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May 27, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines- Interview With Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D.,
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Over 100 million people in the United States have already received the vaccine, the COVID-19 vaccine.
In some subpopulation groups, like those over 60, it's like two-thirds or more have gotten the vaccine.
So, how safe is it?
Well, Dr. Stephanie Seneff has written the most extraordinary paper, 42 pages of brilliant insights, and specifically How dangerous this vaccine can be, because we don't know.
There's been no studies to show the safety of this vaccine, but we're going to go in great detail.
and importantly, how you can protect you and your family if you've been vaccinated,
or how you can protect yourself from those who have been vaccinated,
are actually shedding spike proteins into the area you're breathing around them.
To have developed this incredibly new technology so quickly and to skip
so many steps in the process of evaluating it, it's an insanely reckless thing that they've done.
I don't see how these vaccines can possibly be doing anything good.
When you weigh the good against the bad, I can't see how they could possibly be winning.
I think that you have a lot of immune-compromised people in a country where glyphosate is destroying the immune system.
And that gives you tremendous opportunity for the virus to mutate its way out of a jam.
And then you're just going to have, the vaccine's going to accelerate that process because we're vaccinating immune-compromised people left and right.
People are dying of the immune response to COVID.
They're not dying from the virus.
The virus is not killing them.
It's the immune response to the virus that's killing them.
Basically, the vaccine is so unnatural, unbelievably unnatural, and they kind of, their goal, they have a single-minded goal, which is to get the body to produce those antibodies to the spike protein.
And then they do everything they can to rig it, and modifying every step along the way towards that goal.
And so they've redesigned, you know, the RNA has been manipulated.
It's not natural RNA.
They're making the SHRNA that's abnormal, they're making the protein that's abnormal, and they're making everything abnormal, and the goal is to keep it alive.
And so normally if you get injected with RNA, you have enzymes in your system.
And your tissues, it will immediately break it down.
That's why it has to be stored at a cold temperature.
You know, your body knows, I got to get rid of this.
I don't want this.
This is bad.
So now what you do with the vaccine is you make sure you can't get at it.
And the other really worrisome thing, and I've talked a lot about it in the paper, we can go into more detail about that, but there's potential for it to become part of the DNA.
And then it will last forever.
Welcome, everyone.
It's Dr. Mercola, helping you take control of your health, especially in these perilous times.
And we are joined today again by a recurring guest, because she's so darn good, Dr. Stephanie Seneff.
She has been associated with MIT for not one, not two, not three, not four, but five decades, and has four advanced degrees from this institution.
And she's a senior research scientist out there.
And since 2008, she's devoted most of her Brilliant into health issues and specifically focusing on glyphosate and sulfur.
But we are so beyond fortunate because in the last year, she's re-vectored her amazing ability to dig out the details and find these puzzle pieces and put them together on the COVID vaccine.
What could be a more appropriate topic than this?
And she has written a paper that was just published last week Uh and the name of the paper, I'll let her say it because it's not in front of me, but it's the best paper I've read on the vaccines.
I think it's most more than likely the best paper ever published on the vaccines.
It's so comprehensive and thorough and it took her six months to write it.
It was it was rejected a number of times.
It finally got published and it's just amazing.
We're gonna go dive deep in this and we you are going to be Fascinated.
Just beyond fascinated what she's uncovered.
It's beyond amazing.
So with all that intro, welcome and thank you for joining us today.
Thank you so much for having me.
My pleasure.
All right, so gosh, so much to dive into.
I'll let you take a start because I got like about 50 points I want to go over.
I know, it's very hard to know where to start.
I mean, for me personally, just when I saw that they were going to just unleash this vaccine on the entire world and just basically get everyone to believe that this is safe, effective, this is the only way we can get past COVID.
And just to do this with such, you know, to have developed this incredibly new technology so quickly and to skip so many steps in the process of evaluating it, it's an insanely reckless thing that they've done.
And I just really needed to know.
My instinct was this is bad and I needed to know.
And so I really dug into the research literature by the people who've developed these vaccines and then more extensive research literature around those topics.
And it looks to me like I don't see how these vaccines can possibly be doing anything good.
When you weigh the good against the bad, I can't see how they could possibly be winning at this point from what I've seen.
And I couldn't agree more.
And we've just had some very recent confirmation of that impression.
You shared an article with me today before you went on about that was published by America's Frontline Doctors.
By a research scientist who has over 100 peer-reviewed studies published showing that for anyone who gets the vaccine who's over 60, during the first 14 days after the first injection, the deaths are 15 times higher than those who aren't vaccinated.
That is extraordinary.
And then there was another study, which we'll link to in this chart, that shows that the deaths after vaccines are implemented, that reviews it by country by country.
And after every time that was implemented, the death rates increased, except for a few countries.
And you wisely understood that that was because these countries weren't using glyphosate.
So give me your take on that before we dive in deep into what your actual review paper shows.
Yes, I mean, I immediately suspected glyphosate when I started to see COVID-19 back in April, because I knew that I've written a book on glyphosate called Toxic Legacy, and I have an entire chapter in that book on the immune system.
Glyphosate, I believe, is a train wreck for the innate immune system.
So, when your immune system is weak, your body has to overreact to the virus.
It can't kill the virus, so it ends up basically shooting guns and having collateral damage and wrecking your tissues.
And you get into this, you know, cytokine storm kind of situation.
Where you destroy your lungs and you can't cope.
And it's not really the virus, it's the immune reaction to the virus that's killing you.
And that's because your immune system's too weak.
If you have a strong innate immune system, I believe you wouldn't even get symptoms from COVID-19.
And you look at the statistics on which countries are hit hard and just can't get ahead of this virus.
They're clearly the countries that use a lot of glyphosate and that are developing biofuels based on glyphosate-exposed plants.
So I think that's a critical piece of the puzzle as well.
Glyphosate in the atmosphere, especially in cities or on highways where people are burning bioethanol and things like that in their vehicles.
I think glyphosate is getting out into the atmosphere and people are breathing it.
And so now you're getting a direct attack on the lungs immune system, which makes you very susceptible to COVID.
So I've written a lot about that whole topic as well, but that's not our topic today.
Yes, indeed.
So, just to further support and expand on that innate immune system, certainly restricting your exposure to glyphosate by consuming organic foods, which typically have much lower levels than glyphosate, it's just hard to get free of it because it's so pervasive in the environment.
Optimizing your vitamin D levels and then metabolically flexible are two simple things
that don't have to cost you anything, in fact, may save you money.
You get vitamin D for free, especially in the summer.
Just go outside.
It's solar noon in your swimsuit.
If you go out with full clothing, it's not going to work.
And then just eat six to eight hour window with time-restricted eating.
So the innate immune system, that's what's going to do it.
We don't need a vaccine.
We do not need a vaccine.
We both believe, at least I believe, I suspect you do too, that vaccines will kill more people than the disease.
Yes, and in fact they'll make the disease worse.
This is something we wrote about in our paper, you know, and it was based on a study in the UK of a cancer patient who was treated for 101 days for severe COVID and stayed in the hospital for 101 days, kept in an isolation room because he was spreading the virus the whole time.
They were feeding him antibodies.
That were from people who had recovered from the vaccine and from the virus, they caught the virus recovery that gave this guy the antibodies and they didn't work.
And this is actually really, really critical.
Then they monitored his version of the virus over time.
And when he died, a particular strain of the virus became dominant in his body.
And that strain had something like 12 mutations in the spike protein.
So it had basically figured out how to get around those antibodies that were being delivered to him to evade the antibodies.
And so that viral strain is now more robust against the normal antibodies that we're making against this specific spike protein that's in the vaccine.
I think the vaccines are doing the same thing.
Anybody who's Taking cancer, you know, chemotherapy, they have a suppressed immune system or anybody who's got autoimmune diseases and, you know, just various weakened immune system people vaccinated.
In fact, they've shown that most of them don't make antibodies.
Like in this study, I think only something like 17% actually produced antibodies, but those are the dangerous ones, the ones who produce the antibodies.
And then when they get sick, those antibodies don't work because their immune system is so sick.
They do the same thing this guy did in the hospital.
They produce a new variant.
And when you see like in India, all these new variants coming out and causing all this trouble, you know, UK had the problem, Brazil, these are all places that use a lot of glyphosate, by the way.
So I think that you have a lot of immune compromised people in a country where glyphosate is destroying the immune system.
And that gives you tremendous opportunity for the virus to mutate its way out of a jam.
And then you're just going to have the vaccine is going to accelerate that process because we're vaccinating immune compromised people left and right.
Yes, indeed.
