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April 21, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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Dr Sherri Tenpenny and Dr. Lee Merritt - The Medical Industry Has Now Been Weaponized April 18, 2021
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Well, good morning everybody.
It's a special session this morning of News This Week with Dr. T on a Saturday morning because this was the only time that we could sort of coordinate this because my schedule is just insane and it looks like it's nighttime here.
It's actually morning where I am.
But I have to pull all the curtains because there's this bright, shiny, glary light that is, uh, is pretty, pretty disgusting from behind me.
So, so welcome everybody.
I hope you guys had an opportunity to listen to the, um, new This Week I did with, uh, Dr., er, not Dr., with Representative Anthony Sabatini on Thursday.
It's now posted, posted in Podbean.
So we're going to do a just an amazing interview this morning.
I've been wanting to connect with this doctor for months now, absolutely months.
So thank you for joining us here sort of spontaneously.
This will be recorded and put into Podbean at The Tenpenny Files, probably in the next day or two.
It takes a day or two to get, um, to get things done.
Edited and we add some little bit of music and take out some of the noise and things like that.
So so I hope that Hope you guys and I'm so pleased that all of you guys seem to be liking what's happening over on Podbean We've been up and running now for nine weeks and we've had just about 150,000 downloads already, which is really pretty darn cool So let me see if my special guest has shown up here yet.
Good!
She's here and standing by.
So let me get the introduction done and we will get started because I want to
give her as much time as possible because she has so much cool stuff to
say. So hello everyone my name is Dr. Sherry Tenpenny and I want to extend a
warm welcome to everyone for joining us here on this special edition of This
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So let me introduce today's special guest, Dr. Leigh Merritt.
Dr. Merritt began her medical career at the age of four, carrying her father's black bag on house calls, along with back roads of Iowa.
In 1980, she graduated from the University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry in New York.
Where she was elected to a life membership in the Alpha Omega Alpha Honor Medical Society.
Dr. Merritt completed an orthopedic surgery residency in the United States Navy and served nine years as a Navy physician and surgeon before returning to Rochester where she was the only woman to be appointed to the Louis A. Goldstein Fellow of Spinal Surgery.
Dr. Merritt has been in private practice of orthopedic surgery since 1995.
She served on the board of the Arizona Medical Association and is past president of the Association
of American Physicians and Surgeons, which is AAPS, which they do remarkable work.
You guys should know about their organizations and support them.
She's had a long interest in wellness and fitness and has been a fellowship and has been certified
by the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
She is married, a proud mother of two sons, one of whom carries on the four-generation medical
tradition as a general surgeon, and the other, she says,
has a real job as an electrical engineer.
and I'll see you next time.
In her spare time, she raises chickens, she gardens, and she enjoys rural Midwest lifestyle.
And there she is!
Good morning!
Good morning.
I'm an Instagram idiot, so I had a little trouble getting on.
I can't tell you how many Instagram virgins we've had on this show.
I need a young person in my household again.
I'll bet you, maybe, and we've been doing Instagram Lives now for the better part of a year.
We do five a week, actually, and sometimes more.
And I would say probably close to a third of the people that we've had on as guests have never done Instagram before.
Okay, I don't feel so bad.
You're a good company, so that's just great.
I am so excited to make connections with you.
I've just been chomping at the bit to talk to you ever since I saw your first broadcast.
I think you were speaking at, maybe at a city council meeting or something like that, and you just really took them on.
I'm like, I'm after that girl.
I need to talk with her.
Yeah, the facts didn't really matter to the City Council, as you can imagine, but I met Ben Tapper.
He's a chiropractor in town here with me, and he and you are both on the 10 Most Wanted list for spreading medical misinformation.
We were at a meeting last night, and I said, The next step is, if we don't win this, they're coming after us.
And people need to wake up and realize this is not just about us, they're coming after everybody.
The fact that you just ask for moral medicine, transparency, and safety in your medicines, and ethical medical practice gets you banned.
That's the world we live in right now.
Yeah.
And I really appreciate all you do.
You've been leading this charge for a long time.
Yeah, a little over 20 years.
A little over 20 years.
And you're absolutely right.
We are living in the ministry of truth right out of 1984.
in your absolutely right i mean we're living in you know in the in ministry of truth for a right at what
right i think that before
that we are not but we if we don't march lockstep with the propaganda
you know we are considered you know terrorists and put on domestic
terrorist list They come after us with lawsuits.
They do all these different things.
And if we were so wrong, why would they bother?
Well, and so, you know, I was a Navy surgeon for 10 years, and I spent a lot of time with the Marine Air Wing.
And the pilots have a phrase.
They say, you know, if you're catching flack, it just means you're over the target.
And I've modified that for this particular fight.
I said, if you're catching a lot of flak, it means you're over a very big target they do not want to let happen, go down.
And so for my thing was, I just started talking about the mask mandate.
And I've had people like...
McGill University sent out their henchmen.
They had six PhDs in this, who knew, in this little division called, I think, Science and Nonsense.
And their point was, walk away from America's frontline doctors.
And then they specifically targeted me and said, Lee Merritt might be a good orthopedic surgeon, but doesn't know about the science of masks.
I thought about that, and I said, well, I could argue that point.
I really do know about the science of masks, but the point is, why come after one doctor, small-town doc, just making a point that it's not right to do to our children, and it's certainly not right for contagion control?
If you don't agree with me, just bring out the opposite argument.
