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Aug. 6, 2024 - Jimmy Dore Show
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This is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, this is J.D. Vance.
Well, hello, Senator Vance.
Thanks for calling.
What can we do for you?
Well, Jimmy, I just wanted to call your show and talk to your listeners and continue to spread the message of the Trump Vance 2024 campaign, you know.
Ha, ha, ha, ha!
*laughter*
Hi, everybody.
Sure, yeah.
What is that message exactly?
Well, we're kind of figuring that out as we go, you know, just really listening to the voters.
Yeah.
More specifically, how loud they cheer at various irresponsible incendiary comments we make during rallies.
I see.
So, yeah, our platform is literally being crowdsourced by seeing what sort of dog whistles people respond to most readily.
But one thing our message is definitely not is anything resembling the radical left in this country and the current state of the Democrat Party.
Okay, can you elaborate?
Sure.
Jimmy, what the left is saying today just doesn't resonate with regular Americans.
You know, they're just weird.
Oh, like the stuff that they say is weird.
It is, like, not having kids.
Can you imagine a political party telling Americans not to have children?
I don't recall Democrats saying that exactly.
Well, when I claim that they do in rallies and stuff, people boo.
They yell boo.
Well, okay, then, I guess.
And look at what they attack me for.
Look at what the media is trying to do to J.D. Vance as we speak.
All these clips of me talking about crazy cat ladies and whatnot.
I'm sorry, but that's what regular Americans think about people who don't have kids, you know.
Regular Americans do not think that childless people are, quote, sociopaths, as you have said.
Well, the regular Americans I talk to do.
They do think that, you know.
Did it ever occur to you that you may not be talking to regular Americans?
Jimmy, I'm sorry, but that's sort of my whole thing.
Yeah.
Hello, actual regular American here.
So I get to say what regular American even is, and then by extension, what weird American is.
And Democrats are weird.
PLFs are weird.
People without kids are people without kids are weird.
That guy over there is weird.
Hey, you know what?
I'm buried and I don't have kids.
Am I weird?
Am I a sociopath?
Are you going to vote for us?
No.
Then, yeah, you're weird.
That's so weird to me being childless.
I can't imagine, like, what's even the point of life, you know?
Who do you blame things on?
Who do you subconsciously try to make as miserable as you were made to be when you were young?
If you didn't father children, how do you prove to your Indian wife that you were masculine enough?
I guess to answer your question, the point of life is for it to be whatever my wife and I decide to make it.
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Obviously, Senator, your position on Trump has changed drastically over the years, right?
Not really.
In 2015, you said insulting things about him, and now you're his running mate.
Oh, have you never changed your mind?
Have you never evolved?
Sure, but college friends of yours have come forward and said your current beliefs don't resemble at all the J.D. Vance they used to know, that you seem to have altered your stances for politically expedient reasons.
Jimmy, I've been writing online for many years.
You can go back and look at my work and see that I've remained pretty consistent.
I've always been this J.D. Vance that you're talking to now from the heartland, a regular guy, you know, with a traditional outlook on life and masculine enough for an Asian woman.
Like, I can literally grow a beard.
Okay.
Well, Google J.D. Vance 2008 and see what comes up.
Well, don't Google that.
Look under J.D. Hamill.
Oh, did you use a pen name?
No, that was my name back then.
That's your birth name?
No.
What?
I'm basically on my fourth name.
Did you know that?
Could you clear this up, please?
Oh, my God.
I'm so tired of having to explain this.
I was born James Donald Bowman.
What?
Then my mom remarried a guy named Hamill.
So I changed my name to James David Hamill.
I figured they're going in there anyway.
Might as well switch out the middle name too, get a new one for free.
Then I went by J.D. Hamill.
Then in 2013, I changed my last name to Vance in honor of my Mima.
Like, what is weird about this?
What is a Mima?
You would probably say grandmother.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
And then more recently, I took the periods out of JD.
So now it's not JD Vance.
It's J.D. Vance.
Subtle change, but I like it.
My onomastic surgeon did a great job.
I'm sorry.
You're what?
Onomastic surgeon.
It's like a plastic surgeon, but for your name.
My guy is Dr. John Cougar Medal and Camp.
He's been with me for every name change.
And with J.D. Vance, we both agree that we really made my name exemplify and reflect who I am on the inside.
This is really weird.
You're weird.
It's totally normal.
Everyone does this.
Oh, my.
Says who?
Dr. Mellen Camp, Nikki Haley, others.
Yeah, right.
Okay, Jimmy.
Or should I say James?
Jimmy is a nick.
Jimmy is a nickname for James, and literally everybody knows that.
Oh, okay.
Sure.
It's fine if a liberal does it, but God forbid a God-fearing man from Appalachia decides to tweak his own moniker.
Only the fancy people get to do that, I guess.
Well, I think I'm getting a handle on your pandering ways.
Good to see.
I look forward to watching how your campaign goes.
And if your name changes even again, can you call back?
Can I?
Sure.
Awesome.
I love attention.
Thanks for giving it to me.
All my best to you and your fans from me.
Yours truly, J.D. Pritzker.
What?
He he he he he.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit.
We can't afford this.
Watch and see as a jack dog.
Comedium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on.
It's the Jimmy Tor show.
So we have our special guest, one of my favorite, if not favorite, Twitter accounts with us, Ian Carroll.
He's a citizen journalist, online educator, and a small town burger joint enthusiast whose motto is follow the money, seek the truth, and do your own research.
