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Hello, who's first?
Hi, Jimmy.
This is Senator Mitt Romney of the Great State of Utah.
How's it hanging, Blair?
Anyway, I usually don't make New Year's resolutions for religious reasons.
I don't know of any specific Mormon rule against them.
They just seem slightly pagan.
But for 2024, I say screw it.
My resolution is to treat the rest of my time in the Senate like an absolute joke.
You've heard of a lame duck?
Well, I'm going to be a goose with fetal alcohol situation.
We're talking leaving upper deckers in the senatorial men's room, showing the trowel on the Senate floor, sending 20 anchovy peaches to Mitch McConnell's office.
If all my colleagues get to be total clowns, then so do I. Watch this face, Jimmy, because it's going to be a real doozy, you unrepentant dog fucker.
Happy New Year, Jimmy.
All right.
Thank you, Mitt.
That's great.
Let's see who's next.
Jimmy, it's here, Pachina.
Okay, hey, Al.
My New Year's resolution for 2020, whatever the fuck it is, is for me to be the best 83-year-old father my little baby boy can have.
Which is to say, not much of one.
I don't know.
83 years old, and I have a special assistant whose job it is to remind me to eat.
So I'll be around wave at him, take naps in his general vicinity.
That's fucking it.
It's the best I can do.
But when my son grows up, he'll remember when he was one years old and his dear old dad was trying to figure out which remote control does what.
Why have that gotta be so hard?
Happy New Year.
Oh, thanks, Al.
Okay.
Let's see.
Who's next on the lineup?
Jimmy, this is Jeffrey Tubin.
My New Year's resolution is to stop masturbating on Zoom calls.
And I fully realize the era of Zoom calls has sort of come to a clause, but I guess I should clarify that I mean I should stop orchestrating pointless professional Zoom calls just for the purpose of masturbating on it's getting out of hand to be honest with you.
Then maybe I can do something that will put me back in the news so I can justify calling into your show and talking about masturbating on Zoom calls again.
2024 is going to be a good year, Jimmy.
I can feel it.
Whoa, can I feel it.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
you I don't know.
Can you imagine getting caught doing that and then not working?
Are they wanting to work?
Wanting to be on television again?
You know, Pee Wee Herman took a lot of flack for being in a theater analog.
Not yet, not on a Zoom call.
Not on work, not at work.
On his own time.
Yeah, that's his own thing.
Okay.
He's a coward as far as I'm concerned.
You remember what the story was?
He didn't know it was still on.
It's just as soon as I know this means this done.
I've got to go online immediately.
Okay.
Hey, man.
Let's see who else is calling next.
Hey, man, it's Jeff Bridges.
Merry Christmas.
You know, Happy New Year.
Jeez.
Oh, my God.
Boxing day.
I got a resolution, man.
It's time to finally ditch this whole Lebowski thing I've been doing since that picture came out.
I mean, 35 years ago, I wasn't talking and acting like that character.
I had my own sort of thing going, man.
You know, my own vibe, you know.
Now I still have the hair and everything.
I gotta get this fucking monkey off my back, man.
You know, I'd have to rediscover fucking me.
Anyway, I hope you're doing good.
But 2024 is going to treat you well, my friend.
I got a good feeling.
Far out, man.
Ah!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Lot of ins, a lot of outs.
Lot of what happens.
Hey, man, there's some beverage here.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
All right.
Let's see who's next.
Jimmy, this is Liam Neeson.
Okay.
Okay, Liam.
I have a threefold resolution.
Three in one, like a clover.
That's the thing that's reduced the deep chart.
It was about the root of Trinity.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Well, do everything in my power to preserve the ancient art of horse-drawn carriages in New York City.
Animal Rights Extreme must have threatened this time on our tradition for too long.
It is my cause.
Two, single-handedly end the Russian incursion into Ukraine.
And three, see a therapist to help me end this delusion whereby I think that because of my career of action hero star, I am qualified to engage in dangerous paramilitary activity for which I have absolutely zero qualification or training.
It is a danger to me and everyone around me, not to mention an embarrassment to my family.
On my return from Ukraine, I will immediately seek a qualified therapist who specializes in historic treatment or is willing to become the first therapist to do so.
If you have any recommendations, text me.
And after that, no more communication with this number.
It is no safe.
Oh, wow.
Well, good luck with that, Liam.
I really do wish.
Okay, who's next?
Hello, Jimmy.
This is Kevin Space.
Do you want to know what my New Year's resolution is?
Yeah.
Fine.
Okay.
I don't have one.
That is my resolution.
Done.
Resolved.
Jesus.
New Year's resolutions are for losers who need to change.
I'm perfect just the way I am.
I do, however, have resolutions for the rest of the world.
To wit, continue to absolve me at every turn.
Find me not guilty.
Allow my accusers to die in bizarre accidents.
Give me more chances at comebacks, more Tucker Carlson appearances.
And for God's sake, start going to the gym.
You look like shit, rest of the world.
There you have it.
There are your resolutions.
Don't let me down.
Goodbye, loser.
Laughter.
It looks like we have just one person left.
Hello, this is Jimmy Dorso.
Guess who, baby?
I said the best relaxed double V. That's right, baby.
My resolution for 2024, I think, would be for me to be the best Vince Vaughan that I can be because only I can do that.
