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Nov. 1, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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Dr. Andrew Kaufman - Graphene-oxide in 'Vaccines' and Depopulation Agendas
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Let's just go to our guest, Dr. Andrew Kaufman.
He is a healing consultant.
Many of you know him.
You're already saying in the comments here, we love Dr. Kaufman, and so we really do.
He's paid a very high price to be here.
We'll talk to him about that.
He is a healing consultant, inventor, public speaker, and a forensic psychiatrist.
And I could Really use your help.
He is an expert witness due to his vast knowledge.
He has been spreading, spending the last few years, sorry, asking the hard questions and getting to the true facts.
We absolutely love him.
We thank him for his sacrifice, for what he's doing right now in Canada.
And if you do not follow Dr. Andrew Kaufman, I know that you'll be following him by the end of this show.
So welcome to the show.
Thanks for being with us.
Well thank you so much, it's really a pleasure to be here.
So do you think that we've all lost it?
You're a forensic psychiatrist and you probably understand an awful lot about doctor stuff and the human anatomy and psychology.
It just seems that everything is upside down right now.
That 1984 has kind of come to our doorstep and it's no longer a fiction.
It was actually a prophetic word about what 2021 might look like.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
I agree with you and there, you know, I view this entire pandemic situation as a psychological operation because in generating the vast amount of fear that has come about from these mainstream media sources that are giving the false information as you eloquently pointed out earlier.
When people are in this state of fear and panic, they are much, much more easily conditioned to change their behavior and follow instructions from authority.
I mean, you know that we've all, in school, when we were very young, do you remember having all those fire drills?
Well, what did they do, right?
You had the authority figure bossing everyone around and you had to, you know, really be completely quiet.
You had to stay in single file.
You had to follow every direction exactly perfectly, right?
And this was done under the situation that the building is on fire, right?
Which creates fear.
So this is essentially what has happened to most people that they were put in this fear situation and then orders came down from these authority figures and people just went along with it and this was so well played out. They even had, you know, in many countries, and
this has been leaked by people who actually worked in this position, that they hired
professional psychologists to come up with strategies. How do we maximize the response of fear in the
public, for example? And in addition to using this to condition people, they also use this to
instill false beliefs about what's going on. And in psychiatry, we would call these delusions. And
the definition of a delusion is a fixed false belief.
So, for example, the delusion that there is some dangerous new illness that you have to change your whole life and give up all your freedom in order to overcome is not based on reality or scientific information, but it is a propaganda narrative that was put forth in the context of this fear.
And there have been many, many different narratives that have come about since that time.
But essentially that's kind of the psychological position that most people are in.
Right, and before we head over to odyssey.com to talk about lots of good stuff with you, all of the investigative reporting that you've been doing, your journey, could you tell the audience a little bit?
We're looking at people like Dr. McCullough, Dr. Hoff here in British Columbia, Dr. Hodkinson in Alberta, Dr. Patrick Phillips in Ontario.
These are people that are standing up, speaking out and end up sort of having to pay quite a price
for it.
What has it been like for you as you have sort of been awakened and looking at what's
happening and spoken out?
What's happened?
Well, you know, I'm fortunate in many, many ways, but I had been really learning through
my own observation of what happens with my patients and of reading the medical literature
that at least, especially in psychiatry, that really the profession is bankrupt.
It just gives all these miserable people these toxic drugs that never really make a positive difference in people's life, you know, with rare exceptions, of course.
And so when this pandemic came about and I started researching what's really going on and realizing that what the media and the governments are telling people is not actually true, you know, I began speaking out.
And of course, I knew I was putting myself at risk and I knew that my employer was not very happy with my public speaking.
And And there was, you know, basically a line in the sand that was drawn when I was, you know, told that I had to wear a mask to be with a patient.
And I knew that, first of all, I couldn't even do psychiatry from behind a mask, of course, but also that there was actually no justification whatsoever for this masking policy, and as a result of that decision, I was fired.
And I want to tell the audience out there that we're all really facing this kind of a situation that if we don't make a decision that we are going to stand up and we are going to say no to these coercive practices trying to force us to take experimental tests and experimental treatments that are dangerous to our health, that there is a risk involved.
We have to be willing right now to walk away from the job or from the school or the opportunity or the sporting event or whatever it is because one is that if you don't walk away and say no now, there won't be a future opportunity.
But I want to give you a message of hope because if you do this decision and you do it for the right reason because other people have no right to tell you what to do with your
body and your health, for example, or because you realize that it's preposterous to risk
dangerous medical procedures when there's actually not even any increase in death or sickness in
people, that you are going to be rewarded, like that it is going to work out well because
when you do something for the right reason, for a just reason, there is something about the universe
and God that come together and lay out a new path for you.
And that path is often much, much better because it's now based on truth and justice and all of the things that were supposed to be.
working toward as we develop as individuals and as members of a society.
And that's exactly what happened to me.
One day I am fired, embarrassed.
First time I've ever been fired from a job in my life, but it was because I stuck up for what I believed was right
at the time.
And everyone came to my aid offering advice, encouragement.
And, you know, within about two to three weeks, I had already now established a brand new natural healing consultation practice.
And I was able to, you know, continue to feed my children and pay my mortgage and, you know, live a reasonable life.
And that's the way it can work out for all of us if we're willing to have the courage to take a stand.
Wow, and it really is about courage.
And before we leave, Facebook to go to odyssey.com.
And if I could tell everybody that has a problem finding us, it's odyssey.com backslash at Laura Lynn TT.
You have a conference coming up, truehealingconference.com.
And I just want to give you an opportunity to plug that before we move on.
Oh, thank you so much.
Yeah, Dr. Tom Cowan and I got together and we decided we want to put on a conference to teach people about what we would call the true new biology and the true biology related to healing so that we can talk about real solid science and areas that the mainstream ignores like water research and structured and easy water, incredible stuff, live blood analysis, orgone energy.
And we've got some very serious people coming to give great talks.
So we're really, really looking forward.
It's going to be October 9th and 10th in Jacksonville, Florida, right near the beach.
So please go to TrueHealingConference.com and check it out.
That is wonderful and just to let all of you know if at any point on any of our platforms you don't see this show here and you're looking for where did Laurelyn go, where in the world is Laurelyn, go to laurelyn.tv you'll be able to find us there and thank you for all of you who do support this program and support us, help us to make it happen.
You know all of us who fight this In this battle right now are basically looking for that way that Dr. Kaufman is talking about, wherein we've got to help each other and support one another.
And I did see a comment, somebody saying, well, you know, I'm glad you guys basically feel that you can do it, but it'd be hard for everyone to leave their job and just find a way.
But I think what you're saying is that if you feel the calling of courage, and that you need to stand.
You must not let fear stop you because there will be a way
that will be found in your life.
And for me, I was terrified.
And when I lost my national job three years ago due to standing up for other things,
that was terrifying for me.
And yet, as I went, one door opening at a time, one step, one courageous step forward.
I was thrown in the deep end, as were you, Dr. Kaufman, but I think you're telling everyone that there is a path of courage and we're all beginning to look at that.
