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Jan. 16, 2022 - Jim Fetzer
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The Real Deal: Climate Change: Myth vs. Reality, Part 3 (15 January 2022) w Joe Olson, P.E
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This is Jim Fetzer welcoming you to a Real Deal Climate Change Special.
This is part three with Joe Olson, whose qualifications in this area are simply superb.
I begin by observing that Joe was a founder of Principia Scientific International, Which is making a real impact worldwide.
He is a visionary who knows history.
He knows science.
He knows engineering.
He's making a difference.
We have an initial news report for you about an explosion in the Pacific.
Joe, before I go there, would you like to say a few words?
No, today we're going to cover part of the fake debate by the lukewarmists, and we're also going to cover some other forcing factors that are far greater than anything human beings can do, and that's the astronomical forcing factors and the geologic forcing factors.
So let's go ahead and show a little bit of the today's geologic factor news.
Joe, here we have the development.
On January 15th, 2022 at 4.28 PM local time, the Hungatanga-Hungaha'apai volcano in the nation of Tonga produced its most powerful explosion ever recorded.
This explosion sent a sustained plume of ash more than 20 kilometers or 66,000 feet into the atmosphere, with small parts of the plume traveling further and reaching a height of 30 kilometers.
Due to this massive eruption, a powerful shockwave raced across large swaths of the Pacific Ocean, reaching all of Tonga and Vanuatu.
Several of my viewers reported hearing the blast as far away as in Auckland in New Zealand, and Brisbane in Australia.
Even further away, the energetic shockwave was picked up by backyard weather stations, which showed a measurable increase in pressure as far away as in Adelaide.
Back in the capital city of Tonga, tsunami warning sirens blared as buoys placed near the volcano detected an incoming wave.
15 minutes later, a 2.5 meter or 8 foot high tsunami struck the island of Tongatapu.
Several waves overtopped sea facing barriers, flooding tens of thousands of structures.
A tsunami warning was subsequently issued for parts of New Zealand, Australia, and Vanuatu.
These waves continued for a whopping 5000 kilometers, even causing a small 2.3 foot high wave to hit the Hawaiian island chain.
As the tsunami which hit Hawaii was taller than expected, a tsunami advisory was subsequently issued for the entire US west coast and Alaska.
If you live in those areas, it means that you should not under any circumstances be in the water or on a beach.
The expected 1 to 2 foot high tsunami could easily become a 10 foot high tsunami if very specific topography exists.
In other words, get away from the beach, especially if the sea starts to retreat which means that a tsunami is imminent.
What was just described is a still ongoing situation, and because this is very preliminary, there is a healthy dose of we don't know yet among scientists.
With this being said, here are my thoughts as to what just happened and how a tsunami was generated.
The Hungatanga island represents the emergent summit of a large stratovolcano which is mostly located below the ocean's surface.
Its several vents are centered around a caldera.
Calderas form when the magma chamber of a volcano is partially drained by a large volcanic eruption, causing the ground above the magma chamber to collapse downwards like a sinkhole.
This caldera is relevant because the recent eruptions at Hungatunga occurred around the northern edge of the caldera.
In 2008, there were two separate islands, but an eruption in 2014-2015 connected these two islands.
Then, another eruption occurred in late December of 2021, expanding the island by another 72%.
This latest eruption placed a massive new volcanic rock right up against the steep cliff of the caldera.
Thus, the area I have marked on screen became highly structurally unstable and prone to collapse.
A warning sign of events to come occurred on January 14th, when a small collapse generated a 30 centimeter or 12 inch high tsunami.
Then, earlier today, an estimated 0.5 cubic kilometers of rock slid into the ocean, generating a catastrophic tsunami.
This landslide exposed a larger body of stagnant magma at shallow depths to ocean water, causing the water which interacted with it to flash to steam and explode.
Due to the amount of magma present, this generated a sustained eruption plume and an eruption type used to describe the most energetic eruptions, a Plinian eruption.
Based on the evidence available, I estimate that today's eruption would be rated on the volcanic explosivity index as a 4, indicating an eruption similar in size to the 1902 eruption of Pele in Martinique.
Due to the vast quantity of falling ash, the day seemingly turned to night across much of Tonga.
In the upcoming hours to weeks, more smaller tsunamis are quite likely, so residents should stay away from the shoreline.
When this eruption is over, I either expect a large U shaped crater to be present on the island of Hunga Tunga, or for the middle section of the island to be completely gone.
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Well, Joe, fill us in what that was all about.
Fascinating.
Yes.
Well, we're going to be discussing geological and astronomical forcings today, which are completely ignored by both sides of the fake three-sided climate debate.
