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April 15, 2021 - Jim Fetzer
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The Wisdom Circle/The Raw Deal (14 April 2021) with Nicholas Kollerstrom, Ph.D.
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November 9th, 1989.
History is made.
The Berlin Wall falls.
Years pass.
Decades end.
A new century is born.
In 2021, one wall remains at Revolution Radio.
The wall between Studio A, The Wisdom Zone, and Studio B, The Law Deal.
The Wall Falls.
History is made.
Wisdom Circle Password Deal Equals.
The Event.
James Fentzer.
David Scorpio.
Giuseppe Vaffanculo.
Brutal Honesty Chris Reiner.
History is made.
And now... The Event.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Raw Deal, joining with the Wisdom Circle, David Scorpio and Giuseppe Vafangulo.
Chris Weinart cannot be with us today, he's on the road, but I'm very delighted to introduce our featured guest today.
He's a dear personal friend, colleague of longstanding, Perhaps the man I most admire on the face of earth.
He's shown immense integrity, scholarly expertise, tremendous resourcefulness.
He's a leading expert on the London 7-7 subway bombing, where his book Terror on the Tube is now in its fifth, sixth, seventh.
Nick will have to bring us up to date on which edition.
He's been an iconoclast of longstanding.
He's published what may be the definitive scientific treatment Of the narrative of the camps at the end of World War II, we all know about.
Nick has shattered the myth in his brilliant book, Breaking the Spell, for which I was honored to write the introduction.
He has a new book about the coronavirus pandemic.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a sensational, sensational opportunity to have him here.
Nick Kohlerstrom, welcome to the event.
Well, it's a pleasure to be back here again, Jim.
I don't know if I can live up to a plug like that, but we'll see, yeah.
I don't have a lot of doubt about it.
I'm going to turn this over to David Scorpio and Giuseppe Vaffangulo for an initial series of questions.
Scorpio, your take.
Well, it's great to have you on the show.
It's the first time we've talked, and your books really are quite amazing.
I was wondering, have you had any blowback from where you live, given the rather volatile subject matter you've been writing about?
I was just curious about how things are in England.
Have you had any personal repercussions?
Um, well, years ago I did.
Sorry, what were you?
Scorpio?
Yeah, yeah, Scorpio, yes.
I'll call you Scorpio.
Okay, Mr. Scorpio, yeah.
Well, years ago I got heavily damned and vilified.
But I didn't fade away, you know.
And I do get damned now and then in the newspapers.
Ethically damned.
But, I mean, nobody's throwing stones at me or anything.
And I think one has to learn to live without fear, you know.
You do what you believe in, and go ahead and do it for God's sake.
Don't let anyone intimidate you.
And if you can, To form a group, a group of kindred spirits.
That's what we do.
We've got a group, 9-11 Keep Talking, that meet once a month and In these times, lockdown times, we've been doing it on Zoom and so that just helps you to keep your sanity, you know, just by meeting people on the same wavelength and have a shared Google group that you can chat with.
I would recommend that, especially in these COVID times when you can easily have a complete division within your own family, you know, which is deeply shattering, and how you cope with it.
That's what I say.
I mean, I've had a few books banned by Amazon, you know.
But on the other hand, it does take them out of the books, because they sell.
They like having books that sell.
And there is life after being banned by Amazon.
Like this coronavirus hoax book, A Skeptic's Guide.
Amazon did eventually ban that.
It's just the algorithm, you know, hoax and coronavirus.
They will ban it, but you can still get it.
Just put in the name on the internet and you'll find places that are on Google and you'll find places that sell it.
So there is life after being banned by Amazon.
And so I think it's important that we don't despair, you know.
Scorpio, just for historical background, when Nick first began publishing about The labor camps in Germany and expose that Zyklon B was being used for delousing to kill body lice because they were spreading typhus and dysentery throughout the camps and you can't get any work out of a corpse.
He was booted from his post at University College London, held for some 17 years as a form of punishment.
I would also mention one of the, yes, brilliant book, Breaking the Spell. I would also mention
that when the then prime minister was announcing to the public that they were going to be very
upset with anyone who contested the official narratives of 9-11 or the 7-7 subway bombing.
Nick promptly took himself down to Scotland Yard to turn himself in with a copy of his book, Terror on the Tube, because he knew it was in violation of the PM's order.
But Scotland Yard declined to arrest him.
Yeah.
Well I think we need to affirm that we are law-abiding citizens, Jim.
Believe in law and order.
I think people come for it all.
So great attitude, Nick. I really appreciate it.
Yeah, you want it, Ed.
Well this book was banned, obviously it's banned by Amazon, eventually they banned it, but it's still selling quite a bit.
It's a bit harder to find Where to buy it from?
You have to hunt around a bit.
I think it's a best-selling revisionist book.
So as revisionist books go, it is selling very well.
And it's been upgraded and it's been checked by various experts, so I'm very pleased.
That was produced under enormous stress.
When everyone told me my life was over, it was all over now, you know, you'll be chucked out of your college and you've just got to be living in the shadows for the rest of your life.
So I then produced that book and that did turn things around a bit, you know.
What are the One of the benefits of Nick's research was that he had access to the British death books, where the British had cracked the German code and were able to keep copies of all their meticulous records about the inmates in the camps, their age at death, their race, their gender, their ethnicity.
So that he was able to secure confirmation for what it heretofore stood as the International Committee of Red Cross official recording, where they recalibrated in 1993 and determined that the total number of inmates who had died from all causes combined was 296,081, none of whom died from being put to death in gas chambers.
When Nick explained, you know, they did use Zypon B, but the number who died was overwhelmingly smaller, a minuscule percentage, and none of them died from being put in gas chambers.
And of course, historically, there's a tremendous amount of substantiating evidence, but the great advantage Nick had was access to the UK death books.
Nick, Yeah, well that was amazing.
We've got the National Archives, right, all the wartime records in the West London, and they've just been declassified after 50 years of being top secret.
So there they were, lying there.
And no historian would touch them because they didn't show any holocaust, you know.
These were the British intelligence eavesdropping on the German labour camps, right, for 13 months, getting all the radio messages, decrypting them.
The Germans didn't realise we could decrypt the messages.
So that is the most authentic possible information about the German labour camps, what was happening around 1942.
And they just show A concern that the various different ethnic groups be treated properly and be put to good use and get the best work out of them and moved around between camps.
Then they show the catastrophic process when typhus broke out in 1942 and how they had to institute this cleaning hygiene program with Zyklon for de-lasting clothing and mattresses and it shows them attempting to cope with this whole catastrophe.
And so I published those.
I don't understand why it's a scoop.
I don't know why no one else did that.
But I published that together with the other thing I'm fascinated by, which is measurement of chemical residue of cyanide in the walls of the labour camps.
That gives you a best memory of where cyanide was used.
It's still there, 60 years later, as the permanent cyanide on cyanide.
And that shows the buildings where the zirconium was actually used.
So, a couple of those again.
Gerbhard Rudolf, who has a background in chemistry, who did actual measurements of the walls and the blue staining in the areas, Yeah.
that were used for de-lousing, but in none of the alleged gas chambers,
which of course we know from the Richter report of the trial of Ertzsandl,
were not remotely feasible to be actually used for the purpose of gas chambers,
but where of course we know it's a necessity for the Israelis, for the Zionists,
to conceal the facts of the matter because Israel's political clout derives
from a Western sense of guilt over the Holocaust, and therefore they cannot possibly allow it
to be exposed as a sham, as a myth, as a fraud.
Just saying.
So, Scopio, would you like to comment on this, Scopio?
What would you say?
Scopio departed momentarily.
This is Giuseppe, though.
Go ahead, Giuseppe.
Pick it up.
Hi, Giuseppe.
All right, you got it.
Mike, it's great to be on a show with you, Dr. Kallistrom.
I'm a big fan of your books.
I own I'm looking right now at the, uh, you can't see this video, but I'm holding up both the Great British Corona Hoax and Breaking the Spell.
I probably own them both.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Good.
Good for you, Chuck.
Good for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's great news.
That's great news, yeah.
I was just saying, KSHSF, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, right.
My question initially for you, Nick, is to what do you see as the similarities between the great lies of the holo hoax and the great lies of the great British and worldwide corona hoax?
Oh, that's a heavy number.
Well, Generally, British politicians don't seem committed to finding out what is true.
There seems to be an ethos that great, magnificent lies can move the people much more easily and more deeply than trying to be honest with people.
The great thing in common is fear, isn't it?
We've been absolutely blasted with fear over the last year.
of a phantomic virus that isn't really increasing the death rate.
So it's fear we're getting, and the retrospectively constructed narrative at Nuremberg was to create an image of some ghastly monster, the wicked evil Nazis, and that could be used to Manipulate people ever since, you know?
The whole century after Nuremberg, they could always invoke this dreadful image of wickedness, which is a phantomic image.
There weren't those wicked Nazis, in order to justify, not only justify the Second World War, but to invoke whenever they needed it.
Whenever something that looking a bit right-wing was there, or a bit too nationalistic, but too strong nationalism, that they could use that to invoke.
To scare people.
