let's go to Pfizer.
So they surely knew, you know, even before the rollout of the vaccine from what you're describing, but certainly one, two, three, four months in that there were serious harms, damages, off the charts harms.
To people.
Why would they keep going?
Purely for commercial reasons, like with the housing bubble, but with human bodies as the collateral?
Well, you know, it's again, it's the institution.
When the whole institution gets corrupted, And look, I'm not going to let the CEO off the hook.
I mean, when you can make that kind of money, you're responsible for what happens underneath you.
So no matter what happens, he's responsible.
But, you know, the C-suite doesn't like to hear bad news.
And sometimes the bad news doesn't filter up.
I mean, this does happen.
And the momentum, you've got to remember the momentum of all this.
Um, just starts to take on a life of its own.
And then they started, I think, getting excited.
Well, if this gets manned, because I did an analysis, if this gets mandated globally, right, and we have to do, they started doing the math in their head, they got greedy.
And we have to do quarterly injections.
I mean, the math on this was, if we did quarterly injections and got Um, you know, four billion of the seven or five billion of the seven billion on the planet to get on this scheme of quarterly injections.
It was 350 billion in revenue to Pfizer.
Their current revenue is 52 billion.
So this, this, this is just good old fashioned greed and power.
And they, and I think they thought they had a lock because the government was behind them and they just, and it becomes this, you know, you know, you're talking to the same people, you're in a bubble.
Deep down, you know, something's off.
I mean, you know, it's, it's, it may, you know, yeah, there'll be some adverse reactions and some deaths, and maybe the data's not as good as we thought, but I don't think, I think somewhere around this summer, early fall, they started to get horrified.
And, you know, yeah, the CFO of Pfizer, Lou D'Amalio, was a character from the dot-com boom.
Lou D'Amalio was at Lucent.
He was the CFO of Lucent during that scandal when the stock went down to 56 cents.
Somehow, Lou became the CFO of Pfizer.
Now, Lou isn't a CFO.
He's the numbers guy.
There's no accounting fraud in Pfizer.
There's data fraud in Pfizer.
But I think Lou saw what was going on.
He said, I've seen this movie before, and I'm going to leave.
He left in November.
Wow.
He retired.
Now, I don't know what Lou knew, but Lou knew something.
And because if things were, if this was a great product and really did what it did, and we were going to, you know, mandate quarterly jabs and the world would go on, he would, he would have been leaving so much money on the table.
Right.
In future stock options and grants.
Right, right.
So, you know, you don't retire if that's coming.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you think Francis Collins stepped aside for a similar reason?
Yeah, I think he doesn't want to be around when this thing... Look, people are not dumb, and he left because he knew this is going to be a disaster.
And, you know, you're starting to see all sorts of different movements going on.
And, you know, you highlighted on Bannon Show, I watched you today.
You highlighted on Bannon Show, you know, the memo went out.
The memo went out.
They're going to try to run away from this as fast as possible.
And their next move is they're going to try to pivot and blame Trump for this.
So that's next.
I would expect that.
All right.
So I get the $300 billion incentive To not stop this runaway train from a Pfizer point of view, but which came first?
I mean, governments floating the mandating of the vaccines or Pfizer floating the mandating of the vaccines to governments.
I mean, that's a new thing.
That's a new kind of.
Breach in the wall of personal autonomy and integrity of the body in the West so that mandating thing where you know where was the political directive for that coming from Pfizer can't mandate that I take estrogen or that I take, you know, God so many things that could mandate.
You know, diabetes injections or asthma, you know, inhalers, it can't mandate that.
So, in your analysis of this, where's that coercive element coming from?
Usually comes from the private sector, getting the government to do its bidding for some reason, but you seem to be saying that it was the other way around?
No, I mean, I suspect there was lots of lobbying for mandates by Pfizer and Moderna.
Well, Pfizer has a bigger war chest than Moderna.
Moderna is a one product, one trick pony that came out of nowhere.
By the way, that's a sketchy company.
We can go into that some other time.
But that company was always thought of as pretty sketchy on Wall Street.
And this literally is their first product.
Well, that I'm aware of.
Let me push a little more on the mandates thing because it involves Wall Street, right?
Like this new model of get the government to force people to consume something.
It's a goldmine for investors, right?
If you ride the horse that the government will mandate people accept or buy or use That's a whole intervention in capitalism, let alone personal autonomy.