And I want to back up and discuss a few more of the characters and some of the organizations that are involved in keeping this a controlled, fake debate going on.
First of all, we had discussed Judith Curry and she and after the climate gate thing in November of 2009, she decided that she would defect from the carbon dioxide is the only thing forcing the planet to carbon dioxide, a major thing, but we just don't know how major.
Anyhow, I sent her a copy of my Canada Free Press article, Non-Science Nonsense, and I called her on the phone, and I talked to her, and I had done my research, and I said, well, Judy, you were co-author of a book on thermodynamics.
She goes, oh, I had two guys that wrote a book on thermodynamics, and they wanted me to write an introductory chapter, but I never read the book, and And I don't know anything about thermodynamics.
And I said, well, you've got a PhD.
You're on the faculty at Georgia Tech.
They've got a great engineering school.
What are you doing this summer?
She goes, oh, I'm taking a sabbatical.
I said, great.
Why don't you audit An engineering thermodynamics class all semester long.
You don't have to do the work, course load, or take the exams.
You just audit the class to get an idea what me and the other engineers in the world are talking about.
And she goes, oh, that's a great idea.
So I didn't bother again.
This was in May of 2010.
I didn't bother again until after school started in September.
I called up and asked her, I said, Judy, how did the thermodynamics class go?
She goes, oh, I went to the first class and I didn't understand anything they said, so I didn't go back.
Oh, well, that's interesting.
And as we mentioned before, I had gone to the Heartland What I call Heartland Institute, ICCC 9, what I call the lukewarmest love fest with 600 claimed skeptics, and there weren't a dozen people in the whole room that had taken thermodynamics, and there weren't a dozen people in the whole room that were objective about it.
And one of the other individuals that was in that room was Anthony Watts.
And Anthony Watts operates a website called What's Up With That?
And I used to be a contributor there in the comment section, but I was constantly being snipped.
He would put the little pointers with snip, and then he'd write ignorant, stupid, irrelevant, whatever.
And it would leave my username, which at the time was FauxScienceSlayer, but it would make these derogatory comments about me.
So I will call you to your face, Tony, BlogBullyWatts.
That's what you have for a website, and you claim to be an objective scientist?
Well, one day, after so many comments were coming in, he decided that he was going to put auto-delete on anything that said Slayer, Sky Dragon, Faux Science, Electric Universe.
He had about 10 words, words or groups of words, the phrases that were auto delete.
He said, I won't even see those.
They will be automatically deleted.
Well, I wasn't going to change my username.
So I just went to hell with you.
But before I did that, one day he was making a claim that the earthquake in 1906 in San Francisco was the greatest natural disaster in the history of the United States.
And I went, I knew what the real answer to that was, but somebody wrote in and said, well, actually, the 1901 hurricane that wiped out Galveston caused more death and destruction.
He goes, oh, okay, you're right, the hurricane in 1901.
And I said, well, what about the flood in 1927?
1927. It covered seven states, 27,000 square miles with an average depth of 10 feet. And
it's in the book by John M. Berry, Rising Tide. You ought to read it. And instead of
saying, okay, Mr. Olson, thank you for, you know, improving the comment, he put snip,
idiot, and then about three or four comments down, he goes, well, actually, the worst natural
disaster in the United States was the 1927 flood.
They had record snows across all of the Ohio, Mississippi, which goes up into Minnesota and the Canadian border, and the Missouri, which goes all the way over to freaking Oregon.
That watershed is about two-thirds of the land mass of the United States that drains down into the Mississippi River.
They had record snowfalls that year in 26 and the winter of 27, and then They had a tropical storm just as all this snow melt was flooding down the Mississippi River.
They had a tropical storm move in just about like Harvey did in the Harris County area and deluged the southern part.
They killed over 10,000 white people, but they didn't bother to count the number of black people that were killed.
And so estimates are that at least 20,000 people.
It destroyed the economy.
It wiped out one-third of the agricultural production of the entire United States in the year 1927.
That's a pretty big disaster, Mr. Watts.
Why don't we discuss that?
I met you at ICCC 9, and I challenged you to a debate, and here it is.
15 years later, 10 years later, I still challenge you to abate and I challenge Judith Curry to abate.
So then, I was a former member of ASHRAE, American Society of Heating and Ventilation Refrigeration Engineers.
And I wrote a great article called Airmen of ASHRAE, Enter the Fray, August 7, 2010.
Posted at Canada Free Press.
I won't go through the whole article, but I just want to give you a little bit of the history of this.
The ASHRAE, American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Air Conditioning Engineers, have 50,000 members.