So perhaps the idea of the Great Illusion, what in the Star Wars film is called the Phantom Menace, that is terrifically important for any peace activists to understand.
The way the politicians conjure up and use the Phantom Menace, I would say, yeah.
There's, of course, more and more evidence every single day that the coronavirus is a phantom itself as well, that there's no increase.
We have a report from the insurance industry.
Ben Swan did a brilliant job of bringing on an expert that the insurance industry has made no adjustment in its rates for any kind of insurance as a consequence of the coronavirus.
We have a new report, too, now, just out today, that the vaccinations aren't making a difference, that the rate of infection is the same with or without the vaccination.
And, of course, we're getting a huge amount of evidence about the damage the vaccinations do.
Further substantiation, for example, the point made by Judy Mekovits last week, when she was on this very show with us.
Yeah, that one of the potential effects of the shot is the development of prions, the production of prions, which bring about mad cow disease, or in this case, mad man disease, that is going to eat holes in our brains.
Nick, I can't think of a better reason to avoid the shot than that, not to mention sterility.
Sterility, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Nick, go ahead.
Well, I think there's a whole zombie apocalypse we've got coming, possibly later this year.
The thing is that this mRNA jab we've been given, which isn't really a vaccine at all, it will duplicate inside the human organism.
That's the uncanny thing.
The mRNA has the ability to duplicate itself.
in the cellular metabolism and so that that is happening now to people who've got it and there may be a result in six months or a year's time when it can suddenly have an effect and kill people and it's been compared to something where there's an on button but no off switch when you take this jab and you're taking a gamble to interfere in your own Cell metabolism and reproductive ability which is untested.
It's just so incredible.
People want to take this thing which hasn't been tested.
So there may be some zombie apocalypse coming up where just the things that Jim said will be happening.
People will discover that they're sterile And all sorts of nightmares will then begin to develop and the people who haven't taken the vaccine will be the people of the future.
Because they will A. be still alive and B. be able to reproduce.
Right, and that's going to include a lot of migrants they're bringing into the United States, and it seems to me they're purposely letting them come in without any testing.
I bet they're not going to be subjected to the... they multiply, you know, they're very fertile and reproductive.
We found this in Europe too, of course, from the African...
is that they're very reproductive.
So this is the massive displacement of whites by means of blacks who are coming in
for the Israelis appear to have been the masterminds behind it with a Callergy plan
now being adapted to the United States.
Scorpio, your thoughts.
Well, yeah, this is great.
I want to bring in another Star Wars reference here.
We need to make a clone army of Nick because he's a man of great courage and a man of great intellect too.
I really like your attitude, Nick.
I guess my question is, What do you think the endgame of this agenda they're currently doing with this whole, you know, coronavirus scandemic and this new system that they want to bring about?
What do you think the endgame is and do you think this nefarious plan is going to work?
I was curious what your thoughts are on people's reaction there in England and if people are getting angry and trying to resist it.
Yeah, well Scorpio, I'm a science historian and I like kind of factual details.
I generally like seeking out exact details of what happens rather than making huge general predictions, you know.
So I've done an update of this book, second edition, bringing out what happened last year and what might happen, but When I was doing it, it's so strange that these vast apocalyptic possibilities are looming, which seem like science fiction.
They seem so much like science fiction.
Will there be nanodust, nanoparticles in these injections, this sort of thing?
Or the ID2020?
ID2020, is this linked with a cashless society?
So what is happening, it's not just a mock phantom disease with a vaccine, it's a whole plan for global control
of human beings that's just kind of materializing before our eyes and we just don't yet know
to what extent it's going to happen.
You see, I mean the British have a long tradition of being independent And if they say no, I'm not going to take the vaccine, generally speaking, I'll be surprised if politicians can make them.
We're giving every sort of encouragement.
There's strong opposition here to the idea of making a vaccine passport, you know, or compulsory for travel or going to pubs.
There's strong opposition to that.
So we've just got to wait and see what happens.
As regards to what the overall plan is, I would say that there are possibilities here that are just taking shape.
I mean, there's a whole lot of people suddenly talking about nuclear war in Europe, or as if we're going towards a war situation.
So very extreme options seem to be gathering here.
And I think to answer your question, we should wait a few months and see whether These very dire possibilities really do kick in if some large proportion do actually start dying off, which I personally suspect may happen, but we can't be sure.
Yeah, so that's about all I can say.
Giuseppe, wouldn't you agree that the reason they're rushing the cadence, they want everyone to get the shots right away, which is the pounding message from the Biden administration, before people start dropping dead or going mad around them and they see the effect.
Oh, absolutely.
And plus, keep in mind that both Dr. Judy Majkovic and Dr. Kerry Medej on my show, The Perfect Triangle, both said that they believe as much as 50% of this initial rollout of the shot is a placebo, which will have very little effect on the recipient.
Wow.
I'd like to get Nick's thoughts and Jim, your thoughts.
Yesterday, Matt Agouris, an independent, muckraking journalist, wrote a story that's been on multiple sites alternative news sites and the headline reads conspiracy theory comes true as pentagon creates implantable microchip to detect COVID which has always been the goal of the internationalist jew banking cabal to be able to chip their 7.3 billion herd of goyim cattle.
What do you think of the pentagon and DARPA jumping in now?
Yeah.
Well, we're given a whole lot of nightmare possibilities to make us live in fear.
And I'd say, bear in mind this hasn't yet happened, and we can and must say no.
That's the important thing.
At the moment, Israel has taken more than any other country, the vaccines, at least more than 60%.
Second is Britain, UK.
About 50% of this country has been vaccinated.
And third is America.
You've had about 40% of the population being vaccinated, roughly, if you agree with that.
These are the top countries that have managed to persuade their population to take the jab.
And as Jim said, they're ramping up the fear to try and persuade people to take the jab before these negative effects start appearing.
And when they do, they're going to say it's some new variant of COVID that's doing it.
You can see that coming.
I mean, the data we really need is a division Of records of people who have taken it versus who haven't, and all deaths recorded.
That's what we'd like to see.
That's the simplest thing we'd like to see.
All deaths recorded, dividing people who've taken the jab and those who haven't.
I mean, if we could have that data, which obviously we're not going to be allowed to, that would be the simplest way of answering this.
But some problems with J&J causing this pause has led, you know, Anthony, Tony the Rat, Taushi to say he thinks it's only going to be temporary, you know, it's just a minor glitch.
But since the adverse reporting system only gets about 1% of the actual total when you start adding it up, They have thousands of deaths already recorded, and if you multiply that by a hundred, that's hundreds of thousands of deaths, and I think the public is going to start to get the message that maybe this isn't such a great idea after all.
As well as the deaths, there's also, in this country, a terrific increase in stillborn children.
From women who are foolish enough to take the vaccine while they're pregnant.
So that is a huge increase.
That's perhaps the most dramatic figure.
A huge increase in stillborn children.
I mean, that's the sort of thing that may get a lot worse, you know.
Giuseppe.
Nick, are you and Jim aware that in the United States, the VAERS, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, Recently, a Harvard University audit of that system
revealed that barely 1% of all actual adverse reactions, such as death, maiming, sickness that keeps you out of work,
dread, noteworthy injuries, less than 1% are actually reported
because the public find it too complex and the medical personnel are afraid of reporting
they fear retribution as far as losing their jobs.
And even as such in the United States, there's well over 2000 listed deaths in the last three
months which is about a 7,000% increase
over the last 10 years reporting.
And the funny thing is, is I know Europe's doing a little better job
being a little more honest with their numbers.
But the idea being that in reality, one, 2000 some deaths are really should be multiplied
by a hundred in the last three months because all these people are dying
and they're saying, oh no, no, they had a comorbidity which is an absolute ridiculous statement.
The genetic modifying injection is killing the recipient.
There's no doubt about it.
Absolutely, yeah.
I mean, I'd heard a figure of one-tenth.
I'm a bit surprised you say a hundredfold, that only about one-tenth of the adverse reactions to the vaccine are reported.
And let's be clear that America, especially, a tradition of doctors not wanting to hear about these adverse events, that there's no normal procedure for parents reporting if something terribly wrong happens after a vaccine.
I mean, I believe that you in America get more, kids get more vaccinated.
I think you have about 70 vaccines in childhood, don't you, than any other country, which is It's absolutely malevolent and there's nearly 250 slated to
be released in the coming decades.
So when you have a baby, if you even can have a baby with all the stillborn and the sterility
issues, you're You're going to have a child in, say, 2028, who is going to be getting, as a newborn, about 80 injections their first year of birth.
That is so criminal.
That is so heinous.
It is, yeah, yeah.
Can I ask you, what would happen if parents try to say no?
Supposing parents said, uh, sorry, we don't want to take these vaccines.
What would happen to them?
Well, I can tell you our good friend and who's not on the show today, Chris Weiner, who has his show on Saturdays, Brutal Honesty, 6 p.m.
Eastern Time, Studio B. He just had a baby, a beautiful little girl named Valentina, and he and his wife stayed awake constantly in the hospital a year ago to prevent any of these ghouls from injecting their beautiful little baby.
So you essentially choose to become an outcast of society in America.
How much outcast?
Scorpio, Scorpio, is that right?
