What Everyone Missed About ABC Cancelling Jimmy Kimmel!
Jimmy Kimmel’s late night talk show has been suspended after the host joked about Charlie Kirk’s killer, sparking FCC criticism and ABC’s abrupt decision to pull the show. Guest host James Li and Jimmy discuss how the controversy highlights hypocrisy: Kimmel wasn’t punished for past remarks about the unvaccinated but is now targeted over politically charged comments. They note the absurdity of the FCC floating “remedies” against a comedian while mainstream media outlets routinely spread misinformation without consequence. Ultimately, Jimmy frames the episode as corporate-driven censorship, fueled by ratings decline and political weaponization, while pointing out how both parties exploit “free speech” arguments only when convenient. Plus segments on moves afoot to hand control of TikTok over to Israel and the televised shouting match between Destiny and Piers Morgan over Charlie Kirk’s death. Also featuring Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss of the Due Dissidence show!
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Let me pull up the slide here.
Jimmy Kimmel, pulled off air by ABC for Charlie Kirk comments.
After FCC pressure, Jimmy Kimmel is facing criticism from the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission for remarks about the politics of the man who was accused of killing Mr. Kirk, the conservative activist.
Have you heard the actual monologue, Jimmy?
Because I'm going to play that right now.
Yes, I have.
Go ahead, play it.
All right, here we go.
Some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.
On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism.
But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
My condulations on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk.
May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks?
They've just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
And it's going to be a beauty.
Yes.
He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
Demolition, construction.
This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend.
This is how a four-year-old mourns.
Okay, so there's nothing wrong with it.
The joke was solid, actually.
So he's got his writers are solid.
The joke about that's the fourth stage of grief construction.
That's a funny joke, but the problem was the first part of what he said, right?
I think that's what they're talking about.
They're saying that he's in hot water because he lied about the political ideology of the alleged shooter.
Now, I don't know how you feel.
I don't even know if that is the alleged shooter at this point in terms of my own beliefs, but that's what they're saying.
And it's sort of unclear, at least to me, because I don't know if you saw Ken Klippenstein's reporting, but basically all of his friends are saying he's sort of apolitical.
He doesn't really post about anything political.
I think both sides are weaponizing this in order to score political points and say, hey, this is a radical left, you know, lunatic.
Other side is saying, no, this is a right-wing, you know, groiper.
I've heard that as well.
So I don't know what the hell is going on.
But here it's he certainly for Jimmy Kimmel to imply that that kid's a right-winger or a MAGA or it just, it seems ridiculous.
He did it.
And he did it in a really kind of sleazy way also.
And again, that's not comedy, what he's doing.
What he's doing is just partisan claptrap.
He's feeding chum to the rabid partisans.
And that's not what comedy is about.
Comedy is about challenging the status quo.
Comedy is about challenging your audience.
And so, I mean, Jimmy Kimmel, he's never done a comedy show without an applause sign above his head.
So when was the last time any of the late night hosts challenged the establishment or challenge power?
I mean, I don't think those are the comedians that are really pushing the forefront of.
Well, I mean, he challenges power when it's the party he doesn't like.
So if he doesn't like, he doesn't like Donald Trump and the Republicans.
So he challenges them.
And then they all make excuses for the Democrats.
It's the weirdest thing.
And then, of course, somehow he gets called a lefty.
Those aren't lefties.
Those are establishment authoritarian Democrats.
They're not liberal.
They're illiberal.
I mean, you know, the weird thing is Jimmy Kimmel should have got canceled when he told people that when he advocated for denying unvaccinated people emergency services when they were having a heart attack.
Remember that?
And when he was for mandating experimental medical treatment.
And so those were the things that should have got him canceled, but of course it didn't.
And then it's something like this.
So I don't know what's up for next for Jimmy Kimmel.
Maybe he's going to do a stint on Naked and Afraid.
That sounds like good.
You're going to be outside.
You're going to want to be somewhere and naked.
You want to be somewhere warm.
So, hey, I got it.
Why don't they drop him off at Epstein Island?
At least he'd know his way around.
Well, maybe, or maybe he'll write a $1 million check to Turning Point USA, which is, I think, what they want.
Oh, really?
Okay.
Yeah, this idea, you know, I saw there was a line, there was a petition circulating on Twitter or X, and there was all these comedians saying that, oh, we can't be censored.
Every time I've ever done a late night television show, I've been censored.
They go over with a fine-tooth comb about what you're allowed to say and what you're not allowed to say.
So this idea that all of a sudden censorship just started with Jimmy Kimmel is kind of ridiculous.
Yeah, 100%.
We'll get to that in a second.
So let's see what the New York Times is writing about this.
So they say ABC on Wednesday evening announced on Wednesday evening that it was pulling Jimmy Kimmel's late night show indefinitely after conservatives accused the longtime host of inaccurately describing the politics of the man who was accused of fatally shooting the right-wing activist Charlie Kirk.
The abrupt decision by the network, which is owned by the Walt Disney Company, came hours after the chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr, assailed Mr. Kimmel and suggested that his regulatory agency might take action against ABC because of remarks the host made on his Monday telecast.
