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Sept. 17, 2025 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Tucker Confronts JD Vance TO HIS FACE Over Charlie Kirk’s Death!

Tucker Carlson recently confronted JD Vance about Benjamin Netanyahu attemps to appropriate Charlie Kirk’s legacy after his death, calling it “disgusting” and warning against foreign leaders exploiting such tragedies for political gain. Carlson emphasized Kirk’s genuine affection for Israel while opposing endless regime-change wars, showing how he could bridge divides within the conservative movement. Guest hosts Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss of the Due Dissidence show discuss the intense pressure Kirk faced from donors, particularly regarding Israel, with reports of him rejecting money tied to pro-Israel demands. They argue that Kirk’s growing political infrastructure and potential future influence made the circumstances of his death appear increasingly suspicious, fueling debates within the conservative movement about Israel’s role and influence. Plus segments on a whistleblower inside the Christian Nationalist movement exposing Israel’s control over leading U.S. Christian leaders and Trump’s push to create his own personal paramilitary force. Also featuring Misty Winston and Mike MacRae. And a phone call from Speaker of the House Mike Johnson!

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Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
This is Speaker Mike Johnson calling.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you.
Who is this?
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
Mike is spelled M-I-K.
Speaker, Mike Johnson, nice to hear from you.
Why are you calling the Jimmy Door show today?
Well, President Trump gave me this number and told me to call, so that's what I'm doing.
So he just tells you to do things and you do them?
Oh, oh, no, it's not like that.
I just like to help.
I've always been a helper.
Yeah.
Whatever needs to be done around the House or the church or Congress for America and Americans.
So I'm calling you.
I see.
And what are you calling about?
Well, the president wanted me to reach out to various media outlets to just gently remind them that this Epstein file thing is a hoax, a Democrat hoax, as the president said.
And it would be irresponsible to keep discussing it.
It would serve no purpose other than to just rile people up at a time when there's so much work to be done in other arenas.
So what do you mean a hoax?
The idea that Jeffrey Epstein was a wealthy SEX trafficker who serviced the elite, including politicians?
That's a hoax?
That didn't happen?
I mean, come on, it just...
Go on.
The president said, the president told me, look, okay, let's be the grown-ups in the room for a moment.
The Epstein file, this so-called birthday book, it's a nothing burger.
There's no there there.
What are you?
Bill Barr all of a sudden?
And how is this all nothing?
Jimmy, you know, well, let's put on our big boy pants, okay?
Yeah, I'm already wearing mine and so attired.
I will tell you, Mr. Speaker, that President Trump's birthday letter to Mr. Epstein, extremely disturbing.
Oh, that's not real.
It's not.
It's not real.
That's not President Trump's signature.
No, that's not his signature.
Donald Trump has one of the most unique and recognizable signatures in a world.
He's constantly showing it to the TV cameras like a proud toddler.
We all know it.
How can he say that it's not his signature when it obviously is?
Because the president said it isn't his signature, and that's good enough for me.
That's good enough for you?
Absolutely.
Now, moving on to more mature adult topics, grown-up stuff.
Not a chance, pal.
I'm going to assume that you know that is Donald Trump's actual letter to Epstein, and that you're being forced into pretending it's not.
Does the content bother you?
Does the suggestive language implying their shared love of teenaged girls?
Oh, oh, no.
No, this.
Oh, no.
The figure.
How about the figure of the nude woman surrounding the text?
Our father, who art in heaven, how will be thy name?
How Donald Trump used his signature to simulate a woman's pubic hair.
How about that?
Oh, God, in heaven, please, sir, stop mentioning such forbidden vulgarities.
I want you to think about that every time he signs something.
Why are you doing this to me?
It's not real.
None of it is real.
And I know that because Donald Trump said so.
Now let's move on from the kiddie table to the grown-up table.
Oh, but now I can't because I've soiled myself.
I'm sorry.
What?
Nothing.
Look, Donald Trump, our president, has nothing to do with this Jeffrey Epstein situation or whatever you want to call it.
Just a few days ago, you claimed Donald Trump had been an FBI informant on the Epstein case.
And as I stated subsequently, I misspoke when I said that.
I simply said the wrong words.
Said the wrong words.
Yes, as I publicly said, simply said the wrong words.
And he was not, in fact, an FBI informant.
Those were the words I should have said.
But the words I said were he was an FBI informant.
Just wrong words.
That's all.
I see.
Common mistake.
Oh, very much so.
Yes.
So let's be the big boys and just agree to leave the president out of any discussion of Jeffrey Epstein or any other scandal for that matter, just to be really grown up and tall.
You're really just a pathetic, obsequious little toady, aren't you?
I don't know.
Just a little goddamn yes man.
Yes.
Yes, sir.
You're saying yes, sir, to me?
Yes, sir.
Oh, I get it.
Anyone who pushes you around in an alpha male way wins your subservience.
Guilty as charged.
Gross.
I don't want you as my yes man.
Go grovel to President Trump.
Does this mean I don't get to lick your shoes, sir?
Goodbye.
Oh.
Jeez.
Mike Johnson.
So this is a story that just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
So the New York Post had the exclusive on this a couple of days ago.
Charlie Kirk and Rabbi Pal talked hours before his death.
He was in a combative mood.
Okay, so you won't find a more pro-Israel rag than the New York Post, and even they cannot resist the sort of clickbait headline because obviously combative has a sort of negative connotation.
But as you'll see as the article goes on, combative meaning Charlie Kirk was ready to go out and defend Israel at this talk amid tensions in the background, of course, as have been reported pretty extensively by multiple people, most recently Candace Owens, whose episode just dropped.
They just saw a tweet come across, which corroborates something later in the story.
Just a little teaser for you all.
Charlie Kirk was in high spirits and in a combative mood just before kicking off his American comeback tour at Utah Valley University, said a rabbi friend who spoke to him for an hour the night before his death.