Scorpio?
This is Giuseppe, but... Giuseppe, yeah, Giuseppe.
I mean, how much?
Does that mean you can't send the kid to a school, or you don't get any bonus or relief for having a child financially?
Just give us a bit of detail about what you mean being an outcast.
Well, the only relief you get in the United States, the great corporate slave state, is on your taxes.
And they don't differentiate.
You get a child credit on your taxes.
It's several thousand dollars.
You get no money unless you're low income, at which point you do have to, if you're getting a, if you're on the tits of the state, you do have to be vaccinated.
If you want your child to go to indoctrination centers, i.e.
public schools, you do have to have them vaccinated.
And it's insane the level of ignorance and selfishness In the normie parents who are like, oh I gotta get my kids into school, it's too much effort, it's too much work for me to homeschool them, and I still have to do my job, and I still have to have my time to play video games and take selfies.
Yeah, I'd just like to confirm that, because in this country, I believe it is not compulsory, I believe you can still send your kid to school, If it's not vaccinated.
I may be wrong.
I'd heard it was just one or two states, like California, where you could not get schooling without the vaccination.
But you're saying it's basically throughout the USA that you can't send your kids to school without the vaccines.
Is that right?
They're changing their laws now.
Wow, that's terrible.
So if you want a healthy kid, sorry?
Pretty contrarian to this whole deal and perhaps in Texas.
But what's interesting is even when these governors make these bold pronouncements,
they're still at the local level, the school board level, they do implement these draconian measures.
Well, you know, the whole idea of the vaccine passport is supposed to be the absolute control of the government
over each individual life, where they won't be allowed to do anything
over which the government can exert control unless they conform to the vaccine schedule.
So I think there's really little doubt that that's the solution they want.
They create an imaginary pandemic, for which we find there's really no substantial
empirical evidence at all, they have reclassified. Last year, Nick, there were 38
million cases of the flu. This year, there are less than 2,000. So do we think the flu just
mysteriously disappeared?
No, they're counting those 38 million this year as cases of COVID in order to stoke the fear porn associated with this medical fascism.
That happened in this country as well, exactly the same, flu disappeared.
And I think in most countries, Australia, a whole lot of countries, flu mysteriously disappeared.
So this shows you, not just that flu is being reclassified as COVID, it also shows you some amazing, hardly hard to believe, a global control, that they can do that all around the world, isn't it?
I mean, it used to be just conspiracy theorists who said, oh, it's some global control, you know?
But it shows you, you can see if all around the world flu is being reclassified as COVID, you know?
Scorpio?
Yeah, well, guys, it's a miracle the flu has been cured this year.
It's wonderful.
Right, yeah, yeah.
I mean, flu isn't something you want to cure, really.
It's your system.
Purifying itself, cleansing itself, maybe you need to have your temperature raised.
There are percentages of people that are starting to figure out that this is just an enormous hoax and a means to an end to get a new system of medical tyranny indoctrinated into people's minds.
Do you feel that there's a shift in people starting to see something that's really wrong?
First of all, don't take the doctor's pills, and don't take pills developed with animal experiments.
If you have some naturopathic or herbal doctor, if you're lucky to find one, they're hard to find, and they may be persecuted, but you're lucky if you can find one.
And it's up to us to affirm that it's not the business of the state to keep us healthy, right?
We've never asked the opinion of the state or the advice or guidance about how to stay healthy.
That's our business.
It is not the state's business.
So, I mean, they may have opinions about some dreadful disease coming along, but it's, as Jim says, it's fear porn.
They need your fear.
That's the thing.
We always need to bear in mind.
The politicians in place at the moment have no idea at all how to improve your life, or how to make you happy, or your welfare.
It probably doesn't even interest them.
They know that they can't say anything about that, but they can grab your attention with fear.
So they misuse government and misuse the media by promoting this fear.
It's up to us to live together and find people of the like mind and the same wavelength, join together with people of the same wavelength, say for having children or whatever, forming a group, maybe homeschooling.
I would say homeschooling, if you can do it, is a very good alternative instead of what the kid may be exposed to at school.
May I add that the combination of having a vaccine for a phantom virus or among the effects of the vaccine or sterility is going to dramatically reduce the reproduction rate in the population targeted with a vaccine while at the same time bringing in masses of migrants who are reproducing at a far faster rate Combined with the reduction in the rate of the original population, you're going to get demographic changes in a relatively short period of time.
And it's all by an artificial means of selection, by deliberately allowing this new group to come into the country and reproduce massively, and by even giving them lots of free stuff.
I mean, it's just insane that the American taxpayers Are expected to finance illegal immigrants staying at hotels, even with room service, I would bet, at taxpayer expense.
Nick, it's that absurd here on the U.S.
border with Mexico.
Yeah, I gather Tucker Carlson has recently been sounding off about that, and he's got strongly attacked, but he was talking about this replacement program, which, you know, obviously is happening very, very quickly.
And it's extraordinary how quickly the world is changing, isn't it?
I'm delighted you cited Tucker because that's the one program I believe is worth watching on all of television.
And Tucker has been just doing a brilliant job on critical race theory, on replacement theory, even on the vaccine and problems associated.
He's getting into gear, though I have found him historically to be a tad naive or skitterish about You know, JFK, 9-11, Sandy Hook, those are issues he will not address.
I sometimes wonder if if Tucker still thinks Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.
You know, it's that bad, Dick.
Well, I think that's a bit unfair, Jim.
I mean, he's got a major post on Fox News Channel and you can't have a major post like that while talking about the kind of thing that we talk about.
It's a bit like with Alex Jones when He came out about Sandy Hook saying nobody was shot there or nobody died there.
And you can't maintain a major, a major broadcasting platform if you say that kind of stuff.
It's just there's a limit of what you can do, isn't there?
Yes, yes, I agree with that.
It's a prudential matter.
Giuseppe, Giuseppe, your thoughts?
I think that for a long time, Tucker's Real first name was Cucker because he was always cucking to the international Jew and I'm glad to see him take on the ADL and the Anti-Defamation League.
And Nick, are you aware of the American Historical Origins of the Anti-Defamation League, when a vile Jew named Leo Frank raped and beat and murdered a young 14 year old white girl and then convinced a black guy, one of his employees, he paid him off and convinced him to claim he did the crime, the murder, and everyone knew it was the Jew Frank.
And then finally the corrupt judiciary was going to let Leo Frank off, and then a mob broke into jail, took Frank out, and hung him, which I now call the Leo Frank Protocol, which I believe should be brought back in wide scale in this world to fix it.
We need the Leo Frank Protocol applied to Bill Gates.
All right, yeah.
Heinrich Kissinger and all these traitors to humanity.
What are your thoughts on that?
Well, be careful.
You'll get Jim's platform wiped off, you know.
Be careful what you say, yeah?
I've got a friend, my friend Alison, a singer, Alison Shabloz, who Jim might have interviewed, but she does satirical songs about, you know, show business and stuff.
Satirical songs about the tribe.
And they keep trying to jail her.
They're furious at her doing these satire songs.
And she did a really good discussion program in America a few years ago, and they thought that was going too far.
Anyway, they've announced there's a funny law in this country that if you send material that is, quote, grossly offensive, that can be a crime.
It's a rather mad law, but it applies to people sending.
And who's to evaluate what is or isn't I mean, anyone can be offended by anything, Nick.
So yeah, anyone.
Yeah.
Subjective and political.
In this case, it was just a crackpot judge without any jury.
He announced that what Alison has done was grossly offensive.
Can you believe it?
He announced that.
Oh, a political podcast discussion program in America.
Yeah, that was grossly offensive.
So we're putting you inside.
So she's in jail now.
And it's just amazing to realize that, the state we're in now, that crime no longer is defined objectively as something you've done.
Crime is an allegation that you might have offended someone, without even needing evidence for it.
And generally, as you mentioned, I don't want to go into this too much, but it is just the tribe that can get away with that kind of stuff.
You and I couldn't get away with it, you know?
As Voltaire observed, to know by whom you are ruled, just ask who you are not allowed to criticize.
Scorpio, your thoughts?
Oh yeah, it's absolutely the tribe that decides what is offensive and what is allowable to speak about.
They really intend on controlling the very parameters of every conversation.
This idea that something is grossly offensive, you know, that's essentially the end of free speech.
It is, yeah.
It is the end of free speech, yeah.
And it's the end of satire.
It's the end of humor and satire, especially.
It kills satirists and comedians, you know.
Go ahead, Scorpio, and then Nick will reply.
Go ahead.
Well, no, really, they just want to keep people afraid, also, not only of speaking their mind, but of even interacting with one another.
That's why they have all these goofy lockdowns and social distancing, so that we're all afraid of our own shadow and afraid to interact with one another.
It's really quite staggering.
I'll let Nick go ahead and respond, but I wanted to ask him a question after that.
Yeah, sure, Nick.
Well, yeah, that all seems to be happening.
And it's very odd the way everyone goes along with it.
That's what I find so weird.
People wearing masks.
I mean, what else do they think they're protecting themselves from?
Viruses don't travel through the air.
And touching people, embracing people, what do they imagine might happen?
