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"Flash Gordon" with Robert Morningstar (22 November 2021)
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We took a short break here at Revolution Radio, freedomslips.com, and now we're going to get
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Thank you for joining us for the second part of our program today.
This is the Flash Gordon Radio Club, and it is quite appropriate because the subject, or one of the subjects that we will talk about today, is space war.
And how UFOs and space war in the 1960s figured in the death of John F. Kennedy.
A little later in the program, I'm going to read you two memos.
Well, one is a memo written by President Kennedy, and the other one is an intercept from the National Security Agency that intercepted a communication, private communication, between the President of the United States and Premier Nikita Khrushchev of the Soviet Union, which will reveal That they were trying to achieve peace between our nations, cooperation in outer space, and dealing with the threat that UFOs pose to national security of the United States of America and to the Soviet Union.
We have our other co-host has joined us, Andrew Curry, in Vancouver, British Columbia.
And I'm going to turn to him for a few minutes of the cross-border perspective from Canada and a short report that he is going to give us.
Then we're going to rejoin with Professor James Fetzer.
And when we engage with Professor Fetzer, again, I encourage you to ask questions or make comments.
Professor Fetzer is one of the world's foremost experts on this topic.
And He is a professor of logic.
What is it that, Jim, you have a seat, a chairmanship, or had one at University of Minnesota, but you specialized in logic and clear thinking.
I earned my PhD in the history and the philosophy of science and began a 35-year academic career in 1970, offering courses principally in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning.
Yeah, that's the overlap.
In 1996, the University of Minnesota introduced a new rank for whole professors who'd made significant contributions that enhanced the reputation of the University of Minnesota while they were Members of the faculty at the University of Minnesota, and I was in the first 10 to be appointed a distinguished McKnight University professor, where I am now a distinguished McKnight University professor emeritus, having retired in 2006.
Which is when I moved near Madison, Wisconsin to be near family members, and it's just been glorious being here.
It's a great title.
McKnight.
It is.
It is.
I love the title.
Yeah, I always liked it.
And while we're here, and since you mentioned Wisconsin, my sympathies and deep condolences to the people of Waukesha, Wisconsin, for the tragedy that occurred there yesterday.
Let me turn now to Andrew Curry.
Robert, let me just squeeze a word in there.
The media is trying to spin this as though there was some kind of excuse or explanation for this.
There was no excuse or explanation for this.
This was a single black guy with dreadlocks, a supporter of BLM, who I guarantee was pissed off about the Kyle Rittenhouse Trial that he believed the fake media reports that Kyle had shot three black men.
He didn't even know they were white, that it was a case of self-defense, that he was not a white supremacist.
In fact, he just did a interview with Tucker where he explained, actually, he supported BLM.
He thinks changes need to be made, but he believes protests should be peaceful.
Now, because this black man mowing down, you know, he killed five and he injured 48, including a half a dozen children.
It contradicts the Democrat narrative of whites killing blacks, because here you have a black killing whites.
So we're getting nothing but a smothering reports or ignorance.
Actually, they're doing their best to pretend.
That this guy didn't do this on purpose, but anyone who watches the video, he was there deliberately mowing them down.
He was traveling at least 40 miles an hour.
He had to crash through a barrier to get there.
You see the car bumping as it drives over people.
It is truly disgusting.
They're covering up massively.
They had the FBI swoop in immediately and take control to silence him so he couldn't explain why he did it.
But I guarantee you, If you consider the alternatives, what's the probability that he'd had a minor domestic dispute that led to this when he's got a rap sheet that runs some 500 pages?
I mean, this guy has committed all kinds of assaults and offenses.
He's out on probation.
He's wanted in different states for different offenses.
They just want to cover it up.
Because the Democrats have put it all on Black Lives Matter and racism, and this contradicts their narrative.
I cannot be too emphatic about this.
That's what's going on, and no one ought to have any illusions about it.
Right.
We should not gloss it over.
I have told the audience over and over again, especially my fellow African Americans, you are being used In that term, the communists always use unwitting people as useful idiots, being set up to become cannon fodder.
In every communist revolution, they have used innocent people, unwitting people, to create martyrs in the streets, and they are being led by Judas Goat to the slaughter.
So, Here's another interesting thing.
I was shocked many years ago to learn from a Russian friend that the word Bolshevik means Democrat in Russian.
And I have said, it was the Democrat Party, Lyndon Johnson, J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI, the CIA, the Deep State, who killed President Kennedy.
And the Democrat Congress went along with it, rubber stamping the Warren Commission report and hiding the facts for as long as they could.
We'll return to this topic.