Mr. Carr, in an interview on a right-wing podcast on Wednesday, said that Mr. Kimmel's remarks were part of a, quote, concerted effort to lie to the American people and that the FCC was, quote, going to have to, going to have remedies that we can look at.
Frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, we can do this the easy way or the hard way, Mr. Carr told the podcast host Benny Johnson.
These companies can find ways to change conduct and take actions, frankly, on Kimmel, or there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.
The decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel Live was made by Bob Iger, Disney chief executive, and Dana Walden, the company's television chief, according to two people with knowledge of the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private process.
Trump is pretty pleased about this, though, I have to say.
He says, great news for America.
The ratings challenge Jimmy Kimmel's show is canceled.
Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done.
Kimmel has zero talent and worse ratings than even Colbert, if that's possible.
Yes, it is indeed possible.
That leaves Jimmy and Seth two total losers on fake news NBC.
Their ratings are also horrible.
Do it, NBC, President DJT.
I mean, this is Trump.
I mean, it's certainly beyond ridiculous that the FCC would try to try to censor a late night comedian's monologue.
That is silly.
I wonder what kind of remedies they're talking about because every news show says unbelievable lies every day, right?
I think the New York Times, I think they had a slogan, the truth comes at a cost, but the lies are free.
So, and I mean, what was RussiaGate, but one repeated lie after another?
What was the coverage of COVID and ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the vaccine?
It was one lie after another after.
So, I mean, is really the FCC is going to step in and start declaring what's true and what's not.
I mean, that's not no, but that's not the journey.
I don't think that's the role of the FCC.
And so, yeah, it is kind of outrageous and ridiculous that they said that.
That is.
I think that's the two parts of this that I'm grappling with is one, I don't like the idea, I'm sure you don't either, of the government weaponizing various regulatory agencies to come in and censor people.
On the other hand, Kimmel works for ABC.
Like you said, there is no semblance of free speech.
That's not his platform.
Like Jimmy Kimmel Live is not a free speech show.
So why would we expect free speech coming out of this?
Elizabeth Warren saying, first Colbert, now Kimmel, last minute settlements, secret side deals, multi-billion dollar mergers pending Donald Trump's approval.
It sure looks like giant media companies are enabling his authoritarianism.
Chuck Schumer says America is meant to be a bastion of free speech.
Everybody across the political spectrum should be speaking out to stop what's happening to Jimmy Kimmel.
This is about protecting democracy.
This must go to court.
So I just, before you chime in, I just want to remind people real quick, okay?
These are the same people who said in the past, Donald Trump needs to be suspended from Twitter.
He's including others with his tweets, and he should lose the privilege of being on Twitter.
Add your name if you agree.
And this is from a couple years ago.
White House pushes Spotify big tech to continue crackdown on quote misinformation amid Joe Rogan controversy.
White House continues to nudge platforms towards online censorship.
So what is this all about?
Yeah, well, and where were these people screaming about Julian Assange being convicted of a felony for doing journalism under Biden's administration?
So this idea that they're somehow champions of free speech or a free press is kind of laughable because they were all for canceling people and censoring people when it came around COVID, when it came to social media, and they didn't have anything to say about it.
But so again, yeah, the hypocrisy is off the charts on this one for sure.
It's go to court for what?
What if the FCC didn't do anything, right?
Am I wrong about this, James?
It was ABC and Bob Iger who decided to suspend Jimmy Kimmel.
Maybe the FCC, that guy, he shot his mouth off, but did he actually do anything?
Did they do anything?
I mean, what's going to go to court?
I don't know.
I mean, when I was employed by big corporations, they always were very clear that you're an at-will employee.
I don't know what kind of contract that Kimmel has, but I'm pretty sure corporations can fire you for whatever reason they want to.
And I'm sure this is something that they're thinking about just based on what happened to Colbert, right?
This is, once again, the ratings are down.
Kimmel has a bloated salary.
They're saying, yeah, we got to get rid of this guy somehow.
Maybe this is a good opportunity for us to do something like that.
That's kind of my guess is the corporate executives Thinking around this because quite honestly, these guys are dinosaurs.
I mean, this late night thing, I think you've been around that for a long time.
I think the format needs to change.
I think it needs a little refreshing.
And you could say by your show, like you do just with what?
A fraction of that.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So if Jimmy Kimmel, if people really love him so much, why doesn't he go do a show like Joe Rogan did?
Joe Rogan gets 20 times the viewership that Jimmy Kimmel does.
And he just doesn't have all the flashing lights and the rockets going off.
But basically, his show is just talking to people.
I mean, that's Jimmy Kimmel's show: he comes out and he does a monologue and then he talks to people.
That's basically what Joe Rogan does.
He talks to people.
So again, if you, if, you know, they all did a podcast during COVID, it was Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert, and I don't know, was it Seth Myers?
I don't even know who the other person was, but nobody watched it.
Did you remember that?
Do you remember when they did that?
They did a four-person podcast that was going to be their gift to the people while we were in lockdowns and they could, and no one gave a shit.
No one watched it.
No one cared.
