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Nov. 10, 2023 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Hey, we're doing stand-up comedy in Covina, California, Burbank, California, the day after Thanksgiving.
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Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Dor Biden, talk to me, baby.
Oh, hello, Mr. President.
Jimmy, normally talking to you is the low light of my week.
And that's saying a lot, seeing as how I'm currently being blamed for a genocide.
Yeah.
But today, your voice is as sweet to me as smooth jazz, which is the type of music I'd imagine I listen to.
And why is that, pal?
Because I'm on cloud nine after last night's election results, Jimmy.
The forces of MAGA were dealt a serious blow by the forces of democracy.
I see.
All over the map, you saw initiatives by far-right Republicans get rejected by voters.
And the people of Ohio saw fit to enshrine abortion rights into law, protecting a woman's right to have complete control over her body.
A true progressive victory.
Yes, and Ohio also voted to legalize recreational marijuana use.
Yes, admittedly, there were some defeats in there as well.
But overall, the picture was good.
Wait a minute.
I thought you just said people have the right to have complete control over their body.
Yeah, but not that much complete control.
Not enough control that they can induce a general sense of relaxation and overall ease and well-being so as to combat the cruelties of existence.
I mean, that's just going too far.
See, this is one of the many reasons people don't see you as progressive at all, Mr. President.
Jimmy, my son is a fucking crackhead.
And like most people my age, I irrationally blame marijuana for that, but not alcohol or crack.
So I cannot turn around and be the weed president.
Sorry.
Mr. President, you're struggling in the polls.
You desperately need young people to support you next year.
Supporting marijuana legalization would aid that immensely.
Yeah, well, tough titties.
No weed for them.
Get a job, Jack.
I'm not worried about polls.
As I said rather confusingly in a tweet, polls don't vote.
People do.
Well, other people are worried.
Many Democrats have hinted that they would prefer you not run.
Oh, yeah, like who?
Well, just recently, David Axelrod seemed to tweet something to that effect.
That fucking guy, goddammit.
All these Obama operators have never really gotten behind me.
Backstabbers, ingrates.
I was part of that damn administration.
I should have been Obama's golden boy successor.
But no, I'm too old.
Hold on.
I'm getting another call.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Hey, Jimmy, this is David Axelod.
Post the axe files on CNN.com, where no political topic is off-limits.
Oh, hey, David, what a coincidence.
Oh, brother.
I was listening to the live stream, and I wanted to call in to clarify.
Okay, hold on.
No, hold on.
First of all, why do you talk like that?
Talk like what?
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
You sound like you're wobbling and about to fall over all the time.
I really have no idea what you're talking about.
All right, say your peace.
To clarify, I did not call for Joe to back out of the race.
All I said was only he can make the decision to run.
Yeah, okay, you sneaky bastard.
Well, of course that's true.
But we were all picking up what you were putting down.
You think I can win or not?
I don't know.
Don't give me that.
Give me the straight dope axe.
I can take it.
Joe, you can win if I were your campaign manager.
But I don't do that anymore.
Those days are behind me.
I'm a podcaster now.
You know, I could really use you.
If you could get a man named Barack Hussein Obama elected, I bet you could get an old white guy re-elected.
What would it take, Axe?
Come out of retirement for one more heist.
I made a vow, Joe.
I took an oath.
An oath to whom?
The American Association of Podcasts.
Oh, don't give me that.
You want back in.
I can smell it.
We both want this.
We both need this.
We both need to win.
How about a consulting position for a negotiated fee?
And I still get to do my podcast.
Sold.
You're that, Jimmy.
I got axe now on my side.
We're going to be unstoppable.
2024.
Here we come.
Yeah, how exciting, huh?
Hey, I'll give you some free advice right up front, Joe, as a treat.
Joe, Jimmy is right.
You have to drop your anti-marijuana stance.
No, fuck you.
Deals off.
Oh, man.
All right, gentlemen, this is riveting, but I'm going to have to let you sort this out on your own.
We got a show to get to, okay?
So goodbye.
Bye.
Yeah.
Establishment media sucks.
All gaslighting, so good luck.
Bullshit we can't afford.
Fomenting this.