What does it look like?
You know, for some people right now, it's actually getting out of Canada.
You know, I have people contacting me saying, all right, we're out of here, just like Einstein left Germany before it all went bad.
We're leaving.
And, you know, hopefully there's people that can find a way to be here to support Canada and to, you know, to find a way forward.
But sometimes it does take that bit of courage.
Yeah, you know, I just want to add that, you know, yes, it will be hard, and we're already facing hardship.
Because of this situation.
Right?
Separation from people.
Isolation from people.
Unreasonable expectations.
The whole society is changing.
Our freedoms are being taken away.
People are getting arrested that never have before.
And it is hard.
And it is hard to make these decisions.
And it's going to be difficult.
But I want to tell you that you actually can handle it.
You can get through it.
And if you're making it for the right reasons, you will be rewarded in the appropriate way. If you don't
make this decision, and you don't muster up the courage, it's going to be much, much worse. Like let's say that you
give in and get one of these injections and then you end up with your face paralyzed, half of your face paralyzed. How
is life going to be then for you?
Is that going to be easier?
What about when they mandate not just vaccine passports on your phone, but what if when it includes a social credit score, when it includes your financial information, when it includes your carbon usage, and then you're prohibited from your job or your transportation unless you behave exactly how you're told?
That's going to be much harder.
So what I'm saying is that it's not easy.
It's not easy to just be in existence right now.
But if we don't make a stand and say no to this tyranny, there's going to be more and more of it.
And it'll be more and more difficult to say no.
Absolutely.
That is so good.
And we are going to continue this conversation with some incredible information for you.
What you need to know.
It's at audacy.com.
Put this in.
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That should get you right there.
Backslash.
We don't have enough room.
Let me Let me see if I can get this off.
Oh, there we go.
Yeah.
So if you do the backslash, you get to at Laurel and TV.
So we're going to do a swish right now, say goodbye to you on Facebook, but hey, follow us over or D live or Twitch, um, which, uh, and Periscope, uh, lots of places, but find your place.
Odyssey is really easy.
It's a, it's a great platform.
So we'll see you right there.
Let's do the swish.
I love that part, Dr. Kaufman.
Yep, that is just my favorite when we do that.
Can you believe we just transported to the other side of the world?
Yeah, exactly, right?
In fairness, we don't necessarily know if graphene is in, I mean, the jury's out about if graphene is really, you know, an element that is in the vaccines.
I think there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence that graphene is in the vaccines.
And we know from prior studies about vaccines before the COVID era, that there were Regularly undisclosed ingredients in vaccines, right?
There was genetic material from an aborted fetus cell culture line.
There are nanometallic particles found by Dr. Gaudi and Molinari in Italy a few years ago in all the European vaccines.
So, it's not really unprecedented to surmise that there are undisclosed ingredients in the vaccine.
And of course, we have, you know, patents For a coronavirus vaccine with graphene oxide, we have an intranasal flu vaccine that contained graphene oxide, and we have lots of scientific publications using graphene in combination with other nanomaterials, including gene delivery devices.
That's one of the main applications, and that is the exact technology that we have in our experimental vaccines.
So while we don't have conclusive evidence, Although we do have some microscopic evidence from Spain, the University of Almeria, that suggests graphene.
I don't believe that that's the conclusive way to identify graphene.
But we do know that it has been in some other products during this pandemic era.
And I'm specifically talking about masks.
And in fact, and I think I sent a slide that in Canada, there was a recall for masks that contained graphene oxide.
And you know, this was also reported in other locations in the world.
And so it's quite possible that this was far more extensive than we thought.
Wow, that is so scary.
Absolutely.
Because you know...
Graphene is a very interesting substance.
It was only discovered, you know, around the early 2000s and it was awarded a Nobel Prize for its discovery because it has many unique properties, mostly electrical and magnetic properties, but also mechanical.
What it is is it's a essentially a shing single Atom sheet of graphite, which is you know what's in pencils?
We're familiar with it. It's another form of carbon. Just like diamonds are as well and
When it's used for biological or biomedical applications It's in the oxidized form where on the edges if you if you
think about it like a blanket At the edges of the blanket where you'd have you know a
seam There are little oxygenated side chains like alcohol
hydroxyl groups or carboxylic acid groups, and that's what differentiates it from regular graphene and
And...
This of course was funded in this huge European project called the Graphene Flagship with a billion with a B euros was devoted to this research and there are over a thousand articles in the scientific literature and that one you just showed there is the probably the best article that talks about the toxicity because if you see in the title it uses those words in vivo that means in an actual living organism.
So, rather than just mixing it with cells in a culture or something like that, they put graphene in real organisms to see what happens.
And in mice, what they saw was that blood clots in the lung, right?
They saw scarring and other lung symptoms like pneumonia, sounding familiar.
They, under the microscope, they saw that it caused a blackening of the cell membranes.
So that's quite a distinct finding.
But since autopsies were prevented during this pandemic, we don't know if there are
any lung biopsies that might demonstrate that, that we could see people succumb to graphene
toxicity.
And in the mice that were in one of the experiments, when they gave them higher doses, a significant
portion of the mice actually died.
And the last significant thing I want to say about the danger of this substance when it's
used internally, either breathed in or ingested, like it's in your food or you swallow it in
some way, or if it's injected, that's obviously the most dangerous way because it bypasses
all your body's protective barriers that keeps things out of your internal.
environment, but it tends to remain and actually accumulate in tissues.
And it may be partially related to what you showed me before, that it can have some jagged
edges that can sort of stick into things and stay there, like the road tax that they would
put down to stop a car in a police pursuit.
So over time, your body doesn't have a mechanism to detox or get rid of it.
Wow!
So this can of course cause more of a chronic toxicity over time.
Wow.
And so this is not something that we want in our bodies.
This is definitely not.
Right!
This is definitely like the worst idea of all time and and then I'm understanding I think that you alluded to it that basically that also this has electro like it's a good conductor for electricity I think and it's pliable and it's sort of an amazing conductor in that way.
So it's actually even more special than that because this material changes its electro and magnetic properties when it is, for example, pressurized, or when it's heated, or when it's placed inside of an external magnetic field.
And it's capable of exhibiting certain properties known as superparamagnetism,
which means that it can become magnetic and then not be magnetic.
Like imagine if, you know, your iron horseshoe magnet could be...
the magnetic aspect of it could just be turned on and off.
Right?
That makes it very useful for electronic applications.
And there are even some conditions that it can be a superconductor.
And what that is, is like it conducts electricity, but without any resistance.
So you can send electrical signals at very, very high speeds and do like big number crunching
applications like the first Watson computer from IBM that beat Kasparov in chess.
It had superconducting components.
So this is basically an advanced technological nanomaterial that can be used, and all the
literature describes the intention to use it in biomedical applications for essentially
the purpose of nanodiagnostics.
