Oct. 21, 2024 - Jimmy Dore Show
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| Hey, come see us on two. | |
| We're gonna be in Los Angeles, Columbus, Ohio, Dayton, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Lexicon, Kentucky, Burbank, California, and Honolulu. | |
| Go to JimmyDoor.com for a link for tickets. | |
| Hey, this is Jimmy. | |
| Who's this? | |
| Jimmy, this is Liam Neeson calling you on the telephone machine. | |
| Oh, hi, Liam. | |
| Good to hear from you on the telephone machine. | |
| Liam Neeson, star of stage and screen. | |
| Yeah, right. | |
| Got it? | |
| But not television. | |
| Never. | |
| Oh? | |
| It's below my station. | |
| It's shameful. | |
| I refuse to participate. | |
| Ha ha ha ha! | |
| Ahh! | |
| Ah! | |
| Okay, noted. | |
| How are you doing? | |
| Well, that remains to be seen. | |
| How I will be doing will be determined by the outcome of this very phone call. | |
| Is that so? | |
| Indeed, it is, Jimmy. | |
| I have a confession to make. | |
| Uh-oh. | |
| Needless to say, as a devout Catholic, I have already confessed to a man of a cloth, but I need to make a public confession as well. | |
| Okay. | |
| And the platform that makes the most sense for me to do this is obviously the Jimmy Dor show. | |
| Naturally. | |
| If the public sees fit after the following confession to forgive me for my transgressions, which are voluminous and most scandalous, then you will know your answer. | |
| You will know how I'm doing. | |
| Wow. | |
| This sounds serious. | |
| The floor is yours, Liam Neeson. | |
| As you may be well aware, information has come to light about one Sean Puff Daddy called in the past. | |
| Activities that were positively Bacchanalian in nature. | |
| I don't know what that means. | |
| Rumors have abounded about various celebrities who have participated in these social gatherings. | |
| It is best you hear it from me. | |
| I, Liam Neeson, was one of those celebrities. | |
| Wow. | |
| Okay, well, thanks for sharing that here. | |
| Yes. | |
| From what I've heard, you may be in a bit of trouble, Liam. | |
| I am afraid you may be right, and I am prepared to face the consequences for my actions. | |
| I cannot excuse them in retrospect. | |
| All I could do is to try my best to set things right. | |
| You mean for the victims? | |
| What victims? | |
| Ha ha ha ha! | |
| Ahhhh! | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| What do you mean, what victims of the abuse? | |
| There were people that they're against their will who were drugged. | |
| That's why Diddy's in jail. | |
| My God, this is worse than I thought. | |
| I swear, I thought everyone who was there was there willingly participating. | |
| Enthusiastically so. | |
| Well, apparently not, making these parties horrible crimes. | |
| What did you think people were up in arms about, buddy? | |
| The lewdness, the bawdiness, the foul language. | |
| And God have mercy on my soul. | |
| I participated in all three, especially the baudiness. | |
| You thought Puffy was in trouble over foul language, Liam. | |
| There were kids there. | |
| I'm well aware of that. | |
| You saw children there, Liam, participating in all this. | |
| How old? | |
| I don't know, 13, 14. | |
| I wasn't acquainted with them personally, and I can't say as they were participating. | |
| Sean made sure they were taking the same substances as we were, but obviously at that age, they're still too young to truly understand what they were seeing and hearing. | |
| But we wish them to learn, certainly. | |
| Sort of a demonstration, a rite of initiation. | |
| This is making me sick. | |
| Liam, you may be in some trouble here. | |
| What substances did Diddy give these kids? | |
| Guinness, mainly. | |
| Killions, harp. | |
| Puff Daddy gives teenagers Guinness ale at his parties. | |
| Well, that's not really that out of the ordinary where we're from. | |
| And what were they forced to see and hear? | |
| Well, like I said, baudiness. | |
| Watching drunken adults have an Oscar Wilde quote-off, performing scenes from George Bernard Shaw plays and laughing like a pack of besotted hyenas. | |
| That's what goes on at Diddy parties. | |
| Oh, that more like it. | |
| And Sean Combs wouldn't have it any other way, that red-headed menace. | |
| Wait, wait a minute. | |
| Was this at his LA mansion or his New Jersey one? | |
| Mansion? | |
| It was at his cottage in Enniskillen. | |
| In Ireland? | |
| Northern, yes. | |
| And this is Music Mogul Puff Daddy we're talking about. | |
| Well, to us, he's just Sean Combs. | |
| These various dicknames are new to me. | |
| I saw them exclusively in the headlines. | |
| And Music Mogul may be pushing it a little far. | |
| He does have live music at his establishments, but I doubt it's a large source of income for him. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Sean made his fortune by operating a string of taverns and inns in Ulster. | |
| Liam, I want you to do a Google image search for Puff Daddy. | |
| All right. | |
| Oh, dear. | |
| That is a different Sean Combs. | |
| Yes. | |
| Very different. | |
| Why is his mouth always open? | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| Liam, I think there's a big misunderstanding here. | |
| Read one of those articles, and I think you'll understand the mix-up. | |
| No need for his confession. | |
| Well, thanks for wasting our time, though. | |
| Oh, you mean I'm not in trouble? | |
| I won't be blackballed for our Friday night chalaneries at Shawnee's, even with all the baudiness and poetry. | |
| I'm sure you're fine. | |
| We gotta go, though. | |
| Oh, this is such a giant relief. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Wait, what about the 14-year-old I had sex with? | |
| Fine! | |
| A lot of people pulling their hair out over this election. | |
| Am I right? | |
| One of them, I think, is Andrew Schultz. | |
| I don't know if you know what happened, but Andrew Schultz had a very popular comedian. | |
| They had he had on Donald Trump as a guest on his podcast. | |
| Former President of the United States, maybe the future President of the United States. | |
| That is not okay in a lot of places. | |
| Listen to what listen to what happened to him. | |
| So, yeah, so it was an awesome interview, and everybody loved it. | |
| And then a day later, Dove was like, oh, by the way, the venue you're going to shoot your special in canceled your shows. | |
| No, damn it. | |
| Within three hours. | |
| After we interviewed him, before the episode comes out, he goes to the venue. | |
| Everybody leaves. | |
| It's on Schultz's special team. | |
| All of them have to go to the venue, check it out. | |
| I assume everything is good. | |
| People flew in for this. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| So we've had these venues locked in for months now, month, something like that. | |
| Like, it's not like we might do it here. | |
| It's booked. | |
| It's ready to go. | |
| We're going on sale this week. | |