Rabbi Pesach Walicki, an American-born cleric who lives in Israel, met with Kirk via Zoom on Tuesday night.
He was excited to get back out on the campus tour, said Willicki, who said he often spoke to Kirk before public appearances to advise him on how to defend Israel effectively.
Hours before the firebrand was assassinated in Utah, the two met online to prepare for the, quote, smears against Israel he would inevitably face during his tour of college campuses.
He was working out talking points, playing the role of devil's advocate, pushing us on these issues, trying to sharpen the iron, said Willicki, who specializes in Jewish-Christian relations.
He was in a combative mood, recalled the rabbi, which is good.
He was preparing for debates and attacks.
Charlie stood alone to a great extent in that whole Gen Z conservative world as far as being pro-Israel, the rabbi said.
And his life would have been a whole lot easier if he wasn't.
Okay, I'm not going to say anything.
There were prominent people actively working to get him to drop his support for Israel on a daily basis, and he resisted.
So here is from Owen Schroyer, the Israeli rabbi, pardon me, who met with Charlie Kirk just before his assassination speaks about the pressure Kirk was under to stay positive on Israel and not platform any voices against Israel at his events.
Criticisms for the state of Israel.
He was very supportive and really loved the state of Israel and the Jewish people, but he also had his criticisms.
And it really hurt him when the Jewish community came down on him for platforming certain speakers at his last conference who were anti-Israel and even slid into anti-Semitism.
And while I was not happy that Charlie had given the stage to people like Tucker Carlson who were spewing venom about the Jewish state, I understood where Charlie was coming from.
Charlie was a big believer in the open marketplace of ideas, in allowing all opinions to be heard, letting the best opinions win.
That's why he built his career on those famous debates, going to college campuses to engage in honest dialogue, letting every opinion have its moment and letting people decide what is true.
And therefore, he really believed to a fault, I believe, in allowing every single voice to be heard.
Now, again, was I happy?
Believe to a fault, to a fault in allowing every single voice to be heard.
Happy that he was platforming people who were spewing every single voice to be heard.
Now, again, was I happy that he was platforming people who were spewing anti-Israel and anti-Semitic messages?
Of course not.
But when so many people in the Jewish community, in the pro-Israel community, were criticizing Charlie so harshly for platforming these problematic voices, he was very hurt.
And he was hurt because what many people don't realize is that Charlie spent a lot of his time defending Israel, both publicly at the college campus events that he was so famous for.
Many people don't realize that upwards of 40 or 50% of all of the questions Charlie would receive, the challenges that he would get at these campus events from students were attacking Israel and attacking Charlie for being so pro-Israel.
And also privately, there were many other prominent people in the America First Movement who would privately speak to Charlie and message him, trying to get him to drop his support for Israel.
So he was out there defending Israel on a regular basis, even with all his criticisms.
It really hurt him when there was this harsh criticism calling him all kinds of names because he was willing to platform voices the pro-Israel community or the Jewish community were uncomfortable with.
Wow.
That's quite the video.
To be clear, I'm not trying to implicate this man in anything.
I'm just saying that he is explaining the pressure that Charlie Kirk was under.
Obviously, being pulled in two different directions explains how it was weighing on him, explains how this guy here doesn't like that he had such anti-Israel firebrands like Tucker Carlson at Turning Points USA.
Speaking of Tucker Carlson, this video just came across the wire today.
So today, J.D. Vance sat in the host chair for a Charlie Kirk show, and they had on, you know, rotating sort of guests who knew Charlie well, and Tucker is obviously one of them.
And here, Tucker Carlson went on to say, it did worry me.
Some of the people who send money to Turning Point, his donors, were very high on him, so tough on him that I could feel it.
I talked to him a lot in the last few months, and he was under enormous pressure.
He never bent.
Tucker also in this clip calls out, not explicitly by name, but everybody knows who he's talking about, Bibi Netanyahu for trying to claim Charlie Kirk's legacy for himself in the immediate aftermath of his death.
You saw Netanyahu tweet repeatedly in the minutes both leading up to and then after the confirmation that he had passed.
And so here's Tucker calling out Bibi to the vice president's face.
I have to say, this was pretty ballsy.
Tucker strikes me as a guy who's pretty aware of the conversations that are going on in the space.
And he does not exactly shy away from what a lot of people are thinking.
Let's take a look.
Good faith, you're on his team.
That is exactly right.
And good faith is the measure.
And I have to say, I think now is exactly the wrong time to appropriate the memory of someone and the emotion that comes with that, the really intense emotion that all of us feel at his murder and use it for your own parochial ends.
Like he stood for this, you know.
And I think the reason that Charlie was able to bridge the gap, particularly in foreign policy, is because he had, for example, genuine affection for Israel, which he expressed to me in private many, many times.
Like, I love Israel.
I don't think we should have another forever war regime change war against Iran.
And I think that made complete sense to me.
I sort of agree with that, actually.
And so it allowed both sides to talk to him because they felt like this person doesn't hate me.
It doesn't need to get existential.
It's not about disliking me or some weird bigotry.
But I don't think it's helpful for people to jump in, particularly foreign heads of state, to say, this is what, you know, he lived for my cause or whatever.
That's disgusting, actually.
Don't do that.
That turns.
Okay, so that is a clear and unmistakable dig at Netanyahu.
Oh, yeah.
And he's talking to the vice president here.
And he doesn't really let up.
Everybody off.
You don't help your own cause by doing that.
And it's also literally untrue.
So I just hope that we can continue in, I'm not exaggerating, the spirit that he operated in, which is one of love for other people, including people we disagree with, and don't make it, you know, as small bore as that.
That doesn't help.
Yeah, so one of the issues, Tucker, and I agree with you, that he would express disagreements with the administration on.
