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Nov. 18, 2024 - Jimmy Dore Show
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This is the Jimmy Dore show, Russell speaking.
Who's calling, please?
Hey, man, this is Jeff Bridges.
Ah, friend of the show, Jeff Bridges.
How are you today?
I'm doing okay, man.
Thanks for asking.
Hey, where's Jimmy today?
Jimmy Dore is on assignment.
Far out, man.
What's he?
Is this a secret thing?
You probably can't tell me.
That's cool.
Hey, I'm fucking pissed, man.
Oh, no.
What are you mad about?
Kamala lost.
Yeah.
The presidential thing, man.
I just found out.
What the fuck?
You just now found out who won the election?
Well, yeah, I'm not a big news guy.
I'm not one of these people that has it on all day in the background.
That's not psychologically healthy, man.
Okay, I understand that, but still, how could you not know the results of the election until just now?
I unplug from time to time.
I do a reset, go into the woods, the fucking forest.
Maybe ayahuasca's involved.
Maybe not.
Depends on the vibe.
And yeah, maybe 10 days.
Does it matter, man?
Does it really fucking matter?
I suppose not.
At the end of the day, we're all on our own journeys.
Fucking hey, man.
That's what I'm saying.
You sound shocked at Kamala's loss.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm shocked.
I thought we had the bag.
I don't know, man.
I smell a rat here.
I don't see how she could have lost.
Well, you know, not enough people voted for her.
That's why she lost.
Yeah, wise ass.
Fucking know that on paper.
But it's just fishy to me.
I was a founding member, or at least charter, you know, early guy in White Dudes for Kamala.
Yeah.
And seeing that movement just take shape, her losing, it's fucking unthinkable, man.
Was that really that big of a movement, though?
Well, it seemed like it was.
It felt like a legitimate groundswell.
Based on what?
The Zooms, the Zoom meetings we had, you know, the meetings over Zoom.
I was on at least two or three of them.
Were there a lot of white dudes on them?
Yeah.
Well, that first one, for sure.
The vibe was electric.
I'll never forget it.
There were a ton of us, just white dudes ready to get the word out about Kamala.
After that, it, you know, started to drop off some, but that's to be expected.
You know, that doesn't really sound like a groundswell.
Well, sure, it was, man.
It just meant that the few guys who were left were super extra committed.
What exactly would you talk about on these Zoom calls?
Kamala, you know, Kamala stuff, how great she is.
If we're being honest, I was usually playing solitaire.
I kind of lost train of thought, but I got into some pretty intense games, man.
Why did you only attend two or three?
Did they stop after that?
Yeah, people, they kept going for a while, but barely anyone was in there.
I'd call in and see just six or seven Facebooks and log right the fuck out, man.
Then why did you think at all that the white dudes for Kamala movement would have moved the needle in this election at all?
Well, a lot of us were famous, you know, a few other guys.
And that ass poll, man, with regular people.
As the old saying goes, you know, so goes Hollywood, so goes the country.
I have literally never heard that.
And I know for a fact that is not true electorally.
Suit yourself, man.
You can think what you want, but not everybody lives in your little bubble, you know.
Those of us in Hollywood know what's going on in the real world.
And we're going to fix shit with Zoom calls.
You'll see.
In the midterms, we'll have white dudes for Adam Schiff or some shit.
We're going to turn this around, man.
Hollywood first.
Well, that is about the most nonsensical thing I have ever heard.
Unfortunately, we have to get going.
Goodbye, Jefferson.
Have a great show.
All right.
Thank you.
This is Russell Dobbler here with Keaton Weiss filling in for Jimmy Dore out on the road.
Trump to select Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead health and human services.
He's dropping some bangers this week.
I am thrilled to announce Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services.
For too long, Americans have been crushed by the industrial food complex and drug companies who have engaged in deception, misinformation, and disinformation when it comes to public health.
The safety and health of all Americans is the most important role of any administration, and HHS will play a big role in helping ensure that everybody will be protected from harmful chemicals, pollutants, pesticides, pharmaceutical products, and food additives that have contributed to the overwhelming health crisis in this country.
Mr. Kennedy will restore these agencies to the traditions of gold standard scientific research and beacons of transparency to end the chronic disease epidemic and to make America great and healthy again.
But I asked him, I asked him, can you leave the McDonald's french fries the way they are?
I like them that way.
The Big Macs and the French fries, can we leave those the same?
Do we have to reform those?
Whatever they're putting in them is working.
Working for me.
I keep telling you, they used to make it in beef tallow.
It's much better.
Come over to my house and I'll make them for you.
Yeah.
President-elect Donald Trump will nominate former presidential candidate and anti-vaccine activist.
And let me just say, this political article does a lot of editorializing that I don't necessarily agree with.
I don't see him as an anti-vaccine activist to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.
The pick, which will royal many public health experts, comes after Trump promised to let Kennedy go wild with health and food policy in his administration after Kennedy dropped his own presidential bid to endorse the now president-elect.
It's also a sign of the opening Trump sees after he scored a decisive electoral victory and Republicans won a comfortable majority in the Senate.
Kennedy 70 thanked Trump for choosing him Thursday night.
Quote, I look forward to working with the more than 80,000 employees at HHS to free the agencies from the smothering cloud of corporate capture so they can pursue their mission to make Americans once again the healthiest people on earth.