Don't do your own research.
You're white supremacist.
Anyway, he also hosts the online show Cancel This, and his TikTok currently boasts more than 1.6 million followers.
Welcome to the show, Ian Carroll.
How are you?
Thanks, Jimmy.
Good to talk to you, man.
Nice to be in here.
How have you not been kicked off a tip?
I got banned from TikTok already.
Dude, I do not know.
I'm hovering at two strikes, but I very like strategically entered with very basic, like BlackRock conspiracy content that is totally allowed.
And I grew the platform relatively big before I started to talk about people like the CIA and Jeffrey Epstein.
So I think I gamed the system just barely.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Okay.
So you and I, I feel very simpatico with you and your point of view on things.
And you have done deep dives.
He'll go in and do these explainer videos that he posts right to Twitter because I don't go to any other social media except Twitter.
It's the only one I can stand.
And I don't even know how Instagram works.
I don't know why people go there.
I don't understand it.
It doesn't.
And Facebook is just.
Anyway.
So anyway, I saw you tweeted this out, this video.
And this is exactly, I've lived through this.
And so I've been saying similar sentiments like this.
I'll make a joke in my act that, you know, I'm for freedom of speech.
I'm for bodily autonomy.
I'm anti-war.
And so, you know, I'm a right-winger.
Anyway, so here we go.
And you're basically saying that you're lamenting the loss of the Democratic Party's adherence to those values.
And let's just listen.
Because the Democratic Party is currently the CIA party, okay?
If you aren't aware of this, open your eyes.
So I just want to, I'm sorry, I have to stop it already.
But when I still worked at the Young Turks, right after Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump, the Young Turks, Jenk Uger, and everybody else who works there except me, was repeating CIA and FBI talking points uncritically about Donald Trump and Russia and RussiaGate and Julian Assange.
They just are not and just uncritical, just not one skepticism of anything they would say.
Oh, the Russians hacked into 31 databases of our election.
And I'm like, that's not, how do you know that?
The FBI said so.
Yet they're liars.
And of course, it turned out they were lying about everything.
But as you just point out, the Democratic Party has become the party of the CIA and the FBI.
The intelligence.
They don't even hide it.
They don't even hide it.
They just repeat them.
I mean, look what Jenk Uger and Anna Kasparian did about Julian Assange.
They just repeated a bogus story about him being visited by Trump's campaign manager and that he was working for Trump.
And they said he couldn't be trusted.
They still have that video up on their channel.
Anyway, all right, I'll try not to stop it again.
I'm sorry.
Because the Democratic Party is currently the CIA party, okay?
If you aren't aware of this, open your eyes.
I am from there.
I am one of you guys.
And clearly, it has been co-opted.
I was once a liberal and I was once a Democrat.
And we used to believe in anti-war, you know, duh.
Anti-big corporations duh, you know, regulate the big corporations like big pharma, like big agriculture, like the military-industrial complex, and the banking sector.
You know, we used to believe in holding the powerful accountable, in freedom of speech, because that is essential to journalism.
And somehow, a whole bunch of people have been tricked into thinking that the Democratic Party now stands for.
Okay, I have to stop it there.
So those, I don't play the rest in a second.
But yes, how did this so this happened because of Trump?
That's what I blame us on.
We used to, you know, before COVID and before Trump got a hold of COVID, the people who were The most virulent saying you have to take a mandated experimental medical treatment used to be protesting GMOs.
Yep.
Right?
Neil, Neil, whatever his name is with Daryl Hanna.
What's his name?
Neil, the musician.
Neil, anyway, doesn't matter.
Neil Young.
Neil Young used to do.
Used to protest GMOs, and then he took his music off because Joe Biden, because Joe Rogan was saying sensible things about an experimental medical treatment.
So I think it happened because of Trump.
And Trump is the blanket excuse to become the Democrats have become warmongers.
Democrats have become uncritical of the intelligence community or big pharma or corporations or the oil or anything.
What do you say to that, Ian?
I would argue that Trump was when they pulled the major swap, but I think it started with Obama and it started with Obama and the banks, right?
Yeah.
Because everyone brought Obama.
And this is like, I grew up in this.
I was young.
I wasn't old enough to vote for Obama the first time in 2008.
So I also wasn't old enough to notice what was happening.
When you go back and look at it, you realize that Citibank gave him a list of people to put into his cabinet, and then he put them all into his cabinet and then bailed out all of his banking buddies that had gotten him there in the first place.
And that went totally under the Democrats' radar because he was such a powerful orator and like politician, really.
And so I think that Obama was the start of that walking veil that sort of sleepwalked the Democratic Party into whatever they wanted to say.
And then when they were presented with Trump as the opposition, that just gave them like free reign to do whatever they wanted to their people's minds because anything to stop Trump, right?
So I have to remind people because I'm older than you that Bill Clinton was no friend of the working man.
And Bill Clinton, when he became president, he could do things that the Republicans couldn't.
Like what, Jimmy?
Well, first of all, he got NAFTA passed, right?
Because George Bush I, Herbert Walker, could not get NAFTA passed.
But Bill Clinton came in and he gave cover to the blue Democrats in the South so they can then pass NAFTA, which cut the legs out from underneath the union movement for a generation, right?
Then he went on to gut welfare as he exploded the prison population.
He consolidated the media and then he deregulated Wall Street, which led to a crash of our economy within 10 years.