And it's suddenly me given all this imaginary fear, and I find it very baffling that everyone seems to accept it.
Yeah.
Scorpo, you're sure being drilled into their head with the use of propaganda 24-7.
I've never seen the fear factor amped up so high.
They got the fear factor turned up to 11 now.
With basically 24 hours a day that, hey, you're going to get COVID and die, and the only way out is to get the vaccine.
It's really quite incredible.
I guess my question, Nick, is... Yeah, I think we need a new hug thy neighbor philosophy.
Give your neighbor a hug.
Give them a back massage.
Shake hands and don't accept all this nonsense.
I mean, you've got to decide how much you can do if you don't actually want to be put in jail, you know.
But generally, you cannot comply quite a lot without being arrested, I would say.
At least in this country, yeah.
Yeah, and so Nick, your newest book is on the Covid hoax.
Maybe you could tell us a little bit about that, and also maybe tell us if you have anything else that's currently in the works.
Oh, right.
Well, I've always got that.
I would say the thing that... I described this group I'm in, discussion group, right?
And we have a joint Google account.
Everyone puts in stuff that's happening.
And that's really, I get sent stuff by Jim, you know, and that's how I put it together.
I just, I mean, I'm just somebody who likes telling a story.
So I put it all together from From the different things I was sent, and so on.
And also, as a science historian, I mentioned the idea of verification and testing, and it was perfectly obvious that it's not happening here.
People go, would you learn about science show this and science show that?
And there wasn't any real science showing.
The kind of real science that I found was that The incidence of alleged COVID deaths, whatever you mean by that, the COVID deaths per, say, million of the population, if you compare all different countries in the world, that turned out to be proportional to the intensity and severity of the lockdown.
You measure how stringent the lockdown was in different countries.
Severe lockdown, little lockdown, not much.
And that turns out to be proportional to what are called COVID deaths per million.
And it's sort of supposed to be the other way around, isn't it?
Lockdown is kind of... In other words, it's a lockdown that's constantly efficacious and promoting death, not the virus.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's say alleged deaths.
The Covid deaths is a rather phantomic concept.
It's hard to say what it means, but whatever it does mean, it is very high in countries like America, Britain, France, Italy, Belgium that have intense severe lockdowns and it's far lower in countries like Belgium, Belarus, Nicaragua and so on that have weak or little lockdowns and I think that was the thing that led me to write this book.
I felt it was very mysterious that there was a global experiment going going on People locking down and not scared to come out of their house and scared to be in the sunshine and not scared of touching their neighbours.
And the more this happened, I mean it's pretty obvious, totally obvious to ordinary people, totally obvious that it's fresh air and sunshine and outdoor exercise that keeps us healthy, right?
And the more you're indoors and don't go out, the more likely you are to be unhealthy.
But that's pretty obvious.
But that's what the statistics were showing.
So, I think that was the thing that made me decide, well, maybe I'll try and tell this story as what we mean by a hoax.
Because it's not just people lying.
It's not just people deciding to lie for the sake of money.
It's a more complicated thing.
It's a whole collective.
The delusion The delusion process is a big collective thing of people reinforcing each other's inappropriate ideas.
For a long time, people have been fantasizing about a virus pandemic.
All sorts of horror movies have fantasized as if there could be a huge virus pandemic that wipes out the human race or whatever.
Well, I don't think viruses have that power.
I don't think that viruses do travel around the world and can do that.
You know, Prince Philip, now deceased, observed in like 1988 that if he were reincarnated he'd want to come back as a deadly virus so he could do something to cope with the depopulation of Earth.
That was Prince Philip making that assertion.
How bizarre is that?
Well, okay, but I'm not sure viruses have that power, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, but the point is, in terms of his beliefs, he believed that he wanted to do that, even have himself come back if he were to be reincarnated.
I mean, talk about bizarre in the extreme.
And then he ends up, he ends up, he takes the Pfizer vaccine, right, the Pfizer, and then six weeks later he's in hospital.
This is a 99 year old guy, what the hell does a 99 year old guy want to take a vaccine for?
Anyway, he did, six weeks later in his hospital, and then he pops off.
So people are asking, can we have a post-mortem, see if he died from the vaccine, you know?
Well, that'd be something.
But they're not going to, I'm sure, right, Nick?
No, no, I'm not sure.
But I would say that the big pandemics we've had in the past are from bugs, smallpox or whatever.
Bugs can reproduce and maybe last outside the body.
You know, that they are things that are alive and can reproduce.
You made a really important observation, Nick, that the virus is not transmissible through air.
I mean, all the separation, all the face masks, it's all justified on the basis of a false premise to wit that it is transmissible.
And of course, we know the masks are far too small to filter out a virus that's about 0.1 micron, when it'll only filter out 0.3 or larger.
So, I mean, the whole face mask thing is a manifest, even a medical absurdity.
Yeah, I mean, let's bear in mind that a virus lasts two or three days.
That's how long they last, okay?
And they're found inside living organisms, or maybe inside a petri dish.
If you put some stuff in a petri dish and you disturb it, or you add some poison to stress it, then viruses appear.
That's where you see viruses in living things, and the imagination that they can drift through the air and come home from China and whatever, that is a kind of fantasy that I think we need to get away from, you know?
Giuseppe!
Well, I have to disagree with both of you.
In my own training, midlife career change as a doctor of oriental medicine 6,000 years ago, It was well known that there are contagions that are airborne, including this contagion, which is a derivative of the common cold.
The common cold is spread through the air, much the way chicken pox is when kids share.
I mean, that's not the issue.
The issue is that I agree with what you're saying as far as Making the virus the nanoterrorist, that's the lie, but you can absolutely catch a cold.
Look at anyone in a school room or an office, one person has a cold and within a few days to a week, people whose immune system is not robust, half the classroom or half the office has that cold.
So it is absolutely an airborne contagion.
But that's not the point.
The point is, if you have a healthy immune system, you may be exposed to it.
It'll never manifest within your immune system.
But this harkens back to the whole lie of germ theory, which is Pasteur versus Beauchamp.
And in the case where Pasteur claimed what the corporate Big Pharma and mainstream medical academia claim is germ theory and even on his deathbed Pasteur admitted he was wrong and Beauchamp is right and Beauchamp stated that there's something called host theory which is that it's not actually the virus that gives you the disease rather it's the patient's inclination because of a weak immune system to
have something called a micro enzyme that begins to affect the body and again because
of a weak immune function. So if you or rather if we were to embrace Bosham's theory and
we all much as it is Dr. Judy Mike of its theory and how she saved Magic Johnson when
she wrote her PhD and she stated that look you can't use deadly cancer causing I'm sorry
cancer battling chemicals like AZT to fight age you need to bolster the patient's immune
function with a cocktail of immune support nutrients and antivirals and Magic Johnson
took her advice and he's alive today and that same advice would keep everyone healthy and
it's again final statement it's ridiculous this is a this is a derivation of gain of
function lab created common cold with some bells and whistles such as people mysteriously
losing their sense of taste and smell but the point is is anyone 65 and younger you
99.997% of surviving it the real attack the real virus is the fear virus in the mind don't
you think? Right.
Yeah, well thank you for that.
That's very interesting.
As regards what is your image of people in a classroom catching a cold, I mean if you cough within your sputum or whatever you're likely to cough out, As you say, there can be some co-virus in that, which other people can... In that sense, it's transmissible, but surely that's fairly close proximity, isn't it?
If you get what someone else has coughed out, or it's from being next to them.
It's not traveling through the wind, is it?
It circulates right there and that's uh and you can get it remember the biggest organ in the human body is the skin you can touch something and absorb it that way the point is is the more important point is the the monstrous incorrect way to treat all this that there is no virus in the sense of it's causing the disease It's again a reaction within a flawed immune system and so you boost the immune system and that's where all these big pharma hacks are wrong and all these academians are wrong.
But there are definitely contagions, I guess, is the key point.
And it's how your body deals with contagion.
But Giuseppe, you would agree that there's no empirical evidence that this coronavirus is actually causing an increase in death in any age group, correct?
I mean, we got the insurance industry.
We got this Johns Hopkins study.
We have all these converging.
Even my first study, Holy Domaguard, suggested I take a look at the European mortality tables when it was supposed to be sweeping across Europe, and there were no changes in mortality in any of the European nations.
I mean, it was studied from the beginning.
This has been true.
So as Nick's emphasizing, this is mind fear, this is mind porn, this is all manipulating our beliefs, which bear scant resemblance to reality, and therefore we're doing ourselves great harm because we don't realize that our beliefs about this virus are manufactured and false.
Right, I'd like to interject that the CDC's own number of 2020 deaths, all deaths, was about 500,000 less than 2018 when there was a nasty SARS outbreak.
Wow.
So that's all a lie, this is all a mind rave, and tragically turning all these weak-minded trusters of the nanny state to take this injection, and they're literally being lab rats in a crimes against humanity experiment.
Scorpio, you want to squeeze in another question before we hit the break?
Well, I'll ask the question after the top of the hour, but I am a little dubious about some of these things.
Frankly, you know, AIDS, I'm not even convinced that AIDS existed beyond a lot of bad lifestyle choices made by homosexuals.