He posted on X. 80,000 employees.
Not until Elon Musk finds out about that.
Yeah, he's going to be down to 55.
I am very proud of the 28 employees working with the fruit industry.
Together, we will clean up corruption.
Yeah, he really shouldn't have put that in the tweet.
It wasn't even on Elon Radar.
No, no, no.
Now forget it.
Together, we will clean up corruption, stop the revolving door between industry and government, and return our health agencies to their rich tradition of gold standard evidence-based science.
I will provide Americans with transparency and access to all the data so they can make informed choices for themselves and their families.
Kennedy may still face a steep slope to confirmation after his years of touting, debunked claims that vaccines cause autism.
Now, listen, I don't have a dog in this fight, but it's not debunked.
Written clearly, there are, as he says in his own book, which I have issues with, we both have issues with, and we've talked about them on our own show.
I don't take everything that RFK says as gospel.
But he does say at the beginning of his book, very much like he says in the JFK film and Oliver Stone's JFK film, he lays out this theory of the case and he puts in the mouth of Kevin Costner's prosecutor: even if you don't believe this is how it happened, clearly what we've been told about how it happened is not how it happened.
So you have to start from that premise.
Clearly, there's something that's causing autism to explode.
Is it vaccines?
Well, that's one theoretical culprit.
It could be plastics in the environment.
It could be this.
It could be these screens, but something is causing an explosion in autism.
Written a book accusing former National Institutes of Health official Anthony Fauci of conspiring with tech mogul Bill Gates and drug makers to sell COVID-19 vaccines and said regulatory officials are industry puppets who should be removed.
Now, I will say this: you know, obviously, I can't prove that he was right about that.
I think we can all prove that Bill Gates lied to the public when he said the reason they weren't going to release the IP and the formula for the vaccines was because those ignorant brown people over there don't know how to make medicine.
Like they don't have any factories in other parts of the world to make the medicine.
So we know he lied about why they would not release the IP at the very least.
Senator John Cornyn said Kennedy will be treated like all other nominees.
Quote, I don't have any preconceived notion about it, Cornyn said.
When asked if vaccine positions might make confirmation difficult, I'm sure it will come up.
You think?
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries took the real estate lobby's cock out of his mouth for a moment to say it's up to the Senate to confirm or reject Kennedy, but was skeptical that he was the right choice.
Quote, is RFK Jr. the best qualified person in the United States of America to lead us forward as we grapple with an enormous amount of health challenges in this country?
The answer is clearly he is not.
In recent weeks, Kennedy has hit the media circuit to say he isn't taking vaccines away from anyone.
Quote, I'm going to make sure scientific safety studies and efficacy are out there and people can make individual assessments about whether that product is going to be good for them.
He told MSNBC the day after Trump's win.
He also claimed the Trump administration would recommend against fluoride and drinking water, which is added to prevent cavities.
Kennedy has said it's almost certainly causing a loss of IQ in children, as some studies have found.
Now, just to comment on this, I looked into it and actually, it turns out this is true.
A lot of countries have stopped doing it.
Apparently, when they introduced fluoride, you didn't have it in toothpaste, but now it's really not necessary anymore.
So you're winding up with kind of an overdose of fluoride between having it in the water and having it in the toothpaste.
A lot of localities in the United States have stopped using it because of that.
I don't allow my kids to brush their teeth.
Well, not until they're 12, right?
Yeah, wait until they're 12.
When the adult teeth come in, they compress them.
Exactly.
Right.
Exactly.
These are going to fall out.
Your kids' teeth are going to fall out anyway.
What do you need them for?
I've heard you could save $3,867 by not having them brush their teeth in 2012.
Mike Benz, I don't think folks outside government have any idea how big a deal this is.
HHS has the single largest budget of any department in the entire federal government, even more money than the Pentagon.
$2 trillion a year now under RFK's top dog accountability.
Well, A, don't count your chickens before they hatch.
He has to get confirmed.
B, I got to say, who knew?
I didn't know that.
Did you know that?
I don't know that has the biggest budget in the government.
No.
I mean, according to this chart.
Anyway, this is something, honestly, I'd like to do some follow-up research on because I've never heard that, but okay.
All right.
Big pharma stocks tumble as Trump nominates RFK Jr. to lead HHS.
And this is where you got to say, you know, when Matt Gates gets nominated as attorney general and immediately the stock market tanks and when they name RFK and immediately the pharmaceutical companies tank, you know, you got to say they're kind of on the right track here.
Dr. Ben Tapper, best comment ever.
All right.
So let's just go to the video here.
Okay.
Christophine, a pre-licensing safety trial of any of the 72 vaccines, doses that are now essentially mandated.
They're recommended, but that's effectively mandated for American children.
And we have not been able to find any.
And every other medication requires prior to licensing by FDA.
Have the company perform a safety trial that compares health outcomes and placebo in a placebo group and a similarly situated vaccine group.
My assumption was that was done for vaccines.
We found out that it hadn't been, that it was not.
It were exempt.
And I made that statement publicly.
Dr. Fauci contradicted me.
And when President Trump ordered him to meet with me, him and Francis Collins and a group of my colleagues, I said to them at that time, you've said publicly that I've been dishonest about that.