And he wanted to privatize Social Security, except that got stopped because of the BJ.
That's literally the truth.
All while flying around getting BJs from his buddy Jeffrey.
Both from his buddy Jeffrey's friends.
Yes.
And because of Monica Lewinsky, that came, that scandal broke, and that put the Kabash on the secret deal that he had with Newt Gingrich to privatize Social Security.
So when Bill Clinton became president, he went to Wall Street.
He went to the military industrial complex.
He went to big, he said, hey, we're open for business.
It's no longer, we're the parties of workers, which is why the workers have nowhere to go anymore.
And you see them going back to the Republican Party.
So I just want to remind people that it was Bill Clinton that actually started it.
And Barack Obama put it into overdrive for sure.
He didn't end any wars.
He expanded those wars.
He took up some two wars of seven.
He dropped more bombs than George Bush.
People don't know that, right?
And then, of course, he used the Espionage Act to prosecute journalists more than all the presidents combined before him.
So this idea that Donald Trump is a threat to our democracy, some kind of unique threat is bullshit because the people who actually prosecuted journalists was Barack Obama.
He's the one who started it, ramped it up.
And of course, Joe Biden just convicted him of a felony, Julian Assange, for doing journalism.
All right.
Sorry, throw it back to you.
I mean, I think you're exactly right.
And the more you learn about history and actually learn for yourself, not what you're told from the news, you realize that they're very good at juggling back and forth between both sides of the pendulum, right?
They need to get some stuff done that's easier to do from the right.
They'll give you a right guy for a while.
That's right.
That naturally makes us all want to swing back to the left.
They give you the left guy that's going to get the same things done from the other side of the aisle.
And so it's always policies for the club and it's never policies for us.
And they just keep, I mean, I would argue maybe since Kennedy got shot, that was probably the last time that we had a president that might have had us in mind.
100%.
Yeah.
Just did a deep dive into him.
That's actually what this clip is from, is from a video about the Kennedy assassination, drawing similarities to the attempted Trump assassination and looking at Kennedy and what it meant when he was killed for global politics and what he was trying to do versus what they did after they killed, well, after someone that we don't know who killed him.
So hold that thought because I do want to ask you about that and the similarities to the Trump.
But so I catch a lot of grief because I don't have the same kind of ire for the Republicans as I do for the Democrats.
I have more ire for the Democrats.
Why?
Because I was a Democrat my whole life and I never voted for a Republican.
I voted for Democrats, right?
And I got screwed over by Democrats.
They never came.
Republicans never came asking for my vote.
Guess who did?
Democrats, right?
And I gave them my vote and I helped lots of them get elected.
And then they cheated us, repeatedly lied to us and governed like because there is no difference.
We now know that we don't live in a democracy.
That's not hyperbole.
That was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago now, that we live in a bona fide oligarchy, which means your vote doesn't matter.
That the people whose vote does matter is the donor class, the people who control them.
And here's the difference.
And here's the rub.
So look, Eric Schmidt from Google is the big Democratic donor.
And then Peter Thiel's the big Republican donor.
They both work together.
They both work together.
So it is a unit party.
And so that's the weird.
So what you said is 100% true.
And they're only, and I've had arguments with people who are college-educated, smarty pants people who will, to their dying day, say the Democrats are better than the Republicans.
What do you say to that?
I mean, I would say that they should research the history of the CIA because who do both Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt both work with?
The CIA.
That's right.
I mean, like the CIA's job is to control elections, to control governments, to control the global situation so that it's pro-U.S.
And that inevitably from the start, I mean, it was founded by corporate lawyers and it has been doing the bidding of the corporate oligarchy ever since it was founded, whether that be overthrowing the government of Guatemala for United Fruit or, you know, having nothing to do with the coup in Ukraine in 2014.
And I'm not trying to say that the CIA is behind everything.
I'm just trying to say that that is a good representation and learning the history of the CIA is a really great way to learn what's going on behind the theater that we're all shown because they present us the news, which is co-opted by the CIA.
And that is to hide the way they're actually all just working for the corporate club, the CIA included.
The CIA is not some American intelligence agency.
It is a corporate fraud.
Well, the list of things that the CIA isn't involved in is much smaller than the list of things they are.
The Arab Spring, everybody thought that was some kind of organic uprising.
Of course it wasn't.
It was instituted by tons of cash by the CIA.
And that's how we got Libya.
That's how we got Syria, the Syrian war.
They've been trying to overthrow Syria for decades and decades.
Even Christine Umman Poor knew that in 2003 when she interviewed Assad saying, wow, they really want to get rid of it.
That was in 2003.
That was 10 years before the Arab Spring.
Okay.
So the Arab Spring was completely manufactured by the CIA, just like the Syria, just like the ISIS, just like the Al-Qaeda.
We invent all these things so we could have a boogeyman and we could, and we work with them whenever we want.
Let me play the rest of your video and then we'll get your commentary.
War at all costs.
Otherwise, you're going to kill democracy.
Don't question Pfizer or any big corporation because they have your best interest in mind as they pay for your advertising on your news stations.
Don't hold anyone accountable, least of all the banks post-2008 as Obama comes in and bails them all out.
The fuck happened to the Democratic Party.
It's about time we go back and take back the left.
Not even to mention that like now suddenly you can be pregnant and a man.
It's like science, we'll just edit science.
Let me remind you that science is built on questions.