They were founded as the Heating and Ventilation Society in 1894, and the name of air conditioning was added in 1954.
They merged with the Society of Refrigeration Engineers in 1904, and in 1959, they changed
the name to ASHRAE. So I had attended enough ASHRAE meetings to know that these guys were
totally on board with all of this stupid carbon warming and the green energy paradigm, and I'd
been arguing with those people. And so when I wrote this article, I sent it to a dozen of the
leading ASHRAE chapters in the United States.
Every major city chapter and every one of the chapters in Texas I called and talked to the presidents of those chapters, and I explained my article, and they said, yeah, I read it, and everything you said is correct, but you know, we can't do anything other than what national orders us to do.
Well, guess what?
The vice president of ASHRAE was a PhD mechanical engineer at Penn State University, And so I called him up and he goes, Yeah, I read your article.
And I realized that everything that they're saying about global warming is a fraud.
But you know, we get a lot of research grant money, we can't really go against that.
And I went, Oh, really?
Well, surprise, surprise.
They had a conference in Houston in 2018.
It was a three-day long conference.
A thousand engineers were there.
I went and I took my, you know, information that we've displayed before about water vapor and all of the other things about What's involved in the atmosphere and how carbon dioxide can't possibly be a forcing agent?
And every engineer that I talked to agreed with me.
And I talked to 300 engineers, 100 engineers a day.
I'd catch them in groups and I got there at 7 in the morning and went till 9 at night.
So anyhow, a little while later, the Penn State professor shows up to do a program at the local Houston chapter, and I didn't, I knew they wouldn't allow me to interrupt him or question him afterwards, but, you know, during the program, then when they do a comments section, but after the program, I went up and I said, I sent you my article in 2010, and you agreed with me, and I went to the They're bought and sold, Joe, for political purposes.
Science be damned.
They don't care about the truth.
They care about money.
He goes, well, ASHRAE gets an enormous number of grants from the Department of Energy.
So basically we do what they tell us to do.
So whether they're bought and sold, Joe, for political purposes, science be damned, they
don't care about the truth.
They care about money.
This is just disgraceful.
Well let's go into a little bit more reason.
Let me say, Joe, there's a parallel here with the destruction of the Twin Towers.
They cannot possibly have collapsed.
Every structural, mechanical, civil engineer in the nation knows they did not collapse, and yet they did not speak out.
We got hundreds of thousands, millions of repetitions of the claim that the buildings had collapsed, which was physically impossible, and none of them spoke out.
This is just disgusting beyond belief.
And I'm a trained structural engineer, so you can go to BitChute, put in Joe Olson in the search box, O-L-S-O-N, and it'll bring up the over 100 videos that Fetzer and I have done, including the one on 9-1-1, so we don't need to do any repetition on that.
But let me give you a little bit further background on why I know for an absolute fact what's happening in the atmosphere is not what they're telling us.
Put up the psychometric chart.
Okay.
Bye.
This is... This is a video now, Joe.
You want me to play this or you want me to go to... Which one is this?
Milankovitch?
Milankovitch cycle.
No, no, no, no, no.
I need the psychometric chart.
This is not the vapor compressor.
No, but we'll put that one up next.
I got the Hellas Planita.
I think I don't have the psychometric chart.
Okay, well let me just describe what's going on, and I'll put a link to it in the program notes.
Bottom line is, this is the Carrier Design Manual, which I was given as a junior engineer by the Carrier Corporation in 1968.
It's the eighth printing edition of it.
This gives you all of the factors that are involved in doing design work for air conditioning in a building, including transmission by radiant energy and by conductive energy by glass and wall surfaces.
And so we calculate that, and then also you have the solar azimuth angle, which we're going to get into the astronomical in just a second, but just hold that thought.
And all of the other factors, altitude, everything that affects, and then the seasonal rotation, which is again part of the Malkovich cycle.
So, there is in here what's called a nomograph, and that's what I had sent Jim, and we may just end up having to do it again on a future presentation to go into a little bit more detail, but this is how you calculate the enthalpy of the air, and what you do is with This nomograph, since what we're talking about are fourth-degree polynomials that are difficult to work,
They go ahead and graph these fourth degree polynomials.
You can input what your entering design conditions are in the way of water vapor in the air, and that's measured in pounds, grains of moisture per pounds of air, and that makes a real easy conversion into BTUs, which is British Thermal Units, which is one measure of energy, and BTUs is equivalent to one BTU is equivalent to 1.055 Kilojoules per kilogram or it's equal to 252 calories or it's equal to 0.93 watts and so bottom line is you have these multiple different methods of measuring just like you have two with Fahrenheit and centigrade but you have these multiple methods of measuring the same thing which is energy flux and so that's what engineers calculate.
