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Dec. 27, 2021 - Jim Fetzer

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Dreamer with Bill Grant (26 December 2021)

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	I'm not an owner.
	I'm the co-founder with Mike Palachuk.
	Jim, I wanted to ask you before as we start, I want everyone to check out your show.
	First of all, do you own Moonrock Books, Jim?
	No, I'm not an owner.
	I'm the co-founder with Mike Palachuk.
	Dave Gehry is in fact the owner of Moonrock Books.
	Oh, yeah.
	But that is active right now.
	I'm assuming that people can just click right on that if they get into our chat, into our
	homepage, correct?
	you Boon Rock Books has a distinction that of the 12 volumes we have published there, Amazon.com has banned six, six of them.
	Not only about Sandy Hook, which occurred less than a month after it went on sale on 22 October 2015 and then sold nearly 500 copies when it was banned on 19 November, at which point I released it for free as a PDF, where a friend who follows these matters suggested to me it's been downloaded over 10 million times.
	So then a lawsuit was brought against me to try to find a basis for stemming the leak, the flood of information they thought they got rid of when the Amazon banned the book, but also on the Boston Marathon bombing, on Orlando and Dallas, on Charlottesville, on Parkland, even on the moon landing bill, though that That, I believe, is not because of the moon landing, but because there is a section there of brilliant essays disputing the official narrative of World War II.
	Something about six million in gas chambers in Zyklon B, which actually was used as a disinfectant to kill body lice which were spreading typhus and dysentery in the camps.
	To maintain the inmate's health because you can't get work out of a corpse bill.
	We have been played so many ways and in Moonrock Books, by way of Moonrock Books, I'm doing my best to expose the false history to which we have been unmercifully subjected.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And it's actually because of you and people like Giuseppe and And Dave and, you know, Scorpio and so on.
	See, I even had some trouble trying to figure out exactly.
	I was one of the first many decades ago to try to see Hitler for being basically at least not as bad as he was portrayed to be.
	That alone is a little bit of a long story I'm not going to go into.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, we were told, I was told, you know, the Zyklon B issue, but that they were faking it so it was a real genocide.
	Like, they assumed it was Zyklon B when it really was something else trying to... Well... But, no, but because of you, Jim, now I do not believe that story.
	Now I believe pretty much how you have been putting it.
	So, You've helped me open my eyes and let things sink in, so thank you for that.
	Well, Bill, I'm delighted to hear that.
	Yeah, the International Committee of the Red Cross was keeping copious documents and records about all the deaths in all the camps.
	They were recording the age, the sex, the ethnicity, the religion, and the cause of death of all the inmates.
	And in 1993, they recalibrated the total number.
	296,081 from all causes of death, none of which included being put to death in a gas chamber using Zycon B. Right.
	Right.
	And yeah, we see we need you.
	We really need you.
	And I'm so glad you're feeling much better.
	Basically, how long did that take you?
	You go and do your little COVID trial there.
	How long was that?
	It was a couple of weeks, Bill, and at one point I was so weak I couldn't drag myself out of bed.
	Now a colleague sent me ivermectin and I do believe that was a turning point.
	I also had this antibody treatment that the government is also suppressing.
	Well, I think the malevolence, the viciousness, the malice involved here is well demonstrated by the suppression of HEQ, hydroxychloroquine, and ivermectin by the government, because those are cheap, effective treatments.
	They're virtually 100% efficacious, and they cost pennies compared to the vast sums.
	The pharmacy is are making on these shots, which are very dangerous for you.
	The M. R. N. A. They actually do change your M. R. N. A. They are.
	They've been described by Sherry Tenpenny, for example, is perfectly designed killing machines.
	By all means, if you possibly can't avoid the wax is going to do you tremendous damage.
	It's going to weaken your antibodies and it's going to make you highly vulnerable to any number of threats that in the past you would have simply shrugged off because you had vigorous antibodies.
	In fact, the Red Cross will not take blood plasma from those who have been vaccinated because of the absence of antibodies, Bill.
	That speaks volumes.
	Right, right.
	Absolutely.
	And as you know, we would have suggested no one actually take blood from any blood bank in the future now anyway.
	And then they, we probably said that first and then they had to, maybe it pushed up the timeline for them to say that.
	But you know, were you talking about, did you, were you giving the monoclonal antibody treatment by chance?
	Is that what that was?
	I did have.
	I went to a nearby hospital.
	It's actually excellent.
	I think the fact that it's a small hospital was a good thing, but there's this IV antibody treatment.
	I'm not talking about this remensivir, which is deadly or anything of that nature, but rather a bona fide antibody treatment.
	You can read it recommended by many of the better experts like Joe Mercola, for example.
	Let me add, by the way, that if you want the big picture on this, Dr. David Martin has just given a completely brilliant overview, which I've archived on my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer.
	Go to BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer, and scroll down.
	I think right now it's like the third video there.
	If you want to have your Yeah, that sounds good.
	clarified, cleansed of misinformation. This guy does the most brilliant job of laying
	it out of anyone I've seen yet. Yeah, that sounds good. In fact, I should have made sure
	we promoted any and all of your sites, to be honest, right off the bat.
	Anywhere else you want anyone to... Well, of course, the blog, Bill, the blog jamesfetzer.org, the blog, where you'll find, for example, there are at least a dozen articles about face masks and how they're harmful.
	In fact, you know, they can't even filter the virus because it's so tiny.
	It's roughly like trying to filter out a ping pong ball using a hula hoop.
	I mean, it's that absurd.
	I have studies included there from the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, which is the nation's leading scientific medical association.
	Explaining how face masks do no good and actually do harm.
	As many of the other studies confirm, you're recycling oxygen depleted air.
	That means you're killing off brain cells.
	And unlike skin cells, brain cells do not regenerate.
	So that's permanent damage to your brain.
	Most of us don't believe we have enough brain cells to spare that we're willing to go that route.
	It also puts additional stress on your cardiovascular system.
	And of course, you know, I mean, these are just a face mask.
	It turns out that Tony Fauci, to my reference, Tony the Rat, undertook a study of the Spanish flu with colleagues, and they discovered that the overwhelming majority of deaths were not from the flu, but from bacterial pneumonia infections, which are promoted by wearing face masks.
	So I'm convinced, Bill, that face masks are killing us slowly.
	They're also a sign of subjugation, you know, of willingness to follow orders, even if they're completely absurd.
	So I think those who are behind all of this, which I believe is the Rothschild banking empire seeking to take control of the entirety of planet Earth, find it very amusing that because they fabricated, they worked up a phony story about There being a pandemic where those who look into the actual evidence discover there's been no increase in deaths in any age group from previous years because of a pandemic when there ought to have been spikes, but that since the introduction of the COVID vaccines, there's been a stunning increase in the number of deaths.
	And it occurs not just from the Pfizer, but from the Moderna, from the AstraZeneca.
	I mean, it's absolutely staggering.
	Where?
	Just to offer an illustration.
	The World Health Organization has an adverse effect database.
	it has. At the time I took this slide, 2,181,543 adverse effects in 2021, a whole huge range
	of medical maladies, and of course, including a large number of deaths, but where compared
	to the prior year, there were only 2,254 in 2020. Before that in 2019, 82, 2018, 29, 2072, 2061,
	2014, 1. In other words, we've had a thousand-fold increase in adverse effects because of
	these vaccines.
	Everyone in the medical community has to know this is just so staggering.
	And it's a clear violation of the Nuremberg principles, according to which you're not allowed to use an experimental procedure.
	If the risk outweighs the benefit, or if it brings about damage or harm to the subjects, it's an indication of how massively the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, even in my opinion the WHO, are under control that they're moving forward with these experimental medicines, experimental procedures, which do not properly qualify as medicines, in spite of the fact that they're bringing about so much death and devastation will, In any other situation, they would have been taken off the market long ago.
	You know, here's a question for you.
	It may sound I don't know what I mean.
	You know, I mean, nothing's a coincidence and especially not coming from London and so on.
	And they have Doctor Who, the show, and that's been around since at least, I don't know, 60s.
	I think it came.
	I mean, Is it official?
	Is it kind of well-known or known at all if that was a way to promote the World Health Organization concept back then or earlier?
	I mean, it kind of sounds like a stupid question.
	I'm just not clear.
	What question exactly are you asking, Bill?
	Well, like we have the show, Doctor Who, which comes from London, England.
	And I'm just wondering if that's ever been like a known propaganda or, you know, prompt for the development of the World Health Organization, you know.