Show us the science that really does make a difference, which I have not seen.
You know, the answer is that masks are not about contagion control, they're about human control.
And they really don't want this to go down because it's the linchpin in making this illusion real.
If you take off the mask and you look around and say, huh, nothing happened, hey, maybe I can just ignore these guys, you know, it'll go away.
So that's why they really, really don't want, I mean, And it's all to get you the vaccine, I think.
I didn't use it, but it is.
That seems to be their end point.
It is their end point because nothing is going to stop them.
The CDC came out with new data yesterday saying the VAERS database now has over 3,000 reported deaths and over 62,000 reported adverse events.
As we know, that's somewhere between 1 and 10 percent of actual events that's captured.
And so, over the 3,000 deaths, that is more deaths in a four-month period of time from
one shot than usually is accumulated over a year with 17 shots.
But there's no end in sight.
As a spine surgeon, where are you located now?
Where do you live?
Well, I live in Iowa, but I got cancel cultured from my orthopedic job, so I'm now in my own little practice.
We do laser therapies in Omaha, so I'm in Omaha, Nebraska, essentially.
Okay.
Well, you know, it's so cultured.
It was one of my questions I was going to ask you, is how much flack have you gotten from fellow colleagues for what you're doing?
Well, I mean, they mostly, I think, just think I'm crazy most of the time.
But, you know, I didn't start 20 years ago like you did, but I became aware of this, I think, really around 2009, I would guess, when they started mandating the flu vaccine for nurses in the hospital.
And the nurses knew I was of libertarian bent, and they thought it was wrong to mandate this.
I said, of course it's wrong to mandate any medical treatment, but let me look at this.
So I started really looking at the data, and I've come to the conclusion that And just like me, doctors, they understand, they were taught the principles of vaccination when it was like smallpox and polio, and they still are grasping onto those straws and saying, oh look how well it worked to eradicate smallpox.
But they're not looking at the data.
It's easy to believe a lot of stuff without looking at the data yourself.
When I looked at the data myself on the flu vaccine, I was appalled at what I learned.
I hadn't been taking it.
I was appalled at what I learned, though, about it and the thought of mandating it when
there was no benefit.
It was absolutely insane.
The fact that it's kind of like the mask thing.
Even if it worked, it doesn't work where you have to wear the mask and six feet into the
restaurant because you're dangerous, but then you sit at your table without the mask.
Put your dirty mask on the table, put your hands all over everything, put your phone
on it, and you're safe.
But to go to the bathroom, you have to put the mask back on to walk by tables of people without masks.
That's not contagion control.
That's insanity.
And that's the way the flu vaccine is basically the same thing.
Well, it's worse, it turns out, I think.
But, you know, that's what woke me up.
And so now I'm paying attention.
And I realize how, you know, I mean, I vaccinated my children because I trusted the medical establishment.
I should have known better.
Years ago, I researched for the Navy Research Advisory Committee, and I was wandering around doing some stuff.
I ran into a colleague of mine who had participated.
He was looking at the Gulf War Syndrome.
You probably know this, but most people don't.
The Gulf War Syndrome, which caused ALS at four times the background rate, was caused by squalene as an adjuvant in an emergency use authorization just like this.
They had to rush, rush, rush get this vaccine out.
No independent analysis, no independent thought, no oversight.
And it turned out to cause bad side effects in a lot of active duty and reservists that went to that war.
Well, so people pinged on the CDC and said, we don't want squalene in our vaccines.
Look at what it did to these guys.
And we were assured that it would not be in our vaccines.
And then I discovered four or five years ago, they put it back in the flu ad.
So, you cannot tell me that the people running Big Pharma, the scientists in charge, did not know what squalene did.
They labeled it MF59, so your doctor didn't know what it was.
This is a level of criminality and psychopathology that's running this pharmaceutical vaccine program.
And I think when you recognize that, then you have to realize you cannot just take this on a matter of faith.
Here we have a whole world, at least the United States population, most of these people wouldn't buy the first edition of a new car line because they're worried about the bugs not being worked out.
But they're willing to stand in line and get a vaccine based on the good faith of this pharmaceutical cabal.
I just can't believe it.
And we're not.
And we're not.
And I, you know, the two parts is I want to make a comment about is like what Bobby Kennedy has said multiple times when he says, you know, we're trusting people that are known criminal felons that have killed millions of people and paid fines for it.
But somehow we're trusting this shot.
You know, the same people who statedly say that they would kill you, you know, and then I you know, you work and you know, it's interesting if you being an orthopedic surgeon and I was an ER doc, you know, Because, you know, ER docs do a lot of orthopedics, right?
And I often had said, if I really had my career to do over again, because as an osteopath, and I do a lot of osteopathic manipulation and hands-on things, I would have.
I would have.
I probably would have gone into orthopedics because I really, the orthopedic surgeons at the ER where I was, they got to where they, I was like one of their partners.
They trusted everything that I did.
You think it needs to go to surgery?
Call in the team.
They wouldn't even look at it.
You know, they wouldn't do that with my other ER guys.
No, that's right.
But they trusted me.
But I've been out of the conventional Since 1998.
My last ER shift, when I was setting up my clinic, my integrative clinic in Cleveland, was in January of 1998.
And so I always feel like I can throw stones because I used to live in that house.
But I haven't in a long time.
And it's never ceased to amaze me in all of these years of this educational stuff I've done.
Why physicians are so willingly blinded and not willing to examine anything?