Let's turn to Andrew because he's got some very serious things happening around him in Canada.
And so let's hear from Andrew and then we'll go back to Professor Fetzer.
Yeah, thank you, Robert.
I need to add to this.
That's what I do.
Yeah.
Darryl Brooks Jr.
Let me read a little bit of his criminal history.
I got to go here.
Darryl E. Brooks Jr.
of 19th Street has open charges filed November the 5th, 2021.
November the 5th, folks, in Milwaukee courts for resisting an officer misdemeanor, felony bail jumping, second degree recklessly endangering safety felony with domestic abuse assessments, disorderly conduct, And battery, both misdemeanors, also with domestic abuse assessment.
He posted a thousand dollar cash bail on November the 19th, 2021.
That's despite the fact he has another open felony case in Milwaukee County from 2020.
That case is for second degree recklessly endangering safety, felony with use of dangerous weapons, two counts, and possessing firearms convicted of a felony felony charge.
The case was filed in July 2020, but it remains pending.
Milwaukee County Courts is dealing with a major backlog in cases.
Not only that, but I've caught wind that he is also a sexual predator, potentially a pedophile, and the mainstream media is painting him as not that at all.
And we folks need to keep an eye on this normalizing.
Let me just make one comment in addition.
with children and Robert we know why. Do you want to explain it really
quickly what's coming up? No you go ahead. Let me just make one comment in
addition. His most recent offense was for trying to run over his girlfriend or his
ex with a car. So here's what he's doing.
He's got a new area of specialization, taking out people he doesn't like with a vehicle.
And I have no doubt he felt this was retaliation revenge for a corrupt judicial system exonerating a white supremacist for killing blacks.
And he was going to show Black people aren't going to take it any longer.
I have no doubt.
I'm really glad you brought up his history because this is a disgusting guy and the Democrats are going to try to brush it off.
I mean, the hypocrisy here between these two cases of Kyle Rittenhouse and this guy in Waukesha I think the Democratic Party has been destroyed effectively as an entity on many other grounds as well, but these are dramatic cases that are going to make their position politically about guns and race and a host of other issues no longer palatable, no longer plausible to the American people.
Yes, thank you, Andrew.
I would like to point out this is not the first time that we've seen the use of automobiles as a weapon.
And this is something that was promoted by jihadis, by Muslim fanatics in Europe.
You'll remember that in East France, a jihadi drove a truck through tourists in Nice and killed many people there.
And in New York City, during President Trump's administration, another Muslim fanatic took an SUV and raced it through lower Manhattan, killing several people, maiming many others.
So the message that the ghost brought to me, Lucifer has taken over Islam and is going to use it as his vehicle to destroy mankind, is what we see at play.
BLM and Radical Islam and Communism have merged.
I coined the word in 1999-2000 when I got a copy of the Chinese war plan called Unrestricted Warfare, which described the desirability of destroying a target in the United States that would be both psychological and economic.
And it cites the World Trade Center As an ideal target, and it also cites the need to use a third party organization and actually says, like the Bin Laden group, to conduct the operation.
And at that time, realizing and seeing around the world that Chinese communism was seducing Islamic terrorists and enlisting them to their agenda across the Middle East and in Africa.
I coined the word communism and I started to promote that word communism and some friends thought that it was being a little too radical religiously bigoted until 9-11 and after 9-11 the day after 9-11 I got calls from all around the country and across from Europe and mostly apologetic saying Robert you know I criticized you I told you it was too radical and it might be considered hate speech, but now I understand.
And since that time, I have seen it unfolding.
So let's label the enemy what it is.
I am very gratified that one year after 9-11, in the summer of 2002, when Osama bin Laden was hiding in his rat hole, He vindicated me.
He validated me.
He issued a fatwa, a religious order, which I memorized.
It was reported in the BBC and then in the West here it was suppressed.
But Osama bin Laden said in July of 2002, I urge all members of the Ummah, which is a word for the group soul of Islam, I urge all members of the Ummah to support communist insurrections wherever they may occur because Communism and Islam are the same thing.
And there you have it.
That's why I call it Communism.
Robert, you had a big exception to that.
Osama was our man in Afghanistan.
He was instrumental in getting the Stinger missiles into the hands of the Tajiks.
Yes, I know, I know.
But he still did stuff.
They used to shoot down the Soviet helicopters in place.
He was an officer in the CIA, Colonel Tim Osman.
He was even visited by an official of the agency at a hospital in Dubai shortly before his death.
On 15 December 2001, he was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with Muslim tradition.
There were local obituaries.
Fox News and CNN both published on the 25th of December that Osama Bin Laden was dead.