| Like, we have the entire production team come out for the this is for the third time many of us are you know spotting the venue and looking at everything we have the set design already curated we're moving around seating plots camera like it's it's ready to go we're going on sale this week and we get an email three and a half hours out after discussing with our board members we don't think that it would be there's email you'll bring it up but don't show any emails off but it was a bam brooklyn academy of music which is a venue they've shot | |
| tons of specials in and three and a half hours after the interview they cancel shows so yeah let's see if we can show the thing read the exact email because they're also they're they're canceling my shows but they're also begging uh live nation to not uh cancel future shows with them uh like they still want business but they're like just not this guy now i don't know if it's a trump interview but the day before it came out we were ready to go and we're going on sale this week and three and | |
| a half hours afterwards we get this email yeah first off i want to thank you for thinking of bam for andrew schultz's upcoming comedy show we are always excited when promoters consider our space for their events after some internal discussions with leadership it was decided that bam is not the right fit for this show at this time that said we really do appreciate you reaching out we'd love to work with you in the future and uh for future events that might be a better match for bam so if anybody has a venue uh if | |
| you've got a venue for us that'd be really great i'd really love to shoot this special and uh that'd be really awesome the irony is this is your most personal special yes yes yes like it's not as political as it's you and your journey yeah but but also what's interesting about it is that again they canceled it three hours after the interview came out so before the liberal media spun it in liberals favor so if they waited two days they get the hero you're a darlin of | |
| the liberal you just gotta send them be like i so they | |
| canceled him for interviewing a former president and possible future president and not because he looks like a 70s porn star isn't that amazing yeah now are we sure they didn't cancel because this is his most personal journey uh special yeah i mean they should text him that's why he's canceled right now actually don't you think they should be canceling him because it reminds everybody how much we miss freddie mercury and not for and | |
| not for speaking to the next leader of the free world i mean come on so uh here now this this is what the artistic directors for bam look like how this is bam announces artistic director of fall season lineup is that leadership of in mentioned in the letter i feel like they would never know anything about him and um somebody younger on the staff who still wears a covid mask inform them correct okay thank | |
| you for bringing this to our attention so i | |
| think scissoring for five seconds to cancel they're smiling because they just canceled andrew schultz i think that look at him look at his smirk i mean you better be an international dance team spinning ribbons around to a pan flute if you want to get booked at that theater i guess that's all i'm saying because an edgy comedian might accidentally nick one of those fragile moral hemophiliacs in the in the audience hey here's the cast of their new show odd couple except that this storyline they | |
| both 100 agree about everything um this is how the left plays the game says simon van dyke i ironically named | |
| uh this guy tim cavanaugh had the funniest joke he said dick van dyke had his own show on american television which is crazy considering that two out of the three words in his names are offensive to most americans what's the matter with van that was uh tim cavanaugh's joke great joke anyway this is how the left plays the game if you do anything even having a conversation with someone they don't like they don't | |
| agree with them then they will turn you away and banish you from any space they control yeah it's called repressive tolerance it's marcusa you know the neo-marxist not the marxist the neo-marxist yeah so | |
| so that's what you're supposed to do is have a double standard and then do that kind of shit and uh unless of course they're funding your entire life and you know whatever university you work out to say this shit you'll you'll be ignoring that their right wing nonsense you'll just take it out on things that don't matter such as andrew shooting his special there which affects nothing other than him doing his special so i i i've been canceled by a couple of venues for my politics in brooklyn so we used to play the bell house in brooklyn and | |
| they loved us we'd sell it out three three nights in a row or whatever and uh then they uh after | |
| uh covid they just stopped returning my they won't return they won't book us they won't even acknowledge us i played that but fuck that place i mean i these are all this it's brooklyn again not the bell house not brooklyn it's brooklyn so that yeah no there are pieces of shit what do you what do you think alt look the whole alt scene and the whole bam like bam is a place where steve martin goes to not be funny and talk about art and everybody's mad and wants their money back that's what i remember bam for the most you know yeah steve martin will | |
| not be funny too tonight he will talk about a Rothko to you so give a shit so that's what Brooklyn's become right it's become this woke we just did a whole segment on how woke how woke is there to make you uh talk about identity politics and cultural issues you know so you don't come together as a group of people and oppose the oligarchy on economic issues. | |
| That's the whole point of wokeness. | |
| And it didn't start five minutes ago. | |
| It didn't start 20 years ago. | |
| It started after World War II. | |
| Yeah, there's a whole bunch of leftists that want to live the good life. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They want to live like they want to live like the people they would condemn and want to seize the means from. | |
| So those things don't really go together. | |
| It's like a boutique item. | |
| So here's another play. | |
| Here's another. | |
| So in Chicago, Thalia Hall, we've played that place for years, sold it out. | |
| And then what happened? | |
| We debunked Russia Gate and we told the truth about COVID and they don't want anything. | |
| They won't book us anymore in Chicago. | |
| That's my hometown. | |
| So Thalia Hall went all woke. | |
| And so then I tried to play this other place called the Den Theater in Chicago, which is a new venue. | |
| And it's a nice venue. | |
| A lot of people, I wanted to play there, right? | |
| And I was told, I know the person, one of the people, one of the people in charge, I reached out to, and I said, hey, I'd like to shoot my special there. | |
| I heard good things about it. | |
| My friend Joe Joe Bartnick is shooting a special there. | |
| They came back with, you know, what I was told? | |
| Yeah, that's not going to happen. | |
| And I said, why? | |
| I'll sell it out. | |
| I sell a lot of tickets and they said, yeah, that's not going to happen. | |
| And I said, why? | |
| I sell it out. | |
| I sell a lot of tickets. | |
| And they said, let me just put it this way, Jimmy. | |