There are two that jump out, is one, you know, Charlie was a hard liner on immigration.
He wanted us to control our borders as much as possible.
He wanted us to ramp up the deportations.
I remember having conversations with Charlie.
Pressure.
Okay, I just, that flash was, I skipped ahead.
They go on about immigration for about a minute, which is just not relevant to this clip.
So for time purposes, we skipped ahead to where he now talks about the 12-day war between Israel and Iran.
As a friend, pressure as somebody who cares deeply about the issue.
And that's true also.
I know we have about 90 seconds left, but that's true about foreign policy.
Like, I remember Charlie calling me and saying, I'm really worried.
And this is back in the summer when the Iran strikes were sort of first being contemplated.
He said, I'm really worried this is going to become another regime change war in the Middle East that we get trapped in.
And I said, Charlie, first of all, like have some, have some faith here.
The president of the United States is not a believer in perpetual war.
He knows the mistakes of Iraq and Afghanistan.
He doesn't want to repeat them.
But Charlie was very clear that he could support Israel.
And by the way, he did eventually support the strikes on the nuclear facility while simultaneously saying, no more.
This can't become a bigger thing.
This can't become a broader thing.
And again, I think he modeled a really good way of applying pressure, of disagreeing when you do disagree, but also recognizing that so long as you're operating in good faith, we're all part of the team.
And that's something I'm going to try to take from Charlie's legacy is not that we're always right, not that we can't take criticism, but that we all should try to work together.
It didn't.
All right.
Now, Tucker does not end there.
He goes on.
Worry me, because I think your description is perfect.
He's one of the very few who took that message and stood by it.
I mean, right to the very end.
This cannot get bigger.
We don't want another regime change war.
But man, some of the people who send money to Turning Point, his donors, were very tough on him.
So tough on him that I could feel it.
You know, I talked to him a lot in the last few months, and he was under enormous pressure.
He never bent.
He never became.
He kept his integrity to the very end.
To the very end.
And I just think it's important to say that because it's true.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Now, once again, you know, it's just hard to imagine that Tucker is not aware of the conversations that are taking place right now about people and their suspicions, I think well-founded suspicions and skepticism about what we're being told about this event.
To go there the first time and call out Netanyahu for trying to basically claim Charlie Kirk's legacy for himself, more or less, which is what he said.
Not in as many words, but that was the thrust of what he was saying.
And then to go back and make the point again, right to Vance's face, which I think I got to give it up to Tucker.
It's a fairly ballsy thing to say right to the vice president's face.
Hey, you know, I know he was under a lot of pressure from a lot of people who were giving him money.
And that's, you know, Tucker saying it, but we've seen that reported.
Multiple outlets, Max Blumenthal and Anya Parenpil, are friends at the Grey Zone.
They just put out a piece saying exactly that.
That he was offered a bunch of money and turned down a bunch of money.
We just heard the rabbi say what pressure he was under.
And, you know, Russ, you know, got into this in a previous segment, but I do think it is important to note when we're talking about Charlie Kirk, we're not just talking about another podcaster or another influencer.
He was obviously very famous and very influential as a media person.
But beyond being a media person, Charlie Kirk had built out a legitimate and formidable political infrastructure.
I mean, I recall, you know, reading the tweets the day he died and a couple of days after about so many people, when they recalled having first met Charlie Kirk, remember thinking to themselves, this kid is going to be head of the RNC one day.
This kid is going to be president one day.
And, you know, this kind of validates that because if you look here, student movement for freedom on over 3,500 campuses, you know, when Charlie Kirk is old enough to perhaps run for president, he was, of course, only 31.
All of these hubs become campaign machines.
I mean, that right there is a hell of a ground game.
And he was just getting started.
So it is really, I don't think, possible to overstate the influence that he had in the moment and the amount of potential influence he would accrue in the coming years.
And so when there's that kind of pressure being applied to someone with this influence and this machinery, you know, it's one thing to be a star.
It's another thing to have a machine built out.
You know, politics is about blocking and tackling at the end of the day.
And they did plenty of that.
I mean, look at that ground game.
That's what makes this very suspicious to me: is that this guy really was.
I mean, you could really make a very strong case, in my opinion, that he was the future of the conservative movement.
This is not just some podcaster who does good numbers on the charts.
This was much, much bigger than that.
He really, I think, transcended that, which is why, yeah, like this just stinks.
I'm sorry.
Like, we can't, we can't make any accusations, but it stinks.
Max Blumenthal today With an article, billionaire Bill Ackman convened stormy Israel intervention with Charlie Kirk.
Sources say that just came out right before we went on the air.
So I don't have that article to read.
And then since we went on the air, Candace Owens has apparently corroborated this reporting.
She is apparently saying that, yes, he had a contentious meeting with Bill Ackman over the summer about Israel.
So this just looks horrible.
And it looks worse and worse with everything we learn.
I mean, that's all we can say for now, but it looks really bad.
It looks really, really bad.
Yeah, if you look at the conversation around this, it's pretty revealing.
Because the Libs became a party of hall monitors and Tracy Flicks, the character from election, they don't get into the kinds of systemic questioning of narratives that a lot of people who identify as conservative or right-wing will.
They only want to litigate whether he was Republican or not.
That is all they want to talk about.
This kind of talk about the pressure he was under from the Israel lobby, even though the preponderance of pro-Palestine activists align with the Democratic Party, they won't go there, man.
It's too much of a challenge to the entire institutional infrastructure, the whole media.
Like they just won't.
Even now, even now, even with this particular thing where you would think they don't really have a dog in that fight to hold up media institutions, it's the types of people who ideologically end up in that lane are just the least interesting, most melbatoist, most conformist, least imaginative people in society.
It's amazing, man.
Like I haven't seen anyone on that side talking about that.