Can you show us a single pre-licensing safety trial, placebo-controlled safety trial for any of the 72 vaccines required for American children?
And he made that show of looking through a file and he said, well, they're back in Bethesda.
And I said, will you send them to me?
And I never heard from him again.
So we sued the HHS under the Freedom of Information Law after a year of litigation.
They sent us a letter which is posted on CHD's website that acknowledges that they are now not able to locate a single pre-licensing safety trial, placebo control for any of the vaccines that are now mandated for children.
These are zero liability vaccines.
I'm not anti-vaccine, but I think we need to be honest and we need to have good science.
I spent 30 years trying to get mercury out of the fish in this country and nobody ever called me any fish.
Okay.
I am anti-fish.
And I see in the chat, it's a joke.
Of course, my kids brush their teeth.
Of course, it's a comedy show.
He's joking.
Normally, I wouldn't care, but that's the last thing I need.
I need a social worker showing up in my door.
Apparently, you don't allow your children to brush their teeth.
You said it on a podcast that thousands of people heard.
So I will have to correct the chat on that.
Okay.
So me and Katen talked about this a little earlier.
And hey, I will be honest, because we really started podcasting at a time when you could get, especially the size that we were, which was like, you know, 17 people listening, you could very easily get thrown off the air even talking about this stuff.
It's not something I think either one of us are really experts in.
I tend to default in terms of vaccines.
I tend to default to the idea that, yes, some medications are beneficial and you need certain things, but the less you mess with your natural body, the better.
When I was a kid, you know, we all, we were talking about this.
You know, people my age, we have that little indentation that they used to give you with the vaccine.
They stopped doing it sometime in the early 70s.
72 seems excessive to me.
And I know this is not bullshit because I asked a very libby friend with children about how many vaccines the kids were getting.
And it was like in that range.
So I know it's not just something he's pulling out of the air.
Again, I'm not an expert.
I haven't dug down into the deep research on this.
It seems to me, because I know we didn't get no 72 when I was coming up.
That's especially being in a country where we know, as we'll see when we get into some of the food stuff, we know that our regulatory agencies have been corrupted by infiltration by the industries that they're supposed to be regulating.
Like, do I think that it grew to 72 since I was a kid from like, I don't know, a handful of vaccines we would get?
I don't know the exact number, but it was definitely 10 or under.
Has it grown to 72 because of health or because of profit?
I'd say it's a safe bet.
It's because of profit.
Is that having a deleterious effect on children?
Who knows, man?
You know, they're doing studies right now to try to figure out why Gen Z seems to be aging faster than previous generations.
Why is that?
Again, there could be a lot of culprits, man.
There are a lot of poisons in the environment.
We know plastics may disrupt the endocrine system.
Could have to do with that.
It might have nothing to do with this.
But is it worth looking into?
Sure.
Is it by definition something?
No, no way you can look.
Why?
Why?
Nothing.
I mean, science, right?
Like, look into it.
Why not?
Where's your piece?
Okay, there it is.
All right.
So FDA's revolving door.
Companies often hire agency staffers who manage their successful drug reviews.
The Food and Drug Administration, FDA, says its rules, along with federal laws, stop employees from improperly cashing in on their government service.
But how adequate are those revolving door controls?
Science has found that much like outside advisors, regular employees at the agency headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland, often reap later rewards, jobs or consulting work from the makers of the drugs they previously regulated.
FDA staffers play a pivotal role in drug approvals, presenting evidence to the agency's advisory panels and influencing or making approval decisions.
They are free to move to jobs in pharma, and many do.
In a 2016 study in the BMJ, researchers examined the job histories of 55 FDA staff who had conducted drug reviews over a nine-year period.
Okay, I'm going to try to say this in the hematology field, hematology, oncology.
Oh, I say, all right.
So it's those words combined.
They found that 15 of the 26 employees who left the agency later worked or consulted for the biopharmaceutical industry.
So I would really recommend a movie.
It's not about pharma.
It's about the medical device industry on Netflix called The Bleeding Edge that deals with that capture of the regulatory agencies in the medical device industry to some really horrific results for patients.
This is RFK seemingly getting the endorsement of a former CDC director who once completely dismissed him.
Something interesting that happened today.
And I actually was going to mention this, Durant.
This was an extraordinary event to me.
But Robert Redfield, who I really go after in my Fauci book, kind of hammering tongs, wrote an editorial in Newsweek magazine today saying that he was endorsing President Trump because President Trump was going to restore American health.
And that President Trump, he said, a lot of people might surprise me to see this, but to hear me say this, but he has chosen exactly the only person who can do this, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
This was breathtaking to me because this is the guy who's the head of the CDC that I've been criticizing for years.
And then this afternoon he came over and had lunch with me.
It's the first time I've ever met him.
And the first thing he said to me is, you got everything right.
Wow.
Wow.
Okay.
So some people in the medical field who were once opposed to a lot of RFK's ideas seem to be coming around.
This tweet here has some skepticism about what the effect of it will be.
The RFK Jr. appointment to HHS is cool, though it seems highly unlikely this will influence the U.S. government's subsidization of crops used for the seed oils and other harmful ingredients like high fructose corn syrup RFK discusses so often.