So, I guess, I'm not really sure what my question is, but as an investor, you know, it almost takes sort of special, sorry, special ethics for you to say, you know, even though this mandate model could be, you know, minting money for people in the know forever, this is not, this is a bet against freedom long term.
Do you want to speak to that?
Absolutely.
First of all, this is what I call fascism.
Mussolini has a great quote.
He said that, you know, fascism is really corporatism and government together.
Okay.
And so this is fascism.
Straight up.
I mean, this is the classic model of fascism in World War Two.
Hitler's Germany and Mussolini.
Merged with the industrialists to create what they created.
Okay, this is this is historical record.
So we have modern day fascism.
I've been calling that out on Twitter for even before I knew there was fraud and calling it out.
It's fascism.
And, you know, when I went on Bannon's show, I said to Wall Street, I go, look, you know, this may be great, but if you're long these stocks and own them, you're long, you're selling your freedoms and you're selling your bodily autonomy. you're selling your freedoms and you're selling your bodily autonomy.
So, you know, be careful what you wish for.
Exactly.
You know, so I'm trying to change the conversation.
I think my greatest contribution is to give people cover because I couch it in terms of an investment thesis.
So I say it, then they can talk to it and we can bring up new conversations that other people don't want to talk about because they feel like they will be made to look crazy.
Well, I'm not crazy, and I'm good at this, and I hope I'm providing a lot of cover for people to now speak out.
I understand what you're saying.
Let me ask you though as a citizen like to so you're in my view quite heroic.
You've done a great public service.
You're doing a great public service.
I'm pushing a little bit and let me explain what I mean.
So having been in the rooms where masters of the universe hang out, right?
One thing I'm aware of is that people who are vastly wealthy and whose vast wealth depends on market forces, you know, want to limit risk no matter what.
Correct.
And they don't see suppression of ordinary people's life options the way that ordinary people might, many of them, if the upside is A diminution of risk.
That's my experience.
I'm not asking you to agree with him.
So, why I bring that up is.
I kept looking at Bloomberg, right?
And at the way that Bloomberg funds the Johns Hopkins COVID dashboard, which I've analyzed and it's a nonsensical dashboard.
The, uh, the people doing his graphic designer.
GHS is graphic design.
For the dashboard leaked to me the data sets because I was asking on Twitter, where's the raw data?
Where's the raw data?
My company builds digital dashboards out of government data, so I know what's supposed to be there, and none of these dashboards have the raw data sets to look at.
None of them.
They're all impaired, okay?
So the whole pandemic has unfolded on the basis of unverifiable data, which is another nerdy subject we can get into another time, relevant to what you're saying.
My point is, Bloomberg funded the Johns Hopkins database.
That was the one that all the major media reporting on the pandemic used and cited.
Unverifiable, six states reporting when the data sets were leaked to me.
Bloomberg showed that map and those trends, you know, that graph line on their Bloomberg homepage.
And right underneath it, he showed Stock performances and global other financial instrument performances.
And what was very obvious is that there was a relationship between them.
And where I'm going with this is that if you're one of the six tech bros who funded or built the digital dashboards that everyone was using, you could legally bet on a bunch of sectors if you knew the data that was going to be released Half an hour before everyone else knew it.
I just want your thoughts about that.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I what I've seen.
Looking at markets and investors and investment opportunities is that I'm scared that that Wall Street and just kind of investors generally have gotten addicted to the way in which pandemic policy And the construction of these unverifiable instruments allows people to dial down their risk.
Oh, you know that there's going to be, you know, an enforcement of masking in schools, you bet on 3M.
You know, there was a day, I mean, just give you one more example, then I'll stop talking.
I'm a tiny, tiny investor in real estate.
Right.
Like many, you know, single people, single parents, many immigrants, one investment, right?
That one asset.
So I follow the real estate market.
And there was this one day in January of this past year when property values in Harlem dropped 20%.
And I thought this is related to the pandemic.
It all happened at once at every property I looked at.
And it was literally two weeks after the CDC Lifted their six-month moratorium on evictions and all these small landlords like me, right, not the big institutional investors, not the people buying up residential real estate, tiny people like me, they couldn't hold on anymore without any rental income.
So January 1st, they finally were allowed to evict their tenants who weren't paying rent.
They had two weeks to paint and then they put their tiny assets on the market In a fire sale to be scooped up by respectfully BlackRock and other investors.