	That's very interesting.
	No, I'm not aware of the program, but you could very well be right.
	I mean, The World Health Organization actually, interestingly, has taken a conservative attitude toward the booster shot, suggesting they're not really necessary.
	The vaccination of children is a travesty.
	These children are virtually invulnerable.
	And it turns out that fully vaccinated people are 65% more likely to be hospitalized,
	1,540% more likely to die from corona than people who are unvaccinated,
	according to the latest data from Public Health England.
	And that's a reliable source, more so than the CDC, which tends to play games with the statistics.
	But bear in mind, the CDC statistics itself only represent 1% of the adverse effects.
	So if you have any number from the CDC, say it shows, you know, 15,000 deaths from COVID, You need to add not just one but two zeros, so 15,000 isn't just 150,000, it's actually 1,500,000 deaths, which they're only reporting as 15,000, because they're only reporting 1% of what the data reflects.
	It's very difficult to use this system by design.
	Right, and there's so many other reporting systems, most people only know about one or two, and then we have the problem you're talking about, And this is just the beginning.
	This is just the immediate short-term effects.
	And then who knows what it will, the long-term effects are on any of the real, any of the so-called vaccines that have substance in them and not a placebo, just to kind of, you know, make it not go too bad, too fast, you know, to have a control circumstance.
	But Jim, have you been taking your Your zinc, vitamin C. I know you believe in zinc.
	I'm pretty sure you believe in zinc, but I just noticed I just bought two, actually two, vitamin C, zinc-added orange juice for the first time.
	I don't know how long they've been selling it, but I figured... The answer is all of the above.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I've in the past taken both Ivermectin and HCQ, and in fact it's possible to obtain Ivermectin, though they're trying to clamp down on it.
	They're even using now customs to enforce, to search packages being imported from abroad with Ivermectin, because the whole effort to decimate the U.S.
	population continues unabated for deagle.com.
	Which is a website with close ties to the military-industrial complex has estimated that between 2020 and 2025, the U.S.
	population will drop from 330 million in 2020 to, Bill, get this, 65 million in 2025.
	in 2022, Bill, get this, 65 million in 2025.
	That's a diminution of 265 million Americans in five years.
	That's going to include a lot of your friends and neighbors and relatives sad to say.
	So I just everyone needs to be aware that this threat is humongous.
	Yeah, and that's a site, most likely some type of not necessary CIA, but basically a control elite site for the more advanced normies and for the investors that have high level investment power that are just under or beginning the
	elite stage and they have to have that because they work out in the open so that they
	have something with power, something with strength to get them all on board with the
	programs, to get them to invest in obviously not hydroxychloroquine but whatever they're
	touting like the remdesivir as you stated and Fauci, rat Fauci, I like how you put that by the
	way and he does look like a rat but of course we know he's botched up, the rumors we
	hear that are more than rumors.
	It wasn't just, remdesivir crosses from today back into the AIDS epidemic and even beyond
	that of course he was involved in a bunch of cancer.
	Bye.
	Uh, you know, he, what did, what was he, what was he promoting for?
	Was it AZT, Jim?
	Do you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	AIDS and HIV.
	But it appears he's been playing one scam after another.
	And this guy is, uh, this reputable person.
	He's going to go down in history, Bill, as the greatest mass murderer of them all.
	Responsible for, in my judgment, hundreds of millions, even billions of deaths before this is all said and done.
	It's tragic.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	What's been on your mind lately, though, other than, um, I got you down this path, um, you know, making sure you're feeling great ever since.
	I'm glad the, um, I'm glad the horse taste worked for you.
	Cause, uh, Now I can take the horse paste.
	I do have the horse paste, but I also have, you know, a stock of conventional pills for ivermectin.
	And, you know, I'm just very grateful that at a critical stage, this dear colleague sent me ivermectin.
	I do believe it made a difference.
	Let me tell you how absurd the situation is.
	Jim Stone has now revealed where they got the terminology for the various Delta variants.
	It turns out there's a series of islands down in the Antarctica near Rothschild Island that have these names.
	You've got Delta Island for the Delta variant, Lambda Island for the Lambda variant, Omega Island for the Omega variant.
	Etta Island for the Etta variant, Omicron Island for the Omicron variant, and the Rothschild Peninsula, all in the same region of the Antarctic.
	I mean, it's just stunning, Bill.
	They do believe they have the obligation to tell us what they're going to do, as with the Georgia Guidestones, suggesting the world population should be reduced of 500 million.
	Believing that if they tell us what they are doing and then we do nothing in response, we are responsible for the outcome.
	Absolutely.
	And you know who was the first person to mention those islands?
	Tell me.
	It was me.
	Oh Bill, is that right?
	I love it.
	Well, I didn't say it recently.
	I kind of did.
	It wasn't that recently, but I've been saying it over the years.
	I'm not sure how many of the names of the islands around Rothschild Island I stated.
	I meant to say Delta and Omicron and Deception for sure.
	I wrote it down.
	I have it in notebooks from over like three years ago.
	I love it!
	Yeah, I know.
	I told everybody.
	I said you might want, you know, there's an island out there.
	You might want to look at it.
	Rothschild Island.
	You might want to look around that.
	See what other islands are.
	See what's going on over there.
	Maybe take a satellite view.
	No, I've been trying to tell people, Jim.
	But my history is a long story.
	This is about you.
	But it was me.
	I said it years ago, on and off, over the years.
	Bill, I'm very, very impressed.
	Let me say, by the way, a current issue very burning to many of us is the role of Donald J. Trump in all of this.
	Because Trump, of course, promoted the war of speed.
	He has recently advocated, you know, announced he got the booster and advocated, you know, taking the vax.
	But he is opposed to mandates, which is good for him, but where many are assessing Trump, hero or villain.
	He created a strong economy.
	He shut down the border.
	He kept America out of war.
	But he followed the dictates of Tony the Rat, perhaps to a fault.
	He benefited Israel and assassinated the great Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani, which I regard as unforgivable.
	He pardoned an Israeli spy and his handler, but neither Julian Assange nor Snowden.
	I mean, that's really distressing in my opinion.
	Bill, your take?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, Jim, I'm glad you brought that up.
	First of all, I did hear you bring some of that up over the last couple of shows that you did this week.
	And I have been on the fence, like I've said, One of the... long time ago that I called in.
	See, Dennis Camino, or Chimino, and I know some of... Oh yeah, yeah.
	We were some of the first... Yeah, Dennis Camino, yep.
	We were some of the few that were... We were pro-Trump at first.
	We wanted to give him a chance.
	We knew all the logic behind it, and then there's just one too many red flags, and too many lackings in some key areas.
	And then finally, things like this started happening with the promotion of the shot, the kill shot and so on.
	And that was where I dropped out.
	You know, I still gave it a possibility.
	He was on our side.
	No, I do not believe he is on our side.
	And he's a big he's well known for being the best, the world's best, not just a good car salesman, just not just a good salesman, not just a guy who sells things down the street, not a guy who sends Sales pens or simply some good real estate.
	No, he's known as the world's best by the elite salesman.
	He knows every trick and I knew he knew every trick years ago and I've known people that know him and the Kennedy's and they've one thing the Kennedy's.
	One thing I knew for many years is that the Kennedy's taught him many behind the scenes secrets.
	And they had to pretend they did not know each other or that well.
	So Trump and the Kennedys were kind of staying away from each other for decades now.
	And then there's a bunch of other things and I'm starting to ramble, but I'm with you, Jim.
	Absolutely.
	Uh, I, I, I cannot trust Trump and, um, I say no government at all.
	If, if it's going to be Trump over.
	Well, the problem is, Bill, that we need leadership in politics, and in the past, I have looked at Trump for a fresh breeze coming from the outside, although I had historically voted Democrat most of my life, including twice for Bill Clinton and even twice for Barack Obama, which had a lot to do with the competition they were up against, such as John McCain, for example, or, you know, Bob Dole, individuals whom I regarded as unqualified for the position.
	What we had here with Trump was a guy who was very successful and seemed to be quite brilliant.
	He made his way in the field of construction.
	Very, very successful.
	Charismatic personality.
	Compared to Hillary Clinton, whom I know to be a monster, she's been deeply involved in all sorts of assorted activities, up to and including murder.
	I mean, the Clinton track record is absolutely ghastly.
	So for me, it was a no-brainer supporting Trump versus Hillary.
	Now, I presumed that he would be returning to office.
	One way or another.