We calculate the sensible and latent heat.
And the factors that involve latent heat is the moisture that's in the air.
And inside a building, you have multiple moisture sources.
You have boiling kettles if you're making coffee, anything that involves cooking
then is gonna be producing hydrocarbons, because I mean, water vapor,
because when you burn hydrocarbons, you get CO2 and water vapor.
So anything that's got open combustion is gonna be producing water vapor inside the space.
Humans produce sensible heat of 250 BTUs per hour at rest, but then a latent of 250 BTUs hour,
which is the transpiration when you breathe on your glasses
or you breathe on a mirror that...
That water vapor is coming out of your lungs.
You're expiring that water vapor constantly, but if you're highly active, that can be four or five times both of the sensible and the latent heat.
So when you're doing air conditioning loads inside a building, you have to know what all of the various loads are The other sensible loads would be like your electrical loads for heat radiated from water heaters and also from lighting and then the heat of the motor of the air conditioning and so what you do is they use a thermal cycle and phase change to remove heat from the buildings.
Let's put up that refrigeration cycle and I'll go through that real briefly.
Okay.
There it is.
Okay.
Yes, on the left-hand side, you have the evaporator.
This is the part of the air conditioning system that's inside your house, and it picks up heat inside the house and transfers that heat to liquid Freon, which boils the Freon inside your evaporator.
The hot gas leaves the coil with the heat from your space, and then it goes out to the compressor, where the compressor converts it into a high-temperature, high-pressure liquid.
It takes it down to the condensing unit, where the condensing unit's outside you.
Blow air through the condensing unit that's cooler than the hot gas that's in the compressor side and that causes it to condense and that releases the energy that you've taken from inside the house less the horsepower that's required for the compressor.
So bottom line is with a mechanical compressor you're taking heat By boiling it out of the inside of the house, taking it outside as steam, and letting the steam condense outside at a lower outside ambient temperature back into liquid, and then it's coming back.
And basically, that's the same refrigeration cycle that's happening with the ice caps, with the oceans, and with the water vapor that's in clouds.
They're transferring heat from a lower altitude to a higher altitude and releasing it as convective energy.
And everything that's convective will excite gas molecules that will radiate the heat away from the earth.
So the earth is cooled by two mechanisms.
One is radiant heat, which is electromagnetic radiation moving at the speed of light.
And that comes from any body with a temperature.
You at 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit emit in the 10 micron range.
So you can't take a mirror and reflect your own energy back on yourself and make yourself warmer.
The earth can't radiate energy out to any three atom molecule in the atmosphere capture that heat and force it back down.
It's absolutely absurd.
Now, what the people try to do is they try to say that the sun is constant, and whatever fission there is in the earth is constant, and it's minuscule anyway.
And well, let's just talk about that.
First of all, the amount of energy that hits the earth's surface from the sun is a function of the square of the distance, and because of our elliptical orbit, we vary between 91 million miles and 93 million miles over the course of a year.
That three percent difference is a function of the square, so that makes a nine percent difference in the amount of radiant energy that hits the surface of the earth.
Okay, so this is summer versus winter.
Summer versus winter, but that's augmented by the Astronomical facts of the Milankovitch cycle.
So let's just play that gif of the Milankovitch cycle, and you can read the captions, and we'll discuss it afterwards.
Okay.
Malenkovich cycle.
Milankovitch showed that the characteristics of Earth's orbit and axis orientation can change with time, affecting climate.
And there over a period of approximately 100,000 years the shape of
Earth's orbit gradually changes from circular to elliptical. In addition, you've got
eccentricity as far as the tilt of the orbit and so what we currently experience right now is that you
have apogee and perigee.
We're at the furthest distance from the sun when our axis, the northern hemisphere axis, is tilted towards the sun.
So there again, you get 10% less energy because we're further away.
50,000 years from now, we will be facing the Sun with the Northern Hemisphere at 91 million miles instead of 93 million, and we'll be getting an enormous more energy into the surface of the Earth.
And like we mentioned before, the Northern Hemisphere, everything north of the equator, has 68% of the Earth's landmass.
Hemisphere has 68% of the world's ocean mass, and those two react quite differently to input from sunlight.
You'll get a lot more clouds when you're in the situation where the southern hemisphere is closest, which is where we are right now.
So, we're getting a lot more clouds and a lot more water migration than we will be getting 50,000 years from now.
This portion of astronomy is correct and is highly predictive.
And we're going to get into a few more things that astronomy affects climate with, too.
But go ahead and play that, Jim.