Each one of us has a responsibility to be the best us we can be because we're the only ones who can.
It's kind of beautiful when you think about it like that.
It's a sacred assignment.
What does that mean for me specifically?
Getting more creative in my snacking choices.
There's some smoked meats and important tin fish that I want to try.
Getting involved in film projects that I believe in.
Being a good husband and father, but not letting that stop me from letting hot women know that if they have an absolutely amazing set of cans, they're getting away with it.
You and ayahuasca in the desert with this guy, Brett, that I know who barely says anything at all.
You know, like shit.
And most importantly, calling into the Jimmy Dorse show and clowning on Follywood.
Because I know you love it, baby.
I do, Vince.
Are we going to have a good 2024, baby?
You Yes.
I said, are we going to have a good 2024?
Yes.
All right.
Now you go ahead and have the best live stream of your life, Jimmy Dorn.
I want you to tear into this live stream like it's a sorority girl after seven ever clear cello shots.
Do you understand me?
Let her rip.
Double me out.
Vince bought everybody.
That's it for Prince Floyd.
Yeah.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit.
We can't afford my dinghy.
Watch and see as a jackal comedian who speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head on.
It's the Jim Tor show.
Alex Jones is with us.
He's an Austin-based producer, director, writer, and documentary filmmaker, as well as host of the Alex Jones Show, which appears on both syndicated and internet radio.
He is also the founder of InfoWars, the multimedia enterprise.
He has been banned by many prominent social media outlets for a range of alleged violations, although his Twitter account was recently restored.
Welcome to the show, Alex Jones.
Wow, Jimmy, I've been a big fan of you for a long time, and you're one of the only men who spit I've had in my mouth.
So I just want to say that I'm also Willie Nelson spit in my mouth.
My mouth was open when you spit at me like a spinning cobra went right in my mouth.
So you and Willie Nelson have both been in my mouth.
No, I stand by.
I stand.
I put that in my head, Stone, but I stand by that you were being funny because you were being funny.
You said to Jake Uger, I'm trying to be nice.
And that was funny to me.
Let's just show it.
I'll show it what happened.
Here it is.
Hold on.
Break.
Get us out of your aviation.
You dumbass.
We talk about that all the time.
We talk about that all the time.
What are you thinking?
What do you think?
You're pissed.
We're being knocked out.
You know what I care about?
I care about the American people.
Anybody hurt?
Okay.
Okay, so that there was the iced tea incident.
And the ironic thing is that I thought this was going to blow up into a huge fight, fist fight, because Jenk Ugers was out of his mind.
And you had baited him correctly and professionally.
And you got exactly, I couldn't believe he was handling it that way.
And, you know, he likes Jake's a brawler.
He likes to say he's a brawler.
But it did diffuse almost immediately after that.
Like everybody kind of walked away from that.
If you watch the full club, I mean, it was one of the most viral things I ever did.
And people thought I snuck On your stage, like at your offices.
No, it was at the RNC 2016 in Cleveland, and it was a huge parking garage that they'd sealed up with big air conditioners in July.
And so we were all milling around.
I walked by, said hi to him.
I've been on the show a few times.
They said, Yeah, maybe we'll have you on later.
And I came back by and they were on break.
So I went up there and gave him a Bill Clinton's rapist t-shirt.
And he just completely blew up when he saw Roger Stone walking by.
and said, Roger, you're not going to crash my show.
And so then I thought it was all a joke.
And then he got madder and madder and madder and madder.
And then he went on air basically and said, We're here in our studio.
And he got into the building and basically acted like I had like a James Bond snuck in.
Instead, it was out in the middle with other shows 15 feet away, booths everywhere.
You guys had a big stage.
So that's the truth of that story.
And it was a lot of fun.
So, no, obviously, you didn't sneak into the building because there was security letting everyone in.
You had to go through security to get in.
And of course, you couldn't sneak in with a camera crew.
And we had seen you.
I'd seen you walking back and forth earlier that day.
And so we knew you were there.
I didn't know that somebody had invited you onto that stage.
I know you had been on Jenk Show before.
He had interviewed you at least a couple of times that I saw.
So I didn't know that was going to happen.
Let me be clear because I don't want to be deceptive.
You guys had the big, one of the main stages.
There's only like two or three in the whole building.
Everybody else had little booths.
Right.
Hundreds of broadcasters.
I walked by and I said, hey, you want me on?
They said, yeah, come back later.
And so he wasn't like, get on the stage.
They're like, yeah, come back later.
I was like, sure.
I went and did like 30 minutes or more interviews, was walking back by.
He's like, we'll be right back.
I thought, hey, jumped up to troll him a little with the t-shirt.
So it is true that I did jump up on the stage.
I wasn't invited, but I knew him.
It was during a break.
It was in the middle of the crowd.
So half of it's true.
Half of it's not what he said, but I certainly didn't, you know, cat burglar into the studio.
Okay.
Very pro wrestling.
Okay.
But and the crazy thing to me was that I went to play Austin, Texas.
My first time I was playing Austin and I was eating at that steakhouse across from the Westin.
And swear to God, you came in and you were seated right behind me.
And I was like, oh my God, Alex Jones is going to kill me.
Because you could.
You're much bigger than me.
You could crush me.
I thought it was funny.
Listen, I love your comedy.
I love your show.