As we cover the debate around who's responsible and what this means, it's entirely a conservative, unconservative conversation.
It's all like the meat of this conversation is almost entirely there.
And you do have people like Matt Walsh or Benny in the closet who want to do the work of seizing this opportunity to drum up an enormous assault on civil liberties and to get people to think they like that.
But again, that's within the conservative world that you're really having this debate.
I do think anyone that you see right now who's screaming about this is left trans people ideology who's screaming that you know right now if that's what they're pushing,
they're bought or they are accelerationist and see an opportunity here to collapse the state in order to build it into what they believe the ideal state would be.
They're taking advantage of the emotions of the moment to, they want civil war because civil war collapses the state.
And if the state collapses, then they can build their vision of the new utopia.
Well, I would just say regarding like, you know, the whole, you know, left on right, right on left, you know, especially as it pertains to Israel, you know, in a, I mean, not in a way.
I think I could say this definitively.
The anti-Israel right at this point is, I think, a much bigger threat to the status quo than the anti-Israel left, partly because the right has power and the left doesn't.
And also because the left, even as defined, you know, narrowly within the system as the Democratic Party.
I mean, if you look at a poll, if you look at a poll of Democratic voters, they are now overwhelmingly pro-Palestine.
Whereas the Republican Party is still majority pro-Israel.
I forget what the exact split is.
It's not as big as it was a few years ago, but it's still true that the Republican constituency is largely pro-Israel.
You know, that makes the dissenters in the Republican Party, I think, a bigger threat to the status quo now than the pro-Palestine left.
Because first of all, look, if we're talking about the influence that Israel exerts on the political process, both legal and otherwise, shall we say, it's going to be very hard for a Democrat to win the presidency because look at that needle.
They're going to have to thread.
Their base is almost entirely pro-Palestine.
They take a pro-Palestine stance.
Are they allowed to win?
I mean, do we think they're allowed to win?
So that means you're so the Democrats have a major, major problem there in terms of a path to the White House, which once again gives the anti-Israel right potentially a tremendous amount of influence.
It's true.
Now, Charlie Kirk was not there yet.
I don't even know if he was close to there yet, but the more we find out about the last six months of his life, the more we have reason to believe he may have been on his way.
And that's what makes this really stink.
Well, the way that they describe what was happening with him behind the scenes, the more of this is coming out, it really reminds me of that John Keriaku interview that we played where he describes how people who start out being friendly to Israel end up hating Israel because of the way it treats even its friends.
Right.
Yep.
And just to be clear before we end the clip, by stink, I mean, that's what makes it suspicious.
It's obviously terrible that he was killed either way.
That's not what I mean.
It's terrible that he was killed either way.
But by stink, I mean, yeah, that makes this a suspicious case.
Yep.
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So this is from Brandt Burlson.
And he wrote an article, and it's titled, I helped Israel Propagandize American Christians.
And yes, it's as juicy as you think that it is.
So Sun Tzu wrote, all warfare is based on deception.
You have heard many stories about the Israeli government deceiving and manipulating U.S. officials, steering our country towards funding and even fighting their wars.
Let me tell you one more.
Israel exploits the religious beliefs of American Christians, fostering a certain flavor of fanaticism to empower a doomsday cult in a twisted effort to serve the interests of this increasingly genocidal apartheid state.
I know this because I was a central useful idiot in this psyop.
I love a good whistleblower.
As the, quote, strategic outreach director of the consulate general of Israel to the southwest United States, I spent the last eight and a half years betraying my country on behalf of the Israeli government, using theology as a geopolitical tool and simultaneously lost my faith in God.
Premillennialism, I can't say that word for some reason, is the Christian end times belief that all true believers will be raptured away to heaven, ushering in a seven-year tribulation period under the reign of the Antichrist, where those left behind will endure unspeakable suffering before the day of judgment and an eternity trapped in hell.
Since Israel, and I love the air quotes there, plays a central role in this apocalyptic fantasy.
Adherents of this view are required to foster unconditional support for the contemporary Israeli government, which they view as a manifestation of biblical Israel.
These adherents are in a very real sense rooting for Armageddon.
Beliefs can be very powerful, and it doesn't take a genius to grasp how this belief is a national security vulnerability of biblical proportions.
One that has captured the mind of Senator Ted Cruz, U.S. Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, and countless others in our government.
And we covered, I'm sure you guys remember the Ted Cruz Tucker Carlson interview where he talked about this.
Jimmy and I covered it here on this show.
That was some wild stuff.
Excuse me.
The evidence for this capture is overwhelming and undeniable.
Ambassador Huckabee has placed a great deal of his political career in the service of this belief system and has made no secret of his views.
He has said, quote, I think Israel has title D to Judea and Samaria.
There is no such thing as an occupation, end quote.
He is notice the use of the biblical term, quote, Judea and Samaria rather than West Bank.
Huckabee had suggested that you can't understand the geopolitical situation of the Middle East without understanding the story of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Recently, President Donald Trump tweeted a personal text from Huckabee, a text that Pastor Franklin Graham retweeted, suggesting that God spared Donald Trump's life in Butler, Pennsylvania, because he has a special purpose for the president as some sort of American savior figure.
It would seem this cult of personality surrounding Trump has become a full-fledged cult.
I personally met Ambassador Huckabee at a very impressive pro-Israel event he spoke at, which I attended for networking purposes as a function of my former job.
This event was organized by Michael Evans, a former messianic Jew, turned evangelical Christian.
Evans is a longtime personal friend of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and leads both the Jerusalem prayer team and the Friends of Zion Museum in Israel.
Before he was kicked off Facebook, the Jerusalem prayer team had 77 million followers.
He is one of the least recognized and most influential individuals in the Christian Zionist movement.
Ambassador Huckabee has even referenced Genesis 12, 3 in his official remarking, quote, I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you, I will curse.
