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May 6, 2020 - Jim Fetzer
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The Real Deal (24 April 2020) with Nick Kollerstrom
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This is Tim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal, with another opportunity to interview a man I may admire more than anyone in the world, with the exception of Muhammad Ali, Bill Russell, Bobby and Jack, Nick Kohlerstrom, who's done such stunning work across such a broad range of subjects.
Nick is here to share with us his revelations about the coronavirus pandemic.
Where he and I agree that there is something totally fraudulent taking place here.
Nick?
Yeah, well Jim, I thought you might like a view from across the pond.
I mean, I've got no great sort of original view on this, except that it's greatly exaggerated and it seems something very, very fraudulent is going on.
We've been looking at the government statistics here that come out every week, and the big decision was made around the Spring Equinox to lock this country down.
And what has puzzled us, this group in England, is that at the time when the government made the decision, there was no excess of mortality, no excess of lung disease, no great flu epidemic and the coronavirus deaths reported was half of 1% of the normal flu outbreak of the year, you know.
And the only thing, so the medical experts were advising the government that it wasn't a very serious pandemic.
They received advice from British medical experts saying we're downgrading the seriousness of this, it's not a grave threat, it's much more a comparatively mild event.
And instead of taking that advice, fairly sensible advice, they were panicked.
And what was it that panicked them?
It was something that came over from America.
We had a chap called Professor Ferguson at Imperial College, and he was basically a mouthpiece for Bill Gates' philosophy, right?
And on the 17th of March, this guy Ferguson came out with this prediction, a ridiculously exaggerated prediction, half a million people were going to die in this country unless something was done about it, and advocating total lockdown For about 18 months until the new vaccine appeared and everyone had to be vaccinated.
Yeah, he was predicting 2.2 million in America as well, Nick.
It was absolutely hysterical.
His apocalyptic models set off panic worldwide.
It's very strange, isn't it, that one published paper... I mean, anyone can put parameters into a computer model and you get an exponential curve.
Why did people take notice of it?
What's strange about the British statistics is that liftoff of cases and deaths happened after the lockdown.
That's what we're all very suspicious about.
If you look at total British deaths three weeks after the lockdown.
Lockdown was March the 23rd, spring lockdown.
If you look at the total deaths three weeks after, they are 40% more than total deaths three weeks before.
Wow.
Do you want me to move to the next slide, Nick?
You can see it.
Yeah, okay, let's move on a bit.
See what we get to.
Okay, now that didn't happen in America.
In America, we've got a sequence of weeks which starts off the beginning of the year, okay?
So what's called week 15 is the 10th of April.
And you can see there was no real change.
Number of deaths.
If you'd had sensible medical advice in America, somebody would say, right, well, We've got less deaths, 5% less deaths than last year, right through this year with no change.
Okay?
So that's not something to be frightened or alarmed about.
Shall we go on to the next one?
Okay, now this shows that when they started measuring, well, sorry, counting what they reckoned were CV deaths, coronavirus deaths, and that's a very, very dubious concept, right?
In fact, it's a very, very dodgy sleight of hand that they say people dying who registered positive for coronavirus.
It doesn't mean that coronavirus killed them.
It's a very common flu bug, and if that's present in the blood, that doesn't mean it kills you if you die.
It's mainly people with health defects, Or very old people who die.
Anyway, there is this concept what they're measuring coronavirus deaths.
And what this shows is that America has got quite a low level.
Look at only 150.
We count this as deaths per million.
That's the way we compare different nations, okay?
So you divide by the population of the country in millions.
And that gives you the number of deaths per million.
Is that clear?
Yeah, this is a wonderful slide, Nick.
I like it.
Right, so you can see America's something like half of the coronavirus deaths per million that you're getting in European countries.
So again, if something is happening, it's not terribly serious in America.
It doesn't look like anything to panic about.
What this slide shows, by the way, is that countries that haven't done the lockdown have generally much lower counts.
In Europe there's a terrific debate raging about Sweden.
Sweden had the guts to say, no, we're not locking down.
We're not closing everything down.
You can go out.
You can keep on your normal business, you can't meet in big crowds, you know, I think the schools might be closed down, but basically Sweden is still open for business and it's been fiercely criticized, but you can see here the statistics are coming out very clearly, Sweden is a lot less than most other European countries.
So I think this slide shows What common sense might tell you anyway, that locking people up in their houses is a way to incubate any virus and promote ill health.