And it just reminds me, it's like, why do people watch these late night shows anymore?
And I think it's mostly for a sleep aid.
Well, I don't know.
Maybe they need all the flashing lights in order to make them look cooler because you strip all that down.
It's like, okay, you're kind of a hollow shell.
And that's another thing, too, with Kimmel is that he doesn't have really the weight to throw around like Rogan does as far as saying whatever he wants to say.
First of all, he doesn't really have anything to say other than being a part of the pack.
And then secondly, here, it's like you're not in a free speech platform.
Rogan, if you remember him, everybody was calling for his head.
And Spotify is like, you know, this is like our biggest podcast by far.
Sorry, guys.
We're going to keep him on air.
And that's kind of how it works under capitalism.
If you can demand, you know, the attention, the money, you're probably going to be able to stay.
But if your ratings are suffering, nobody likes you, then yeah, you're going to go.
Yeah, so I don't know.
Is Phil Fallon, is he like the only one not on the Epstein flag list of the late night talk shows?
I mean, I don't know.
Fallon has not come up for me.
I don't think Fallon or Myers are on the radar as far as the Epstein stuff.
But it's kind of interesting that Mike Myers has a show.
Like, do people really zoom in to watch Mike?
That is just mind-boggling.
Yeah, I'm sorry, Seth Myers.
Yes, you got me saying it too.
No, Seth Myers.
It's just kind of mind-boggling.
He is just another, you know, milquetoast white guy, middle of the road.
And he's not horrible, but there's nothing special about him.
And so, well, I really would like to go ahead.
No, I guess, again, these people who are screaming about, oh, this is censorship.
Where were they when they kicked the former president off Twitter?
And all the other social media.
Where were when they kicked RFK off of Meta because he was telling the truth about Ivermectin?
Where were they when they were trying to censor Joe Rogan?
When they were censoring me and everybody else on.
I mean, did they not read the Twitter files?
Everybody's acting like this just started.
And by the way, they've been canceling people for their political beliefs.
You know, the Smothers brothers got canceled in the late 60s because they opposed the Vietnam War, right?
So this is not, this is nothing new.
Bill Hicks, my favorite comedian of all time, his entire set on David Letterman was cut out of the show because it was too controversial for their advertisers.
So he came out, he did his, he did his set, his set got approved by their producers.
He comes out, he does his set, it kills.
They cut it out of the final show.
So they've been censoring.
This is nothing new.
Late night is all about, it's corporate television.
It's all about censorship.
Every time I go on late night television, or every time I did, they would tell me exactly what I could and could not say, and you could not stray.
So this is very rich for the people to be making this argument.
Now, I mean, if it was the FCC who came in and got him shut down, yeah, that's a different, but it doesn't seem like that happened.
It sounds like the FCC guy shot his mouth off and then the ABC just decided to do what they wanted to do.
100%.
And what you're missing in the story, Jimmy, is that there's good censorship and bad censorship.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm just kidding.
No, that's why I'm going to leave off on this Charlie Kirk tweet because I think this is what America really needs to listen to to pay attention to the late Charlie Kirk here.
Hate speech does not exist legally in America.
There is ugly speech.
There's gross speech.
There's evil speech.
And all of it is protected by the First Amendment.
Keep America Free.
Let's remember that because it seems like the pattern that the pattern over and over is that whichever party or group is in power, they start to censor.
And when they're not in power, they cry, you know, they cry about cancellations and things like that.
But when they get in power, they are one of the first to do that exact same thing.
So let's just keep that in mind.
Anything to create more division in the country, anything to create more distraction over the Epstein list.
That's what this feels like to me.
100%.
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Speaking of censorship here, we got some updates on TikTok.
According to the Wall Street Journal, TikTok is in final talks to be bought by Oracle, Silverlake, and Andreessen Horowitz.
This is the exact people you would want in charge of TikTok.
TikTok, which the U.S. government moved to ban last year for allowing criticism of Israel to go viral, is reportedly in final talks to be bought by a small group of Zionist billionaires.
This, by the way, is exactly what they said would happen last year.
TikTok's operations, U.S. operations would be controlled by an investor consortium, including Oracle, Silverlake, and Andreessen Horowitz under a framework the U.S. and China are finalizing.
The Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the matter.
TikTok, facing an eminent ban and under pressure from the Anti-Defamation League, hired former Israeli Defense Forces instructor Erica Mendel to quote develop and drive the company's position on hate speech with a focus on combating anti-Semitism.
So this is, you know, this is, this has been in the works for a long time.
So if you guys remember last year, China, or they, they kept playing China and how this is a national security issue because China is spying on this.
But in fact, it's probably another country potentially that's spying on us.
And also, you know, this has been in the works for a long time.
If we remember Jonathan Greenblatt last year talking about in the Israeli Knesset, talking about how important it was that they capture quote-unquote TikTok, well, it has now been captured.
This is Glenn Greenwald, Larry Ellison, the Oracle mega billionaire who has donated millions to the IDF.
This is insane how a private American citizen is just donating money to the Israeli military.
This is totally normal stuff.