I want to be on the blessing side, not the cursed side, end quote.
This is the same verse that Senator Cruz attempting to cite a book that is allegedly fundamental to his vision of the world, couldn't quite remember when he was being dogwalked in an interview with Tucker Carlson, and he really got dog locked.
That was so good.
This is the filter Americans, America's foreign policy is being distorted through.
Over the course of my service to the Israeli government, I utilized this verse countless times, incorporating it into all sorts of strategic communications and remarks that the council general would deliver or that I would deliver on behalf of the council at dozens of events.
These events in Texas, New Mexico, Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Kansas rage from what were range from what were essentially pep rallies for Israel at megachurches and speaking at the Sunday service to Holocaust remembrance events to appearances on Christian television networks like Daystar and Victory Channel to pastors luncheons where leaders representing dozens of congregations would be in attendance to hear briefings from Israeli diplomats.
Among the headliners was former Israeli ambassador to the United States and current minister of strategic affairs, Ron Dermer, who would explain why congregation leaders should support Israel and get their flock to support Israel by voting in elected officials who will unquestioningly do the bidding of the Israeli government.
I even planned a delegation of pastors to visit Israel and specifically identified prominent leaders who had not visited the country before to go on a government-approved holy propaganda tour.
One of these pastors sits on the board of the large Christian organization Promise Keepers and leads the Houston Mayor's Ministerial Advisory Board.
Several occupy prominent positions in the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in America whose leadership was recently embroiled in the systemized cover-up of sexual abuse.
Over my time at the consulate, we would directly engage with no fewer than four leaders who were accused of sexually abusing women or minors.
Not surprising.
Two of these cases we were aware of before reaching out, and this number would actually be higher had I not lied to the Council General by saying I had reached out to some people they wanted me to when I never did.
The U.S. Pastors Council and the Consulate's support of the far-right Holy Land Redemption Fund redeeming land in the West Bank might be the most troubling thing that we were involved in.
This group led by Modi Isaac acquires land in the West Bank under dubious circumstances to move more Israeli settlers in and change, quote, the facts on the ground.
When met with Isaac, we met with Isaac at the consulate, helped to coordinate meetings between him and prominent pastors, and even did an online event with the group.
One pastor I helped to connect to this fanatical settler project in the West Bank was the elected, was elected to the city council of Houston.
Another was Kenneth Copeland.
You guys know Kenneth Copeland, I'm sure.
You might remember him as the pastor who unsuccessfully beseeched God to give the power to literally blow COVID away.
Copeland is worth an estimated 300 million at least, making him likely the richest pastor in the world.
Modi Isaac told me that Kenneth Copeland has been a great donor to the Holy Land Redemption Foundation since we introduced him.
And just quickly, I'm going to break into this article because we have a kind of hilarious video.
It's a little funny and a little terrifying of Kenneth Copeland.
And he has what I call Manson lamps, which are crazy eyes.
And this is a very telling video of Kenneth Copeland.
So here we go.
And I prayed about it and I thought, I'm not missing that dedication in Jerusalem without the airplane that we have that I bought from Tyler Perry.
And I didn't pay any word.
Tyler's one of the greatest guys.
He made it.
He made that airplane so cheap for me, I couldn't help but buy it.
Well, my question then, well, okay, all right, but I want to get to the demons because people are very concerned about that comment.
Give me a chance, Harry Inside Edition.
I love your eyes.
And here's what happened.
We flew in 21 days, 70 hours, 40,000 miles, touched five continents, and preached face to face personally with 125,000
Do you ever, do you ever use your private jets to go visit your vacation homes for example?
Yes, I do.
Okay.
Again, getting back to the comment, you said that you don't like to fly commercial because you don't want to get into a tube with a bunch of demons.
Do you really believe that human beings are demons?
No, I do not.
And don't you ever say I did.
We wrestle not with flesh and blood, but principalities and powers.
Can you explain what you meant by that term then?
Just explain, because it's really simple.
You said you didn't want to get into a tube with a bunch of demons.
What did you mean?
Well, let me ask you.
So there he is, justifying his use of a private jet that he bought with funds from members of his church because he doesn't want to fly with demons.
So there you go.
There's that.
Okay, so where is my there we go?
So that's Kenneth Copeland.
I just wanted to let you guys know who that is.
So while there are many Israeli partners of these Christian Zionists who are fanatic themselves, consider defense ministers Israel Katz's recent post about bringing a plague of the firstborn.
Many Israeli partners engaged in this in a completely cynical manner.
Larry Hutch, pastor of New Beginnings Church in DFW, Dallas Fort Worth, is a rock star in the Christian Zionist movement.
He once remarked, quote, if we lose Jerusalem, what I believe with all of my heart, if we lose Jerusalem, we will delay the coming of the Messiah.
That's why the enemy in the spiritual world, Satan, wants to get rid of Jerusalem, because whether you think he's coming for the first time or the second time, what everybody knows is he's coming to Jerusalem, end quote.
Early on in my time in the consulate, I was traveling with Council Daniel Agronov to one of those aforementioned pep rallies for Israel at New Beginnings Church that was organized in partnership with the Israeli Allies Foundation, a pro-Israel DC-based lobbying outfit, of which there are many.
Council Agronov, Pastor Hutch, and Senator Cruz were all scheduled to speak.
When writing in the car on the way to the church, I explained the pre-millennial disposition.
I cannot say that word, you guys.
It's like not even working in my mouth.
Dispensationalism theology that underpins much evangelical support for Israel to Council Agronov.
He responded, quote, these people give me the fucking creeps.
What happens when they go back to thinking their God doesn't like us again, end quote?
This was about an hour before he would take the stage and say how grateful he was for Christian support while explaining, quote, Israel prays for peace.
Taken from the remarks I wrote, the last I heard, Daniel Agronov is still an Israeli diplomat.