Believe it or not, there's still people out there who insist that Earth is flat, which I do not believe is even physically possible, given the laws of gravitational attraction.
I don't think you could have, but it's just absurd.
I mean, they don't seem to understand that The hours of the day are determined by the rotation of the Earth at the days of the month, by the Moon circling around the Earth, and then the year by Earth orbiting the Sun.
I mean, the idea that's Earth on a tilt and that the orbit could change over time is so far beyond them.
I mean, this is Surprising to me that there are people who I otherwise think are intelligent and serious believing something that's complete hokum.
Well, we'll get into Big Bang in a future seminar debate on this stuff, but that's an equally big joke.
It's impossible to believe that out of the whole universe where everything is spherical due to the actual forces of gravity pulling everything in where that is the most compact method of containing mass within a space is to have it spherical.
And so here you have a situation where the only surface in the whole universe that we identify as flat is absolutely ridiculous.
But equally ridiculous is that we're looking out 13 billion light years in absolutely every direction and the universe is expanding at a hundred thousand miles per second in every direction.
So here we are back at the same stupid heliocentric argument that we had in the The end of the last dark ages and that is the earth was the center of the universe and everything rotated around it the flat earth crowd and then now we have the earth is the center of the galaxy where the whole entire galaxy is expanding at astronomical rates with no visible form of energy capable of doing that where 90% of the mass is quote dark matter that you can't see in order to make their hypothesis work out it's absolutely absurd but we're going to back up and do some
I want to pursue that just a step further or so.
Yes.
What's going on there?
We'll discuss this.
I've got 10 articles at Canada Free Press.
Any students that want to jump ahead on your lesson plan, go to Big Bang Rebubble at Canada Free Press and just read all of the articles that follow that.
And that was it. I think I put that in.
Well, I mean, what motivates?
I mean, this is fascinating.
This is the equivalent of the Flat Earthers denying all, but you're suggesting that Big Bang requires this massive positing of dark matter that otherwise would render inexplicable what they're claiming, and I'm just...
I'm just astonished as to how it could be that effortless to debunk the idea that all matter and energy were concentrated in this very tiny compact and then exploded and have been expanding outward ever since at high speed.
You're telling me the arguments against that are simply overwhelming.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, Big Bang Rebuttal was posted at Canada Free Press on April 22nd, 2010.
And after I posted it, I thought, well, I misstated a few things.
And there's a few things that I've discovered since I did a little more research.
So on April 25th, I wrote Cosmology's Peptic Ulcer.
Which goes into the hypothesis about having a rotational instead of an expanding universe, and that involves Doppler shift of light and the red shift.
And after that, I wrote an article called the Mysterious Doctor.
One of my readers contacted me and said, Olson, You're not the first person to mention this.
You need to look up the Einstein-Godel model, and actually I'd followed this with another one.
Mysterious Dr. X says the universe is not expanding, and that's on what Hubble actually said about Doppler shift in an interview with Time magazine, December
14, 1936. The interview is called shift on shift. And as soon as I published that at Canada Free
Press, Time magazine put it behind a paywall so nobody could see it. But I've got copies of
that and I've quoted from it.
You're kidding me, Joe!
Oh, wait, wait, Jim, wait till we discuss Big Bang.
And so then, after I did the Mysterious Dr. X article, one of my readers in Germany contacted me at Canada Free Press and said, Olsen, you're not the first person to mention this.
Look up Einstein-Godel.
And so I looked up Einstein-Godel, and sure enough, they said, in 1950, they said that if you have a rotational universe, not only does it solve all of the requirements for the field equations for relativity, but it also means that time
travel is axiomatic. So you want to know what the motive could possibly be for not letting us
know that the universe is rotating instead of expanding. It could be that the powers that be
don't want us to know that we are actually living in a universe where time travel is actually
axiomatic. And I think we can prove that in a future discussion. But get back to...
Yes, yes.
You're going to have to elaborate.
Okay, so instead of having, as it were, a steady universe that's expanding, we got a universe that's constant but rotating.
That's very significant.
But how does it make time travel, you say, axiomatic, meaning an obvious truth?
You don't mean or do you mean going backward in time, for example?
Yes, you're going to be able to go backwards in time and you can verify anything that happened in the history of the entire universe.
It's absolutely, absolutely crazy.
It doesn't mean you could change history.
No, no, no.
You can observe it.
You could review it.
All right, so we'll know who committed all of the crimes.
It's like a way back machine for the universe.
Correct, correct, correct.
But imagine the power if you knew exactly what happened before and you knew exactly what you needed to lie about so you could direct the future.
But that's what we'll get into.