I know quite a lot about this because I founded Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December 2005 and brought together experts from all over the world.
We have been massively plagued.
Osama was just a pansy.
He was no more responsible for 9-11 than Lee Oswald was for the death of JFK.
It's that bad.
Yeah, there are a lot of puppets and stooges that have been used throughout this.
Back to you, Andrew, to finish up your report.
Robert, could I weigh in for a sec?
I'll leave that to Andrew.
Shall we let him, Andrew?
Absolutely.
Yeah, Peter, go ahead.
Well, I just wanted to weigh in on the Christmas Day, the Christmas Parade Massacre.
And I'd like to create a conspiracy theory that this man did not think up this idea and this organized this event by himself.
I, my conspiracy theory is that this was all organized and this was planned by an establishment to create more hatred and more divisiveness amongst blacks and whites in the United States.
That The mainstream media will continue to fuel.
Yes.
Well, actually, it was a few days before I was having a conversation with Andrew, and I said to him, they are trying to destroy our traditions.
They are trying to destroy our holidays.
Don't be surprised if they try to ruin our Christmas, if not our Thanksgiving.
And speaking of Thanksgiving, the JFK assassination ruined Thanksgiving 1963.
It was the saddest and worst Thanksgiving that I have ever experienced.
And it is part of this psychological plan to disrupt our culture, our traditions, our religion, and subvert our nation to communism.
Back to Andrew, do you want to tell us a little bit more on the The situation at the Air Force Base and the explosions there.
Yeah, that I haven't looked into.
Am I?
Yeah, I guess right.
Well, I know there was some 10 people at the Comox Air Force Base there.
OK, basically there was an explosion.
Well, three explosions because of an ear witness, someone who was parked across the street from the base.
I believe this was on Wednesday, it was two weeks, last Wednesday, it was two weeks, or two days after the great, very strange weather bomb scenario we had happened here in BC, which of course continues to unfurl all kinds of things.
Our province has now stated, or has now declared another state of emergency, and they're restricting gas consumption now, and they're saying that you can only get 30 litres of gas When you go fill up, etc., because, you know, the pipelines have stopped right now and the land travel has been hampered because of all these highways out of British Columbia were just, you know, mysteriously cut off from all these major landslides that happened just in the perfect spots for them to be cut off.
Now, in terms of the Comox thing, I haven't found any follow-up things about that yet, but two days after that event, this weather event which flooded Big municipalities, farmlands, vast numbers of poultry farms were drowned, the chickens died, cattle were being pulled out by boats, ranch land in an area called Merritt, BC, basically the heartland of British Columbia, where we have ranches and forestry and mining all shut down.
Brand new gold mines in British Columbia that show incredible potential are suddenly Not able to function.
Very interesting.
Very, very interesting.
I'd like to say a couple of things.
In recent days... Jim, we're going to talk a little bit about the Manchurian candidate when we get back to the subject, but I am adamant that the Manchurian candidate is sitting in residence in the White House.
He's doing everything in his power to destroy the United States from within.
I didn't tell Jim, but the other name for the series of programs that we've been doing for the last few months is The Enemy Within, which takes its name from Robert F. Kennedy's book.
And for that reason, I don't call the resident in the White House Joe Biden.
I call him Joe Biden, because he is in the back hip pocket of the Red Chinese.
He's coming out every day.
The staggering amount of money that has been funneled to Joe Biden through his son, Hunter Biden.
The worst thing that I could imagine is to subvert our military in more ways than forcing a toxic, poisonous injection into all our troops.
But I got word yesterday that Joe Biden has sold 1.6 billion barrels of oil from the National Petroleum Reserve to the Red Chinese.
Folks, The National Petroleum Reserve is there to ensure that the United States is capable of waging war without a dependence on foreign oil.
And he has just sold 1.6 billion barrels of oil to the Chinese.
Let me go back to Professor Fetzer.
I just want to pick up on your observations here, Robert.
Yes, yes, yes.
Selling off from the Strategic Reserve after he shut down the XL Pipeline.
He's contemplating cutting off the Pipeline 5 from Quebec down to, or Ontario down to Michigan.
That's going to leave the Midwest.
Energy deficient, freeze through the winter, the price of gasoline is soaring.
I would take exception.
The guy in the White House isn't actually the senator from Delaware.
This is a sock puppet.
I noticed this when he participated in the debate with Trump, that it wasn't the same guy.
The shape of the skull was wrong.
The eyes were the wrong color.
His ears aren't right.
It's been confirmed by a pharmacist used to comparing signatures when people obtain drugs.
The signature of this guy who's calling himself Joe Biden is not the same as the signature of the guy who was a senator from Delaware who ran for the presidency three times.