So I guess where I'm going with that is isn't this addictive, right?
Like, like, isn't it going to be very hard?
For Wall Street and institutional investors to let go of pandemic policies, to let go of COVID dashboards, to let go of this intervention in capitalism that dials down so much risk and that lets insiders who know legally what the data are going to say, you know, invest in or bet on the data without much risk.
Well, there's a little explanation of what Wall Street is.
A lot of people think Wall Street is this giant cabal where everyone's rich.
It's not true.
There are lots of institutions where people are fighting for a share of the pine to grow their assets.
So there's many institutions competing against each other for what we call outperformance of an index.
And so a lot of people on Wall Street were mandated to get jabbed.
And a lot of people in those firms were not happy about that.
And not everyone, you know, there could be a tiny club of people who have access to the data like you suggested.
If everybody knows the data, you can't make any money.
So it has to be a small group of insiders.
So most of Wall Street, the good news is, isn't in on this.
Right, right.
Not every hedge fund got the call.
Not every, you know, even some big hedge funds may not have gotten the call.
It's a very tiny group of people that are manipulating anything like what you just alluded to, which I haven't looked into, but I wouldn't doubt it has occurred.
I mean, there was a lot of Weird things going on in 2020 and 2021 in terms of Wall Street.
And with all the free money floating around that the Fed printed.
But here's the thing.
My potential future business partner was tracking an index.
He called it the Davos Index.
And it was our tech overlords and some other stocks.
And the good news is the Davos Index is starting to severely underperform.
So what's going on is...
This momentum to take away all our freedoms and all these insiders thinking that they were in on the game and they were going to win.
They didn't expect you.
They didn't expect me.
They didn't expect Ben.
And they didn't expect the thousands and thousands and millions of people that are out there that are showing up to protest things.
And they also didn't expect or I don't think they knew.
Some of them didn't know, but they didn't expect the bodies, unfortunately, to start piling up that are.
And it's becoming unavoidable.
So like the evidence of their fraud is now in the real world.
We can go back and find it.
But that's I knew this would happen if I was right.
And unfortunately, it did.
And so the good news is over the weekend, a friend of mine who has been on board with me and didn't take the vaccine and smelled something funny, said an old colleague of his reached out to him who's still managing billions of dollars and said, I saw Ed on a video recently.
And.
Yeah.
He may be on to something.
So this is you get to understand the mass formation psychosis affected everybody.
Everybody.
I understand.
I get it.
And and what you've described is the nature of oligarchy, right?
Like a handful of people may, you know, the Davos people, their friends, Microsoft guy, you know, Facebook guy may have been in on the big picture and the call didn't go out to other, you know, very influential important players in our society who are Angry and upset and excluded, you know, and maybe harmed.
So that's super, super important.
Can I jump in with a follow-up question on top?
So let's talk about Moderna.
All right.
Why do you, you saw a different outcome for Pfizer than for Moderna.
You saw bankruptcy for one and just collapse.
Yeah, so Moderna is a single product company.
All their revenues come from the mRNA vaccine.
Wow, the evidence is coming in.
It's a disaster.
Eventually, this will get pulled.
And the mRNA technology is being discredited because part of their story was they're going to be able to take this and then apply it to all sorts of other different diseases.
And you're going to take vaccines.
It makes no sense, but that was the plan.
So that just, and they're going to get, and if we can prove fraud, I'm not saying, I don't know anything about Moderna's clinical trials.
But if Pfizer falls, you make the assumption that Moderna had the same issues.
So I'm not speaking to Moderna's clinical trials, but Moderna will be wrapped up in this and it goes to zero because no one will ever take an mRNA vaccine again.
So that's a donut.
That's what we say on Wall Street, a donut is zero.
A donut, yeah.
And then Pfizer is a multi-product company.
They will be sued, I think, eventually.
And so the litigation will take the stock, you know, into the low, the low single digits, and then they'll spend years litigating and then they'll finally get a settlement and the stock will go back up.
That's how that works.
Wow.
So are you saying, Mr. Dowd, that Immunity will be lifted because of fraud, which is a point you made before.
And so everyone who's been harmed by the mRNA vaccines can sue Pfizer.
That's what you foresee?
It's not even that.
So a lot of these governments across the globe entered into contracts with Pfizer and Moderna.
And if fraud is proven, it vitiates all contracts.
And that's case law.