The whole foundation of science is that anything scientific is replicable.
As in, if it's true, you can replicate that experiment and you'll get the same result.
And it's only through asking questions, forming hypotheses, and testing those hypotheses that we know what's real.
And anyone can read science.
Anyone can understand science and anyone can practice science.
And if you're not supposed to question the science, that's not science.
That's dogma.
That's corporate propaganda.
That is totalitarian bullshit shoved down your throat so hard you can't breathe.
And I don't mean like, I took a fuckload of fentanyl and I'm about to die, can't breathe.
I mean like open your fucking eyes, guys.
So my question to you is: why do you hate the LGBTQ?
And why are you a white supremacist?
After listening to that, that just that if you're questioning science, you're a white supremacist.
And if you don't, if you think a man cannot get pregnant, then you're deaf.
You know what's interesting about that point that you made?
Because now we are to accept that a man can become president pregnant because a man can transition and then get and have a vagina in a womb.
There's an emoji for it.
But they say having a, but they say having a vagina doesn't make you a woman.
But they are now currently saying that about a boxer in the Olympics, that that boxer is a woman because that boxer has a vagina.
They're using that argument, even though that boxer has an XY chromosome, which are supposed to be male chromosomes.
That's what I've always been taught.
Maybe they're changing that.
But XX chromosome, those are for the ladies.
And XY, that's for men.
But they're now saying, no, this boxer is a woman because this boxer has a vagina.
Well, what about the trans man who gets pregnant?
He has a vagina.
Doesn't that make him so they whenever, so go ahead.
If you want, you could speak to that.
I just want to.
Yeah, that one's super interesting.
That just broke.
And like, it's this whole thing on Twitter right now.
And I was doing a bunch of, I was trying to dig into it and trying to like address the nuance too, because I try not like sometimes it's just bullshit and it's just like clearly bullshit.
And when there is nuance, I try to address it so that it's not just, so you're not just, you know, plastering over it.
And I'm not clear yet whether, so I think that the claim, the mainstream claim is that she has Swire syndrome, S-W-Y-E-R, which is where you have an XY chromosome, but there's like something wrong with your endocrine system.
And so you present as a female from birth and you're born with a vagina and a womb and ovaries and everything, despite having an XY chromosome.
But if that's true, if she has Swire syndrome and an XY chromosome, then my understanding on very like, it's very easy to do the research that Swire syndrome means that your hormone system doesn't work properly from birth.
And so you're on replacement hormones your whole life.
And so then the other part of the reporting is that she failed a testosterone, a test for having really high testosterone last year and was disqualified from the other boxing association.
And so those two things do not line up because if you have Swire syndrome, you don't have elevated testosterone unless you're taking it exogenously.
And if you do have elevated testosterone and you're not taking testosterone exogenously, then you can't have Swire syndrome because you're not able to produce hormones yourself.
And so there's this like mismatch in this story that seems to imply that either they're lying about Swire syndrome or she has Swire syndrome and that's legit, but then she's taking exogenous testosterone in order to get really high testosterone, which is also not allowed.
So I'm not clear on what's happening yet, but regardless of what is happening, it's really weird and it's not good.
And it's yeah, I understand that there are there is nuance to that story.
I'm just, I'm just zeroing in on people making the argument that that boxer has a vagina, so she's a woman.
Well, obviously.
Suddenly they can define what a woman is.
but you've told me now for at least a couple of years that doesn't make you a woman.
So, but now I also understand that that boxer has testies, but they're internal.
So I don't know anything about her testies.
Okay, so I, again, I didn't want to make this a segment about that, so I'm not.
But I just the whole Olympics has been a total shit show.
And when you combine that with the reporting about their first lady, it gets pretty interesting.
You mean about the Candace Owen reporting about her first lady?
Well, Candace Owens was very strategic to report about the reporting that the French journalist did.
Yes.
Because she knows how this game is played.
Yes.
There were some French journalists that reported that the first lady of France was not born a female.
That's the reporting.
That there's no photos of her before the age of 30, and that her brother is missing.
To me, that's the least weird part of that story.
The most weird part of that story is that I'm pretty sure she was 40 years old and she started dating a 16-year-old kid.
Am I wrong about that?
Yeah, her student.
Her student.
I don't know if it was exactly 40, but yeah, she was a full-blown adult teacher, man or woman.
And yeah, started teaching or dating her.
She left her family.
She left her alleged husband and children in order to start dating a child.
How old is Macron president of France?
So here's his age.
I'll get his age and her age.
Why wouldn't they just say it?
Why would they make me read paragraphs?
Okay, so he was born in 19, he's 46.
So he's 46.
How old is Macron's wife?
Bridget Macron.
That's her name.
Yeah.
So he's 46.
And there's a 25-year difference, 25-year age gap.
So they got together when he was 14, 15, or 16.
So that would make her.
So if he's 46.
She's 71.
You know, a lot of dudes who are 46.
Anyway, I don't know any.
That's the only one who are into 71-year-old ladies.
That's what we call a pedophile.
Her.
So her.
So she was 20.
What would I say?
25-year difference?
26-year 26 years older than him when they met.
So, wow.
So she was his high school teacher, right?
Yeah, that would be like me, a 31-year-old man, starting to date my eight-year-old student.
I mean, it's a little different if your student is in puberty, but it's still completely messed up.
So 16 is completely unacceptable.
According to what she said, she was like 40.
They met at age 40.