Call me cynical, but I don't see one of the nation's biggest lobbies and welfare recipients, Big Ag, falling in line on this, nor do I see Trump and big ag-funded lawmakers pulling the farm bill that enables this subsidization of disease.
Trump signed it during his first administration.
Now, that would be my skepticism.
Here is an example of what she's talking about.
If you know anybody who's moved here from a foreign country and talk to them about it, they'll always tell you when they move to America, they gained five, 10 pounds, sometimes more, without changing their diet.
Because part of it is what we put in our food, that in other countries, they would never allow you to make it like this.
So look, the same exact product, Heinz ketchup.
In America, it's tomato concentrate, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt spice, onion powder, natural flavoring.
UK, tomatoes, not tomato concentrate, tomatoes, spirit vinegar.
I don't know what the difference is between that and distilled vinegar.
Sugar, salt, spice, and herb extract, spice.
Notice what's missing.
High fructose corn syrup, corn syrup.
I force my kids to eat American ketchup and then not brush their teeth.
Yeah, and then not brush their teeth.
Yeah.
Okay.
They brush their teeth with American ketchup.
Yeah.
So this is the kind of thing that the people who are opposed to RFK have been trying to push.
And the reason I wanted to get into this is I want to say, hey, look, if what you're going to argue is that RFK is making a lot of wild claims without evidence, well, what have you people been doing?
What have you people been doing?
You have literally, for purposes of social engineering or through the language of social justice, been telling people that this is healthy.
And that is complete and total bullshit.
It's bullshit.
That runs in complete contradiction to all of the science around obesity.
Every study that's ever been done on obesity.
Can you be healthier than otherwise?
Could you maybe be this size and walk around the block a few times and break up some of the some of the clogs in your arteries?
Sure.
And when you talk to people who say you can be healthy at any size, that's actually what they mean.
What they mean is healthier, healthier.
So now why would they be pushing such an anti-science thing?
And if you think this is only culture, it's not government, LA school district is slammed for posting woke video that says calling junk food bad is wrong and promotes new concept of food neutrality, food neutrality, that claims diet culture is based on oppression.
Let's take a look at that video.
This is what a lot of the opponents of RFK calling his ideas dangerous have been telling people is okay.
Donuts.
Those are so bad for you.
Oh, no.
Are they moldy?
I mean, are they poisoned?
Are you allergic?
No, I'm just saying.
You're judging my food choices based on a false standard of health again, aren't you?
Guilty.
Bad culture, fat phobia, and systems of oppression have created false hierarchies of food, and it shows up everywhere.
For instance, harmful thought patterns like earning food through exercising, or that dessert is the reward for the punishment of eating vegetables.
Remember that you do not need to earn food.
We are all incorrectly taught from a young age that our size and therefore the foods that we eat are markers of our self-worth.
Moralizing food can lead to harmful relationships of food and assorted eating.
Instead of focusing on good and bad choices, try to approach food with neutrality in mind.
The only foods that are bad for you are foods that contain allergens, poisons, and contaminants.
Or food that is spoiled or is otherwise inedible.
Eat without guilt, regardless of what society says.
Okay, so you see that nutritionist there.
Well, it turns out that she's actually working with Mondelez, one of the world's biggest snack food manufacturers.
And this is very much like we saw with the doctors who used to come out for cigarettes, talking about healthy cigarettes who were paid to do studies by the tobacco companies.
This whole thing has been dressing up an agenda that very often is directly financed by food companies to dress up a very unhealthy lifestyle in the language of social justice.
I mean, really, I think it's a crime to have told people who are at risk of death and disease.
No, no, no, you can be healthy that way.
Just absolutely horrible.
So you want to say, oh, well, what RFK is saying is dangerous.
It's crazy.
Well, is it compared to what you've been telling people?
Even if it were, you've lost authority in the public mind because of things like this.
You have lost the authority to tell people what is healthy and what is not because you told them that that was healthy, that donuts are the same as broccoli.
You shouldn't shame people.
And here, just as a reminder, the Democrats made kindergartners eat lunch outside on the concrete in masks, lowering masks between bites six feet apart in 2022.
And New York Times reporters with kids in these schools stayed silent, but sure, RFK is the problem.
Hey, man, they're right.
They're right.
You cannot now come and tell people everything is about science, everything is based in the studies.
When you handled that, that was kind of the final nail in the coffin.
When you're telling people, yes, you can go to restaurants if you take the mask and take the bite and put the mask back on.
It was all this kabuki of COVID hygiene.
You completely blew your credibility with the public.
So now, of course, they're not going to listen to what you have to say.
Whether you're right, whether you're wrong, you have lost the public's trust for good reason.
Well, Max Blumenthal tweeted out something to that effect that the number of lies told during and even coming right out of the pandemic are the reason why RFK was able to gain the kind of traction that he did.
Yes.
You know, that was basically his point.
And I think that that point is obviously true, you know, pretty much across the board when you look at the distrust in all of these institutions, especially public health as it pertains to this conversation.
Yeah, I mean, this is not difficult to see coming.
Now, what is difficult to see coming is whether or not he will get confirmed.
Because this is a situation where you're looking at, you know, a lot of, I mean, the pharma stocks tanked when he was named nominee.
And, you know, Trump is a very powerful figure in the Republican Party.
So is pharmaceutical money.