	So the question is, can he get his head screwed on right about the vaccines?
	Because I think if he were to come around and condemn the vaccines instead of taking credit for promoting them, that would make a difference to a lot of us who are, you know, in the process of a painful reexamination.
	He just did an interview with Candace Owens, who's just this brilliant young black woman.
	You know, she's so articulate.
	Tucker Peaches are very often, and by the way, that's the one show I highly recommend everyone should never miss.
	Tucker Carlson on Fox comes on at 7 p.m.
	Central Time, where I reside near Madison, Wisconsin.
	Eight o'clock in the Eastern, I'm unsure what time it appears in the Pacific, but that's a really wonderful show where while Tucker's a little naive about conspiracies, he's really been good about the COVID, the jab, the fraud of the election and things like that.
	He's been excellent.
	I highly recommend it.
	Candace did this interview and published a piece in which she sought to apologize on the ground that he's an older guy and he's not internet savvy, but that doesn't wash.
	I mean, that's a feeble excuse when Trump has to know more than he's allowing.
	And in my opinion, if he does not come clean about the facts and warn people away from Even his opposition to mandates, although that's of course a great positive, is not going to save him from a tremendous loss of support and even public condemnation from many who in the past have regarded him as the greatest thing since sliced bread.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And Candace is cute.
	You're married, so we're not going to get your opinion on that, but Tucker is great.
	I love Tucker as well, and Candace did her best, you know.
	But otherwise, I just can't trust Trump in any case, and actually I do believe he's against us.
	And everything you said, I agree with.
	In other words, obviously it was a no-brainer.
	I was promoting Trump, and I used to hate Trump as a child.
	I figured he would end up being the president, and probably end up being a tyrant.
	And then I tried to force myself to just try to see things as they might be, see the logic, see what he's promoting.
	And obviously we weren't going to have Hillary.
	And by the way, I, I promote, you know how everyone does up their lawn on Halloween with the, with the, with the graves and, you know, you get the gravestone.
	I, it was my concept I've thrown out there to, to have a display be Yeah.
	a Clinton body count display. So that that was my idea. If you ever see, by the way,
	clever, clever, clever. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully someone has done that out there somewhere
	or has like a rolled up like a rug laying there with like a foot sticking out the bottom
	or like a skeleton hand out the front. And, you know, basically you and I agree in just
	about every area. And I'm not.
	I'm a little unsure about Charlottesville myself.
	I just I haven't seen enough about it.
	And you and I were kind of with the Floyd case, at least in the beginning, we were both like, no, this does seem a little more natural than fake.
	I was up in the air.
	I'm still a little up in the air, to be honest.
	But what do you what do you take about the matter of fact, I know you started being convinced Towards it being propaganda with that car, whatever it was, crashed through the crowd.
	You're talking to Charlottesville?
	Well, no, I mean the recent one, like a guy drove into a bunch of people.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're talking about in Waukesha, Waukesha.
	Yes, Waukesha.
	I want to hear more of your views on that, too, if you think we have time.
	Oh, of course we have time.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	No, I think Waukesha was a case where this BLM supporter, a black guy, I think he believed the fake news that he thought that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist.
	I think he even may have believed that Kyle shot three black guys, killing two and wounding the third.
	They not only were not black, they all three appear to have been Jewish.
	In fact, there's a very interesting aspect to that.
	The one who has survived Who had his bicep blown off by Kyle when he raised a handgun and was about to shoot Kyle, explained to a friend in the hospital where he was recovering that his only regret was that he had not unloaded on Kyle and taken him out.
	Well, they had a warrant to download the contents of his cell phone, which was never executed, and a detective With a Waukesha police force that he'd never seen that happen before.
	My belief is it would have revealed that they were acting in concert to take out Kyle, that it would have been very, very damning that they were going to use an example of him as to someone who showed up with a gun at a protest, and how hazardous it can be to do that.
	Instead, of course, he was spectacular with his weapon.
	Now, Bill, you may or may not know In the Marine Corps, at one point, I supervised recruit training with 15 DIs and 300 recruits under my command.
	I don't know of anyone I ever encountered in the Marine Corps who could have handled themselves as well as Kyle Rittenhouse.
	No doubt there are many in the Marine Corps, but I'm just telling you, I was tremendously impressed with the way Kyle Rittenhouse handled himself.
	There's a brilliant attorney who is our nation's leading expert on self-defense by the name of Andrew Branca, who went through each of the six charges that were brought against Kyle, five of which were with regard to the shootings, the sixth of which was for unlawful possession of a weapon, but it only applied if the barrel was shorter than, as I recall, 16 inches, which this was not.
	So that was a fabricated charge.
	The judge threw it out, but the prosecutor knew in bringing the charge that it had no validity whatsoever.
	One of several examples of malfeasance by the prosecuting attorney.
	Who also suborned perjury.
	Kyle was there because he'd been invited to help protect the car lot owned by two Indians who'd come to America from India and built up their car lot from one car to three lots with hundreds of vehicles.
	Very successful.
	He put them on the stage.
	And even though Kyle had been solicited by them.
	He suborned perjury by having them deny that they'd had any contact with Kyle.
	Not only that, but he withheld drone footage of the event, which was in high definition.
	And in each of the instances when Kyle fired, that he was doing so in self-defense, that he was under attack.
	And the prosecution only share it with the defense after the case had been given to the jury bill.
	So this was grotesque misconduct by the prosecutor, in my opinion.
	He not only should be brought before the Bar of Wisconsin, but he should lose his license and be prosecuted for what he did in the courtroom against Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Well, he should be investigated to find out if he's basically in the mob racketeering or something, being paid off for You know, we're too nice.
	We're just too nice on bureaucrats and people in the government and lawyers.
	We really are.
	But, but yeah, they received deference because they are or are supposed to be enforcing the law.
	But what do the Democrats do with their whole, you know, motif of defunding the police bill?
	What they have done is really to legalize all kinds of criminal actions, looting, riots, arson, so that now we have out in California organized looting taking place, where you get a caravan showing up at a high-end department store and just looting the place and driving off, and the police are doing nothing about it.
	And it's just shocking because once the criminals know there's going to be no law enforcement, they could commit crimes with impunity.
	They're going to go whole hog.
	And once that begins to happen, the toothpaste is out of the tube.
	It's virtually impossible to restore the sense of civility that came from the dependable enforcement of the law by a suitably numerous mechanism such as The thin blue line.
	I mean that thin blue line is what separates us from civilization and anarchy and the Democrats eradicated, they erased the thin blue line bill.
	I think the American people are going to pay a heavy price for the Democrat indulgence in this absurdity, the idea of defunding the police.
	I'm impartial to defunding the police as long as We have weapons and we defend ourselves and our shops, then they'll be pretty quick to not raid your shop.
	But unfortunately, the way this is going, it's designed years, many, many years ago, I have, I don't remember the exact history, but you know, they did a test on anarchy, but they made sure it went bad so that we would never go to anarchy.
	And they basically got everybody angry at each other, got everyone ready for anarchy, say, okay, we're going to This town or whatever is it's just going to officially be no police, no rules, anyone.
	It'll be legal to kill anyone.
	It starts now.
	Everybody killed each other who wanted to kill everybody who's waiting for years.
	It was a big disaster right away.
	And if it went on longer, people would have probably normalized and just kind of eventually backed off each other.
	But then, of course, they closed the whole thing down and declared Anarchy could never, ever work, and we're not going to do anarchy.
	But we know provocateurs and paid stage actors and, you know, people causing trouble are going to be involved.
	But here's the thing.
	Obviously, we know they want to do exactly what you're talking about.
	They want to instigate infinite crime, let everyone out of jail, and then it's going to ruin the area.
	It'll become an impoverished zone.
	They'll eventually want to bring in the National Guard in some places or they'll wait for that anarchy moment.
	We're talking about where suddenly the people rise up and in mass just shoot the hell out of all, you know, like Antifa or whatever and they're going to call in the National Guard and they're going to take over.
	It's going to be martial law and in California, we know it's it goes beyond this in the immediate sense.
	In other words, they got it going.
	They said you can steal up to $500 worth of goods.
	And that got the ball going.
	It got it greased.
	So they got used to it.
	Then they became dependent on it.
	But the more you steal from a store, the more the stores go under, and there are less jobs.
	So people now need to steal.
	So more people steal.
	And they get so used to it and so emboldened, they go over that $500 mark.
	And then And then even further, and it gets to be what we're talking about right now.