But just go back and look at, for example, you know, the position of the shooters.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Wait till we do our time travel thing.
You're gonna love it.
Okay, but let's jump back into, yeah, let's jump back into Wow!
I love this!
Astronomical foresting.
Okay, so let's put in Helasius Palena.
It's H-E-L-L-A-S-P-L-A-N-I-T-I-A.
This is a crater that's on Mars.
You want me to pull it up?
Yeah, go ahead and pull it up.
I just want to give you an idea of some of the other astronomical forestings.
Okay, you want me to read it or you want to read it?
Uh, just read the opening paragraph and then I'll, I'll, we'll extemporaneous from there.
Hellas Planina is a vast meteorite impact basin located at Pacific in the Mars Southern Hemisphere.
Hellas Patina is a Hellas Quadrangle in the Noches Quadrangle.
In those quadrangles, its name is a classic feature name referring to the country of Greece.
The name was officially approved in 1973, also known as a Hellas Impact Basin.
This landmark has a very obvious impact crater ring, 2,300 kilometers, 1,400 miles in diameter,
one of the largest known impact craters in the solar system.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah, okay.
It's 2,300 miles wide, but it's also uniformly curved, and it's nine kilometers deep.
So, if you just do the basic geometry, you got an arc that has a flat curve, I mean, a flat chord across the top of it that's 2,300 miles, and then you've got two radius lines.
2,300 kilometers.
2,300 kilometers, and then you have the radiuses that go down to a particular point to allow for that chord and that amount of arc.
So you've got nine kilometers of arc from where this impact crater hit, and then you project that down.
You end up with a body impacting Mars that's 22% the size of the sun.
Now, when I first started researching this... 22% the size of a Sanzo?
Correct.
So what happens... How could it be that immense?
Well, we're talking Planet X. We're talking a dwarf star that was the Sun's twin four billion years ago that the Sun actually been been able to rob enough material from that it turned into a dwarf and got forced into a highly elliptical orbit.
And one of those orbits hit the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.
It shattered the planet that was there.
And then when this impact hit Mars, it most likely absorbed all of the surface water and This was a piece of debris from the impact with the earlier planet that shattered into pieces and a part of it hit Mars.
Yes, there's highly correlated and peer-reviewed information that every solar system that exists in the Milky Way galaxy began as a twin star system.
So what happens is you have twin stars and they're sitting there spinning around each other and They keep exchanging power and one of them keeps getting more and more and more power until finally it just spins the other one out as an elliptical belt of material that can congeal into forming planets and then the core of that, which would be the iron-centered core just like our sun has, which is another theory that's been highly controversial but very provable, is spun off in a highly elliptical orbit and so it stays just like a comet and it comes around
You know, we don't know exactly what the period is.
The problem with a dwarf star is that they have a temperature that's almost equal to the cosmic background radiation, so you can't pick them up with an infrared telescope.
And the other thing is they're pretty small, so you can't see them transit in front of other stars to verify where they are, which is the only way you could see an object that you can't pick up with infrared.
So, bottom line is, we're still talking about astrological forcings on our little planet that far exceed anything that humans are doing with CO2, and that's the take-home for this whole discussion today, is we're also going to discuss some of the geologic factors.
So, we've got that crater.
Now, we'll fast forward to the Triassic-Jurassic extinction event.
This is when the Chigoba crater occurred in Yucatan.
And this was a major extinction event.
You have a 3.1 mile diameter meteor that hit the Yucatan Peninsula 65 million years ago, and when it did, it caused a crater that's 150 kilometers across.
So you had a 10 mile, 10 kilometer meteorite.
Why don't we pause and I find that?
Okay.
Here's some images, Joe, I was able to pull up.
Go for it.
Okay, I can't see that, so describe what it says.
Okay, for Yucatan Peninsula Meteor Impact, and you see big rings, big rings, massive, it shows a whole lot of features thereof.
It raises questions about dinosaur extinction, asteroid crater hit Earth, asteroid hit Ma.
Go for it.
Okay, yeah, so this is just one other astronomical factor that's an absolutely irrefutable climate forcing factor, and so we had that one when the dinosaurs became extinct, but we also had another one that happened during the start of the Holocene.
The Holocene is the Malkovich cycle that we discussed earlier, changed from 100,000 year glacial periods to 10,000 interglacial warming periods, Joe, just to make sure.
With this impact, the Yucatan Peninsula, it created so much debris and essentially blocked Sunlight from heating earth as normally and it led to the extinction of the dinosaurs.
Is that correct or incorrect?
Yes, yes, that's correct.
And the same thing happened in Krakatoa when it blew up in the 1890s.
