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From Dunblane to Sandy Hook (2018)

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	On March 13th, 1996, a man called Thomas Hamilton walked into a primary school in Dunblane, Scotland and massacred 16 people.
	The event not only shocked the community, but also kick-started a movement that concluded with the outright and complete banning of handguns in Scotland.
	Most of us in the West had only the vaguest notion of this event or the effects it had on Scotland, nor did we have any idea just how many similarities existed between Dunblane and America's most famous Sandy Hook.
	That is, until tonight's guest appeared on the scene.
	Welcome to the program tonight, Photo Via Pops.
	Welcome, Photo!
	Good to have you with us.
	Thanks, Solon.
	Nice to be here.
	Thank you for inviting me back.
	Oh, you're very welcome.
	Well, we are rapidly approaching the 20th anniversary of Dunblane, which will be on the 13th of this month.
	And we know that this particular event touched you.
	Your proximity to the event when it occurred, the fact that your father played a role in it, which I will allow you to describe in just a moment, but we figured now would be a great time to bring you back, talk about the event, and remind people of just how many incredibly eerie similarities there are between Dunblane and Sandy Hook.
	So why don't we kick it off with, let's first, let's go with your name and give your dad a plug.
	Why don't you tell us a bit about where the name comes from?
	Photo Via Pops comes from my father, who's now deceased, who was a press photographer all his life.
	He did work on the day of the Dunblane massacre.
	His photographic equipment I've kind of inherited and took up the practice of photography and I'm really enjoying it.
	So when I came to make my first video, which was nothing to do with this subject, I guess I picked a name, Photo Via Pops, like Photo Via my father, you know?
	And it just stuck, and I used the same channel.
	And when I started to work on the similarities between Dunblane and Sandy Hook that were hitting me between the eyes when I started looking into it, I kept the name.
	And people now know me as Photo, the person who uncovered the similarities, you know?
	And you did.
	I mean, to be clear, there was, I mean, I had not come across any other instances of anybody bringing up those similarities prior to your, uh, your first video in that what has now become a nine part series.
	So, I mean, that's, I mean, granted you can, I guess you can kind of expect that just by virtue of the fact that there is so much distance between the two events.
	How did you, how did you come to follow along with Sandy Hook in the first place?
	Um, Well, I think I stopped watching TV a long time ago, about nine years ago now, eight, nine years.
	And then I had my own personal awakening in 2014 during the Scottish referendum, which was a total, in my opinion, a total cover-up job.
	They were never going to let Scotland be independent for various political reasons, financial reasons and other reasons, you know.
	And I guess I was so burned by that.
	I started looking into other lies around the world and other cons and other, I don't want to say the word hoaxes because I don't know if that's true, but you know what I mean, like false flag events.
	When I started to look at Sandy Hook, it was really We Need to Talk About Sandy Hook was one of the first things that I watched.
	And bells were ringing in my head regarding Dunblane.
	And I thought, oh, wait a minute.
	That happened in Dunblane.
	This happened in Dunblane.
	Or there was this character in Dunblane.
	And it just grew from there.
	So I thought, I need to put this out there.
	But to be honest, I thought you would all have known that by now.
	But I was surprised.
	It was a new angle.
	I suppose on Sandy Hook, a new way, a possible blueprint for what happened there, you know?
	Well, I mean, blueprint is a good way of describing it because as the show continues tonight and we go over some of those similarities for people who may not be familiar with your video series, I think it will become glaringly apparent to our listeners just how profound some of the similarities are.
	By the way, if you have not seen that video series, I would suggest that you pop on over to Photo's channel on YouTube and catch the series.
	What's the name of it again?
	I'm sorry.
	It was Sandy Hook based on the Dunblane story.
	Right.
	So you can go to the YouTube channel and check that out.
	Make sure you do.
	In preparation for tonight, I sat down and watched the entire series.
	Last night and I was struck because you've released.
	Do you remember how many episodes you'd released when you were on the program the last time?
	Yeah, it was just five.
	Just five.
	So now, yeah, four new ones and I watched them all in series and when you sit down and watch them all like that, it really becomes obvious just how incredibly eerie and weird it is, those similarities.
	Actually, when I was watching the series last night, I took a whole bunch of notes, and the very first one at the top of my list is the way you began the program, the way you began your series in the very first video, which I thought was perfect, because you talk about the first clip is Evil Visited Us Yesterday, and who was that?
	Was that the mayor of Dunblane or something like that?
	No, his name is Ron Taylor and he's the headmaster at Dunblane Primary School at the time.
	And he was given a press conference immediately after.
	And it was a phrase that I was very familiar with.
	And when I looked into Sandy Hook, I heard the governor, Dan Malloy, saying the same thing.
	And I thought, wow, I'm going to look into this more.
	Yeah, the only difference was is that he said today, because I think the press conference was that same day.
	But apart from that, the words were exactly the same.
	Yeah, Dan Malloy said yesterday.
	Yeah, you were.
	It was Dan Malloy that said yesterday, it was Ron Taylor, the headmaster, that said today.
	But, you know, all the similarities start with the time, 9.30am, you know, just bell after bell.
	Yeah, and that's right, and how long the shooting took to occur, like in a very short period of time all this was done apparently, like three minutes I think you were telling me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Three minutes.
	That's astonishing.
	So, regarding Dunblane, give us an idea of just how big Dunblane is.
	It was tiny at the time in 1996.
	There was 7,000 of a population, so not very many.
	It was a tiny, they say, city of Dunblane, but it is a village.
	The only reason it has the category of city is because it has a cathedral, you know?
	But yeah, I mean, yeah.
	In Sandy Hook, I think, in proportion to the States, it's probably, Sandy Hook's probably tinier than Dunblane was, because we have 5 million of a population in Scotland and 56 in the UK, 56 million.
	So, But it was one of the biggest primary schools in Scotland at the time.
	With 640 pupils, I think.
	Right, and even that number is astonishingly close to the numbers we were getting from Sandy Hook as well, although they seemed to bounce around a fair bit, but the initial number was 600-something, if I'm not mistaken.
	I think you're right, and then it's 400 and then it's 300, yeah.
	Right, exactly, and based by the number of children that we saw exit, it could have been less than 50.
	Or, yeah, yeah.
	Now, what about similarities with how the media treated the event?
	Well, yeah, I guess there are a lot of similarities and a lot of differences.
	For example, You had the immediate talk of gun control, like you had in Sandy Hook, but you didn't have any parents speaking right away, you know?
	That took a long time, although it was not for the want of trying, because the world's media descended on Dunblane when this happened, you know?
	So that little town, probably just like Sandy Hook, you know, was invaded.
	But the parents had a lot of protection from the media, very similar to Sandy Hook as well.
	They had a policeman assigned to each family of the victims, you know.
	So, 16 families, but also the surviving victims as well, because there were a lot more survivors of the Dunblane massacre than there was, allegedly, of Sandy Hook, you know.
	There was a lot of children taken to hospital by air ambulance.
	Yeah, and there's still evidence of those injuries today.
	Right.
	Well, the numbers, the numbers for anybody who's interested, if you're keeping score, 13 children, three adults taken to hospital at Dunblane.
	That's right.
	Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook had two children taken to hospital and none, no, no wounded, zero wounded.
	There were 10 wounded or pardon me, um, geez, you know, I don't have a number on the wounded.
	How many wounded were there?
	Oh, there were 16, yeah, 16 killed and 10 wounded.
	Is that the number?
	You were right, you were 13.
	There's 10 children taken to hospital with wounds and three adult teachers.
	Oh, OK.
	I thought it was 13 kids and three adults, but it was 13 altogether.
	OK.
	I think so.
	I think so.
	OK.
	But, I mean, astonishingly, I mean, the numbers from Sandy Hook reflect exactly the opposite.
	Almost no one taken to hospital and nobody wounded.
	So every shot was fatal then?
	Every shot was fatal except for two adults, Natalie Hammond, who you accurately portrayed in her video.
	You compared her to Eileen?
	Harold, yeah.
	Eileen Harold, yeah.
	Because you could see when that woman, I can't remember exactly which video it was, but you can tell that that lady definitely has some injuries on her arm.
	She can't fully stretch out her arm because I assume Like tissue and muscle damage.
	She doesn't grab onto the hand railing when she's walking into what I assume is a courthouse or something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She definitely looks injured.
	And when I saw that, I started asking myself like, why wounded in Dunblane and zero wounded in Sandy Hook?
	And the only thing I could think of was, well, it's almost, it would be almost impossible to get a child to pretend they're wounded and then remain in character for however long you need them to do that.
	Right?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And just to follow up with what Zero Three was asking about, there is ample information that is released in the media about those injuries, about those children, about who they were, their names, and you just see a stone wall in Sandy Hook, you know?
	I think I've displayed that in one of the videos, that the constant quote in Sandy Hook was, Out of respect for the families, we cannot tell you their names, their injuries, you know, I'm paraphrasing obviously, but it was the opposite where we were.
	We were getting it all.
	There was nothing to hide in that respect in Dunblay.
	Did you notice in the press when the first initial calls for gun control or gun banishment came, was that something that was spearheaded by the press or was that something that was sort of It was mutual.
	Yeah, because we didn't have a gun culture in the UK.
	We all felt angry and I think that's what we were to focus on.
	We felt so angry and there's nothing bigger to touch your heart or tug at your heartstrings than the death of children in a violent manner, you know?
	Because we didn't have a gun culture.
	We did what we thought was right and raised our voices for gun control.
	Of course, we never want this to happen again.
	Dear Lord, you know, biggest school shooting in the world at that point.
	But then it was spearheaded by the press.
	And then, of course, you've got the government's agenda and the elite's agenda all wrapped into one.
	And the poor gun owners, you know, responsible people, who owned guns for target shooting, for hunting, for sport.