She met the 15-year-old man, Macron.
She was 40.
He was 15.
At La Providence High School, where she was a teacher.
That's worse than Jerry Seinfeld.
He was a student and classmate of her daughter.
That's worse.
Yeah, she had kids and a family.
And a brother.
That's the missing brother who we can't find.
He's allegedly still alive and just very private.
And everybody just look.
I know France has, you know, they're much more relaxed than not uptight about stuff like that, but come on.
Yeah, maybe they should not be so relaxed about it.
If that was a 40-year-old dude with a 15-year-old girl, I think some people would raise an eyebrow about it.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of people today, especially Americans, don't realize the ongoing imperial nature of France and their sort of African empire.
France has had dominion over all of like sub-Saharan North Africa for decades and decades through their monetary control.
And I think a lot of Americans think France is just France.
Yeah.
France has still been an empire for a long time and it's just now crumbling.
Africa is breaking free of France.
So there's a lot more to France than most people realize.
It's a lot more powerful of a nation behind the scenes than Americans are informed about.
Yeah, we covered a little bit about that.
And yeah, they've had these exploitive financial deals with countries in Africa and countries in Africa are now ready to pushing back on that.
But yes, they're empire still.
So yeah, that's the that's what I've been trying to I've been trying to come to terms with that the people who I my whole life I've been aligned with politically are now turned into what I used to call right wing.
They've now they're pro-war, but now a lot of the right-wingers I know are against war.
So now I don't know even I think do you think the left-right paradigm means anything anymore?
Not really.
I mean, it should.
Words matter, but you're right that the roles have completely flipped.
Like, and I think that I hang out with, and I bet that you hang out with a lot of sort of like generally like right-wing identifying people, but they're kind of just center because there are all of these Republican voters out there that are also very pro-war and anything that the Republican Party says they're for it.
And so like there is capture on both sides of the political aisle, but I think that a lot of the voters that are behind Trump these days are a lot more anti-war, pro-free speech.
They're the kind of people that are just like more fun to hang out with.
Like I don't want to hang out with people that are going to, you know, that I'm going to have to censor my own thoughts around.
So that's why I used to like hanging out with people I thought were lefties because they were pro-feast free speech, anti-censorship.
And it was always the Christian right that wanted to censor lyrics and all that and movies and Playboy magazines and all that stuff.
So I was always for freedom of speech, anti-center.
So I wanted to hang out with those people.
I was always anti-war.
Pro-war people creeped me out.
And then I was always bodily autonomy, right?
So now when it came to COVID, all those people who were probably autonomy, my body, my choice, that all went out the window, right?
And now it was.
For the greater good.
Right.
It's for the greater good.
And now it's now it's your body, someone else's choice.
The government's choice.
The government, the government's choice.
And it's not even a medicine that has long-term studies.
It was an experimental medicine that they're wanting.
Experimental gene medicine.
Right.
I know that it's approved by the FDA.
And I know.
I know that it was safe and effective.
And YouTube will clearly put a note down below where you're informed about all the facts.
That's right.
I know it's.
Don't read RFK Jr.'s book about it.
Do whatever you do.
Don't do that.
Don't read about it.
So that's the, yeah, that's, and, but now that's all flipped.
So now I've, you, you find more people who vote who consider themselves conservative, who are for bodily autonomy, who are for anti-war, and who are for free speech.
It's the, it's the weirdest thing.
People, well, what do you like?
They go, what are you, a free speech absolutist?
Yes.
Yes.
The antidote to bad speech is more speech.
They make, they make it out like it's a bad thing.
The goddamn country is founded on free speech.
Yep.
But they do everything they can to try to disconnect us from the founding of the country, to try to make it feel like that's an outdated concept.
And I have a theory that they realized somewhere in the Bush Obama years, they realized that with the internet coming in, it's changing the nature of just society and civilization.
And at some point, it really looks like they flipped from thinking like it used to be that the right was more controllable by these sort of like deep statey actors because the right was more aligned with corporations and more aligned with it was just easier to manipulate the right.
And the left was so pro-free speech and anti-war that they were not pliable.
But I think at a certain point, they realized that the left, like inherent to liberal ideology, is this idea of the greater good.
The whole point of like left and liberal thinking is that we work together to accomplish more for the greater good through government versus like conservatives are like, no, leave me alone, do it the old way and like individual liberty.
And at a certain point, if you start to manipulate that concept of the greater good, you can get a lot done in the internet age because you can start to create group thinks.
You can start to create this like mass psychosis that will force people to take an experimental medication against their will for the greater good.
So you get the same kind of garbage that I've been getting for years now is again, like I said, that I don't, my, my mission here is to point out to people that there isn't a difference between the Democrats and Republicans and to pop that bubble of idea and to disabuse them of that idea that the Democrats work for someone different than the Republicans do.
I'm talking about the establishment Republicans and the establishment Democrats, right?
Now, I, and by, you know, you're talking about before, I have lots of lefties who come to my show like hippies.
So I have hip, I have hippies who come to my show.
I have worker organizers, union organizers come to my show.
I remember the hippies, I forget where I was.
I was maybe in Des Moines, and these hippies were like, what?
This is right when it started to happen.
They're like, what the hell happened to everybody?
We're supposed to be anti-war.
We're supposed to be skeptical of big pharma.
What the hell happened to these people?
And I was like, I'm with you.
I'm 100% with you.