You're going to get in trouble for this.
But I'm a big fan.
So's my wife.
We watch almost every episode.
Oh, that's crazy, which is a lot.
And so, no, I think you're one of the best political brains out there.
And you're fair.
You're exposing the whole political system is rotten, controlled by big corporations like BlackRock, who are now starting World War III.
And you've really, the whole time, stood up for my free speech.
And I appreciate that.
You got it a little wrong what happened with the whole school shooting thing and what I really said and what I didn't say.
So I don't want to even say the name of it, but if that comes up, I can tell you what really happened there.
That was all PR firms taking one thing out of context, blowing it up years later as a way to try to take me off the air.
By the way, the Willie Nelson story is true, too.
Tell me.
Tell me about that.
Okay.
I used to know Willie really well.
I used to go to his house and play chess with him outside Austin because he was real anti-war and he hated George Bush.
He saw my movies about the war.
And so he came to one of my movie showings one time.
And so for about two years, I hung out with him probably 10, 15 times.
And a few years, about 10 years ago, I went to dinner with him once, but he's kind of, even then, his brain was not 100% what he used to be.
But I knew him when he was 74, 75.
He even invited me out to Maui and stuff.
I never went.
But the point was we got to be decent friends.
And I'd go out to his house and hang out at luck with him and I'd smoke a lot of pot with him.
I'm not a big pot guy, but you smoke pot willy.
And he has those vaporizer volcanoes back before most people heard of them.
This is like, you know, in like 2000, 2000, you know, seven and eight and stuff.
And we would smoke pot till I couldn't walk and playing chess.
And he would just keep, and he would suck on it and keep saying one more.
And he would just keep going.
I mean, when he says, roll me up and smoke me.
But the point was when Willie Nelson hands you that thing, it's dripping with spit.
And I'm like, I'm not going to wipe this off.
It's kind of cool.
I'm not gay, but I was like, it's Willie Nelson.
So it's just funny.
I always make that joke to family and stuff.
I had Willie Nelson spit my mouth.
And then I was telling a story just the other day to family and some friends.
And I go, wait a minute, Jimmy Doers spit into my mouth.
Because if he watched the video, I'm like, oh, yeah.
And all of a sudden he goes, and I remember like, I was like, is that iced tea or Coke?
I actually, I got so much of it in my mouth.
Just a funny story.
It was called, it was actually called Honest Tea.
That's the irony there.
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Richard Ross.
Thank you for having me.
So I just wanted to let people know.
So this is from the Spanish newspaper, El Paez, I guess is how you say it.
But I think that their headline is wrong.
It says the Spanish company and the CIA found guilty of violating rights of Julian Assange's visitors.
Now, they weren't found guilty yet, right?
It's El Pais.
And obviously, whoever translated from English to Spanish did a poor job.
There was no finding by the CIA that the CIA was found guilty.
Okay.
That being said, it was a pretty remarkable event that the CIA's motion to dismiss the case was denied to give us a open season to learn exactly what happened there.
So tell us what is going on.
So when people, when journalists would go and visit Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy, they would give their computer and their laptops and their cell Phones, they would give it to who?
So there were two things going on.
The first thing is they would give it to security.
So they couldn't go into the embassy.
They were right outside.
They couldn't go into the conference room with Julian unless they gave them their laptops or cell phones, any electronic equipment.
That's the first thing that was going on.
The second thing that was going on, which was unbeknownst to both Julian and the individuals that came to see him, was that they were actually recording the meetings and there was a camera in the room, a hidden camera.
So they gave it to security at the embassy.
And what we learned through the Spanish litigation, and this is not speculation, we have tremendous evidence to this effect, is that the CIA entered into an agreement with a company called UC Global, a Spanish company, whereby the Spanish company would, when they worked at the embassy,
so when you gave them your laptop, and you went into the meeting, they would go ahead and they would image everything on your computers, everything on your laptop, everything on your phone, and turn it over to Langley and the CIA, unbeknownst to anyone.
And so not only is it a violation of the Fourth Amendment, because the federal government can't just image everything that you have without a search warrant, but as monstrous is the fact that think about it.
Lawyers went in to see Julian.
Now, lawyers that went in, are some of our plaintiffs had attorney-client communications in their laptops.
Forget about with Julian with other clients.
Margaret Kunstler and Deborah Urbeck went in, dropped off their laptop, and their laptop had all kinds of other clientele information that the CIA is not privy to.
It's even worse.
Doctors that went in to visit Julian for his medical condition had information on their own computers regarding other patients.
So the CIA literally received all the information in those laptops and phones and essentially went through them, which is a gross violation of the Fourth Amendment right to privacy.
You need a search warrant if you're a U.S. citizen, no matter where you are in the world.
And that's why we brought Sue.
Now, the irony here: well, first of all, is that Julian Assange is supposedly in prison and facing prosecution for illegally obtaining information from the government.
And here the government is illegally obtaining information from Julian Assange's associates, correct?
You hit the nail on the head.
This is exactly right.
It's the ultimate irony.
The government wants to put Julian in jail for doing what it is doing, what Mike Pompeo directed it to, which is so outrageous because, first of all, the evidence, they have to prove Julian was involved in the taking.
To my knowledge, he was a recipient.
And last time I checked, the New York Times, CNN, Fox News, when they receive information, they print it.