And until South Carolina hadn't won a single primary or a single caucus, we're being played.
In fact, we know they have a set at the Eisenhower office building for the Oval Office where there's an auditorium.
So you have reporters watch there, see the president on this set, which is totally phony, but they're not reporting it to the American people.
When Biden took his so-called booster shot, it was an arm that was real hairy.
Joe, the body double's arm is not hairy.
It wasn't even the body double's arm.
I'm telling you, I've done my homework on this.
I have several blogs about it, and they're not the same guy.
We've discussed this many times on the program.
I'm curious, Jim, what's your feedback on the lights out situation at the White House every night?
My impressions are not actually in the White House.
There's so many oddities here.
I mean, even the inauguration was pre-recorded.
I was noticing at the time that it was occurring too early because it had to occur at noon.
But 10 minutes of noon, he was already being sworn in.
There were several oddities.
You had a woman in vivid colors and jackets that were in two different locations when she never switched.
Jill's shoes changed from blue to brown to blue.
I mean, the whole thing was a farce.
So they steal the election with a grand theft 2020 election.
Then they have a phony inauguration, which I believe can't even be legitimate.
I have a friend, by the way, is sending me copies of Chopper 1.
And when you do a close up, the guy who's being saluted is not.
This Biden sock puppet, it's Donald Trump, raising all kinds of questions about what the hell really is going on here.
I only wish Trump were actually managing things, in which case we might possibly get a positive outcome, because as Robert is correctly describing, these people with the open borders and the supply problems, And the vaccine, which is deadly by the way, that's a lethal weapon, are destroying the nation.
And there could not be a more telling indication than selling off the reserves from the National Petroleum for our national security to China.
That is as bad as it gets.
And you had, in addition, you got Governor Newsom draining the two largest reservoirs in California, which had been at an historic high, sufficient to endure a five-year drought.
But they're planning to wipe us out by starvation.
Do some drain those two reservoirs.
So now they're at historic lows.
He just let the water flow out into the Pacific Ocean because they're trying to dry up agriculture in California or California, just as Ukraine has been the bedbasket for Russia.
And Zbigniew Brzezinski in his book The Grand Chessboard suggested if you could pry off Ukraine from Russia, it would greatly weaken the bear.
They want to destroy the agricultural productivity because California is a breadbasket for the United States.
So we're going through a three-stage process of decimating the American population.
First is masks, which kill us slowly.
They're incapable of filtering any virus.
It's like trying to stop a ping pong ball with a filter the size of a hula hoop.
You can't do it.
You're recycling oxygen, depleted air, kills brain cells, which unlike skin cells don't grow back, putting strains on your cardiovascular system.
Then they got the Vax, which is inducing myocarditis, a form of a heart attack.
We have athletes in the prime of their life dropping dead on the athletic field from these vaccines.
So they're killing us faster, but ultimately to bring about the final solution.
It's going to be mass starvation.
They're taking all kinds of measures to diminish the food supply, including paying farmers to plow under their crops under the threat that if they don't do it, for which they will be paid, they're going to spread Agent Orange and they'll be unable to grow anything for 30 or 100 years.
I mean, that's what's going on around us today as we speak.
Jim, let me ask you a question.
I've been tracking I've been tracking the developments of the U.S.
Navy, possibly having ties to supporting Governor DeSantis' career.
Governor DeSantis just has a stellar career for liberty, and I've always been puzzled by how can a man get to be governor of a big state of Florida and be so for pro-liberty and pro-the American people?
And it seems like he has protection.
This idea gives me the chills and a lot of hope that Governor DeSantis was a part of JAG, and it's kind of like a wet dream of mine that the U.S.
Navy is making a stand here with Governor DeSantis, fighting the cabal that's trying to do this to America, and maybe, just maybe, they have a plan to restore Donald Trump to Speaker of the House.
And then take out Biden and Harris and restore the results of the 2020 election and put America back on track within a year.
What's your feedback on that?
That's a fascinating conjecture.
I do believe the Navy has been seeking to uphold the Constitution and that the Navy was a supporter of Trump.
I can't see how he could become Speaker unless he were a member of the House, and that's not going to happen.
But I could see him more likely simply that the fake election being nullified and him being restored to his presidency.
Which he ought to have had, had the count been honest.
You know, Sidney Powell put out an electoral map the night of the election, and before they messed with the numbers, Donald Trump had read to read from coast to coast, he took California, Minnesota, I was predicting both of those, 480 electoral votes for Trump before they revised it all using Dominion voting machines and all that.
Robert has some important information for you on the Speaker of the House position.