So it's wild to watch the extreme, the lefties and righties come together and realize that they're being lied to by the same people.
And I just want to show this.
Here's the kind of pushback that you get when you tell the truth about the Democratic Party.
She says, it's obvious at this point that you're not a good faith actor.
Either you never were or you sold out.
Because of you did this rant, that rant where you just spelled out the truth that the Democrats are the CIA party.
They're not for bodily autonomy.
They're pro-war and they're for big pharma.
So after you did that, she called you a sellout.
You're not a good faith actor.
I get that.
That's actually a CIA plant.
They go, you started your following by exposing corruption across the board.
Now you're divisive and pretend only one party is the problem.
You don't even sound genuine anymore.
But she doesn't push back.
I got such a kick out of that comment.
She doesn't push back against any of the things that you said.
They just do that.
You're a Trumper.
That's what Cornell West did when he came on my show, by the way.
Cornell West, who revealed his lack of integrity.
Wow.
That's a bummer.
That was a super big bummer.
He called me a Trumper when I pointed out they're using the same RICO statute and the same grand jury to prosecute Donald Trump as they're using the same grand jury, the same RICO statute to prosecute stop cop city protesters.
And I go, so now you see the game that's being played.
And he said, sounds like you like Trump more than you're letting on.
So that was when I was done with him.
He was dead to me.
And now he goes on to with his stupid message of the Democrats are the lesser evil.
And then he does a rally in Harlem and he gets five white dudes to show up.
How's that working out for you, Cornell?
Who do you think was wrong in that argument?
Who do you think was right?
The right guy was me.
I was right.
I'll help you out because you can't figure that shit out.
I was right and you're wrong.
Okay.
Yeah.
The thing about this gal's comment, too, is that just to add context, like the what when I say that the Democrat Party is the CIA party, I'm not just guessing.
Like, do you remember Hunter Biden's laptop?
Yes.
The CIA got 51 CIA directors and agent, like all of the top brass of the intelligence community for the last 20 years.
They got them all to sign a letter saying, if you read the actual letter, it says in it, we have no evidence whatsoever that this laptop is Russian disinformation, but our experience in the Intel community makes us suspect that it could be.
So you should like, so trust us.
It's probably.
And so that letter was what gave the media their news cycle of top 51 top CIA analysts declare the laptop a hoax.
But they clearly said in it, they don't know.
They're just going to give you this soundbite so you can run with it.
But the people that signed that letter were people like John Brennan.
Like the first two names on the letter were people that perjured themselves on the stand for lying to us about the NSA spying activities, lying to us about Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghrave torture programs.
Like it was a bunch of certified liars from the CIA signing this document to basically get that laptop out of the election just before the election so that Biden could get elected.
It was very clearly them stepping in.
So instead of people like that, and I'm sure that she's a nice lady, but what I'm saying is what's mind-boggling to me is that you're not upset about the things that Ian just said in that video.
You're upset that somehow you feel like he's not at the same time saying something about another part of the uniparty.
Like what?
You're not upset that the CIA lied.
And now the CIA is lying at the behalf of the Democratic nominee.
That's what the say.
that doesn't make you go, huh?
What in the hell?
What?
That the CIA is on the side of the Democratic nominee for president and is doing this actively fighting against the Republican nominee.
And the reason why I think that is because Donald Trump didn't come up through the normal channels, right?
So they couldn't control him quite.
They could control him a little.
That's what RussiaGate was all about.
RussiaGate was trying to discredit him and diminish him so they could control him.
And that's exactly what Chuck Schumer said to Rachel Maddow: that Donald Trump shouldn't go against the intelligence community because if you do, they have six ways to Sunday to get back at you.
And what Chuck Schumer didn't realize he was saying, he was giving the game away, which is the game is that the CIA and the intelligence community doesn't work for the president, that the president actually has to make sure he keeps them happy.
It's not the other way around.
So the next question that Rachel Maddow should have asked was, well, then who does the CIA and the FBI work for, Chuck, if they don't work for the president?
That's the question.
And I'll tell you who the answer is.
The answer is they work for the donor class.
They work for the Reed Hoffmans and the Peter Thiels and the Eric Schmitz and the Jeff Bezos and the Bill Gates.
That's who the CIA work for.
The military industrial complex, the Rockefellers.
They don't work for the president.
There's a permanent state.
And instead of people being upset at that, they want to somehow say, why don't you hate Republicans more?
It's crazy that people can see that this is all corrupt, but then not realize that everything they've been fed about Donald Trump is coming from that media that is from the state apparatus.
And so they haven't unpacked how much they hate Trump and realize that you don't actually know anything about Trump because you've never viewed him with untainted eyes.
That's right.
When you view him with untainted eyes, there's plenty to not like about him.
He's no saint.
There's so much to not like about him.
But it's totally different than when you've just gotten your hatred for him from the media.
And you have a really interesting, similar take to me, I think, about Trump's rise in the like kind of blackmail circles and how he seems to be unblackmailed and like he doesn't party, doesn't drink.
And so he has this weird relationship with a lot of the sort of like blackmail world, which seems to indicate that they can't control him through blackmail.
So they've gone through all these other channels and tried all these other techniques.
Everything short of shooting him, though.
That was clearly Iran.
Yeah, that was clearly Iran.
Yeah.
Look no further into that.
So that's the next question.
Well, we have to jump to Rumble.
So let's jump to Rumble and we'll be right back in a few minutes.
Everybody jump over.