I mean, they just are like, right, don't confuse me with any new information.
They're wearing their mask across their eyes instead of here.
Right.
I mean, and what do you know?
What is the pulse on that for you?
I mean, especially with in light of covid, are they I mean, I've seen more videos with the frontline doctors sort of coming on and what Simone Gold has done and those sorts of things.
There seems to be a growing number, but in relationship or proportion to the number of licensed physicians, it's still pretty minuscule.
What is your pulse on that?
Well, I'll tell you how we got here, and I don't think it was by accident.
This is a talk I'm starting to give about the weaponization of medicine, and what happened is, you know, during the Obama era and we got Obamacare, one of the things it really did was it corralled physicians into a pen, because it made it so almost impossible to... I mean, I used to be in private practice.
I had seven employees.
I was doing spine surgery every day, and I worked in a hospital.
I went up there, but they didn't pay me.
I was all independent.
So I wasn't under their thumb in the sense that they could order me around.
I had to meet certain criteria, but you know what it is when you're in a hospital but not of the hospital.
Well, what has happened through the Accountable Care Act is that people, the hospitals have bought out these practices and very few doctors are independent now.
So we have a situation where, and this is what I figured out just recently, You know, what has happened unbeknownst to us is that over a period of time, and I actually, I say this to people, I had the honor of having fallen asleep right in front of Tony Fauci when I was an intern in medicine, in a room with four people, so needless to say I didn't get an immunology fellowship.
But Tony Fauci is the key to this whole thing.
The reason he didn't get fired is he is like the Deep State's biggest asset.
So what they've been doing is all these Gates Foundation and Rockefeller Foundation, all these different foundations, through Bill Gates, they funneled money into the NIH across the desk of Tony Fauci.
He had half a trillion dollars given to him just for HIV.
And another $300 billion for miscellaneous stuff that he could use.
And he funded all this research and all these things.
But along the way, all the corona research, he's funded the Wuhan lab.
He literally funded PLA virologist Dr. Xi to come to our bioweapons lab at USAMRID and do research on virus on Marburg.
That's insane.
But he's been doing all this, and we didn't pick up that the centralization of power of this one person at the NIH, through his funding, he's got all these university hospitals controlled.
Huge money.
You know, all these university hospitals depend on NIH funding now.
And he's at the heart of that.
And he's got a Rolodex and a long arm.
He can jerk your money if you don't say what they want.
Unfortunately, we're in a situation now where all the doctors work for these hospitals, and so you've got three tiers of doctors in these big hospitals.
You've got the administrative guys that took the money, the leaders and all that stuff.
And, you know, I think if they're not psychopaths, they've sold their souls over this.
Because if they're not reading the literature and they're not appreciating that we can treat these things and save people's lives, and if they don't realize that... See, I found out the hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine thing, these lysosomatropic agents, they go back to 1974.
So we stifled the ability to Save people from viral illness, whether we're talking flu or not.
Every year they told us, take your flu vaccine, because 60,000 people died.
Well, it wasn't of flu, but it was of influenza.
It was a virus, influenza-like illness.
We could have maybe saved them, because we've had a possibility of treatment, and they stifled it, suppressed it, for all these years.
So, there are doctors at the top of academic medicine that must have known this.
And then, below them, way down on the bottom, are people like my son, actually, who's still in training.
And, they can't speak out.
They're stuck.
I hear from medical students, you probably do too, medical students, residents, that are very sad about the moral quagmire they see their profession going into, but they can't really do anything about it.
They're too low on the level.
But then you've got this big middle ground, and these are the people I think you're really talking about.
That big middle segment are doctors who, they're out of training.
But they work for hospitals.
And the hospitals are either academic hospitals that are bought by the NIH directly, or they're smaller hospitals that are bought through group purchasing organizations with the same kind of restrictions.
And if they speak, they can lose their job, like I did.
And I never tried to drag my hospital into it, but I'm sure that was how the contract got terminated.
It puts you on the firing line.
And so, what happens is you're afraid to talk, because you've got a spouse, you've got kids, you've got a mortgage, and you don't want to do that.
Now, I gave them a pass for a while, because I admit, we were censored so much about treatment, about ivermectin, all these things we could do, that people, it's possible they really didn't know, but I'm not giving them a pass anymore.
You know, at some point, guys, if you don't read the literature, if you don't pay attention, if you don't follow the censorship, realize what you don't know.
The key is to understand what you're not being told by the powers that want you to do other things.
You're not morally exempt anymore.
You become your parents no matter what.
You try to avoid that sometimes.
My father was a physician.
He couldn't go to World War II because of a medical condition, but he was a student of the German doctors, of what happened and how they went so bad over that period of time.
And I kind of took that on, and I started reading about Carl Brandt, who, like me, was an orthopedic surgeon, but he was a spine surgeon and trauma doctor.
But he was Hitler's surgeon.
Dr. Brandt didn't kill anybody directly.
He was a really good guy, actually, who was a very good surgeon and really saved a lot of lives.
But he was hung at the gallows at Nuremberg, and he was hung for crimes against humanity.
And what was his crime?
His crime was that He oversaw, he was the titular head of the experimentation that took place in the death camps.
And so what he actually got hung for was allowing those people to be experimented on without informed consent and under coercion.
Yes, and the point I'm making is that is what's happening today.
Most doctors, our medical profession is not only allowing people, but they're recommending that people be experimented on.