It promotes stress, worry, fear, depression, loneliness, and from financial ruin, all sorts of things.
And so it's not really surprising that if people are locked up in their homes, things get a lot worse.
Okay?
OK, now just to give you a picture of what this figure means for America, just to help you visualise it, 150 per million.
That's the number of registered deaths for coronavirus, OK?
And you can count that as one in 6,000.
Well, I mean, would you panic if you were told that some sort of flu bug is killing off one in 6,000?
I hardly think so!
I mean, is that a reason for closing down your country, you know?
I mean, think of the catastrophic loss of business, bankruptcies, you know, trillions of dollars lost because of that.
And those aren't healthy people.
One in 6,000, they're old fogies, you know, people who, generally speaking, were expected to push off fairly soon.
Right, and anyway, this is just showing the arithmetic.
If you like, you can count it as 0.015%.
Those are the American fatalities.
Right, and this is another useful slide showing you, because it's easy to be scared if you're told, oh, how terrible, 20,000 deaths by coronavirus.
If you're just told that, it sounds a lot, right?
But for all the people on planet Earth, that is It's hundreds of times less than abortion deaths, about 500 times less than deaths by abortion.
Let's just keep it to scale.
What's stunning is it's so much smaller than seasonal flu.
Like, it's only one-fifth of seasonal flu, and it's one-tenth of malaria, and less than a tenth of suicide.
And we don't talk about pandemics of malaria or pandemics of the seasonal flu, Nick.
It's all exaggerated.
This is a political pandemic.
Political pandemic, and if I may just put it in mathematical terms, with seasonal flu, you know you're going to get a bell-shaped curve of fatalities.
That's a curve, it goes up for a bit, then it levels off, and then it comes down.
Yeah.
It's a normal shape of flu, any epidemic, right?
So a few weeks it goes up, a few weeks it comes down.
And they panicked everyone by talking about a logarithmic or exponential curve, as if it just keeps going up forever, you know?
And that is literally What was done to panic people?
It's a wrong mathematical model, as if some huge proportion of the population were going to get zapped.
I'm going to come on to that.
What proportion of the population actually do get zapped by this?
It's a very crucial question.
Okay, this is just pointing out that coronaviruses are absolutely normal, routine, there's a type of virus, comes around every year, they mutate a bit, but they're a normal part of any flu and here's a normal cleanser which claims it can Notice it identifies right here, Nick.
Calcicoli, Salmonella, etc., cold viruses, human, coronavirus, and RSV.
Very simple, very straightforward, commonplace, everyday food sanitizers, surface cleaner.
Yeah.
It's just called that name, Corona, because it's got some sort of circular structure.
I think that's... Well, it sort of looks like a crown.
It has kind of a crownish appearance when you look at the descriptions that have been given of it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now, there's a lot of number crunching involved here.
What I might not have brought out in these slides is the concept of what proportion of people who test positive for coronavirus actually die.
Now the World Health Organization scared everybody by saying oh three percent or six percent and that is a scary figure.
If you get more than one percent of the all the people who test positive for coronavirus are going to die then you could see any politicians you think oh shucks we better do something about this but it's not anything like that there have been various American surveys that um details that have counted get estimates of the proper size of of the population that are infected or exposed to the coronavirus
And you then get the number of the deaths are much nearer 0.1% of the total infected.
0.1, 0.15% and that is parts per thousand, right?
So for any politician wondering whether it's worth acting on, the proportion of infected people who are going to live and die is measured in a few parts per thousand, right?
Okay, now This is just English, this is what happened in England, or England, Wales.
You don't know anything like this in America, but I'm just pointing out this rather suspicious thing that happened in Britain.
We got a terrific lockdown, suddenly, on Spring Equinox, and before that we had a deficit, a very remarkable deficit of deaths, all that year, before the government acted, right?
So, there's been a deficit of death for whatever reason, and it suddenly surges up as soon as we get the lockdown.
We appear to be told to do things that are contrary to eradicating the virus, but instead incubate and promote it.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
Sorry, can we just go back to that a minute?
Of course.
OK, a lot of discussion.
Of the increase, not all of it is given as coronavirus positive, but some others.
So people are wondering what's going on.
But overall, more people dying suddenly.
And I think the government's got a lot of explaining to do.
The World Health Organization has just come out and said that throughout Europe, half of all the deaths of coronavirus are in old people's homes.