| The word is they're not doing politics right now. | |
| That was what I was, that was what I was told. | |
| They're not doing politics right now. | |
| Really? | |
| A theater? | |
| First of all, all art is political. | |
| All art. | |
| Even if you're someone who says, well, I don't talk about politics in my act. | |
| That's a political decision. | |
| So what you're doing is you have a platform to talk about the status quo and you've chosen not to. | |
| So you are tacitly endorsing the status. | |
| If you went up in 1934 Germany and you talked about dating, that is a political act because you're not opposing the Nazi regime. | |
| So do you understand how you can't get away from it? | |
| You can't get away from being political. | |
| This is why they're canceling Andrew because of this shit. | |
| And that thing of like, you have to be in our paradigm no matter what. | |
| Okay, fine. | |
| Maybe it is political, but I got a right to do whatever the fuck I want. | |
| I don't have to confront shit if I don't want. | |
| I might want to. | |
| If you fuck with me, then fuck you. | |
| That's always been my policy. | |
| So that thing, that thing, and this is where the left sucks ass. | |
| This is why I always hated leftists before Barry, it in your show, is this shit where, you know, sometimes I got to work all day. | |
| People who are going to work all day and they want to be entertained. | |
| They don't want to deal with the nightmare going on outside. | |
| And always there's people that want to exercise their power. | |
| No, there's no escape from thinking about what I want you to think about. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, but you're right. | |
| It is a political act. | |
| But when people get this argument, they always leave out the part. | |
| You got a right to any fucking political act you want here, motherfucker, unless you're a fascist. | |
| So, you know, unless they're fascist, that's why they don't want you having a right to. | |
| Well, wokeness is very authoritarian. | |
| As we just talked about in our last segment. | |
| No. | |
| They get conflated because people don't know politics. | |
| So they go, I'm not political. | |
| So the Den. | |
| They don't understand that when you say it's political. | |
| So the Den, which is a venue I'd still like to play. | |
| It's a great venue. | |
| My friends, a lot of my friends play it who are, by the way, just as controversial as me, except they don't know about it yet. | |
| The Den, this is their mission statement. | |
| It says, the Den Theater believes in the power of human connection. | |
| Our mission is to bring artists and audiences together in the spirit of respect, empathy, and community. | |
| Okay. | |
| We are a center for entertainment and artistic expression, providing a warm and diverse environment where everyone feels welcome. | |
| Well, no, you don't. | |
| No, not everyone. | |
| I wasn't welcome there. | |
| My audience isn't welcome there. | |
| The people who go against the status quo, who question COVID, who debunked Russia Gate, who told the truth about Ukraine war, they're not welcome there. | |
| Why is that? | |
| Because so when you use words like everyone, you mean everyone who thinks like us. | |
| That's what you mean by everyone. | |
| By the way, they gather and play. | |
| Grab together, play, creative. | |
| Occult coloring books is what I'm imagining. | |
| A bunch of like, you know. | |
| That's a really long way of saying that they want their show calendar to look like MSNBC. | |
| But intercultural development statement, acknowledging that theater is inherently social and political. | |
| So if you already acknowledge that theater is inherently political, what do you mean you're not doing politics right now? | |
| Because that's what I was told. | |
| I thought this was Schultz's spot. | |
| This is the one that's being political. | |
| This is me. | |
| This is not BAM. | |
| This is me. | |
| This is the one I want. | |
| I still want to play there in Chicago. | |
| When I go back to Chicago, I still, I like play. | |
| I like Thalia Hall. | |
| They don't like my politics. | |
| Well, yeah, I remember I got canceled in Asheville after I got media smeared back in like years ago, and we saw what God did to them. | |
| So they go acknowledging that theater is inherently social and political. | |
| We understand that we have a responsibility to actively develop a culture that is accessible and safe for patrons and artists to gather, play creative. | |
| We strive to develop a workforce that is at least as diverse as our community and to reflect Chicago's full spectrum of talent in the work that we invite them that we invite to perform. | |
| We strive to develop a workforce that is at least as diverse as our community as long as they all agree and comply with us entirely. | |
| Isn't that an all-white area, by the way? | |
| I've been in Chicago. | |
| It's real starkly white or black in many places. | |
| So yes, this is on, I think it's on Milwaukee Avenue. | |
| I would say, majority white, we believe that art is stronger and more authentic when we welcome all voices from diverse backgrounds to contribute to the narrative. | |
| No, I don't think you do. | |
| I don't think they even understand what they're saying. | |
| I don't think you do because obviously my brand of politics, which by the way, is the actual left. | |
| Wokeism is authoritarian and now it's censorious, which is fascistic. | |
| Okay, they know what they're saying. | |
| They just don't believe what they're saying. | |
| That's right. | |
| This is what's called, this is what is called a tactic. | |
| Back when I had some Chicago know-nothings lecturing me on Facebook in the day, they told me this stupid shit. | |
| So the things they're saying, the reason it's infuriating is because they're on purpose saying an inversion of what they think because it's a tactic. | |
| They're the lowest shit in the world. | |
| You should never play the theater. | |
| You should have them banned from Jimmy Dore is what I think. | |
| And anybody that engages in it, that's why when I that nothing club in Seattle that I'm not mad about, I just wanted to humiliate the chick that said that dumb email. | |
| And I showed her email. | |
| I didn't hide it to be professional. | |
| Because when Schultz brought out Live Nation, is Live Nation going to still do business with them? | |
| If I was Schultz and Live Nation still worked with them, I go, well, I'm not with you no more. | |
| Because somebody has to draw a line with this. | |
| That's why I love Tyler Fisher for having that lawsuit. | |
| Because a bunch of dumb punk liberals are not going to make any consequences for these people. | |
| And they should have them. | |
| They should permanently have a swastika carved in their head, like at the end of Inglorious Bastards. | |
| So they can't ever hide and pretend they didn't do this. | |
| Just like they do to trip people that voted for Trump. | |
| We strive to curate a community where diversity is not only hardwired into the fabric of our organization, but that actively aspires to achieve, here it is, Kurt, equity. | |