These are experimental genetic agents that we're being given.
They're recommending that patients go be involved in an experiment without informed consent.
You know, the informed consent that I hear from people is they just said, roll up your sleeve.
That's not informed consent.
And I don't think it's crazy to suggest, you know, the Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations said it is illegal to force or coerce anybody to take part in an experiment.
You must have the ability to opt out.
And what are we hearing?
Oh, well, you won't be able to fly.
You won't be able to work in a hospital.
You won't be able to have a job, maybe next buy groceries.
I mean, that's coercion.
So we have a whole society doing what we tried the Nazi doctors for.
And I'm just saying that is not an exaggeration.
At some point there were a lot of good guys.
We take away the wrong lessons from Germany.
By picturing those guys all as monsters, we think, well, we're not monsters, so we can't be guilty like that.
Those were everyday guys, just like us.
They were doctors, just like us.
They were once idealistic medical students, just like us.
But they didn't get off the bus when they should have.
They rode the bus over the cliff.
And I would say that right now, it's time to get off the bus.
You've got to choose a side right now.
Either you're going to speak for your patients, or you're going to speak for these psychopaths that run the government and our pharmaceutical industry.
There's nothing in between.
I may sound harsh, but I think that's where we are.
Nothing that you said could be closer to the truth.
Talk about, you know, what you were saying about Navy pilots being hovering over top of the target.
You know, my husband was a Navy pilot.
He was career Navy, and he said when they used to walk around the plains, you know, he spent a lot of his time in Guam, and he said when they walked around the plains, there was an expression they had that amongst themselves was, if there's any doubt, there's no doubt.
Which means if there's any doubt there's a problem with this plane, there's no doubt it ain't flying.
It ain't flying.
We're not getting in this today.
So, and he used to always hear me say about, it was a second marriage for both of us, and he used to always say that, The same thing should apply to like these vaccines, because he's heard me talking about it all these times.
If there's any doubt that even some of these shots are causing harm, there should be no doubt that there's a complete moratorium on all of it until we prove it one way or another.
And so that was on things with much less travesty than what we're seeing now and experiencing with these COVID shots.
And, you know, with the mechanism of injury of what we're talking about, in fact, I'm doing a big seminar, online seminar, on May 8th in just a couple of weeks, on this 20 mechanisms of injury that I have pulled out of the medical literature.
I think so.
And now, since I drew the line, I mean, I got to 10, and then I found a couple more, and then I got to 20, and I said, OK, I've got to draw the line somewhere, and you need to, like, move this project forward.
It was so much work.
Lee, you just can't even imagine.
I put in a couple thousand hours of work on this over the last year.
Since I've drawn the line, the e-book actually got delivered back to me today and we're planning this training because you just can't read the manual as a lay person and get it.
Doctors should read it and sleep on it.
But lay people need the training on it.
I found four more mechanisms of injury.
And I'm thinking, if this little osteopathic doctor sitting at the computer at 11 o'clock at night doing research can find 24 mechanisms of injury, how much have these other people known that they've had access to the smartest minds, the largest libraries, The unrestricted, you know, medical journal articles funded, so that's what they're doing.
And I've said from the beginning that this shot is, because we can't call it a vaccine because it's not, I call it an injection or a shot, is a well-designed killing machine.
Well designed.
And now that we're seeing all these things with the blood clots and, you know, at the beginning I said a lot that I really didn't think that this shed, because it wasn't a full virus, but I wasn't thinking properly.
I mean, we could traditionally think about shedding in terms of whole viruses.
But, you know, we're injecting messenger RNA and we're injecting parts of DNA that then create proteins, that those proteins, I think, are now what's shedding.
And some of the messenger RNA, too, that's actually shedding and getting out into the environment.
And I read an article, I want to just reference this here real quickly this morning, because I read this article.
It was from 2002, if I can pull it up really quick.
Okay.
That talks about this shedding sort of thing.
So I'm going to ask you this when I'm pulling this up.
When you say that you think this is being really harsh, I don't think it's harsh at all.
In fact, I would say it's not harsh enough.
Where do you think we should go with that?
Because you're absolutely right about choosing.
We are now at a tipping point, I think, in all of humanity that we're going to have to be making some choices.
You're either Going to follow the pharmaceutical gods or you're going to follow real God?
Or you're going to get a shot and have lifetime consequences or you're not?
I mean, where do you think we should go to try to win as many of these doctors over as we possibly can and to let them understand what you just said about the Nuremberg Codes?
Well, you know, part of the problem is this is a war that's been going on against us for a long time.
It didn't start two years ago with COVID.
It didn't start five years ago.
It started 20, 25 years ago, even more, with our medical education.
You know, I read an article, it's called The Psychopathy of Totalitarianism.
It was written by a mathematician, so it's a little bit obtuse in writing style, but he's very good about explaining why, to prop up a totalitarian...
Takeover you need kind of convince people of a reality that isn't true whether it's you know the communism will give you a great future or whatever in this case They've got they've got a pseudo reality going and but part of it is this notion that they fed our young physicians that That the only truth comes from the established medical journals, and that you need 30-year double-blind trials to do anything.
I mean, I'm having this discussion with my son and other people, you know, that, hey, you guys don't have 30-year double-blind trials on taking out an infected appendix, you know what I mean?
There was a British article years ago, very funny, about evidence-based medicine and the We've learned over the last 30 years that we don't value trusted observation by experienced physicians.