Well that's a terrible figure, you know, old people being bumped off.
This shows, this is the official government breakdown of deaths, and you could, I don't know if you can read along the bottom, but it's very much old people.
Here are people in their 80s, here are people in their 70s, 60s, 50s.
So it's very much an old people's disease, old people are afflicted, and also there's more men than women.
You can see, I don't know if you can see here, but the brown line is male.
So you've got an excess of men getting afflicted.
So I would say that does not look like a real illness.
That looks like something whereby people are getting bumps off and then people are just putting CV on the death certificate.
There's a whole scandal of what are people writing on the death certificate and pressure to put coronavirus on the death certificate.
Very nice points, Nick.
Very important.
In fact, we have a Minnesota State Senator, who's also an MD, who received an official request that if he had a patient who died and had never been tested, they should be identified as COVID-19.
And He reported hospitals are being paid $13,000 for every patient they identify as COVID-19.
for every patient they identify as COVID-19, $39,000 for every patient they put on a ventilator. - Yeah, well that is scandalous, isn't it?
Yeah, I don't think that's happening over here, but yeah, so the other thing is that the cause of death, it used to be said that, oh it's like pneumonia, it's like flu, you know, you get it on the lungs, and so we'd all think that coronavirus was something like flu or pneumonia, where the lungs are somehow afflicted, and there's a lot of talk about People not being able to absorb oxygen properly, so that may be one of the symptoms.
But then another one, also heart disease.
People die from heart failure.
The government's now telling us that's a common aspect of coronavirus death, heart failure.
Then they say, oh, diabetes, death from diabetes.
Then they say, oh, death from Alzheimer's disease.
Well, what does all that add up to?
Is it some illness?
No, it isn't.
It's a ragbag of symptoms.
People dying off and then pretending, or just because they're test positive for CV, that that is the cause of death.
So we've got an illusory pandemic which is actually generated by this test.
It's the test where a very large proportion of the population test positive and It's extremely obscure what this test measures, right?
It's some sort of multiplying of your DNA.
They look at, check out some part of your DNA, and quite what that shows is very, very obscure, you know.
But a lot of people test positive for it, and so it's the test itself, in a way, that's generating the illusion of this pandemic.
Okay?
Right.
Now let's come on to the progenitor events the year before 2019 that got this whole thing going.
Now we've often looked at state fabricated terror throughout this 21st century, so maybe this is slightly different.
It's more globalist fabricated rather than a state possibly.
But it was imagined in America.
There are two big events in America that visualized this whole thing, and got everybody ready for it, so everyone would know how to respond when it happened.
The first was in August.
August the 13th.
Operation Crimson Contagion in Washington.
There's a desktop exercise.
It said there was going to be a global influenza pandemic.
And that they had drawn up a detailed pandemic crisis action plan, and they've got something called a Disaster Leadership Group, and also a Domestic Resilience Group.
Now this is very much something that happens with state-fabricated terror, the concept of resilience.
You act out your drills, getting ready for the events, to plan for a terror attack.
And that is the concept of resilience, isn't it?
And you also have, you visualise a disaster and you act it out with great realism.
We've seen these in previous events, haven't we?
Like Sandy Hook and so on.
These things are visualised and drilled before they happen.
So this time they were visualising a worldwide pandemic and they visualised the instructions everyone was going to be given.
Lockdowns, instructions to stay at home, closing schools and social distancing.
So when it actually happened this year, one commentator says this fake flu pandemic eerily mirrors the real coronavirus outbreak the US is struggling with.
That was a process of planning and visualising the event.
OK, next.
Oh, yeah.
By the way, that was in August.
And we'll see, there's important synchronous going on here.
There was a massive biological warfare attack on China, on its pig farms.
It was in full swing then, August 2019.
It was the biggest ever biological warfare event, arguably.
Hundreds of millions of Chinese pigs were killed off, and that was happening just then, when that planning event was taking place.
OK, the next one, October the 18th.
So this is a few months later, and this is much better known because it's got Bill Gates in it.
So there's a globalist, World Economic Forum, Michael Bloomberg, and again, the whole preparation was visualised in terms of a news broadcast of something that was happening, like rolling news.
A Pandemic Emergency Board has been set up.
We need to prepare for the event that becomes a pandemic.
So it's all going to happen.
Because this visualised thing has come out from bats.
Bats, pigs, farmers.