| Yeah, I can already see the chick with blue hair and a COVID mask type choosing the words carefully from how to lie about what I think class and try to. | |
| This shit's dying. | |
| So, I mean, it's fun to laugh at it now, but I'm no longer bewildered. | |
| Let me just go back to this where it says, we understand that we have a responsibility to actively develop a culture that is accessible and safe. | |
| What do you mean by safe? | |
| You mean like fire codes and wheelchair ramps? | |
| I don't think that's what they mean. | |
| They're talking about not having political perspectives that don't sound exactly like the voices in their head. | |
| Well, that could destroy society. | |
| If the voices in my head aren't in control, Jimmy. | |
| See, no, you're misunderstanding us. | |
| Here, I'll play Ding Bat who wrote this. | |
| Yeah, it's inherently social and political. | |
| So we get to vote and we vote that we don't want your politics here. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You see? | |
| Yeah. | |
| So the empty head, empty skulled twit that wrote this, they have an answer to every part of this. | |
| And it doesn't make sense or decide. | |
| It's the same as the old corporation can do what they want. | |
| It's just like. | |
| And so when they say, Kurt, when they say this, we strive to create a community where diversity is not only hardwired into the. | |
| So by diversity, they mean people who look different, not people who think different. | |
| Right. | |
| The thing that counts the least, what you look like on the outside. | |
| That's what this kind of woke shit is all about. | |
| Well, by the way, if you're a scientific materialist, what you look like on the outside is the most important. | |
| And that's what they are. | |
| You know, the historic materialism, which a lot of Marxists will tell you they are, which is one of the dumbest fucking things I ever heard in my life. | |
| That's why they're shallow. | |
| It makes them shallow and moronic. | |
| Because they believe in material completely. | |
| So here's the last paragraph I'll read to you from their mission statement. | |
| It says, We consider it a privilege to be part of the discussion in creating a more inclusive theater. | |
| Inclusive for who? | |
| No, you don't. | |
| We understand that this is a process and that we must be willing to listen to our community, accept our missteps, and always strive for growth and seen. | |
| So they've been protested. | |
| They've been protested before. | |
| That's what that means. | |
| That's what this means. | |
| They've been protested before because they booked somebody at their theater that some woke group of asswipes didn't like. | |
| They're probably so, yeah, someone they say, like some band and another band was jelly, and they're like, but their politics aren't good. | |
| I've seen a bunch of these people where like they're a thing. | |
| They have to look up your politics and where you grew up and shit because they accidentally like the wrong thing. | |
| I'm actually sitting at their lunch table. | |
| I'm actually an actual lefty. | |
| I'm actually anti-war. | |
| I'm for bodily autonomy. | |
| I'm for unions and working people. | |
| And I'm for bringing people together on class issues and economic issues and not dividing them through identity politics. | |
| So the Den's mission statement is all about stressing identity politics. | |
| They're actually, they're saying we're all about inclusive, inclusion, while blatantly doing the opposite. | |
| Yeah, the identity politics thing. | |
| This reminds me of when I used to be in a doomsday cult and I would get in theological arguments with people because we didn't believe in the holy trinity of the three-in-one God, which by the way is pagan as shit. | |
| There's nothing Christian about it. | |
| But also, who gives a shit? | |
| Like, I don't care if you believe God has three heads or not. | |
| I really don't. | |
| How do you act? | |
| What do you actually do? | |
| Your beliefs inside your head where I don't live, I don't, who gives a rat's ass? | |
| And now these people that look down on religion, now they have the same thing. | |
| Well, but your identity is the most important thing. | |
| There's no getting away from that. | |
| There's no getting out. | |
| There's nothing inside you that's more important than the thing. | |
| I mean, even you individually being a color doesn't matter as much as the group. | |
| If you're the color they would prefer to have there and you don't have the right politics, you might as well be Jimmy Doer. | |
| You understand? | |
| It's really like just this absolute religious horseshit thing for people that have no religion. | |
| And that's why they say they want to feel seen. | |
| I don't feel seen. | |
| Well, Carl Jung talks about this. | |
| Carl Jung talks about this in I think it's called an unexamined life. | |
| And he talks about how if you don't have a connection To the transcendent. | |
| If you don't have an experience, a first-hand experience of God, that you're going to invent one outside. | |
| And normally it's going to be look like this. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes, you invent it. | |
| It's original. | |
| You'll turn science. | |
| It's like people turn Fauci into a deity and they turn science into a religion that can't be questioned. | |
| Right. | |
| So people are too stupid to read about science will do that. | |
| Right. | |
| So that's. | |
| Are they doing to me? | |
| So a guy that reads a lot. | |
| So if you don't have an experience of the transcendent, you are going to create that because your psyche has a need for it. | |
| This is all according to Carl Jung, the greatest psychologist in history. | |
| And he talks about it in that whole book. | |
| It's all about how people set this up externally through the state, through the government. | |
| They worship government, state, they worship woke ideology, science, things like that. | |
| So that's what this is. | |
| This sounds like a religion, and it sounds like people who've been protested before, and now they're actually afraid of politics. | |
| And now they're actually afraid of inclusion and including ideas that actually challenge them, that go against them. | |
| That's what that, it's the exact opposite of what they claim to be. | |
| It's a very cowardly stance to take that's contradictory and authoritarian, which is fascistic. | |
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| First up, as our guest today is Dr. Christian Parenti, a professor in the Department of Economics at John Jay College. | |
| I haven't kicked him out. | |
| Previously, as a journalist, he reported from all over the world for publications including The Nation, Fortune, the London Review of Books, and the New York Times. | |
| He's also the author of a number of books, including his latest Radical Hamilton: Economic Lessons from a Misunderstood Founder. | |
| Please welcome back to the show, Christian Parenti. | |
| Good to see you. | |
| Good to see you too, Jimmy. | |
| Thanks for the invitation. | |
| I'm surprised you're surprised that you haven't been canceled, is all I'm saying. | |