But more egregious is the fact that the government actually did take the information, unlike Julian.
They went in and took it.
And we have in the Spanish proceeding, we have affidavits from people at UC Global that essentially said that they got the information.
They turned it over to the CIA and Langley.
So it's pretty outrageous, and it is very ironic that the government is going after Julian Assange for something that it was more egregious at doing than he was.
So here, Gron Greenwald tweeted this out.
He said the original El Pais expose led to a criminal investigation in Spain.
It determined that UC Global spied on American journalists meeting with Assange, passing it all to the CIA.
It included my visit with Assange along with my husband, David Miranda, then a Brazilian congressman.
And here is a video of that.
So this is from a secret camera.
I read...
Thank you.
Thank you.
And so there you go.
That is from a secret camera that the CIA had implanted in the embassy, Ecuadorian embassy, to spy on Julian Assange and whoever came to visit him.
So they were completely spying on everybody and they're doing it illegally, taking people's personal private electronic devices, scanning them.
Now, why would UC Global do this kind of dirty work for the CIA?
Do you think they were being paid to do this or what's the theory?
Absolutely.
Well, first of all, not only did they have cameras, but they had microphones.
They could see and hear what you were saying when you were in there without you knowing it.
But the answer is money.
I mean, UC Global, there was a, we have a lot of very specific facts.
UC Global was at the, in Las Vegas.
They were at a convention and they met with individuals of the CIA and there was a contract signed.
We personally do not have it.
We'll get it according to Title of the Discovery, which essentially paid UC Global significant amounts of money to give this information to the CIA.
That's the only reason why they did it was for money.
So you can imagine how people are up in arms and how outrageous it is that you were sitting there, for example, just meeting with Assange, assuming that it was a confidential meeting, and yet whatever you said and whatever he said was turned over to Langley in Virginia.
It's just, it's really shocks the conscience that the federal government's going so far.
And let's add to that the fact that Mike Pompeo, as we describe in the complaint, when he gave his very first speech as a CIA director, he said, and it's actually quoted in a decision by the court, that he wanted to bring down Julian Assange.
And in fact, in the decision, the court quotes from that and says that, as we allege, says that we, that it was Mike Pompeo's goal to bring Julian Assange down, which is, we don't know why, but it's pretty outrageous that he would make that his mission.
Well, I Well, Julian is well, Mike Pompeo is an errand boy for the global oligarchy and the establishment and especially the military-industrial complex in the United States.
And so Julian Assange exposes their lies, and so that's why he would want to take them down.
In fact, Mike Pompeo, I'm pretty sure, had a plan to kill Julian DeSange, assassinate him, which, again, that's using American tax dollars to commit a murder, an assassination on a journalist.
And they tell me all the time that Donald Trump is the guy who's the enemy of the press.
And, well, I guess he was doing that under Donald Trump's administration, but that's not why they say that Donald Trump's an enemy of the press.
They say he's an enemy of the journalism because he was rude to what's that guy's name?
Jim Acosta at press conferences.
So meanwhile, behind the scenes, the head of the CIA is plotting to murder and assassinate the most decorated journalists of my generation, that's for sure.
And so that's, again, that's another irony here.
And that, to me, that's why Mike Pompeo would want to do that.
Well, let's add to that irony, Jim.
Let's add to that irony the fact that one could argue the only reason why Donald Trump got elected was because of the WikiLeaks leaks that came out on the eve of the election.
Let's not forget in 2016, two things happened.
One, they found all these information from Anthony Weiner's wife's computer, which came out that Comer was bringing front and center.
But as important, all these emails came out from the Democratic Convention and how Hillary wanted to quash Bernie Sanders and all that was to Trump's benefit.
So it was a very close election.
One could argue that WikiLeaks put him in office.
And this is what he's doing.
And by the way, on the quote, in the decision of the court, it's on page 24.
The judge says that we had alleged that Pompeo, quote, pledged that his office would embark upon a long-term campaign against WikiLeaks.
It's just, and as you said, there's been reports that he wanted to assassinate her.
The CIA wanted to assassinate Julian Assange.
That is just, that is so far from our democracy and our institution that it shocks the conscience.
So tell me exactly what the big victory was.
So now you launched a lawsuit.
You want to sue CIA and Pompeo.
Now, the CIA said you can't sue us because we're the CIA.
Is that what happened?
In part.
They had many arguments.
They had one, you can't sue us with the CIA.
Two, they said that you had no reasonable expectation of privacy.
So one of their arguments was that when you went into the room with, I think you said your partner, your husband, whoever, you had no reasonable expectation of privacy.
So you have no lawsuit.
They said that there's Supreme Court precedent that says that they had the right to do what they were doing.
They claim we didn't allege the facts properly.
They had several different theories upon which the federal court judge should dismiss the case.
And the judge, after all the papers were submitted and after a very heated oral argument, the judge was definitely hard on both sides, particularly the CIA, came down with his decision last week saying, no, CIA, if you engage in this conduct, you're not immune.
They're entitled to look into this and they're entitled to see why the CIA, our federal government, would be stealing information of citizens without a search warrant.
So the judge gave us a green light to go in and learn what's happening.
And you can bet your bippy, we're going to depose Mike Pompeo.
We're going to find out about this.
We're going to try to find out about this alleged assassination attempt.