It has to be quickly controlled.
Otherwise there'll be a severe worldwide pandemic and it circles the globe.
Right, so it has symptoms like pneumonia.
So it's got the concept of coronavirus here.
It talks about exponential increase, collapse of global financial markets.
So it's got most of the key factors of what actually happened.
Okay, next.
So this is only six weeks before the thing begins.
This is right before, and they say that the recommendations are aimed at top decision makers in national governments.
Well, this is before it's actually happened.
They're looking for top decision makers in national governments.
And then they're also looking for what they call trusted voices.
I think this is very sinister.
So for this deceptive, illusory pandemic, They're looking for trusted voices to scare the hell out of everybody.
Trusted voices in each country, in each community.
They want to find the trusted voices and also the idea of a long prolonged lockdown until the vaccine is developed.
Now that's exactly what Bill Gates was saying on British National Television this month in April.
He got prime time British National Television exactly saying that.
18 months, lockdown, vaccine, everybody in the world has to be vaccinated.
So this is Bill Gates' sort of wet dream.
He became a billionaire by making everyone get his Microsoft, you know, motherboard, his Microsoft programs.
Everyone had to use those and everyone had to get each new upgrade.
So now he wants to do it again with vaccines.
I'm making our vaccine available for everyone, so you can't get on an aeroplane or anything unless you've been vaccinated.
And Nick, of course for Gates, vaccination is a business!
He's not a scientist.
He's not a virologist.
He's not an epidemiologist.
He's not an M.D.
He's a computer geek who is a control freak and wants to control the world by vaccination.
He wants to make billions.
And Anthony Fauci is going to be a beneficiary if this goes forward.
Yeah, right.
Right.
OK, so those are the two big events in America, totally planning the events, with a whole lot of top-level people there, so that when it happens, when, they will know exactly what to do.
Right?
OK, next.
Right, you just mentioned the government White House advisor, Forky, and right at the beginning, when Trump was just being sworn in, he made a speech pandemic preparedness and he came out with these very categorical statements.
People wonder how could he do that?
No one had previously come out with these categorical statements.
No question they've been challenged in the arena of infectious diseases.
But also there will be a surprise outbreak.
Nick, how can it be a surprise if he's making a prediction in 2017?
And if the guy is in charge of pandemic preparedness, why didn't he prepare us for the pandemic in 2020?
He was already predicting in 2017.
Well, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it's very, very suspicious.
So, So let's, we're moving on to, going to come on to China now, but we start off our story by showing it was dreamed up and imagined in America, okay?
Now this is the process whereby I came over to England, Ferguson Imperial College, and you can see here, this is the year before 2018, or two years before, and he's getting eight million dollars grant for Vaccines.
And you can see something here that looks very much like a coronavirus, doesn't it?
Yeah.
So this is the year before it's been sort of named and they are realising this is the big new story and they're getting ready for it.
In the paper they gave, there were about 30 different authors, this ridiculous paper they came out with, predicting half a million dead in England, or if moderate control was exercised, it would go down to only about 200,000.
So this is the guy, single-handedly, scared the hell out of the British government, and got everyone locked down, based not on evidence, but on a computer model.
Which is kind of rather strange.
And it's not a medical expertise.
It's just a guy you can fiddle about with a computer, you know.
A science guy who can work his computer.
It's not medics who are saying this.
That's my impression.
OK?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
OK.
Now, in contrast with what he predicted, Hundreds of thousands of people dying.
Here's the actual record of deaths in the UK.
It went up to 700 or 800 a day and then after the first week of April it started to go down.
So it's now declining.
We see here a quite normal curve for a flu epidemic.
This is lasting Sort of, a month or two, it goes up, reaches the plateau, comes down.
So that's normally what a flu epidemic does.
Okay, next.
Right, now what happened in China was much earlier.
You can see this is February, a month earlier, and they worked very quickly to control it.
You can see the numbers are far smaller.
So they had an outbreak and I think about 8th April they were re-opening, weren't they?
They re-opened Wuhan.
So you can see the numbers here are much smaller.
OK.
Now, China, it seems very unexpected and strange, is becoming the new enemy of America.
You might have thought America got enough enemies with Iran and Russia, and the whole Muslim world.
Muslim terrorists, you're right, you might have thought that was enough enemies.
Why do they want another enemy with China?
Well, China was overtaking America as the number one trading power in the world, or most affluent amount of trade, I think.