So with all that intro, let's dive into your paper in which you start out with the fact that most people, I guess, understand that this is a novel vaccine, or as you term in the paper, an unprecedented vaccine.
An unprecedented vaccine is one that has never before, for a disease that never had a suitable vaccine.
And other examples would be HIV and malaria.
So why don't you review for us the statistics, the projections, For an unprecedented vaccine from time of conception to time of delivery and predicted success rate, which will blow your mind.
Yeah, it's supposed to have to get the paper to get the details, but it's 12 years and it's like something like 2%, right?
Yeah, overall going through phase 2, 3.
When you go through all the phases, like very small percentage likelihood of success. 2% Yeah, it's just 12 years, 2%.
And we basically did it, what, maybe you could say one year.
No, less than a year.
Less than Operation Warp Speed.
Yeah, I know.
And then we jumped through it.
We skipped a bunch of steps.
And we don't know anything about long-term because we can't study it.
It hasn't happened yet.
And now we're, you know, millions of people are being vaccinated.
Hundreds of millions!
Hundreds of millions of people are being vaccinated.
It's mind-boggling.
Probably billions, eventually.
Yeah, and the way we're going.
And, you know, we'll find out 10, 15 years from now when people start getting prion diseases and autoimmune.
You know, crippling autoimmune and prion diseases, neurodegenerative diseases at lower, younger ages and more prevalence.
I think that's what we're going to see.
I think it's driving us towards, and of course, blood problems, right?
We've seen that already.
Hemorrhaging, blood clots, heart failure, brain problems.
I mean, it's just a nightmare.
I think it, and I can see how it happens.
I mean, basically the vaccine is so unnatural, unbelievably unnatural.
And they kind of, their goal, they have a single-minded goal, which is to get the body to produce those antibodies to the spike protein.
And then they do everything they can to rig it and modifying every step along the way towards that goal.
And so they've redesigned, you know, the RNA has been manipulated.
It's not natural RNA because it has these methyl pseudo-methyl, you know, methyl pseudo-uridines on it.
Methyl pseudo-uridines.
Yeah, so that is a good point.
There's no question because you would think That this is a spike protein that's what they're giving the people instructions to make themselves.
You would think they use the identical messenger RNA, but because it's so perishable, this is a totally modified messenger RNA to give the signal to your body to produce.
So odds are, I mean, not good that it's going to produce something beneficial for you.
Yeah, and when you think about it, there's like, that's only one, the methyl pseudouridine nucleotide.
And once you explain how that thing is, because not everyone is literate, is as literate as you in molecular biology and genetics.
Right.
So what were that and some of the genetic substitutions they're making in the other, the other substitutions they're making in the messenger RNA?
Yeah, they're making the messenger RNA that's abnormal, they're making the protein that's abnormal, they're making everything abnormal and the goal is to keep it alive.
And so normally if you get injected with RNA you're, you're, you have a Enzymes in your system, in your tissues that will immediately break it down.
That's why it has to be stored at a cold temperature.
You know, your body knows, I got to get rid of this.
I don't want this.
This is bad.
So now what you do with the vaccine is you make sure you can't get at it.
You know, you rig the vaccine.
So you make these things that look like, and I think it's LDL particles that they're trying to imitate.
You and I had a bit of a discussion beforehand.
They're trying to make these things look like natural LDL particles.
And there's a lipid they put in these, and they have these very strange lipids.
So the lipids are very abnormal, very weird.
I've never heard of them before.
They have complicated names, and we wrote about it in the paper.
They mix the RNA.
They're not natural lipids or fats.
They're not natural lipids.
There's some cholesterol in there, and that's probably just to help it look like a natural LDL particle so that your body will take, all the cells will take it up.
It doesn't even, you know, it's not being taken up by the ACE2 receptor the way the spike protein, it's not being taken up the same way.
That the, that the virus is being taken up to a totally different mechanism, you know that brings it into all, all the cells basically can take up LDL particles so and you inject into the muscle.
So you've gone past all the mucosal membranes, usually your virus is going to come into the lungs or maybe by the skin possibly I don't know but you know, or through the Or any kind of cavity where there's a mucosal system that's going to hit the virus first.
The virus is going to have your natural mucosal system respond to it and clear it if you're a healthy person.
And that's the end of it.
But we never get a chance to do that.
Even the healthy people, you're just getting it shot right into your muscles, past all the barriers.
And the muscles go crazy.
They see this awful toxic thing and they don't know what to do.
They start sending out all kinds of alarms.
They bring in all the immune cells.
And then the muscles are busy making this protein and the immune cells are taking up the protein and carrying it into the lymph system.
And this is a really interesting paper that I read about these RNA vaccines.
They were tracing what happens to the RNA once you inject it in the muscle.
It doesn't stay in the muscle, it goes into the, it gets in, you know, you get the swollen Lymph nodes underneath your arm, the armpit lymph node gets swollen, that's usually a symptom of breast cancer.
And people have been saying, oh, don't worry if you've got swollen under the arm, don't worry, don't get your breast cancer test, you're fine, it's the vaccine.
I mean, well, if it's something that's related to breast cancer, what is the vaccine doing that's causing the same symptom?
Who knows, right?
And then it goes from there into the spleen and that's where big trouble happens.
And I was so fascinated by that.
They're very proud that it goes to the spleen.
Let's hold off on this spleen thing for a bit because we're... We're rushing ahead.
So much to say.
I want to focus on the basics so people get this because, again, you're just so brilliant that it's, you know, you say something in a sentence or two and it's just like it's going to take people a long...
Many people, a long time to understand this.
I just want to slow it down and let's go.
You mentioned that it increases antibody production to the spike protein, which is called humoral immunity.
But there's also cellular immunity or the innate immune system, which you referenced earlier.
So help us understand what really helps give the body protection.
Just give us a brief overview of the immune system Well, that's what I wrote in my book about the glyphosate and the immune system.
is going to defeat this thing than the human immune system.
Yeah, and this is- The total basis of the vaccine.
Well, that's what I wrote in my book about the glyphosate and the immune system.
I had this chapter and I started out by showing that the innate immune system is actually very powerful.
And if you're healthy, it can clear viruses without ever producing a single antibody.
Antibodies are a second tier effect when your innate immune system fails.
And it's going to fail if you inject a vaccine because you never even got a chance to start because it didn't go into the lungs, you know?
And your body thinks, oh my God, the innate immune system must be shot to hell.
I better do something.
So your body is way overreacting to something that isn't true.
You know?
And they also made this spike protein.
So they made a different version of the RNA.
I mentioned already those methyl pseudouridines.
Every single uridine in the vaccine RNA is changed to this methyl pseudouridine, which your body doesn't know how to break down.
So that slows down.
Let's stop there because a lot of people don't know what uridine is.
So, let's just get into basic genetics.
Uridine is a substitution for thymine, which is a nucleotide that's used in DNA, but in RNA, like this virus, they don't have thymine, they have uridine.
That's right.
And it's one of four things, you know, there's the four nucleotides that make up the code, the DNA, the famous DNA code.
And uridine is one of four, and then you have this particular sequence that codes for the specific protein, and every three letters makes codes for an amino acid.
And those letters are redundant, because there's only 20 amino acids, there's 64 codes.
So, for example, glycine, the first and second have to be G, that's the guanine, and the third one can be anything.
to code for glycine.
So they also did something else, which I was just really amazed.
They took every chance they could to change an A or a T into a C or a G. They did it.
And they did that because they realized that when proteins have a lot of G's and C's, they're much more likely, I'm sorry, when RNA has a lot of G's and C's, it's much more likely to be able to make protein and makes
a lot more protein something like 1000 times as much if it's got those G's and C's. So they said,
Well, what the hell, we'll just change all those A's and T's into G's and C's because we wanted to
make lots of this spike protein.
You know, it's total manipulation. Oh, wait, wait, let me let me modify that.
Untested manipulation.
Completely untested.
Except in the process of doing the greatest human experiment in recorded history with this vaccine.
Right, right.
And then on top of that, they changed the protein.
So they said, well, this protein, you know, it has two different ways it folds.
And once it sort of gets, it gets, you know, it matches this H2 receptor, it binds to it.
And then after that, it folds into a different sort of snaps into a different shape and goes right into the membrane, like a needle, it goes into the membrane, it fuses with the membrane, the virus, a protein, this spike protein.
And that's a normal thing that it does.
So they said, and then once it fuses, it's actually hidden from the immune system.
There's like this part they want you to get antibodies to.
They're like obsessed with it.
And when it closes up, the immune system's antibodies can't get to it.
So they're like, okay, well, let's just change the protein so that it doesn't do that.