So you could have a tiny thing circulating around your blood taking samples and telling you if you have a disease.
for drug delivery, right, it can actually carry around and a
little drugs, and then of course, gene delivery. But also it is looked at in applications where it can communicate
with essentially a cloud network from your body like be an
interface between your brain like your thoughts would get translated
into like a Wi Fi signal and then a Wi Fi signal would be received in your brain and turned into the terminator,
right?
You know, it sounds so far-fetched, but there are actually articles and patents about this very technology, and even you can find a lecture from West Point that is present on YouTube that discusses these things, and that's from like 2015.
Right.
We have an article that says edible graphene is here and electronics in your food are coming.
This is not all that positive.
I mean, it describes graphene in the same way that you have.
Basically, it's stronger than steel, a hundred times more conductive than copper.
This wonder material has yet to find a breakout application, but it goes down and it says Capable maybe edible circuit including fuel cells to store power radio hardware to transmit data Glowing elements to light up which people you know on videos like I I never know if I should believe a video or not but when you start seeing a couple hundred of people having magnets stuck to them
And then it turns into thousands and then thousands of people talking about transmission being close to people that are vaccinated and you see the world beginning to tell their stories and then I don't know if you've seen the videos but some people's blood seems to be lighting up right now and so glowing elements to light up and even all sorts of sensors like this is this is the dark world of of what we could be heading into and doctors have stated before that there is the the growing thought of how to emerge AI with our bodies.
Is this what we're doing?
Well, you know, it seems to me like we're taking the first steps and certainly there is a lot of technology that's published that talks about this.
For example, there is a study that came out, and I think about 2016, by a research team
from the University of Virginia in the United States.
And they created a technological device called Magneto, named after the X-Men character.
And what this is is a technology that they call magnetogenetics.
And it is a magnetic nanoparticle, and I believe it contains a graphene shell that
is injected into experimental animals so far.
And what happens is it goes into the brain of those animals, and it has a gene for a special ion channel
that has an effect in the brain.
And so it's sitting in these animals, and then when they decide to turn it on,
what they do is they put a magnetic field around the head of the animal.
Okay, and all they need for this, not a fancy machine, but just a couple of rare earth magnets,
like the neodymium magnets that are used in all kinds of consumer products, like to close your
purse and things. And so they just put a couple of those around the animal's head and it turns on
the gene for this ion channel and they observe a change in the animal's behavior. So they turn the
switch and the animal behaves differently.
And not only can they do this when in a place where like the animal's stationary and they, you know, do it, but they can do this in a social setting where a group of animals are interacting normally and they expose the magnetic field and then they can see the change in behavior in the whole group.
So this, you know, the way it's described is basically a way to remotely control animal behavior.
And this is already, you know, five years old from publication.
And if it was published, you know, at a point in time, you know that the research was actually done several years earlier than that.
So if you can think of what may be built upon that, and then how may that kind of thing be deployed?
And then, of course, look at government documents, policy documents that essentially say that this is the direction we're heading.
Like, there's a document from the UK government called something like Human Enhancement, and it is really essentially saying that every nation in the world is going to have to start enhancing their population, otherwise they're going to be cut out of trade and economic prosperity.
And what do they mean by enhancing, like this stuff you're talking about, this AI stuff, enhancing your population?
Yes, that's exactly what we're talking about, is we're talking about using technology to, you know, of course they, you know, this document I described is from the Ministry of Defense.
So it is focused on a bit on warfare, but they talk about, you know, that this can be used for medical applications and other performance situations outside of the military theater.
But they're basically, you know, a lot of this document is focused on the ethics, but it's not having an honest discussion presenting the ethical arguments.
What they're saying is that we as governments need to Tell the people what the ethics is so that we make sure that they do this type of technological enhancement before they get into a big debate and realize that it's not a good idea.
Wow.
Wow.
This is crazy stuff.
How do we all stay sane?
I mean, this is unbelievable.
Seriously, if you just want to entertain yourself, rather than, you know, read a science fiction novel like Aldous Huxley or George Orwell, just find some government policy papers and it'll be the same story.
Exactly.
And you know, and the CDC is just becoming such a joke as well.
Finding out, I was watching Tucker Carlson, I don't know if you caught him sort of highlighting how we have the main director of the CDC and where she came from, like out of oblivion and nowhere.
So she's, she's basically, she's moldable and malleable.
She's like graphene.
And they can, you know, they can send electrodes basically and, you know, make her say and do whatever she wants.
And no matter, no matter all of the evidence showing things like children are not hit hard by COVID-19, yet we have the world and the medical professionals telling us that we should be vaccinating children and We potentially have this sick, you know, graphene in our vaccines.
Like, it doesn't make any sense at all.
You know, Laura Lynn, it's just astonishing the amount of lies and deception that is going on.
And even the remote suggestion that these people really want to harm our children is just terrifying and saddening at the condition, you know, of humanity.
But, you know, in order to look at this, you know, quite clearly, would you just remind me what the point you just made was?
I lost my train of thought for some reason.
Yeah, yeah, just, yeah.
Well, you know, it's so overwhelming.
It's just that the CDC, you can't trust them.
The World Health Organization, when you look at all these groups.
Absolutely.
I know where I was going.
Go ahead.
I was going to mention that there was an article in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, which is the CDC's weekly document where they put information on the most important health issues, and they were describing an outbreak of what they call the Delta variant, which really is completely made up.
But nonetheless, let's just say that there was an outbreak of COVID and it was in Cape Cod, Massachusetts, a vacation destination.
And they reported in there that almost all of the people, 79% that were sick, had been vaccinated.
Now, not only was this the overwhelming majority, but it was actually about 5% higher than the overall rate of vaccination in the state of Massachusetts.
So what we're saying, you know, the way that you interpret that is that if you're vaccinated, you actually were more likely to get sick in that outbreak.
Now, in the same paragraph a few sentences later, they put that the most important thing you can do to
prevent COVID and death is to get the vaccine.
So how do they in the same paragraph say that the vaccine increases your chance of getting sick,
but that it's the best thing you could do to remain safe?
So, you know, essentially, they're just told what to say.
And it's whatever the narrative is, they're going to just repeat it no matter what the evidence is over and over again.
And with the CDC, I think it's very important because it is really not a government agency.
It really is a private foundation.
And if you look at this lady, Yes, if you look up the CDC Foundation, you'll see that almost all of the funding to the CDC comes from the pharmaceutical, medical device, and health insurance industries.
That's who is funding that agency, so of course they're going to say things.
Absolutely not.
It's very disturbing.
We have a clip about what you were talking about, about Massachusetts and some of that information there.
I'd love to just play a little bit of it and then get your feedback on it.
Yes, please.
I'll show you.
I hate to say the government would ever tell you something wrong, but they said 97% of everybody in the hospital is unvaccinated.
Well, in May, this chart shows that just by May, 9% of everybody in the hospital for COVID was fully vaccinated.
And for deaths, that 15% of deaths in May from COVID were amongst people that were fully vaccinated based on this chart and still The government told us 99.5% of everybody who died of dying of COVID is unvaccinated.
Well, think what the numbers might be now.
We know what they are in other countries.
Gosh.
Isn't that something?