	And they're really that's their life now.
	And they're just going to ruin the whole area.
	And eventually those people who went over the $500 mark, the government actually wants to arrest some of them.
	And they'll, they'll facially recognize them.
	They'll find them in the future.
	Anyone.
	They got the ball rolling.
	They knew someday they're going to use it against some of them.
	Oh, you're making a lot of good points, Bill.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My understanding was I thought shoplifting went up to $950 without prosecution.
	More of your thoughts.
	You're making a lot of good points, Bill.
	My understanding was I thought shoplifting went up to $950 without prosecution.
	You got these George Soros funded DAs in there who, like the DA in Waukesha, and this is
	returning to the question you were asking about what happened there, the DA in Waukesha
	had released this fellow, Darrell Brooks, even though he'd run over his girlfriend with
	his SUV.
	He had him out on a $1,000 bail.
	The DA had said he doesn't believe in bail.
	He thinks bail is racist.
	He'd even admitted in the past that innocent people were going to be harmed or even killed because of his policy.
	And here you have this guy taking off in his red SUV and running through this parade.
	I do believe that it was a bona fide event.
	But it also appears to be a hybrid in the following respect.
	There was footage that seemed to be of spectators hovering over bodies in the street.
	There was no surge of EMTs on the scene.
	You couldn't see any of the bodies.
	And that appears to me to be a bit staged, Bill.
	I think that part of the bodies in the aftermath was staged.
	The fact that you didn't have a surge of EMTs or ambulances that is seen as very suspicious.
	That happened at the Boston bombing.
	There was no surge of EMTs.
	There was no string of ambulances to rush the wounded off to hospitals.
	Even bona fide physicians in Boston were not allowed to give aid and assistance to the presumably injured because in fact they were actually amputee crisis actors, Bill.
	and had a real position arrived there you know on the scene it would have blown their cover
	similarly in sandy hook no surge of emts into the building no string of ambulances to rush
	their little bodies off the hospitals where they could be declared to be dead or alive
	i mean it was just outrageous on all fronts yeah because you had um you had a guest on that and
	both you and me i was more thinking it was it was real you know it was not faked and your guest
	was it was fairly convincing you know he made some good arguments and um do you remember the
	name of that guest jim no you're talking about rush winter oh okay yeah yeah i think so and um
	we're just about at the top of the hour everyone we have james h fetcher with us doctor actually
	Dr. James Fetzer with us.
	Jim, tell everybody, ramble off a good list of all your books.
	I have 40 books.
	I have over two dozen academic or scholarly books on the theoretical foundations of scientific knowledge of computer science, artificial intelligence, cognitive science, evolution and mentality.
	Two dozen plus.
	And I have another dozen plus in the area of conspiracy research, four books on JFK, two on 9-11, a co-authored book on the plane crash that took the death of Senator Paul Wellstone, and then books on Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing, Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, one on Las Vegas' forthcoming.
	Let me say, in the conspiracy research area, Undertake collaborative research.
	I bring together the best experts to ever study these cases and take them apart and figure out what really happened.
	For example, in relation to JFK, my first book, Assassination Science 1998, brought together a world authority on the human brain, who was also an expert on wound ballistics, a PhD in physics, who's also an MD and board certified in radiation oncology, which is a treatment of cancer using x-ray therapy.
	So he's an expert in the interpretation of x-rays, a physician who was actually in trauma room number one when Jamie was brought in and then two days later was responsible for the care and treatment of his alleged assassin, Lee Oswald, a legendary photo and film analyst, another PhD in physics, this time with a specialty in electromagnetism, the properties of light and images of moving objects.
	And we discovered that the whole uh... event had been covered up by fabricated evidence
	that they have passed a blowout at the back of the head for example that had
	been caused by a shot fired from the front that entered the right to have all
	that other brain had been substituted for the brain of jay okay
	uh... so that what we see in the national archives isn't even jack's
	brain and that the whole movies in the assassination including this a brooder
	especially have been massively edited and revised so well the current
	version and for it it will be back up
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	We have an awesome guest on tonight.
	Jim, you are a dreamer, by the way.
	Anyone who comes on my show is honored to be Oh right, oh right, oh right!
	wants to basically keep the dream alive for the future.
	And I'm not sure which number dreamer you are.
	I think you're number 10.
	We'll give you a big X, like a king.
	Like the king, you know?
	All right.
	Yeah.
	So where do you want to go from here?
	Did you get cut off what you were saying?
	Oh, we're good.
	We're good.
	I'd like to talk about another event that occurred this year that I think is going to
	have surprisingly significant repercussions, which is the Jussie Smollett hate crime scandal
	in Chicago.
	And the reason, Bill, I think this is a significant event is because it was a small enough hoax That the ordinary American could wrap his mind around it, unlike 9-11 or even Sandy Hook.
	It's difficult to realize that you could have a whole community involved in a fraud, like a fake shooting at what's supposed to be an abandoned school, where 20 kids and 6 adults are alleged to have died, and for none of it to be true.
	I mean, that's tough for Americans to believe.
	What happened with Jussie Smollett, where he claimed to have been attacked at 2 a.m.
	in the morning on the coldest day in Chicago, where it turned out he paid two Nigerian bodybuilders with a personal $3,500 check, that they actually had rehearsed the whole thing in advance.
	One of them, Bill, was his personal trainer, and the other was an extra on the set of Of Empire, where he was an actor.
	This is an absurd story the public can wrap its mind about, and it's also a hoax supported by fake news that contradicts critical race theory, which tells us that America is divided into the oppressors and the oppressed, and that the oppressors are white, and that the oppressed is everybody else, because here you had This black Jewish actor coming out of a subway at 2 a.m.
	and claiming a couple of rednecks were there to attack him, carrying a bottle of bleach and a noose and wearing masks.
	I mean, think about it, Bill.
	How many rednecks are going to be wandering around Chicago wearing face masks and a noose and a bottle of bleach at 2 a.m.
	when the temperature was so cold?
	The bottle of bleach would have frozen solid, Bill.
	I mean, that wasn't a story.
	Yeah, even bleach.
	And I believe it was like a windy night, too.
	Am I wrong?
	Was it windy also?
	Oh, yeah, sure.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, was it Kim Fox?
	the prosecutor and like the whole gang. They were all like related, knew each other. You got Kamala
	Camelot there, you know, propping up Kim fight. Oh, let him go. Let him go. Even the black people
	know this dude's lying, man. This guy's not even a good actor. So Jussie Smollett, you were saying?
	Yeah, yeah. Well, one of the clues observed by the former commissioner of police, who's himself
	black, was Jussie Smollett's sandwich, which was the key to the case.
	This guy had the sandwich in his hand, never been touched.
	That was a real tip and a clue to us that something was amiss because normally a victim just abandons whatever they had with them at the time they'd been attacked because they were so afraid.
	Not only that, but when they interviewed him, Right, right.
	And you know, I mean, the sandwich probably would have froze solid too.
	He probably would have used it as a club.
	or no black man's going to get a noose around his neck for a fraction of a second if he
	can get rid of it, yet here was Jussie still wearing it.
	Right, right.
	And you know, I mean, the sandwich probably would have froze solid.
	He probably would have used it as a club.
	I mean, would have swung it at him.
	Well, I believe it was a tuna sandwich and I happen to like Subway tuna sandwiches, so
	whether they're made of tuna is actually a question.
	But believe it or not, yeah, you mentioned Kim Fox.
	She herself has been very explicit about being, you know, regarding Kamala Harris as her mentor, that she wouldn't be where she is were it not for Kamala.
	And in addition, she was contacted by Michelle Obama's former chief of staff to go easy on Jussie.
	And of course, she dismissed the charges against Jussie, which was completely absurd.
	I mean, they spent thousands of police man hours on the case, and the idea of dismissing it was inexcusable.
	So she's come under critical scrutiny.
	Not only that, it appears that Jussie, so far as I can tell, is the nephew of Kamala.
	He's out on the campaign trail with Kamala.
	We have photographs.
	And she had an anti-lynching bill before the Senate, co-sponsored with Cory Booker, that no one thought was really necessary.
	So after this event went down, she described it immediately as a modern-day lynching.
	In order to gain support for her unnecessary bill.
	I mean, it was all totally contrived and poorly carried out.
	I mean, this is embarrassing.
	Now, as I say, what I like about this case, Bill, is because even those who may be skeptical of conspiracy theories can see this was a fabricated stage event.
	So it involved multiple people and therefore a conspiracy.