Just had his kid buy Paramount CBS to have Barry Weiss run it and is now also trying to buy CNN and is now buying TikTok with Andreas and Horowitz.
Lucky break for Israel as its support collapses in the U.S. And in terms of the changes, it's already happening very fast.
So I did some reporting on this in that last week, they rolled out a new algorithm called M2 that will block harmful and misleading content from landing on the For You page.
And also just to reiterate, the person who runs the TikTok hate speech policy is a former IDF soldier.
All the timing is very convenient.
Let's hear from a prominent TikToker, Zachary Faust here, who has over a million followers.
He does not only reporting on the real estate industry, but also everything else that's going on.
And he's going to explain what it is that's happening to the algorithm.
Last post on TikTok.
All right.
I think we have the video work is twofold.
The first reason is something you probably know.
The second, you may not.
The first reason is that tonight at midnight, there's going to be a new algorithm update that is called the M2 update.
The M2 update is to prevent harmful and misleading content from making its way under your For You page.
This internal algorithm they'll be using to monitor all content that goes out is going to be monitoring what's being said and the sentiment within the message.
And if you were to take a random stab in the dark at who is going to be running this new algorithm, who's going to be on the cybersecurity side on the back end, it will be none other than these guys that were hired within the last 12 months.
Number two, the part you probably don't know about is there's a lot of rumors going around, and we'll see if it's true, that every video that's ever made its way onto TikTok is going to be put into this system to be filtered and analyzed to see if anything we've posted in the past wouldn't fall under the M2 guideline.
Accounts will receive strikes, community guideline violations, and if the current rules still apply, three strikes can mean your account is permanently banked.
So let me go ahead and use all the words.
If Israel continues to run a genocide, if billionaires and elite continue to use the usery model and fractional reserve lending to sift away money from the poor to the rich, if the Epstein list and those that have already been incriminated as being a part of it continue to get away with what they've done.
And as long as the entirety of the Gen Z generation continues to get gaslit by a tyrannical government that's making them seem like they just need to work harder to get what they got, even though nothing is the same, I will continue to talk about it.
That was a pretty badass little ending there.
But what do you think, Jimmy?
What's going on here?
What are they?
Well, what's going on is exactly what Jonathan, I think Graham Greenblad was caught saying that if the left and the right come together, it's over for them, right?
And so that's what's happening.
So the youth, they've lost the youth, and that's what they're really afraid of.
And that's a lot of people speculate why Charlie Kirk was assassinated was because he was starting to turn against Israel and then Benjamin Netanyahu and turning down their bribes and becoming independent.
And he is a very powerful voice.
He has a network built out around the country of college kids.
So everybody under 30 looks to Charlie Kirk and the conservative movement.
And so this is the same thing.
All the young people are on TikTok.
And this is about if they can't, I mean, even Hillary Clinton said, if we can't control the narrative, it's over for us.
So that's why they're doing this.
So Zionists, basically, Israel's taking over TikTok and they're going to try to wipe the site clean of any criticism of calling out the genocide and calling out Israel.
And again, welcome to this is the era of free speech that Donald Trump said he was going to usher in.
So it's a joke.
And I wonder what will happen to the TikTok.
You know, the thing is that TikTok's super popular, but this is just another form of censorship and it's the censorship.
If they could figure out more ways to get people to hate on Israel, this is like a new way.
Like every day, they come up with a new way to make people hate Israel.
The other day it was Marco Ruby was going to take away your passport if you get caught criticizing.
They're going to take away your government contracts if you don't vow to keep buying weapons.
It's just, it's unbelievable.
It's like they're inventing ways to make people hate Israel.
And this is just another one of them.
But will it, I mean, so this is it.
If they have to control the message, and if they can't control the message, then they have to start disappearing people.
That's exactly what they do.
And here's the part that irks me the most.
And I think maybe it's deliberate, maybe it's not, but it seems like, you know, if you do censorship maybe on behalf of the American regime, that would maybe be okay.
But now it's very clear you're doing censorship on behalf of a foreign country, which I think a lot of people are very uncomfortable with.
And that's that's the part that's really peculiar about this whole thing is why are we doing it?
Why are we so why are we so in bed with this with this country that seems to be abusing us?
That's kind of uh that's kind of my thought process.
And these changes are happening really quick.
I'm on TikTok.
You know, that's one of my largest platforms that I'm on.
And you could see it happening very quickly.
My two next videos after this M2 update was rolled out was almost immediately throttled and taken offline for community guidelines violations.
They were both videos about Israel.
You can also, some people are reporting you can't even talk about the actual sale of TikTok itself.
I'll pull this up right now.
This is another TikToker, your favorite guy.
TikTok is removing content from their feeds that call out Zionist billionaire and Trump ally Larry Ellison for building a media monopoly.
Ellison is reportedly poised to take control of a majority share of TikTok, right?
They're not even allowing people to even talk about and give information on the nature of the sale of the company, which is absolutely insane.
And this is from drop site news here.
TikTok is reportedly escalating a sweeping crackdown on pro-Palestine creators, deleting videos, scrubbing comments, and bearing posts about Gaza.
Right.