| I'm sure I've been canceled, but no, I didn't lose my job. | |
| Last time I was on here with you, it was because of COVID stuff. | |
| I actually didn't quite have tenure yet, but I managed to get 10 year. | |
| Really? | |
| Was to the right of the administration on COVID in terms of pushing vaccine mandates on the students and on as many staff as they could. | |
| And they even then ended up suing the custodians union and the security guards unions because those unions were like, well, our members can test or vax, whatever they want. | |
| But yeah, Manis survived that bottleneck. | |
| So it's great to be. | |
| They're bringing back mask mandates in California. | |
| I don't know if you saw that bit of news until the spring. | |
| But that's just for healthcare workers and all kinds of settings and stuff, places like that. | |
| So nursing homes and what have you. | |
| And again, this is all based on not one study. | |
| Not one study. | |
| Just to let people know, that's not based on there's no science behind it. | |
| Just like Dr. Fauci said when he was testifying in front of Congress and they asked him about the six-foot rule. | |
| And they said, where did that come from? | |
| He goes, it just appeared. | |
| He said, he said, not based on it. | |
| No, it just appeared. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I want to talk today quick about your article, The Cargo Cult of Woke. | |
| So I just want to, it's a fascinating look at woke culture. | |
| We've talked about it at this show a lot because it seems like it's being used to divide people. | |
| And let me just give a little quip from your article. | |
| How did the Anglophone, which I looked that up, that means English speaking for all the people in my audience. | |
| How did the English-speaking left become the cargo cult of woke, in which participants believe that social justice and perhaps even revolution can be achieved through the performance of safety-orientated rituals and political etiquette? | |
| So what, what do you let's just talk about that? | |
| How did that, how did the left become the cargo cult of woke? | |
| And what do you mean by safety-orientated rituals and political etiquette? | |
| Well, I mean, wokeness is not just synonymous with identity politics. | |
| I think some people think that that's what it is, but identity politics, reductive identity politics are part of it. | |
| But woke subculture is this self-consciously left oppositional culture, which oddly, right, has spread even into corporate America. | |
| But, you know, if you're woke, you see yourself as changing the world. | |
| Its methodology is not some sort of horizontal struggle against political and economic elites, but very much a vertical struggle, but like a horizontal struggle against very often people of your own class, your co-workers, who violate certain cultural norms, certain norms of etiquette. | |
| They don't speak correctly. | |
| They don't, you know, they don't show pro they don't use the right pronouns or politically. | |
| Pronouns, land acknowledgements, these kinds of things, right? | |
| And the belief behind all this is that you're going to actually totally transform social reality with this. | |
| It also has at its heart a very intense concern with psychological well-being. | |
| So it's rooted in that whole post-World War II psychological turn that becomes really pervasive in the 60s and 70s. | |
| And yeah, I mean, that's what Woke is. | |
| I mean, what it does is it divides the working class. | |
| It obscures the real power relations in the society, which are fundamentally those of a super rich owning class that calls the shots within the economy and allied to them, but also somewhat distinct from that, | |
| a super powerful state apparatus with at its heart totally unaccountable secret intelligence entities, services that aren't just involved in gathering intelligence on foreign wars for bombing runs, et cetera. | |
| But we have well-documented, have since the 50s been involved in nudging and coaxing and participating in trying to shape indirectly and gently domestic political culture. | |
| And crucial, a kind of crucial connective tissue in all of this is the philanthropic foundation scene, because that's where the capitalist elites, the ruling class, the ultra-rich convert their wealth, their personal wealth into political power, not only, you know, through, you know, they also do it through donations to politicians, but in a more kind of cultural fashion, foundations play a very important role in our society. | |
| And the U.S. left is increasingly shaped by and beholden to foundations. | |
| And to some extent, that's a very old relationship. | |
| Foundations helped fund political movements prior to World War II. | |
| You know, but not that much. | |
| You know, you look at the politics of the 1920s and 30s, the role of the foundations was not that large. | |
| The foundations in those days tended to try and legitimize capitalist wealth by building libraries and symphony orchestras and stuff like that. | |
| But in W.E.B. Du Bois, his struggle with Booker T. Washington, Washington got foundation funding, but it wasn't decisive. | |
| After the war, the CIA starts reaching out to and collaborating with, and also the foundations actually reach out to the CIA. | |
| A relationship develops in the late 40s and 50s around managing the left, because it becomes clear to the military and intelligence elites in Europe that they cannot get rid of the European left. | |
| The Communist Party is very, very strong in Italy, very, very strong in France, all over Europe. | |
| Communists and socialists are strong. | |
| The Soviet Union, for all of its faults and authoritarian features, has global goodwill from people because it has done most of the fighting against Nazism. | |
| And it becomes clear to the American policy elite, particularly in the foreign policy establishment, that you're going to have to manage the left. | |
| The left is going to be a chronic problem that you never get rid of. | |
| So they start trying to nurture. | |
| Well, they're, of course, repressing the communist left, but they also try to nurture what they call a non-communist left. | |
| And this was so open and common in the 50s and 60s that they just called it the NCL, the non-communist left, also known as the compatible left. | |
| I should say a lot of this is not in the cargo cult of woke, which is in Catalyst magazine, but that grew too large. | |
| And so there's a second half of it that's forthcoming, maybe in Catalyst, maybe somewhere else. | |
| So that's where this relationship between the foundations and the left first begins. | |
| And so the foundations fund left-wing politics of all sorts. | |
| And of course, they don't fund the kinds of groups that demand redistribution. | |
| And if they do fund them, they tend to bureaucratize them and misdirect them. | |
| And they're looking for other themes through which everyday people's resentments and legitimate concerns about the inequality and the suffering in this society can be channeled. | |
| And so what you're saying is emerges as this kind of constellation of issues that replaces class politics. | |