	That it had a political objective and that the mainstream media, rather than investigating to verify the facts, went with a story so it was fake news.
	And in addition, as I've observed, it undermines the whole Democrat motif about the white guys being the bad guys.
	Here you've got a black guy.
	Who's also gay and Jewish, being the perpetrator of a hoax.
	And I think once the public gets its mind in the jar that hoaxes do occur, even if this may be among the most trivial in terms of its overarching significance, that can get their mind open enough that they can consider other cases just might be hoaxes too.
	So I believe this is going to have reverberations that are going to be enduring.
	Yeah, yeah, good point.
	Absolutely.
	And you know, I mean, I'm not sure if I should say this or not.
	And I don't even know how to say this correctly.
	But I mean, this this could potentially make see what what Jussie did was first of all, obviously wrong.
	And, you know, we're generally white people and black people get along.
	I've been raised in the cities everywhere.
	There was racism.
	It finally went away.
	It just went away.
	Everyone just mingled perfectly.
	Now all this stuff is back.
	But see, what Jussie did, when someone like him makes a mistake and gets caught, that actually might cause a little racism.
	Black people should be angry at him, I guess is what I should be saying, because it's making them look stupid.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, he got caught, everything was bundled, everything was all bungled up in every kind of way.
	And I don't even like the idea that it might even make some white people think black people really are stupid.
	I don't like either idea.
	Like, the black people should be mad at him just for making them appear like they're, you know, they're stupid.
	It's just a thought, Jim.
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, you know.
	Well, Bill, it's just ridiculous.
	These guys were reportedly yelling at Jussie.
	This is mega country.
	Well, Chicago isn't mega country.
	Chicago's a big time Democrat.
	You know, the very idea these guys would be out there was just absurd on his face.
	So I think this has been a calamity.
	Jussie, however, appears to be a narcissist.
	Who suffers from the grandiose reality to his own preference, and he was totally unapologetic on the stand, and that leads me to infer the probability he's going to receive a more severe sentence than would have been the case had he admitted it was a stunt for which he felt responsible, guilty, and sorrowful.
	Right, right.
	And I mean, he's still denying it.
	I mean, the last I've seen, he was, he still said he's not guilty.
	I mean, last week or something?
	Yeah.
	It's, it's just crazy.
	Got a little message from Metal Rabbit here, but keep, keep going, Jim.
	I'm just going to double check, make sure management isn't, see what they have to say.
	But yeah, excellent, excellent information, Jim, as always.
	Yeah, keep going.
	I'll be right back.
	Well, here's another of the top stories of 2021.
	We have the Sandy Hook parents, and this was all a completely fabricated event, going after Remington.
	I mentioned, I believe, Amazon banned Nobody Died at Sandy Hook already when it first appeared in 2015.
	Less than a month after it got on sale, even though it sold nearly 500 copies.
	You'd think a book distributor would like a book that sold nearly 500 copies in less than a month.
	The parents, who are fake, have brought slap suits against a number of us.
	James Tracy, Wolfgang Hell, Big Alex Jones, and me were on slap suits as a strategic lawsuit against public participation.
	This is supposed to put Individuals who are inquiring into these cases in their place.
	It's the legal equivalent of calling somebody a conspiracy theorist, but taking measures to ensure they're never able to get their evidence in the court.
	They're after Remington for what was in fact a mass casualty exercise involving children.
	We even have the FEMA manual for the event with a rehearsal.
	On 13 December 2012, going live, meaning presented for evaluation the following day, not only do we have the manual, but the events that were going down on the 13th were consistent therewith.
	There was a portable sign that said, everyone must check in.
	Well, right in the manual it says, everyone must check in with a controller upon arrival.
	There were pizza and bottled water available at the firehouse, and porta-potties were already in place.
	I asked a detective whether he'd ever heard of porta-potties in place at a crime scene.
	He thought it was simply absurd, ridiculous.
	But FEMA exercises, they always provide refreshments in restrooms.
	Then we had a whole lot of persons there with name tags on lanyards.
	But, Bill, that's how they identify the participants, by color-coded name tags on lanyards.
	In addition, we had parents bringing children to the scene.
	Well, think about it.
	No parent is going to bring a child to the scene of a child-shooting massacre.
	I mean, it's just absurd.
	And so, you know, all the signs were there that it was an exercise.
	All the signs were also there that it wasn't a real emergency, because the following day there was no surge of EMTs into the building, there was no string of ambulances to rush the little bodies off to hospitals where they could be declared dead or alive.
	No medevac helicopter was called.
	They put up triage carps, but no bodies of dead or wounded were ever placed on them.
	They did not allow the parents to see the kids, the bodies.
	Now, the parent, I mean, there's no force on earth that could prevent me if I were told that a child of mine were dead, that I could be prevented from seeing the body, but these parents were very obliging.
	They identified them on the basis of photographs, and Bill, that turns out to have been appropriate because they only existed in the form of photographs.
	They took photographs of older kids when they were younger and presented them as the decedents of Sandy Hook, where one of my colleagues In research, Mona Alexis Presley found evidence that some of the parents cynically used photographs of themselves when they were children to be the deceased child they lost at Sandy Hook.
	It's that bad, Bill.
	It's that bad.
	Yeah, Jim, and you know what got me?
	When the whole thing began and it was just kind of rolling out that it may or may not be Uh, false flag.
	I mean, what turned me almost right away?
	First of all, I've been on set.
	I could have gone the actor route.
	I've, I've been, um, uh, you know, on set many, many times.
	Um, and, um, like, so I know what you're talking about.
	I'm just wondering where they had the craft services, craft services, you know, and, um, that's what I'd be looking for.
	But, you know, so.
	But then they showed us that that psychologist or something.
	Right.
	And he's like, poor Emily.
	He's crying.
	He's he's doing this fake crying.
	He's like a mental like like like it's like he's like a mental case, like an emotional wreck.
	You know, like and he talked about, oh, the bus dropped him off here.
	I let the kids in the house.
	They had the stuffed animals or whatever he said.
	Yeah, I've seen Rosen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that was Rosen.
	Which one was the guy?
	God, it might be my friend's dad.
	I'm not sure.
	The guy who, um, the coroner who, who, who messed up Wayne Carver, Wayne Carver.
	Yeah.
	That whole joke.
	Right.
	And, um, and then a whole lot more that you've brought up in the past.
	Um, yeah, there's no way this was real.
	And, um, I feel.
	I feel obviously the local bankers were may have been involved in mayor or whatever.
	And, um, you know, Jim, I probably know a lot of these actors.
	I mean, I've been around like the thousand or hundreds and where they come from all over, right out of state, but mostly around the whole region, like that region.
	And, um, um, I mean, I swear I probably know some of the actors there, but.
	Well, let me just say, you mentioned Gene Rosen.
	Then there was a picture photo op proving what you're basically talking about, that
	they were pictures from the past, you know, and they're kind of grown up now, some of
	them.
	And, uh, well, actually you take it from here because, uh, yeah, cause you, you, you covered
	this great, actually, this is one of your great ones.
	Well, let me just say, you mentioned Gene Rosen.
	I mean, he said that a bus driver had dropped off four or five kids.
	I mean, depending, the number changed depending on the telling.
	And that he brought them in and had them play with stuffed animals and drink orange juice until they began to tell him that their teacher was dead.
	But think about it.
	A bus driver isn't going to drop off kids at the home of someone who's not their custodian or their parent.
	And Gene Rosen was neither to any of these children.
	So the whole story was simply absurd.
	From the beginning.
	Simply absurd from the beginning.
	And the fact that they made so many mistakes about the script, they claimed that Nancy Lanzu was supposed to be the mother of Adam, had been a teacher at the school, turned out to be false, even had reports from networks that only handguns had been found in the school and yet he was supposed to have used this AR-15 to have shot away the kids, yet the ATF officer responsible for investigating their background with regard to weapons found no records of Nancy or Adam having gone to any shooting range to practice their marksmanship.
	The kid weighed 112 pounds, six feet tall, he's supposed to have lugged like 35 pounds of equipment into the school.
	It was absurd from the beginning!
	And yet the American people bought it lock, stock and barrel because there's been such an effort made in order to promote it by the mainstream media.
	Yeah, and and someone pointed out there were no parking spaces for like handy.
	I think it was handicapped parking spaces.
	I noticed there was no flag up for one of them photo ops.
	No flag in the flagpole.
	At one point.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	Even the photograph of the parking lot is damning.