Pharmaceutical money is a very, very powerful player in both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party and the food industry, obviously.
You know, and that's that's where he has placed most of his focus and sort of emphasis on food.
He's mentioned the vaccine stuff when it's been brought up to him, but he has not really led with that.
And so that's a question.
You talk about banning pharmaceutical advertising on TV.
If that's going to be part of the program, I mean, you're going to be met with massive, massive opposition on that front, including to a lot of Republican from a lot of Republican senators are going to be hearing a lot of phone calls from donors saying you better not do this.
Now, the question is, is Trump scarier to them than the pharmaceutical company?
That's an open question at this point.
Because of the landslide victory that he won, I think you could reasonably argue that these senators are going to be more afraid of Donald Trump than they are of big pharma.
The second question downstream of that is how committed to RFK is Trump?
Is Trump going to actually go to bat and try and whip the votes for him?
Or, and this is a question kind of across the board, especially with the Tulsi pick.
Gates is a loyalist to Trump, so I think he really wants Gates.
But are Trump and RF, I'm sorry, are Tulsi and RFK these sort of gestures to a certain contingent of MAGA, the sort of right?
I won't say bipartisan, but the sort of amorphous sort of independent faction of MAGA.
Is he doing that to make it look like he tried to get them in the door?
And if they go down or if it looks like they're going to go down, how hard Is he going to fight for them?
In other words, is this more a gesture than an actual plan?
To me, that's up in the air.
And I think a lot of it depends on how fearful a lot of these swing votes in the Senate, who could go either way, how fearful are they of the pharmaceutical donors?
Are they more afraid of them or of Trump?
Yeah, you have to remember the pharmaceutical companies, big agribusiness, food manufacturers, they have a stranglehold on the government.
Even if he gets confirmed, will he be able to do what he's trying to do?
You're talking about a level of corruption almost as profound as the military-industrial complex.
That's why our ketchup is that way.
And if you go to another country, they don't make it in a way that is going to make you put on three pounds because you put some ketchup on a hamburger.
Can he really overcome that?
You've got to go against the agricultural farmers lobby.
They get subsidies for the corn.
That's a big part of why you have all this corn syrup and everything.
That is an open question.
You know, as you point out, that corruption is not particular to Democrats.
It runs throughout the government.
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
They bribe everybody.
Exactly.
So even if they do confirm him, it's not clear he won't just be sabotaged at these agencies and not really able to do anything.
But hey, man, of all of Trump's picks at this point, obviously I don't like RFK's views on Israel, but that has nothing to do with his job.
So it really doesn't come into play here.
This is probably the pick that I most would say, hell yeah, much better than what's there, much better than what's there, even if I don't agree with him on everything, even in this area.
Yes, I can't.
Who else would you put there who might do something about a food supply and a drug supply that is so corrupted that at this point it's become a danger to the public?
It's his most pro-Palestine pick so far since he put RFK somewhere where he can't kill any of them.
Yes.
Yes, it is.
That's another reason I'm for it.
Yeah.
It's keeping him away from the Department of Defense.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
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President-elect Donald Trump's choice of Tulsi Gabbard as U.S. intelligence chief has sent shockwaves through the national security establishment, adding to concerns that the sprawling intelligent community will become increasingly politicized.
Well, you know, what I always say about the intelligence community is I'm glad it's not politicized.
I'm glad they're just doing balls and strikes over there.
I'm glad they don't have an agenda or anything.
It's one of our last great institutions still staying.
It really is.
Them and the fire department.
So here, the kind of cracker jack journalism you expect from the Atlantic.
They wrote a whole thing.
Tulsi Gabbard's nomination is a national security risk.
President-elect Donald Trump has nominated former rep Tulsi Gabbard as the director of national intelligence.
The officer of the director of national intelligence was created after 9-11 to remedy what American policymakers believed was a lack of coordination among the various national intelligence agencies.
And the DNI sits atop all of America's intelligence services, including the CIA.
I think what caused 9-11 was a lack of desire to not have it happen.
That's what I think.
That's what it was.
That's what it was.
I think that's more what it was than a lack of coordination.
I think it was a lack of desire to prevent it from happening.
Yes, some people are saying that.
Yes.
Some very smart.
Some much smarter people, much smarter people are saying that than the people who call Tulsi Gabbard the people who smeared Tulsi Gabbard.
Gabbard is stunningly unqualified for almost any cabinet post.
They don't even want her as the chef, as are some of Trump's other picks, but especially for ODNI.
She has no qualifications as an intelligence professional.
Literally none.
She is a reserve lieutenant colonel who previously served in the Hawaii Army National Guard with assignments in medical, police, and civil affairs support positions.
She has won some local elections and also represented Hawaii in Congress.
Well, that's more qualified than Obama was when you backed him for president.
In early 2017, while still a member of Congress, Gabbard met with Assad saying that peace in Syria was only possible if the international community would have a conversation with him.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
She felt that we should have a conversation with a hostile power in order to make peace.
Well, you didn't know that the way to make peace is you only talk to friends.
That's how you make that.
That's how you keep it.
Well, no, usually you do like a dance where you throw bones in the air, do some chanting, right?
You're not supposed to talk to them.