Jim, I made the same statement that Trump couldn't become Speaker of the House without being a member of Congress, and I was corrected by one of my friends that there's nothing in the Constitution that precludes any citizen from being chosen to be Speaker of the House.
You don't have to be a member of the Congress.
I'd like to turn back to the JFK assassination.
Well, Robert, let me just comment on that. I mean, that's fascinating.
You know, my greatest fear is you get rid of Biden and Harris too.
I mean, she's an airhead. She's worthless, completely worthless.
We've never known an administration to be so despised.
Biden's already at 38, Harris at 28.
They'd like to get rid of both and move Pelosi up.
That would be great.
No, no, no, no, no.
Jim, let me say this. I've been telling people the Democrat Party eats its own.
They are in hell right now in the polls.
They have to get rid of Biden, but nobody will get rid of Biden to put Kamala Harris in the White House.
They're going to do it.
And I said to people, watch this.
The signal will be when they go after Kamala Harris, because they will have to get rid of Kamala Harris.
And install a stooge vice president, exactly as was done with Richard Nixon.
They wanted to get rid of Nixon, but they would never have gotten rid of him to put Spiro Agnew in the White House.
So they disposed of Spiro Agnew by impeachment and then appointed Gerald Ford, Warren Commissioner, former Congressman from Michigan to be the vice president and gatekeeper for the JFK assassination information.
I would like to remind you, Jim, did you see the Electoral College vote when it came to Michigan?
I was shocked.
I was appalled.
I was watching each state present the electoral votes, the Electoral College.
And when it came to Michigan, the television came on and I saw Ayatollah Khomeini addressing Governor Whitmer And her coterie of Democrat flunkies and the BLM contingent where they had just thrown out an African-American woman who had walked in with an American flag.
They threw her out and on the screen was Ayatollah Khomeini giving his blessing to the Michigan Electoral College delegates voting.
Look, you got me there.
I don't know.
I have been to Iran.
I've been interviewed by Press TV probably a hundred times.
I've published articles in Iranian journals and papers.
I have a very high opinion of Iran.
It's the greatest peace-loving nation on earth.
Iran has not launched a war of aggression against any other state since 1775.
Just to bring that home, the ratification of the Constitution began in 1787.
We elected our first president in 1789.
So for longer than the United States has existed as a constitutional republic, Iran has not launched a war of aggression against any state.
Would that could be said of the United States?
My God.
So the demonization of Iran has absolutely no basis, no foundation.
I also take exception of any demonization of Islam.
Islam is one of the three great Abrahamic religions, which deserves respect in my judgment.
As one of the world's great religions, so if you want to look at a terrorist state, those are the United States and Israel.
Israel, which is a foremost practitioner of terrorism in the world.
Yes, they're all birds of a feather.
And Iran does conduct war, but it always does it sub rosa, does it covertly through organizations like Hezbollah.
But right now, I would like to get back to the JFK assassination.
I think this is a great discussion we've had because it shows you how far off the right track of history we have gone.
However, I would like to turn to the Manchurian candidate.
And I'd like to tell Jim something, an insight that I had.
From the first time that I saw The Manchurian Candidate in the theaters, I was bothered by one flaw in the movie.
And that flaw, as I saw it, was that the actor playing Raymond Shaw was not American.
They got an English actor to play an American Marine.
And I said, you know, there must be hundreds of ex-Marines in Hollywood that they could have cast as a U.S.
Marine, but they chose an English actor.
I went to see it again, and the same thing struck me.
And that, every time I saw it, it went on for years.
But in 1996, I decided to review the four greatest assassination movies of all time.
And they are, of course, The Manchurian Candidate, which has Frank Sinatra in it, the movie Suddenly, which also has Frank Sinatra in it, The Jackal, and Behold the Pale Horse.
And so I decided to review them because we know now that there's something called predictive programming.
So I started watching them and then when the Manchurian Candidate came on and the credits started to roll, I had an epiphany.
I got the answer.
The Manchurian Candidate came out in 1962-63 and it was a massage.
She prepared the American public When I saw the names of the stars, Frank Sinatra, James Gregory, Angela Lansbury, and introducing Lawrence Harvey as Raymond Shaw.
Jim, I kind of had a hallucination.
I saw his name, and the L got really big.
The A and the U were small, the R was small, then the E was really big.
And then the N and the C were really small.
And the last E in Lawrence was really big.
And I saw Lee Harvey.
Lawrence Harvey's name has the name of Lee Harvey embedded in it.
And that was presented to the American people in the year preceding the JFK assassination.