Yeah you know I'm well aware of this and so it's like on the one hand they say and even write that you know all these people who are getting sick are not vaccinated but then when you look at the actual data you see it's quite the opposite and you know there are many hospital staff like nurses and other people who are fully aware of this and they are afraid To speak out and you know those are some of the people that I was really talking to earlier about having the courage and you know I'd be willing to teach you how to remake your career in natural healing if that's something that interests you but it's so important for healthcare workers to let people know what's really going on and how dangerous this vaccine is and it is
I guarantee the primary cause of any new illness or mortality that's going on in the world right now.
And the other thing that I was reading about yesterday is that the effectiveness of the vaccine that they've, you know, seem to say is really going to help save you from a 99.9% virus, you know, recovery rate.
But it's down to 16% after six months.
I think it's Israel that put out that bit of information.
So now, of course, they're preparing for the top-up vaccines because it's not enough that you've gotten this jab.
You've got to have the top-up because, oh, it's losing its effectiveness.
And nobody wants to really talk about the natural immunity that, you know, DeSantis is really touting that in the States.
But nobody's talking about it here, really, other than yourself, you know.
Well, I'm not exactly talking about that, because what I've uncovered, and I know that we've touched on this briefly before, is that there actually is no virus at all that has been even shown to exist, and there certainly is no experimental evidence that there's any new disease, because how would you identify it?
We have only diagnostic tests that have never been approved by any health agency.
And in fact, they've never even undergone a basic validation study.
A validation study is when a test basically proves that it measures what it's actually supposed to measure.
Right.
And that's not even been attempted for any, you know, COVID diagnostic.
So, there's essentially no actual new disease to even be immune from.
So you couldn't perform any clinical tests because there's no way to identify who would
have COVID versus who wouldn't.
So if you wanted to test a vaccine, you couldn't actually test it because what would you be
testing it against?
So what they've done is fabricate all of this through doing simulations, computer simulations,
making what they call pseudo viruses in the laboratory because they don't have access
to a real virus because it doesn't exist.
So, they make pseudoviruses, which are essentially just like the vaccine technology, except instead of injecting them into a person, they mix them with a cell culture and then they do experiments on the cell culture and they think that that teaches them about a virus, but they can't actually find any virus in nature at all.
And, you know, there is a Canadian, another Canadian hero that you didn't mention before because she's not a doctor, but her name is Christine Massey.
And what she's been doing is she's been sending freedom of information requests to government agencies, universities, and health departments all over Canada and around the world.
And she has been amassing them because every single one Has come back that we do not have any evidence where we ever have taken a virus out of a sick person
And purified it or isolated it and shown that it exists, not one time.
Right.
And this recently, of course, was entered into evidence in a courtroom in Alberta, Canada, as I think you know.
Yes, I do.
And, you know, Pat King was on the show and he's been, you know, sharing that he asked them for evidence.
And of course, everybody's weighing in on all of this.
But, you know, my husband found this website where they have They have a reward for anyone who can isolate it and it's one it's up to 1.5 million euros now.
1.5 million euros.
Yes, I'm familiar with the people running this.
Yes, so they're saying we're going to pay any doctor or anyone and I've I have even had some doctors say well this thing's been you know looked at six ways from Sunday this virus but actually it's That's how we know it's not real.
Right.
Right.
Well, so if somebody really has that and I put that on the line, oh, you know, of course, this has been isolated, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, oh, well, then be sure once you get your isolation, then be sure to go and collect your reward.
1.5 million euros.
I think that's double Canadian money.
I don't know.
It's like a lot more than we have.
This is fantastic.
Go get your reward.
It's a big purse.
So, you know, I just want to clarify one thing because, you know, that doctor may have been confused about this point as well, that you can find several scientific papers where in the title, it says that they've isolated a new virus.
So what you have to do is actually read what the experiment is they did, because they didn't do that at all.
What happened is that back in the 1950s, this famous Dr. John Enders got a Nobel Prize.
And after he got a Nobel Prize, his technique for making vaccines, because that's why he got a prize, he helped to make the polio vaccine, the procedure that he used to make vaccines suddenly became adopted to prove the existence of a virus.
So they called it virus isolation, and the toxic soup from a tissue culture that they get at the end, they call a viral isolate.
But this is not an isolated virus by any means because it's a mixture of many, many things from a cell culture.
But a true virus isolation, and you know, many of the most esteemed virologists have described the need for this, including Luke Montagnier, who won the Nobel Prize for discovering HIV, that You have to actually really isolate, or I could use the word purify because they don't corrupt the word purify, but in other words, take it right from its natural source, a person who's sick from a disease that the virus causes, and simply take it right out of that sick person and purify it so that you can see that it's a real thing, and so you can take it apart and study it.
And that's the only way to know if something's real, and that's exactly what virologists
like Luc Montagnier have described.
So it's very confusing when you see this word isolation on the paper.
You think that's what it means, but that's not what it means at all.
What it means is, that means is that they took fluid from a sick person and they put
it in a cell culture with various other toxic chemicals and then starved the cell culture.
And then those cells began dying and breaking down into particles, which happens to all
cells when they get sick and die.
And then they just pick one of those particles arbitrarily and say, hey, look, there's the
virus.
But it's not real.
And that's why when they do these experiments, they have to use computer simulations.
They have to use manufacturer pseudo viruses and things like that because they don't have the real thing
because the real thing doesn't exist except in our minds.
So for a simple girl like myself, trying to understand this, but people have died.
So something called COVID-19.
Is it?
Is it?
Do you believe that that was made in a lab in Wuhan?
Laura Lynn, I don't think you're fully grasping what I'm saying is that there's no scientific evidence anywhere of any virus, natural, lab created, anything like that that is causing any new illness, and furthermore, there's actually no evidence of a new illness.
If we identify a new illness that didn't exist before, we would have to have a way to distinguish it from other illnesses.
That's how we would recognize that there's a new illness in the first place.
Now, what we have is the main symptoms for COVID are just the symptoms of pneumonia.
So many things cause pneumonia.
It's not new.
It's a previously existing disease.
So how would you identify a person with COVID?
There's no reliable way because COVID actually doesn't exist.
Now, of course, people died because every single one of us is going to die.
That's a law of nature.
And when you look at people People's death or even people getting sick that doesn't
tell you like the fact that people died or the fact that people were sick
Doesn't tell you any information whatsoever about what caused them to die or be sick
But there's no indication in any of the scientific analyses or scientific data
That there's any new cause of sickness or death whatsoever Okay, so so when
What are they saying happened in the lab in Wuhan?
Is it your perspective that this is all a sham?
or have you potentially made okay? Yeah, so you know we don't, no one can really say
for sure what they were doing in Wuhan in those laboratories unless we you know
see the lab notebooks or videos or footage from what was you know happening
there.
So far what we have is just a lot of hearsay and sensationalism.
But there's just no evidence of a virus anywhere, lab created or otherwise.
Now, I know that there's this gain-of-function research, but all that is, is it's the same technology as the vaccines.