So they basically figured out that they stuck a couple of prolines in there.
They replaced a couple of amino acids in that fusion domain.
With proline.
Proline is a very sort of stiff amino acid that doesn't move.
It makes things very inflexible.
So it locks it into this open state that says, hey, antibodies, come get me.
So they're delighted with that, right?
Their total goal is to make antibodies.
So they leave that protein open so the antibodies can see it.
But that also means it sticks on the ACE2 receptor and doesn't go anywhere.
It can't go in.
So you're going to get all these spike proteins being made by these immune cells that are being loaded up with this RNA.
And those spike proteins are going to stick to ACE2 receptors and not leave.
That's going to suppress ACE2.
And that's how you get a lot of these problems.
You get pulmonary hypertension, you get heart failure.
right ventricular heart failure, you get stroke, you know, and so we're seeing those things
from as side effects of the vaccine. And I think it's because that protein is binding to the ACE2
receptors and disabling them. Yeah, we're definitely going with the protein because that's a
big, massive surprise that you unleash in your paper.
But before we get there, I want to focus more on the mechanics of this vaccine.
Because the messenger RNA, the highly modified, untested RNA, messenger RNA that they're putting in the vaccines, is so perishable that they don't have to be cold, but they have to encase it in this lipid membrane.
Yes, that's another one.
The size is under 40 nanometers.
That's sort of the critical threshold where it essentially goes like a hot knife through butter.
It goes into every cell in your body easily because of its size.
So, help us understand what are the consequences of giving this signal to produce these spike proteins.
Remember, this is a huge part of this.
This is not a regular vaccine.
This is an untested gene therapy that they're giving your body instructions to make the spike protein.
So, It's engineered in a way to get in every cell in your body, and what is your understanding?
Because there's no test on it, so you just have to make educated guesses, and there's very few people who are as qualified as you to make one.
But how long do you think it's going to remain intact, sending instructions for your body to make this Unknown dangerous spike protein in your body.
Could it be days, weeks, months, years?
I know.
I mean, that's an unknown question, of course, and they didn't have any answers.
They were talking on the order of six months, I think, in their paper, that it could survive for six months.
I mean, we don't really know.
They've done such a good job of keeping it from breaking down.
And the other really worrisome thing, and I've talked a lot about it in the paper, we can go into more detail about that, but there's potential for it to become part of the DNA.
And then it will last forever.
You can get it into your stem cells, let's say.
There's a lot of prep work to get to that point, though, so let's hold on.
Yeah, we can leave that off for now.
But the other thing is that PEG, you know, they put that PEG in there.
And also those lipids are cationic.
Cationic lipids are a no-go.
Wait, wait, wait.
People don't know what PEG is or what cationic is, so we've got to slow down.
Polyethylene glycol.
We're not talking to research scientists.
Yeah, polyethylene glycol.
And they figured out that that was something that would help to keep it safe.
I mean, the whole thing is make this ball that's so impenetrable that the enzymes can't get to it and can't wreck that RNA before it gets inside the cell.
And I believe you stated that the PEG was being used as an adjuvant, similar to aluminum in regular vaccines, because there's no aluminum in this vaccine, but it's the PEG.
Right.
And I actually think it's the cationic lipids.
And we got into that.
Explain what a cationic liquid is.
And PEG is, I mean, both the PEG and the cationic lipids, but the cationic lipids are pretty outrageous because it's positively charged lipids.
I mean, usually you have these phospholipids in your membranes that are negatively charged because of the phosphate.
And these cationic lipids, they figured out that they would cause an immune response.
So I think that that's a critical piece of the puzzle that gets you that initial immunity, because they always have trouble with these vaccines.
As you know, they put aluminum in them, you know, to try to get The immune system will notice there's something bad here.
And they couldn't put aluminum into these vaccines.
I suspect it might erect the RNA.
I'm not sure why, but they absolutely were not willing to consider aluminum.
But I think they figured out if we make these cationic lipid membranes, Positively charged, just the opposite of what the natural lipid membrane is.
The cells hate that.
I mean, positively charged lipids are extremely toxic to the cells, to their membranes.
And so the cell just starts screaming, you know, to the immune system, help me out, help me out, I'm dying here.
I mean, basically, is how I would say it.
It launches an immune response, which is what they need.
They need an initial immune response to get those immune cells in there, They need the immune cells to pick up the spike protein that's being now produced.
It comes into the cells using the natural endocytosis process, where you bring it into the cell's digestive system, and then as it gets acidic, then magically it opens up and lets that RNA out into the cytoplasm, where it immediately starts making protein.
It's all rigged to set up to do that.
It's another thing they change.
They put this big poly-A tail on it.
They put a head, they put a tail, they make it look exactly like a human protein, ready to go.
That's also very abnormal.
For that protein, for that RNA, you know, it's just an extremely manipulated version of the spike protein RNA, aimed at pretending that it's a human protein, and the cell gets to work, you know, making this protein, doesn't know better, and it makes it and sticks it out on its membrane, and then the immune cells pick it up, they pick up the protein, and take it inside, and then they carry it into the lymph system, so it starts out in the muscle, You know, the RNA starts out in the muscle where you've injected it, and then the muscle cells take it up, and then the muscle cells start making spike protein, and then they start displaying it on their surface.
And then the immune cells take up that spike protein, and they think, oh, this isn't, you know, really bad, take it into the lymph system, to the armpit, that lymph gets swollen.
They've actually traced it through, they've done other experiments with RNA technology they've shown.
It goes eventually, it really makes its way quite quickly into the spleen, and it stays there for a long time.
Now, is this the spike protein or the messenger RNA or both?
Both.
I think that the immune cells are picking up the messenger RNA.
Once they come in, they start eating the messenger RNA as well.
So, they pick up the messenger RNA, they carry it into the... it's probably mostly the messenger RNA that they're carrying in, but then they're busy making protein along the way.
So, they start displaying the protein on their surface.
Those immune cells need to display it on their surface in order to get the other immune cells that produce the antibodies to see it.
So, there's all these different immune cells that have different roles.
But it's the dendritic cells and maybe the macrophages that are initially going into the muscle, picking up the RNA, taking it over to the lymph system, traveling through the lymph system to the spleen, and piling it up there.
The spleen was the highest concentration of all the organs they looked at, and the liver was second.
Spleen and liver.
Is this animal studies or human studies?
Animal studies.
And it wasn't this vaccine, but it was messenger RNA vaccine.
So it's the same concept.
And I found more than one paper that talked about that in all the papers, including, by the way, the other vaccines, the ones that are based on the DNA vector, they also go to the spleen.
So I think they like it when they see that it's going to the spleen because you have these germinal centers in the spleen.
That are really focus groups for making antibodies.
So these dendritic cells are in these germinal centers in the spleen, and then they bring in the B cells and T cells, and those guys are the ones who make and perfect the antibodies.
Because you need to go through a whole training mode to get the antibodies to be exactly matched to that particular spike protein.
And that happens predominantly in the spleen, because that's where everything, all the action is taking place.
That is terrific.
So, I mean, it's not terrific for all, but it's thanks for helping us understand the details of this, because it's not widely known.
I mean, this information.
Oh, I know.
This is really groundbreaking insights into what they've launched on us for the last six months.
Right.
Well, we can probably go to the point where you wanted to go about the gene editing.
In fact, I was accused by some research scientist who was debunking my interview With Judy Michovitz, actually, who we might be interviewing next week, saying that the vaccine is a gene therapy.
And he said, yeah, Mercola needs to go back and study, you know, just take some refresher courses or something.
This is not Casper, it is not.
But when you go deep and study it, like he obviously didn't, you discover that this is in fact genetic, that this is a stealth weapon they're using that will change your DNA.
No question about it.
And it's counterintuitive because typically messenger RNA cannot be integrated directly into the genome because you need a reverse transcriptase.
But you found that there's a whole wide variety of reverse transcriptase systems already embedded in our DNA.
So just walk us through that because it's fascinating.
Yeah, and it was fascinating to me too.
I mean, I of course knew Judy's work and she talks so much about the reverse transcriptase as part of the HIV, these retroviruses.
That's her thing.
The retroviruses provide it.
Let me just say that reverse transcriptase is what causes the body to turn the RNA back to DNA.
That's exactly what it does.
It does a reverse transcription.
So there was this long period of time in which we had the mantra that transcription is DNA to RNA to protein.
Basic biology, DNA, RNA, protein.
But then we realized, in fact, you know, it was David Baltimore at MIT back in the 1960s who was part of, I mean 1960s, who was part of the 60s and 70s.
You probably met him, didn't you?
I actually was in his laboratory.