It caused the Galveston Bay to freeze over across the top of Galveston Bay.
They had complete crop failures for several years in a row because of the reflective sulfur dioxide molecules and ash that was in the atmosphere.
So there's irrefutable evidence of forcing from geologic forces, and all of those are based on fission.
So we'll get to that in just a second, but getting back to the summing through my notes, the end of the Well, the end of the Pleistocene was when the Holocene started 20,000 years ago, and that's based on the Milankovitch Cycle, which we previously discussed.
There was a meteor impact that they think hit the ice sheet in Canada, which at the time was as much as three miles thick, and ice was all the way down from like Portland all the way across to New York.
All of Great Lakes was under a mile high ice pack.
And when this meteorite, probably smaller than the one that hit Mexico, but when it hit, shattered the ice and that it also caused warming and it
left a layer of nanodiamonds particularly across North America and that it
corresponds exactly with another extinction event and that was the one
of the mastodons, the mammoths, the saber-toothed tigers, the dire wolves,
all of the large mammals that occupied the North American hemisphere at the time
that that impact happened and it caused the Younger Dreyfus cooling period
which lasted for about a thousand years. So you know you have an
astronomical impact that you can't you can't predict when it's going to happen and you
can't predict exactly what's going to happen afterwards but in retrospect you can
say this is what most likely caused this climate change and it wasn't anything to
do with CO2 because they had mastodons that they found in the Siberian ice that
have Frozen standing up and had undigested dandelions, which are semi-tropical vegetation, undigested in their stomach, which means that the bacteria in their stomach didn't even have time to
Decompose the material in the stomach before the thing was frozen and the way they and they also have uh impacts in their spines and their femurs of all four legs that indicate that they were hit with bowling ball size hail that filled up up to their uh belly at least and flash froze them in place and this happened 10-12,000 years ago.
Well what in the hell could blow uh ice chunks into the air that were There were bowling ball sides that fell down on Russia, you know?
Absolutely stunning.
The evidence is beyond debate, because this is the only possible explanation you have.
So, there again, you have an astronomical forcing factor, which you've already covered the Milenkovich cycle on those, and we've discussed the The impacts from meteors on Mars, and we've also discussed the ones on these two particular events, the extinction events in Northern Hemisphere at the Younger Dreyfus, and then also the dinosaurs.
But now we're going to switch back to geologic forcing, and for that I want to go to the Gabon.
OKLO, natural reactor, two billion years ago.
Do I have it?
I think I sent it to you, but if not, I can discuss it without that.
Joe, I don't.
Oh, let me, well, let me look and see.
Let me see if we got it here.
It was one of the last ones that I sent to you to this morning on my.
I've got the, all the hell of stuff, but I don't believe.
Okay.
All right.
Well, bottom line is there was a geologist that was doing some uranium exploration in Gabon in 1972, a French geologist, and he discovered some isotopes of uranium in a mine, in a cave system over there, that could only happen from fission.
And so everybody was going, well, there's no way you must have misread that.
Well, I verified it completely and it's documented.
Just Google search OKLO natural reactor and what happened... OKLO.
OKLO, natural reactor.
You want me to see if I can get it?
No, no, no.
We'll just let the students find it on their own.
We can discuss it further in a further discussion.
Bottom line is, the planet has, due to the parts per million, it has 700,000 cubic miles.
If you multiply the 259 billion cubic miles by the two or three parts per million of uranium, Then you convert that to volume.
You have 700,000 cubic miles of uranium and 1.2 million cubic miles of thorium.
Uranium has a half-life of about four billion years, so that means that the thorium that we have on the planet now is the half-life of the uranium we had when the planet originally started.
So, We didn't discuss the other impact, and that is the impact, the geologic impact of having a volcanic explosion, and so we're going to get to that in just a second, because what we're dealing with here is we have people that like to linearize everything, and they just project back, and that's why I have a real problem with everything that has to do with proxy data.
So, now we've got this natural reactor which proves that the Earth can, number one, refine uranium and then also place it in a situation where it can have natural slow rate fusion just like a light water reactor, but it most likely can also combine it in quantities big enough to where it reaches critical mass and you have a nuclear explosion.
So, the next thing is we'll pull up Yellowstone, Lava Creek eruption, There have been three well-documented cases of eruptions of the caldera in Yellowstone.
One of them was 2.1 million years ago, one of them was 1.3 million years ago, and then the latest one was 640,000 years ago.