When you enter into a contract, And one party has been defrauded, the contract's broken.
So immunity will be broken.
And governments, not only will individuals sue, governments are going to sue.
This is a, this is a, this is the, the, the daisy chain effects from this are mind boggling.
And it's almost like, that's why I say we're on our own for now, because it'll take down the FDA, the CDC, the NIH.
It'll take down many politicians' careers.
Global governments will be shaking to the core.
This is a problem.
It's a big problem.
And it seems like you're saying we don't need the government, which has abandoned us to investigate this.
It would be nice.
We don't need the media, which has been completely corrupted by Pharma and Gates money to Disclose this, they've been help, you know, pointless and helpless as we see now.
You're saying this is going to happen just alone from private movements, from the movements of money, from the movements of shareholders, from... Yes, yes.
So Wall Street's always earlier than most because it's a collective wisdom of many people.
And what's going on is there's enough Things that are concerning portfolio managers.
You may not believe what I believe.
They may not believe it's fraud, but they're seeing things.
And so what they do is they sell a little bit.
So the pressure's on these stocks.
Eventually, the revelations will come to light, and then we'll see the waterfall begin on these stocks.
So it's slowly starting to happen.
What's the water for the devaluation?
So usually a stock will downtrend, then some big news will come out and it'll do that.
It's the waterfall.
So right now they're in downtrends because people are starting to understand that something's wrong.
Maybe not everyone's buying off on what I believe or you believe, but they're starting to say, Maybe this Ed character's onto something, let's look into it.
And by the way, this is the way the money management works.
If you start to get doubtful of a position you hold in your portfolio, and you say, well, I don't believe it 100%, but I'm gonna sell a little bit.
So they sell a little bit, then they do their own work.
So that's what we're seeing.
People are starting to sell a little bit.
I see, okay.
And so, but I do believe, this is what I believe.
This is what I believe.
Um, we don't need the media.
We don't need, uh, the government regulators to rescue us.
This is going to be word of mouth.
It's going to be the independent media.
And unfortunately, the sad thing is they can't hide the bodies and then people are going to talk about this and this is going to spread like wildfire.
And that's why they need distractions.
That's why they need to walk away from COVID, uh, tonight.
I mean, this is, this is, this is, it's going to be a ground grassroots effort, but the word spreading and word of mouth is spreading.
Yeah, well, no small thanks to you.
So let me wrap up with just two last questions.
You've been super generous with your time.
What's the role of big tech in this, from your understanding?
Like, they've consistently, from the start, protected the FDA, protected Anthony Fauci.
I got deplatformed when I, you know, Posted a document, primary source document that showed that Dr. Fauci was lying in, you know, to the Senate.
They de-platform people who talk about therapeutics, they de-platform, you know, many doctors that you and I probably both respect who have been trying to raise the alarm about some of these side effects.
I get why Pfizer and Moderna would be covering themselves, trying to hide negative information.
Why is Facebook and Twitter, why are social media companies involved in this?
Well, you know, look, there's two schools of thought.
I'll just go with the easiest one for people to understand.
It's greed.
The tech overlords were inundated with I mean, on my Twitter feed, I get constant ads for pharmaceutical drugs.
And I think they also were licking their chops at the prospect of future revenues from surveillance technologies to mandate all this stuff.
So the reason why this fraud is so hard to grasp, I've called it a meta fraud, a multi-siloed fraud.
So you have the fraud originated with Pfizer, in my opinion.
You have the government involved through institutional corruption and revolving door policies.
And then you have the media and MSM who are getting monies from pharma.
And so they all, maybe not with full knowledge, but they had incentives to not disseminate the real information and to be basically nothing more than pitchmen for these products, especially the MSM.
Will there be liability or legal or shareholder exposure for big tech and for media?
I believe the six major media companies that control MSM plus tech overlords, the tech companies, my personal opinion, they're complicit, they're accomplices to murder via censorship.
Just on the early treatments alone, the vaccine stuff will come, but the suppression of early treatment, I mean, Dr. Malone has cited a study that shows at least 500,000 people didn't need to die.
So, you know, censorship, I've been so outspoken against censorship going way back to when they took off Alex Jones.
I said, this is the beginning.
He's the test case.
He's the test case.
And censorship is one of the most insidious things.
I mean, we know how word ends.
And it began with Alex Jones and it's only accelerated to anybody that doesn't agree with whatever the regime wants to, you know, parent that month.