You know, what's interesting too is one of the similarities between so-called AIDS and so-called COVID is that you have this emergence of the The person that has no asymptomatic carriers, yet they can spread the disease even though they have no symptoms.
And I'm not aware of anyone that died of AIDS that wasn't taking AZT.
So a lot of mysteries around so-called AIDS.
Generally speaking, AIDS was a collection of more than 20 different diseases, wasn't it?
Yeah, go ahead, Dick.
Generally speaking, AIDS.
Well, just saying that AIDS was, you're alleged to acquire a immunodeficiency amongst, there's about 20 different illnesses.
And if you got any of those, you could be said to have AIDS.
And that sense is very similar to coronavirus, where You could die of all sorts of things.
You could die of just about anything, as long as you had a test, a positive test, on your death certificate within, sort of, 30 days.
Nick, hold that thought.
We're hitting a break.
We'll be back with Nick Colerstone from the UK right after.
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Well, this is Jim Fetzer, your host on the event where we have Giuseppe Vaffangulo and David
with Scorpio here.
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Nick is still on his break, but Giuseppe, would you like to make some observations about his contributions?
This is One of the figures I most admire in the world today.
Oh, absolutely.
I think that Dr. Nick Kallistrom is a fantastic champion of intellectual freedom and personal freedoms.
And he is not backing down whatsoever, which is, y'all need to be more like Nicholas Kallistrom.
In fact, Scorpio has the right of our Ghana cloning program.
Nick, we've been extolling your virtues as you fetched a cup of teas.
We're so delighted to have you here today, I can't begin to tell you.
Scorpio, did you want to pick up or was Nick going to complete?
You said you had a question after the break, Scorpio.
Now is the time.
I'll just chip in.
Nick's ready.
Got it.
I feel that you don't need Big Pharma to stay healthy.
That's the important thing.
We've all got different views about it, and we shouldn't seek to impose any uniformity of belief of how you stay healthy.
Personally, I've always taken the view, don't take the doctor's pills.
If you want to stay in bed for a bit, well, stay in bed for a bit and wait till you get better.
And that's always the straightforward approach I've had to being healthy.
And if you get in hospital, it's quite a dangerous place to be.
And so it's yeah, yeah, I would feel we don't need vaccines.
Your system doesn't need vaccines.
And And try to detach, if you can, from the system that's telling you that you need all these things.
Not only do you not need them, but you're better off without them.
Scorpio's back.
Yeah, go ahead, Scorpio.
Yeah, I think this concept of medical charity versus medical freedom is really a crucial one right now because, you know, if they're always telling us with the issue of abortion, my body, my choice, well, should we have the right to take whatever medical treatment we want or don't want?
And that includes herbs or anything else.
There's so many different options available for healing that we're all being corralled into this, you know, unipolar Yeah, and it's based on a phony concept of science.
In Europe, the legislation is that medicines have to be tested on animals.
And it's based on a phony concept of science.
At least I'll talk about what's happening in Europe, the legislation.
Sorry.
Okay, go ahead, go ahead, Dick.
Yeah.
In Europe, the legislation is that medicines have to be tested on animals.
You need to have a whole lot of animals and kill off a load of them.
So it's a very expensive and unpleasant animal experiment that terrorize a lot of animals.
And the naturopathic or sending medicines can't afford this.
They can't afford it or they don't believe it.
And so that is what is called science, right?
They call that a scientific validation of the medicine.
And that effectively tends to rule out anyone who's Who's not going along with the mainstream.
In this case, Nick, of course, they claim they skipped the animal studies.
My belief is they conducted them, but the animals died and the results were so devastating they couldn't allow them to become public.
So now the animals who are the subject of the experiment are we ourselves.
Right, yeah, yeah.
So weird, isn't it?
You thought just fertility experiments would have been done.
Do the animals remain fertile after these vaccines?
That's good, that's good, that's good.
It's hard to believe that we don't have any experimental data on whether these jabs affect fertility, which is perilously low.
It's going down and down.
Fertility in Europe, I guess in America too.
As I was observing, the migrant reproduction rate is much higher than the white, which is not even a replacement.
And now with the introduction of the vaccine, it's going to be below replacement so that demographics are going to rapidly change both on the continent and here in the United States.
Scorpio, further thoughts?
Well, you know, isn't it interesting too, you know, this idea of low fertility and stuff,
how we're constantly being told, well, you know, there's not enough people to fulfill the, you know,
the future pensions and stuff.
So we need to bring in more immigrants.
And it's like this vicious cycle they're using to essentially replace the populations all over Europe
and Canada as well.
But if you point the obvious fact out that there's an actual plan to switch out the population somehow, you know, you're a bad person and a racist or whatever term they want to use, yet the evidence of such a plan is absolutely overwhelming.
And the other thing I would point out is that they're really pushing this notion of vaccine inequity, whereas the poor countries aren't getting enough vaccines.
And as Nick pointed out earlier in the show, America, Israel, and Europe have the highest vaccination rates, but there's countries all over the world where hardly anyone has been vaccinated.
And I just wonder if this isn't going to be used as the part of the plan to really wipe out the white population through disease and infertility.
Right, so yeah, yeah.
I think the white race will survive in Russia.
That's Slavic, not quite the same, but they're white, you know.
I think they will survive there.
But I think Europe is going to turn brown this century.
Maybe America too, yeah.
The cultural revolution is going to be even more stunning than the genetic, because it's going to be vast in scope, transforming virtually every aspect of life.
Giuseppe, your thoughts?
I'd like to get Nick's thoughts on what I've identified as a severe delineation between real science that follows the scientific method and allows the data to lead the experimenter in the direction that the data leads versus Yeah.
corporate big pharma science, which starts with an end goal that I want this vaccination or I want this magic pill
to make it to market.
And it's a process of fabricated data, cherry picked test results,
suppress when it doesn't serve the interests of the end goal.
Well, that's an important book by Judy Mikovits.
that Jim just interviewed last week.
Yeah, absolutely.
All towards the end goal, which is to get that vaccine to market or that magic pill to market.
Your thoughts on the difference between real science and corporate big pharma science?
Yeah, well real science happens where the results are not determined by who is funding the scientist, okay?
It's a concept of independence that the scientist is able to work in a lab and get results and we can believe those results if they're not controlled by whoever funds them.
So this is a challenge for any uh nation or state to allow this to happen to allow investigation and especially on public safety that's where it's most important what are the safety thresholds how can the public be kept safe that kind of science investigation has to happen to be funded by the state such that uh that they they are not funded by big pharma or big business and that is the incredibly difficult process i wonder if
Traditional science has somewhat died out in our time.
Most of what is called science now is just PR and hype.
Yeah, they're talking more about applied science and technology, of course, medical science and technology, and it bears scant resemblance, because that profit motive driving big pharma is so massive, and they're corrupting so many of the organizations that actually were Originally, perhaps, thought to be objective safeguards for public health, but have become marketing outlets, you know, public relations and promotion.
And you sign non-disclosure, the scientists in the lab signs non-disclosure agreements, contracts, so they can't just easily report whatever they've done.
And So I think that the public are getting bamboozled by what is allegedly science, and I think the public are losing trust in them.
It's been misused a lot in this coronavirus story, and the kind of rudimentary data we'd like, for example, people who test positive on this Covid test, PCR test, Are they more likely to get ill?
You've got about something like seven percent of the population, very very roughly, test positive on this PCR test.
Nick, we had a revelation from a nurse who showed there were two swabs, two types of swabs that were pre-designated negative and positive.
You know, to do the test for coronavirus, you already knew what was going to be the outcome because the swab was predetermined to give you a negative or a positive.
I mean, how bad is that?
And we have a photograph, we have an image of the two swabs, one saying negative, one saying positive.
It's unbelievable.
Or should I say, it's very believable, given the dimensions of the scan.
Yes, well, that is hard to believe, isn't it?
And the whole thing depends on how many replications you do.
This is the nasal swab.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Cary Mullis specifically said that it can't be used in this way for detecting whether you're ill or not.
I mean, he was an example of a real scientist.
Somebody who really understood matters and he was independent.
He would say he was keen on what was and what could be found out and what was true and perhaps that's why he had to suddenly die off just before that big meeting of 2019, Operation Crimson Contagion.
That was a big planning for the whole pandemic and his death was reported just the day before that.
We have the public not really able to believe in science in the same way.
We just get bamboozled by it on the news and we're told, oh, there's a new strain.
Well, how do I know there's a new strain?
We never get what sounds like decent, honest science, do we?
Well, they've never even isolated the alleged COVID SARS 2 vaccine, you know, virus.
So if they haven't isolated the virus, they can't possibly have a vaccine as an antidote to the virus, which means the guards were being scammed from the beginning to the end.
Well, the vaccines may treat some of the symptoms, but as we've been discussing, actually introduce very harmful elements with mRNA into your body, change your DNA, produce excess proteins that include prions, induce infertility, sterility.
I mean, it seems to me all of the consequences of these vaccines are bad, Scorpio, Giuseppe, would you have a few more questions for Nick before we open the line to callers?
I'm sure there will be many.
Scorpio?
Yeah, a few comments.