	They were vilified in our country.
	They were hated, and they were silenced, and they weren't listened to.
	And they did take to the streets, you know?
	I've got photographs of banners that talk about, you know, if Thomas Hamilton had set fire to the school, would you now be banning petrol, you know?
	And it's like, ah, shut up, you know?
	We don't want that argument.
	Don't be silly.
	Guns kill people, you know?
	But the ordinary common person like me and my father and my family and our friends and I mean, I was nine miles away from that place that day.
	You know, we all thought, don't be ridiculous.
	You don't and nobody needs guns, you know, if this happens.
	So I guess in a lot of respects, Dunblane was a Sandy Hook that worked on our country.
	Right.
	We were primed for it.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Well, interesting.
	See, and I imagine it's the same for you guys there as it is, say, here in Canada, where we look at guns more as like a utilitarian thing, like they're tools, right?
	Like you need it to go hunting or maybe you want to go sports shooting or something like that.
	But we don't, you know, we don't have like a gun culture, as you say.
	You know, we don't advertise guns.
	We don't, you know, it's just not like that.
	It's a completely different scenario.
	There's no purchase of guns in the UK, nor was there prior to 1996 for self-protection, for example, or home invasion, you know.
	There was a criminal element that had guns, which still does, because the UK, and I say UK laws, actually, in Scotland we have different laws.
	We are under Roman law in Scotland, which is entirely different from England, which is under common law.
	There's no such thing in Scotland.
	Whatever was developed in Westminster by the government had to be adapted and reinforced again in Scotland.
	But the criminal element that had guns have as much access or as little access as they had before.
	So you're not picking out people like Thomas Hamilton, for example.
	And that's the argument everywhere.
	I mean, even here in Canada, we had, there was a huge deal about a gun registry that a previous liberal government wanted to bring into effect.
	And I mean, when you think about it, I mean, to, you know, to someone living in an apartment in the middle of Toronto, Ontario, I mean, it may sound like a wonderful idea, but in reality, it's fanciful.
	It's ridiculous because who's going to register the guns they already own?
	Are criminals going to, you know, Are criminals willingly going to file the paperwork to register guns that are perhaps illegal?
	I mean, the only people you touch in something like that are legal, honest, law-abiding citizens.
	Absolutely, yeah.
	And really, if a criminal is going to have intent upon hurting someone with a firearm, of course they're not going to register it.
	No.
	Well, and you know what?
	I have to be honest, and I've mentioned this before to To friends and even people in the middle of this chat here, but, um, and I apologize to any Americans.
	I may offend, but the simple matter is even without guns, you guys just keep killing each other.
	It's true.
	You know, I, I, I'm baffled how often I, you know, we'll turn on one of these crime shows and say, Oh, you know, a well-to-do doctor in a suburban neighborhood, uh, had a mistress.
	And instead of getting divorced, he kills his wife.
	Like we just, it just seems like a viable option down there.
	Well, I guess we could kill him.
	Well, I mean, before the invention of firearms even came about, I mean, people were killing each other left and right.
	Right.
	Not to say that it's right, but I mean, that's true.
	Very true.
	I have a friend in the UK who tells me that if I, you know, he could send me articles just about every day out of the paper about somebody hacking someone up with a machete.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Knife crime is huge here.
	Knife crime, yeah, exactly.
	Um, you know, I took all these notes down in order as I was watching your video, so, like, in keeping with your first video, um, something that really struck me was the fact that all the parents were taken to a local hospital to view the bodies of their loved ones that very afternoon, or that very evening or afternoon, correct?
	That's right, yeah, that evening, Stirling Royal Infirmary, the morgue, well, mortuary, yeah.
	Right.
	Yep.
	And I was mentioning to you before we went to air that I don't think my video came out before you made your first one, but I compiled a whole list of examples where it doesn't appear that in your video you say that Newtown parents were shown photographs instead of being able to personally view the bodies, but astonishingly enough, they didn't, from what I can tell, didn't even view photographs.
	All identification of victims was carried out by a third person.
	Either someone from the coroner's office or someone with law enforcement, but from what I could find in reading through the report, there were no personal identifications.
	I mean, I'm not saying it didn't come later.
	I'm not saying... I mean, there are a couple of families like the McDonald's who claim straight out they were told they wouldn't be able to see their daughter.
	Same with Gilles Rousseau, was told he wouldn't be able to see his daughter.
	The Hubbards as well, in an interview they gave to CBS, say that Scott Pelley says that this police officer Went and identified Catherine so her parents didn't have to.
	So her parents didn't have to.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I know it's a burden, but I mean, it's something you would want to do for some closure, right?
	Of course.
	I mean, there are at least three examples, like verifiable examples, where people claim they never saw their child's body.
	Not just didn't identify it, but never got to see it at all!
	That, to me, that makes it even more strange and unusual.
	It is.
	And all the others I could find, the identifications were carried out by a third party, not a parent.
	They collected photographs and, you know, personal descriptions of clothing and stuff like that, and then a third party went on and made that identification, which is just... I think that's incredible, because you can see in your videos, They discuss how the parents went and viewed the bodies at the local hospital or morgue.
	There's video in there of parents breaking down.
	It looks real.
	That's what you would expect.
	They all behaved differently.
	Some couldn't take it, some could.
	Some touched them, some didn't.
	Some kissed them, some didn't.
	What you might expect, but like you and I have spoken about before, it's like the collective sameness of the parents at Scientihook.
	It's very strange.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's something we're faced with all the time, right?
	Like we hear that time and time again from the people who would berate us for discussing this, that, you know, how can you point at their behavior and make judgments about it?
	You know, everybody grieves differently.
	Yeah.
	Well, yes, they do.
	Everybody grieves differently, but here at Sandy Hook, I mean, all the people we were allowed to see, and we weren't allowed to see all the families, like the Sues, for example, like Madeline Sue's parents.
	I have no idea what they look like.
	I've never seen any comments from them in the media, so I can't comment on how they grieve, but all the parents we were allowed to see, astonishingly enough, all seem to have, you know, they dealt with it incredibly fast.
	And in the same way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, she, he's in a better place and, you know, now we're just going to get on with Christmas and try and have a happy Christmas and... Yeah, what the hell, yeah.
	I don't know.
	And all the siblings are fine.
	Right.
	Oh, but I mean, they tell us, you know, they tell us that they're suffering, but I mean, when they drag them out to, to, you know, some sort of photo opportunity with President Obama, they all seem happy enough.
	So, Thomas Hamilton, I'm moving on to number two now.
	This guy was quite the character, eh?
	He ran, like, boys clubs?
	Yeah, he was a pedophile.
	There's plenty of evidence of that, and I've heard with my own ears as well.
	But never charged or convicted with anything like that, though, right?
	Never a complaint even acted upon by the police.
	Which begs the question, was he a procurer of photographs of children for high up elite people?
	But the Scout movement, for example, wasn't really through his sexual behaviour towards children, but he was a very abusive man as well.
	Sadistic is the word that people use to describe him.
	So he was banned from the Scouts.
	And of course he had great resentments about that.
	He was banned for life.
	He would never be let in.
	My father was a scoutmaster and I had heard of him prior to Dunblane because they were looking out for this man, you know?
	So he went off and started his own boys clubs, which he was not qualified to do.
	He started what was a gymnastics club and I can only surmise that that's because The boys would have to be scantily dressed, and he only took boys.
	He was only interested in boys.
	Boys of a certain weight, height, age, you know?
	Yeah.
	The man had a Hasselblad camera, for God's sake, to take these photographs that you and I will never see, because they're in the evidence now, and they're locked away.
	But how did he afford a Hasselblad camera, which is like the most expensive camera in the world, you know?
	But anyway.
	So that's who he was, and there was talk at the time that he wanted to use Dunblane Gymnasium, or that he possibly had used Dunblane Gymnasium, and that people didn't want to admit that after the massacre.
	But he was also linked to another school in Dunblane, which is a military school called Victoria School, where there's Lots and lots of stories of abuse, child sexual abuse come out of, you know?
	And he used that gymnasium frequently.
	And these are children of military people, high up in the Scottish ranks, you know?
	Judges, lawyers, you know, that sort of thing.
	So it all links in to how and why he became and would be a perfect patsy for the massacre, you know?
	No, what about the staff?
	The staff at Dunblane Primary School?
	Surely they would know about this, right?
	If it was being used in the gymnasium.
	They didn't know him.
	None of the teachers at Dunblane Primary School knew him.
	So if he did use the gym, which is, you know, I can't find verified evidence of that.
	Just people talking.
	If he did use that gymnasium, it would have been at night time.
	And the only person that would have known that he was using it, because the boys clubs happened at night, you see, would have been Ron Taylor, the headmaster.
	Right.
	Because he, yeah, he basically rented, um, you know, like, um, local facilities, like, I guess, government owned facilities.
	I don't know exactly what the term is.
	We'd call them like crown facilities or something like that around here, right?
	We would too, yeah.
	And he did.
	When he was rejected, he would write lots and lots of letters and complaints, you know, but the information that Central Scotland Police already had on him, complaints from parents about how he treated the boys, how he sexually abused the boys, you know, none of them, whenever, and it was usually a younger, newer officer that tried to investigate this, and they were shut down immediately.
	So it tells me There could have been planning in what happened, you know, possibly.
	And he did.
	I mean, he was shut down.
	The complaints did shut down his boys clubs for a short time, but he fought that.
	Well, see, that's one of the things in the second video that I talk about is that the media said immediately after Dunblane that society had no power to protect itself, you know.
	Um, or didn't do anything about him, or that he was okay.
	And that's, it's just nonsense.
	You know, society took into their own hands what the police were not doing.
	So, for example, the scouts said, no way, you're not coming into our society, you know?