The largest of these pep rallies for Israel is the annual, quote, Night to Honor Israel, hosted by the founder of Christians United for Israel, Pastor John Hagee of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio.
The council general would speak at this event every year, usually delivering marks that I wrote.
Here is an example.
I can already hear the false charges of anti-Semitism.
And he links there, by the way, if you want to go and check that out.
He links to quotes that he had written from a speech for that.
He says, I can already hear the false charges of anti-Semitism coming my way.
Consider Muhammad Ibrahim.
He is an American 16-year-old who has spent over six months in an Israeli dungeon in the West Bank, unable to speak with his family because he allegedly threw rocks in an empty street.
It has been reported that he has lost 25 pounds and developed scabies.
His cousin was beaten to death by Israeli settlers.
They were supposed to spend the summer working in an ice cream shop in Florida.
But just a few weeks ago, Tom Alexandrovich, an Israeli government official, was rounded up in a sting operation for soliciting sex from a minor.
He was released on bail and fled back to Israel.
We covered that here.
The juxtaposition on display is as jaw-dropping as it is shameful.
Israeli officials doing government work come here looking to rape American children in some disgusting act of sex tourism and are released.
Meanwhile, American children rot in Israeli prisons with no meaningful due process.
This goes on with indifference from your government as they funnel more and more of your money to God's chosen government.
Don't let anyone ever tell you that you are a bigot for being bothered by the state of affairs and don't let anyone ever tell you that this government speaks for all American Jews or even all Israeli Jews for that matter.
I'm not saying that you need to become an atheist like me, though I would encourage it.
I am saying that if an entity can hijack your faith, they can use it to hijack your government.
You would be wise to be on your guard.
And yeah, I think we can all agree with that.
And I just thought that that was a really interesting peek behind the curtain.
I think we all know that Israel, not just with Christians in this country, Israel has been doing a very good job over the course of, I mean, really since their inception of controlling the narrative, especially in the West, of control.
I mean, people are going to come for me because, oh, you're saying Jews can true the media, control the media.
Well, I mean, Zionists do, or they did, at least mainstream press.
That has, I mean, that's really just reality.
And that has fallen away now, thanks to social media.
But I just thought that this was an interesting peek behind the curtain into how they operate and the way that they position themselves in certain groups.
And, you know, it's just very slimy.
And the way that they are manipulating people and using faith, which I am also an atheist, but using faith in this way, and as we mentioned earlier, using like Judaism as a shield, it's so cynical and gross to me that I just think it's it needs to be called out more often the way that they are using this against people.
So definitely go check out that article again at the Libertarian Institute.
They do great work over there.
This story is insane.
Not surprising, but insane.
So this is from Dropsite, who I'm not a huge fan of.
They're pretty kind of, I think, I need to do some research on them.
But President Trump has signed an executive order directing War Secretary, which I kind of love that they changed that to the Department of War.
It's much more honest.
War Secretary Pete Hegseth to create a standing National Guard.
You ready for this?
Quick reaction force, a domestic military unit trained, resourced, and ready for rapid nationwide deployment to support law enforcement in, quote, quelling civil disturbances.
That is a terrifying sentence.
Under the order, Hegseth must designate guard members in every state, ensure that they are trained and equipped, and make them available for mobilization at the president's direction.
So this is basically like his own little private army to deal with civil disturbances, civil unrest, protesters, basically.
And we've seen the way that Trump treats protesters.
It's not good.
So this is not good stuff.
Investigative reporter Radley Balko warned on Democracy Now that Trump has long sought a loyal paramilitary force to crush dissent, calling the order a dangerous erosion of the line between the military and civilian policing.
If courts block the plan, Balco cautioned Trump could expand ICE and Border Patrol into a de facto domestic army agencies already flush with new congressional funding and less constrained by constitutional limits.
And this is why we don't support ICE, or I don't support ICE.
Maybe you do.
I do not support ICE and Border Patrol because I am very, very, very acutely aware of the fact that they can easily be turned and used against American citizens.
They're already well-funded.
They're using Israeli spy technology.
They're using facial recognition technology.
They've got all the bells and whistles and they could very easily be flipped and turned into a domestic operation.
And that's not something I'm interested in in any way, shape or form.
So I do have this segment from Democracy Now where Radley Baco is talking about this.
I'm going to play this for you guys so you can hear him discussing it.
And then we'll come back and talk about it together.
Executive ordered Trump directing Pete Hegseth to quote, ensure the availability of a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resource trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.
Yeah.
So Trump has always wanted his own muscle, right?
He's always expressed envy for dictators and authoritarians overseas who have forces that they can deploy to do their own sort of personal bidding, whether it's putting down protests or going after political opponents.
And during his first term, if you'll remember, Trump regularly posted on social media about the bikers, soldiers, and cops who are ready to rally to his cause and hurt his opponents.
It's hard to remove that context from this executive order.
Trump wants these rapid deployment units created within the National Guard that he can deploy.
I think it's the word nationwide is important, right?
This isn't to deploy overseas.
This is a military force to be deployed domestically.
We've long had a norm or an ethos in this country of keeping the military separate from domestic law enforcement.
Trump is slowly eating away at that and creating a new norm where it's just sort of accepted that this is going to be part of our country now.
We're going to have troops in the streets.
But this is particularly problematic, worrisome because Pete Hexeth has no law enforcement experience, no law enforcement background.
And asking him to oversee this project, to oversee the staffing, the training, and the general oversight, presumably he would be coming up with the rules of engagement for these forces.
Hexeth not only has no law enforcement background, but he defends war criminals.
He doesn't believe war crimes are real or should be prosecuted.
This is a person who wrote in his book that the military should be enlisted in a holy war.
And this is a guy who his favorite word is lethality, right?
So he's going to be the person overseeing this.