Quote, let the Syrian people themselves determine their future, not the United States, not some foreign country, Gabbard said, after chatting with a man who had stopped the Syrian people from determining their own future by using chemical weapons on them.
Now, folks, that is how propaganda works, as we'll see.
Two years later, she added that Assad was, quote, not the enemy of the United States because Syria does not pose a direct threat to the United States and that her critics were merely warmongers.
So the way the propaganda works Is it doesn't matter.
It always reminds me of the Eddie Murphy joke about cheating.
Deny it.
Even if she has pictures, deny it.
It doesn't matter what evidence is there.
That's why they're still talking about all the mass rapes on October 7th.
It doesn't matter how many times they are not able to come up with evidence from people who are sympathetic to that claims.
We'll tell you the New York Times had to revise its stories and its reporting.
And we are not saying that no sexual assaults were committed on that day.
But this story of mass rapes, beheaded babies, there is no evidence for this, but they just keep saying it.
Every time they talk about it, it doesn't matter.
Same thing with the chemical attacks.
UK intelligence, this is from our friends at the gray zone.
UK intelligence spun 2013 Syria chemical attack, leaked docs show.
U.S. officials suppressed internal assessments that Al-Qaeda's Syrian wing had an advanced sarin production cell, even as the U.S. publicly blamed the Assad government for a 2013 chemical weapons attack, a report reveals.
Leaked documents obtained by the Gray Zone show a shadowy British intelligence contractor helped sell the story that Assad was responsible and nearly triggered Western intervention.
So if any of you haven't checked it out, go to the gray zone, check out that story published last year.
Here is Barry Weiss in a very now infamous appearance on the Joe Rogan show smearing Tulsi Gabbard.
Yep, we're going to show this again, and this has special significance on the Jimmy Door show because as I understand, this clip when it originally came out is still the top, the most viewed clip in the history of the Jimmy Dore show.
I believe that's true.
Yeah, Jimmy could confirm that, but it was true at the time that, yeah, I first met him and we talked about it.
Well, Malcolm's watching, Malcolm confirmed.
Can you fact-check that?
This clip, when this was first showed on the Jimmy Dore show, this was the most viewed video clip in the history of this show.
So this carries a little bit of special significance here, but let's take another look.
Angela brand.
Monstrous.
Monstrous.
Ideas.
Ideas.
Well, when she was 22, she had...
What does that mean?
She is a toady.
I think that I used that word correctly.
Jamie, can you check what Tody means?
Like toe in the line.
Is that what you mean?
Shonda.
Shonda to the wife's name.
That's a T. That's an Ivy League education there for you, folks.
What does that mean?
I think it means.
Today, definition of toadies.
A person who flatters or defers to others for self-serving reasons.
A sycophant.
So she's an Assad sycophant.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, that's known about her.
Just take the offering.
What did she say?
I don't remember the details.
I've read it.
We should say that.
Say yes.
Say that about her.
We should probably read it rather.
Well, I have read it.
I mean, we should write about it.
Oh, yeah.
Listen, Joe is a comic.
He's giving you a pitch.
Just say yes.
Stop digging.
She's not from that world.
She's not from that world.
He's giving you a way out.
Say that about her.
We should probably read it rather.
I have read it.
No, we should write it down.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Just so we know what she said.
That's how I see Gabber.
I really enjoy talking to her.
I like her a lot.
Are you serious?
Yeah, I like talking to her.
Okay.
I like talking to her.
I don't know about.
I think she's like the motherload of bad ideas.
Whoa.
She's just a brutal view.
Pretty positive about that.
Especially on Assad.
But maybe I'm wrong.
I don't think I'm wrong.
Well, I find Barry Weiss to be one of the most loathsome people on the planet, and it still is painful to watch this.
Like, as much as I don't like her, it still makes me cringe to watch this.
Yeah.
Yes.
I would play it.
My take on her was that I think as a person who's coming from the left, who's also a veteran and is very articulate and sensible and a woman.
And in talking to her, we didn't get into Assad or any of those things.
But talking to her about what she feels is wrong with the current administration and the way things are running and a direction she thinks things could go in, she had some very promising ideas.
I didn't know about this.
But doesn't she also, did she ever apologize for believing in conversion therapy?
I didn't even know she believed in conversion therapy.
Am I crazy?
You know who believes in conversion therapy?
Palestinians.
Damn it.
So why don't you go to Gaza and get some conversion therapy?
Malcolm says by more than double, by the way.
Yeah, no, that's the record-setting clip.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So I was thinking about it.
I didn't even know that.
Yeah.
Barry Weiss, speaking of conversion therapy, stood in a room full of Christian conservatives and said, I know you don't approve of my marriage.
Some of you don't, but you are my true people.
And why did she say that?
Because they're Zionists.
There is a pogrom unfolding right now on the streets of Amsterdam.
This is the quality of reporting that you get from Barry Weiss.
And here's a response from an actual person in Amsterdam.
A pogrom, go fuck yourself.
I'm Jewish and live in the Netherlands, and I'm proud to see the complete and total rejection of fascist Nazi Zionism in our streets.
There's an actual Zionist Holocaust against Palestine right now.
And per usual, Zionists are committed to playing the victim.
Caitlin Johnston weighed in on this incident.
The way raw video evidence debunked the Amsterdam pogrom narrative in real time in full view of the entire world is exactly why Israel hates journalists.