This is once again about Erica Mendel, former IDF instructor who now runs the TikTok policy team.
And she says her Zionism was, quote, shaped during Operation Protective Edge.
I think that was 2014, a ground offensive against Gaza.
And yeah, this is just insane where they're talking about introducing these new community guidelines, banning users from calling the IDF terrorists.
We don't have such rules for any other military or even the American military, right?
You can go ahead and call them terrorists and that's totally fine.
No problem there.
And it seems like they're creating special rules.
It does seem very odd that, or I think the pro-Israel people, this is, I guess, my advice to them is they should maybe think about why this is happening versus just this clampdown to say, hey, if you need to make special rules to protect your organizations or your institutions from being ridiculed and attacked, maybe look inward versus, you know, trying to just delete everybody off of the internet.
Because I think, you know, in the case of Charlie Kirk, you could see some patterns around, hey, the first thing they do is they try to buy you off, right, through APAC and things like that.
They try to pay you money to get you to say what you want to say.
If you don't, then it's, oh, then it's maybe cancellation to say, well, if you don't do this, then we're going to go after everybody that you love, your family, things like that.
And then maybe ultimately is to delete you completely off the face of the internet.
So I don't know exactly what their plan is going forward, but I think this is really critical, like Jimmy was saying earlier, in that TikTok is where the young people is at.
If you see the number one platform is YouTube with 90% of teens 13 to 17 on it.
But secondly, it is TikTok.
So that means that this is where they're getting all their information from.
And that's why, you know, when people come at me and say, well, you know, if you get rid of TikTok, you still have X. You know, X is a free speech platform, quote unquote.
And I say, well, that's not really critical because if you see X way down in the list in terms of active users, you want this type of information or they're really afraid of this type of information to be proliferating on what I would call, you know, more or less kind of a normie platform where, you know, you see cooking videos, you see dancing videos, you see pranks, and all of a sudden, wow, a video about Gaza.
And people are like, what the fuck happened here?
And so that's, I think, very dangerous to them.
And also TikTok, which is a little different than YouTube.
YouTube, I think you go on, you watch a video for 10 minutes, 20 minutes.
There's not this sort of interactive component to the platform.
Whereas if you use TikTok, people on there in the comments, you can reply to a video with another video.
Then there's conversations made off of that.
So I think that is the part that they're really afraid of in terms of the organic reach of that platform.
And this is why exactly why they're shutting it down.
I don't know if at this point, you know, I was one of the big proponents of wanting to save TikTok just as a platform where free speech could happen, but it's clear that that is no longer going to be a prioritization.
And so is that even worth saving?
And another thing I'll add is that what they're proposing with this algorithm is to essentially create a walled off US portion of the app where the US users are fed certain or on a very particular algorithm that's different than everywhere else in the world, very similar to how China does it.
And I think.
Well, isn't that interesting, James?
All the people who normally scream about communism don't have any problem with this.
So we've talked about this on the show before, where capitalism and communism lead you right to the same place.
You have no choice.
You're censored and you're ruled by authoritarians and you have no privacy.
So it's kind of amazing.
People who scream about communism, the exact same thing's happening under capitalism, if you can call what this is capitalism.
And they don't seem to have a problem with it.
So hopefully a lot of people stand up and kind of make the same point we're making here, that this in any other situation, this would be called Chinese communist fascist censorship.
But I guess because it's individual billionaires that are doing it, I guess that makes it okay, I guess.
I don't know.
And then they're framing it as this is critical for, you know, the Jewish community.
It's anti-Semitism is running amok on TikTok and this must be stopped.
And it's just, it is concerning because you heard the creator earlier, he was, you know, we're all kind of being forced off of the app because if we continue to post about these kinds of things, you will be taken off.
I was taken off briefly for a week, about a month or two ago, just for talking about things.
And there's no transparency of what's going on.
So you see users, massive users getting taken off of TikTok.
I think you got banned from TikTok as well, Jimmy.
I don't know exactly what you were saying on there, but it is.
I think I've had at least two accounts taken banned from TikTok for sure.
And it was definitely about Israel.
And it's the most censorious of all the platforms right now.
I think things go in waves, right?
So for a while, it was Facebook, Instagram that was being very censorious, Twitter for a period of time.
I think it's kind of ebbs and flows, but certainly right now, TikTok is in that direction where you almost can't say anything at all.
I think I'm going to have to start doing cooking videos on there with like subliminal messages in the background or something like that, because it's very difficult for any kind of information, right?
Even just reporting the news of, hey, so-and-so is buying this app is not allowed on there, which is absolutely, you know, mind-boggling.
It's every bad thing you thought about China, but it's here in the US of eight, home of the free, land of the brave.
Right.
I thought we didn't want to be China.
I thought China was the worst.
And now we're ushering in a surveillance state.
We're doing mass censorship, you know, except we don't have the nice trains and the roads and things like that.
Yeah, wouldn't it be nice if we at least got free healthcare, good roads, high-speed trains, and infrastructure that functions?
At least they have that in China.
We don't get that here.