	And individual premises would say, no way, we don't want you here.
	Uh, so we did what the police refused to do as a society, you know?
	And there's, are you, sorry, go ahead.
	Nope.
	No, I was just going to say if he had ever been convicted, you couldn't even before 1996, you can't get a gun if you have a record at all.
	Right, right.
	So he wouldn't have had any guns.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Well we're coming up on the bottom of the hour here.
	We're going to take our first break.
	We have lots and lots of stuff to get to this evening.
	When we come back I want to talk a little bit about, like kind of give it a description so people can, like from Zero's question, I mean these boys clubs were basically incredibly private from what I could tell from your videos and from the video, I don't know where that video came from.
	I assume local media promoting his boys club because you could see them all in there running around with their shirts off and He seemed like the only adult on the scene providing any sort of supervision.
	We'll talk a little bit more about that as we continue our discussion with Photo via Pops and her examination of the Dunblane and Sandy Hook coincidences.
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	We are chatting with Photo Via Pops tonight.
	She is apparently the only person on the entire planet who was able to see the similarities between Sandy Hook and Dunblane, and she put together a fantastic video series that I can't recommend highly enough if you are a researcher at all interested in Sandy Hook.
	Once you watch this series and see some of the incredible similarities, I think you'll be just as blown away as I was.
	That video that I was talking about before we went to break photo of Thomas Hamilton and one of his boys clubs, was that a local media produced thing kind of promoting the boys clubs?
	Well, that came from a program that came out about 10 days after the massacre, so I can only presume that was gathered from his home.
	Uh, the police were in his home less than an hour after the massacre, which is interesting in itself.
	How did they know?
	Did they know to go there, you know, before he was even declared dead?
	He wouldn't have been declared dead by that time.
	And, uh, I could, the only place I can think of that it would have come from was his home.
	And it's what they could show us, you know?
	So if I remember the video clip, like it, It looks like he's in that video, right?
	So does that mean somebody else would have been shooting it for him?
	Shooting it, yeah.
	And it sounds to me like he did that every time he had a boys club, you know.
	Oh, wow.
	He himself took the photographs with the Hasselblad that I was describing that we won't ever see, you know.
	So who knows?
	Who knows who he gave them to?
	Who knows who he sold them to?
	Who knows who he had in his... what they found, you know, when they went there?
	Judging by what you included continuing on with that second video, it looks like there may have been some serious pressure put on certain people by very powerful people to not spend a whole lot of time examining this.
	I don't know if I noticed it the first time, but you have a clip of an interview with Sandra Utley, who wrote Dunblane Unburied.
	Did she marry McNorth, or did they just wind up dating?
	Her original connection to Dunblane is that she was working as a paramedic that day in Callendar.
	And she wasn't actually in the gymnasium, but she relieved the shift for the people who did attend, the dead and the injured.
	And I guess she was as passionate as the rest of the country about gun control after what had happened and what she witnessed her colleagues go through.
	You know, the trauma and etc.
	And what happened is she got involved in the gun lobby and met Macnorth, a parent of one of the children, who was really the voice of the gun lobby at that time in the UK.
	And yeah, she started to work for him.
	She gave up her job and started to work for him as sort of a secretary.
	And yeah, they did eventually get together.
	They weren't married.
	She had, she was involved, became involved with him and spent a total of seven years in, you know, learning about Dunblane and being in that environment and being in the aftermath, et cetera.
	She didn't start to write until all that was over, you know, when she had, sorry.
	No, I was just going to say in that, in that interview that you play in, in your second video, she, I mean, I don't know if I missed it the first time, but it really struck me as astonishing this time.
	She says, at the time of committing the massacre, speaking of Thomas Hamilton, at the time of committing the massacre, if indeed he did commit the massacre.
	That's right, yeah.
	Like that seems like a pretty astonishing statement from someone so closely tied to not only the event in terms of her job, but to one of the parents.
	Indeed, yeah.
	Like she didn't make that statement until October of 2006, you know.
	Her book came out in the March of 2006, and in the lead up to producing the book, or getting someone to print it, she was hassled to no end, and she's sure that it was by MI5, which is the equivalent of the FBI in America.
	She had websites that went down all the time, I'm sure you're familiar.
	You know, she lost all her All her stuff, all the time.
	So she was really targeted, of course.
	But this book, which I bought a few months ago, you could read a lot of it online, but I just actually, I've got it next to me right now, came along with a beautiful note from someone who was obviously a minister living in a vicarage.
	And it said, thank you for your purchase of this book.
	Further uncovering what was obviously a huge cover-up in Dunblane.
	So, you know, our country has moved forward from 1996 and people are waking up and thank God for Sandra Utley, you know?
	I wouldn't have had access to this information if she hadn't done all the Freedom of Information Act requests and discovered the anomalies and inconsistencies and yes, her work.
	Yeah, amazing.
	Amazing.
	So in some ways it even more closely resembles Sandy Hook than we thought.
	In terms of potential quote-unquote conspiracy.
	Yeah in terms of what you and I do and the people who ask questions about Sandy Hook, definitely.
	I see her, she must have done all that alone though.
	She mustn't have anybody to talk about.
	In fact it made her leave Dumbling because Dunblane was the very place where you couldn't ask those questions.
	They didn't want to hear it, you know.
	They were so affected by it and so close to it.
	There's nothing else that they could see other than the official story, you know.
	So she left.
	She went back to England.
	She's from England.
	Wow.
	For those who may be wondering, we are still having difficulties trying to connect up north of the 49th to this conversation tonight, which is So, so sad because she has worked so, so hard on putting this together and compiling information and whatnot for tonight, and I know she wanted to be here, so hopefully she can get her technical difficulties sorted out post-haste.
	Zero, did you have anything you wanted to interject, or anything you wanted to question Odo about?
	Well, you were saying earlier about this man being a patsy, and I think that's rather substantial when you consider that This guy would probably be in the know to other people that would be involved with that sort of ring.
	And so if he were to be not only in the know, but let's say he were a blabbermouth or he had a vindictive, a reason to betray another person.
	I mean, that may have been the reason that he was set up as the Patsy.
	You're spot on, that's exactly it.
	It's the information that we will never have access to in our lifetime because of the post-Dumblane massacre.
	The files on Thomas Hamilton, as well as a lot of police files and witness statements, are sealed for 100 years.
	They will not be released until 2096.
	And all that information is probably and likely in there.
	And that's the questions that That Sandra Utley had, and I have, and people of Scotland have that question it.
	Was he blackmailing them?
	Or did they blackmail him?
	What did he actually know?
	What was actually found in his home after he either shot himself or was shot?
	It's like there's too much that doesn't make sense.
	Like Sandy Hook, eh?
	There's too much that doesn't make sense to not ask a question.
	And there's a lot less than Sandy Hook, actually, you know.
	But, for example, there was only one witness to Thomas Hamilton allegedly shooting himself.
	And that witness was a student teacher by the name of David Scott, and he was allegedly in the art classroom.
	And if you look at the aerial photograph of Dunblane massacre that is taken directly out of the final report, which was called the Cullen Inquiry, there's no list of the art class there.
	So none of us can see what he was looking at.
	And you would think he would be the person to call to the inquiry to get to the truth of the matter.
	He was not called, he was not asked, and he was not there.
	I mean, that's bizarre to me.
	You know, the one person that saw him shoot himself is not asked to be part of the inquiry.
	Very strange.
	Very strange.
	Well, the one thing that Dunblane at least has going for it is a possible theory as to why.
	I mean, that's the one thing we're still missing from Sandy Hook.
	There is no real one reason why, and there may not have been just one reason there either.
	I've always said it, but when events like this happen, I don't think the people who conduct them do them for simply one reason.
	I think they try and kill as many birds as one stone as they possibly can.
	Actually, you had a comment very similar to that on your YouTube channel.
	Yeah, it was a great comment, and the question that someone asked was, why not just take out Hamilton, you know?
	Which was a good question, and the answer was brilliant.
	I thought it was brilliant.
	And the person said it was because Dunblane was killing three birds with one stone, you know?
	And that would be to get rid of Hamilton, to enable them to lock away the information that Hamilton had for 100 years.
	I mean, my God, you don't even get war stuff that's, you know, things that happen in wars are only locked away for 30 years.
	JFK was only locked away for 50 years, you know?
	And the third reason would be to elicit disarming the population in the UK.
	So I couldn't agree more with that.
	I can't come up with anything else.
	So wonderful comment.
	Yeah.
	Well, in here, I mean, the, you know, the possible reasons are varied.
	I mean, everything from, you know, increased Increased focus on mental health issues, gun control, pharmaceutical going along with mental health issues.
	You know, we're having serious troubles now sort of defending our right to freedom of speech.
	We seem to be attacked on, you know, at every turn regarding that.
	I mean, not to mention here we have a woman who was collecting You know, upwards of $300,000 plus a year in alimony.
	I mean, there's a good opportunity to get rid of a huge drain on your financial situation.
	Yeah, with Nancy Lanza here.
	Yeah, you know, because Peter was involved with General Electric and their tax division, which had their own set of problems.
	I mean, people from his own division were getting caught up in, you know, I'm going to have a brain stall now on it.
	Now, Zero, do you remember what it was?
	That huge banking... LIBOR?
	LIBOR, there, thank you very much.
	Woo, boy, am I glad you're around.
	Yeah, LIBOR, because there were members of the GE tax team that were taken down in that.
	So, you know, how far away was Peter from that?
	There could have been many reasons for why this happened, gun control just being one.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And now we're seeing different connections to figures like Hillary Clinton and Daniel Right, yeah, you did a great video there on Wheeler, right?
	Yes.
	Yeah, with a picture of her and Hillary Clinton.
	But I mean, we knew that back in her days as Francine Lobos, she was working for the Democratic National Committee or whatever it was, working for some faction of that, right?