| That's it. | |
| So that's the part. | |
| So some of the foundations, can you name some of the foundations? | |
| You mean like the Rockefeller Foundation, foundations like that? | |
| Yeah, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller, Ford. | |
| I mean, the Ford Foundation is enormous. | |
| Catherine Ferguson is the author of a book called Top Down. | |
| During the 50s, the Ford Foundation becomes very, very, sorry, the 60s becomes very, very political. | |
| McGeorge Bundy, who is National Security Advisor to Kennedy and then Johnson, I think maybe not. | |
| Maybe it's Justin Johnson. | |
| He leaves the administration and goes to head Ford. | |
| And this is in response to, right, the Civil Rights Movement has been successful. | |
| They've got the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Acts in 64, 65. | |
| Now the Black Power Movement is gaining momentum and that has much more of a class politics to it. | |
| Ford becomes obsessed with investing in not just African-American social movements, but urban social movements in the North in general and steering them towards culture, right? | |
| It's all about people are pissed off in the inner city because they're suffering under slum lords, rising unemployment, et cetera, et cetera, poorly funded services. | |
| And so you can either, as an elite, deny this or speak to it and then double out more money and potentially lose lots of wealth and status or speak to it and divert people. | |
| So what Ford was all about was sort of acknowledging the suffering of black people and then steering it all into culture. | |
| They're really into theater and all this stuff. | |
| This is not to say that like, okay, any kind of politics of representation and race are wrong or bad. | |
| No, not at all. | |
| They're real and they're actually important. | |
| But they can also be and have been and were used as diversions. | |
| So don't think about slum lords. | |
| Don't think about the redistribution of wealth. | |
| Like get involved in a theater program that's designed to make you feel good about being black. | |
| Never mind the fact that your neighborhood is a place where the city refuses to clean up the trash as often as it does in wealthier neighborhoods. | |
| So, I mean, that's a kind of archetypal example of a massive, and Ford was the biggest. | |
| It might still be the biggest of the philanthropic foundations. | |
| And it gets heavily involved in funding left political movements. | |
| And so, you know, out of this comes all the tropes of wokeness. | |
| So you're saying that this is kind of stunning, that woke culture seems to me a modern-day invention, but you're saying it goes back to after the World War II and the intelligence communities and the combined with the foundations like Ford Foundation, Rockefeller, and so on. | |
| And they decided to try to decouple the left from organizing around economic issues and class issues and funnel them into cultural issues, which is what woke ideology and woke politics is all about. | |
| It's completely decoupled from class struggle and issues, and it's all about identity and wokeness. | |
| However, we're going to define that. | |
| I'll show the six ways that you define it in a minute. | |
| But so you're saying that this didn't start recently, that this goes way back and it comes from the top down. | |
| It comes from intelligence agencies, governments, and non-government organizations like the foundations. | |
| And it was recognized that this was necessary for the establishment to contain control decades and decades ago, a half a century ago. | |
| I mean, it goes even, I mean, if you really want to draw this logic back, you know, you can go all the way to Federalist 10, James Madison's Federalist 10. | |
| It's not a woke document, but in that document, James, which is, so it's written to justify and convince people to ratify the Constitution. | |
| And in Federalist 10, James Madison is speaking to elite concerns at the time. | |
| And they're thinking, like, wait a minute, if you allow anyone to vote, what's to stop them from taking all of our money, basically. | |
| And Madison says, well, that's a risk. | |
| However, it's only a risk if the vast majority of people who don't have property come together. | |
| However, there is naturally occurring all sorts of natural faction. | |
| You've got regions, you've got different religions, you've got all sorts of different divisions that afflict people, that this is a kind of natural condition in people. | |
| What Simone de Beauvoir later calls othering. | |
| It's sort of like this natural tendency. | |
| We got us and then who are they? | |
| And so Madison says the key to avoiding the dangers of political democracy turning into economic democracy is to lean into the existence of faction to try and create as much faction, which is just to say division in society as possible, so that the main source of faction that's most important, which is that between those who own and those who do not, right? | |
| But between those who control most of the property in society and those who are dependent on selling their labor, the risk is that those who are the working classes come together as a single group and then they can use political democracy in ways that would be dangerous for economic elites. | |
| And Madison's message in Federalist 10 is say the chances of that happening are not zero, but it's pretty hard to do because there's plenty of sources of faction. | |
| And the trick to essentially elite class rule within a democracy is to just continually turn up the volume on faction. | |
| Just keep faction developing. | |
| You want as much faction as possible. | |
| And this can even be invigorating and a form of rule and can create all sorts of innovations. | |
| Who knows what can happen? | |
| That's where you want the social discontent to go. | |
| So, I mean, that logic is very old. | |
| Divide et impera, divide and rule. | |
| So that's what's picked up. | |
| And in the post-war era, kind of emerges into wokeness. | |
| And I think that the role of the foundations and the intelligence services are important because it's the intelligence services that are dealing with the fact that it starts in Europe, but then it's out throughout the global south. | |
| You realize you're never going to get rid of opposition in a class society. | |
| You're never going to have workers who are exploited and working very, very hard and not making enough to survive. | |
| They're never going to be happy with that, right? | |
| So there's always going to be resentment and you just have to live with it. | |
| You're going to have to find ways to manage it and channel it into irrelevant, safe distractions. | |
| So, you know, that's what woke comes out of. | |
| And it's not like all of these components in woke are preconceived as like, oh, we're engineering woke. | |
| You know, we're here in like the late 40s, early 50s, engineering this thing that by the year 2000 will be understood as woke. | |
| No, it's like, you know, they're nudging, they're intervening, they're responding to conditions as they develop. | |