	For example, as you observe, there was no blue and white painted parking areas for handicapped.
	No blue and white signs for handicapped parking.
	That means they were in violation with American for Disability Act and could not have been open legally operating as a public school in Connecticut.
	I checked the state and the federal law at the time, and if this school had it been operating, it would have clearly been in violation.
	They also had exits and entries that were not wheelchair accessible.
	That's another violation.
	They had rows of cars there that were all parked facing the school building, but that's absurd, because if you follow the parking instructions, you drive in from Dickinson Drive, turn right, and then curl around and park facing away, but in fact it
	appears they were all brought in in a single stream and put in two by two by two. I mean after
	all who is even going to notice they were only props. I just learned today another tell. They're full
	of bikes.
	I mean, there was supposed to be 489 kids there.
	Many of them would have bicycled to school, but there weren't any bike racks.
	There weren't any bikes.
	Why?
	Because there weren't any students there.
	I mean, the whole thing is just as absurd as it can get.
	And you can discern that it was fraudulent, even from a photograph of the parking lot.
	Yeah.
	And was it was it you, Jim, that pointed out that Emily, that little girl, was Yeah, at the Super Bowl, they had a Sandy Hook Chorus that included a number of the children who were supposed to be dead.
	or something?
	Is this- Yeah, at the Super Bowl, they had a Sandy Hook chorus that
	included a number of the children who were supposed to be dead.
	So they're doing a pretty good performance for kids who are no longer alive.
	And we didn't have any number of cases yet.
	We had stage photographs and the like.
	One of the decedents appeared to be sitting on the lap of Barack Obama.
	But there are oh, so many questions about these families, their real identity, and how the whole thing was fabricated.
	The school district made out like a bandit, by the way.
	They got $50 million for a new school.
	When it was discussed as to whether or not the school could be refurbished, they explained it was loaded with asbestos and other biohazards, damaged by a hurricane.
	There was even a major flood in the area in 2007, of which I was unaware when I edited the book.
	But the fact of the matter is, we had confirmation from other sources.
	A fellow who was a contractor was visiting a friend in Monroe, which is not far distant, unbeknownst to him.
	They were going over to Sandy Hook to pick up some school desk on the cheap for his kids to use at home, and while he was there inspecting the building, it was in a terrible condition, and the custodian there, the only person present, said they expected it was going to be torn down, so that I believe the school district desire to have a free ride for replacing the school was one of the motives.
	But where Barack Obama appears to have been the instigator, he nullified the Smith-Mutt Act of 1948, which precluded this use of the same techniques of propaganda and disinformation, including staged events within the United States, which were only being allowed to be used abroad by the Smith-Mutt Modernization Act of 2012, just in time to bring us Sandy Hook.
	Where his vice president, Biden, was cited by the mayor of Boston just a few weeks before Sandy Hook.
	He appeared on the show Greater Boston, hosted by Andy Rooney's daughter.
	And he was boasting about his relationship with Joe.
	You know, the vice president had assured him that gun control would be a done deal by January
	of 2013, which was only six or eight weeks away.
	Andy Rudy's daughter was simply shocked and appalled and said, what could possibly happen
	to bring about legislation passing so quickly?
	The mayor wouldn't acknowledge what it was, but of course it would be Sandy Hook, where
	Eric Holder traveled to Connecticut and met with the governor on the 27th of November
	and appears to be the one with whom the governor was spoken to, that something like this might
	happen to which he alluded during his press conference, where something like this can
	only have two options, namely that he'd been warned that a student might go berserk and
	come into one of the schools and shoot it up, in which case he had the obligation to
	notify the school system to increase their security to ensure it did not happen.
	Which he did not do, or the alternative.
	He'd been informed they were taking an abandoned school, conducting a drill, and presented it as a live event to promote gun control, which is exactly what happened.
	Indeed, one of the contributors to my book, Paul Brassen, who has his own radio show called Agenda 21, himself as a school administrator and supervisor of active shooter drills, And he was so disturbed by what he saw being broadcast from Newtown that day that he reached out to his contacts in the Obama Department of Education, all of whom confirmed to him it had been a drill, that no students had been harmed, that it was done to promote gun control.
	So there you have the equivalent of a confession from the Obama administration itself.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I always suspect Bloomberg is funneling money into all this, into all of these myself.
	But, you know, another issue people need to grasp, when we see this on the news, school got shooed up, all shot up, blah, blah, blah.
	People aren't realizing just how many schools there are.
	In other words, and I believe I brought this up on your show years ago, Basically, there's like these, what grades did this go through, Jim?
	Oh, this was a kindergarten to fourth grade.
	It was an elementary school.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're like a dime a dozen.
	They're like on every other street corner, in every neighborhood practically, okay?
	So, they can go down one.
	One could be missing or out of play for quite some time with no one noticing.
	Nobody would notice.
	It's not like it would be.
	How could they hide a school and just do it?
	How could that school not be known that it was shut down?
	No, no one cares.
	It's just an out of the way place.
	Just another school.
	So I think that's important for the psychological factor here for people to get around their minds that it would not be.
	Like so noticeable like.
	In other words, In other words, it's not like a major.
	It's not like a college got shot up.
	It's not like a university got shot up and a whole bunch of people saw it and you can't deny it.
	I'm saying this kind of wrong, but you know you know what I'm saying.
	It's just a dime a dozen.
	And it's an out of the way place.
	There's plenty of them around, so if people know their child is safe from their school, they'll just assume.
	Uhm, they'll just basically They'll think they can't make up a lie like this that big because it would be too obvious when it wouldn't be.
	In other words, they can easily get away with this kind of lie.
	And I'm kind of rambling.
	Sorry about that.
	No, no, you're doing you're doing great.
	I think that's that's right.
	It was actually an act of terrorism by the Obama administration where terrorist acts are intended to instill fear into a target audience.
	And although it was faux terrorism, the public thought it was real, and it had these emotional effects.
	In fact, they were so powerful that there are many today who cannot even abide the mere suggestion that it might have been a staged event, and therefore they had been fooled.
	It was Mark Twain, I believe, who observed it's easier to fool a man than to convince him he's been fooled.
	So once they're taken in, there's an innate resistance to changing your mind, even if the evidence is simply overwhelming.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And did you see any connection to, um, I'm not sure which mayor You obviously did speak of the Connecticut mayor or governor, but did you also bring up a Massachusetts governor or mayor involved in this yet?
	No, what I was alluding to was the mayor of Boston at the time appeared on the radio program Greater Boston that was hosted by Andy Rooney's daughter and was boasting of his close Relationship with a vice president who had assured him that gun control would be a done deal by January of 2013, which was only a few weeks into the future, and where she was dumbfounded.
	You know, what in the world could happen in order for legislation to pass so fast?
	A question which he was unwilling to answer, but there was Sandy Hook for certainty.
	That's what he was talking about.
	Do you connect?
	Who do you think?
	Okay, you have the Boston bombing, and you know, Boston is fairly close to Connecticut.
	I would believe there'd be many connections myself.
	Do you see any connections?
	Do you hear any rumors?
	I don't remember any of your guests.
	I think Connecticut is peculiarly lawless, and it would be a perfect fertile ground for some absurdity like this.
	Connecticut abandoned its sheriffs, for example.
	Most states have sheriffs who have the obligation to uphold the Constitution.
	And they abandoned the sheriffs.
	They have their Connecticut State Police who appear to have been running the shop behind the scene, such that you had this Paul Vance, who is in charge of the contingent at Sandy Hook, who actually stated during a press conference that anyone who questioned the official narrative of Sandy Hook would be prosecuted.
	I mean, think about that.
	How bizarre is that?
	He would be testifying.
	In fact, when Wolfgang Halberg, who resides in Florida, he's a former Florida state trooper, U.S.
	Customs agent, school principal, a nationally recognized school safety expert, innocently began to inquire about what had happened there for the very good reason That he wanted to advise other school systems how to take steps to make sure it didn't happen to them.
	He found that his FOIA inquiries were going unresponded, that his phone calls weren't being returned, and before he knew it, there were two detectives from the local precinct on the porch of his home in a gated community in Florida telling him they were there on behalf of the Connecticut State Police.
	And if he continued to ask questions about Sandy Hook, he would be prosecuted.
	Well, that was just the wrong thing to do with Wolfgang, who is very tenacious like a bulldog and has been very consistent in pursuing it ever since.