	Right.
	Well, I thought it was interesting that on her blog, she left a message on that same post that says, Uh, ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States.
	And then she happens to appear in a, um, a presidential address where she says, as you notice, I'm not the president.
	Yeah, but I'm going to be, but I play, but I play what on TV.
	Yeah.
	That's astonishing.
	Yeah.
	That, that whole, that whole Wheeler thing.
	I find that fascinating just how deep do those connections run, right?
	Like I can see you.
	Never mind, we'll save that for another time.
	I want to talk more about Dunblane.
	Where was I here?
	We're still in part two, right?
	Because I want to make sure I go through this in order, because I really like this stuff.
	Hamilton also had some, again, something that, you know, we might be able to tie to Newtown in terms of Masonic connections, because Hamilton's grandfather was like some super grand poobah in the order, right?
	He was, yeah.
	Until he died in the year 2000, right after Thomas died.
	So the thinking is that Thomas probably was in the Masons himself.
	It was not known in 1996 but it makes a hell of a lot of sense now that it's all coming out after After the death of Jimmy Savile, really, there's an explosion in this country, and it's abhorrent, you know?
	It's abhorrent what's been going on.
	Well, and the only way something like that could be so pervasive and so little known about it is simply because it stretches to the highest levels of power.
	Those are the only people who could keep something that large that quiet.
	Exactly.
	Exactly that, yeah.
	Begs the question about what I was saying earlier, like why were police not allowed to interrogate Thomas Hamilton?
	Why were they not allowed to investigate the claims that people were making, you know, prior to the 13th of March?
	Because the police and the people in power said so, you know?
	But yeah.
	Well, you have a quote in in your second video from Lord Burton, who was also like a former grandmaster or something of of the Masons and something.
	The Speculative Society.
	That's a group of.
	Yeah, he said, I've learned of an apparent connection between prominent members of the legal establishment.
	So you're talking about QCs, advocates, judges involved in the inquiry.
	and the secretive, speculative society. It was a society that was formed within Edinburgh University
	and that's quite a common theme across the UK, through Masonic connections. So he said,
	I accept that there may be a link by that route. And you had read what happened to him after that,
	after saying that in public, you know.
	Right, exactly.
	Well, he goes on to say, I tried repeatedly to raise concerns about the inquiry during my time in the Lords, and I was bullied and threatened by powerful peers loyal to the Conservative government of the day, who warned me of dire consequences if I continued to embarrass them.
	That's correct, yeah.
	That's it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Dangerous inquiries.
	But do you know the thing about inquiries?
	The inquiry in Dunblane was a 1921 inquiry act into huge events like this that either disturb or threaten or, you know, are to be questioned by the public, not by the victims, not by the parents of the victims, you know.
	I'm not saying they're not important, but this inquiry was for the public.
	And the police had gathered about 1,200 statements about Dunblane.
	And from 1,200 people they had gathered statements from.
	And Lord Cullen, who was head of the inquiry, asked 171 people questions.
	That's it.
	To me, that's not allowing the public to know.
	And also, Each faction of the Dunblane Massacre was represented.
	Everybody was represented, except the public.
	So me and my country people and my friends, we were not represented there.
	The Crown, of course, being Lord Cullen, was represented by the Crown, so there's a conflict of interest there to begin with, you know?
	The parents were represented by different lawyers.
	The victims were represented by spokespeople.
	Everybody was represented except the public.
	So I find that really telling, you know, in terms of a cover-up.
	So.
	Wow.
	I just, I'm stunned, you know, when I think about the locking down of information and the next one I want to touch on is the issue of four handguns that was in your third video.
	Tell us what the official result was in terms of the weapons he used.
	The official story is that he had four handguns and a holster around his waist with room for four handguns.
	The guns that they said he had and used were Smith & Wessons.
	But eyewitnesses who arrived on the scene, who of course were not invited into the Cullen Inquiry, who were first on the scene, say that they were only two handguns, one at each side of his body, and they were Browning pistols.
	You know, so I don't understand, you know, unless there's an agenda behind that for gun control, I don't understand why you would say something different from what it was.
	And Thomas Hamilton himself was killed with a Smith & Weston, so that could have been the reason, not a Browning pistol.
	Oh, I see.
	Okay.
	Well, and we get the same thing.
	Ryan, if you could maybe grab onto clip number 12 there in our list and maybe zip it ahead.
	I think you've got to queue it up to about the one-minute mark and we'll have a run with that.
	But same with Sandy Hook.
	If you read through the reports, there are varying descriptions of just how many handguns he was carrying at the time.
	Because there was supposedly, I mean he was supposed to have two, Adam Lanza, two handguns and an AR-15 rifle.
	But in the report you can find descriptions of a police officer describing that there's a pistol on the floor, a pistol and a holster, and a pistol in his pocket.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	And if you see this clip that we're about to fire up here from Pete Williams from NBC News, We'll see that there was another report, and it's astonishing how similar this one is to the one in Dunblane.
	Go ahead and run that, Ryan.
	We're following this story from many different areas and locations.
	Pete Williams, our Chief Justice Correspondent, has got some new information as well.
	Pete, good morning.
	Matt, good morning to you.
	This continues to be a very complex investigation and there's a lot of contradictory information out there, but there is some new information this morning from a couple of federal officials and state officials.
	They say now that there were actually four handguns recovered inside the school, not just two as we were initially told.
	Four handguns and apparently only handguns that were taken into the school.
	We knew that Adam Lanza, the man said to be the gunman here, also had a assault style AR-15.
	Yeah, you can fade us out of there.
	But isn't that interesting, eh?
	I mean, here is the Chief Justice Correspondent for NBC News.
	The guy has contacts all over the place.
	I mean, all over, throughout the Justice Department, police officers, FBI, you name it.
	He knows him.
	And here, it's almost like somebody handed him the wrong script, gave him the Dunblane script.
	Yeah, that's so similar.
	It's so similar.
	What happened?
	I think it was the last part or second last part that you would have watched or 7 or 8, I can't remember.
	But I mean as we know that that ultimately turned out to be completely false according to the final report
	There were two handguns and a rifle and a shotgun that was in the trunk
	So where Pete Williams is getting his information from is is bizarre. I have no idea. Yeah, well
	The second I think it was the last part or second last part that you would have watched or seven or eight
	I can't remember it was William Begg Dr. William Begg, yeah
	Right, he was the one who, he was the one that did a quote-unquote fact-finding mission and went to Dunblane, right?
	Yeah, empirical data had to go overseas, really?
	I mean, you couldn't, people don't shoot each other in the States, I don't know, but anyway.
	I'm pretty sure they do.
	But why, why would he look, the, as far as I can tell, the hearing was about assault rifles, so why would he look at Dunblane. Exactly. Yeah. When this was brought out
	for discussion and the representing groups to discuss it, where was that meeting held for the
	topic of the Dunblane massacre?
	Sorry, Zero. Could you rephrase that? When the different representing groups
	that we were getting together to discuss...
	I've got you, I've got you, I apologise.
	Where did they meet?
	They met in Stirling Town Hall, which is like the nearest city to Dunblane.
	And that was, that was where the inquiry was held just two months after, which is far too soon, you know, two months after the massacre in March.
	So it was set up like a courtroom type area, but there were so many people.
	It's called the Albert Hall in Stirling.
	I'm looking at the events in Sandy Hook and then there's the number of characters that their interest transferred over into the Hartford legislative.
	I'm rather interested in seeing how their connections also come through, because if I could get more information about the Dunblane Massacre, I'm pretty sure that I would see a similarity in the links of these different people.
	Oh, well, we should hook up and I'll give you anything you need, you know?
	Just out of interest, is Hartford like the biggest town near Sandy Hook?
	Well, it's where they're doing the FOIA hearings, for one thing.
	Whenever this big discussion of the bills that are coming together, a lot of it goes down in Hartford.
	Okay, I understand.
	But yeah, I can give you everything you need to know.
	Well, it'd be interesting to see just how many more there are.
	just more about this end, but I think I was hoping, well I did get that feedback when
	the videos first went out, that oh my goodness, people did see the similarities I was pointing
	out, which is great.
	Well it would be interesting to see just how many more there are, I mean perhaps if we
	all combine and do a little more digging on this we may find that there are some similarities
	that run even deeper than we may imagine.
	I know it could be some rabbit hole, eh?
	Yeah, it really could, because we are still loathe to come up with a reason for why Adam
	Lanza would do something like this.
	There has still been no motive presented.
	For why this young man, I mean, apart from he's crazy, I mean, that's what we always hear, right?
	Just a lone crazy nut.
	But apart from that, there has been zero... North!
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	Welcome back to our number two of the Resistance Roundtable on this eighth day of March 2016.
	I'm your host, Swan.
	By my co-host up north of the 49th, Zero Three, and our guest tonight, the creator of Was Sandy Hook, based on the Dunblane story, a nine-part series that you can catch on her YouTube channel.
	The channel is Photo Via Pop.
	That's Photo, as you would expect it to be spelled, Via, V-I-A, Pop, P-O-P, all one word, Photo Via Pop, and you can watch all nine parts of Was Sandy Hook, based on the Dunblane story, and we are chatting with its creator tonight, and we are glad to finally have up north of the 49th with us!
	I had to backdoor to try and get in.
	Oh my gosh, Skype updates.
	It's like, are you kidding me?
	Okay, I just threw a link in the chat for Photo's homepage on YouTube.
	Check her out.
	Yeah, she's really good.
	Yeah, so have you at least been able to hear our conversations this evening while you've been struggling to get online?
	A little bit.
	I've been off and on.
	I did want to say, you know, I was astounded.
	I had mentioned in the chat room, you know, just astounded at the differences.
	And, you know, it was brilliant the way that you took the parents' reaction from Dunblane to the parents' reaction from Sandy Hook.