Watch and see as the jack off.
The median speeds and jumps the medium.
And hits them head on.
It's the Chimitor Show.
you Thank you.
I have two special guests who are being currently censored by Twitter by Elon Musk and X, and I'm never going to call it X. I'm going to call it Twitter.
Here's how much I'm not calling it X. I say Malcolm Twitter now.
That's right.
Instead of Malcolm Travis.
That's how much we're not saying that.
Here's how much I don't respect that transition.
So our first guest who's being censored and demonetized and what have you.
Finally.
Finally, on Twitter is Jake Shields.
He's an American mixed martial artist and a submission grappler who won the UFC Strike Force Middleweight Championship in 2009.
He's widely credited as a pioneer in the world of missed martial arts and Brazilian jujitsu.
Shields was recently demonetized on Twitter over comments critical of the Israeli assault on Gaza.
Also joining us is Jackson Hinkle the Hare, the founder of the independent media outlet, The Dive, and host of The Dive with Jackson the Her Hinkle.
His program has been permanently banned from YouTube for alleged Ukraine misinformation, but you know it's Ukraine information.
What's Ukraine?
I can't even remember that.
I can't even remember that word so long ago.
And his Twitter account recently surpassed 2 million follower marks.
So they kicked him off YouTube.
And in three weeks, he gained over like 1.7 million followers on Twitter.
And so here is Jackson and Jake.
Thanks for coming on the show.
Jake, so I meant finally Jackson got kicked off, not you.
Yeah, that's Jake first.
So let me just play this quick video of Jackson and then we'll come and get your comments.
So look, we're under attack.
We are under attack, but what else is new?
Nothing.
We've been under attack for a while for telling the truth about Ukraine and Russia and China.
Now we're under attack for telling the truth about Israel.
Okay.
Apparently there was a meeting at X headquarters or formerly Twitter headquarters just the other day.
And this meeting was attended by ex-executives, not including Elon Musk.
And at this meeting, there were two names that were thrown into the conversation about how do we limit the reach of these accounts on our platform?
Should we just ban them?
So ex-executives are meeting in San Francisco and they are having a discussion, I guess, about whether or not they're going to ban yours truly, along with Jake Shields, who is an MMA veteran and a five-time champion, about whether or not they're going to ban us from X. Think about this.
Think about this, folks.
65% of Americans support a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas or Gaza.
Okay, 65%.
That includes a majority of Republicans, a majority of Independents, a majority, obviously, of Democrats, which takes the largest share of the vote there.
65% of Americans across the board, all political parties, say they want a ceasefire.
You can't get 65% of Americans agree on anything.
You can't get 65% of Americans to tell you it's sunny outside if the sky isn't clouded and it's not raining.
You can't get 65% of Americans to agree on anything, but they agree on this.
And keep in mind, while this is happening, we have zero votes for a ceasefire in the Senate, zero votes for a ceasefire coming from the White House, Joe Biden, of course.
And we only have a few votes calling for a ceasefire in the House of Representatives.
Okay.
That's where we're at in American politics.
65% of Americans support something, but because we don't live in a democracy, because we live in this world where our government is captured by the military-industrial complex and by lobbyists that apparently don't have to register as foreign agents if they're working for Israel, but if they're working for Russia, they do.
Then we get zero votes for a ceasefire.
Think about that.
So that was a great video clip.
Let me bring in Jake.
Jake, now, what the hell are you doing on Twitter that made you the focus of this meeting of Twitter executives without Elon Musk in San Francisco?
And then they did demonetize your account.
What are you doing?
Yeah, it makes no sense to me.
I just a fighter that sometimes tweets my thoughts.
And I think, you know, recently my thoughts have not been, actually, I've never been pro-war.
I wasn't pro-Ukrainian war, pro-Iraqi war, pro-any of these wars, but I've been a.
Oh, it's your third strike.
Yeah, exactly.
Three strikes him out.
But for some reason for opposing this one, they're saying I'm an anti-Semitic terrorist sympathizer.
It's a little less strange.
Yeah, I just think our political class, I think, is, you know, our political commentators are also pro-Israel.
I think my count and Jackson's, we blew up because we're speaking our minds when our political class isn't.