I think it is a really dangerous development.
I mean, over the course of recent modern history in the modern world, there have been a lot of strongmen and authoritarians who have created their own paramilitaries who are loyal to them over the country or the Constitution or democracy in general.
And those never situations never turn out well.
No, I would say that's a safe thing to say.
Having a paramilitary force in the streets of this country seems like a really bad idea, guys.
And as a activist, as somebody who has been to many protests, as somebody who has been brutalized by cops at protests, I am not interested at all in having the National Guard rolling into protests.
And we all know that this isn't going to be used for completely out of control situations and where there needs to be, this is going to be used for any and all dissent.
Anybody that protests against Trump, he's going to call in his little paramilitary group to kick your ass.
And that is not okay by any stretch of the imagination.
That's an insane thing that we are looking at here.
But that's exactly what we're what he is seeking to develop here.
Oh, that's just the video there.
So I wanted to bring the paragraphs from this executive order where he's talking about this.
So you can see for yourself exactly what he says in the wording.
This is from the White House website.
So, and this is a longer thing.
I just brought the parts that have to do with this task force, which again, the DC Safe and Beautiful Task Force.
The naming of things.
by Trump is comical.
The DC Safe and Beautiful Task Force establish an executive order 14252 of March 27, 2025, making the District of Columbia Safe and Beautiful, shall establish an online portal for Americans with law enforcement or other relevant backgrounds and experience to apply to join federal law enforcement entities to support the policy goals described in Executive Order 1433.
Each law enforcement agency that is a member of the DC Safe and Beautiful Task Force, as well as other relevant components of the Department of Justice, as the Attorney General determines, shall further, subject to the availability of appropriations and applicable law, immediately create and begin training, manning, hiring, and equipping a specialized unit that is dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital that can be deployed whenever the circumstances necessitate.
And that could be deployed subject to applicable law in other cities where public safety and order has been lost.
The Secretary of Defense shall, subject to the availability of appropriations and applicable law, immediately create and begin training, manning, hiring, and equipping a specialized unit within the District of Columbia National Guard subject to activation under Title 32 of the United States Code that is dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital as appropriate and consistent with applicable law.
The Attorney General, the Secretary of the Interior, and the Secretary of Homeland Security in coordination with the Secretary of Defense shall each deputize the members of this unit to enforce federal law.
The Secretary of Defense shall immediately begin ensuring that each state's Army National Guard and Air National Guard are resource trained, organized, and available to assist federal, state, and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate as appropriate under law in coordination with the respective I really cannot talk today, guys.
Adjudence General, the Secretary of Defense shall designate an appropriate number of each state's trained National Guard members to be reasonably available for rapid mobilization for such purposes.
In addition, the Secretary of Defense shall ensure the availability of a standing National Guard quick reaction force that shall be resource trained and available for rapid nationwide deployment.
So this is basically just Donald Trump's special little military, special little gang that he can deploy anywhere that he wants to, anywhere that he sees fit if anybody happens to get a little too rowdy in protesting against something.
And again, we've seen the way that Donald Trump, and this is not specific to Donald Trump.
We see the way this country treats protesters.
We can look at Standing Rock, For example, under President Obama, they like to or occupy.
I was at Occupy in Columbus, Ohio, and I didn't get brutalized that time, but I saw other people getting brutalized.
This is a very common thing.
This country, the people in power do not like dissent at all.
And I think honestly that the events of January 6th were really just set up to discourage people from protesting, to scare people away from protesting, and other events too, but I think that's the most recent example.
But the idea that he is now attempting to set up this like paramilitary group that is just like rapid response anywhere in the country to come beat people up who are protesting is a ridiculous concept, especially given the fact that we have a right to protect, or we're supposed to have a right to redress our government and protest in this country.
We don't really.
So this is from ABC News, Trump's plan to create guard units to quell civil unrest alarms experts.
A lot of people are freaking out about this, rightfully so.
It's not a good idea.
This is bad.
So President Donald Trump on Monday ordered the Pentagon to create National Guard units in Washington, D.C. and across the country that would be designated to tamp down civil protests and ensure public safety, a job that historically and legally has belonged to civilian law enforcement.
Critics called Trump's desire to build a kind of rapid reaction force for civil unrest alarming, insisting his order pushes legal boundaries for the National Guard, an auxiliary force whose mission is to help fight foreign enemies abroad or aid Americans in times of extraordinary crisis like hurricanes and floods.
So that's generally what they're used for.
When there's a tornado, we send in the National Guard.
They help with cleanup.
They help with, you know, rescues, all of that stuff.
That's typically what they're used for.
He is wanting to change that whole game plan.
In an executive order signed Monday, Trump called on Defense Secretary, which is now War Secretary Pete Hag Seth to designate Army and Air National Guard members in each state who could rapidly deploy to help federal, state, and local law enforcement, quote, in quelling civil disturbances and ensuring the public safety and order whenever the circumstances necessitate as appropriate under the law, end quote.
As appropriate under the law, he is doing a lot of work in that sentence.
We all know that there is no law.
Like the law doesn't apply to them and he'll use it however he wants.
The order also called on Hag Seth to begin immediately training and equipping a quote unquote specialized unit within the DC National Guard that is dedicated to ensuring public safety and order in the nation's capital.
The order says members of the unit would be deputized to enforce federal law.
When asked for comment, the Pentagon said it's reviewing the order and its requirements.
Retired Major General Randy Manner, a former acting vice chief of the National Guard Bureau and vocal opponent of Trump's reliance on guard troops to aid law enforcement, said Trump's orders were unnecessary and 100% political.
There's no question about it.
Quote, the administration is trying to desensitize the American people to get used to American armed soldiers in combat vehicles patrolling the streets of America.
Yes.
Trump wants guard units, quote, whose purpose is to, quite frankly, dominate and police the American people.