No, no, we just get we get the crumbling infrastructure plus uh the censorship, but but you um, you know, you get to enjoy a nice uh dairy queen after you allegedly murder somebody.
I don't know.
I'm just kidding.
Russell Dobular here with Keaton Weiss.
Uh, Jimmy is at a meeting with Bill Ackman in the Hamptons.
We don't know what that's about.
We'll have to ask him when he comes back.
We'll see what happens.
We'll see what the segments look like next week.
We'll see what it's about.
Uh, so Destiny tweeted this out: Unreal.
Elon Musk and other conservatives just got me banned from Twitch.
My entire income is gone now.
So much for the party of free speech.
So, this is this is tweeted out yesterday.
We're actually on the air when this came out, and uh, it's kind of crazy.
Uh, and like there's really something wrong with this dude because apparently he was taken off Twitch in 2022.
Um, and I looked at the platforms he's still on, and he's still on there.
Now, he is the last person to be coming out and complaining about being canceled or being attacked because here is just one of his many bangers fully supporting the idea of deplatforming people he doesn't like.
Been disgusting for years.
Conservatives have been disgusting for years, which is why I don't give a fuck about anybody that winds up at any of these rallies and gets shot or whatever the fuck, okay?
Because they had no problem making fun of Paul Pelosi.
The entire world would be better off if these people were permanently removed from these platforms.
Like, there is no downside and only upside to see people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Tim Poole never be allowed to publicly broadcast their opinions ever again.
It's exclusively bad stuff that happens.
Yeah.
Is Destiny an op put out there to discredit the left?
I don't know, but he might as well be.
The left could not have worse representation than Destiny.
So he's been really kind of performing and demonstrating exactly what my partner here has been speaking against on steroids, making fun of Charlie Kirk's wife.
So he has a picture here of the casket that Erica Kirk put out.
She tagged him with crying emojis.
Just absolutely sick.
Yeah.
And if I can just interject one quick thing, he's exactly the kind of person that I'm saying is going to do something.
He's exactly the kind of terminally online sort of social misfit douchebag who would do a thing like that and just not understand.
I really think this guy, from everything I know about this guy, he's so fucked in the head.
I don't really, I honestly don't know if he understands how that kind of like online behavior affects real people.
This is what I mean by the two worlds crossing.
Like he is exactly the terminally online douchebag who just has no awareness, as far as I could tell, because he seems legitimately insane to me and like unhinged, like how trolling a widow looks to the average person who's not a terminally.
Why would you do that?
Like, why do you do that?
That looks good to people.
This is what I mean.
When you spend all your time here, you only respond to the feedback you get from the phone, from the likes and the hearts, and his followers are fucked up, so they give him reinforcement.
But to everybody else in the real world, this looks unhinged because it is unhinged.
Right.
So he tweeted this out, literally mocking the wife at the funeral.
I believe this is at the funeral.
Every day he loved it.
Well, this was her speech.
He loved what he did.
So this is the first out of a total 11 of fake cries.
What was the context?
This was, no, she gave an address from the studio, I believe.
I see.
But this wasn't the funeral.
It's not the funeral.
Nonetheless, you don't do that.
How the fuck can you?
A fucking normal person.
How the fuck can you do that?
Like, how can you do that?
So Destiny went on Piers Morgan where he just was completely deranged and absolutely could not be persuaded that, you know, maybe you should show some compassion for the family.
Maybe this is not the best look.
No.
No.
He wasn't having any of it.
Widow of Charlie Kirk, grieving widow of Charlie Kirk, when she posts an image of her at the coffin side.
Why do you think that constitutes turning down the temperature?
You can't turn down the temperature on your own.
The president of the United States is a very important person.
You inflame the temperature.
You're mocking his widow.
We've had multiple political assassinations over the past year.
What do you mean?
It's turning up the temperature.
Why did you mock his widow online every day?
Why did you mock his widow?
Because she's being used as a political weapon right now for conservatives to continue their fight.
What do you mean wow?
She's literally doing husband just got murdered on email.
Yeah, she's using it to drive up recruitment for the future.
And you can't even condemn the murder.
You won't.
The president can't even tell his side to be able to do it.
You're so deranged about Trump.
You are such a child because you're waiting for Donald Trump to say something.
Let me bring in Jack.
Let me bring in Jack.
I gotta say, there's still no answer to that question, Piers.
You can't say why can't Donald Trump, why can't Donald Trump simply go on TV and say we all need to turn it down?
Like Biden could, like Obama could, like the Clintons could, like, like Kamala could.
Why not?
Why can't you condemn the murder of Charlie Kern?
Unbelievable.
I'm not the president.
Why can't you condemn the murder of Charlie Kirk?
Unbelievable to me.
Why can't you condemn the murder of Charlie Kirk?
Because it wasn't my side that caused it.
It should be.
It actually was your side that caused it.
It was your side.
This guy was raised in a white criticism.
He was a radicalized by the older.
He doesn't radicalize my leftism at all.
You have no proof of that whatsoever.
That's what the investigations are saying.
Was a conservative, just like the people that firebomb Shapiro's house was a conservative, just like all the J Sixers were conservatives, just like the Proud Boys were conservative.