	One of his major accomplishments, in my opinion, being that under oath, he secured testimony from the former First select man of Newtown, a position equivalent to Mayor Patricia LaLorda, advising that the city had not placed a sign, everyone must check in there, but that had been done by Homeland Security.
	And of course, Homeland Security should not have been there at all.
	I mean, this was officially just a spontaneous event involving a kid.
	And the fact is FEMA is a branch of Homeland Security, and FEMA was actually running the drill with the cooperation and assistance of the Connecticut State Police.
	So there's a lot going on there.
	That's laid out in the book, which I'm presently unable to distribute because of a lawsuit brought against me.
	I mean, that's quite a story in and of itself, but Bill, let me just say.
	They have gone all out to try to block the public from access about reliable information as to what really happened at Sandy Hook.
	Well, how much money did you lose since then on all this?
	With the court fees and lawyers?
	Yeah, that falls into two different categories.
	Yeah, my legal fees have run in excess of $70,000.
	The fact is that the judgments against me, there was a summary judgment which violated my legal rights.
	I wasn't allowed to present an offense, where the judge said that whether or not anyone had died at Sandy Hook wasn't relevant to the authenticity of the death certificate, where I declared in the book that it was fake.
	Which, by the way, I'm not allowed to reiterate, so I'm just telling you what I was sued about, and where The death certificate itself states that the decedent died at Sandy Hook Elementary School on 14 December 2012 from multiple gunshot wounds, so how can all the evidence I have that it was a FEMA drill and not an actual school massacre not be relevant?
	But that was how the judge ruled, really completely outrageous.
	Then when we focused only on the death certificates, there had been one attached to the complaint that was a certified death certificate.
	It had a file number, it had the town certification, it had the state certification.
	Whereas the death certificate I had published, which the plaintiff had given to my research colleague Kelly Watt, had no file number, no town certification, no state certification.
	So they were completely different, and nevertheless the complaint insisted they were not materially different when they were.
	I thought it was very strange, but believed that there was a benefit to the public from my getting all this evidence about what had or had not happened at Sandy Hook into the public record through the judicial process.
	So I proceeded, and then had my legs knocked out from under me by the court ruling that I couldn't introduce all that evidence.
	I focused on the death certificate, introduced two more death certificates, one of which my co-defendant at the time had obtained from the town, another which I'd obtained from the state.
	So I introduced four different death certificates, each of which was different from the other, and the report of two forensics officers, both of whom reported all four of the death certificates were fake.
	In spite of that, and I'll never forget before my very eyes, prior to my actually testifying during the hearing, the judge spoke with a plaintiff's attorney and said, you know, he said, if I exclude this evidence, then that'll be grounds for an appeal.
	So I'm just going to set it aside as someone else's opinion.
	I mean, well, this is just as outrageous as it gets.
	And then there's no liability without fault.
	They forgot to establish there had been anything negligent about my finding, just as a judge never ruled about my standing as a journalist, even though I was being sued over four sentences, one of which appeared in a blog, three of which appeared in a book I'd edited and published.
	I mean, how could there be a question about my standing as a journalist on which the court would never rule?
	Yeah.
	Are you questioning the new Soviet leaders, Jim?
	Is this, uh, you know, you know, on top of all this, they, you know, they give you.
	There certainly are parallels, Bill.
	I mean, it's bizarre.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you have a gag order to a degree, you know, and, um, the whole DOJ, as you know.
	The book cannot be released because, uh, It allegedly would be a reiteration of the defamatory claims I've made, which don't even mention the plaintiff himself, who goes by the name of Letty Posner, and get this, Bill.
	He came to Madison to testify in a video deposition under oath.
	But I was suspicious then that it wasn't the same guy, the man whose photograph has appeared millions of times all over the world with his son Noah.
	This is supposed to be Lenny Bosner and Noah Bosner.
	This guy was 20, 20 years younger and 100 or more pounds lighter.
	So I think this was totally fraudulent.
	And when I Not only after the judge found me guilty of defamation and there was a separate trial for damages that the jury fined against me for $450,000, but when I sought to locate an impeachment witness and share the video deposition so he could see the image of the guy who had appeared here under oath, and I was going after Wolfgang Halbig, the judge held me in contempt because there was a
	Confidentiality aspect to the video deposition, which I believe did not interfere with my use of the deposition for my own legal defense.
	Nevertheless, he found me in contempt of court and added attorney fees, which in Wisconsin never happens, to the tune of, get this Bill, $650,000 more.
	650,000 more. So now I have claims against me of $1,100,000 for what I would describe as speaking
	the truth, but which the court will not allow me to reaffirm about Sandy Hook.
	Well, I'll be referring to Snopes after the show is over, James.
	So, um, we'll find out, you know, the truth right now, but, but you know, yeah.
	Oh, I forgot what I was going to say.
	Now that I bring up Snopes, um, Oh, you know, later on though, I want your take on the Christmas bombing and maybe that guy Shippey in Waco, but don't worry about that right now.
	You know what I wanted to do?
	I did this a little bit and let me know what you've, I'm sure you've done this, but you know, when you go to, not Lenny, the shooter, the shooter, what the hell is the shooter's name again?
	The kid?
	Adam Lonza.
	Yeah.
	So when you go to Adam Lonza's, at least his parents' house or whatever, the real case was, you know, they have all the video of it,
	you know, they have all the pictures through the home and the, you know, each of the bedroom and
	everything. I was kind of going over those pictures looking for some clue myself as to, you know,
	some hypocrisy or contradiction or something. Have you done that? I'm sure you have. You
	probably have, right? I mean, oh sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. It appears to have been an
	empty house.
	They only furnished to be used as, uh, for propaganda as the, uh, you know, as the, the, the residents, they've now raised it, but it was noticeable there weren't, you know, paintings and decorations on the walls, which is very peculiar.
	Uh, in the photograph bedroom where Adam is supposed to have shot his mother, There's a little red stuff on the bed, but it does not look like blood to me.
	I think it might be raspberry jam.
	Yeah, yeah, you did.
	You did bring this up earlier, at least briefly.
	I kind of forgot.
	Sorry about that.
	But I used to make fake blood, Jim.
	Oh, did you?
	Yeah, I used to.
	I was getting ready to Originally, as a child, I didn't expect to be an actor or anything like that.
	I just figured I'd draw and maybe I'd draw like the concept for the monsters, you know, like creatures or something.
	And and I'd be one of those kind of sketch artists or something for the making of the movie behind the scenes.
	Then it got a little more and a little more and I never got professional or anything.
	But my friend was and we'd have Fangoria and all that.
	And, you know, we tried to find the most realistic blood.
	We made our own blood.
	Every kind there was.
	We bought blood.
	We used to look for realism in blood.
	I'd look at murder scenes.
	I'd go through magazines looking at real murder scenes.
	Believe me, Jim, I know.
	I know real blood.
	And you're probably right about the jam.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, I thought it was raspberry jam.
	And then they had some papers.
	On a cedar chest at the end of the bed where they were keeping records, I think, of how they arranged the rooms.
	And then beneath the leg of the bed, there was a blue moving pad that in their haste, they'd forgotten to remove.
	I mean, this is all pretty bad, you know, embarrassing.
	I seen that blue pad.
	Go ahead, though.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's just striking.
	In fact, it was Kelly Watt.
	Who noticed that she has her own home and commercial cleaning service and she spotted the blue moving pad.
	It was she to whom Lenny sent a copy of the death certificate with no file number, no town, no state certification.
	In fact, it turns out in Connecticut, not even parents are allowed to have an uncertified death certificate.
	So the fact that he even had this was raised serious questions about it, not to mention, of course, my two document experts concluding that it was fake.
	So, you know, the beat just goes on.
	We even have the consolidated crime report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation for 2012, showing at the intersection of Newtown and non-negligent Manslaughter and murder, the number zero, where since Sandy Hook is a division, a subdivision of Newtown, that means there cannot have been any murders or non-negligent homicides, manslaughter in Newtown either, in Sandy Hook either.
	So even the FBI is on my side.
	If you examine the report from the state's attorney, Stephen Sedinsky, which took him nearly a year to complete, you find out it does not establish a causal nexus tying together the alleged shooter with the weapons he's supposed to have used, or the victims he's supposed to have killed, because there were no fingerprints on the .22 caliber rifle with which he's supposed to have shot his mother.
	His fingerprints were not on the weapon.
	Even though they had around 150 slugs from the school, there's a footnote, number 53, saying they were unable to match any of the slugs to the weapon because they were so corroded.