I mean, all this stuff should be something that you report on.
And the deeper we dig, the more upsetting the information is.
So what's basically happening now, so the judge said that this lawsuit, this trial can proceed.
And the next step in this process is called discovery.
And so that's a big deal, right?
So tell people what's going to happen during discovery.
It's a huge deal because let's not forget in the Spanish proceeding, there were subpoenas served on the U.S. government and on Pompeo, and they were essentially all ignored.
So the Spaniards don't have the information that a lot of the information we want.
They have a good deal.
They don't have everything.
There's no way the CIA can ignore an order of a federal court judge, a U.S. federal court judge.
This guy was appointed by Bill Clinton.
So he's been on the bench a very long time.
He's very seasoned.
So what we're going to do is we're going to serve docking requests.
We're going to serve subpoenas.
We're going to serve interrogatories.
We want answers to the questions about what exactly the CIA did.
And the CIA is going to have to respond to those inquiries.
And it's going to be, listen, it's going to be, there will probably be tens of thousands of documents, nothing we haven't done before.
We will call through them all, and we will find out from the beginning when he made the speech to when they met in Las Vegas to maybe an alleged assassination attempt, which we've heard reports of.
We don't know the truth of it, to the monitoring that went on, to it going back to CIA, and then the CIA possessing.
And one more thing that's just outrageous is think about it.
The federal government is essentially trying to put Julian Assange in jail for violating the Espionage Act.
That same federal government has taped conversations of Julian's meeting with his lawyer who's defending him from putting him in jail.
So his lawyer who's defending him in the Virginia lawsuit went to see Julian and they have his information as well.
So we have a lot of discovery to take and we're going to do a very deep dive and learn exactly what the CIA did and what they have.
So because of all this malfeasance and this chicanery by an illegal, unconstitutional spying on Julian Assange and his lawyer and other people, do you think that this somehow makes it impossible for the United States government to actually ever get a court trial against Julian Assange for any of this because isn't it so contaminated now that there's no way Julian Assange could get a fair trial?
I mean, is there a judge that would rule that way, you think?
So, yeah, I agree with you.
It is very contaminated.
What the federal government is going to try to do is they are going to try to, in that case, in the Julian Assange case in Virginia, they're going to make a motion saying everything that happened in the civil litigation is not relevant here.
Whether we did something wrong is not on trial.
It's whether Julian did something wrong.
But the problem with that argument is that you're right, the well has been poisoned.
People read about it.
People hear about it.
Jurors who are going to be selected are going to presumably know about this.
So it's the federal government basically, you know, tales I win, heads you lose.
They're going to try their best to exclude all of this from the proceeding in Virginia and that we're ahead of ourselves.
But the federal court judge of Virginia will have to make a decision to see whether any of this stuff can come in in that case.
Because quite frankly, as we said up front, it's the ultimate irony.
He's being, they want to put him in jail for a long time for doing much less than the federal government did.
And again, a lot, most Americans think that Julian Assange is on trial for hacking into the DNC server and colluding with Russia against Hillary Clinton and her campaign to get Donald Trump elected.
That, first of all, that didn't happen.
There wasn't a hack of the DNC server.
We proved that on this show with NSA whistleblower and top code breaker Bill Binney came on and he proved to us through data that the information from the DNC was downloaded to a thumb drive.
And a lot of people speculate that was Seth Rich.
And Seth Rich then gave that to WikiLeaks.
And Julian Assange himself has hinted that it was Seth Rich, but without outright saying so.
And then Seth Rich was murdered.
And we don't know who murdered him still to this day.
The cops say the official story is that Seth Rich was, it's a botched robbery.
But it certainly was botched because they didn't take his wallet.
They didn't take his watch.
They didn't take his cell phone.
So it doesn't look like a robbery.
And then there was this propaganda campaign against anybody who asked a question about the Seth Rich murder, that you were some kind of nefarious conspiracy theorist.
And I asked, I asked on panel to my friend Ben Mankiewicz from Turner Classic Movie, Jenk Uger, the head of the Young Turks, the number one online news show at the time in America.
And I said, hey, can anybody remember the last time a journalist wasn't allowed to ask questions about an unsolved murder?
And no, they couldn't.
And so that hasn't happened before.
It hasn't happened since.
But only during that time, you weren't supposed to ask questions about an unsolved murder.
And the reason they gave was that it would hurt the family's feelings to solve the murder.
To solve the murder of their son.
That doesn't make any sense.
And also, nobody seemed to care about the Kennedys family when they showed John F. Kennedy's head being blown off ad nauseum since the time I was born till now.
Nobody ever said, hey, that's going to hurt their family.
Stop showing the president of the United States' head being blown off.
So that idea that just asking questions about the Seth Rich murder, and now it comes out that the FBI doesn't, first they lied and said they didn't have his laptop.
It's a conspiracy that we have.
It was a conspiracy that the FBI had his laptop.
Turns out they did have his laptop.
Then they said they couldn't get the data.
Then they said they did have the data, but they're not going to release it for 65 years.
To protect the family.
I guess to protect the family.
I think you said it best up front.
There's misinformation out there.
Julian Assange will be tried because he will be extradited.
There's a proceeding on, I think it's January 19th, 20th and 21st.
He will presumably be tried for receiving information and publishing it.