And I realized that this was another part of the MK Ultra Mind Massage that prepared the American people for that day when he was arrested.
And as you said, they had nailed him, tagged him as Fletcher Prouty was in New Zealand coming back from Antarctica.
And he realized he saw his picture, his bio, everything within hours.
So he had been set up as the Patsy for a very, very long time.
The other thing is the Oswald double and the prospect that the Oswald that was killed before our eyes was not the original Lee Oswald that went to Russia.
It is possible that the Russians killed the real Lee Oswald and substituted a double that was sent here in his place.
And Robert Oswald, Robert Lee Oswald, in his biography of Lee, says that when he went to the airport, He couldn't, he couldn't recognize his own brother.
He said, you know, my brother was a six foot one strapping, bull-necked marine with wavy hair.
This guy, he was barely five foot ten and he was wearing three inch cowboy boots.
He was scrawny and he had kinky, kinky receding hair.
And then Oswald, that Oswald, the one that came back, Made a faux pas at the dinner table at Thanksgiving 1960 when he came back.
And so one thing that people don't realize is that Marguerite Oswald had had a previous marriage and had a son named John Pick.
And then she married Robert Lee Oswald, who sired Robert Lee Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald.
But they never spoke about that in the family.
They never mentioned that John was not Robert's son.
So, Oswald at the table is introducing Marina Prusakova, who was the niece of a high-ranking MKVD colonel.
And he said to her, this is my brother Robert, this is my half-brother John.
And the family was utterly shocked.
That he would voice that.
So, there are still mysteries to be resolved.
The man that was killed as Lee Oswald, or Lee Harvey Oswald, may not have been the man we think he was.
On top of it all.
I'm open-minded about that.
You'll be fascinated to know, I think, that Ralph Sienke has discovered That the shooting where we thought it was Jack Ruby killing Lee in the basement of the Dallas Police Department was actually an imposter.
Ruby was in a separate room.
They'd taken his clothing and put it on an FBI agent by the name of James Bookout.
It's wonderful how he's been able to analyze it based upon the way the hair was cut and other features.
It's absolutely fascinating.
So something where we all thought we saw it before our very eyes was actually a stage performance involving an FBI agent impersonating Jack Ruby in shooting Lee.
I do believe Lee did die.
I mean, Charles Crenshaw, who was a contributor to Assassination Science, was the last physician to view the body of JFK.
He actually closed his eyes when they wrapped him in sheets and put him into the bronze ceremonial casket.
And then two days later, Was responsible for the care and treatment of Lee Oswald.
It was he who got a phone call from Lyndon Johnson himself telling him he wanted a deathbed confession.
Charles explained to LBJ that actually Lee seemed to be getting better and he thought he was going to survive.
But Johnson said there'd be a man there in a coat who was going to take the deathbed confession when he got back there.
It appears to have been David Sanchez Morales waiting Lee took a turn for the worse and died, so they didn't get their deathbed confession, but there are fascinating aspects to all of this, I agree, of which the American people are almost, if not completely, oblivious.
Yes, Jim, you see, we've struck upon a theme, a recurrent theme, in this assassination, which is the use of doppelgangers.
The use of doubles.
Not only was Lee Harvey Oswald purportedly defected to the Soviet Union.
However, while he was there, someone named Lee Harvey Oswald was renting trucks to transship weapons from Texas to Florida to supply them to the Operation 40 and the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
And here's another thing.
You know that the treasure trove that President Trump released in 2017?
I jumped into that and guess what I found?
They tried to depict Oswald as the single member of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
And our friend Roy Schaffer, inform me that there was a Fair Play for Cuba committee in Ohio and then I started looking through the files and it turns out that the Fair Play for Cuba committee had chapters in Dallas, in New Orleans, in Miami, in New Jersey, in Ohio.
It was a wide-ranging organization and the reason that President Kennedy sicked The FBI on the CIA was because they had gone rogue after we had had the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Returning to the subject of the Space War and the Missile Crisis, he made a deal with Khrushchev not to continue the guerrilla attacks on Cuba.
The CIA was sending in covert operations To kill policemen, to kill political figures, to burn sugar cane plantations.
And it turns out that as late as April of 1963, they were still conducting these operations and actually blew up the Hess oil refinery near Havana.
And President Kennedy felt that We were at risk as a result of these actions, unilateral actions of the CIA against Cuba, that it was making him look like a liar and a cheat to Nikita Khrushchev and might open up another missile crisis.
So that's why he ordered the CIA to rein in this rogue operation, Operation 40 and the Alpha 77.
And the anti-Castro Cubans who were operating from no name key and Miami,
and were conducting attacks on Cuba with what we might call PT boats without torpedoes.