So, in other words, it's putting a synthetic gene into some kind of nanoparticle.
And then using it for experiments, or in this case, using it to perhaps poison or control the population.
Right.
But there's no particles that float around in the air and make us sick.
That's just something that has essentially been fabricated and used to scare and manipulate us.
And this goes back quite a long time.
Right, when you say that the gain-of-function research, it's the same as the vaccine, that makes a lot of sense to me because the vaccine is to, you know, it's been creating these spike proteins that can go off the charts and they can cause, like you talked about earlier, the blood clotting and pneumonia and things like this.
Well now, spike protein is a different profile of toxicity from graphene, although it does lead to blood clots, but they tend to be a little bit of a different variety.
Right, it's not the same as graphene, yes.
No, correct.
It's a protein.
Proteins are natural, but to be honest, we don't really know where the spike protein came from because they've never taken a coronavirus and separated the spike protein from the virus particles and purified it and said, here it is.
Right?
That's how you would normally identify proteins.
But that's never been done.
So all they have are computer simulated genetic sequences that they say are spike proteins.
And you know, when you go to a lab to buy, you can buy a vial of spike protein.
I bet you didn't know that.
So if you go to buy it.
No, I don't either.
But if you did go to buy it.
They make it in a recombinant genetic organism.
So in other words, they take the artificial gene for it, put it in like a bacteria or Chinese hamster ovary cell culture and transfect it so that that cell culture makes the protein and then they purify it and that's the same way, by the way, they make insulin.
But it's not from a real animal.
They used to make insulin by taking the pancreas of a pig and purifying the insulin out of it.
They can't do that with spike protein because it doesn't actually exist in nature.
It's only a completely synthetic toxic protein and they are using it for this purpose to try and get people's bodies to become a manufacturing plant for it and then of course it would exert its toxicity on that person.
Okay, so is that, have you watched some of the stuff David Martin has put out about the patents?
Yes, absolutely.
It's very much related to what I've just been talking about.
Right.
Because these sequences that were put forth that were said to be novel and representative, and by the way, all of these genetic sequences have been experimentally derived from computer simulations, not from actually taking the genetic material from an organism and looking at it.
but taking tons of fragments of genetic material from tons of organisms, putting them all into
a computer and let the computer simulate from those little fragments a genome of a virus,
even though it has no idea where any individual fragment came from.
Could have come from a hundred different things, right?
And that's how they determine this.
So what David Martin was reporting is that the specific sequences that they say are unique for this, you know, made-up virus of SARS-CoV-2 or for the made-up Delta variant or any of these things, that they were actually patented before this pandemic even existed. So in other words, the fake coronavirus and
its actual sequences that they use in the vaccine were planned out well in advance
and patented.
And that's so he, he didn't look at the, you know, the viral tissue culture experiments and the genome
sequencing experiments that I looked at because my background, you know, is as a scientist.
He is a legal expert and business analyst.
So he looked at the patent record.
And so we both looked at different sets of information that, you know, came together and brought us both to the same exact conclusion.
That in the real world, in reality, in nature, in existence, there is no SARS-CoV-2 virus at all.
There is only the belief and propaganda campaign that it exists and of course there is this computer generated genetic information that programs in the toxic spike
protein and that is a real thing.
It just that it doesn't come from nature.
It comes from a laboratory.
Okay.
So is the toxic spike protein in sort of this dangerous, if it's not a SARS-CoV-2, would
you say, but there's something that killed the people in New York that is being attributed
to killing people in Canada, but it's not the same thing?
Is that what you're saying?
Everyone who died, died of some cause.
Yes.
Now in, you know, most of the world overall, there was no increase in deaths from 2019 to 2020, right?
It's essentially the same.
You know, some countries it's fewer, some countries slightly more, but not... No excess mortality.
Right, not different enough to raise a red flag.
But if you drill down to some very specific localized geographic areas, you would see a different story.
And New York is one of those places where you did see early on in the pandemic months between about March to June, there was a significant spike of mortality.
But this is actually readily explained because what they did in New
York State and particularly in New York City is that they suddenly changed the way that they administer
health care such that they administered lethal health care.
And there were two main policies that drove this.
One was the decision to put people on ventilators when they did not need it.
And that meant that they had to not just put them on it, but first they had to paralyze them.
Right.
And and put them under general anesthesia in order to even get them to stop fight against the ventilator.
And that has already been known that it causes significant death and lung injury.
It's called barotrauma.
So that was responsible for a lot of the deaths.
And then the other main policy, which came from, you know, the now disgraced Governor Cuomo, was to take all of the elderly, acutely sick people that
went to hospitals that needed hospital care and instead send them to understaffed nursing
homes that can't take care of sick people.
You know, they might sound like they can because they're nursing homes, but they don't have
medicines.
They don't have, you know, the emergency equipment or access to the services and they don't have doctors.
You know, doctor comes there like once a week or something like that, you know, to the nursing home.
So they can't manage hospital patients and they were essentially neglected because they were told that these people had a scary deadly disease.
So they were neglected and they died.
And that's why in New York, you know, specifically, but in California, during the same time period, they had the same number of fake cases of COVID, but they didn't have any mortality spike whatsoever.
And that tells you right there that it couldn't possibly be a virus because if a virus kills so many people here, it kills so many people there.
That's pretty comparable numbers.
It's not like it's more lethal in one place and less lethal in another place.
So, you know, essentially any data that you look at will, if you look carefully enough and think about it, you'll come to the same exact conclusion.
Okay.
And I know that they did say, like, I was like, hey, no matter how sick I am, don't ever put me on a ventilator because the ventilators were literally killing people.
And here was, you know, Donald Trump saying, you need ventilators?
I'll get you ventilators.
You need a vaccine?
I'll get you a vaccine.
I mean, you know, so many, so many things and decisions that were made in that year were just on a, like a, you know, trying to deal with the crisis, but actually it may have done a lot of damage.
Laura Lynn, every policy decision, which also took away various freedoms that we had, but every single policy decision had the opposite effect of benefiting anyone's health.
Lockdowns caused illness.
It increased suicide and drug addiction and overdose deaths.
Masking caused all kinds of different illness.
I even had people come to me for a consultation that had skin infections in the exact shape
of the mask around their face.
So obviously we've seen thousands and thousands of deaths just in the United States from the
vaccine products.
And of course we've seen miscarriages, fatal blood clots, cardiomyopathy in teenagers.
We've seen Bell's palsy and Guillain-Barre syndrome, which are types of paralysis.
So very, very severe reactions from the so-called vaccine products.
Every single implemented policy has had a harmful effects rather than the, you know, stated beneficial health effects.
Right okay so what what is your take on what happened in Wuhan at the beginning when I mean I'm sure some of those videos were fake they were just there to terrorize us somebody was having fun with it but they had an outbreak and you know they told they had no one on their streets Well, you know, China already has implemented this type of social control before the pandemic.
You know, they have social credit scores, they have facial recognition software and cameras everywhere in their cities, right?
I mean, the people there are used to it.
Right, and they were able to control everybody.
Yes, absolutely, because they had already really put that into place.