That's the one that really went by the wayside first.
You don't need a double blind style.
We don't do a trial there.
Not everything applies here.
We've learned over the last 30 years that we don't value trusted observation by experienced
physicians.
That's the one that really went by the wayside first.
The second thing is we're not teaching the importance of understanding body physiology,
which is what you're getting at when you're looking at all these mechanisms.
These guys have been...
It's not just that they've been told lies about treatment options.
They've been taught wrong ways, in my opinion, of thinking about medicine.
I know that makes me sound like an old fart.
Every generation probably thinks that.
We're the same age, so we're both old farts.
We were taught that if it doesn't make sense to you physiologically, it probably isn't right, no matter what.
My other thing is, I've read the EUA on these medications, and I've read this recent paper that was sent to me by our writer at AFLDS about this thing.
It's coming out.
It's all this modeling.
It's gobbledygook.
If you need 20,000 statisticians and a supercomputer to determine whether something is functionally helpful or not, this probably is not.
I guess I would say that we've got a logic problem.
Look, this is the idea that we should accept authority.
It's truth from authority rather than authority from truth.
That's the bottom line here. We have all these doctors that are in the...
and that was the German...
You know, we inherited what the German-Prussian education system,
that we all stand in line and we all sit at the uniform desk
and we have uniformity of thought.
This is what we've been pressed on us for a long time.
And so young doctors, they just think we're crazy.
And that's the other thing is, and you're well aware of the term anti-vaxxer, but there are all these pejorative terms that have been used as a weapon of propaganda to demean your enemy, to demean the person that's speaking out against you.
And now it's, you know, it's conspiracy theorists, it's communists, it's whatever you... I mean, not communists, it's anti-communists like McCarthyite.
McCarthyism was a term that was coined by a guy that was a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist that was in the pay of the Soviet Union, we found out later.
So, this is what's been happening to us for 40, 50, 60 years.
So, I don't know how we... but I think it's just one mind at a time.
We have to keep speaking the truth.
I'm also a student of the history of the Soviet Union.
In speaking about how Stalin terrorized the population, they would say, you know it's true when it happens to you.
They heard these stories about the Czech taking people out in the middle of the night.
But they didn't believe it because it didn't happen to them.
It was so few and far between.
But that's how it's going to start.
It's going to start picking off people individually.
By the way, I actually talked to Judy Mikovits about Is that happening?
Because I heard this story.
A young woman that works in a beauty salon is the only person of a number of all the people working there that didn't get the vaccines, the so-called vaccines.
I call them experimental genetic agents.
What I won't use, by the way, is the term jab.
You notice how the newsmen are calling that the jab?
Why are they using that term?
It's because they don't want to use the word vaccine either.
It isn't legally a vaccine, I think.
But anyway, so she's the only one that's getting sick.
All the people with the vaccination are getting sick, so it's tempting to say, oh well, these vaccinated people, they got the good thing and they're not getting sick.
Well, what I asked her about, she said it's not the shedding of the, she doesn't think it's the mRNA or the DNA directly that's shedding.
She thinks it's reactivating latent viruses in your own genome, in your own system, which is a possibility.
I'm just running that by you.
I think that's a possibility, too, and I just want to interject here.
This is just for, because there have been hundreds and hundreds of people that have been joining us here.
So, and just in case you don't know, this is the wonderful Dr. Lee Merritt, who I finally got to talk to in person.
I mean, we need to like, you know, have a glass of wine and sit and talk for a few hours, I think.
Because one of the things I've said for a long time is, you know, the last of the thinking doctors died in the 1940s.
you know the thinking doctors the ones that use the British Medical Journal and
the Lancet to communicate they're like hey I just saw 20 patients that had this any
idea what's happening and they would look at the anatomy and the physiology and
the biochemistry
which is what we are supposed to be. Experts in anatomy physiology and
biochemistry we're not supposed to be just algorithm driven electronic computer driven
glorified drug reps you know writing words on a piece of paper handing them out
for a living you know I wanted to mention the way those the journals or they take
away the ability to do that in journals
because they have their own little screening yeah it Their journals are all censored.
They call it peer review, but it's actually censorship.
I just tried to publish an article.
We'll see if it gets published.
I sent it into the New England Journal.
I reviewed the VAERS on this thrombocytopenia issue, and I researched how we got rid of thalidomide, what that whole story was.
And my point about the article is, it's not just the thrombocytopenia.
There's a gradient.
Dr. Lentz, when it came to thalidomide, realized there was a gradient of presentation.
And you have to look at the whole gradient.
And when you do that for this problem we're seeing with these injections, what you're seeing is bleeding.
People will take the vaccine and then two days later they show up with a brain bleed.
And it's just, well, a 75-year-old with a brain bleed, that doesn't count.
Well, the problem is nosebleeds that you can't stop.
How many times have you had somebody get an injection, and it couldn't stop the bleeding from the injection site?
That's weird.
This is all sorts of weird bleeding stuff, but we're not looking at that because Where are the experts looking at that?
Again, what your point is, these guys at the top should know what they're... The VAERS is supposed to be used to look at unusual things, and yet they're ignoring this.
And when I tried to publish this paper online, I discovered the next censorship point.
I thought PLOS or Bio-IX or whatever that is, all these different online... You could pre-publish any... It's not peer-reviewed, but you could just put it up and let people think exactly like you're talking about.
You have to pay $2,300 to do that.
Really?
Yes.