I spent one year in graduate school in biology working in his laboratory.
I feel really upset with myself that I dropped out to raise a family and I gave up.
But I went back to get a PhD in biology, not in biology, but I spent one year in his lab and he won the Nobel Prize for the work that was going on there at that time.
And it was reverse transcriptase, it's these retroviruses.
And so Judy and I are good friends, and we're excited.
We want to try to bring her stuff and my stuff together into the same story, and I think COVID-19 and these vaccines is helping us a lot to do that.
So it turns out, and I didn't know this until I started digging into these vaccines, that we actually have plenty of reverse transcriptase in our own cells.
I hadn't realized that.
We have plenty of it, and it's these lines and signs, you know, that are able to take RNA back to DNA and to put that DNA back into the genome.
All right.
Well, wait, stop there.
Because I would imagine 99.99% of people don't know what a line and a sign is.
Yeah.
Long, interspersed.
I always have trouble remembering what they are.
Long, interspersed nuclear elements.
I think that's right.
Long, interspersed, and then short, interspersed nuclear elements.
Lines and signs.
Yeah, they're really amazing.
And they're really, I mean, it's just astonishing.
And I saw our paper.
These are sequences of the nucleotides, right?
Yeah, these are actually pieces of DNA.
And they make up a huge percentage.
I mean, they're really surprising.
Like I think line one is various numbers of them.
And I think line one is 10% of our genome.
I mean, there are a huge amount of stuff in our genome is concerned with these lines and signs.
And most of the time, they're allegedly inactive.
And people were kind of puzzled, what is it these things do?
And they're very weird.
I mean, they fold DNA backwards and stick it back in differently, make clones, they sort of grow the DNA.
I mean, they do crazy, crazy stuff.
It's really wild science.
I find biology so fascinating because it's just so mysterious.
But when people have, for example, Alzheimer's, they get multiple copies of that gene.
The amyloid beta protein gets duplicated all over the place in their genome.
They get extra genome.
They get like a big fat genome with extra copies with different variations in those copies.
And they did that through RNA.
So you basically have a whole mechanism It's an evolution.
It's the mechanism by which we evolve, probably.
The primary, I would guess, is through taking the DNA, turning it into RNA, mutating the RNA, because RNA mutates much more easily than DNA does, and then putting it back into DNA and sticking it back into the genome.
This is a known process that's associated with cancer and with neurological diseases, and all these nasty diseases have this property that they activate these lines and signs And start finding they're trying to look for other alternative solutions for that protein to fix the problem, I suspect, you know.
And the problem has to do with things like glyphosate in the environment.
I mean, things are so sick.
And the body's trying to find another way around the problem by mutating the proteins.
It's a process that we use to deal with environmental toxic chemicals that we're confronted with.
Generally, you know, So the end result is that this messenger RNA could actually be transcribed and converted back to DNA by these lines and signs in our body, which is essentially reverse transcriptase endogenous within our own cells or organelles.
And then Yeah, and I sent you that article about the sperm, which I was just so blown away when I found that sperm article.
That was just amazing because it was a complete story and the title was something, you know, it's like the sperm can do this.
It was basically taking messenger RNA, external messenger RNA.
Now that could be from a virus or from a vaccine.
Taking it in, message RNA, converting it to DNA, and then producing what's called plasmids.
So the sperm do this, actually.
Whatever message RNA that they come up with when they're doing their thing, they make all these plasmids out of this message RNA that are now DNA.
They convert it to DNA, put it in these little pellets, and they release those plasmids.
And the amazing thing was that, you know, during fertilization, you know, there's one sperm that kind of gets prized, but all the sperm that are there are releasing these plasmids into the environment around the egg and the egg is taking them up.
So basically, the sperm are handing over to the egg, all these plasmids that have these nuggets of RNA, of DNA in them.
That they got from RNA that they picked up.
And so they can pick up the RNA that's in those vaccines and put it into those DNA plasmids and give them to the egg.
And then the egg hangs on to those plasmids and it can put it into all the cells as it grows.
It spreads them around over the whole body.
So by the time the child is born, it's got all these plasmids in there.
It's a code to make this spike protein.
I mean, in theory, this is totally doable.
And now that child is going to not have any antibodies to the spike protein.
It's going to think it's a human protein.
Its immune system is going to be trained that this is a natural protein.
You don't need to have antibodies to it.
So if that child gets exposed to COVID-19, their immune system won't react.
Now, whether exactly how sick they'll get or whether they'll get sick at all, I don't know, but their immune system won't react.
And they'll be able to carry that virus for their entire life, it seems to be.
And then pass it on down to their children as well.
So basically, and then those plasmids can also get integrated back into the genome.
So eventually, you could have somebody who's got passing on to their offspring, a human genome with a spike protein built into it, that is not impossible.
And I'm sure it's very rare, you know, and maybe we won't ever see it, I don't know.
But there is that disease that the cows were getting, I wrote about in the paper, that's also really, really amazing, because it comes very close.
It was a viral A diarrhea infection.
It's been a problem with the herds of cattle.
And what would happen is a baby calf would be born that was thinking that the protein of that virus belonged to the calf genome.
And the calf would think that because it had been integrated into the calf's genome and then the calf would carry the virus and spread it to all the cows.
So they became aware that you'd have these killer calves that would be born and then everybody, all the cows would get sick, the adult cows.
would get sick with the infection that the calf was carrying and unable to clear.
So I don't see why the same thing couldn't happen with COVID.
That a baby is born who has this humanized version of that protein and then catches the virus and then it spreads it to the entire population.
Yeah, they would be super spreaders.
Yeah, and they basically killed these calves.
When they found these calves, they killed them.
with respect to the cows, because they couldn't afford to infect the entire herd with these
calves with a virus that these calves were happy to carry.
Sure. So it's really fascinating. I mean, that's it's interesting to think about how the virus goes
through this whole process, but first is new to the population that causes all this
disease. And then maybe eventually there's something in that virus that's needed, I think, and
potentially it gets to be really wild science to speculate on these possibilities, but that it's trying
to get some kind of protein into your system that can help you, for example, cope with glyphosate.
I mean, I think that's a real possibility. So it's easy to understand once this
This.
DNA for the spike protein gets integrated into the actual DNA, that it would escape antibody production or humoral immunity.
But do you think that if you were exposed to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, so with respect to the vaccine, the COVID-19 vaccine, but if you think it would also, if you were exposed to the virus and had this genetic transformation, that it would also escape innate immune protection?
What I wonder, and I wish I could answer this, if I were a human who absolutely didn't mind this virus, that I thought it was fine, so I don't react to it and I let it grow, then what happens?
I mean, do I get sick?
So to what extent is the illness the consequence of the immune response, rather than the virus itself?
We don't know that really, because people say, oh, the real problem here is the immune response, overactive immune response.
People say that over and over about COVID.
People are dying of the immune response to COVID.
They're not dying from the virus.
The virus is not killing them.
It's the immune response to the virus that's killing them.
So if you don't have an immune response, I mean, what happens?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Nobody knows.
It certainly hasn't been studied!
It's tough for speculation at this point, but that is one of the major reasons why this vaccine is such an enormous problem, because we have no clue what the long-term consequences are.
We don't even know what the clue with the short-term consequences are, other than it doesn't look good and that more people are dying collectively than if they hadn't been vaccinated.
Yeah, I mean, there's that study that I just sent you this morning.
I just found this morning.
I haven't had a chance to look at it closely, so I don't know, but it was quite an interesting data analysis where they showed in Israel, where they've got very high vaccination rate.
And you mentioned it, I guess, in the beginning of this talk, but where they were dying at much too high a rate right after the vaccine.
It was 15 times higher for those over 60 in the first two weeks.
Yeah, I suspected that too when I read about that paper because they were talking about right after the first vaccine because you don't have any antibodies yet, you know, so you've got that vaccine going on making spike protein.
It could be a decoy because when the virus comes in you've got all this extra spike protein.
Your immune system's fighting your own spike proteins.
It doesn't notice there's these real ones over there.
It could be, right?
It's just a decoy that prevents your immune system from fighting the real virus.
So I think there's a real vulnerability In the week after you get vaccinated, especially the first vaccine, when you haven't built those antibodies yet.
And we saw some of these nursing homes in various parts of the world where nursing homes had tremendous death rate from COVID-19 shortly after they vaccinated everybody.
In other words, there was a handful of those that were hit the news in the U.S.
and in, I think, Italy.
I forget exactly where, but did you read about those?
I don't recall those.
Yeah, there's just a few cases of specific nursing homes where the virus happened to come in at the time right after they got vaccinated and then lots of people got sick with COVID and they had a very high mortality rate.