And I think what's happening now in both in this country and in the world is that there's an awakening by certainly by investigative reporters.
There was an article, as you may know, in five major newspapers in the world that wrote an article saying that this shouldn't happen.
Congress is now looking into it.
It's just, it's a travesty that he had this.
He's sitting in Belmarsh prison in London and that he had to be in the Ecuadorian Embassy for six years.
He's been in the prison for another several, based on the fact that he's a reporter and nothing other than a reporter.
And our hope is that once this information comes out, and once people start scratching their head and say, wait a minute, he didn't hack?
He didn't do any of the things they're saying, then why is he sitting in jail?
It's nothing short of an outrage that someone who's just asking the questions and getting information, whether it's the Democratic National Convention or from some other source, is sitting there in jail and sitting in an embassy when all he did was nothing different than every major, every reporter is supposed to do.
They're trained to do.
It's their obligation to do.
And that's what's upsetting you.
In fact, so just to put a button on that, he's not being charged or he's not in jail because of anything to do with Russia, to anything to do with the Hillary Clinton campaign or the DNC server.
Nothing.
The reason why he's in jail right now and what they want to charge him with is getting information that revealed American war crimes in Iraq.
And so that's the, they don't want you to know that.
They want the establishment, the CIA, and the corporate press that works for them want you to think he's being charged with colluding with Russia.
That's why people have that impression.
That is not what this is about whatsoever.
This is about him actually receiving information and he's Chelsea Manning, who's free now.
Who's now free?
And not only did Wikileaks publish some of this, but he was doing this in conjunction with the New York Times.
Also, Also published a lot of this information.
And under the Obama administration, they came to the conclusion: well, if we prosecute Julian Assange for this, we're going to have to prosecute the New York Times too, because they did the same thing.
And that's why they said we're not going to prosecute him.
But they still kept him in that Ecuadorian embassy.
And then when they put him, and then now Joe Biden wants him to be, they're going full steam.
So they're, even though Joe Biden was vice president, when their Justice Department reached that decision that we can't prosecute him without prosecuting the New York Times, they flipped that on their head.
They don't care.
They don't care what it looks like.
And they're just going to go forward, right?
This is what's happening?
Yeah, I think you're right.
There's a couple of things, though, that I have to add.
Number one is he hasn't been in the U.S. Once he's in the U.S., I have to assume there'll be much more attention brought to him and brought to what a crazy, it's just crazy he's being tried.
He's been indicted on these counts.
And the second thing is, and maybe this is just hopeful.
Joe Biden, because Julian Assange is such a volatile issue right now, there's going to be no pardon after the next election, no matter who wins.
There certainly is pressure on Joe Biden to say, listen, you know what, whether he wins or loses, Julian Assange should not be prosecuted for this crime.
But right now, it's full speed ahead.
They're trying to actually, they will extradite him.
He'll be, it'll go in front of Virginia.
And that's when hopefully the real word will come out.
Unfortunately, now, like you said, there's misinformation about what he's done and what he's been accused of.
And the New York Times, my God, that's what they make their money on getting this information.
That's what they, you know, remember, you and I back in the day, we didn't look at our phone to learn the news.
We waited until the next morning.
And that's what the New York Times was dying.
The Pentagon papers, they were dying for this information.
It's no different than one of the New York Times reporters got the, if you recall, before the 2016 election, got part of Donald Trump's tax returns.
That was published, Maggie Haberman.
You published that stuff because your job as a reporter is not to hold it back.
It's transparency.
It's let the world know.
And how can someone be prosecuted for just fulfilling his job?
That's what's upsetting here.
So again, another unbelievable irony is that a few years ago, there was a movie about the Pentagon Papers and Daniel Ellsberg, and Meryl Streep was in it.
I think Tom Hanks was also in it.
And it was all about how Daniel Ellsberg got a hold of the information that revealed that we were being lied to through four different administrations about the Vietnam War.
And it got published in the Washington Post.
And when you would see, I would watch interviews with the whole cast.
They'd have the whole cast and the director.
Didn't Spielberg direct it?
I can't remember.
It doesn't matter who directed it, but they were all sitting on stage.
And that one honest answer about Julian Assange.
Even if someone asked them, they would go, oh, that's different.
And they would.
So they're there at the exact same thing.
Their whole movie is about and how brave the Washington Post was to publish and how brave Daniel Ellsberg was.
And then these actors and writers, directors, and producers all just sat there and were cowards when it came to.
The CIA is good now.
Yeah, now the CIA is good because when they were bad.
We got it all cleaned up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
To me, that was, I, you know, and I knew some of those actors personally, and I just could, I couldn't believe that they would go along with it.
But of course, now I can.
Of course, you can't go against Hollywood and anything, and or else you don't get to work.
I mean, look at Susan Sarandon.
So anyway, so I just wanted to share this also.
Glenn Greenwald reminded us that one of the decade's biggest journalistic frauds is the Guardian trumpeting that Paul Manafort, which was a campaign manager for Donald Trump, had visited Julian Assange in the embassy several times.
It was a total lie.
We knew that embassy was fully surveilled, and the Guardian won't retract that story to this day.
Did they smear Julian Assange that Paul Manafort visited him?
Yes.
So that was the smear, because that was the show that he was in collusion with Donald Trump and the Russians.
They don't care about Iraq crimes.