From Zapata oil platforms off the coast of Cuba.
I knew an Army officer, Bradley Ayers, who was actually assigned to the CIA for those ops down there in Florida and wrote a book about it, The Xena's Secret.
They gave the name to the headquarters there.
He met a lot of major players in all of this.
Let me add a couple other comments.
You mentioned Roy Schaefer.
I think he's a tremendously unappreciated guy who's just been a genius in doing research on the assassination.
He made any number of invaluable points to me early on when I was still getting my feet wet in relation to serious research.
And deserves high praise on many counts.
Let me further add, you mentioned the documents that Trump managed to get out, where others were withheld on grounds of national security.
Bear in mind, if the official account of a lone demented gunman firing three lucky shots from the Texas Book Depository were true, there's no national security aspect to the case.
So withholding documents on the grounds of national security means what we've been told is complete nonsense, as we all know it is.
But where Larry Rivera poured through those documents, which, as you know, were not released digitally so they could be searched, you have to go through each of them hand by hand, and he reconstructed How they fabricated the Oswald visit to Mexico City, that it was a total sham.
Lee was never there.
I frequently observed that Jay Edgar put out a memorandum to all of his station chiefs that someone was in Mexico City impersonating Lee Harvey Oswald, to which I've added that if that were all you knew about the assassination, you'd know it was a conspiracy and a cover-up.
But let me add, Three of the CIA assets in that operation in Mexico were successive presidents of Mexico.
That's how high their control goes.
Yes, yes indeed.
Jim, remember that the CIA hid a photograph.
They said they had taken a photograph of Oswald coming out of the embassy, but they refused to release it until the House Select Committee on Assassinations got it.
And it's not Oswald.
The guy looks like a Russian.
He actually looks to me like Jack Ruby with his hair dyed.
And Jack Ruby, interesting, you mentioned Israel.
Let's not leave them out of the equation.
Because few countries had a greater hatred for John F. Kennedy than Israel.
Because Kennedy forced the resignation of David Ben-Gurion.
As the first Prime Minister of Israel, because he demanded that they stop their atomic bomb development project at the Dimona nuclear facility.
And the person who was in charge of the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission at that time was Shimon Peres.
Shimon Peres was involved in the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin.
By the way, Yitzhak is also Jack.
And it turns out that I saw Leila Rabin on television and she made a point.
She said, I want you to know something.
I want you to know something.
Simon Peres was in Dallas on November 22nd, 1963.
Then we have the story about Ruby going around on Friday with two foreign reporters and acting as a translator.
And the only two languages other than English that Jack Ruby spoke were Russian and Hebrew.
And I believe that Shimon Peres was one of the overseers of this operation.
So the killing of President Kennedy brought together three factions that hated him utterly.
The Deep State, the CIA, he told the CIA he was going to break them up into a thousand pieces and scatter the pieces to the four winds.
He, the Mafia, he made a deal with the Mafia to steal the 1960 election.
He actually did in Chicago.
The mafia stole election machines in Republican districts, drove them to the Chicago River and dumped them in.
And the third element was the Maasai.
I have heard from John Lear that the last command that Ben-Gurion gave as he left the prime ministry, ushered out by Kennedy telling him If you don't allow inspections at Dimona and stop your nuclear weapons program, I will cut off foreign aid to Israel.
And that forced him to resign.
But John Lear says that the last command that Ben-Gurion gave was kill John F. Kennedy.
Well, to participate in the assassination, but by my account, it originated in Los Angeles in 1960, when JFK beat LBJ for the Democratic nomination.
He invited Stuart Symington to be his running mate, but gave him overnight to think about it.
Bobby went by the Johnson suite.
To make a pro forma gesture, never expecting the majority leader would have the least interest, and he jumped on it.
He insisted if he weren't on the ticket, he'd expose that JFK suffered from Addison's disease and wasn't expected to live a long, healthy life.
That among his dalliances was a beautiful woman who was a spy for East Germany, which he'd learned from J. Edgar.
And that if he were not on the ticket, then any legislative proposal set down by the White House would be dead on arrival, because as a powerful majority leader, he'd bottle them up.
Jack and Bobby tried to figure a way out, but Lyndon had them boxed in.
One of Lyndon's wealthy supporters learned he'd be on the ticket with Jackie, burst into the Johnson suite cursing and swearing because now LBJ would help JFK to become president.
Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind.
He came out smiling, saying he thought that was an excellent plan.
Bobby Baker would later declare publicly that Jack would not live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
In the course of events, Lyndon would send his chief administrative assistant, Cliff Carter, down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
Yes.