Every single one of these, every single one of these people.
Oh, it's Jack Berzovic, what the author of Unhuman, another person that Charlie's party, good one, dude.
I'll give you one last chance, Destiny, to condemn the murder of Charlie.
You're acting like a non-why can't I hear Donald Trump because you were condemned violence?
All right, you want to condemn it?
Okay, we've all heard you repeatedly refuse to condemn it.
I've heard Donald Trump refuse to condemn it.
Jack Persovic.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
What's incredible is you don't have the basic humanity to condemn it.
You'd rather taunt his widow.
I find that sickening.
Yeah.
And hey, you know, part of the problem with this, with representing the left with a fucking creep like that, is you make Piers Morgan, who's pushing his own propagandistic points there, look good.
You know, a reasonable, not unhinged person could make the point, yes, of course, I condemn the murder.
Just move off that.
The widow, of course, my heart goes out to Charlie Kirk's family.
And you could get into how suspicious this whole thing is, the way they're trying to blame it on their political opponents.
But if you look at the case, there's really no solid evidence for that.
And what evidence there is is very sketchy.
He's not going to make that argument.
He's going to scream and refuse to show any human emotion.
And again, if he's not an op, he might as well be.
I also have to just add too that, you know, Piers Morgan is acting very outraged and offended by what Destiny is saying.
Of course, Piers Morgan brought Destiny on because he knew that's how he would return.
Because he knew he'd behave like that.
This is how the Piers Morgan show operates.
It is pro wrestling.
We know people who've been invited on the show.
We know how they orchestrate their segments.
Hey, we're going to bring this guy on who you can't stand.
So wouldn't it be great if you come on and you can yell at him?
And Piers will look like the sensible guy in the middle, just trying to be reasonable.
But really, he's orchestrating this case match.
That's his business model.
Yeah, you got to say that too.
Like Piers is acting very outrageous.
Like he didn't know Destiny was going to do that.
Like if you actually want to protect the feelings of the family and you actually, Piers Morgan, want to turn down the temperature, you don't invite a fucking person.
You wouldn't bring Destiny on.
Exactly.
So here's Cernovich.
Why hasn't Amazon banned their streamer who has repeatedly called for conservatives to be murdered?
You know, this is on you, Jeff Bezos, right?
Anything happens to one of us and you'll be held personally responsible.
Now I don't feel so bad because I'm assuming Cernovich is more online than I am.
And he doesn't seem to realize either that he was already banned from Twitch.
So here is Colin Rugg.
Elon Musk calls for streamer Destiny to be thrown in prison for inciting murder following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
All right.
So this is what he's referring to here.
Statistics.
Not exactly like I need.
You need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
The issue is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's like memes.
It's just memes to everybody, I guess.
I don't know, bro.
I don't know.
I don't care.
I'm playing video games.
Okay.
I'm done today.
I don't give a fuck.
Tell me this is not exactly the person I'm talking about.
Person who could say a thing as insane as that, that people should be afraid to go to events and be like, Yeah, it's just memes.
I don't know, I'm playing video games.
This is what I mean.
He is the perfect encapsulation of what I'm talking about: of people who are so online that they don't are not able to process in real time the maniacal insanity of what they're saying.
And this is what I'm talking about in the wake of this event: people don't be like him, don't be like him.
It's very simple, simple.
Free advice.
Okay, all right.
So, this is what Elon said: I don't think this jackass should be banned, but Amazon should stop paying him to incite the murder.
Now, Elon is pretty terminally online.
How does nobody know that this guy's not on Twitch?
I mean, for me, it's reasonable.
I would not know I don't hang out in these spaces, but apparently, he didn't know either.
But Amazon should stop paying him to incite murder.
That's insane.
Separately, incitement to murder and domestic terrorism is a felony crime.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
This, you know, leave these things to your legal team, Elon.
For that, he should go to prison.
He can resume streaming when he has served his term.
Okay, so yeah, I mean, he's completely wrong on the legal points, and he doesn't he recognizes the hypocrisy.
So he said, Well, I don't, I don't want to cancel anybody, but just send him to prison, right?
Now, this is the funny thing.
This is the funny thing in the loose sense of the word funny, like tragic.
Um, so you may have heard about this.
Um, IDF soldiers, uh, here you can see, first thing the IDF, after terrorizing families out of their homes in Gaza, is plunder for possessions to steal, then dress in the women's clothes they plunder and make TikTok videos mocking the victims.
Now, uh, this is not a joke, they really do this.
There are a lot of pictures and videos of them mocking their victims by dressing up in women's clothes.
This is actually one of these videos.
These are the jokes, people.
So, Destiny went and addressed a group of new recruits about to be deployed into the war zone.
And this is what he told them about this kind of behavior.
Israel has unique issues.
Here's the one piece of advice I'll give you.
Okay, if you're joining the IDF, okay?
Leave your fucking cell phone at home and stop taking stupid fucking videos, okay?
Because everybody's fucking you with them, okay?
And if you see, if you see a soldier, okay, going through a fucking drawer, and listen, if you want to fucking wear a dress and you think it's funny, just don't fucking take a fucking video picture of it, okay?