So that was, and not only did The Guardian, but here was the, at the time, the number one online news show reported that same story breathlessly.
Now, in that same studio, I debunked it.
They came on after I debunked this Guardian story as garbage, and they rebunked it.
And they said, this is what they said.
Well, obviously, it's hard to tell who's telling the truth here.
Yeah, Julian Assange or the CIA and The Guardian.
Not hard to tell.
Wasn't hard for me to tell, but here we go.
Very new ones, Jimmy.
Very new ones.
Bestiality.
Yeah.
Well, obviously, it's hard to tell who's telling the truth here.
But lately, I have to confess that Wikileaks has not had an astounding record.
You know, the way that Assange seems to be backing Donald Trump over and over and over again, it makes me very seriously question Assange's efforts to actually be a journalist and not to be a partisan.
And I get it.
I get why he hates the Democrats.
They're trying to put him in prison.
Okay.
But at the same time, make sure they win.
But also make sure they win.
And while he's saying this, it's the Republicans who are trying to put him in prison.
We're trying to kill him, actually.
This is a manafort.
Why wouldn't he go with the people if Manafort really were going?
Don't go to the people that are trying to free you, supposedly.
Right.
Which is also a lie.
Go ahead.
You want to say something?
Ask yourself two questions.
One is if that thumb drive that Wikileaks got of the Democrat of the DNC emails, if that went to the New York Times, you don't think the New York Times would have printed it?
Of course.
And I'll tell you something else.
And if they had a Republican thumb drive, they would have printed it too.
That's right.
There's no bias to the Democrats.
The whole thing is so outrageous.
And it really, you know, it speaks to our whole communications problem with this fake news out there.
I mean, people are just saying what they want to hear, what they want to say, what they want people to hear.
And it's just, you know, it's working its way now into this president.
It's a big, different conversation, but it's working its way into this presidential election.
At the end of the day, Julian Assange did nothing other than be an investigative reporter.
And for that, he cannot, he should not be tried.
He cannot be convicted.
Well, let me just finish this short clip.
And let's be clear about that.
And now the Republicans are too, and they have been in the past.
But it seems like Assange has picked a side.
And look, it makes me question his reporting.
And so that's the situation we're in now.
So now is he just leaking things that he gets?
And no matter what, in which case I would respect that?
Or is he selectively leaking based on his political motives?
Now that that suspicion is out there and it's real and it's possible, well, now I'm concerned that he can't be trusted.
This fat idiot.
So the person who can't be trusted is this guy who had just taken $20 million from the DNC donors to lie and smear Julian Assange for doing actual journalism.
And to him pretend that he doesn't know what he's doing is the biggest lie.
And that's why his audience is abandoned.
That's why I say they used to be the largest online news show.
They have a bunch of fake subscribers.
And he's got, it looks like he's got a $5,000 or $10,000 watch he's wearing.
And I'm guessing that came right from Jeffrey Katzenberg and that money.
And by the way, they haven't retracted this video.
They won't take it down, just like The Guardian won't take down that bogus article.
And so that's them being the enemy of the people.
That's them being paid liars to lie to you about journalists.
So the thing that they accuse Trump of doing, of being the enemy of journalists and free speech, they're actually doing it.
So that at the time, the number one news show in the world won't do and they won't retract it.
And they want everybody to memory hole it and forget it happen.
But I'm not going to let them do that.
So the good news when it comes back to Julian is that assuming that it goes forward, it probably will.
There will be a trial.
The government has a burden.
It's not going to be tapes like this.
It'll be real evidence.
And there should be, should be a groundswell of support for a reporter who reported information he received.
And if he is tried and if he is acquitted, that it's a terrible waste of 10 years of his life.
Yes.
But that, it's terrible.
I mean, what he's going through.
But that should be the end result.
Well, hopefully he's alive.
Hopefully that, you know, what they're really doing is torturing him.
And I bet their fingers are crossed that he dies.
And the reason why they're doing this, even though there's no way they would win a court case against him, the reason why they're doing this is to, as an example, to anybody else out there who wants to go against the security state, anybody else who wants to go against the CIA, the United States war machine, and the CIA, anybody who wants to go against those people, Julian Assange is your example.
That's what's going to happen to you.
And that's why we have situations where no one would tell the truth about Syria in the news.
No one would tell the truth about Ukraine.
Nobody would tell the truth about Ukraine.
The only guy who did, his name was Tucker Carlson, and he got fired.
And I have to remind people, they don't fire you from corporate news for lying.
That's why they hire you.
They fire you if you ever tell a truth you're not supposed to.
And of course, Tucker Carlson told the truth about the Ukraine war, and that was a bridge too far.
And they couldn't stand that, and that's why they fired him.
Anyway, now the New York Times will never print anything like a Pentagon papers ever again.
They won't even print just stuff that, I mean, think of the whole pandemic of stuff that they won't.
Oh, that's a conspiracy.
So that's successful.
New York Times that would be on the hook if Julian Assange were on trial for what he did with that information.
That's a warning to them.
They're never going to do anything like that again if they help it.
They already ran all those people out that would talk about real things.
Right.
So yeah, so all the people who would say something like Chris Hedges, Seymour Hersh, Seymour Hurst, they're all got fired.
They got run out of the New York Times, the Washington Post.
It stifles the First Amendment.
I mean, this country is founded on that very basic principle.