And here's a chart showing which countries do people trust, in terms of doing business, in 2018.
And you can see here that China is right up the top.
It's a trustworthy, reliable nation.
And what's happened to America?
Oh shucks!
It's gone right down to the bottom hasn't it?
It's very low down, right at the bottom of that chart of the US.
So it's crashed down and in a sense America decided it wanted to do something about this.
It didn't want China just to go on getting this wonderful prestige and all the 5G technology, the Huawei, was going around the world and the Chinese Silk Road initiative.
So as I see it, this new warfare against China developed.
What the Pentagon might call unconventional warfare.
It's not shooting guns, but let's see what's happened.
Okay, next.
Right, for years America has totally been violating the Biological Weapons Convention by developing bioweapon labs and seeking for racially programmed or racially focused biological weapons in the sense of by using insects and bats trying to find viruses that could cross over into humans.
So it's horrible research has been doing and Russia and China feel have felt very much threatened by this as if they were trying to find something genetically that would work on them.
Okay, next.
Right, this DARPA seems to be very much involved.
I don't know if you'd like to say something about that, Jim?
But they seem to have been trying to develop viruses related to coronavirus strain and working with bats over the years.
It's just disgusting.
It's just disgusting how Fort Detrick appears to have been closed down because of some sort of leakage, and they transferred their staff to public universities, in particular the University of North Carolina, where I myself taught one year.
And then Fauci, in 2017, sent the Wuhan Level 4 lab $3.7 million to continue the research.
sent the Wuhan level 4 lab $3.7 million to continue the research.
I think that was part of the plot to make China responsible for the pandemic that in fact had been devised by Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, and Nigel Ferguson.
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah.
And what is this high-level Chinese biolab outside Wuhan?
Why did they develop it?
It's the only level 4 biolab in all of China, in Wuhan, yes.
Right.
And it's in close proximity to the wet market where they wanted to claim that it originated.
Well, I heard it was about 20 miles away, outside of the town.
Yes.
Yeah, relatively close, yeah.
Okay, so this DARPA has been That Chinese biolab has perhaps unwisely got these links at Wuhan, links with this American DARPA Institute, and in some sense accepted money from them, which might have been unwise.
Can we just say that?
Yeah, right.
Now what happened 18th of October?
Now I don't know if you notice, that's the same date as the event 201 at Bill Gates.
That is when it began, okay?
So there's a synchrony here, the big planning of a coronavirus pandemic, global pandemic, looking for trusted leaders and everything, and it was going to go around the world, that on the same day as that was opening, that selected this American team going to this something called Military World Games in Wuhan, which is kind of I think that's an excellent point, Nick.
So the military competes with games, and the Chinese were very puzzled that this year, or last year, the American team did so badly at these games, which they don't usually do.
So very badly, as if they weren't serious, as if they weren't there for really participating in the games.
I think that's an excellent point, Nick, an excellent point. - Yeah, participation was perfunctory It was only a cover for the delivery of the Covid virus.
Yeah, that's what it looks like, yeah.
Now, I don't know if you've confirmed this.
This is very, very critical for the whole argument.
They stayed in the Wuhan Oriental Hotel, which is only a few hundred metres from the seafood market.
And all the blame is going to be put on the seafood market, as if they're selling bats there or something, which I gather they don't sell bats there actually.
So the blame is put on the seafood market, as if the Chinese are being very unhygienic there.
But actually these US soldiers are staying in the hotel, and that is where the first cluster of CV19 cases are found, in that Oriental home, 42 of them.
I mean, I can't find any details about that.
Whereas, what you get in the seafood market is a much smaller group, only seven, and they all had contact with those 42 from the hotel.
Yeah.
I think they catch an eye's point that this appears to have been the delivery mechanism.
Yeah, yeah.
Is it also correct this American military games team had trained near Fort Detrick, which is US Military Virology Research Lab, if that's where, that is said to be where they're trained.
So this is all looking very suspicious.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now I'm suggesting that Major bio-warfare is taking place against China.
I'll quote Ron Unce.
By the way, Ron Unce, I'd say, is America's top intellectual website, unce.com, and he is supporting, he's a very sensible middle-of-the-road chap, and he is supporting the hypothesis that this
This outbreak was brought by American biowarfare experts into Wuhan and he said how would Americans react if 300 Chinese military officers had an extended visit in Chicago and soon afterwards a mysterious and deadly outbreak suddenly broke out in that city.