	And I mean, just such a difference between, you know, we're forgiving of the gunman and the other ones.
	I mean, they would rather not state What they would have liked to do to him, you know?
	Oh, yeah, you picked that up.
	That's, yeah, so true.
	So true.
	And we were talking earlier about the body language of the parents and the difference in that, you know, the fact that the Dumbling people, they didn't want to look at the camera.
	They weren't used to that.
	They didn't want Mike shoved in their faces.
	And, you know, and all that seemed very easy for the Sandy Hook parents.
	So, but that's, yeah.
	You also notice when they're talking, when they're relating their story, when they're asked 20 years later to relate their story, you can see them being wistful, right?
	Like you can see them sort of remembering, you can tell that they're relaying to you an event that occurred to them.
	Whereas with the Sandy Hook, and sometimes you'll even hear one say, was it Eileen?
	I'm not sure, one of them said, no, it was the gal who was in the gym whose name was Maybe.
	You know, she says, you know, I can't even tell you what order it happened in.
	You know, I'm not so sure.
	It was just crazy.
	And then you get people like Caitlin Roig, who seem to remember every, every instance.
	There's nothing about it.
	There's no question you could ask her where she goes, gee, you know, I don't really know.
	She always has an answer.
	Yeah, you're right.
	And she doesn't pause to think about it.
	No, no.
	Yeah, there's that's precisely what I'm getting at.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the other point was, is I like the way that you had put the question to the parents, you know, or just the similarities in the situation.
	The little girl put her hands On the window.
	And then the rest of them said, oh, I had hands on the window of my car and scratched in the frost and she put her hands on the window.
	You know, the comparisons of the stories were almost identical.
	Parent to parent to parent.
	It was just brilliant.
	You did a great job.
	Yeah, I'm glad you noticed that symbolism.
	And when they were talking to that TV presenter, it's not her child.
	She never lost someone in the massacre, but just to she Just in recalling that she's moved to tears and you can hear in her voice that it's genuine because her voice changes tone you know it's hard for her to speak and she's saying I promised I wouldn't do this but she went back to that experience which you don't get you don't get in town.
	Well, one of the videos that you featured was the other parent from Sandy Hook whose child didn't go to school that day, and it was really interesting because the kid's standing there and he kind of lost script of saying, you know, everything's wonderful and great, and it was like... I know, right?
	And then this big, gleaming smile comes on his face.
	Yeah.
	And so much of it we haven't seen of that specific video.
	I hadn't seen it really until I watched your series.
	And I thought it really interesting that even the mom had dropped the script and then had to be reminded.
	And, you know, to throw out the word for word.
	Well, she said, because at the very end of her interview, she says something to the effect of, like, I think she's describing herself in the first person, you know, saying, you know, and then you're scared, you're wondering, is my son going to come home?
	And, well, I mean, not my son, because I took him out of school that day, sort of thing, right?
	As if she had to, as if she had to kind of catch herself and, right, right, right.
	My kid didn't go to school that day, right?
	Yeah, you know, it just dawned on her, oh, jeez, you know, I dropped the script there.
	That's an aversion to gingerbread.
	Right.
	And in terms of the hands on the handprints on the window, I mean, the correlation in Sandy Hook is the story by Lynn MacDonald, how the next day, December 15th, she has a shower that morning and gets out of the shower and notices that the steam from the shower has fogged up the bathroom window.
	And there on the window is this heart that her daughter Grace would have drawn the day before.
	And she relates this story just a few days later to Anderson Cooper, and she's just beaming when she's telling the story.
	You know, that's such a sign from grace.
	Oh, you know, and I'm thinking, man, if that was me, first of all, I wouldn't have got out of bed the next day.
	Like I wouldn't have got out of bed for days, let alone had a shower, thought to have a shower.
	But if I would have seen that, I would have collapsed in a pile on the bathroom floor.
	Even in an ordinary household, who has their bathroom window low enough for a five-year-old, six-year-old to be able to draw a full heart?
	I mean, nobody.
	Okay, well now you're just being too logical.
	I'm stuck on the emotion here for just a moment, right?
	As a human being, as a parent who just lost your child the day before, wouldn't that just rip your heart apart?
	Like, oh, there's the last sign or symbol from my now-deceased child.
	Yeah.
	And when you relay that story later to someone else, you will feel the same emotions that you felt at the time.
	And if she was smiling when she saw that beaming, then she's insane.
	Swan, according to Caitlin Roig, if you question this, there's a special place in hell for you.
	Yeah.
	Oh, I'm gonna burn.
	I'm gonna burn.
	I hope there's a widescreen Television and a pool table.
	Yeah, the McDonald's interview with Anderson Cooper was on the 18th of December 2020.
	Four days later.
	It wasn't even four full days.
	And as you say, yeah, who could talk?
	Who could talk?
	Yeah.
	Well, all the years, all the years later, and even in the interview lately, that what was it, Annie?
	What's her name?
	Amy?
	The survivor, she got shot.
	Yeah, Amy Adams is her name.
	Yes, Amy.
	She's relating, you know, what happened then.
	She was, what, six years old?
	And she's still, yeah.
	She doesn't remember the details, but she knows she lost half her class, you know?
	And he's saying, I thought he was appalling, Piers Morgan, but he's got a huge gun agenda, eh?
	Because he's asking these questions and I know what it's like to be her to a certain extent because she's Scottish, that's all.
	Not because of what she's been through.
	But we don't... You wouldn't talk like that in a Scottish interview.
	And he's saying, do you feel... You know, of course she feels for her classmates.
	My God, that can be assumed.
	You know, that she thinks about them and that they're now gone.
	Does she need to be asked?
	But yeah, I was glad...
	I wasn't glad she showed the emotion, but you can see it just evoked it right away, you know?
	And conversely, if you haven't seen part three of this series of videos, make sure you go watch part three.
	As soon as this show's done, go watch it.
	There's a segment in there where, you know, Lynn MacDonald just seems like she's just shoveling out bullshit.
	Like all this nonsensical kind of these platitudes about happiness and forgiveness and And while she's speaking, you begin to turn the speed up on her voice, and it slowly gets faster and faster and faster.
	And in the background, you've got Julie Andrews, and I think it's a few of my favorite things.
	And then right near the end, it's the, and now I don't feel so bad.
	And I mean, she's just got this huge, beaming smile on her face, and it looks so surreal and ridiculous.
	And I just, I lost it watching it.
	Freaking hilarious.
	Now, I will say that over time, they're acting It has gotten better, but like I've said before, it seems to be with a lot of these people, they don't have the grief of losing a loved one.
	It seems to be the grief of the weight coming down on their conscience.
	Yeah, possibly.
	I think a lot of it has to do with us calling them on it.
	It's not a natural reaction what they're doing.
	It's not natural stories coming from their mouths.
	It's just, you know, we get into a whole gambit on the whole troll factor.
	I mean, none of this is naturally done by parents in grief.
	Right.
	Well, you know, the only thing that, you know, initially you try and come up with scenarios like you try and make it you try and create a scenario that at least makes the reactions make sense.
	And the only one I could really think of that made any sense at all is if these children had died sometime well previous to this event.
	I have thought about that as well, yeah.
	Right, because, I mean, sometimes you can catch some wistfulness in them when they talk about their kids, and you think, but you're so disconnected from what we would expect in terms of, like, you know, a reaction like that, so close to the event especially, but, you know, the only thing I think of was, you know, maybe they died, maybe that's the connection of these people, maybe, you know, maybe all their children had some sort of terminal disease.
	Like, these are the things you think about to try and help you make sense of it, right?
	Maybe they all met in a cancer care center or maybe Francine Wheeler, maybe they lost their son sometime and maybe she's the instigating factor and somebody fed them a line of nonsense about do something for your country and let your children's lives have meaning or something.
	In this, at least your children will forever be remembered as heroes instead of You know, just lying dying in a hospital bed or something.
	I don't know, but that is the only thing I could come up with to justify those reactions.
	Because it covers both of them, right?
	It covers why they're not so sad and why they're happy.
	Because they feel like they're genuinely doing something that will, you know, give some permanency to their children and their memories.
	I don't know.
	Have you ever wondered if these people were a part of a movement That essentially they were telling themselves or to each other that they were being a part of a new future where there would be no violence and no weapons and that sort of thing.
	Patriotism is a huge deal in the United States.
	It's like the U.S.' 's, you know, primary religion, patriotism.
	And I think you could play on a lot of people down there by waving that in their face.
	Yeah, but this is patriot, you know.
	And that's Ryan's word, or patri-fake.
	Patri-fake, right, yeah.
	Well, it is an international hub for the United States, and that's kind of a reason I could understand that sort of influence being there.
	When you say it, what do you mean by it?
	The Connecticut area.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, there's no doubt.
	Many multinationals, weapon manufacturers, all sorts of stuff fall through Connecticut, right?
	With lots of deep, deep ties to the federal government in many various ways.
	Defense, you know, especially, maybe not especially, but, you know, banking, defense, I mean, those are two big ones, right?
	I was just commenting to the chat room that, you know, nobody seemed to know them outside of their circles and the fact that Veronique was number five on the, what was it?
	No, no, number one.
	Number one.
	She was in the top five, listed number one.
	As one of the most prominent Jewish influences?
	The most influential Jew in America.
	That is the direct title from that magazine article from the cover.
	There's the top 50 most influential Jews in America, and then underneath that there is a picture of five people, and above that the caption, the top five.
	What magazine is this?
	Well, you know, I'd love to show you, but for some reason the article has completely disappeared off insane media.
	I shit you not, the article is completely gone.
	It's gone.
	The article I wrote, I mean, what kind of a name for an article to disappear, right?
	Sandy Hook, Free Speech Battleground.