And that is extremely disturbing.
The police state.
Y'all, we have been getting led in this direction for a very long time.
The police state, the surveillance state, the technocracy, all of that stuff has been, they're slow walking it.
They're smart.
They're not going to do it overnight.
But this is something that they have been building to over the course of several presidencies, several presidents.
And this, it's really starting to culminate now.
And it's crazy that it's gotten this far.
It's unfortunate that it's gotten this far, but it has gotten this far.
And we're starting to see the way that the surveillance state and the police state is being facilitated now.
And it's wild to me that people, not only are people kind of apathetic about it, but a lot of people are like in support.
And what's wild is it's people who a couple years ago were vehemently against this stuff.
Like the MAGA people, if you would have talked to even in between Trump one and Trump two, they were against this stuff fully and completely.
They have been against the surveillance state.
That's one of the one of the things that I've been able to work with MAGA on is being against the surveillance state, being against the police state, being against, you know, all of that stuff.
But it's, it's crazy to me how effective they are in getting people to support things against their own interests.
It's wild how effective that is.
And here we have it.
And now MAGA, who were so strong in their beliefs against this stuff, and now they fully and 100% support it.
And it's crazy.
They're cheering it on and it's wild.
Like I've seen people on Twitter posting, I voted for this.
You did?
Because like five years ago, you were against this stuff.
And now suddenly it's a thing that you voted for.
It's just crazy to me.
So retired Major General Linda Singh, who led thousands of troops in Baltimore, Maryland during the 2015 riots after the death of Freddie Gray, said the National Guard already has the ability to respond to civil unrest in the times of crisis, but using activated military troops to conduct law enforcement for the long term could have major consequences, including harming the well-being of guard personnel if their own communities reject their mission.
Yeah, this is setting up a massive conflict between the people and the National Guard.
I don't think people are going to like them rolling into their neighborhoods in this manner at all.
So quote, what happens if there's an escalation and civilians are killed or guardsmen are killed?
I don't think we have an answer for that, said Singh, a former, I don't, a Judent?
Am I saying that right?
I feel like that's a weird word that I'm not pronouncing properly.
I don't know.
For the Maryland, Maryland Army National Guard.
Without a plan to return policing power to local civilian authorities, quote, I think we are setting precedents we can't come back from.
And that's the big thing.
Once these things happen, there's really, I mean, we've the Patriot Act, like once these things happen, you like, we don't go back from it.
Once you lose rights, you don't get them back.
So that's why I think that that's really the big, the kicker here is that once the precedent is set, it's really difficult to then effectively fight back the way you came.
Like it's, it's so bad.
So stopping it would be the ideal situation.
So Trump's latest executive order comes after the president deployed some 2,200 National Guard troops to Washington, D.C., declaring crime was out of control, even as city officials insisted it was lower than it's been in decades.
And I have friends that live in D.C. and they have said that it's crime has really not been as bad as it has been in the past.
But that's again, the way that they manufacture consent for this stuff.
They fearmonger and they convince you that crime is out of control and we have to do something about it.
We got to make America safe again.
Let's send in the National Guard.
And then once they do it in DC, that normalizes it.
Once people become kind of accustomed to seeing military personnel walking the streets of an American city, it becomes so much easier for them to continue to do it in subsequent cities.
Since their deployment began, troops have patrolled mostly lower crime areas, including the National Mall and several metro rail stations, armed with M17 pistols and some M4 rifles.
The troops are not conducting arrests, officials said.
Instead, officials say troops are calling in security incidents to local police.
Guard members also could be seen posing with tourists and picking up trash around tourist spots.
Administration officials have defended the move as enabling police to go into higher crime areas.
Trump on Monday said he wants to replicate the deployment in other cities like Chicago.
He's already threatened that.
He said they should be saying, please come in, Trump told reporters of Democratic governors who object to the president's use of the guard in their states.
Under the law known as posse comitatus, the military is barred from acting as law enforcement on U.S. soil, but there are rare exceptions.
Administrators shouldn't.
As in the case of D.C. troops deployed for a federal mission, but kept under the command of governors under a law known as Title 32 are exempt from posse comitatus.
The DC mobilization is reliant on six Republican governors who agreed to Trump's request to send troops from their states to help police in the city where the White House command troops commands troops.
Sending troops into states over the objections of the governor is more limited.
In the case of California, Trump invoked a different law, Title 10, I guess, which allows a president to use guard resources to protect federal property and federal personnel.
The National Guard already has quote unquote quick reaction forces in every state that are able to respond quickly in times of crisis.
I witnessed that when there was a tornado in Dayton, Ohio, which isn't that far from me.
They were able to go in there and help out there.
Actually, they got hit by two tornadoes within like, I don't know, 48 hours.
That was crazy.
Manner said Trump appears to be calling for something different.
Instead of the capability to respond to a crisis, Trump appears to want units that specialize in quelling civil unrest, much as other units might specialize in intelligence or armor.
They're going to be there to police Americans, Manner said.
The White House and Pentagon have not been able to provide a cost estimate on the National Guard deployment in DC.
It's funny how there's never any hand-wringing or pearl clutching over how are we going to pay for that when it's stuff like this.
When it's war or the police state or whatever, there's never any conversation about how are we going to pay for that.
But if you want like health care, sorry, we can't do that.
If it's for bombs, it's all cool.
It's all good.
You don't even have to ask the question.
The check's already signed before the sentence is out of your mouth.
So there you go.
Trump is going to be creating or at least attempting to create his own little paramilitary group that will be ready for rapid response in the United States in the streets of the United States of America whenever he sees fit to police American citizens.
So that's fun.
Good times.
Lots of fun.
All the freedom, guys.
Just look at all the freedom we've got here in the United States.
It's really overwhelming.
Can't handle all the freedom.
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