Give me one second.
We're almost ready to go to Rumble.
So, because that's the question to me, Ian.
It's like, so if there is a unit party, which there is, and the CIA controls both of them, which they do, do they not control Trump as much?
Because why would they?
The reason why we know why they did it to John F. Kennedy, they assassinated John F. Kennedy because he said he wanted to break up the CIA into a thousand pieces.
And he also wanted to keep Israel from getting a nuclear weapon.
Now, I've he was also about to get APAC to register as a foreign agent.
I let her, he sent them.
They'd been in contact for a while, and he sent the paperwork to them like two weeks before he got shot.
And then the week after he got shot, they sent a letter back saying, nah, it's cool.
We won't do that.
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Look this.
Estonia's Collis.
That's her name.
She's a fierce Russian critic.
Wow.
Finally.
Finally, a fierce Russian critic for once.
She is now the new European Union foreign policy chief.
And I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that she is so clumsily and evasively full of shit that I'd say she qualifies to be head of the Secret Service.
Hell, she could be head of the new Ghostbusters.
And why do I say that?
Watch this.
So she's their top, she's now the top diplomat, right?
So she's now the EU foreign policy chief.
And listen to what the European Union's foreign policy chief has to say about negotiating with a nuclear power to end a war.
Watch this.
To me, it's the question, why talk to him?
I mean, why?
She means Putin.
Why talk to Putin?
To me, it's the question, why talk to him?
I mean, why?
That's a good point.
Why should she talk to Putin, seeing as how she's not Ukrainian and also Ukraine isn't part of the European Union?
So it's really none of her fucking business, right?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Thank you.
Of course you, of course, you why negotiate with the nuclear power that's winning the war that it's in right now?
Why negotiate with them?
Boy, she's like the new Ursula Milfness or whatever that was they got rid of.
To me, it's the question, why talk to him?
I mean, why?
He's a war criminal.
I mean, I'm a lawyer by profession, and I looked up.
Yeah, you're all because you're all war criminals, so now you have something in common.
You guys really like each other if you gave each other a chance.
The definition of war crimes and genocide for that matter.
Whoa, don't get into depth.
She looked up the definition of war crimes and genocides.
Wow.
Hey, remember, Israel is ethnic at Enzinclay, the Azagay.
Hello?
Okay.
He is the willingness to get rid of part of the nation or a whole nation.
And he has expressed this will, his intention.
He has done steps for this.
And he's a war criminal.
And if you say that there is no outcome of talking to him, then why talk to him?
Because I feel I don't see into his head, of course, and into Kremlin's walls, but I feel that if everybody is constantly calling him, he doesn't get the message that he's isolated.
So if we want to get him the message through that actually you're isolated, don't call him.
They applaud this shit.
Send him a message that I'm not talking to him.
Yes, tell him we're not talking to him.
If you see him, tell him I'm not talking to him.
Why would you talk to him?
Because that's how you end wars.
You're a lawyer.
You just said you're a lawyer.
So what this tells you is that a guy like Reid Hoffman made sure she got installed.
So a billionaire donor person who makes money off of war and or maybe and sells probably energy, natural gas to Europe.
They made sure she got installed in this position because they don't want this war to end.
Just remember what Julian Assange told us.
The wars are not meant to be won.
They're meant to be ongoing.
And so they can keep transferring money from the treasuries of governments into the pockets of the war machine and the international security state.
That's what this is about.
And she'll beg, Jimmy, for a UBI.
That's when you'll begin UBI because now you got nothing.
So this woman is installed by an oligarchy that's running the Western fucking world, and it's run by billionaires.
Look at those guys.
Imagine them all in red robes gathered around an owl and a mire and whatever the hell they do.
So that's, do you, do you, did you hear the craziness she just said?
Why talk to a guy who's the head of a nuclear power that's in the middle of winning a war?
Well, he's a war criminal.
Every president in my lifetime is a war criminal.
Right now, Joe Biden is funding a genocide.
The one you, the definition you just looked up, would you talk to him?
Okay, so that's so, again, so you know, she's just a lying full of, she's clearly another out of nowhere figure that was actually shat from some dark anti-universe mirror into this world to bring her completely opposite from rationality or decency take on politics.
Was she trained in Israel?
It's like an Estonia, I mean, from Estonia, so that's clearly where they're, it's like a factory to get more of those left leaders, you know, for the EU.
And do you want to see how horrible she actually is?
So you remember I showed you Colonel McGregor said that the people who want this war in Ukraine, they have this idea in their head.
They thought Russia was actually weaker than it was.
So right now they're in the middle of splitting up Ukraine and handing it over to BlackRock and Vanguard, which they're doing, and Bill Gates and people like that.
They thought they could do the same thing to Russia, that they could break up Russia into smaller parts and then sell it off to Vanguard and BlackRock and all those things.
Well, it worked in America.
Right?
That's what they thought they could do.
And now that's what Colonel McGregor said.
Well, here she's just going to tell you.
The EU's new chief, this is from Arnod Bertram.
The EU's new chief diplomat who doesn't seem to understand the very concept of diplomacy.
Why talk to Putin?
Why?
He's a war criminal.
Well, maybe because that's literally what your job is, trying to talk to warring parties in order to bring an end to a war that's ruining the union you represent.
Because right now, the European Union is paying way higher prices for energy than they would be since we blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, and it's killing their economies.
But is it weakening Russia, Jimmy?