I think it really, they don't like it, especially my count is mostly, for whatever reason, I mostly have MAGA people following me.
I think they really don't want the MAGA people seeing anti-Israel people.
Oh, that's yeah, Jake, they can't have that, man, because, you know, they're going to need those people to send their kids to fight for Israel.
And telling them the Bible stupid and then trying to turn their kids gay.
So it's inconvenient for you to just come waiting in and further alienating them from our greatest ally.
Yeah, I think, yeah, because most of my following is like majorly pro-Israel.
I think they don't like the fact that I'm putting a different perspective to them.
Oh, so that's because it was shocking to me to hear that you got demonetized because I had always, in my head, you had always occupied more of a right conservative political lane, right?
But we agreed on things like COVID and other things that we agreed on.
But I was surprised to see that you actually went against the establishment narrative on Israel.
And so you have this big MA following and you have a right-wing conservative following from other things.
And so they don't want you to infect their brain with the truth about what's actually happening.
So if they lose them, they lose everybody.
And so that's why they have to shut you down, right?
That's how it feels to me.
I can't say for certain because I've actually, I'm not going to lie, sometimes I can be a little controversial.
So I've been suspended a few times, but every time I'm suspended, they give me exact violation.
They give me the tweet I violated and they give me a process to appeal.
This time did not give me a treat I violated or no process to appeal.
They just said I've been demonetized.
They said you can appeal.
I didn't say how to appeal.
I didn't say what to appeal.
So I still happen to pill and I'm just sitting here, you know, creating some public opinion.
I mean, thankfully, I'm not, you know, obviously I don't like money get taken away, but I'm not relying on that money to live.
So, but I think they're trying to make a point, a way to silence people like, oh, you're against us.
We'll take your money away.
We'll take people's, I know people have lost their PayPal, Bedmo.
I think.
Oh, it's for a while.
Yeah, so it shows they want to they want to silence their opposition.
You don't want war, especially with Israel.
Also, it shows the power of you know the APAC lobbying.
Yeah, the most definitely.
And, you know, and if this doesn't work, you know, they're going to Russell brand you, right?
So that they'll go into your past and they'll find anybody you ever pinched on the ass.
Andrew Cuomo, what's that?
Yeah, a pro athlete hooking up with girls in the past.
I thought it would be shocking.
Yeah.
Now, Jackson, how did you find out that there was a meeting at Twitter about you and Jake?
How did that?
How did you get a hold of that information?
Through Jake, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As the people of San Francisco who told me they weren't in the meeting, but it's someone I trust.
So they, you know, it's secondhand knowledge.
So I can't say 100% how accurate it is, but it's someone I trust.
They said he called me because he heard my name was mentioned.
I don't think he even follows that closely, but he was kind of shocked my name was mentioned.
And he called, he said, mine and Jackson.
There's possible other names, but those are the two names they mentioned to me.
Now, Jackson, what so you, your Twitter account has skyrocketed.
So you're one of the leading voices talking about the Israeli-Palestinian, well, the genocide that's being taken that's taking place right now in Gaza.
And so they're coming at you.
Have they demonetized you or what have they done to you exactly?
As far as I know, my account has not been demonetized like Jake says yet, but they did place two ghost bands on my account this week, which I didn't even know what that meant.
I had to look it up.
But apparently, that's a way for the Twitter back-in team to limit the reach of one's account.
And you can check that online for free, actually.
So I went online, I was checking, and twice this week I got hit with the ghost ban.
Twice it was overturned.
But what seems to be very clear is at least for myself and Jake, they're worried about the reach of our accounts.
They think it's so silly.
They think I guess they can buy us off by demonetizing us $1,000 a week.
I mean, who's going to be if you're witnessing and condemning and calling out a genocide, who's going to be stopped by withholding a few thousand bucks per month?
It's insane.
Most of the political thing.
I'm going to say probably Kyle Kalinsky.
It's pretty much my budget.
Kyle Kalinsky and Crystal Ball.
Yeah.
Probably.
Probably.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just making a joke.
But you've been so there.
So has anybody referred to you as being anti-Semitic by sharing the truth?
Thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands.
My whole comment, I'm sure Jackson's too, is to call him an anti-Semitic, calling me a Nazi call me a white supremacist call me a terrorist sympathizer.
It's just non-stop all day long.
You think those are real people?
Because I don't.
If they do polling, the 65% thing that was in that group, most people are not that passionate.
That is full court press, bots, people that are hired to do that.
Because if APAC is the main driver of this, and that's why people get afraid, like, oh, people don't support this, not that many people support this.
This is like the same nonsense they would do for like a Disney where they crap up, I don't know, Spider-Man or something.
They got to hire people to go, this was great.
They gave me all the feels.
You know, how they do for Hollywood stuff, that's what this is.
There's no way that many people would really be coming at you.
You get some people.
Yeah.
But the amount you're talking about, I don't believe those role.
I mean, Ben Shapiro slides into my DMs once in a while.
Ben Shapiro's got about 20 sock puppet accounts.
Would you fight Ben Shapiro, Jake, in the Octagon?
He looks pretty tough.
Well, no, it's kind of showed you support, actually.
You know, his count's way bigger than mine, but I've been like ratioing guys like Ben Sapiro and all these guys.
So it shows you the support is not on their side, despite them.
Yeah, that's not a scam.
With something like really wrong, and by the way, saying calling for a ceasefire, look, can I do this and not get you banned, Jimmy?
I'm just calling for a ceasefire long enough to get the Israeli hostages out.
Yeah.
How about just that?
How about and then go back to killing all of them?
Is that anti-Semitic of me?
I'll bet you get banned for that.
So, Jackson, for instance, your shadow bans, like, so if you did it, if you did hack hashtag Jackson Hinkle, you could get, I saw you talk about this.
You had like 65,000 tweets with the hashtag Jackson Hinkle in it, and it didn't show up on the trending, right?
Tell me about that.
Yeah, so we did two on my account, two different hashtag campaigns this week.
The first was hashtag no oil for Israel because the Turkish government is still supplying Azerbaijani oil to Israel, a great deal of it.
And that went trending on Twitter within 19 minutes.
It had 15,000 posts.
And then when I got the ghost ban placed on my account, I did another hashtag Hinkle censored, and it got 65,000 posts, excluding retweets.
So that's just bear tweets alone.
And it didn't come up once on the trending page.
So I think it's pretty clear that they're censoring my name from the trending page.
And there's probably more to it than even that.
I think they're, again, trying to figure out how to limit our reach and silence us even more.
So being called anti-Semitic.
Now, there was a time when that term meant something.
It is meaningless now, right?
Just like when they called Bernie a sexist.
And if you're going to say Trump's a sexist and Bernie's a sexist, then I guess everybody's a sexist because that term doesn't mean anything.
Arabs are Semites.
Arabs are Semites.
Well, that's another great point.
It's a crazy thing to act like anti-Semitic means you hate Palestinians too because they're Arabs.
They're Semitic people.
That's what the word means.
Yes.
How does nobody know that?
That's weird.
But well, now the word only applies to Jews.
It's actually kind of funny because now the word is apartheid.
So, and here is a great video clip of this guy, Ed Krasenstein, who we all know is a paid liar.
And he is calling you an anti-Semite on your friend Haas's show.
And watch Haas try to ask him, why do you keep calling?
What is your evidence that Jackson Hinkle is an anti-Semite, meaning an anti-Jewish person?
Well, I know he's an Assad toady, but let's see if he's so here.
This is pretty remarkable.
Here we go.
I said his post was the anti-Semitic, yes.
And what makes him anti-Semitic, just to be clear?
I think Jackson is an anti-Semite.
I think it's quite obvious.
Nothing to say.
I'm actually not.
So this is what this is what he had to say.
I mean, they have nothing to say.
Take a listen.
Didn't you call Jackson anti-Semitic?
I said his post was the anti-Semitic, yes.
And what makes him anti-Semitic, just to be clear?
I think Jackson is an anti-Semite.
I think it's quite obvious.
most Jewish people would consider him that.
Just like when I say, just like when I say, if a black person accuses me of being racist, hold on, but before you use an example, can you tell me what you asked me a question?