	And it's gone.
	Like, I mean, it's gone.
	Every piece of it is gone.
	The comments are gone, the article's gone, the pictures are gone.
	Gone, gone, gone.
	It was in the jewishjournal.com, and I'll drop it in the chat room.
	Yeah, so I have the body of the text and everything, I'll just have to put it back together and put it back on the blog, but yeah, the Jewish Journal or whatever.
	But yeah, the number one most influential Jew in America, according to them, is Veronique Posner, a woman who, you know, from what I can see, her only claim to fame seems to be being connected to an alleged mass murder, so I'm not sure how that happens.
	Well, there's also her brother, which is a Vatican attorney.
	Vatican attorney for the Holy See, yeah.
	I have a Jewish family.
	I don't know.
	She's not Jewish?
	I thought she was Jewish.
	Who, Veronique?
	Yeah.
	Well, if she wasn't originally, I'm sure she must have at some point, what do you call it?
	Changed allegiances?
	Yeah.
	Converted.
	Converted.
	That's it.
	Converted.
	Yeah, I love the way she says that.
	You got the translator here, no?
	Yeah.
	Well, at least we didn't need a translator tonight.
	Tony was poking... Tony was giving you the gears on Insane Media's Facebook page yesterday asking if we were going to have a translator prepared for tonight, but I don't think it's been necessary in the slightest.
	That was really funny though.
	Yeah.
	Let's keep going with these similarities because there's lots more.
	This Victoria Porteous, why don't you tell us about her?
	Yeah, I will.
	Well, like in Sandy Hook, she was a child in the Dumbling class that pretended she was dead and that's how she saved herself.
	Out of interest, well, you maybe want to talk about the similarities to Sandy Hook first, but I do have Like I said on the last show, her parents gave her statement to the police on her behalf and I do have that statement and we could link that into Dunblane but if you want to just highlight the Sandy Hook similarities first you can go ahead and do that.
	No, no either or that's fine go ahead.
	Yeah?
	I've got it to read to you because it's one of the redacted things that kind of gives gives you some insight into why Widom Blaine may have been a cover-up.
	So her parents told the police.
	Well, first of all, they were shown the crime scene after the massacre.
	All the parents.
	And I think that's another similarity as well.
	And her parents in particular, Victoria Porteous, that pretended that she was dead, said they noticed two bullet holes in the wall We're behind where Thomas Hamilton would have been found and there were no other bullet holes in that area and that's worth remembering for a bit later on.
	So that's that's the beginning of their statement there were no bullet holes in the wall and I noticed there were quite a few bullet holes in the other walls which would confirm and this is where it's redacted so something is redacted after that and then it said that he fired into the walls at the bottom end of the gym.
	Now, that's coming from her five-year-old child and the parents' observations when shown the crime scene.
	It's an amalgamation.
	So it's redacted and then they say that he fired into the walls at the bottom end of the gym where Hamilton had entered the gym.
	Now, possibly Sandra Utley's point is that They probably should have redacted the word Hamilton.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Right.
	And not whatever they did redact.
	Right, exactly, because the idea was to redact all the personal information, right?
	Well, the idea is to redact the stuff that might implicate that another person was there shooting.
	Right.
	You know, he fired Into the place where Hamilton entered.
	That can't happen simultaneously.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Oh, I do see what you're saying.
	Yeah, okay.
	Where he, from where he entered.
	Right, okay.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah.
	Gives you some indication.
	But yeah, this little girl, I don't know where she is now today.
	I don't know her story today.
	I certainly look out for her in case she ever appears in the press or So she was never named?
	She was never named in any way, obviously.
	She was named, yeah, she was Victoria... Oh, Victoria, Jesus Christ, oh my God.
	Oh, talk about your brain farts.
	Well, how come she's so hard to find?
	Like, does she not have an online presence?
	I haven't found one.
	She could be married now, though.
	Oh, that's true, yeah.
	At 25, 26.
	Um she could be traumatized from what happened to her and not want to speak out or she may be forced not to speak out because she really is the only witness.
	The rest were injured or dead and the adults were hiding in a cupboard in in the store cupboard you know?
	Because the the Sandy Hook the Sandy Hook equivalent of that was never named in any way shape or form.
	No, she wasn't, but I think I worked out who she was from the photograph by naming everybody else, but I never found her name.
	It's in one of my videos, but I could be wrong about that.
	Do you know, did you and North get together and get that clip?
	Do we have that clip of that reverend or pastor, whoever he is, describing that scene and that girl?
	Oh, I don't think so.
	I do his voice pretty well, but I don't think I'll bother.
	I'm sorry, I missed one.
	Do you happen to have any names of people who may have capitalized from the aftermath of this?
	No, there wasn't anything like that.
	Do you mean in terms of money?
	Well, I mean from selling a product or writing a book, anything like that?
	No, not... well, Sandra Utley's the only book...
	I'm sure there was official storybooks.
	I'm sure there was.
	There was a song.
	There was a song, but yeah, there was, um, they, they actually wrote to Bob Dylan and asked if they could use his song, Knock, Knock on Heaven's Door, I think it's called.
	Yeah.
	Uh, but the one, the reason they wrote to him is they wanted to change the words of the song to about Dunblane.
	And he is a notorious denier of people who want to change the words to his song, but he gave carte blanche to them.
	And where did the profits from, I assume, what happened with that song?
	Was it given away?
	Was it sold?
	And if so, where did the profits from that go?
	Well, it came out in December 1996 and it went to number one in the UK charts, which is going to generate a lot of revenue.
	And all the proceeds went to three children's charities and all the subsequent royalties from that song go to charity.
	There was nothing given to gun control or the Dunblane families or anyone else, elite or, you know, important people.
	Were they put into the monuments that went up all over the place?
	No, but three million pounds was given from America, Australia and the UK to the families in Dunblane, the victims.
	And I presume that's part of what they did with that.
	Because the other part is they built a community centre in the centre of Dunblane.
	And I know you've got loads to say about the symbolism on those monuments.
	And I don't know who created them or built them.
	It'd be artists of some type, wouldn't it?
	But maybe they didn't make the decisions about what was on them.
	The community centre, each window is dedicated to a child and there's something in the window representing that child.
	But I would presume that's where that money went to create those, the memorial garden, the memorial stone.
	But you looked into that North, didn't you?
	It's great work you do.
	A little bit.
	There are some pictures that I put in of the memorial stones that were put up.
	There seemed to be a lot of focus.
	If you don't mind showing those memorial ones, Ryan, there was a lot of focus on, same as Sandy Hook, water features, forest creatures or butterflies or, you know, there were a lot of different monuments.
	North posted the link of the pastor describing the young girl that hid or played dead to escape the carnage.
	It's in the chatroom, so if you want to just have a look in the chatroom, you can watch that video.
	It's a pretty bizarre description from this fellow, not only what he sees, or what he's seen, but how he describes it, with this kind of goofy, eerie smile on his face.
	Yeah, and the mother already has survivor's guilt.
	Right, and how long has it been?
	I think it was the day after or something.
	Yeah, after.
	Tony posted that.
	Thank you, Tony, for posting that for me.
	Oh, sorry, Tony.
	Thank you very much.
	Awesome.
	It said Sandy Hook Host, so I assumed it was one of us, but I appreciate it.
	Yes, it was terrible.
	It was just terrible.
	She was all covered in blood and I just, oh my goodness, all covered in blood.
	You didn't need it.
	So North, did you, did you have, do you guys have some stuff you want to touch on specifically?
	Cause if not, I'm just going to keep going through my list here cause I got lots of stuff.
	So if you guys want to jump in, feel free.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Just keeping on with the similarities, there's the...
	I mean, this one is bizarre, like when you listen, when you see it in video and you put them together,
	as you do in your series in, what is this, part 4?
	Part 4? No, part 5, pardon me.
	It's astonishing, the similarity between the story of Barbara Sibley,
	who shows up at the school that day because her son forgot something at home and she was bringing it to school for him,
	and what she encounters when she arrives at the front doors of the school,
	and Nora Daugherty, who also, like, the stories are bizarre.
	They are, and they both play the same role, as in, like, Nora Doherty is a volunteer nursery nurse, and I think Barbara Sibley Was something similar, wasn't she?
	Well, she has... I mean, her claim to fame really is marketing, actually.
	That's her... I don't know what she did on the side as far as volunteer work or whatnot, but, I mean, she's a professional marketer.
	Her father was a professional marketer.
	That's what they do.
	They just spread bullshit as far as they can.
	Okay.
	Well, you're right.
	The similarity, I suppose, is they're both parents with children within the school at the time.
	of the massacre or just after the massacre and their reactions could be verbatim really.
	It's one of those and also what they encounter when they when they arrive at the school because
	Sibley tells a story of um like I mean her story is on insane media I have an article about the
	interview she did with Katie Couric and the story she tells you can go have a look at it um but it's
	insane like she basically describes driving down Dickinson Drive into Sandy Hook parking lot
	and sees all these children who we can assume are running for their lives away from a crazy gunman
	And these are the kids I assume that wound up at Jean Rosen's house.
	But she doesn't like stop to ask them what's going on or where they're going or anything like that.
	She just drives right past them and heads down to the school and arrives at the front doors of the school.
	Where the huge, you know, pane of glass next to the doors has been blown out, and when she gets there, there's already another parent standing there.
	And that's the same story Nora tells.
	Yeah, that's right.
	But she also says, because I haven't read what you're referring to, but that doesn't make any sense that she says in our interview, it was quiet.
	There was such an eerie quiet, you know?
	Are there not children running and screaming?
	Right, precisely.
	And beyond that, I mean, okay, maybe the shooting stopped for a moment when you arrived, but that woman who's already been there, like, she didn't hear anything either?
	Like, how long has it been quiet?
	Yeah, oh my.