Jesus.
Um, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, so hello, people.
Okay, now I'm just gonna point out, aside from how sick Destiny is, to say, Hey, you think that's funny?
Just don't take a video.
What, how sick a society do you have to have that they thought that was funny and clapped?
Yeah, yeah, for that.
Like, what does that say?
You're talking about 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds who thought that was funny.
Wow.
So, Elon loves to jump out in front of the parade and insert himself into these conversations and pretend to be some kind of brave speech warrior.
Never saw him say shit about that, much less all of these conservatives and all of these institutions who are now screaming about destiny.
Rightfully so.
You know, I mean, we don't believe in deplatforming.
We defended Alex Jones.
We always knew when they announced they were going to pull him off YouTube that that was going to be the beginning of a censorship regime that was going to go far beyond Alex Jones.
And here we are.
We don't support that.
But yeah, is he inviting the kind of backlash he's getting?
Sure.
How sick a world is it?
And how compromised are many of these people who are speaking out about this that they didn't speak out about that?
Well, I'll give you one example of why Elon might not have said anything about that.
Ah!
They made him do the walk of shame.
Ah, there's...
There's Shapiro there.
There's eyebrows there.
Alors, si Elon Musk s'est rendu sur le site du camp d'Auschwitz, c'est aussi pour évoquer ce problème de l'antisémitisme.
The whole thing.
So when Elon Musk wants to stand up, like he's this big man defending speech, remember, he's full of shit.
He's completely compromised himself.
He's completely hypocritical, like most people who represent themselves in that space.
They will not, they have a double standard when it comes to this issue, not all.
And increasingly, especially in the wake of what happened to Charlie Kirk and a lot of the events surrounding his final days, like the Hamptons meeting with Bill Ackman, that people are speaking out about.
Increasingly, the voices in that space, like Candace Owens, like Tucker, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, are starting to really gain the upper hand over these compromised people.
But when you see somebody like Elon speaking out about that, but he won't speak out about this, well, you know, that's part of why, man.
The advertisers started pulling out of X. Personally, I don't really think that's what did it.
Given some of what we know about Israel, blackmail and assassination is basically their tactic.
We don't know what they threatened him with.
If you look at how Elon Musk conducts himself, I don't think it was the money.
I don't think it was the money.
I think it was something else, but they definitely got to that guy.
So when you see them jumping up and down about this, which again, they're right, but he said something I would argue was more heinous than what he's saying about Charlie Kirk, as heinous as that is.
And none of these people said a thing about it.
Yeah, in a sane society, you know, if you're going to cancel somebody for something, you'd think it would be for that, which he obviously said well in advance of these Charlie Kirk comments.
Now, I'm not sure.
I wasn't really clear on the timeline.
The clip that we showed where he's like, they should be afraid.
Was that in 2022?
Was that what got him banned back then?
Or was it some other thing?
The first one, Malcolm found.
So I'm actually not sure.
Not exactly clear on the timeline there.
But yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I mean, look, it looks like he's a little younger there.
Yeah, it does look like he is a bit younger there.
So that could have been from a while back.
But, you know, he says there, well, the temperature is not going to cool down because Donald Trump will not make the temperature cool down.
Look, people in power have an agenda.
Their ideology informs that agenda.
And if their agenda is censorship, then they're going to pursue censorship.
But their ability to execute the agenda is, I would argue, dependent on circumstance.
The example I used earlier this week is what if Twitter were around on 9-11 and day after 9-11, you had 100,000 people give their hot takes on 9-11, their conspiracy theories, their opinions about this and that.
I won't even articulate what those opinions may or may not have been so that they can clip this for YouTube.
But imagine you had a social media app like that on 9-11.
The next day, John Ashcroft would have, forget about the Patriot Act.
That would have been martial law.
That would have been the end of the First Amendment as we know it, because everybody's rawest emotions and rawest takes would have been available to the Attorney General on a spreadsheet.
And they would have said, look at all of these sleeper cells in America.
We have to shut this down for the safety of the American people so that this does not happen again.
So the point is not that people should not exercise their First Amendment rights, but I do think it is important to understand the cataclysmic nature of this moment.
Jimmy Kimmel just got pulled.
This is not a simple tit for tat kind of thing.
This is a very, very large event with very severe implications.
And you're dealing with people who, you know, I think had an agenda beforehand, combined with the fact that they are, and I made this point, they are sincerely hurt, saddened, and angered by this event, which they have a right to be, right?
That's the kernel of truth here, is that there is an emotional severity to this event.
A lot of these people just had their friend murdered.
And so they're going to act on it.
And I think if we don't want to make this situation worse, it falls to people who have the privilege of some distance from the thing itself to just be our best selves and appeal to the best in what is left of this country and hope that that's enough to pull through.
To me, that's the only play at this moment.
To me, what he's doing here, especially the stuff with the widow, I mean, you just have to be.
I mean, he's a really sick motherfucker.
I don't know why he gets called on to do these debates.
And like he's not.
Yeah, man, there are a lot of creeps in the space, but that cat is above and beyond.
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