You don't let me know.
Well, just what?
I'm asking why.
Can you just answer why?
Why do you think he's an anti-Semitic?
Why is he anti-Semitic?
The things he says are extremely anti-Jewish.
Hold on, you just rephrase the word anti-Semitism and said it's anti- Okay, but why you can't just use a new word for the thing I'm asking you why you're accusing him of.
Can you tell me why he's anti-Semitic?
As a Jewish person, I believe he is against Jews.
Okay, okay, what if I say as an era or as a Muslim person, I think you're Islamophobic?
Would that be a valid argument?
I would say I'm absolutely not.
Well, I would say you are because you are because that's literally the tautological.
Just to be clear, just to be clear, one last thing.
So, we've established that you accuse people of anti-Semitism just because they're anti-Semitic, meaning there is no deeper reason for why this is, it's just because you say so, and that's the end of it.
Just to be clear, Jackson is an anti-Semitic.
Do you have a reason?
Like, can I just speak for a minute?
Like, just like so much.
Yeah, but you have to have a reason.
I think you should have a reason.
So, it goes on and on and on.
I have a follow-up question.
What is a woman?
Yeah, that was hard to listen to.
So, that's so that's it.
He just says you're anti-Semitic because I say he's anti-Semitic.
So, he doesn't give you a reason why.
He knows exactly the question Haas is asking him, and he doesn't want to answer that question because he can't point to anything you actually said or did or a tweet that you made that is actually anti-Semitic.
He actually did, it's not a good answer, but to the best of his ability, he did it.
He goes, I would think most Jewish people would say that.
So, that's his reason.
He imagines some kind of vote in his head.
And he's like, The people, I'm with the good people that would say that.
So, if you're a Jew that wouldn't say that, then you're bad.
You're also anti-Semitic.
Right.
There's a lot of Jews that are anti-Semitic, too.
Craig, you got anything you wanted to ask?
No, I was just kind of curious what the plan of action is for Jackson now because I think he got demonetized too as well.
It's shut down on WhatsApp as well.
I mean, you're running out of avenues now.
You get your mind right.
Yeah.
So, what do you, what are you going to do, man?
Uh, if in fact, yeah, there it is.
I'm sorry, jumping the gun, but like, do you have any plans if Teasley?
I mean, damn, so you've been banned from WhatsApp, Jackson's been banned from WhatsApp, YouTube, TikTok, Twitch, Venmo, PayPal, Represent, and Teasley.
I never heard of those last two.
Uh, so what is to Craig's question?
What is your plan?
The plan, I guess, is to continue telling the truth as much as we can without being safe.
I mean, it's obviously important to keep these platforms and continue the message going to the best of my ability.
But, like Jake, you know, they don't.
We've reached a point down the level of censorship where they don't even tell you why they're censoring you.
It's just because you're so viral, because whatever.
With WhatsApp, for example, I was somehow my number got leaked on a bunch of Israeli Zionist Telegram channels, my phone number.
So, I woke up to like thousands of phone calls from Israel and from Brooklyn.
And then I went on WhatsApp and they've done my WhatsApp ban.
So, that's what happened.
To answer your question, I don't know.
I mean, hopefully, you know, X, Twitter, they keep us instated.
That was the goal with Elon Musk.
He paid $44 billion for it.
It'd be a shame to throw that out all out the window just because you're getting pressure from a certain foreign government's lobby.
So, Jake, were you one of the people who had high hopes for Elon Musk?
Were you a fan of Elon Musk?
And now, has it changed?
I think he's done far better.
You know, I think out of the old Twitter, I think I'd be banned.
And, you know, he's demonetized me, but at least he's given me a voice.
And there's all he promises is free speech.
I think it's unfair and it's annoying and frustrating, but it's, you know, at least he hasn't silenced me.
I mean, at least at least yet.
So currently, I can't be that mad.
And it's probably something that Elon probably has no decision.
It's probably a rogue employee or a couple of them that don't like what I'm saying and they're trying to silence me.
We'll see if they because to pick him out, a UFC fighter, I can already invent, because I've gone through this in comedy.