So I want to get into the actual potential toxicity of the spike protein.
Right.
Which is a pretty amazing part of your paper.
So why don't you expand on the details of that?
Because it really gives you a different perspective on exactly what it's doing.
Because remember, that is what this vaccine is.
It's instructions to your body to become a factory to make spike proteins.
Right.
And that's all it does.
It doesn't do the whole virus.
It just does the spike protein.
And that's a version of the spike protein that doesn't enter because it's screwed up.
It's a version, it's messed up its ability to fuse with the cell, with those two prolines.
So it goes and sticks onto the ACE2 receptors and knocks them out.
And I, you know, they did studies where they, they have done studies where they only expose the person to the spike protein.
I have the, it's probably a rat, animal studies where they only expose them to the spike protein.
And they showed it was toxic in the brain, and it was toxic in the blood vessels.
So it's causing an immune reaction all by itself that is damaging to the tissues.
And it's basically a toxic molecule.
And I think it's toxic possibly because of its being a prion protein.
And that's a part we wrote at the very end.
It's got an interesting story with the paper because we heard about, you know, this guy Clausen, C-L-A-U-S-E-N, had this article, like he thinks it's a spike protein.
He's been a researcher in vaccine here for a long time.
Yeah, and he was worried about it being a prion protein.
And so Greg and I talked about, oh, I wonder if we should, maybe we should put something in on this.
And we looked around and we thought, well, maybe it's a little too speculative.
Maybe we'll just leave it out.
And then in one of our rounds of review, I think it was the third round, you know, we had a new reviewer.
We actually never got rejected.
We just got, you know, we need more modification.
We had three rounds of reviews, six reviewers, and it was all the same journal.
Nobody ever rejected it, but they were always, you know how it is, it's like it needs modification.
My last paper had six reviews, essentially minor rejections, not a rejection, but revise this six times.
Major revision, minor revision, that kind of thing.
Wow, you did six times, and we did three times, but it was six reviewers, and I appreciate them, because they helped us make it a better paper, but it was in that third round of review, they said, hey, you got to talk about the prion thing.
So then we started rummaging through the literature again, trying to get the prion story, and I just, gosh, I was on fire, and I still feel right now, because all these papers I grabbed, and I didn't have time to read them, just kind of get the essence of it, and the story is amazing there, and I'm going to do more research on it.
I don't know enough yet.
But it looks horrendous to me.
I think it may be the most worrisome thing.
We already, of course, also have the antibodies.
I need to do two things.
We'll do the prions and then we'll go back to the antibodies.
I think that's another major reason.
We'll go on to what you can do to help prevent this, which is why it's important.
But I mean the autoimmune disease.
So there's two big things that are going to happen in the future.
They're going to take time.
So we're not going to see it immediately.
And of course, we're not going to blame the vaccine because people, you know, rates will start going up for these horrible diseases and we won't know why.
Probably.
They won't be linked.
No one will link them.
They won't want to.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
So the prion and then the antibodies, because the protein resembles a lot of human proteins, that's a huge issue there as well.
But let's do the prion first.
So fascinating.
I've been really fascinated by prion proteins, so I already knew quite a bit about them.
And I even knew, for example, that let's just, so first of all, you know, there's a prion disease, CKD, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, which is the human version of mad cow, which is that disease that was made famous in the UK because of that, all that problem with mad cow in the cows.
And so, That was due to this PRP protein.
We have PRP.
All the animals have a protein, prion protein, which they call PRP, that has different ways to fold.
So it's just like this spike protein.
The spike protein can form that folded version that goes into the membrane, or it can be opened up because of those two proteins.
Choline is keeping it open in its non-membrane state and that's very dangerous because these are the prion proteins typically are in the membrane, and they form these alpha helices, this particular kind of structure that's a wound up structure in the way they fold, the way proteins fold really influences how they work.
And the prion proteins produce these alpha helices that go into the membrane.
And they have an essential role to play in the body, but we can't figure out what it is.
And it's really fascinating.
People don't understand what these things are doing, but they know they're essential.
When it misfolds, the prion protein goes into the cytoplasm.
It's a soluble form that forms what they call beta sheets.
And these beta sheets, if you get a lot of them in the cytoplasm, they'll glom together and make these polymers.
So they're like oligomers.
So multiple beta sheets of different prion proteins all sticking together and making this big oligomer thing that is the toxic form of the protein.
And eventually you can get, it can precipitate out as these fibrils.
So you have the The membrane version with alpha helix, the beta sheets making the oligomers, which is just multiple versions of the protein all stuck together in the cytoplasm, and then you have the fibrils that precipitate out.
For example, Alzheimer's has amyloid beta.
That's a prion protein.
That causes, is associated with Alzheimer's and has the Alzheimer's plaque is these precipitated amyloid beta.
And then there's alpha-synuclein that's associated with Parkinson's disease.
And then there's TDP-43, which is associated with ALS, Lou Gehrig's disease.
So you have all these horrible neurodegenerative diseases that each one is tied to specific prion proteins.
And so the spike protein is a prion protein.
This guy, Howison, said so and there's also this They wrote a paper that's been published showing that many viruses have these membrane proteins that look like they're prion proteins.
And then they have a second paper that's not yet published.
It is not peer-reviewed, but it's on the web and one of those, you know, pre-preview sites where they talk about this particular prion, this particular protein being a prion protein.
There's a lot of stuff coming out right now where they're suggesting this is a prion protein.
Now, I know that prion proteins have a unique signature, which is called a glycine zipper.
Glycine zipper signature, which is a pattern in the amino acids is GXXXG, meaning there's two glycines and they're spaced by three amino acids.
And those three can be anything.
GXXXG.
And so, for example, the prion protein... The X represents another nucleotide.
Any, yeah, amino acid.
It could be any amino acid.
Oh, I'm sorry, amino acid.
That's right, sorry.
Yeah, GXXXG.
And the X's could all be G, so it could be GGGG.
That would be fine.
So it's not like it's not G. It's anything in between.
And so, for example, so the scrapey prion protein is magnificent.
It has this huge, huge sequence all in a row of GXXX, GXXX, GXXX, I don't know, 12 or 15 of these things all in a row.
So that's very clearly a prion protein.
Amyloid beta is more subtle.
It has four prions, four of these glycine zippers.
But that's amyloid beta, that's associated with Alzheimer's.
And The spike protein has five, five of these zippers, and one of them is right in that domain that got messed up by those two prolines.
So that means I think those prolines are going to make the spike protein much more likely to cause trouble as a prion protein than it would have without those prolines.
The modification that they make for the vaccine, I believe it's going to make it worse as a prion.
And of course, the prion proteins get in trouble when there's too many of them.
So what happens, you know, the cell responds to stresses by upregulating, producing more of this PRP, for example, or any of these, like the alpha-synuclein gets upregulated in the spleen.
In those cells when they're stressed, and of course this vaccine stresses them enormously, and the alpha-synuclein, which is a prion protein, can then buddy up with the spike protein that's being produced like crazy.
The vaccine makers have instructed it to make as, you know, wants to make as much spike protein as you possibly can, so when you get all that spike protein in the cytoplasm of these immune cells, they're going to have a problem with a prion reaction, and it's going to combine with the Alpha-synuclein that's also upregulated.
The whole thing is going to be put, they're going to have to be very stressed.
They're going to make these little pellets out of that.
They actually, I mean, this is all known.
I mean, there's papers that talk about all of these things, not with respect to this vaccine or what with respect to COVID-19, but with respect to prion diseases, that the stressed cell makes these little pellets, which it releases as exosomes.
It releases exosomes that are packaged up with these prion proteins from the spleen.
Papers are showing that the spleen, and in fact those germinal centers in the spleen, that the vaccine makers are so proud that that's where this stuff goes and that's where all the action happens.
Those same germinal centers are a primary source of the prion proteins that eventually get taken up the vagus nerve Yeah, fascinating.
to the brainstem nuclei. And that's how you can get Parkinson's disease, for example. So you get
this alpha-synuclein packaged up with this prion protein that's the spike protein sent out as
exosomes traveling along the vagus nerve to the brainstem nuclei to the substantial nigra where
the Parkinson's disease happens. And then those cells there pick it up and get in trouble. They
get sick and you get Parkinson's disease. Yeah, fascinating.
So these exosomes are like the nanolipisomes that the messenger RNA is encased in.
They're about the same size, and they rapidly penetrate almost every cell in the body, but particularly concentrated in the tissues or the areas that you mentioned.
Yeah, they've been doing that.
Of course, I've been reading all up on exosomes lately, too, because they're so fascinating.