They purposely started in China, I believe, because of that very reason that they could say some people are sick, Then, you know, lock everybody down.
They'll obey right away because they're used to being obedient.
And then they could stop saying anyone's sick and say, now people are better.
And then be an example for the rest of the world.
Look, China acted this way and now they're all better.
So that was the justification that all of the other countries in the world used when they, you know, in a lock step with each other.
enacted the same exact policies as China that would have never been able to be enacted, you know,
except under the false premise of a health emergency.
So when you, I think you've used the word psy-op, when you're saying that,
you're saying like this was a massive organized deception.
Absolutely.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Now, I'm not saying that everyone who works for the government or every health department official or every doctor and nurse.
Absolutely not.
In fact, almost none of them are.
The truth is that they don't really know.
They're not told what's going on at all.
They're just kind of kept in this chaotic situation where they're given different rules and different instructions all the time so that they won't question anything too carefully.
So when our governments, when we've got Dr. Theresa Tam basically doing this huge movie, like lived out in real time, it's a reality show, scaring us, the Delta variant, what do you think about the Delta variant?
Like, what is it then?
Do you think that they have formed anything at all that has been more deadly?
Because people have said they've gotten a bat, like, who survived, they said, oh, that was the worst, you know, a chest thing or whatever.
Do you think that they have created something potentially that they've manufactured from bats or whatever?
I heard that maybe there's a piece of the HIV strain in it.
I don't know.
Is there anything to that?
Well, you know, HIV is also not a real virus.
It's also a story, but the thing is that they can concoct all of these types of things in a laboratory, but the only way that they could get into you and make you sick, it would be through an injection.
There's just you know they can't put them in the air because they're too tiny and there's just too much air they would get so far diluted like someone did an analysis and did a calculation about if we you know based on the number of cases at the peak of COVID and and the size of the you know alleged particles and because you know there are Particles that are the size of viruses that are real.
I'm not saying there aren't real particles, just that there aren't real particles that make us sick like viruses, or there's no science to prove that.
But they did this calculation kind of for fun.
If we could add up all of the viral particles in the world at the peak of COVID, how much volume would they take up if we had them all in one place?
Okay, and you're never going to guess how much this is, but they used a can of soda, a 12-ounce can, as their vessel, and it took up about one and a half 12-ounce cans of soda.
So if you can imagine that tiny amount of something, if you spread it over a whole country, or even a city, right, the chance that any substantial amount of it would reach any person is so low that it couldn't really cause any illness.
So, but if it's developed into an injectable product, then it would absolutely cause toxicity and illness.
And so if they're concocting things, that's what they're doing with it.
Right.
I know a lot of people follow you and so they've, you know, and I know you've said these things, but it's so mind blowing because you feel like you're in the Truman Show or something, right?
We are.
We are in the Truman Show.
I mean, that's that, you know, that's the thing about right now, you know, is kind of the great unveiling that if you are open to seeing the truth of our reality, you'll see that all of these webs of deception are coming unglued.
They're exposing themselves in many of these ways.
It's really easy to see that the government is acting totally against your best interest,
that they have another interest in mind.
Now it's very obvious if you're open to seeing the truth.
That's why all of these big paradigms are being challenged right now.
Earlier in my career, I was a regular mainstream doctor.
I studied biology.
I went to medical school.
I prescribed antibiotics.
I believed in viruses.
I even did HIV AIDS research earlier in my career, working under the CDC.
So, I come from that mainstream perspective.
It wasn't until really the fall of 2019 that I even started researching anything about germ theory, and that was really just looking at Louis Pasteur and Antoine Béchamp, who were contemporaries back in the turn of the 20th century.
So, I never looked at one paper about viruses, you know, in my entire lifetime until February of 2020.
And that's why it was so astonishing to me at the time.
And I really questioned myself, you know, am I reading this correctly?
Am I understanding this correctly?
But the more and more I thought about it, the more it confirmed that I was right.
You know, there were some big signs like, All of the virus experiments where they say that they've discovered a new virus, they never do a control experiment.
It was drilled in my head.
You always have to do a control.
You can't even submit an article to get published unless you have a control group because that tells you are your results from the experiment itself?
Or are they from what you're testing?
Right?
And recently a control experiment was done for these virus tissue culture isolation procedures
and it showed that you could prove a virus when you didn't even add a virus to the experiment.
So, you know, that's why they don't do a control.
But I had to change my whole thinking upside down about what causes disease.
And I'll tell you that it's not easy, but once you see the full truth of it, it's so freeing because you never ever again have to be scared that some invisible germs going to invade your body and make you sick.
If you get sick, then probably it's something you did even if you didn't
mean to.
And the truth will set you free, right?
You know, I haven't understood all of this and what you speak of is really mind-boggling to me
and you're just blowing my mind right now.
And I'm hoping that the listeners too are also kind of trying to really grasp what you're saying.
Because if what you're saying is true, and I could see that it could be, I don't know.
I want to believe you.
But...
Well, listen, this is something that everyone really needs to spend a little time thinking about and deciding for themselves.
Like, I don't want you to just listen to what, you know, I mean, maybe I look like a smart guy in my jacket and tie and glasses skin, right?
You do!
You do look like a smart guy.
That's the thing.
But it doesn't, even if I am the most brilliant scientist who ever lived, you still should not just take what I say at face value.
Well, look at Fauci.
You can't take anything he says to be true, right?
So with him you could just take everything as a lie and you'd probably be correct
But but uh what I've done is um, i've collaborated with a couple of other doctors and scientists and we made this
like statement which describes
Exactly what's going on with these virus experiments in terms that are not scientific like any person
Could understand of you know, who's uh of average intelligence and it's called the statement on virus
isolation or sovi And it's right on my website that you had put up
So if you if you want to look into this issue That is just a great place to start because we lay it out
in simple language And then you can go and pull up an article after that, like
one of these papers where they say that they've isolated the virus and you can see for yourself, is it like we
described?
Is it different? What do you think about it?
And that's the kind of exercise that we all need to do about what's going on in the world right now because that's
our responsibility as adults.
We need to learn about the world so that we can make decisions, you know, not just for ourselves, but for our family.
And if we don't take the time, if we just take what the talking heads on, you know, CNN or Fox say at face value, we are.
going to be misled left and right because you know even if you don't think the government's
evil or anything you know they have all those advertisers and they say stuff because they
want to please their advertisers right so you don't want to be get misinformation so
you know so you go and buy some product you want to know the truth so you know you can
do the right thing.
Well it's it's really shocking.
So if this is indeed a great PSYOP, so the vaccines are all part of it, right?
Absolutely.
They're one of the most important parts.
Right.
So are these just really kill shots?
And I think that some of them are placebos, so they don't kill everybody at the same time.
But do you think they're Well, you know, it's really impossible to know for sure because we don't really... These things are brand new technology.
They've only existed for a short time, right?
We have no long-term safety data.
We know that we don't have full disclosure of the ingredients, most likely.
And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if some vials contain different things than others.