| I mean, to some extent, the turn to foundations, though it's old and begins in earnest after World War II, it really takes off after the late 70s when there were all these exposés, the church committee, the Pike Committee, all these kinds of things that show, that reveal the existence of stuff like Operation Chaos, which was basically illegal, CIA involvement in American politics. | |
| They're not chartered to do that. | |
| They're supposed to be focused abroad, right? | |
| And in response to that, you know, little bit of a crisis, much more of the kind of political influence operations just goes off book. | |
| That's when the National Endowment for Democracy is invented. | |
| And So the CIA could do their work, their dirty work under the guise of democracy. | |
| Much more openly where it's just like, yeah, this is the this is the National Endowment for Democracy, and this is what they do. | |
| What are you going to do about it? | |
| Yeah, they fund opposition groups all over the world. | |
| I don't know if you saw Kamala Harris had an interview with Brett Bayer, and it didn't go well. | |
| But there was what's funny was they all, a lot of the news organizations described it exactly the same. | |
| Kabla's testy interview with Fox News has the mainstream media all repeating the same line. | |
| This is from James Lee. | |
| There's obviously something going on here. | |
| So I dug deeper, and what I found is maybe not the conspiracy you expect, but perhaps even worse. | |
| So let's watch this. | |
| What is going on here? | |
| Yesterday, Kamala Harris had a big interview on Fox News. | |
| And the mainstream media coverage looks very sus. | |
| Essentially, the same take across multiple outlets. | |
| By the way, for them saying that Kamala Harris's interview was testy, that's sexist because that's based on testicles. | |
| Oh. | |
| And I can't say the other word that goes there, or else I'll be demonetized. | |
| But anyway, there you go. | |
| Using the word testy. | |
| Testy. | |
| Kamala Harris sparrows in Fox News Anchor in testy interview. | |
| Kamala Harris Defends Economic Plan in testy Fox News interview. | |
| Look at that. | |
| Testy, testy, testy. | |
| Testy. | |
| Jack Ramaswamy says, never seen the word testy used so ubiquitously at the same time. | |
| The media's level of coordination, even in their choice of language, makes one wonder how free our free press really is. | |
| So today, we're going to try to figure out what's really going on here. | |
| Is it the CIA Operation Mockingbird? | |
| Could be, right? | |
| Large-scale intelligence operation infiltrating media organizations for propaganda purposes. | |
| Could very well be. | |
| A couple of fun quotes. | |
| You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl for a couple hundred dollars a month. | |
| And I was a CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor of the Washington Post. | |
| The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in major media. | |
| William Colby, former CIA director. | |
| There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. | |
| You don't need to manipulate Time Magazine, for example, because there are central intelligence agency people at the management level. | |
| William B. Bader, former CIA officer. | |
| Now, supposedly that program was halted decades ago, but some say that it is still very much alive today. | |
| I mean, just look up Catherine Marr. | |
| She is the head of NPR and just take a look at some of her intelligence, alleged intelligence background, alleged. | |
| Now, there also could be another possibility, I think, more probable. | |
| Some would say less insidious, but I actually think it's way, way worse, which is this. | |
| News agencies like the Associated Press, Reuters, and Agence France-Presse, the AFP, act as intermediaries between campaign and media outlets by collecting and distributing news to media outlets. | |
| So basically, the Kamala campaign can draft an article, send it into AP, use these exact words, right? | |
| The exact framing that they want, a testy exchange with Fox News, and AP will distribute this to everybody else. | |
| And most of the time, the results are like this: they will just take almost verbatim what the initial PR release is and maybe edit it a little bit. | |
| But this is why you get this kind of repetitive language. | |
| So is that better or worse than the CIA controlling journalists? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Might be, I mean, I think it might be worse because that means that journalists are just willing to parrot whatever the campaign wants them to parrot. | |
| Because at the end of the day, they all want that access. | |
| So with that, I will close with the wise words of Noam Chomsky, who said any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media. | |
| Hitler did. | |
| Hey, this is like a well-known thing that nobody does any reporting. | |
| They just buy stories. | |
| There's like all the stories on all the major networks. | |
| They're buying from AP. | |
| And where he's like, it's either or, no, it's not either or. | |
| CIA, who do you think is running AP? | |
| It's called a cutout. | |
| It's bold. | |
| It's bold. | |
| The reason it's like that is because the CIA, that's why they can say, we stopped doing that. | |
| Get it? | |
| So now they're not directly doing it like they used to. | |
| Just like the National Endowment for Democracy. | |
| They can say, no, it's National Endowment for Democracy doing it, not the CIA. | |
| That's what cut it. | |
| When I first heard the term cutout, Aaron Mate told me what it meant. | |
| I had never heard of it. | |
| But that's so we can say, no, we don't pay them to do that. | |
| We pay a guy to pay a guy to do that. | |
| And they're all trained monkeys that just do whatever we tell, you know, whatever we hand them. | |
| Like, that's why you're like, oh, what are they? | |
| A CIA agent? | |
| No, these morons aren't even in on it. | |
| They're stenographers and like, you know, actors and dipshits. | |
| And $100 a month, yeah, they don't pay them shit. | |
| Most of them have to be rich to get into it now because it doesn't really pay. | |
| That's why only rich twits like your Taylor, what's her names, could be at the Washington Post. | |
| Yeah, you came from a good family and went to Columbia for journalism. | |
| And it's okay. | |
| You got all these crushing school debt because you're rich anyway. | |
| So you could do an internship, right? | |
| Not get paid. | |
| Then you get paid too little. | |
| Or my girlfriend used to work at the Getty. | |
| All these maniacs still wearing masks. | |
| They're all rich kids and they're deathly afraid of getting their parents sick because they're like, my parents have to show devotion to their rich parents, you know, because they're losers that work at this Getty Museum and haven't done anything. | |
| So they overplay how concerned they are about their elderly folks. | |
| It's like, it's so simple to make this happen. | |
| And Dom Chomsky's right. | |
| He said that. | |
| And also he said, there's nothing more further with JFK you need to look into. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So here's what, remember what Orphe said? | |