And that's another thing where I overlap with Judy, because Judy's been talking about exosomes as being very much like viruses.
You know, they're kind of like viruses.
So, there's a whole... I mean, they have RNA in them, they have DNA in them, they have mitochondria in them.
I mean, they're very...
Fascinating.
These exosomes transport all kinds of stuff.
So I think when a cell is stressed, in fact, if it's dying, for example, when it's dying, it makes even bigger things.
They make all these different exclusion, you know, these sort of extracellular vesicles of various sizes.
And the exosomes are the smallest ones, I think.
But there's all these various sizes of these extracellular vesicles that are made by a cell under stress.
And then they're actually, I think they're saying, okay, guys, we've got some stuff here that you need to, I need to give you, I need to send a signal out about my situation by packaging up all this stuff that's inside me and shipping it out, you know, sort of getting somebody else to deal with it.
And in many cases, sharing things of value like mitochondria.
So they package up mitochondria and release them in exosomes.
I mean, it's really fascinating.
There's all kinds of stuff inside these exosomes.
But there's a particular kind of exosome that is packaged up with these prion proteins, and that's what they think.
They think that's how Parkinson's happens.
They've got it all written up with this, you know, spleen centers producing these exosomes that then travel along the vagus nerve to the... They've shown that if you cut the vagus nerve, then you reduce the risk of Parkinson's disease.
So they've really shown that that's a connection, that's a channel by which these exosomes travel.
They travel along the nerve channel.
Um, into the brain, and then they cause a lot of trouble in the brain once they get there.
So it's I mean, it's fascinating, fascinating science.
We still don't understand a lot of it.
And we don't really know what even why these prion proteins misfold.
I mean, there's so much we need to learn.
But it looks to me like it's a setup here.
They're really inviting.
This kind of thing to happen with these vaccines where they're focusing on those germinal centers.
And those are the very same place where these prion proteins often get started.
Yes, indeed.
So thank you for that excellent summary.
And I'm just going to repeat that with my perception and you can correct any mistakes I've made.
But to me, this is the most groundbreaking headline making news Of recent past few months.
And of course it will be ignored.
In fact, probably actively censored that the vaccines that are being offered to hundreds of millions of people are actually instruction sets for your body to make a toxic protein that will eventually wind up concentrating your spleen.
It sends out the prion-like protein instructions in these exosomes to sensitive Yeah, and worse than that, they've actually shown that these exosomes can get released from the lungs, so that's how you can have... Okay, the spreading!
That was the next step!
Yeah, that seems to me like... I heard about this.
I know people saying they were not vaccinated, but they hang out around vaccinated people.
They start getting weird periods.
I mean, that's...
It's sort of like, oh, this can't be true, right?
That's got to be fake news.
But the fact is, if you are a person who's producing these exosomes from your spleen and shipping them out, there's no reason why you can't ship them out to the lungs.
And in fact, they've shown experimentally that those exosomes do get released.
Exosomes get released from the lungs.
So, but just to be clear, what's being shared or spread is the spike protein, which in itself is toxic.
Right, exactly.
It's not a SARS-CoV-2, so this is not an infection, it's a spread or shedding of a toxic protein.
Yeah, and it could be combined with alpha-synuclein as well, because if those cells have been upregulating alpha-synuclein, and then we've got this prion mess, and they package it up in those exosomes and ship them out, so it could be really very trigger-happy for prion disease.
So if you're breathing it in, you could be getting increased risk, it seems to me.
I mean, it's, you know, this all gets, it sounds really far-fetched, but it's not.
It just looks like it could happen from just the logic of what goes on in biology.
It could happen, you know, that you would breathe in These exosomes containing these misfolded prion proteins, which are not good for you, and exactly what happens when they go into the lungs, I don't know.
You know, I have no idea.
Well, no one does.
It's never been studied.
You can only speculate, like much of this.
I know, it's a lot of speculation.
It has to be at this point because we haven't done the research, you know?
Intentionally, intentionally.
I know.
So, you know, which it really brings this whole point as to if they really believe that this was the best thing to save people's lives and prevent a catastrophic decimation of the human race, which it isn't in any way, shape or form, then if they believe that though, they would have Freely shared this information on how to make these vaccines with other countries, the poor countries, which can't afford to pay for these vaccines.
But yet, if they were given instructions, they could make it themselves and provide it at a less expensive rate.
Gates specifically has avoided sharing the intellectual property that will allow these countries to do that and only restrict it to the countries that can afford to pay for it and give them tens of billions of dollars of profit.
I mean, it's speculated that Pfizer alone will make between 20 and 30 billion dollars this year alone.
And this is not a 2021 profit, Enormous profits.
It's going to be continuously.
These are going to be just like the antiviral vaccines.
Well, that's the thing too, because they're forcing all these mutations.
And so therefore they're going to have to have a new version.
And the good news is they know how to just make a different spike protein.
Once they get the formula, just make a different one.
So they're very happy about that.
They just roll out a new vaccine.
Okay, everybody line up again, get your double shot.
I mean, every year, every six months, I don't know, but however long it takes for the virus to mutate its way out of a jam, which it's going to do repeatedly, because the virus is very good at mutating.
Yeah, so there's a few other things I want to discuss.
And what is the autoimmune reactions?
I'm glad you brought that up.
Yeah, because I don't want to forget that.
That's really important because that's been and there's been theoretical studies and then they've done studies in the lab to confirm.
That, and it's really quite interesting because there's many different sequences in that spike protein that are similar to sequences in human proteins that are known to be associated with all kinds of different autoimmune diseases.
And so there was a theoretical treatment that showed that there were these similarities.
By looking at the actual amino acid sequence, and then there were specific studies where they showed that it binds.
So, in other words, you have a similar sequence, you get an antibody of that sequence in the virus protein, and then that antibody goes and sees a human protein that has something that looks similar, like it needs glasses.
It's a little confused, and it sees, oh, this looks like a match, and it binds to that instead.
And that's how you get autoimmune disease.
It's called molecular mimicry.
It's very well known.
That when you produce antibodies, you always have a risk of producing autoantibodies, and they can cause serious diseases.
Well, the amazing thing is that they found in a... So, one study showed there were these similarities with all these different proteins, and then another study showed that it actually binds to them, to specific proteins that we know are associated with all kinds of autoimmune diseases, and I can list some of them.
For example, transglutaminase, which is linked to celiac disease.
It binds the antibodies to these spike proteins, There's a protein that's involved with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is an autoimmune thyroid condition.
That protein also binds to the spike protein.
There's one associated with lupus that binds.
There's proteins associated with the platelets, and that's how we're probably getting this attack.
They think the immune attack on the platelets, it causes precipitous drop of the platelet count, and then you bleed to death from a hemorrhage in the brain.
That's been happening to people.
Johnson & Johnson vaccine, you know, of course, had that big issue, but the mRNA vaccines have a lot of cases as well in the side effect reports of Let's talk about the platelets because that's an important one.
and platelet count because of antibodies to the platelets.
And then there's also antibodies to the mitochondria, antibodies to the nucleus.
But let's talk about the platelets because that's an important one.
I thought that autoimmune reaction was the result of the response to the PEG, the polyethylene glycol.
Well, that's a different one.
That's anaphylactic shock.
That's also, we should bring that up, anaphylactic shock due to PEG.
But this one with the platelets is due to the autoimmune reaction attack on the platelets.
From the spike protein?
Yeah, probably from recognizing this similarity between this platelet antibodies and the spike protein.
It's what they think.
I mean, they're not sure, right?
But it makes sense and it supports with the data that it actually binds to these platelet proteins that are linked to.
It's a different type of stroke.
It's relatively uncommon.
It's killed a lot of people, there's no question.
It's a different type of stroke.
It's relatively uncommon.
What's hemorrhagic?
Right, that's right.
It's a ischemic stroke from clotting, but this is the exact opposite.
It's so weird because you get simultaneous multiple clots throughout your body, this sort of disseminated intravascular coagulation combined with tremendous drop in platelets and then hemorrhaging.
So you've got both hemorrhaging and clots going on at the same time, which is quite unusual.
And I think it's a heparin, it's like a heparin, toxic reaction to heparin.
It's a very strange, very rare form.
That's why they know it's caused by the vaccine because it, you know, it's happened too often right after the vaccine to be something that would happen by chance.
The generic term for it is the ITP, idiopathic thrombocytic purpura, isn't it?
Thank you.
That's right.
That's right.
Yes.
So, wow, that was quite a bit.
So now that everyone is depressed, especially if they've gotten the vaccine, we have to offer some ray of hope on what they can do because I just about, it took me two hours to read your paper.