So he is saying that that is what happened and so I think a lot of people take Rouran seriously So I think that's very helpful, because obviously American politicians are trying to blame China now, aren't they?
They're trying to demonize China and blame it for the outbreak.
If we do accept this hypothesis of American biowarfare experts ceding it, then there's been a very bad case of blowback, hasn't there?
That they've got poisoned by their own biological weapons, if indeed that is what has happened.
Yes, indeed, yes.
I think he's spot on as are you, Nick.
Yeah, okay, well just hang on, just go back, just go back.
Of course.
Yeah, okay, let's just go through the sequence.
2018, bird flu virus decimated China's chicken industry.
2019, a much more massive outbreak, the largest ever bioweapon impact event, that's what it's been described as, the swine flu virus outbreak.
And it was like about half of all Chinese pigs died off.
And Ron Hunts seemed to think there were a lot of claims that it was being spread by mysterious small drones.
I don't know if anyone takes that seriously.
But anyway, things were synchronising here.
Let's notice the synchrony.
But I mentioned in August That was when the first of the two major events was taking place, wasn't it?
That crimson contagion in America in August.
That is when the pig flu was at its peak and a US trade war with China was hotting up and all the Western instigated Hong Kong pro-democracy riots were taking place.
So the various major attempts by America to undermine China So I suggest that's been going on right through to 2019, and I suggest that this gives us a perspective for what finally happened in Wuhan, an attempt to infect people with some sort of mutated coronavirus.
I'm not capable of saying, I'm competent to say how it was mutated, but some people seem to think it was.
Okay, now we come on to a very different angle, a totally different angle, and I don't want to be too dogmatic about what's going on here.
This is one expert who is saying that what is allegedly a coronavirus is actually something else, something normally produced by a cell when it's under stress, called an exosome.
Now I notice quite a lot of informed sources seem to be endorsing this view by Professor Andrew Kaufman, who's well qualified, that that picture, what you're seeing there, as a sort of round sphere with a whole lot of knobs on, that is actually something alive.
Please be aware, a virus is something non-living.
A virus is something that doesn't grow, doesn't consume, doesn't eat, doesn't divide.
It's just a bit of nucleic acid that In itself it is not alive okay whereas these things here rather look more as if they are alive and he's saying this is something it's under electron microscopy produced by a cell when it's under stress to try and try and protect itself.
Okay next.
Right there's just another picture of the exosome inside the cell And it looks similar to what we're being told is a coronavirus.
And there's also a lot of talk about when the Chinese originally identified this, this is about November 2019, what was happening in Wuhan, that they didn't get a purified sample of the virus, which in a way you're supposed to do.
detected some RNA in a cell.
So a lot of people feel they didn't give enough evidence for a real virus.
Okay.
Right.
There's another angle on all this, which I suspect is going to be very important, but this is the year in which 5G is being rolled out, and this is a massive event, and
It's going to transform planet Earth, the enormous intensity of electromagnetic energy that's going to be in space now, at a level and frequency that will, I think, damage all living things.
Professor Martin Paul from Washington State University, Nick, has observed, and he's done massive studies on these issues, that rolling out 5G without conducting prior safety studies of their effects on human beings and other living things is the dumbest idea in the history of the world.
Right, yeah.
I mean, it is so astounding that they have not They have not tested it.
I just can't believe it.
I wake up in the morning, I just can't believe it.
I mean, a lot of people say that insects have largely gone now from the ground, or a lot of places, and that's 4G.
And little creatures all around the world are dying because they haven't got insects to feed off.
And a lot of stories of birds either falling out of the trees or being unable to navigate once 5G is switched on.
And Nick, as we know, when you interrupt one level in the food chain, all levels higher that are dependent upon the lower are destined for extinction.
Yeah, yeah, right.
And bees, I mean, how do people think they're going to survive without bees?
Bees are getting zapped by this radiation.
They are more sensitive to it than we are in a way.
So I think that The health effects of 5G can't really be exaggerated.
I won't start going about the awful effects it's going to have.
I think you're going to get kids with a attention span, a sort of goldfish type attention span.
They won't be able to focus their mind for very long.
I won't be able to read books at all.
So this is a new world we're coming in, which is basically Robot City.
Basically 5G is for cities in which robots can function very well.
Can take over, you know, driving us cars and all that.