It's why it won't let the Western press visit Gaza, and it's why it murders Palestinian journalists at every opportunity.
So I bet Barry Weiss is really upset about the Tulsi nomination Now, oh, maybe not so much.
Maybe not so much.
This is Tulsi's tweet.
Islamist, this is from November 1st, 2023.
Islamist jihadists, both Sunni and Shiite, openly call for wiping out all Jews from the face of the earth.
Yet Corey, Bush, the squad, and others support or act as apologists for such jihadists and say that Israel is guilty of human rights abuses and genocide.
This is one of the main reasons I left the Democratic Party.
Maybe she didn't hear about their support for genocide, because it is led by and rife with apologists for Islamist jihadists.
So, hey, man, it seems to me that reconciliation between Barry and Tulsi, maybe on the Joe Rogan show, is just around the corner because it seems like their views have come more into alignment since that clip was dropped.
Here's an idea.
Gabbard's shilling for Assad is a mystery, but she's even more dedicated to carrying Putin's water.
Putin!
Tom Rogan, a conservative writer and hardly a liberal hand-wringer, summed up her record succinctly in the Washington Examiner today.
Quote, she has blamed NATO and the U.S. for Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Again, to the celebration of both Russian and Chinese state media, has repeated Russian propaganda claims that the U.S. has set up secret bioweapons labs in that country and has argued that the U.S., not Russia, is wholly responsible for Putin's nuclear brinksmanship.
Now, this is once again how propaganda works.
They ignore evidence.
They just repeat lies.
And for the kinds of people who read The Atlantic and think it's news, they take it seriously.
So here's Glenn Greenwald.
Still strange.
Rubio asked Victoria Newland if Ukraine has bioweapons, thinking she'd say no.
Instead, she said they have biological research facilities too dangerous to let Russia get.
Anyone who noticed was branded a conspiracy theorist.
Let's see the video.
I only have a minute left.
Let me ask you.
Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?
Ukraine has biological research facilities, which, in fact, we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russian forces may be seeking to gain control of.
So we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach.
I'm sure.
Well, so why is Tulsi out of line to point out something that establishment psychopath in good standing, Victoria Newland, herself, said under oath?
Clearly it's true.
That's the kind of reporting you get out of the Atlantic.
We've now nailed down two things that have been proven false that they make part of their case against Tulsi here.
Well, also, like, doesn't Tulsi's committed Zionism, doesn't her commitment to Israel kind of disprove that she's a Putin puppet?
I mean, Russia is not pro-Israel.
BRICS is generally pro-Palestine, right?
So like, wouldn't wouldn't like if she was being controlled by Russia, would she be that fanatical on the Israel issue?
I mean, that seems to be evidence against that.
This is what I'm going to have to start calling the Elizabeth Warren syndrome.
Like, you have to be entirely their creature or you're always suspect.
If you ever kick out the fence, they're never going to let you in the club.
You know, I think AOC is getting a pass because she's very young.
They're clearly grooming her for one of the top spots in the corporation.
Presidents should be given deference in staffing their cabinet.
But this nomination should be one of the handful of Trump appointments where soon-to-be majority leader Jon Thune and his Republican colleagues draw a hard line and say no, at least if they still care at all about exercising the Senate's constitutional duty of advice and consent.
Now, this is the thing about this.
This is the thing.
Okay, so let's say everything that you're saying is true.
And this is going to be a running theme, I think, as we go through these appointments.
You lost your ability to claim authority in such matters by propping up criminals like John Brennan.
And as we will see, I'm not being hyperbolic in calling John Brennan a criminal.
So let's take a look at what he had to say.
Oh, I'm sorry.
What did I do?
Sorry.
My bad.
I lost it for a second.
Here is your thoughts about Tulsi Gabbard.
Well, Nicole, I think you and Tom Nichols have done a great job just underscoring all the concerns that people have about this appointment.
Clearly, Tulsi Gabbard has taken actions and made statements over the past several years that really raised serious questions about her common sense, her judgment, as well as her political sympathies.
Cozying up to Putin as well as to meeting with Bashar Assad, I think really does show that she doesn't have the type of perspective that is needed for somebody who's going to head up these 18 intelligence agencies.
And as Tom Nichols said, she doesn't have any qualifications.
The Director of National Intelligence, that's a really serious position and a very complex and complicated one that requires somebody who actually has an understanding of the intelligence community.
It's like an orchestra conductor of all the different agencies and departments that are involved in the intelligence process.
And I don't think she understands even the instruments that are involved in this orchestra, nor has she had any experience at the strategic level of running and leading a large, complex organization.
And the director of national intelligence is, according to legislation, the president's principal intelligence advisor, the person who is responsible for making sure that the president's daily brief is put together in a very sound and forthright manner.
The person who puts together the budget and the priorities of the intelligence community.
So I know that this appointment is sending shockwaves here in the United States, but also around the globe in terms of, is this really somebody who Donald Trump is going to entrust with the care and the leadership of the intelligence community?
An unserious pick for a serious position.
All right.
So first of all, John, look at her.
Look at you.
Who would you rather get your fucking intelligence report from?
Okay.
All right.
So does that matter?
All right.
So right there, he's winning.
Right there.
This is Trump winning.
That aside, hey, man.