On the last one, it blew an entire granite rock formation off of the surface of the earth 240 000 cubic miles either entered space as new asteroids or rained down around the planet as rocks that didn't get escape philosophy but you take 240 million cubic miles of
of material and you blow that out into space, it's going to take a little bit of atmosphere
out into space with it. And so we've had a constantly eroding atmosphere and I really
disagree with people saying, well, you know, you can prove all this carbon dioxide in the past
climate. Well, let's see exactly what situation was in the past climate. 65 million years ago,
paradoxical quasi-colitis northropi, and I'll put the exact spelling of that in. Now, Joe,
I do have those earlier graphs here.
You want me to pull up one of those?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is completely independent of that.
This is previous air density, okay?
Okay.
And so this is from Slaying the Sky Dragon, my chapter, page 253.
The paradoctyl had an 11-meter, 36-foot wingspan.
Today's largest flying bird is the Peruvian condor, which has a wingspan of 5 meters, which is 16 feet.
So he had double the wingspan 65 million years ago.
In addition, compare the Meganeura, M-E-G-A-N-E-U-R-A, Dragonfly with a half meter 22 inch wingspan and today's largest Atlas moth which is a quarter meter which is 11 inch wingspan.
So bottom line is 65 million years ago you had flying creatures insects and reptiles on the planet that had wingspans twice of anything that can fly today.
Well, back in about 1980, there was a great article in Popular Science by some aeronautical engineers at San Diego University, and they did analysis of it, and they said, well, you've got four things that affect powered flight.
One of them is thrust.
One of them is drag, one of them is lift, and the other one is gravity.
Okay, well if you consider that gravity probably hasn't changed much in 65 million years, we'll just write that off as a constant.
So then you end up with thrust.
Well, is it possible that 65 million years ago that the flying insects and the flying reptiles had Four times as much muscle power as you have today?
That's not very likely.
So then you end up with a lift, and lift is a function of the density of the air, and because wingspan is a function of area, it's the square.
And these aeronautical engineers Did the calculations with the wingspan, with the projected weight using current animals' muscles and current animals' skeletal structure, and they came up with the fact that at the Jurassic period, the atmosphere was four times as dense as it is now.
And if you think about that, that solves a whole bunch of your problems as far as how cold-blooded animals could exist, because if you had four times as much air, you'd have a modulation of the temperature cycle, so it would get less cool at night, and it would not be as hot during the day, and you'd be able to grow ferns that were 30 feet tall, and you could have, you know, reptiles walking around that are the size of school buses.
So, you want to solve multiple paradoxes in science?
There you go!
And then you want to linearize that and say that we're dealing with the exact same climate that we were dealing with back then?
Absolutely preposterous!
So, and bottom line is, if you have a meteor impact that hits the planet Earth, it's going to put a big enough wave in the atmosphere that it's going to force air outside at escape velocity so that it's lost from the planet forever.
And it doesn't matter whether it's an eruption from a super volcano blowing 240 cubic million,
I mean, 240 cubic miles of matter into space that sucks the atmosphere beyond its escape velocity,
or if it's an impact from a meteor that splashes it out.
Bottom line is we've been constantly eroding our atmosphere for 4 billion years.
And to project back what we think it was, you have to put those actual facts into your equations
for anything that you're doing in the way of proxy data.
So, you know, what I'm trying to do is provide enough information
that we can have a realistic scientific debate about all the parameters that affect the climate
on our planet and realize that whatever humans do in our tiny little parts per million fluctuation
in carbon dioxide is absolutely meaningless compared with the astronomical and geological forces.
And the fact that we have a system of.
Government funding for science that has allowed complete perversion across the board of all science is disgraceful and it must end when we have the new reset and we start resetting science to the traditional scientific method and we have open public debate about everything that needs to be discussed.
Joe, let me say, I spent 35 years offering courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning.
I've published extensively on scientific reasoning, scientific laws, scientific explanation.
I mean, truly, this is my area of expertise.
But I approach it from the theoretical in principle.
You are giving us a demonstration of applied scientific reasoning comparable to none I've ever seen before.
You show what it means to reason about the world scientifically You are a veritable paragon of science, my friend, and I can't tell you how much I admire what you're doing, how fascinating you make science become, and it really turns out to be the case that truth is stranger than fiction.
It's utterly fascinating, Joe, what you've been presenting here, and it ties together so many diverse aspects.
I just got to tell you, my friend, I am in awe.
Thank you for the forum, James, and we'll continue with some information about time travel.
That'll be very interesting, and all the hoax about the Big Bang.
That'll be a fun, fun presentation we'll do in the near future.
Look forward to it.
Jim Fetzer, your host on this Real Deal special, our climate change Episode number three with Joelson, where he's doing a masterful job.
I'm sure you're looking forward as much as I to our next round.
Thanks for joining us.
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