It's only 42 pages, probably 38 if you'd exclude the references, but it took a full two hours.
It's just fascinating.
This is not a quick 15 minute read.
And we're going to have a link to that paper on this article.
Yeah, I have the name here.
Worse than the disease.
Reviewing some possible unintended consequences of the mRNA vaccines against COVID-19.
You can see that there.
Medicine, we have this, you know, it's not uncommon.
It's a double negative that's so common in medicine.
To have the treatment be worse than the disease.
And I'm glad your paper addressed that.
But it also offered some things of hope.
And it didn't go into the specifics I would have liked.
I would have liked to have been a mini co-author contribution to this one.
But the pearl that you dropped, for those who were astute enough to catch it, Is that there is hope that your body does have an intrinsic capacity that it was born with to take care of this.
And what is that capacity?
It is called autophagy.
Autophagy is two Greek words combined together.
Auto means self and phagos means eat.
So it's self-eating.
It's not apoptosis.
It's not destruction of the self.
It's removal of damaged proteins that need to be eliminated to prevent them from causing complications.
So you brought that out and just the lights went off and I saw that because there's two powerfully effective strategies to upregulate autophagy.
Really, and they work tremendously.
Do you want to know what those are?
Yeah, I imagine one of them is fasting, periodic fasting.
Yes, periodic fasting.
Some people can do it, 80% of the population being overweight and probably close to 40% being obese.
They could do that fasting and do really, really well.
But for those who aren't, There is a process called time-restricted eating.
And even if you are obese, you're not going to go right to fasting.
You got to do it slowly because it's just not going to be able to tolerate it.
So time-restricted eating is when you're restricting the eating window to six to eight hours.
I do that.
Yeah.
I learned that from you and I skip breakfast and I have lunch like at one and then dinner at six.
And so.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect.
So, you know, get small and eat when that will do.
And there's one other strategy that will really, really help.
And that is sauna.
Hmm, interesting.
Because sauna upregulates heat shock proteins.
This is mechanism of action.
And most people understand that that's the mechanism if they studied it, but they don't understand how heat shock proteins work.
Heat shock proteins work by essentially refolding proteins that are damaged.
And if they About one third of the proteins that your body makes are damaged as soon as they are produced.
So this is a big issue.
This is why I do sauna.
Especially with glyphosate, by the way.
It's probably even more than one third.
But in addition to refolding them, it has this sensing mechanism that the protein is too damaged or too destroyed that it targets it for destruction, a type of autophagy.
Two powerful ways.
Daily sauna.
I would say work your way up to 170 degrees Fahrenheit for 20 minutes.
Wow.
Yeah.
And that's what I do.
You do that every day?
Every day that I'm home.
I'm unable to do it.
That's fascinating.
So the heat actually sort of loosens up the protein and allows it to somehow... It causes your body to create heat shock proteins.
There's dozens of these different proteins.
But in response to heat, you get these proteins that then apparently like to clean things up under heat situations.
I always wonder why the heat helps.
It triggers those proteins, but then there's a question of...
Why does it trigger those proteins?
There's always a lot of questions you can ask about biology.
Yeah, and it actually simulates a fever, so that if you actually have an infection, like an upper respiratory infection, or even COVID, that it would help your body destroy that virus.
Actually, that's a good point, because the virus is susceptible to heat, and that's a critical time, just a little bit beyond your normal human fever, or regular temperature.
Is when the virus starts to fall apart.
So that's true for the SARS-CoV-2.
Yeah, I think this is one of the most important health practices people can engage in.
Because it'll actually help your body in so many ways.
But, you know, it's obviously a bit costly.
Typically saunas are a few thousand dollars or maybe even more.
But if you have one in your house, yeah, I wouldn't use a commercial sauna like in a gym or something because That's a good point.
when you're sweating, you're detoxing and eliminating a lot of toxins that are fat soluble.
So unless they were really assiduous at cleaning it regularly, which hardly ever.
It's a good point.
It might be a problem.
There's toxins in there.
So, and it'll also, but it does help your body detoxify.
If you're, especially if you're heavy, you're gonna store these fat soluble toxins,
these, and then your body excretes them.
It makes sense, actually, just the sweating, right?
It makes sense.
Yeah.
And in Finland, where they did the studies, they found an overall 40% decrease in overall mortality, 40%.
Wow, that's amazing.
Heart disease.
So it's crazy not to take advantage of this.
Once you have it, it's basically free.
You just have to do a little, you have to shower and clean up afterwards, of course.
But to sweat, when I go in there, I sweat in about a quart of water.
Wow, that's amazing.
At least a quart.
I lose two or three pounds.
Wow.
So it's good, though.
And you feel so good when you get out of it, especially jumping in the water.
But anyway, those were the pearls that give you hope for what you can do and should be doing anyway, because even if it doesn't do anything against us, which we don't think is, we know it's going to activate the autophagy, so it'll help you not only if you didn't have the, if you had the vaccine, but even if you didn't because of this viral shedding process that you referred to.
Yeah, right.
I know we have to worry about being near people who didn't have the vaccine.
Spike protein shedding.
Yeah, spike protein shedding.
That's a really interesting concept.
Whether it's true or not, we don't know in the research, but it's certainly provocative.
And of course, organic diet, sunlight, we mentioned that earlier, that those are so crucial.
And I think a high sulfur diet.
Sulfur is very important for the immune system.
Yes, absolutely.
Wow.
Oh, here's the other thing that you had put in there that was a bit at the end.
Oh, and by the way, this whole production commercialization of this vaccine is a process.
So ideally, they've got this highly genetically modified messenger RNA that's encased in this nanoliposome, a PEG, is what they're intending to do.
The unintended consequences of the commercialization of this product is that some spike proteins, fragmented spike proteins, don't make it into that nanoliposome.
They're actually in circulating in the diluent or the liquid that it's encased in.
So why don't you go into that and talk and tell us about potential complications of that fragmented protein being injected.
Well, I mean, I was really shocked when I heard, Greg figured this out, he read it, that the version of the vaccine that they used in the trials was carefully constructed with this expensive technology that makes the DNA in a way that doesn't involve any kind of cells.
And so they made a much more reliable version of pure DNA, pure RNA without any contaminants.
But then once they had to mass produce it, apparently they used a different method to make the DNA and it involves growing bacteria and culture, I believe is what they said.
And then they give these bacteria, they modify their genome to have this spike protein in it.
And then they have this way of Teaching them to make lots of it because they can sort of activate that gene and have these microbes make lots and lots of spike protein and I mean make lots and lots of spike DNA.
They're trying to get the DNA by proliferating the microbes and so then they have to isolate the DNA from a much messier situation and then they get much less reliable Versions of the DNA and then they get much less reliable versions of the RNA and the RNA has many more fragmented versions and even possibly some double-stranded RNA.
So there's just like a much messier consequence of the version that was used in production compared to the version that was done in the laboratory for the trial experiments.
This is what Greg Nye found something that talked about that.
And if that's true, I mean, that's really shocking, too, because they never actually did the trials on the same substances that they're putting together in the in the vaccine.
So if you get this RNA that's only partially coded, then what happens?
You make all these partial strings of short chains of parts of The prion protein is a prion protein, but I mean the spike protein.
So you have all these different short chains of spike proteins in there, and the claim is that those don't matter, but you know... Of course!
I've never tested it, but it's safe.
Yeah, it's just mind-boggling how many different things we don't understand about these vaccines and what they can do.
You know, there's also the herpes.
I don't know if you remember the herpes.
Resistance of herpes.
Yes.
Yeah.
So you're getting people getting shingles after the vaccine and that's a sign that you've weakened the innate immune system.
So I think it's an overproduction of TNF-alpha that actually interferes with interferon-alpha, which is what you need to keep the herpes in check.
When you get the vaccine, it takes away your ability to keep herpes in check, which is a sign that your innate immune system is weakened.
And of course, I've seen that with the flu vaccine.
There's a study that showed that people who got, this is a controlled study, where the people who got the flu vaccine had a fourfold increased risk of syncytial virus over the next year.
Fourfold, because their innate immune system was weakened.
And I believe every time you get any vaccine, you're basically driving your immune system towards the adaptive immune system.
It's all about making antibodies.
And the immune cells actually become less capable of the generic immunity that you need to fight off everything else.
If that's true, that means that people who have been vaccinated are going to be less resistant.
to the strains that are coming out that have mutated their way out of a jam.
So the ones that are not sensitive to the specific antibodies that have been perfected against that one version of the spike protein, those guys are going to have a field day on the people who have been vaccinated because they're not going to be as capable of fighting off those mutant strains as the ones who have not been vaccinated.