So what they're doing is, if you are the last of the old breed of thinking physicians that aren't associated with a university hospital, that don't have a big financial base behind you, where it doesn't cost you anything, just cost your department, you're not going to publish there.
So you're only getting what the mainstream bought physicians and bought by the pharmaceutical companies are telling you.
That's the thing that's happening now.
I have no idea.
Yeah, I didn't either until recently.
That's why I thought, when you're talking about people sharing information on journals, that's why it doesn't happen anymore.
Well, peer review is actually such a scam anyways.
I mean, I always reference back, there was a study, this was done probably in the 80s, and it was so, to me it just said everything, and it just threw peer review out the window for me a long time ago, was that they did this, they designed this really well-designed, everything was exactly right, it was like the perfect study of everything, you know, you couldn't pick it apart at all.
And they submitted it for peer review.
And the one study, they used that template, and the one had a drug in it, and they submitted it.
Oh, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
Then they took the drug name out and put the name of an herb in it.
And everybody on peer review said, no way, it's a poorly designed study.
It doesn't work.
They flushed the whole thing.
And it was just a word search that they took out drug and they put in the name of an herb.
To me, that told me, back 30 years ago, everything I needed to know about peer review.
I do have one really important medical question I want to ask you.
As a spine surgeon, and as you know, I've been in the military as a military surgeon, and probably seen a lot of brain injuries and close head traumas and things like that.
There was a study, I mean, Eric Napudi posted this in this chat that we had the other day.
About cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, cerebral venous thrombosis, and central venous thrombosis, and transverse sinus thrombosis.
And for the listeners, the people that are listening, there's a very large cavernous, very large vein system that runs throughout your brain.
So through your carotid arteries you get all the blood that goes up, for the most part, and then it circulates around and then it drains back out through these very large brains in your in your head.
There's constant movement.
It's like a flowing river.
It flows all the time.
Out in nature, flowing rivers really don't freeze all the way to the bottom.
You make it a little freezing on the top, but the river still runs.
This is flowing blood that flows through your brain.
It goes up and out.
Suddenly, in all my years as an ER doc, I've talked to several other ER doctor friends
of mine.
None of us have ever seen one.
Not one.
Not one of the central venous thromboids where the entire vein clots all the way solid.
And this report had 237 cases from all three of the shots.
J&J shot, Moderna, and Pfizer, all causing this clotting.
And I can't even imagine how the horrifying pain that must be.
You know, because you've got a closed box, but the blood's still flowing up, but nothing's coming out, and it's an acute surgical emergency.
There was an article that was published, I think, two weeks ago in the New England Journal.
It was a case report of five cases, and four of the cases died.
And the guy that lived And the fifth person was, I'm sure, probably going to die soon after that.
So, I mean, why doesn't that get anybody's attention?
I mean, this is, you know, I said to Larry Pilevsky, you know, I said, have you ever heard of this ever in all your years?
He said, if anybody ever talked about it, it was like a one-off.
It happened because of some horrible underlying genetic or disruption thing in the platelet system or something like that underneath.
It wasn't anything that was happening commonly.
Now we've got hundreds of thousands of cases of blood clots across the world from the AstraZeneca shot.
All of these shots are now causing this.
The new study that just came out yesterday that they said, hey, the Oxford study showed the AstraZeneca shot never worked from the beginning, which we who read the medical literature knew that.
Why isn't that just like this huge sound of alarm?
We've got a rare condition that's now showing up In 137 people in 10 weeks!
I mean, to me, it's just flabbergasting.
Well, it is, and I'm with you.
Now, I'm not a neurosurgeon.
I'm an orthopedic spine surgeon, but the point is that I deal with trauma and all sorts of stuff.
I hung out with the neurosurgeons all the time.
I never saw one either.
But let's back up and remember this.
I tell people this story about Guillain-Barre.
When I was a medical student in 1976, we read about Guillain-Barré.
We learned about Guillain-Barré ascending paralysis, and that it could occasionally happen after a viral illness.
In my four years in medical school, in all my time in residency, and I actually studied neurology at the Queens Square Institute of Neurology for a couple months as a medical student, 800-bed hospital of neurologic patients.
I did not see a case of Guillain-Barré.
But think what's happened since we've been pushing the flu shots over the last 20 years.
We're all, we have everybody, every nurse, every doctor knows somebody or heard the story of somebody or has known a patient or seen a patient with Guillain-Barré.
Now, and so, and yes, like a few weeks ago, I was asked to see a patient because they had weakness of their legs.
And my colleague, who's a surgeon, said, would you go see so-and-so because she's complaining of back pain and leg weakness, and her daughter brought her in because she can't get around.
So the story is, she was living independently, but she developed some leg weakness over a week.
Then she developed such weakness that even her daughter couldn't take care of her, brought her into the hospital.
Now, she obviously could give a history because my friend was talking to her, but by the time I saw her the next day, she could not open her eyes.
She couldn't smile.
I said, you know she was trying.
She'd kind of grimace a little bit when you say, can you smile for me?
Can you open your eyes?
She tried, but she couldn't do it.
She had what's called locked-in syndrome.
She had such severe Guillain-Barre.
I called my friend.
I said, What's her vaccine status?
She doesn't have spinal stenosis.
She's taken a huge, generalized neurologic hit from something.
And it turned out this all started a week after her first COVID vaccine.
And I've heard now of three other cases like that.
Again, you're right.
We should be paying attention.