| Here's a similar thing that happened. | |
| Watch this. | |
| This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. | |
| He is sharp, intensely probing, and detail-oriented and focused. | |
| For example, we have a thousand trillionaires in America, not even billionaires in America. | |
| This is a man who is sharp, who is on top of his game, who knows what's going on. | |
| He's smart. | |
| He's on his game. | |
| His mental acuity is great. | |
| This is a very sharp president. | |
| And the people that I've talked to say he's as sharp as a tack. | |
| He's fine. | |
| They say he's sharp. | |
| There's not a problem. | |
| He was sharp. | |
| He was sharper than anyone I've spoken to. | |
| The president is sharp and he is tireless. | |
| He is sharp, as sharp as ever. | |
| And he's fine. | |
| All this right-wing propaganda that his mental acuity has declined is wrong. | |
| His brain is good. | |
| He's still great. | |
| He is sharp in meetings. | |
| I believe the people who say that behind closed doors, Joe Biden remains sharp in meetings. | |
| Joe Biden is sharp. | |
| He's sharp. | |
| He's fit. | |
| There is nothing to these challenges, these suggestions that somehow he's not sharp. | |
| He's sharp as a tech. | |
| Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. | |
| Look, if Jesus, we finally beat Medicare. | |
| Thank you, President Biden. | |
| President Trump. | |
| He's right. | |
| He did beat Medicaid, beat it to death. | |
| He actually, Joe Biden is sharper and has more mental acuity than Donald Trump, because more people believe that actually Joe Biden's mental acuity is better than Donald Trump. | |
| I mean, he's sharp. | |
| He's funny. | |
| He's sharp as attack. | |
| Kamala Harris says he is up to this task. | |
| He's sharp as attack and he's smart. | |
| He's energetic. | |
| One of the themes this election cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead. | |
| And so everyone is seizing upon this. | |
| And it is a classic disinformation tactic. | |
| If you edit it in such a way, you can make it appear that he fits this narrative, that he is slow, that he is wandering off. | |
| I got my handicap, which when I was vice president, down to a six. | |
| And by the way, I told you before, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag. | |
| Think you can do it? | |
| That's the biggest lie that he's. | |
| He's a six-handicap of all. | |
| I was an eight-handicap. | |
| President Biden has proven himself to have a strong memory. | |
| He has a great memory. | |
| His mind is just as quick as that. | |
| He is sharp and he's sharpened on top of him. | |
| President Biden, he's sharp. | |
| He's focused. | |
| He's bright. | |
| The president is sharp as attack. | |
| He's as sharp as attack, as in good for holding a postcard to a wall. | |
| Anyway, I know what I sometimes, when I personally, when I accidentally sit on attack, I laugh for two weeks. | |
| Anyway, we could stop it there. | |
| That's an amazing comment. | |
| He's still better than Kamala. | |
| You know what? | |
| I'm happy after watching this video. | |
| And after Kamala, I feel drained. | |
| I want to take a nap. | |
| He's better than Kamala. | |
| And is it basically how they all use the exact same words? | |
| What? | |
| He's sharp. | |
| He's sharp and he's focused. | |
| He's sharp as attack. | |
| Behind closed doors, he's sharp as attack. | |
| It's hypnosis. | |
| And so that's why you hear people repeat that to you verbatim. | |
| They're being hypnotized. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's the whole reason. | |
| It says like ad cop. | |
| Look, you know how you get ad copy? | |
| You got to say their points. | |
| You hit these points for sure. | |
| It's like that, but times 11. | |
| And that's why people say that's Putin propaganda. | |
| We got to run to the terrorists run to the sound of the guns. | |
| We fight them there so we don't fight them here. | |
| Yes. | |
| Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. | |
| you So here is Donald Trump's greatest hit. | |
| So he went to the, there's a lot of great jokes. | |
| I think his best joke was he said, you know, I'm happy to be here. | |
| I'm happy to appear anywhere in New York City that's not accompanied by a subpoena. | |
| So I thought that was a great joke. | |
| But here's somebody put, I think the Vigilant Fox put this together his top five. | |
| I don't know who put this together, but I found it on Twitter. | |
| Here's his top five moments, jokes from last night. | |
| I used to think the Democrats were crazy for saying that men have periods. | |
| But then I met Tim Walz. | |
| Well, I better wrap up. | |
| I'll see you next time. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Well, I'd better wrap up because Mayor Adams told me earlier that I needed to make this one very quick, especially the city has reserved this room for a large group of illegal aliens coming in from Texas. | |
| there's a, Here's his number three top joke. | |
| Group called White Dudes for Harris. | |
| Have you seen this? | |
| White Dudes for Harris. | |
| Anybody know? | |
| Are some of you here? | |
| White Dudes for it doesn't sound like it. | |
| But I'm not worried. | |
| That's an ad lib. | |
| Doesn't it sound like that? | |
| But I'm not worried about them at all because their wives and their wives lovers are all voting for me. | |
| Someone wrote that for him. | |
| That's a good one, though. | |
| Yeah, I got that one. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A major issue of this race is child care, and Kamala has put forward a concept of a plan. | |
| A lot of people don't like it. | |
| The only piece of advice I would have for her in the event that she wins would be not to let her husband Doug anywhere near the nannies. | |
| Just give them all the... | |
| That's it. | |
| Good. | |
| That's a nasty one. | |
| That's a nasty one. | |
| Nasty one. | |
| Chuck Schumer is here looking. | |
| Now, this is my favorite of the night. | |
| This is my favorite. | |
| You know what? | |
| Chuck Schumer looks like he's like doing an impression of the hunchback of Notre Dame. | |
| I mean, like, just look at him. | |
| He's like hunched over the whole time. | |
| But at least he's laughing. | |
| I'll give it to him. | |
| Watch this. | |
| Well, he told him not to go with the Kamala. | |
| You could tell he told him not to. | |
| You could follow the orders, you know? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Here we go. | |
| Schumer is here looking very glum. | |
| This dude looks glum. | |
| It looks glum. | |
| But look on the bright side, Chuck, considering how woke your party has become. | |
| If Kamala loses, you still have a chance to become the first woman president. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Thank you. | |
| That was funny. | |
| Those were all funny. | |
| Those were funny. | |
| And Kamala, big mistake not showing up. | |
| It makes her look weak. | |
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| That's it for this week. | |
| You be the best you can be, and I'll keep being me. |
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