So presumably John Brennan would consider himself somebody who's qualified and the media considers him somebody who's credible.
They constantly publish his op-eds and bring him on shows like that to say things like this.
But John Brennan is a fucking criminal.
John Brennan should be sitting in prison right now.
A brief history of the CIA's unpunished spying on the Senate.
Now, these same people who have rehabilitated this guy, they're the ones who scream about democracy.
They're the ones who scream about the threat that Donald Trump represents and that Tulsi represents.
This guy hacked into the Senate computers and lied about it to spy on their investigation of CIA torture programs, and he got away with it scot-free.
Guess who made the decision about what the penalties were?
A panel appointed by John Brennan to investigate.
The State Department said on Tuesday, oh, sorry.
Last March, Senator Diane Feinstein accused the CIA of spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it labored to finalize its report on the torture of prisoners.
Quote, I have grave concerns that the CIA's search may well have violated the separation of powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution, she said.
I have asked for an apology and a recognition that this CIA search of computers used by its oversight committee was inappropriate.
I have received neither.
CIA Director John Brennan denied the charge.
Nothing could be further from the truth, he said.
We wouldn't do that.
That's just beyond the scope of reason in terms of what we do.
It would be months before his denial was publicly proved false.
So he lied under oath.
He directed the CIA, and that was part of what the investigation showed, the independent investigation, showed that Brennan directed the CIA to hack into the computers of the senators that were investigating the CIA.
What could be more dangerous to democracy than a rogue intelligence agency hacking into the computers of the elected representatives who are trying to hold that agency accountable for its actions?
And these same people who will cry their tears to you about Tulsi Gabbard will put this criminal on the air to tell you how dangerous Tulsi Gabbard is.
Yep.
So an internal investigation by the CIA has found that its officers penetrated a computer network used by the Senate Intelligence Committee in preparing its damning report on the CIA's detention and interrogation program, the New York Times reported.
The report by the agency's inspector general also found that CIA officers read the emails of the Senate investigators and sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department based on false information.
So I guess that's how, according to Brennan, I guess that's what makes you qualified for this position, that kind of behavior.
So not to be outdone, this is from Max Blumenthal.
AOCIA nods along with Joy Reed's McCarthyite pro-war, pro-regime change case for opposing Tulsi Gabbard, then calls Tulsi pro-war without explaining why.
This is the poser who boxed the squad into supporting $100 billion plus dollars in military aid to Ukraine.
Haven't even gotten to Tulsi Gabbard potentially having access to national security information, and Russia loves it.
Loves her.
And I actually think almost more than Matt Gates, Tulsi Gabbard's appointment is devastating.
And Tulsi Gabbard's nomination, as much as she says that she's an anti-war person, she's not.
She supports very pro-war.
Are you going to say Israel?
Let's be very clear.
Oh, no.
No one's going to say Israel.
That's so weird.
Pro-war nomination globally.
Point blank, period.
As is Donald Trump as president of the United States.
I just like, on what basis, I mean, this is what kind of Max mentioned.
They don't need a basis.
Right.
But this is what Max mentions in his tweet.
They're like, on what basis can AOC claim that Tulsi Gabbard is pro-war in a more substantial way than she is, given her support for Ukraine funding, which is the most sort of on the nose.
But then obviously, and we've said saying this song a million times, support for Joe Biden at first and then Kamala Harris second while they perpetrate a genocide.
Like, look, I can call Tulsi pro-war.
Look, I don't really, I don't really have much patience left in the tank for any of these pro-Israel people at this point.
So I really have no more love left for Tulsi Gabbard in my heart.
But AOC has no standing to make that charge.
Like, I have standing to make that charge.
Some people do, but not AOC.
Well, and the only basis that she has for saying that, because she is actually more dovish on everything but Israel.
She's got the Zionist derangement About Israel, like Trump's whole crowd does.
She has Arab derangement syndrome.
She has Palestine derangement syndrome.
But on Ukraine, obviously, she's more dovish.
Obviously, on Syria, much to their consternation, she's more dovish.
And if you notice, that's the thing they won't mention.
They won't say, well, she's hawkish on Israel because they don't want to mess with that.
Well, they're finally, they find, I mean, if you're the squad, especially, I mean, you're finally being treated well on MSNBC.
It took a while for them to be treated well on MSNBC.
Now they finally are.
Now, here is the good news.
It looks like MSNBC really is up for sale.
That's not just a gleeful rumor.
And God knows how many of these people they would retain.
But one would imagine that if somebody's going to put up money for that piece of shit, Joy Reed's going to be out of a job.
She just left X. She probably should have waited to see how that sale was going to go.
Maybe Alex Jones will buy it.
She can get to.
Get a little musical chairs going.
Onion buys Infowars.
He buys MSNBC.
MSNBC buys Premier Magazine.
No, the ratings on CNN, on MSNBC, they've completely cratered.
And we've talked about this.
Their whole business model is that they're packaged with cable packages that they don't make money on their own Steam.
So at this point, is it even enough?
Is it even enough to keep them afloat?
I mean, when you're down to 18 people watching regularly, can you really even, with the bundling deals, keep these networks going?
They might just disappear.
I mean, they are dinosaurs.
We knew 10 years ago, most of their audience was 70 and up.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
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