You know, it's funny how they're already talking about mutant strains, but the vaccines still work, and now there's the super scary double vaccine.
Yeah, well, it still works.
But they're confident that the vaccines work.
It's amazing how as soon as a new so-called strain comes out, right away, they know that the vaccine works.
And of course, that's not science.
It's absolutely absurd.
And on the bigger picture, isn't it interesting how, when you really think about it, this COVID agenda and the so-called climate change agenda really dovetail into one single agenda, don't they?
Because, you know, after all, global problems need global solutions.
And they're going to use both of these emergencies to get their grand plan shoved down the public's
throat one way or another. And it's all based on phony science.
Yeah, all based on phony science for sure.
Certainly.
Well, just that the lockdowns all around the world have greatly reduced the impacts on
Mother Nature as it were.
The seas and the rivers and the skies are sort of clearer now, and it may be that that's been very beneficial ecologically.
That's one way of looking at it.
Maybe some critical overload on the ecosystems of Mother Earth have been averted.
I mean, there's a possible angle there.
Yeah.
I mean, I think climate change is the most meaningless slogan I've ever heard.
Is the climate warming or cooling?
it warming or cooling. It's debatable.
Biden has a now 1.9 trillion proposal allegedly for infrastructure, but actually to implement
the Green New Deal, transform the way Americans live, promote electric cars and all that,
get rid of what they call fossil fuels, for which we know there's actually an endless supply
because it's a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Giuseppe, Giuseppe, your thoughts?
I'd like to ask Nick what he thinks of the following statement that the vaccine was in existence long ago and the gain-of-function coronavirus was created to drive the fearful herd of Goyan cattle to accept the vaccine and part B is that This is just a strategy of fear and a psychological operation to deliver the real prize, which is the great reset to change the economies of sovereign nation into a true global economy.
Your thoughts on A and B?
Well, those are very general questions.
I don't know why you'd believe that the vaccines were pre-existent.
Well, he means they already had patents on them, Nick, because this was being planned so far in advance.
I think Fauci even holds some patents on some of these that are being used now that were approved, submitted and approved even years before the coronavirus outbreak.
I heard that patents on the coronavirus started to be taken out in America over the last 10 years or so.
Go ahead, Giuseppe.
Nick was coming.
Go ahead, repeat that.
Well, I was just going to say that these vaccines against the common cold have been around for two decades.
They have tried, and they've always never gotten beyond the animal studies, so this is nothing new.
It's an elaborate scam to have this race to create this vaccine.
It's been around for two decades.
You know, I wish that I wish that Donald were more medically and scientifically sophisticated, because I do believe he was played.
And I've been very troubled, you know, in retrospect, his locking down the economy, which was, of course, not in his self-interest.
And therefore, I believe was actually an act of altruism.
But where he ought to have known better, I think he was really, truly played.
And it's unfortunate because the consequences have been so devastating.
Giuseppe Scorpio, both your thoughts.
Well, I would just add that, you know, regarding the climate change hoax, you know, and this $2.9 trillion New Green Deal so-called infrastructure package, you know, GM, the carmaker, has already agreed to quit producing gas-powered cars Completely, by 2035.
And so, the plan is going to be, if you can't afford the $60,000 or $80,000 or $100,000 it costs to buy an electric car, you're not going to be driving.
I thought it was quite stunning that GM's already agreed not to make gas-powered cars by 2035.
It's not been talked about much in the media or anywhere else.
That's bizarre, Scorpio!
I had no idea!
That's outrageous!
Nick, your thoughts?
Well, the new electric cars, they need a lot of rare metals and rare elements to power them, and that's very expensive and environmentally disruptive, as well as where the electricity comes from.
I guess electricity is going to be coming from nuclear power, so it's a somewhat equivocal argument.
It's really a ridiculous plan because, you know, you have to have electricity to make the whole thing work and the electricity isn't boundless.
Maybe James McCann can address the access to electricity somehow, as it were, from our environment.
But it looks as though this is another horrendous scam and it's going to have enormous economic and other consequences.
Scorpio, I infer that's part of what you're driving at.
Oh, absolutely.
It's part of this time to completely change the very nature of society and your ability to even move around freely.
And of course, this dovetails into the vaccine passport thing as well.
And, you know, it's absurd, too.
Nick made a great point.
It's absurd that these electric cars are somehow magical.
You know, you're going to have to either plug your car into a coal-powered power plant or a nuclear power plant And of course nuclear power is a great deal more dangerous than any other type of power in existence.
And the other thing that's never talked about about electric cars is that the disposing of the batteries is next to impossible and it's an absolute environmental nightmare to deal with the lithium and the other byproducts that are left over from these batteries that only last about five years.
Those are great points, Scorpion.
Of course, that's a reason why Biden is delaying our withdrawal from Afghanistan.
We've been there to loot the country of its mineral resources as well as grow the poppies.
Many an army officer has come back and discussed that his role there was to protect the poppy fields so the CIA could engage in its international drug operation, which is unbelievably lucrative, but where Afghanistan also has threats That's the second largest lithium deposit in the world, second only to Bolivia, Nick.
Wow, that's amazing.
I never heard that, Jim.
That's amazing.
And that is the world's longest lasting war, so-called war.
And it's never explained what America is doing there.
We never hear these two points you made.
They're still taking opium out of the It's outrageous, Nick.
Outrageous.
The biggest deposit of lithium and the most accessible deposit in the world is in Bolivia.
So keep your eyes on Bolivia for various political problems to occur down there.
100% correct.
Yes, absolutely.
Giuseppe, would you like to raise some more questions before we open the lines?
Sure, I would just like to add that that's the whole reason behind the U.S.' 's push into with AFRICOM, is there's a lot of those valued minerals for producing microchips and computer parts and screens.
And electric cars!
As well, so instead of negotiating fairly, they want to use the U.S.
military might On behalf of the corporate elites.
And finally, I would also point out that the Green New Steel is a vital component, the deception of the Green New Steel, to drive the human herd towards Agenda 2030 and allowing these elites to cluster the population in these megacities and free up the nature and ownership for this 1% who had will then have massive natural holdings that are inaccessible
to the average citizen.
That's quite a gloomy prospect, yeah.
Let me just announce for our audience that we're again skipping our break at the bottom of the
hour when we have a guest of the caliber of our guest today.
And we're opening the phone lines.
If you'd like to call in, Mitchell will field your call.
The number is 540-352-4452.
540-352-4452.
Again, 540-352-4452.
And of course, there are all four of us here, Giuseppe, Scorpio, Nick, and me.
So you can raise questions about any of the issues we've been addressing or even others, if you like.
Again, the number 5-4-0-3-5-2-4-4-5-2.
540-352-4452.
Giuseppe, further thoughts?
I wonder what Nick views is coming for the UK in the next year,
because I've been shocked at the totalitarian, draconian measures to lock down England.
And I never thought that would ever be tolerated by the populace.
And I know there are protests.
Why is the government not in service to its citizens in this capacity?
Thank you.
Yeah, I mean certainly nobody, it's hard to believe what's happened so quickly, so suddenly, and we don't have any political party objection to it really.
Everyone's just in consensus, everyone believes this dogma, and the stories of coming out of lockdown now, the main thing British people concern about is pubs reopening.
Can we get back into pubs again?
And you know, pubs and gyms, cafes, will they reopen?
And they've said next month they'll open.
They've started opening now.
And I would think it'd be very difficult for them to go back again and say it's another lockdown.
I mean, who knows?
But I would tend to think once it's opened up again that the Tories can't go back on their word and shut it all down again.
I'd be very surprised if they can do that.
We do have a first caller on the line from the 818 area code.
Caller, please give us your first name and state and join the conversation.
Callie.
Hey Jim, this is Kim Brumberg.
I'm in California, California.
So looking at all of this from an external point of view and just putting all the pieces together, it definitely is looking like they are Trying to turn everybody into robots.
It's transhumanism.
I mean, with all this technology, even with the PCR, bogus tests, those things go hand in hand with the vaccines because they're trying to alter human DNA.
Yeah.
Looking at research in the past from like Atlanta, you know, back in those days, that's what killed off the population was technology.
These evil scientists, they're out of control.
Yeah, they are, yeah.
From the 80s, V, that said for visitors, all these people were in human suits, but then they took off their suits and they were like reptilians underneath.
So, all of this whole agenda, to me, is not human.
I mean, these are so evil beyond comprehension.
Yeah, might be.
Well, we need a new political movement with women more involved.
Go ahead, finish your thought.
Go ahead, finish your thought.
Nick was just eager to respond.
Go ahead.
I'm trying to get the ball out.
There's just so much stuff in my mind.
It's just overwhelming.
Just the fact that all these people are going along with getting the vaccine is ludicrous.
I mean, I am among A sea of zombies.
These people have been altered to even not even question what's inside these ingredients.
First of all, how are they running to get the freaking vaccine?
And they don't even know what the hell is in there.
It's drugs.
It's a psychological war combined with transhumanism.
And my thing is, Where I'm at in my life is, what are the solutions?
I mean, what the hell can we do about all this?
Yeah.
Well, we need a political movement in which women are more involved, precisely to try to counteract what you put your finger on, that science is out of control.