And I'm going to quote you exactly.
I'm going to read something.
This is from what the CDC says the point of VAERS is, the Vaccine Adverse Reporting System.
It says, the main goals of VAERS are, and then it has blah blah blah blah blah, but it says, detect new, unusual, or rare adverse events that happen after the vaccine.
Now, or watch for unexpected or unusual patterns in adverse event reports.
So, that's what my point is in writing the paper I just sent in.
I'm wondering if an orthopedic surgeon could see this, quite frankly, a second year medical student reading The Bears could see this, why are the doctors up on the top of this if they, you know, see this?
Which gets back to the point, and I give a lot of credit for Michael Yadin speaking up, you know, the former Pfizer.
Chief Science Officer who's saying they're trying to kill us.
He's finally come around to that.
And people like Peter McCullough and stuff, they started out just debating the science, but now they're pointing out the motive.
And that's what I would say.
Should we really believe that all the experts at the NIH, at the CDC, at the FDA, all our medical top scientists in the university hospitals are wrong about everything?
I mean, they're wrong about masks, social distancing, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, vaccines.
I mean, if you really look at the data, as an independent person that didn't have a grudge going into this, you start realizing they've not, on random chance alone, if they cared about the benefit of the human race and us as people, they would have said one thing in our benefit.
They didn't even tell us about vitamin D benefit, and now they're trying to arrest doctors that push vitamin D as a preventative?
NC, and Zinc, and all these things.
I mean, which are well documented.
Back to about Japanese studies on the flu and vitamin D. So, what's really going on here?
If you think these guys all just made innocent mistakes, that doesn't fit the data.
So, I think that's... And it doesn't even... See, they're violating their own policy.
Looking at VAERS by the CDC's own policy, they should be jumping all over what you're talking about.
That cavernous sinus thrombosis is unbelievable.
I mean, none of us have seen this.
We read about it.
It's one of those things you take tests on about your specialty boards, but that's what it was good for.
It's like a pheochromocytosis.
You know, it's like, you know, everybody's always looking for it.
Nobody ever finds it.
It's a really just for those listening.
It's a really rare and unusual thing.
But doctors all know what it is.
Right.
Right.
You know, and it's one of those things they tell you in medical school, you know, when you You know, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
Right.
You know, which means common things are common.
And if you hear something, you should think about common things.
But we all kind of look for the rare thing because, you know, it's kind of fun to find rare things once in a while, from a doctor's warped perspective.
But this is something that nobody's ever seen.
Nobody.
And yet it's becoming commonplace.
And they go, oh yeah, it's just a side effect.
Seriously, people.
This is not one zebra running through the bears.
This is a herd of zebras running through the bears.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And to have this, you know, and if anybody can pull up these bears reports and when you read them, your heart just breaks.
That's right.
That's what I said.
I actually wrote this, that's why I know the New England Journal probably won't publish it, because I said, just reading the data is not enough.
Just looking at this, you know, they love to say, and this is their excuse every time a problem comes out with a drug.
Well, we've given 41 million of these drugs, and there's only been seven deaths, but they're not reading the actual stories.
You know, the problem here is, unlike thalidomide, and I did do a lot of reading about thalidomide, you know, thalidomide caused those horrible birth defects.
And it was a drug that was for nausea.
It was like Miltown.
It was actually for anxiety and just relaxation, right?
For stress relief in the 50s.
That was a big thing.
But then Dr. McBride in Australia, who was an OBGYN doctor, realized it was excellent for pregnancy nausea, so-called morning sickness and things.
But one of the great things is that he was the doctor that gave the drug and he saw the consequences.
That was number one.
And number two, Dr. Lentz in Germany recognized that this was a, like I say, a cascading effect, that there were huge problems that you saw with these flipper arms, where the arms, you know, people remember thalidomide, you were missing parts of all of your extremities.
So sometimes your hands would be attached to your shoulders.
That was so overt, couldn't be missed.
But sometimes it was just a little band around a finger.
So he recognized it was a spectrum of disorders.
And those two guys, because of their, They were paying attention to their patients.
They saw this, and our problem is not just we're not looking at the VAERS, but the doctors prescribing these agents are not the ones looking at the problem.
They're going into the emergency room, and when they go in there, like with cavernous sinus thrombosis, I'm sure at first they didn't put the two and two together.
Now that one is so unusual that I hope that they finally did, it sounds like, but when you see Day after day in these reports and you read the narrative, 48 hours after the Pfizer vaccine had massive hemorrhage and died.
But they're 80 years old and so it was smart to somebody, but a lot of those who didn't get reported because it was just a brain bleed and elderly person that happens.
But when you look at the timing to the vaccination, you know, it's like, how many people now with this vaccine are waking up dead?
And it's within like 24 and 48 hours.
My ex-husband, he was a Marine pilot, just told me the same thing.
We had a friend that died.
I said, I just woke up in bed.
I mean, did not wake.
He was in bed, found dead.
Heart attack.
Okay, that happens.
But when does he have the vaccine?
Yeah, recently, just before that.
So, that's on and on.
It's one of the things that Dr. Suzanne Humphreys found in all of her research.
Being a nephrologist, she's an expert.
She comes in and patients are admitted and they've got some mild elevated D-linocreatinine and she gets called in.
What she found in some of her early research was that every fall, There would be this huge influx of patients going into the hospital that they had stable chronic kidney disease and that they would suddenly just fall off the cliff and have to be on dialysis.