I'm predicting that.
Yeah.
So I wanted to go back as we summarize things.
We said initially that this is classified as an unprecedented vaccine and those typically require 12 to 15 years before they go into commercial production to prove the safety.
This vaccine was produced in less than one year.
So, the studies haven't been done.
We have no idea, no concept, no clue.
The paper you wrote is really probably the finest one to date on summarizing the theoretical likelihood of adverse outcomes.
And it's this likelihood because the studies are, we're compiling the data, the initial data.
We've only been in this six months, folks.
That does not look good.
Most of the countries who've had the vaccine, the death rate went up immediately.
It spiked.
You can see it's going down and we'll have a link to the video that shows us and hundreds of different, dozens, if not a hundred different countries where it's introduced and it goes up.
So they did some studies, obviously, a few months, or trials, I'm not sure, classified human trials, phase two and three.
And in those trials, we didn't discuss this, but I wanted to mention it now because I forgot it, in that they conflated.
We projected that unprecedented vaccine success rate should be about 2% or so.
2% or so, but we have a 93 to 95% success rate or effectiveness rate in these early trials
from Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
So, what is that though?
It is a conflation or confusion between absolute risk and relative risk.
So, the relative risk is a 93-95% reduction, not in likelihood of catching disease, not in having herd immunity, but in having Decreased symptoms.
Decreased symptoms.
It's the only thing it showed.
But that was still a relative risk.
If you look at the absolute risk, it was only 1%.
Right. 1%!
Which is crazy.
So we're doing this vaccine with virtually no benefits, no downside.
No one is looking, and the second paper you sent, which we're gonna have a link to from the frontline, American frontline physicians, talked about this.
It's the risk to reward ratio.
Enormous risk, unbelievable risk, increased risk of death is prion disease, neurodegenerative diseases, complications, miscarriages, and virtually no benefit.
It doesn't pan out unless, unless one thing, You are a stockholder or the owner directly of the vaccine companies, or Bill Gates who's invested heavily in them.
That's the only way this thing makes sense.
The only way.
I know.
It's amazing, isn't it?
I still feel like I'm in a surreal time.
I just can't quite understand that this is actually taking place.
It doesn't make sense to me.
This is a dystopian novel on steroids.
Exactly.
It's sort of mass hysteria, right?
They've managed to convince people that this disease is so fearful.
That whatever you can do to stop it, you have to do it, and you have to do it for the good of your country, you know.
They're telling you if you don't even think you need the vaccine, never mind.
Get it anyway for everybody else, right?
There's just so much pressure.
And it gets more egregious as the time goes on.
So just a few weeks ago, even though pregnant women were in many of these fake studies, and even in these fake studies, you probably know, but I forgot to mention, that They got rid of the control group.
They said, oh, this vaccine is too good.
We can't have a control group.
It would be unethical to do that.
So they eliminated potential for ever finding out any differences between the two groups.
But then three weeks ago, the CDC said pregnant women should be vaccinated.
And we know 30% increase in miscarriages.
That is so incredible.
I remember even when they first released it, they said, well, if you're pregnant, you know, we haven't studied on anybody who's pregnant, but if you want to get it, that's not a problem.
Go ahead, get the vaccine.
Now I'm like, are you kidding me?
They haven't even studied on anybody who's pregnant and you're telling me to get it?
I don't understand.
I don't understand how people can listen to this kind of advice.
Well, it's primarily through the propaganda, but it is reprehensible malpractice and the individuals responsible for implementing that recommendation should be jailed and have their license permanently removed.
I agree.
It's in violation of the Nuremberg Code.
Absolutely it is.
There's no question.
It's illegal and they're getting away with it.
But even on the same level, Fauci just said last week that The goal is by the end of the year to have this for everyone down to six.
I know, it's scaring me.
They keep on bringing down the age.
Now it's 12, 12 years old.
These kids have virtually no risk of having any complications.
It's so insane.
I just can't fathom how we got to where we are today.
I just can't understand.
Yeah, it is.
And the majority of the people will think that we're nuts and we're conspiracy theorists.
But we're not.
We're telling people the facts and we will be vindicated.
There is not a micro down in my mind.
The truth will eventually surface when, unfortunately, millions of people die before.
You know, this is another interesting fact.
Just to summarize this thing is that Swine flu vaccine.
You were around certainly when that happened in the late 70s.
There was no liability insurance.
That didn't happen until 1986.
So in the late 70s they had it.
The government provided the liability and they recommended everyone to get it.
They gave it to 48 million people.
48 million.
Of those, 53 people died. 53!
And they shut the program down.
Lots of people got Guillain-Barre.
They paid out $3.5 billion worth in damages.
They shut it down with 53 deaths.
Today, as we're speaking, mid-May, we have over 4,000 reported deaths to the VAERS database.
And it's known that the VAERS database is only showing between 1% and 10%.
So that 4,000 could be 40,000 to 400,000 deaths.
I know.
It's just amazing.
And it's still not shut down.
In fact, it's the exact opposite.
We want pregnant women, six-month-old kids to have this vaccine.
It's just unbelievable.
I mean, it's just mind-bogglingly unbelievable.
I don't understand, you know, what's going on inside people's heads, I guess.
Other than making a lot of money and technology.
I mean, they think if they can get us to accept this vaccine, there's all kinds of other mRNA technology products that they've got in the wings.
They're so excited about the potential.
They're a very clever way to earn revenue because there is, as we mentioned, no liability.
There's no way they can ever get a bill from a lawyer That's just incredible.
from this vaccine.
Right.
They're permanently immune to prosecution, permanently, no liability.
That's just incredible.
It's like the perfect, perfect drug.
Any drug they make, there's potential harm and damages that frequently results in billions of dollars of lawsuits
and damages and awards.
So anyway, it's, you know, we can go on and on about this, but I want to summarize with some hope
that your body was born with a powerful tool to eliminate this and protect you.
And it's called the innate urinate immune system.
So even if you've gotten a vaccine, you want to upregulate it as much as possible,
because we don't know.
The studies haven't been done.
We won't know for years, if ever.
You want to do things like optimize your vitamin D.
60 to 80 nanograms per milliliter in the U.S.
100 to 150 nanomoles per liter outside the U.S.
and the only way you know is to test it.
You can't guess.
You've got to test.
You get it for free if you go outside your bathing suit and close to solar noon.
That'll work almost everywhere in the summer.
So do that or swallow vitamin D 8,000 units a day.
Do time-restricted eating.
And then do sauna regularly.
It is crazy not to do sauna, especially now that we know there's toxicities from these spike proteins and you want to upregulate the heat shock proteins and have your body remove them from your body.
And there's no studies on this.
Obviously, it's too darn new, but there's every bit of reasonable common sense that suggests that this will help mitigate that.
So even if you haven't gotten the vaccine, you're exposed to people who have, Because it's a crazy, I don't know what the number is.
I think it's two-thirds of the people over 60 in some counties.
It's like almost 100 percent.
I mean, they've manipulated and brainwashed and propagandized people to the health.
They've convinced them that they need this.
This is not worthless.
It's worse than worthless because it's going to kill so many people.
So anyway, so you're going to be exposed to these spike proteins, not the virus, but the spike proteins for those who've been vaccinated because they're shedding these exosomes.
Very, very clear.
But don't be confused.
It's not shedding the virus.
There's a distinction.
They're an important distinction.
So anything you want to add to that summary?
Because first of all, before I offer you the chance to finalize their comments, is just extreme gratitude, appreciation, not for myself, but every one of us for taking the hard work, six months of diligent Thank you very much.
It certainly was a labor of love because I'm just like so concerned about my children, my grandchildren.
because I like a treasure hunt, but for doing that and providing us with this massive,
incredibly important piece of information.
Yeah, well, thank you very much.
That certainly was a labor of love because I'm just like so concerned about my children,
my grandchildren, you know, everyone's being pressured to get it.
And families are being, you know, tortured by different people having different opinions
about the vaccine and fighting with each other.
I mean, it's just caused a tremendous amount of stress among so many people across the globe, and I really hope that... I hate to say this, that it needs to get bad, you know, in order to get better, because it takes a huge amount before they finally recognize that it's not working, and I don't know at what point they will, but that's what needs to happen.
We need to recognize that it's not a good idea, and we need to stop it, and we need to do that immediately, in my opinion, but We'll see what happens.
Okay.
Well, thanks again, and hopefully we'll have you back really soon with Judy Mikovits.
Yeah, that would be fun.
That three-way conversation will be really intriguing, so I'm really looking forward to it.
I hope she can join us soon, so that would be great.
That would be wonderful.
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