We want science to be Focused on human benefit and human welfare, okay?
And not just mad scientists creating zombies or whatever it is they're doing.
We don't quite know what they are doing.
But I think we need some sort of call for a humane science.
And Jim interviewed this lady, Judy Mickiewicz, whose book is about reclaiming the promise of science and trying to Get back hope and trust into whatever it is that scientists are up to.
So I think we need some kind of ethics in science in a different way.
Is it actually trying to benefit us?
You raised other more metaphysical issues that I doubt if we can comment on about people being reptilians or whatever.
People do fantasize about this because otherwise how come the politicians are so evil, you know?
Judy's a personal friend of Giuseppe who arranged the wonderful interview we had with her last week on this very show with Scorpio and Chris and Giuseppe and me where she's simply sensational.
I'll just comment on the robotic human business, you know, It's impossible to turn inanimate things, digital machines, into thinking things, you know, quasi-human beings, but it's not impossible.
It appears to be the route they're taking to turn human beings into something more like robotic things, and it appears this vaccine is intended to move in precisely that direction.
Scorpio or Giuseppe, would you like to add further to the caller's questions?
Well yeah, just make me think of Phillip's work where there came a point where you couldn't tell between a synthetic robot and a true human being and you know the World Economic Forum is even bragging that in the future you will not be able to tell the difference between the synthetic and the organic, between the Between the machine and the living.
So they're trying to take us into some kind of bizarre science fiction dystopia here, no question about it.
I think the caller's on to something important.
Go ahead, go ahead.
That's what's called the singularity, which is expected in 10 or 20 years time, when the computers develop sufficiently that they're kind of equivalent intelligence to humans.
Obviously it'll be different, but that will be a kind of But very frightening and challenging moment.
And it starkly posed the question, what does it mean to be human?
I, you know, I address this issue in a lot of my work, and I don't believe you can turn a digital machine into a thinking thing, but that we can address that further.
I do believe you can turn human beings into something more like a robot, however.
Giuseppe, your thoughts?
I think Scorpio wanted to add something.
Go ahead, Scorpio.
Yeah.
Very briefly, I just want to add that, you know, you bring up singularity and transhumanism.
Ray Kurzweil and all his transhumanist buddies, they're all Jewish guys, and this whole thinking is sort of a Jewish concoction at the very top of this.
In fact, I just wanted to point out.
We have another caller on the line, Sal from Colorado.
Join the conversation, Sal.
Jim, I wanted to ask.
Oh, go ahead.
You guys are all Yeah, you guys are all so intelligent.
I mean, I'm big fans of all of you.
I listen as often as I can.
I just want to know what you think are some solutions.
I mean, we all know this stuff.
We know about the masks, how they're poisoned, how they're treated, the PCR test, the vaccine.
We all know where this is going.
So, What in God's name do we do?
I mean, Jim, your mind is so intelligent.
All of you, Scorpio, Giuseppe, I just want to know from each of you what you think we can do, like solutions.
I think there has to be massive public outrage.
You have to put pressure on your political leaders.
You have to share with them all the evidence that masks are damaging,
that most of the deaths from the Spanish flu weren't from the flu, but from bacterial pneumonia,
that bacterial pneumonia is promoted by the wearing of face masks,
that we've been barraged with pseudoscience, claptrap, that it's a lot of political bullshit.
I inform everyone in a position of influencing public health policy to the max you can,
but I tell you, it's an uphill struggle.
Many of us have hoping for a restoration of a Trump administration who had set things right.
And I'm sorry to say, we haven't seen a lot of signs that's going to take place.
It would make a huge difference.
But I think the people are getting very sick of Biden and Harris and a phony administration.
It's an international embarrassment to have these figures as the leaders of the United States.
And we got to overcome the bullshit.
Giuseppe, Giuseppe.
I think that Trump was pushing the vaccine though.
That's my biggest problem.
I mentioned that as a concern of mine.
I mentioned that as a concern of mine earlier.
Giuseppe, go ahead.
Well, Trump initially wanted to have Robert Kennedy Jr.
lead by Lateral commission about investigating vaccines and he was intent on doing a lot of really positive things.
Yeah, it was inaugurated and he was supposed to have a 15 minute talk with Barack Hussein Obama, the trader, and it turned out to be nearly two hours.
And when Trump emerged, he was pale.
He looked nervous.
He kept flashing Illuminati signs.
Essentially, Trump got the talk.
And ever since then, he could no longer implement his ideas of freedom and serving the public.
And as such, there is no political solution.
There is no voice.
These transnational corporations are essentially ruled by a 6,000-year-old death blood cult, the Talmudic Satanists.
And they are not going to go away.
We need a warrior class to remove them, to hunt them and remove them from this planet.
I think once the corporations can be put into check and governments can be staffed by people who are loyal to the citizens of their individual countries, That's the macro solution.
On the micro solution, you have to disengage from this toxic, sick, satanic society and live in a breakaway fashion.
Do not go to a Western doctor.
The only time you need an allopathic doctor is emergency room care.
Acute trauma.
Eat right, get enough exercise, get enough minerals because corporate farming doesn't allow for minerals in the diet anymore.
There's simple things every person can do.
Get off every prescription.
A lot of prescriptions you need to step down, especially like all the psychotropics for the quackery that is psychiatry.
And so you need to break away.
You need to have your own, you know, clean water.
Get a Berkey gravity filter so you're not Ingesting fluoride or any of these toxic chemicals.
You have to literally live your own independent life and find like-minded people.
And that way, you know, once a week one of you can educate your children.
Get your children out of school.
Do not vaccinate anything.
And those are the two strategies.
We need a warrior class that serves the people.
That's the main thing.
Yeah, well thanks for that wonderful words of wisdom.
I'm sure we can all agree with what you just said.
Yeah.
Strong endorsement from Nick.
We do have two other callers on the line.
You're welcome to stay on the hook from California.
Sal from Colorado, then Scott from San Diego.
Sal, you're up next.
Go ahead.
Hi, guys.
Jim, I'm not sure if you know that in the omnibus, the last one that Trump signed, there's $3.6 billion for the Gabby Foundation.
Go ahead.
Gabby.
I'm just saying that if he knows that these things are bad and dangerous, and perhaps his own son even is mildly autistic because of the MMR vaccine, why would he do this to us?
Well, that's a good question.
Scorpio, you want to address it?
Well, I think, bottom line, he was compromised from his dealings in New York City.
The debt he was incurred, he was bailed out by Rothschilds and the internationalist bankers.
And unfortunately, I'm not picking on Trump, but what I see is that we're not gonna get any help
from any of the major institution.
That's not gonna happen.
They're all co-opted and taken over right now by this cult that Giuseppe spoke of earlier.
So we need to quit.
First of all, we need to lose faith in all of these institutions.
They're not going to help us.
We're gonna start building our own systems.
Yeah, right.
Networks of people.
And that begins with us interacting with people of like mind
and trying to build things together.
It's going to be a difficult struggle and we're going to have to take baby steps, but we're going to have to indeed start to build our own civilization outside of this.
I think this is one of the reasons they're so massively censoring, taking down YouTube, Twitter accounts of like-minded people, corresponding, coordinating their efforts, sharing their ideas.
They don't want that to happen.
So I think you're right about the solution, but they're throwing up massive obstacles to moving in that direction.
Nick, yes.
Yeah, well, just this moment of madness that seems to seize the American rulers, governors.
I mean, it's practically trying to initiate World War Three in three different places.
With China, it's baiting and angering China with following its ships around the China Sea.
With Russia, it's sending lethal equipment to Ukraine and sending nuclear bombers to patrol the area, in every way challenging Russia over Ukraine, as if it were, and so is Britain by the way, as if it wants to war with Russia.
And then last but not least, with Iran, They and Israel, America and Israel, are baiting Iran and provoking it more and more.
So, in every way, this Biden administration seems to be looking for a fight.
Not for any discernible reason, but just because it just thinks it's a good posture or can't think what else to do.
Or maybe it's just totally out of control.
Maybe the military just... Nick, I think...
I think if you look at American foreign policy as being run out of Tel Aviv, if you look at this as not Joe Biden's policy but Bibi Netanyahu's, it all makes a lot of sense.
Because Bibi wants to destroy America, he wants to precipitate a war, he wants to annihilate Iran, and he's willing to resort to any technique that might promote those objectives.
I think that makes the most sense.
We have Scott from San Diego standing by.
Scott, go ahead, join the conversation.
Scott.
Mitch, did we lose Scott?
I know we have a caller from the UK who's seeking to reach us by way of Skype.
Can we bring him in, Mitchell?
Any luck?
It looks like we lost Scott from San Diego, and if they just call me at Mitchell.buck, Or my number is my Skype number, so it's all Skype
connected.
Mitchell.box, yes.
You can push him in through Skype if you want.
Do it.
Okay.
Meanwhile, Giuseppe, you want to add a few more words while we're bringing in the caller from the UK?
Yeah. I would just like to observe that what's really going on is
the elites, the globalists, desperately need a war because the vaccine, the human immune system is pretty
robust, and even though they're going to kill...
Quite a few people.