And their hospitals and clinics in northern Maine just were overflowing.
And so she just did something really novel.
When she would go in to see a new patient, she would just say, have you had a shot?
And she wasn't even an anti-vaxxer.
She was nothing.
She was just trying to make a correlation at that point in time.
And so she just went in and said, have you recently had a flu shot with the mercury or a pneumonia shot with the phenols in it?
And like 90-some percent of the patients said, yeah, I just had a flu shot within the last two weeks.
She found it, like, just eye-popping.
Like, how can this possibly be?
She collected all this data, put it together, took it to her business partners, her fellow doctors, and they went, No.
Doesn't matter.
That's not correct.
That's not it at all.
And I got to thinking about, this is a 400-bed hospital where she works, so it's a relatively smallish hospital.
Across the country, how many billions of dollars were we spending each fall of people with chronic kidney disease that were suddenly admitted and having to be in the hospital for a week or two?
They'd be dialyzed, which would clean out their blood.
They'd get rid of their, you know, they'd get rid of the mercury and all that stuff.
Their numbers would come back to baseline and they'd be discharged.
I mean, talk about a racket.
Right, right.
Well, I've always said, you know, now let me just point out what happened in this COVID thing.
I think it was these 19, I mean the 2018 to 19, but it could have been the 2017 to 18.
It was a study done by the Department of Defense, but it was published in January of 2020.
So it was out there, and it was a study that looked at young active-duty people and their spouses, and they looked at two groups, people that took the flu vaccine and people that didn't.
And they were looking for viral interference.
The idea is I take a vaccine for one virus, what does it do to my acquisition of other viruses?
And they showed that These people had a 36% increased risk of acquiring coronavirus.
Not the COVID type, but the standard old, give you a cold type coronavirus.
But it went up by 36%.
Here we have the VA that deals with veterans, and we have the CDC.
During this outbreak of a coronavirus virus, SARS-CoV-2 may be altered in a lab, but it's still a coronavirus.
They were saying, we don't know how to treat this, but we recommend you still go ahead and get your flu shot.
Again, these are the people that are supposed to be reading the medical literature.
It shouldn't be the guys in the Veterans Today or whatever that magazine is that pointed this out.
Outbreak when people are dying and they're all this stuff happening their VA was still recommending flu shots saying we don't know how to treat COVID But we think you should get your flu shot now.
I have to say the CDC if you watch they very slowly Eliminated their multiple flu vaccine ads from their site.
Oh now they're coming back But they were off there for a while because they were afraid they were gonna get caught about this And I've always said wouldn't it be interesting to go into a nursing home because you know, this is happening I believe this happening just talking to people that work in nursing homes Look at the death per day over the course of a year and then map it as in the relationship to now look when the flu vaccine was given because they tend to give them all you know like over a week or two period to all their residents.
Wouldn't it be interesting to look at?
Years ago, I gave a talk at Cleveland State University to a bunch of nurses, and they didn't know it was going to be an anti-vaccine talk.
They all signed up for this talk.
Some of them got up and walked out.
They were really mad.
This was years ago.
But I remember on one of the breaks, when I got to talking about the flu shot, there was an older nurse.
I mean, this was maybe 15 years ago.
And I'm guessing she was probably in her 60s.
And she came over to me really quietly on the side.
And she says, you know, I work in this nursing home.
And I've seen it year after year after year, that when they walk through, and it's the time of year that they give the flu shots, within a couple of weeks, we'll lose 7, 8, 10 people.
I've always wondered in the back of my mind if it had something to do with that.
Well, Lee, we're going to, you know, Instagram's going to cut us off here in a couple of minutes, because it really only lets you go for an hour.
But this has just been unbelievably delightful.
Oh, my honor.
Oh, it's just been just so great.
And the things that we've covered have just been so fascinating.
And we're going to pull this down off of Instagram really fast so that they don't need it, because they've eaten some of my good interviews, and it will be put up into the podcast.
But just in the final closing here, in just a couple of minutes, we've probably got about maybe three minutes left, what would you like to leave everybody with, and how can they follow you and be in contact with you?
Well, I have a website that my son made for me.
It's called themedicalrebel.com.
I try to post up-to-date stuff.
It's a work in progress.
We have a shop.
We sell some nice supplements to help people get through this, but really it's for information.
This could go away if we took off our masks, hugged our relatives, got our old people out of isolation in the nursing homes, and got on with our lives.
Because even if you believe all this, even if you want to believe that masks work, and social distancing, and washing your hands a hundred times a day, are you willing to do it for decades?
Are you willing to subject your children to this for decades?
Because we have just entered the age of viral warfare, essentially, bioweapons.
Another one could be lobbed on us tomorrow.
Don't think that you'll get away with one vaccine.
You're going to be vaccinated to death on this thing, literally.
Literally.
And just like when we entered the nuclear age, we built bomb shelters, right?
I remember those years in the 50s.
But you didn't live in them for 40 years, and we can't either.
This is not an adequate response.
We have to take this on head-on.
We have to realize the psychological operation against us and fight back.
Wow.
Well, thank you so much, and I'm so glad you stepped into the ring with us.
You know, we've been waiting for people like you for a while, you know?
I've been in the background quietly.
Yeah, well, it's time, you know, you've got to pick up your sword and walk forward.
So thank you guys so much for joining us here today on this special edition on Saturday morning.
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Thank you so much.
Thank you.
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