Who's a bigger war criminal?
The side that's ready to negotiate and end to the war, or the side that insists it needs to keep it going without end in sight, no matter how many lives are lost in the process.
So that's what her position is.
That's what Joe Biden's position is.
The person who wants to negotiate and end the war is Putin.
So, and by the way, yes, the same goes for so I wanted, so here's the part I wanted to show you.
Here she is, the deranged, virulently Russia-phobic prime minister of Estonia and the new foreign minister of the European Union.
She wants to break up Russia.
She just says it.
That thing that Colonel McGregor said, that you thought he had inside knowledge, well, now she's just saying it out loud.
I think if you have more like small nations, it's not a bad thing if the big power is actually much smaller.
If you would have more like small nations, it's not a bad thing if the big power is actually much smaller.
Well, I'm glad Estonia is not bigger.
I can tell you that.
Well, good thing Estonia is smaller because look how small it is.
It turned you into a moron.
I mean, she really is a chick that should have been born and bred to be one of Trump's wives, but for some reason she's in charge of a country.
She wants to break up Russia.
Hey, they're not the Beatles.
Yoko.
So that's her big.
And why is that a bad?
Why is that a horrible thing?
Well, this is an insane thing to say, not only because it makes winning the war all the more existential for Russia.
Now Russia has to make sure it crushes because if it shows weakness, then you guys are going to come and try to break up their country.
And by the way, Russia, who, as a reminder, have the most nuclear warheads in the world.
But also.
Hypersonic missiles we don't have.
And they have hypersonic missiles, which we don't have.
They don't even need to break into the nuke because they can hit us with conventional weapons that you can actually use.
That we can't stop.
But also because it betrays a stunning lack of understanding of geopolitics and history.
It would absolutely be a bad thing if Russia were to be broken up because it's basic common sense that the more divided a geographical region is, the more unstable it actually becomes.
BlackRock.
It sounds like an ad for Black Rock.
It does sound like an ad for BlackRock.
The stunning lack of knowledge point sounds like a good campaign for Harris slogan.
A stunning lack of knowledge about history and geopolitical events.
So there is a reason why both world wars started in Europe and why the Middle East is consistently the world's most explosive region.
In fact, U.S. officials such as Jack F. Matlock, the last U.S. ambassador to the Soviet Union, are on record saying that one of the United States objectives at the end of the Cold War was to prevent the breakup of the Soviet Union.
And the fact that it eventually did break up was, in his words, a defeat for Western policy.
Wow.
This is because they understood full well it had create newfound geopolitical tensions between the new states.
And that, of course, proved correct.
Wow, sounds like Jack F. Matlock wasn't in on the plan all the way.
Sounds like he was only in on the plan where you think America is a country and not a thing for the George H.W. Bush New World Order.
He goes on, he finishes his tweet by saying this is also incidentally the prime reason why the European Union was created with the support of the United States.
Because the more broken up a region is, the more unstable it is.
These are the psychopaths.
I don't know if I'm allowed to say that on YouTube.
I don't think I'm allowed to call people that name.
Oligarchs?
Oligarchs.
I'm not allowed.
I don't think so.
I have to retract and denounce myself.
Oh, why don't you call him Kuntz?
That she's not one.
She's just acting like one.
How would you be in a leadership position without being at least a secondary psychopath?
Right.
So here, Lindsey Graham, I just want to remind you the kind of people, the mentality of the people who actually are running things.
Here's him saying that Vladimir Putin cannot be allowed to access that money.
So Ukraine has trillions of dollars worth of critical minerals in their country.
Vladimir Putin cannot be allowed to access that money and those resources because he will share it with China.
So this isn't about anything, again, except money and natural resources.
Here it is.
They're sitting on $10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in Ukraine.
So again, they never brought this up for two and a half years.
All of a sudden, oh, now we've got another reason to stay in the war.
Right.
They're sitting at $10 trillion of natural minerals.
So that's what this is about?
Just sitting there?
Why can't we just do regular business deals?
Here we go.
They're sitting on $10 to $12 trillion of critical minerals in Ukraine.
They could be the richest country.
So that's what this conflict's really about.
It's not about the Ukrainian people or their freedom or Crimea or the Donbass.
That's what this is really about.
He's letting them.
I'm reading their minerals.
That's right.
All of Europe.
I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China.
If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of.
That $10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China.
This is a very big deal, how Ukraine ends.
Let's help them win a war we can't afford to lose.
Let's find a solution to this war.
But they're sitting on a gold mine to give Putin 10 or 12 trillion dollars of critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.
So the weird old lady's right.
Better for every Ukrainian to die in a losing war than to let Russia share minerals with China.
Who is this again?
JD Vance's Meemaw?
What does he mean, by the way, give them to Russia?
First he goes, they're sitting on minerals.
I don't want to give them to Russia.
Well, they're not your minerals, dude.
They're Ukrainians.
What do you mean you don't want to give the...
And if we don't steal it, we're basically letting Russia steal it.
That's psychopath.
That's what that psychopath is saying.
I don't want to give that to Russia by not taking charge of their stuff that does not belong to us.
Ukraine already had an economic deal with Russia when Yanukovych was president that was much more beneficial to the people of Ukraine.
So now he's coming and saying, we're going to have to do a war, get a bunch of, get a million people slaughtered so we can do a deal of economic deal with Ukraine.
That's what he's doing.
Why are you sitting on our stuff, guys?
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