It's not going to be enough.
They need a war because of the massive amount of wealth transfer and gambling that has occurred.
And I believe right now the options and derivatives market is somewhere about 1.7 Quadrillion that's a trillion with three zeros that can never possibly be repaid that's all gone into the coffers of the kosher casino operators and so they need desperately in war to claim that all the war is destroying the global economy and so I think that is a big factor
Uh, what's driving Biden to do this?
We have two more callers standing by.
One from the UK.
If Scorpio has been successful, please join us.
Just give us your first name.
And of course, you're from the United Kingdom.
Join the conversation.
Hello.
Can you hear me clearly?
Yes.
Yes.
Go ahead.
Uh, hi there, James.
Hi there.
Nick, hi there Scott and our usual crew.
It's good to hear you after a while, I have to say.
I'm calling from Glastonbury, the UK.
Alright.
At the moment I've got, I want to sort of comment on what we can do as a network and raising a network in a possible parallel state and sort of just some of the domestic things going on in the UK.
So if it's cool to just proceed guys on that.
No, you go ahead.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
OK, so like in the UK at the moment, what I've seen is there is resistance in the UK to the mask wearing.
So there was a riot in Bristol about a week, week and a half ago, and I turned up to Bristol the day after.
So it seems in certain metropolitan areas, there is a growing resistance mainly to the mask wearing.
My concern is Boris is trying to push out, with Boris's bitches, trying to push out the Covid passport for everything, which is really a digital identity via the back door, probably a biological ID, and he wants to rush that through by July.
I think that this will mean that unless you obviously if you want to go to any public event or to leave the country you will need your papers and to be vaccinated.
Now obviously we shouldn't be taking the recombinant gene therapy vaccine because I believe that
creates decrepitude, it creates miscarriages, anything that affects the white birth rate
I'm sure that vaccine has to do with.
And also I believe the swab tests, people shouldn't get those because I believe they've
probably got nanomaterials on the swab tests and they do push those more and more.
There is a system in the UK from the middle class and upper middle class.
So for example I've been starting to hear reports on GoMTV that there's police now starting
not to be happy with going on, again to do with the mask wearing.
They're starting to encounter health problems through wearing that mask all day long on the overtime and they're starting to rebel against that.
There's also other ministers and other senior professionals like the doctors in Canada at the moment who are rebelling, who are saying that the PCR tests and the use of cases within stats data on the media is deflecting from the way that the death curve is
absolutely flat, it has not gone down this year.
So it is a pure lie. People are starting to see through it.
But as I said before, it is only when there is no money in their wallet, no food in their belly,
only then will they realize it is too late.
So we are starting to see the middle class and upper class wake up only because they are losing
all their money, their businesses are going down. The house price bubble is about to go pop. And
this year we see make or break here as we enter secular inflation with the dollar.
and...
So after this next year, when this fuss dies down, they're really going to start ramping on the pressure with very, very high taxes here in the UK.
They won't be able to leave UK because it's arbitrary the reasons why the police will accept why you're leaving the UK, i.e.
white flight.
And if they're not happy with that, they'll issue you with a £5,000 fine.
So we're being penned in, we're being caged.
They'll be raising the temperature in that cage like cats on a hot tin roof.
And what we need to do, as you quite rightly point out, we lack might.
Now, I am kind of hard known for being hardline on the bankers.
So you're dealing with Satanists who know they're going to hell.
You're looking at the biggest mass murder in history and the greatest redistribution of welfare has ever occurred in humanity's history.
So these people play for keeps and that's why you must understand that murderers are going to murder.
I think you're spot on.
I believe all of us agree with you about all that you've been saying here.
I think you're exactly right.
Nick, did you want to respond to our caller?
Sorry, I didn't quite catch your name, Oksha.
Oh, it's Steve.
Steve from the UK.
I've been around since 9-11, TIU, 2006 and 2007.
It's good, Steve.
OK, Steve.
Well, good to hear from you.
And I admired the talk that Piers Corbyn gave in Glastonbury, I think maybe his first talk, urging people to stay out and resist the lockdown.
I don't know if you remember that.
I was there, it was Piers Corbyn.
Piers Corbyn, yeah, yeah.
And, er, I thought it was very fine.
What he asked me was, when he actually spoke to me, he said, are you Jewish?
Really?
Really?
I had a megaphone there and I was giving my spiel, representing my clan.
I did speak to him but he was kind of trying to gain political capital.
He wasn't a local, so I've got quite a large base in Glastonbury.
So he was kind of trying to bandwagon on top of that for a political end.
So you can imagine the conversations that went on within the Corbyn family.
But he was trying to build a New Age element in there because Glastonbury is not really a New Age town per se, it's a conspiracy town.
So Steve, should I have heard of you in Dusterbury?
Is there something I can link with you?
Yeah, I can pass my details on after the call if you wish, no problem.
Good, good, good.
Glastonbury is one of the towns, let me ask you, that said no to 5G, didn't it?
And I think it managed to stop implementing of 5G aerials.
That and there was one or two other that also said no.
And a lot of people feel that the symptoms of Covid were brought on to do with 5G.
Do you have anything you'd like to say about that?
Yes, they don't want any warriors or workers.
So by making people sick, by killing off the people they owe money to, i.e.
the elderly and the middle-aged boomer class with life savings that are going to be popping this year, I kind of think they want us to be sick to weaken us for invasion.
So all the people, the bondholders, who we owe three trillion pounds and the rest, Those people will be coming here or looking to collect because £3 trillion is some serious, serious wonga, and they will be wanting hard assets for that.
So the soft approach is to try and bring over the immigrants, put a weapon in their hand, then all of a sudden in the Bolshevik conditions, they're running into the countryside, destroying rural culture, the last vestiges of ethnic culture on this island, and they'll be repossessing hard assets for those foreign bondholders. So the answer to your
question, I believe, is they're prepping us for invasion by eliminating and making sick the workers of
value, of surplus value, and the warriors who are here to defend said people and the women
and children. Yeah, Nick was asking whether you think 5G is inducing the symptoms that are being ascribed
to COVID, and I think most of us believe that is indeed the case, and that opposing 5G is a
very appropriate thing to do. Meanwhile, we do...
I've got my own angle there, Jim. I've got my own angle.
I think that the 5G probably affects the nanomaterials and it probably exacerbates The flu condition, but I just think it's a rebranded flu engineered to be more infectious.
Yeah, and they brought out on the bandwagon of that the recombinant gene therapy, which is not a vaccine.
It is a gene therapy to accelerate decrepitude and to produce infertility.
So I kind of have my own position on that, but I'm not really a scientist, Jim, so it's hard for me to go out there with some hard data to present to you as an actual fact.
But it seems to me that the 5G would be more inclined to act on the nanomaterials, either Morgellon fibres or these little spiders that sort of curl up into a ball on these swabs.
These are probably nanotech machines that are programmed with heat to respond with a set action.
And if you've got 5G and microwaves, if you put your phone to your ear, you'll notice that your ear feels hot.
That's my own personal theory on it, but I've got to open mind you.
Well, it was a great, great call.
Scaredy, I'm so apologetic.
We're running out of time.
I would love to have brought you in.
Under the circumstances, I need to go to Giuseppe and Scorpio for their final thoughts.
Giuseppe.
Well, what a wonderful show.
Hopefully we can bring back the great Dr. Nicholas Collistrom soon to discuss the events.
And yeah, that'd be great.
Yeah.
Literally, as Robert Kennedy Jr.
said, this is the apocalypse and we need to fight to the end.
Scorpio, your thoughts?
Yeah, I thought Steve brought up two very important points.
One is making people sick, weakening society to prepare the society for invasion.
I believe that's what's happening all over the West and in America, absolutely.
And of course, it always comes down to hard assets, taking the hard assets After printing up funny money and then using that to take hard assets.
I think that's exactly right.
Well, invasion precisely by whom?
The Chinese?
Well, it could be.
I think what it's going to come down to is just the invasion of a new system so that people can't fight this new system.
And it is going to be based on the Chinese system.
And it could be accompanied by some kind of military action as well.
They are beating the war drones after all.
Go ahead, Steve, real concisely, yes.
I want to point people towards a piece of research which is defeating the Chinese and is being banned by the Chinese, chat.falstack.cash.
A guy called Chris Troutner I've been liaising with and been pushing the free speech scene towards and has offered his help is running the Permissionless Software Foundation and he's been liaising with Chinese dissidents Steve, this has been fascinating.
We're up against the clock.
Nick, I can't thank you enough for coming on.
PFS REST API, so the computers are able to talk to each other
web browser to web browser without any intermediary.
They can't be blocked by the great firewall of China.
Steve, this has been fascinating.
We're up against the clock.
Nick, I can't thank you enough for coming on.
This has been absolutely sensational.
Just very briefly, just urge people with all this bad news, don't sink into despair.
We are the riders of the storm, the storms of the apocalypse.
Just stay together with the people you're on the same wavelength with and take it day to day.
Just we're here for a reason.
And just do whatever it is that you can do.
Well, on behalf of the Wisdom Circle and The Raw Deal, I want to thank Nick Kollerstrom for being here and all of you for listening.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys.
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