That is certainly Not out of the realm of possibility, but we'll have to wait and see.
But there is one thing that I think is becoming clear already, is that it has a substantial effect on fertility.
I looked at the birth rate at the end of 2020 and already in the United States it was below replacement levels.
So that's before any vaccine, right?
That's just because of the social distancing and mask and lockdown policies.
Obviously, no couples could get together.
And if you are planning to have a baby, you're probably thinking maybe this isn't the best time.
So just from that.
To have sex with a mask on.
So that's very limiting.
Yeah.
Yeah, well you could still technically get pregnant, but you may not want to.
But then we've seen such a high incidence of menstrual symptoms, including miscarriages.
That I think that this could, you know, it's going to take a little time to see it, right?
Because there's a delay from when people get the injection and then start to get pregnant and then realize that they're infertile, right?
And then connect it back to the vaccine.
So we're not going to be able to tell for some time how significant the effect is.
But I think there's a strong enough signal right now that And it fits with the overall agenda.
So I think that's a really strong probability of what one of the things that we're going to see in the long term.
Oh, my word.
So it is.
Do you think that is these elites that are behind this as well?
Like, do you do you think it's the the powers that be the depopulators, the people that have that sort of as an agenda?
The Davos and the World Economic Forum and people like this that get together and they, you know, brainstorm how to destroy our existence.
Yeah well they may not use those exact words but absolutely you know there are all these international organizations and some of them represent different industries and you mentioned the World Economic Forum of course and we all know about the United Nations and you know you might think that they're only about benevolence but go and read the agenda for the 21st century and tell me what you think but we also have The Rockefeller Foundation, we have the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Commission, right, all of these different organizations and they're, you know, geographically distributed as well.
They have all have policy documents, many predating, you know, like there's a Rockefeller Foundation document from 2010 that really describes all of the major aspects of this psychological operation in advance.
So, Yeah, these are the stakeholders who are essentially conspiring to bring about these policies.
And, you know, we don't know who the absolute, you know, top leaders are.
We know also that there are some, you know, occult organizations that are involved in this and, you know, groups like the Council of 500 and such.
They're all members of all those organizations I mentioned as well.
There is this top-down planning and leadership structure.
When have you ever seen or when has the world ever known that practically every nation in response to some crisis decides to enact the same exact policy?
I mean that is just unprecedented, right?
So that tells you for sure that there has to be a centralized authority who's directing all those nations.
And that's who we're talking about is the network of this group of the central authority.
And what's really scary, Dr. Kaufman, is those that have not participated.
We have, is it three or four presidents now of countries that say, we're not, we're not going along with this?
Oh, you're talking about the dead presidents?
Yes.
You know?
Yes, no, the three African nations where they did not adopt the COVID policies.
And that, by the way, you know, that meant that they had to turn down significant money and bribes.
And, you know, we know about that from one of the Belarus, I believe, the Belarusian head of state, right, talked about how I think it was the International Monetary Fund offered all this money if they lock down and mask people, said no.
You know and so President Maga Fuli said no the head of state of Madagascar and one other nation I can't recall which one and all three of those heads of states are now deceased and all replaced by you know globalist leaders like members of the World Economic Forum like the Maga Fuli's vice president and So before I let you go, we have this interesting thing happening in Alberta where now Dina Henshaw is backtracking.
Do you have any thoughts on why maybe this is happening?
We've got the great Pat King who went into court and asked some questions and it's so great.
I think the Justice Center also was putting those kinds of things to the court.
Why is Alberta backtracking?
And Jason Kenney, who's been an all-out failure and has just lost so much confidence from the people, they don't trust him anymore.
But all of a sudden, he's suddenly doing the right thing.
Well, you know, listen, I think this was kind of a little bit of a brilliant move from an unsuspecting character and a bit of a stroke of luck as well as genius.
Because Pat King is the gentleman's name who was the defendant in this case, right?
So, you know, I've tried to talk to various attorneys who are, you know, doing big lawsuits about that really the only appropriate strategy, in my opinion, is to Ask for evidence that there really is a virus because they will not be able to produce it.
And once it's clear that there actually isn't a virus, well every policy then that's built upon that will become null and void.
And so it's the master strategy and that's why it's such an important truth to understand.
But the attorneys are afraid that it'll be too difficult to believe.
And so they are not pursuing that strategy.
But this guy, Pat, who's a regular guy, representing himself in court, which we should all be doing if we're facing any of this tyranny, he decides to get this into evidence because he knows, because he's done the research, he knows that they don't actually have a virus.
So what he did is he subpoenaed because he was arrested for a COVID restriction violation.
So that means that the basis of his arrest is predicated on a virus.
So he said, I'm going to subpoena the health minister for my province, who is this Dina Crenshaw, and ask her to provide material evidence That there actually is a virus and he I read actually his subpoena and it was worded very very well like I I would have not done a better job myself and based on that what happened is that first of all she was taken by surprise
Um, and, but she could not, she could not produce the evidence.
And then he was able to get it on the court record that he requested this material evidence of the proof of a virus, which caused this emergency pandemic and all the policies and the health minister saying, we don't have any evidence of that.
So obviously you see, if this got out in a wide scale, um, uh, way and people trusted it as being true.
The entire Canadian government would have to reverse everything and come clean, right?
And they're scared of that possibility, which is why they just suddenly reflexively walked back, in Alberta at least, The restrictions, not all of them, by the way, but they did away with track and trace.
And they did away with mandatory quarantines, but they still allow mask mandates and social distancing.
So they're not fully, you know, they didn't fully abandon it because they couldn't have masking if there's no virus, obviously.
But what I think they're doing is they're backing down and they're hoping that nobody makes a big issue of this.
And they can just kind of blow it over, and in time, when people forget about it, they'll move on to the next scary topic, and then they'll put back their tyrannical policies.
So I would say, you know, if you live in Canada, because you can now get this evidence, and if you're facing any kind of COVID-related charges, and I know there are thousands of people who are, what you need to do is get this evidence And bring it into your case and subpoena the health minister in your province and ask the same question and put a full court press.
Because as soon as you get some judicial decisions like this, then it gives the basis that perhaps a big lawsuit could actually happen.
And it puts a lot of political pressure.
You know, these politicians are controlled by those elites, but they also Need to get reelected.
And if they are embarrassed in front of their constituency, you know that they will not be reelected.
So they will change their tune.
You know, this happened in Texas when Randy Kelton filed a 120 page indictment against the governor of Texas, charging him with sedition and all these other crimes that could be penalized with execution.
And got the grand jury to convene.
Well, now they did not, you know, vote to indict.
Okay.
He didn't go on trial for these crimes, but he was so embarrassed that he immediately reversed every executive order, every COVID restriction within a week.
So, you know, I think this is the kind of results that we're having some of those now.
And if people really follow up on this, it could be a massive turnaround in Canada.
Wow, well that is some good news to end on, and I just thank you.
So let's do this again, because sure as anything, as the tide turns, we're going to have new sagas and chapters and new revelations, and I'm just completely intrigued by what you're saying.