	But yeah, I mean, yeah, they almost mimic each other's words.
	Like, Nora's there, meets another parent.
	The other parent didn't know what was happening either.
	They both said to each other, something's wrong, something's different, you know, and then Nora Doherty goes into the school and that's when Barbara Sibley sort of veers off to say, but yeah, but look at the window.
	Isn't that maybe the first thing you would say if there's a giant broken window?
	Yeah, you'd think that's the first thing you'd notice.
	And I mean, you don't have to notice it for Christ's sake.
	I know.
	I mean, in the pictures, there's glass all over the sidewalk.
	Like you would have had to step on it to approach the front door.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Oh my goodness.
	I'm sorry for becoming, well, it's just so ridiculous.
	Well, obviously, it didn't happen the way that they tell us it happened, because that big window wasn't
	broken, and they broke it.
	And how many police officers went through it?
	The other ones couldn't open the door.
	You know, it's just ridiculous.
	I mean, what I just said was there was glass all over the sidewalk out in front of the front door is also interesting.
	Like if that was blasted in from outside, most of the glass would be inside the school, not outside on the sidewalk.
	One thing I still haven't received any explanation about is why were there shotgun shells inside the school building if this kid only had handguns?
	Because according to the official report, police officers were dropping live rounds as they ran around and climbed through broken windows.
	That's where they say those shells came from.
	They were dropped by law enforcement.
	That doesn't make any sense.
	They're possibly going to kill their colleagues.
	In addition to the shotgun shells, there's also AR-15 rounds that are just being dropped onto the floor.
	We're not talking about discharged rounds where the cartridges are popping out.
	We're talking about them just being thrown.
	That's very strange.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, if we want to go down a list of strange, we may have to extend this program for another couple hours.
	But I mean, Barbara Halstead and and Sally Cox hiding in a closet in the very same room where law enforcement has set up their kind of command station inside the school.
	And they're there for four hours and nobody can find them.
	Not not teams of SWAT members with police dogs, not You know, and the two women inside the closet, they don't realize at some point that those are cops outside?
	Like, they can't hear the radios going off, and them talking about, you know, victims and helping people, and... Like, it all just sounds so absurd, it's beyond belief!
	Right.
	Well, let's pick this up, because we're three minutes over on our... on our break.
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	Oh, my... No, that's okay.
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	As we continue speaking to the photo via pop tonight regarding the similarities between Dunblane and Sandy Hook.
	Apologies, producer, for skipping over.
	I was following along with a fascinating discussion going on in chat tonight.
	Our followers this evening are going on about the weapons and I lost my train of thought.
	We got some smart people in the chat room tonight.
	It sure is good to have you all with us.
	North, was there something you wanted to touch on now that we're back?
	Because I've taken pretty much an hour and a half of this, so I know you had some things you wanted to get into.
	Um, I think some of it was, uh, we covered a little bit of the monuments that were happening.
	You guys touched a little bit on the pedophilia ring that was going on.
	Uh, I don't know if we can show in the background while we talk, maybe that Sandy Hook had constructed a video on a fountain that they had made.
	It was really a strange kind of a thing.
	It was out of town.
	It was at somebody's farm.
	It was really strange, but she got grant money for it.
	And yeah, it's there was another point in your videos that kind of struck me as funny at the one year anniversary when they were all gathered at the gravesides that.
	Yeah.
	You know, and of course, we've seen them in these little jumpsuits kind of thing during the whole event.
	But a year later, they're all wearing like, well, not all of them, but pretty much most of them wearing matching kind of fur coats and very opulent.
	So must have been well worth their while for the money they got.
	And, you know, fur coats aren't cheap, I'm sure.
	And, you know, just a lot of different things in comparison when you just look at it and consider the money that's gone into the this fountain, for instance, the landscaping.
	I mean, all of this was not all of this was not just local money.
	It was federal money granted.
	You know, did they have anything like that in Dunblane?
	Not that I know of.
	Like I said, The building of that and the cost of the building of that probably came from the donations from around the world.
	Mostly from around the world, you know?
	You know why Australia might donate to that?
	Because they had their similar thing about six weeks after Dunblane in Port Arthur, you know?
	Right.
	But I think that was... I mean, I can't say for sure where the money came from to build that.
	Could have come from council as well.
	Don't suppose it would have cost that much, you know.
	Right, yeah.
	It's always similar that there are water features or that, you know, all these different monuments.
	It's interesting to me.
	I mean, you know, in the day Thousands of years ago, they'd put up monuments to kings and queens, and now it's, you know, all this money.
	You have to see a visual effect for where the money's going, I think, so it's a great way to garner more funds from people.
	I was wondering, and Blaine, did it?
	Sorry?
	I'm just saying it's part of the agenda, reinforcing the agenda, keeping it alive, and yeah.
	Great.
	I also wanted to ask, did any of the parents specifically profit off of the deaths of their children?
	No, they did not.
	And I was going to mention that a bit earlier and I'm glad you asked because a lot of them attempted to gain compensation for their experience and they are constantly knocked back.
	Constantly.
	The man that I knew whose daughter died in Dunblane, her name was Victoria, He was still our delivery man in 2009.
	That's not a man who made money, you know?
	Dunblane is an affluent place, but there were ordinary working people there too.
	So, that I know of, nobody gained that kind of wealth.
	I posted a story on the Insane Media Facebook page a couple of days ago from the Newtown Bee, and the title of the article from the Bee is Officials update status of post-1214 grants.
	And a quote from the article, Ms.
	Blanchard said that while most of the three grants, 1.3 million, 1.9 million and 3.7 million, Have been spent within the time frame periods and the district's allowing them to use up another quarter of a million that they had left unspent.
	So do the math, right?
	Like, what are we looking at there?
	There's $3.2 million, $6.9 million.
	Just there.
	That's just in that one article.
	That's not counting, you know, the $50 million that GE gave them, or the, you know, $100 million or $200 million that showed up in terms of donations and things like that.
	I mean, the money has just been pouring in non-stop into that community.
	Right.
	I wanted to mention that, you know, 28 days after the event of Dunblane, they had destroyed I don't know.
	I don't know that for sure.
	Right away, of course, they rebuilt.
	Right now, from my understanding, they're rebuilding Sandy Hook School.
	I don't know that construction started, but the estimated date of opening is supposed
	to be 2016.
	I'm wondering, has construction started?
	I don't know.
	I don't know that for sure, no.
	But I would think the weather in that part of the country would probably allow them.
	I thought it was still in construction and it's behind a lot of scaffolding and tarpaulin and I think it might have been X-Ray Ultra.
	I mean, if they've got a 2016 completion, they should probably have already broken ground,
	but I can't say for sure whether that's the case.
	I thought it had.
	I thought it was still in construction and it's behind a lot of scaffolding and tarpaulin,
	and I think it might have been X-ray Ultra.
	Do you know that person?
	I do believe they had made quite a bit of progress to the building, at least by the
	But I do believe it's still under construction, but I'd have to find out.
	Yeah.
	It's going to be quite the building when they're done, I tell you.
	The artists are the... Oh boy, another brain stall.
	The artist's rendering of what the building's going to look like is quite impressive.
	It actually kind of looks like a real modern A six-year-old's prison or something.
	It's quite astonishing.
	I wish I had a copy of it here for you to see, but you can find it online if you go look for it.
	It's quite a building.
	Should be for 50 million bucks, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and what?
	You're only going to have a few elementary kids in there?
	It's an elementary school again, is it not?
	Yeah, right.
	It only goes up to grade four or five, and this is in a town that was already thinking about tearing down Sandy Hook before this event even happened.
	And wasn't it Stephen Reps that came on air within, I think within the same seven days, and already came on air and was talking about how there was plans of demolishing the school.
	And I'd have to listen to it again to hear whether or not he brought up rebuilding a new one.
	Right.
	That happened in Dunblane as well.
	Right.
	Let's feature some of the stories that I had posted, if you don't mind, about the cover-up and the pedophilia that was in the area.
	And that various articles had outlined a lot of it in the area, a lot of it within the government, a lot of it with the police force, the investigative forces to do with Dunblane.
	Is that correct?
	That's correct.
	Well, the cover-up really started right away with the police.
	Central Scotland Police, actually it was the Police Commissioner of Scotland that said to the newspapers, the editors, don't investigate Dunblane.
	I'm going to prosecute you if you investigate Dunblane.
	And one newspaper, which is an Edinburgh newspaper called the Scotsman, bravely put the story out on the 6th of April 1996 saying we've been asked not to investigate.
	And we've also been threatened that if we do investigate and we tell people that we've not been asked not to investigate, we're going to be prosecuted.
	You know, and then everything went silent.
	Everything went silent.
	Right, that was kind of the point in Randy Hook and saying, you know, anybody who's throwing...
	The police officer, Swan, who was it? Shoot.
	It was Lieutenant Vance who had stated that if you were putting out disinformation, you could be prosecuted.
	Uh-huh. Yeah.
	Interesting side note, just recently, corruption charges came against, or corruption allegations came against Lieutenant J. Paul Vance, Jr.
	and a resignation letter was sent in.
	You could look that up.
	I thought that was rather interesting because that came about just right before Halbig's last FOIA hearing, and I'm not going to say that those had any correlation to each other, but I thought the timing of that is just very ironic.
	Right now we're featuring the article that was put out about Dunblane in the primary school, 16 children in the class, and that's the one with the probabilistic writings of Alistair Crowley and that article that was put out about Thomas Hamilton.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, we spoke a little bit about this earlier to say that Thomas Hamilton likely had connections with the with the masons and then also connections with the elite because of these boys clubs and what he did and the pictures that he probably had and we've no idea and we'll never have any idea what the police found in his home and one hand protects the other yeah with with people in power so the police was probably protecting the crown and the crown was probably protecting the police
	And it wasn't until 1999 that anybody was aware that the files could not be viewed for 100 years, that they were sealed away.