Right.
So do you think investors are going to start shorting or taking money out of, forgive me if I'm not using the right language, big Yeah, well look, Facebook already went down 25% on its most recent earnings.
I noticed that, and you think that's top of the list?
So Wall Street doesn't always act, I mean it's a collective wisdom of many people, but I think what's going on is this with Facebook.
Due to the censorship, lots of people have decided to walk away from Facebook, so their growth is slowing.
So through the actions of many of us slowly, It's affected Facebook.
And that's what, you know, I knew Facebook was in trouble in November when they tried to rebrand themselves as meta.
That's what we call a tell, because they wanted to pivot to a new, because they saw internally their growth getting decimated.
And so this, what they're doing is actually killing their own brand.
Twitter is, Twitter stock has been a disaster.
Debtor's rise has been, so this is going on.
And so, It's taken a long time, but people like freedom, people don't like censorship, and it's going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
These platforms will just die.
YouTube is dead.
YouTube's dead.
Really?
I think.
So satisfying.
Wow.
It won't happen overnight, but it'll happen.
You know, God bless capitalism.
So, you've been so generous.
Final question, I promise.
I think we're in a time of heroes.
I think, you know, we're in a time that is separating the wheat from the chaff in terms of human respect for others and human courage.
May you share with our audience what led you to take the risks, to cross the line, to be the whistleblower in your Well, a couple things.
I've been aware of how the world really works for a long, long time, and I'm not really on the blue team or the red team.
I'm on Team Humanity.
inside of you to lead you personally to think, okay, I, Edward Dowd, I'm going to step forward.
I'm going to make this call.
I'm going to take the slings and arrows.
It's worth it.
Well, a couple of things.
I've been aware of how the world really works for a long, long time.
And I'm not, I'm not really on the blue team or the red team.
I'm on team humanity.
And when I saw what was going on, you know, I had a, I had a thesis as to what was going on You've heard me share about it.
We haven't talked about it here.
We can do another show on it.
But I said to myself, okay, I can't live in the world that they want to plan for me.
So I'm going to speak out or forever hold my peace.
And I was fortunate enough in September of last year to pray to God to ask me to be of service.
And through a series of coincidences, which I can only say are God, I hooked up with Dr. Malone and my voice was elevated.
And because of that, I'm just gonna keep going with this until it's over or I'm in a gulag.
That's where I'm going.
I don't care.
I mean, I'm just doing this because I have to.
I understand.
We're so grateful to you and I believe you.
I've started being kind of out with My own view of another kind of dimension in addition to this one, you know, recently, and I I believe that.
I think people are being called right now, and they're being called to tell the truth.
They're being called to take risks, and I know my audience is so grateful to you.
You know, the world is so grateful to you for, you know, listening, because you could have walked away, right?
I don't like the hero label.
There are many heroes.
There are many people involved, and I just want to give a shout out to all the people.
I have a team now, because I became a lightning rod.
I have people who, for personal reasons, can't go public, but they're They are helping me to deliver what I'm delivering to you.
I have an insurance industry analyst from Wall Street who's helping.
There are thousands and thousands.
The good news is, because it's gotten to this point, we're all finding each other.
And we are legion, we just haven't been talking to each other.
Now we are, and it's only accelerating.
And the, I don't want to call it the awakening, but the, you know, the awareness that the world is different than what you thought it was, is accelerating very quickly.
Wow.
Well, as my grandmother used to say, from your mouth to God's ears, it's even faster.
Edward Dowd, is there a project or some way people can help you, support you, something you want me to call Yeah, look, for now, my job is to do this, and I, you know, I'm not trying to pitch anything, but I will pitch my Twitter and Getter account where you can find my information.
My Getter account is at Edward Dowd, D-O-W-D, and my Twitter account for now.
I don't know.
I'm waiting for them to blow me up, blow me out of the water at any moment, but it's at Doud Edward, D-O-W-D Edward.
So I'm on Twitter for now, but I don't think for much longer, honestly.
Thank you so much.
I'm sure we'll, I hope and believe we'll speak again.
I can't thank you enough.
Everyone watching can't thank you enough.
And you, you know, just thank you for your service to humanity.
And I'm sure there's a, you know, many revelations to come.
Thank you, Edward Doud, sincerely.
Um, stay tuned.
We're working on something.
Fantastic.
Thank you.
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