I'm not certain, you know, I don't know how to grasp it right now, but I really I really appreciate that you're bringing to light so many critical elements of this, you know, and the scientific basis that we need to rely on.
And, I mean, it just makes the whole thing crazy.
And now people are getting shots, you know, for no reason.
One final question.
You do believe that they could use weapons, man-made viruses, to actually I mean, that could potentially harm us?
Some sort of bad... Well, they're doing it right now with the genetic vaccines.
I mean, really, if you look at what these genetic vaccines are, it is the exact structure of what they say a virus is.
It has an envelope.
Right?
And then inside it has genetic material.
That's pretty much the definition of a virus in a textbook.
And they give you injections of these and it's making people sick.
And that's the only way they could deploy this type of technology.
But, you know, people go out and get injections.
So it's not that difficult.
They know how to convince people to get these shots.
And people, even when faced with direct evidence, You know, they still deny it.
And so, it's essentially, you know, it's like people kind of walking into their own demise, you know, by choice.
And choosing it.
And there's no... That's right.
And no one is held liable for what's going on.
They have set it all up to their benefit.
All the risk is on humanity.
You should never buy or accept a product when the manufacturer has no liability because if you're harmed, who is going to be responsible then?
Would you buy a car that if it exploded and killed your family, you couldn't sue the car company?
You know, what incentive would they have to make safe cars then?
You know, what incentive does any of these companies have to make safe vaccines?
They have contracts that guarantee that the government will buy them.
They have complete immunity from liability.
They can't be sued.
You can't even sue them if you wanted to.
So all they have is money coming in.
And if their product kills some people, so be it.
And then we have the VAERS and no one's allowed to talk about it publicly in mainstream media.
It's all mums the word.
If they even know, I don't know.
These hideous reporters who've gone to school somewhere to learn how to investigate and be a good reporter, you know, and all they're doing is making sure that their hair looks good so that they can do the next take of some, you know, manufactured agenda sentence that they have to say out to the public every night.
It's so pathetic.
Well, you know, it's far worse than that because it's not just that they won't talk about what these post-market surveillance data, that's what that is, you know.
It's like when any new drug goes on the market, you're supposed to collect information because it's new.
You don't know what it's going to do, right?
But it's not just that.
It's that, you know, they're actually telling you the opposite.
They're telling you that it's safe when it's not.
Right so it's not just that they're suppressing it is that they're they're telling you that the opposite of what you would conclude from looking at it is actually true.
What do you think the timeline is for all the revelation to begin coming out that like will there be a time like we look back at Nazi Germany and the people that said I thought I was just doing my job you know later on they're they're just so ashamed of what they were a part of but how long Cause we got a ways to go.
We have an entire nation in complete deception.
They think you and I are, are, you know, crazy.
They think any of the doctors that are being banned, they, you know, think that, Oh, it's the conspiracy theorists.
Like what's the timeline?
Because clearly one day it, it will be all revealed.
Yeah, absolutely.
You mentioned a couple of things that are really relevant to the Nazi era and the Nuremberg Code, and I'm so glad, by the way, you mentioned that because everyone, employers, governments, universities, hospitals, they're all violating the Nuremberg Code of Medical experimentation, which is essentially international law.
They broke an international law.
And I mention this specifically because after the Nuremberg trials, the people who violated
these principles, including journalists, by the way, were executed.
Doctors were executed for conducting medical experimentation on people without their knowledge
and consent, which is exactly what's going on right now.
So this is a very, very serious time, but it is still in the early stages.
So it's possible we could turn this around, but only if people say no to these technologies.
They have to say no to everything.
You have to say no to locking down, say no to quarantining, say no to masks, say no to
vaccines, say no to testing.
Testing might even be the most important thing overall, because you know, if nobody goes
and gets tested, then there are no cases.
Because it's that fake test that's the only way they get the numbers.
So if people say no to those things, then this whole thing will turn around very quickly.
But it's only going to be a few more years if it continues on this path before we'll
be in a totalitarian society.
And, you know, who knows how long that will last.
If we look at, you know, obviously Nazi Germany didn't last very long because they lost the war, but there's no war going on right now.
This is a global, you know, communist totalitarian state.
If we look at the Soviet Union, you know, they maintained their communist state for decades.
Right.
I mean, from gosh, you know, 50 years, something like that.
I wish I knew the exact number.
So.
Fell in 89.
Yeah.
Maybe 72 years or something like that.
So, you know, I mean, could we be in for that?
You know, who knows?
But I'll tell you what, I am not going to live in that kind of a world.
And you know, if, you know, somebody comes with arms to hold me down and give me an injection, I'm going to go down fighting with guns blazing.
I'm not going to subject myself To living a life of tyranny and totalitarianism.
But I don't think it's going to come to that.
I think that freedom-loving, responsible people who are open to seeing the truth of reality are going to form a parallel society.
And that we are going to face some challenges but we will actually be able to really thrive and prosper and get back to a way of living that's much closer to our true nature as men and women where we know how to live off the land and take care of ourselves.
We know how to build things and fix things and hunt and fish.
and take care of our own health, sew up our own wounds, all the things that we're perfectly capable of doing.
And if we look back in antiquity, we've always done until this modern era of convenience
and infantilization of the general populace.
Wow.
You are so fascinating.
And we could probably talk for hours because this has been amazing.
And we do.
We do talk for hours.
I just thank you so much for what you've shared.
Thank you for your wisdom as well and your insight.
It's really helping us to think through what's happening to us right now and I think that's so important.
I'm always on a quest for truth and then I literally have to, you know, kind of mull over it.
And I know we've talked before and I just feel like it's getting more clear to me now.
I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV.
And so for me, this is just so overwhelming.
And so I appreciate your expertise and the knowledge that you bring and help us to understand what potentially, this is even worse than we thought.
I mean, this is how I feel right now.
You know, it's, it is bad.
And of course you can get caught up in, you know, because, okay, so you could be fooled and, you know, outside of reality and believe the narrative and be scared of a fake virus.
But you can also be aware of that this is a psychological operation and be just as scared of a, you know, totalitarian, disharmonious future.
But the truth is that none of those things are a certainty or a foregone conclusion.
Each of us really have quite a bit of power that we just don't realize.
It's like we've been convinced since we were young children that we are powerless and vulnerable,
that we are weak creatures.
But that's not actually the case.
Actually we have quite a lot of strength.
Just by one single person taking courageous, just, you know, moral actions, that can have
just incredible effects for the good.
Absolutely and I think of the doctors in Canada who've done that and the the American doctors who form their own organizations and Dr. Patrick Phillips said something the other day from Ontario.
He said this is actually giving us an opportunity to form new organizations that will now be the standard that will now set a foundation for truth and what's right in you know In the medical field and so all of it is an opportunity And I I think that's a very very good way to end this and I thank you so much.
Dr. Kaufman Well, it's been a pleasure and I would love to come back and I really feel a lot for all my neighbors up to the north and I want you to know that I love you all and I support you and I am rooting for you in this fight that you will remain free and We appreciate it.
Thank you and God bless you.
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