	And then it wasn't again until about 2003, until Lord Burton made that statement that we spoke of earlier, saying that he actually had a tangible connection between Thomas Hamilton and the speculative society of Edinburgh, which was Thought to be a known paedophile ring, you know?
	Right, right.
	Well, I'll tell you this much.
	I've mentioned this before in discussions regarding Sandy Hook, but early on when I first started looking into this, there was much discussion about all things satanic and regarding paedophiles and whatnot that were spread around as theories and what have you.
	So I just for for shits and giggles went on Google one day and typed up child porn and Connecticut and the hits just didn't stop coming.
	It was just one after another after another after another after another and I mean all sorts of different people.
	Bus drivers, pediatricians, police officers, you name it they had it.
	There was a pediatrician who after they died they were renovating his house and they opened up a wall and there were like thousands and thousands of photographs and videos and Like, I was disgusted.
	I was so disgusted that I wound up copying all of those links of all those articles that I found onto a post on David Icke's site and I deleted them all off my computer because it just made me feel sick and disgusting.
	You know, now that I'm thinking about it, do you recall the movie Donnie Darko?
	Oh yeah.
	You remember when Donnie burned down that guy's house in Connecticut?
	There was a kiddie porn dungeon in it.
	Right!
	That's right!
	Holy smack!
	Wow, that's interesting.
	Right, I'd forgotten about that.
	Wow.
	Yeah, that's interesting.
	But I'm telling you, like, if you can stomach it, just do a search for, like, child porn and Connecticut and you will not believe how many hits start coming up in Google.
	I know it's a disgusting thing to go looking for, but I mean, you'll find FBI reports, you'll find, you know, local articles.
	I mean, if you go right now onto a site that will tell you where registered sex offenders live, You will be astonished at how many live within a very small radius of Sandy Hook.
	Wow.
	So take that for whatever it's worth.
	That's crazy.
	I was also going to touch on the fact the first picture that Ryan had shown, of course, we won't go back to it, but it was the prince with Jimmy Salvo, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And all of the connections, we're getting more aware of what all his connections were.
	And, you know, look at Jersey Shore in the UK.
	Pymash Films has done so much on them, on the pitiful ring there.
	And it just seems that the upper crust is very vetted into child pornography and kidnapping.
	And Bill Maloney you're talking about, yeah?
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	Well, the reason perhaps that Jimmy Savile is connected to Dumbléne is that there's a thought process regarding what's coming out about institutional child abuse and paedophile rings across the country is we're a small country.
	They have to know each other, you know, we're not that big.
	So I would, you know, we know that Thomas Hamilton has written to the Queen etc, you know, thinking he had some Some clout there?
	Why did you think that?
	You know?
	And of course, we've got people who've had knighthoods, are all turning out to be paedophiles, and it's all coming out slowly but surely.
	And of course, if we read it in the media, it's the tip of the iceberg.
	And that's what I was saying earlier.
	Like, is the UK the paedophile capital of the world?
	You know?
	It's just appalling.
	But yeah, I mean, I think, I believe it's all linked throughout the country, and that Thomas Hamilton must have been known to many, many people, you know?
	Well, as we're scrolling, for those watching the video that our producer's running in the background here, there's some images and whatnot of Thomas Hamilton's Boys Club and I mean you'll see in the in the videos and the references that Photo provides in her series that I mean all these kids all these boys are shirtless They're all you know, basically the same height the same weight.
	You're not gonna see any too fat or too skinny or You know, they're all running around in short shorts and no shirts and it would seem just like an absolutely perfect breeding ground for some sort of sick disgusting bastard to Um, you know, make use of that for the benefit of others, as well as perhaps himself, probably himself, surely himself.
	Yeah, of course.
	I mean, we've seen in a lot of sporting events lately, a lot of hockey players, a lot of football players, baseball, you know, coming out about coaches or representatives in the faculty.
	You know, it's it's just seeming that this is a international problem.
	This isn't just our single country problem or Dunblane problem.
	Of course.
	You know.
	A global problem, yeah.
	Sure.
	And I'm not kidding.
	I'm not kidding.
	In Connecticut, if you do get around to doing that search, you will find every shape, manner, and form of person, like professionals, firemen, firefighters, police officers, doctors, school bus drivers, It just doesn't end.
	It goes on and on and on.
	It kind of frightened me because I have a certain amount of cognitive dissonance about this, right?
	It is so beyond anything that I could possibly imagine that I have a difficult time wrapping my head around the fact that this stuff really goes on.
	But it does.
	Me too.
	Very much so.
	Yeah.
	Also, I wanted to make note, like a lot of this is a lot of connections with the Masons, a lot of connections with the Upper Crust.
	You know, it's really funny, in there is part of the article that you had mentioned about the Sir Burton, I believe, that was the head of the Masons, that even he was told to shut up.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There are videos online, too, of Hamilton Interacting on video with the kids and he was brutal.
	He was very mean man towards the kids.
	It's funny because when it happened and the official story was released in the media, there are people that knew him and knew what a brutal man he was and what a coward he was and how selfish he was that said he would never have taken his own life.
	That song would never have put a gun in his mouth.
	He was too goddamn scared.
	And, you know, did he want to get away?
	Did he hire a van?
	He hired a van the day before.
	He paid for it in full.
	Is that a man who's going to kill himself?
	He waved to his neighbours that morning.
	You know, he scraped his van.
	Is this a man who's going to kill himself?
	Well, talk about that, about the official cause of death.
	There is no official cause of death.
	The coroner will not rule out anything.
	Really?
	So it wasn't by gunshot?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it wasn't by gunshot.
	The only thing that the coroner, Anthony Bastille, I gave you the, I can't remember his name, North, you know it.
	Bastille or something like that?
	Yeah, Bastille.
	Bastille, yeah.
	Thank you.
	Who also did the Lockerbie autopsies.
	This is a discrepancy between The two gunshot wounds, Rhea.
	The crime scene officer observed a giant hole in Thomas and Hamilton's head, the top of his head, with his brains at the back, okay?
	The coroner states that he had a small exit wound above his left ear.
	The coroner also states that his brain is preserved for identification.
	Now, if it was all over the gymnasium floor, how do you scoop that up and preserve it?
	It's like, you know, But all the coroner was allowed to say at the official inquiry was to keep your comments to Thomas Hamilton's head.
	And that's all he said.
	Exit wound.
	But the coroner has never put his signature to suicide, murder or any other cause of death.
	Honestly.
	I wanted our producer to show the last picture.
	I know we only got about two minutes left.
	I wanted him to show the one of Jimmy Salvo and the Yorkshire Massacre.
	This one here is of course of the Prince and Jimmy Salvo right now that you're seeing.
	Explain this picture to us.
	In the center is Jimmy.
	Okay, so there's a serial killer in Britain called the Yorkshire Ripper.
	His name is Peter Sutcliffe and he was, he became Jimmy Salvo's best friend, right?
	prior to his arrest, during his arrest, after his arrest.
	He's currently held in Broadmoor Hospital and Jimmy Savile was given the keys to that hospital.
	He was given the keys to the morgue specifically as well, which reinforces that he was a necrophiliac
	as well as a pedophile and a rapist and whatever else.
	But imagine that being your best friend in life.
	Take a look at that handshake.
	I was just noticing the handshake.
	I know.
	Well, hold on.
	There's a story behind that.
	Because that man, the black man in the photograph, is a boxer, a famous boxer in the UK called Frank Bruno.
	Frank Bruno.
	Yes, he fought Mike Tyson and got his ass kicked.
	OK, great.
	You know it.
	OK, so Frank Bruno was invited by Jimmy Savile to Broadmoor Hospital to meet his friends.
	No way did he know he was going to turn up and meet Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, who murdered 13
	women.
	You know, that's why he's in that hospital. Jimmy set him up. Jimmy set up the cameras
	for when he shook that man's hand. And then it just, you know, ridiculous stories came out in
	the media. And Frank Bruno today has dementia, probably through his boxing days. Yeah.
	He can't speak up for himself.
	So by the time Jimmy Savile died and that photograph was re-released in the press, he could not defend himself.
	That's why I think it's abhorrent, you know, and I gave it to North and showed the connections.
	But yeah.
	Unbelievable.
	We're out of time.
	Before we leave.
	OK.
	OK.
	Photo, before we leave, just wanted to let you know that I Given what you've disclosed about Dunblane, I'd really like to get you in contact with Carla from Hartford Community Court.
	I think she would have a lot of stuff to share with you.
	Well, let's make it happen.
	Don't hang up when this program's done.
	Photo, just stick around and we can chat after the program a little bit.
	It has been a real pleasure having you on and I can't thank you enough for the work you've done showing us the similarities between Dunblane and Sandy Hook.
	It has truly been a profound journey through your series of videos, and I really hope everybody takes the time to watch them.
	Anybody who's interested in researching Sandy Hook, I think you'll find it every bit as eye-opening as I have.
	And you can find them on her YouTube channel, Photo Via Pop, all one word.
	So thank you again very much.
	Was there anything you wanted to top off with tonight?
	Just that it was a great honor to be with you guys, because I know you work hard also, There's a higher purpose in everything that we do, isn't there?
	And I'm glad to be here.
	Fantastic.
	Thank you.
	We feel the same way.
	North, did you want to wrap up with anything?
	My mic just died and then come back.
	No, I want to thank the chat.
	I want to thank everybody for being patient with me to come in.
	Thank you so much and look for our next show.
	I'm not sure it'll be next week, but watch for the promo for another coming show.
	Absolutely, and again, thanks to everybody in the chat room, you listening at home, and our neighbors around the world.
	Until we see you again, stay human and keep resisting.
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