So while Israel did come in, that was much later.
LBJ already had the plan in place and brought together various of the elements.
You mentioned the CIA, the Secret Service, the Texas oilmen, of course, who were strong supporters of Lyndon, the anti-Castro Cubans who thought Jack had betrayed them at the Bay of Pigs.
And then the Fed, the eastern establishment, was upset because Jack had instructed the Treasury to print hundreds of billions, even billions, of United States notes on the ground that it was absurd to pay a consortium
of private banks interest for printing the currency of the United States.
I remember as a young Marine Corps officer having one of these in my hand with a red
embossed imprint saying United States note rather than the green Federal Reserve note.
And as you well know, the overwhelming national debt is interest on printing the currency
of the United States.
What an absurd situation.
We have each of the sponsors putting up their own hit man.
So we got we got a Dallas deputy sheriff on the top of the county records, Willie Harry Weatherford, implanting a man liquor pot prono using a 30-06.
and a Sabota plastic collar. We got an Air Force expert inside the triple underpass,
Jack Lawrence, firing a new weapon that I believe he got from Curtis LeMay to know that he was
acting on behalf of the United States. We had Frank Sturgis, who may have been the best shot
in the world at the time, on behalf of the CIA, firing from the intersection of the picket fence
On behalf of the CIA, firing from the intersection of the Pickett Fence and the Triple Underpass,
and the triple underpass. We had Tony Nester Escadro inside the Daltex, where he appears
we had Tony Nestor-Escadro inside the Daltex, where he appears to have been supervised by
to have been supervised by George Herbert Walker Bush, firing three shots with a Mannlicher Carcano,
George Herbert Walker Bush, firing three shots with a Mannlicher Carcano, the only unsilenced
shots to create the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired.
We got Roscoe White on the grassy knoll taking a pistol shot, but because it would have hit
Jackie, he pulled the shot and it wound up in the grass where a Dallas detective picked
it up.
We had Malcolm Mack Wallace, Lyndon's personal hitman, in the Daltex firing at John Connally
in the mistaken belief it was Ralph Yarborough, where Jack and Lyndon had a huge argument
that morning, Lyndon trying to get him out, Jack overriding him on the ground that the
chief executive of the state should ride with the chief executive of the United States,
but it was too late to get the word out to the shooters.
So that you find Connolly with a rather grim visage as he's about to go in the motorcade, but it had the Effective obfuscating the politics, because no one would believe that Lyndon would have ever put his crony and colleague in crime, John Connolly, in harm's way.
But that's how it played out.
I agree that Angleton was working for Israel and was a double agent.
I agree with that, Robert.
I think that's correct.
I appreciate Michael Collins Piper's book, A Final Judgment, but this was not basically a Mossad op.
This was basically all the way with LBJ.
Yes.
Yes, indeed.
Also, the Bundys.
Let's talk about the memo.
Traitors!
Traitors!
Shaft was undermining him.
You're 100% correct.
John F. Kennedy was going to extract us from Vietnam.
He had issued a national security memorandum calling for the withdrawal of 1,000 American troops by Christmas and the withdrawal of the rest of our troops in 1964.
I remember seeing him with Walter Cronkite saying in the final analysis it is their war to win or to lose.
He had been told by General MacArthur Don't get involved in a land war in Asia unless you plan to use nuclear weapons.
And that left John F. Kennedy deathly pale.
So, these are all the reasons, including the issue of cooperation with the Soviet Union, with Nikita Khrushchev, in joint ventures into outer space, a joint venture Moon mission with the Russians, and to share The most classified information on UFOs with the Russians because UFOs had been invading our airspace and causing us to believe that the Russians were attacking us with nuclear missiles.
Then they would stop right over Canada and just disappear into outer space.
The same thing was happening to Russia.
The UFO entity One of the UFO entities wanted to lure the United States and Russia into a nuclear war by miscalculation and President Kennedy sensed that and he called for the total review of all UFO files and to put them on his desk for February 1964 because he was going to tell the American people the truth about UFOs, about the Roswell crash.
An army memorandum called the Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit Report, which was the recovery team at Roswell, cites John F. Kennedy, Congressman of Massachusetts, having received the information three days after the Roswell UFO crash and put him on a watch list.
They looked upon him with suspicion because a staff member of the Secretary of the Air Force, who was None other than Stuart Symington in 1947 had briefed him on a flight between Boston and Washington.
And I'm very grateful to the engineer for holding off the music.
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Jim, thank you for being here.
Andrew, Raymond, Peter, thank you for this historic broadcast and I am open to having you return in the very near future, if not next
week, to continue this amazing conversation that will put America
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