And when you put Julian Assange out there and say, listen, you do what he did.
We're going to go after you too.
It's terrible.
I mean, it's really, it just contravenes everything we learned in our whole life about the country and the freedom and the freedom of speech and how you should be able to say what you want to say.
And investigative report journalism, there's a lot of troublesome repercussions from this con from the conduct of the government.
Well, Richard Roth, lead attorney representing lawyers and journalists who had filed suit against the CIA and Mike Pompeo.
We wish you all the luck, and I hope you come back and tell us about your victories.
Thank you so much.
Anytime.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy is President Joe Biden.
Aloha from St. Croix in the Caribbean.
Hello, Mr. President.
Are you on vacation?
I sure am.
I'm on my annual Christmas trip to the islands, mom.
With my wife and my granddaughter, Natalie.
You only take one of your grandchildren?
Yep, just a teen girl one.
Kind of weird.
But it's an annual tradition.
It's been a tough year, I'm not going to lie.
I have a feeling 24 is going to be a good year.
So we're going to lie around the beach knowing that the best is yet to come.
What do you think about the state of the world as you go off to lounge on a beach, Mr. President?
Jimmy, everything is under control.
Really?
Under control?
You think the situation in Gaza is under control?
In a way, yes.
Jimmy, once you realize Israel is truly engaged in ethnic cleansing, you realize there's nothing you can do about it.
Jeez.
In an odd way, it's kind of a relief.
It's just going to happen.
If history's telling us anything, nobody can really do anything to stop a genocide.
Especially if Israel's doing it.
Because it was decided decades ago that for some reason they get to do whatever they want.
And nobody can say shit.
I see.
I see.
All I can do is let the press know, and occasionally we tell the Israelis, hey, maybe take it easy, old bitch, and then they don't do shit.
If anyone here says peep, we drop out blanket to make some vaguely threatening pro-Israel statement, and then we're good.
So, this is just gonna go how it goes.
It's just triage from here on out.
This is this is just so unbelievable.
I agree, it's hard to believe how easy this is to navigate now.
That's not what I meant.
Oh, and what about Ukraine?
How's that going?
Well, Jimmy's political has reported my government, despite its rhetoric and defeat about defeating evil-ass Russia at all costs, has quietly begun urging Ukraine to pursue peace talks and ultimately a negotiated settlement.
A settlement which would inevitably result in large swaths of territory in eastern Ukraine remaining in Russian hands.
Oh, you mean that thing that was proposed in the beginning of this war, but was considered by you to be cowardly capitulation to Putin?
You mean that thing?
Exactly.
Yeah, at that time, such a move would have been a slap in the face to the community of nations saying that to the world.
You know, go ahead, take what you want, no one will stop you.
Well, we can't have that.
The forces of democracy must stand up to the forces of tyranny, wherever it may be.
And now it turns out we can have that is now the policy of the U.S. State Department.
Oh, okay.
How can you justify this about face, though?
Because we need this shit to go away, man.
Enough.
Wrap it up.
That unstoppable genocide in Gaza that I mentioned earlier might lead to a broader conflict in the Middle East.
And we can't be fudzing around in winterland anymore.
Our latest aid package to Ukraine was $250 million.
That's barely enough for them to wipe their ass with.
Pwah.
Wow.
I'm sorry, my little olive-sweated friend.
Your goose is cooked.
And so, what if Russia takes some of their territory?
How does that affect us?
That's that's sort of what we've been saying.
And in a way, it makes sense if you think about it.
All that territory is not even part of Ukraine proper.
It used to be called Novorusia or New Russia.
These were thinly populated grasslands until the late 1700s when Russia, not an independent Ukraine, Russia agriculturally and then industrially developed this territory and settled it largely with Russians, which is why these areas are Russian-speaking to this day.
The cities of Odessa, Mariupol, Sevastopol, Louisville, Kentucky is older than these cities that were created by Russia.
These lands are in a way Russian.
I'm not sure this warrants an invasion, but ceding them to Russia does not make it make a certain amount of sense.
And the idea that we let this happen, Russia will overrun Western Europe is utter nonsense.
Mr. President, there were people saying that two years ago, though.
Whoever was saying what I just said two years ago was a fascist and a democracy.
I'm saying it now, so it's fine, but it was wrong then.
But now it's the past to peace and therefore good.
I'm good for saying it.
Do you understand?
No, not at all.
Yeah, well, I'm playing 3D chess over here, operating on all different levels of a new bubble.
Yeah, yeah, clearly.
Well, since Gaza and Ukraine are really more capitulations than triumphs, you can't really amplify them publicly, so you just let them go away.
So, what would be a net positive for Biden administration right now?
I don't know, gas prices, stock market, some shit like that.
I don't really have any stuff I don't have any control over to begin with, really.
But I will take credit for.
Honestly, you know, I'm on vacation right now.
I'll let the eggheads back in the West Wing worry about all that.
I'll get back on the stick in 2024, but right now it's sunshine time.
I got you.
I urge you to do the same.
Quit giving a shit until next year.
It feels great.
Okay, Mr. President, good to know.
Just like this Caribbean sun feels great.
Speaking of, I better put on this suntan lotion.
Natalie, Carmel, put this cream on Grandpa.
Natalie, oh, come on, sweetheart.
Geez.
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