	I mean, it's just embarrassingly bad.
	And, of course, I already mentioned that Barack Obama nullified the Smith-Munn Act of 1948 in order to legitimize these staged events.
	It's just embarrassingly bad.
	I think with the history, if there's an accurate history written, that Barack Obama is going to come off as a disgrace to the American people.
	And of course, Joe Biden already is there.
	In fact, this guy, Bill, is not even the real Biden.
	So we got it.
	We got a fake president assuming a fake office following a fake election.
	You may or may not know, but the guy has a different signature.
	He's got a different skull.
	It's not that Joe Biden was a senator from Delaware for 35 years.
	He gives press interviews, stage performances, literally, literally on a soundstage in the eyes of our executive building.
	We have photographs where you can see the reporters in the audience taking photographs that it was on a soundstage.
	So all of this is just ridiculous beyond belief.
	We could say that the same people who tell you that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and all the cameras failed are the people telling you, this potato got 80 million votes and we don't need an audit to verify them, where Sidney Powell had put out a tweet Before the Dominion machines changed the votes, showing that Trump had won from coast to coast, even carrying California and Minnesota, which I had been predicting with 410 electoral votes versus Biden with 128.
	That's how it actually came out.
	So it's all outrageous, Bill, what's been going on here.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And you know, Dennis, of course, Camino was also Well, he's an actor.
	Yeah, the ears don't match either.
	Joe's ear, whoever he is.
	I don't know what to call him.
	I don't really, you can't really come up with a really good name to name.
	Well, he's an act.
	He's an actor.
	Yeah.
	The ears don't match either.
	Yes, I agree.
	Right.
	And, um, basically, um, I forgot what it was, but, uh, yeah, go ahead.
	I have to rethink this while you're talking.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I was just going to add that fear of Trump was so clobbered the Democrats.
	They've been in fear of him ever since.
	And where it's led to the fake impeachment and staged insurrection, but also flooding the country with immigrants.
	Now, I heard a very, very interesting report from my colleague Scott Bennett earlier today about all the migrants pouring across the border.
	You know, the military giving the vax to our soldiers Is weakening the military.
	And I think a problem they've had is what to do about the American military who would oppose, you know, taking over the United States.
	I believe they're, Scott suggested they're bringing in these migrants.
	They're going to be, they're going to be inducted into the military with a promise of citizenship.
	And then they can use a new army made up of migrants who come from Guatemala or Haiti or God knows where, against the American people.
	I think that's a very significant and disturbing aspect of this, where the guy who's serving as the Secretary of Defense, as Lloyd Austin, is no more qualified for that position than is this actor who's impersonating Joe Biden, you know, in the fake White House.
	The situation is just as absurd as it could be, Bill, just as absurd as it could be.
	Yeah, I call sometimes I do call him Blow Jiden, but other than that, we need a really good name for who this actor is.
	And I was going to say earlier, I finally remembered, you know, what happened to you, Jim, and what's been happening to you is the consequence is always been the known problem of the government propaganda.
	Now you have someone like you who uncovers that it is propaganda.
	Now you have the courts ruling against you and the whole issue of being sued, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars lost.
	This is the negative consequences of that kind of government thinking, trying to say it's legal to propagandize because it's literally going to go against someone.
	They're going to have to deny it.
	Uh, you know, they're going to have to go against people like you.
	And I love Scott, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Um, I notice how you call him a colleague.
	That's great.
	And, um, great points.
	I've always said basically the same thing that this is an army.
	First of all, it's to destroy us, whether they ever become an army or not, but that, but they will, they are going to use some of them at least for an army, uh, legally and Well, it'll all be illegally and unlawful and so on, but in ways that are known and in many ways that are not known.
	What do you know about, I think it's Alex, is it George Soros' son that's Alex Soros in California?
	Or am I thinking of the prosecutor?
	Gavin Newsom, of course, is the governor of California.
	I mean, if you look at the Democrats' bet, who are they going to run, you know, in 2024?
	They don't seem to have anybody.
	Kamala's been a greater disaster than Biden.
	His poll's down to 36% or less.
	Hers, 10 points lower.
	Historic low for any vice president of the United States.
	They're in for an unmitigated disaster, I think, even already at the midterms in 2022.
	I'm predicting they're going to lose 100 seats in the House and a couple in the Senate.
	Most interesting, Bill, is that Democrats have been all over Joe Manchin of West Virginia and attacking him savagely just because he believes in fiscal stability, that, you know, the spending would contribute to massive inflation.
	And of course, it has.
	Money for some 500,000 electrical charging stations, part of the Democrats' effort to destroy the gas and coal industry in the United States.
	Well, Joe Manchin is from a big coal-producing state of West Virginia.
	I think that he would be better off switching parties to the Republicans, or at the very least becoming an independent, but caucusing with the Republicans.
	Which would immediately change the balance of power in Washington and have vast effects.
	So I'm anticipating this may happen with the coming new year, and it would be a sensational development for the American people and for the integrity of politics in America, because there is none with the Democrats.
	They're going to cheat, lie, steal, everything they can.
	I'm terribly worried about, even though the polls show They're going to go down to an overwhelming defeat in the midterms, and they're going to try to steal the election all over again, just as they did in 2020.
	Yeah, and I do like that guy.
	Is it Manchin?
	How do you say his name?
	Manchin, yeah.
	M-A-N-C-H-I-N.
	Yeah, I had heard him on your show this week.
	Was that Friday, the last Friday show?
	Well, I talked about Joe Manchin.
	I never featured him on the show.
	I'd love to do that.
	He's a terrific guy, in my opinion, and taken tremendous abuse from the Democrats.
	Mitch McConnell has extended him the offer that Manchin's been reluctant to think about because he's the head of the Powerful Energy Committee in the Senate.
	McConnell has suggested that if Manchin were to switch parties, he'd retain the position of being the head of the Energy Committee in the Senate.
	So I think that's very, very tempting for the guy, and I hope he will do it.
	Yeah, I'm in Virginia myself, and sort of middle-west Virginia, but I don't have any ID to vote or anything now.
	I had him on his show this week, though, on Rev Radio, and I knew you did bring him up at least, so I'm glad you did.
	Well, look, I mean, how can the Democrats miss the message from Virginia when you have Terry McAuliffe, who's a buddy of Hillary, campaigning as though Trump were still president and against parents for having a role in what their children are taught?
	And it was so massively repudiated that we wound up with a Republican governor, a white guy, a black woman as lieutenant governor, and an Hispanic as attorney general.
	You'd think the Democrats would be celebrating the diversity, but that's only if it's on the other side of the aisle.
	Republicans never get credit for diversity in the Democrat playbook.
	Right, exactly, and wow, we're just about at the end of the show.
	I'm so glad you came on with me tonight, Jim, on the Christmas weekend.
	Folks, you must check out everything Fetzer, okay, James H. Fetzer, Jim Fetzer.
	Basically, Jim, you're on three days a week, and then, wait, are you back on weekends?
	Just the three days?
	I'm doing a show called Need to Know Five Days a Week.
	That's found, you can find it posted on my Bitshoot channel, Jim Fetzer.
	Oh yeah.
	I'm doing the Rod Deal Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
	Wednesdays it's called The Event because it's broadcast over both Studio A and Studio B on Revolution Radio.
	We resume the new JFK Show on Wednesday evenings that show up a day or two later.
	I'm doing Truth vs. News out of Seattle on, we're recording on Sundays.
	We did earlier today.
	I'm actually doing Ten or twelve shows a week, so I thank you, Bill.
	I mean, this is what I'm doing with the rest of my life, my best, to expose the truth to the American people about how they've been played in the belief that the American public is entitled to know the truth about their own history.
	Well, God, I hope Omicron doesn't get you, Jim.
	We need you, man.
	You're a powerhouse.
	You know, if you have any, if any small furry cute animals are born in your home or someone you know, tell them to name any cute animals in particular, Omi or Omicron.
	That's my, I'm going to name my little field mouse Omicron, Jim.
	Because he's so, so big and scary.
	And hey, real quick, what do you think about the Christmas bombing?
	Oh, damn, the show's over, but throw whatever you want out there, Jim.
	Well, thank you so much, Bill.
	It's been a real pleasure and best wishes for the new year, the coming new year to everyone out there in the Revolution Radio audience.
	Yes.
	Awesome.
	Thank you.
	Awesome guy.
	Logic.
	A true logician!
	Thank you Lee and Jim!
	Merry Christmas!
	Happy New Year!

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