I mean, is that the world you want to live in?
And human beings might... Good for robots, bad for human beings.
What's that, Jim?
Good for robots, but bad for human beings.
Yeah, I think sterility will increase.
Sterility is plummeting already in the Western world.
I think that will increase.
Anyway, I noticed that in terms of the censorship, you know a lot of YouTube videos are getting censored now.
One thing they can't bear is anything linking 5G and the symptoms people are getting, or claim they're getting, with coronavirus.
And those get deleted and ferociously denounced.
There's a whole lot of official statements that The government doesn't want these harmful conspiracy theories that mislead people by trying to connect 5G with the various symptoms people get or are claiming to get with coronavirus.
But I mean a lot of people do understand that Wuhan was the big test center for 5G in China.
In terms of what happened in Wuhan, you've got very intense air pollution.
People are sort of coughing and wheezing and spitting all the time.
It's like a pea soup.
So you've got that.
Then you get 5G switched on.
In other words, 5G switched on exactly synchronises with this apparent outbreak of what they claim is coronavirus.
This is a quite precise agreement.
There's talk of places with high 5G, like for example there was a ship, a luxury ship, where they said people got infected and there was some crisis that it was infected.
Well it was totally wired up for 5G, that's regardless of luxury for all the games people want, and you can't escape from it on a ship.
So those symptoms may be expressing what we get with 5G, And this is something that... I mean, we are electrical organisms, especially the brain, human brain, the human heart, the neurons, all the neuron circuits, they are electrical.
And you can't expect to have... 5G has a massive increase in energy density per cubic meter, right?
Microwatts per cubic meter massively increases with 5G compared with the earlier versions.
And you have a huge number of antennae going up everywhere to do this.
So this is a kind of nightmare, untested nightmare, that somehow is being inflicted on us.
I find it very strange, Jim, that the governments don't have proper health advisors.
You might take the Environmental Protection Agency.
I mean, America, you've got an Environmental Protection Agency, haven't you?
I think they've been bought up.
Bill Gates is the biggest financial contributor to the Center for Disease Control, to the World Health Organization, and to the National Institutes of Health.
Nick, he basically owns and controls those entities.
I think it was a matter of putting the right players in the right positions in order to launch this incredible political pandemic which is going to have devastating consequences for the world and may actually lead to the extinction of the human race.
Well, yeah.
What I find strange is, first of all, I find it amazing the way everyone believes in it, you know.
I mean, it's absolute uniform belief that, you know, isolating ourselves and wearing masks and everything will protect you.
I mean, what evidence has anyone got for that?
Why do you believe that?
Yes, yes.
But there's terrific uniformity of belief.
I mean, it's hard to think of anything in which everyone agrees with.
Normally everyone disagrees.
So they've managed to impose this uniformity.
And when you look at the map of where 5G has been rolled out and where coronavirus has occurred, there's a stunning correlation, just as there is with the use of vaccines, with aluminum and mercury bases and the increase in autism across the United States especially.
It's a perfect correlation there.
Right yeah well autism is very frightening the way that is so much linked with taking the vaccine and I urge every family to say no if you can.
I know they make it harder and harder they say oh you can't send your kid to school unless you've been vaccinated um but uh so the pressure is on yeah and uh with uh with as we come out of this This mock epidemic, this mock-pandemic, they're gonna... I don't know quite how it'll work, but we'll have mobile phones telling you if you can go out or whatever.
The agenda is to have worldwide IDs for vaccination, so you have to show you've been vaccinated to get on a plane, to go on a subway, to go to work.
It's incredible, Nick, what they're doing here with a manufactured crisis.
None of this was necessary, and we would have been far better off without the lockdowns, as you have so clearly demonstrated.
Yeah, if nobody mentions coronavirus, we'd all be a lot better off, yeah.
I mean, some people would have died of the virus.
Obviously, I'm not underestimating that, but we just accept that every year.
It sweeps round and old people get bumped off.
So anyway, what you just said, it hasn't actually happened yet, and let's hope that people come to their senses a bit and say we don't need this kind of future in surveillance society.
Nick, I can't thank you enough for another brilliant presentation on an extraordinarily important subject.
It could not be more timely or informative.
This is Jim Fetzer, your host on The Real Deal, thanking my special guest today, Nick Kohlerstrom, a historian of science from the UK, for a devastating expose of the coronavirus pandemic fakery.
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