I can only envision the wing nut with blue hair that thinks they're the police of Rogantown or whatever the hell.
And they're like, yeah, and I know it's a lot of the chuds like this guy.
So we should go after him.
And half of the room never heard of him.
But they, okay, she doesn't feel safe.
I'm sure there's some.
By the way, the way you found out about it, that's how you have to do it.
You have to know a guy that knows a guy that works there.
Yes.
That's the future.
You're going to have private eyes that do this that call Instagram or whoever to find out why you're shadow banned.
I will say for what's name, Elon, he fired that chick that we did the story on.
Remember that?
No, he got rid of her.
Yes.
So I don't know how long it takes him to figure out what they're doing, but I've noticed a string of this stuff happens, then somebody gets fired.
And so it sounds like he's not personally involved.
Like he should maybe be more involved in this since his goal is free speech.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Maybe Robins run right up the flagpole to Rogan is what I'd say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like I'm either they'll probably either probably either reinstate me or they'll or they'll span everyone.
I don't really think it because it doesn't really make sense just for my monetization.
I think it was probably a rogue employee that doesn't like me, thought, you know, didn't realize how much attention it was going to get.
And now they're looking at it being like, oh, crap, what am I going to do?
So I don't know.
My best guess is I would, I would tattle, I would tattle on Twitter to Joe Rogan if I were you.
And that's right.
Maybe I'll text him.
That's true.
I'm going to text him.
Okay, Craig.
I mean, Kurt's going to text him.
I'd save the text for me.
I don't try to text him for other people.
I don't like to bother Joe too much.
I know he's gotten so big and I went to like randomly be like, hey, Joe, can you get this right for me?
Text your boy Elon.
He just had Elon on.
He just, I know.
Elon talking about the woke mind virus.
Oh, right.
Okay.
And so, okay, hey, great.
Elon, you don't like that.
Me neither.
Why is this?
Why is this happening?
Does he know?
I wonder if he really knows.
That's why I just want to know.
I was just going to text Joey, like, you talked to him.
Do you think Elon even knows?
Because this sounds like a couple people with vendetta on one guy because they don't like his type, which is UFC fans.
There's a lot of that online.
Well, I'm also from San Francisco.
So a lot of that's down there.
Okay, that's the other thing.
Really?
So it's if you're from Portland, they'd feel like they own you in some way.
San Francisco, any one of these places where the real fountain of crazy clown world is coming out of that's where they drill for more clown clown world oil.
Now, for years, that used to be code for I'm gay.
I'm from San Francisco.
I don't think that's the case anymore.
Is that Jake?
That's conservative.
There's still a lot of gay people there, but it's mostly just crackheads now.
I moved.
I'm not there anymore.
But yeah, it's mostly like crackheads and Antifa and that place has really fallen apart.
There's tech people and then homeless people.
Yeah.
Yeah, technical homeless people.
There's definitely still the gay area, but it's not as bad as some of the, I think there's more in like Miami and New York and stuff now.
Got two daughters.
It's pretty bad now.
I can't believe it.
Imagine what we could.
Imagine what we could have done with San Francisco and New York and all those places with the hundred and some billion dollars we sent to Ukraine that just went right into we could blow it up or rebuild it and blow up again and build it.
That's right.
Exactly.
And build it again.
And build it again.
We could take a dump on every street corner and then clean those dumps up and take three more dumps.
I got great plans if you guys want to vote for me.
I would vote for you.
I have to get to politics if things keep going the way they are.
So I just, and here's the kind of things that, Jackson, you tweeted this out.
This is great.
You go, breaking Israel has taken famous Palestinian teenage activist Ahed Tamini hostage in the West Bank.
Wow.
Hamas is not in the West Bank.
Well, just if Hamas surrenders, she can go free.
What's wrong with that, Jimmy?
So, what do you hate?
So this is the kind of stuff that you're tweeting.
It blows up their narrative, and they can't have that kind of stuff.
Correct, Jackson.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And the level of propaganda, war propaganda coming out from, as you as you so eloquently put it, the war pigs right now is far worse than we saw from Ukraine.
I mean, they're putting out AI stuff.
They're putting out just edited, faked audio clippings that purport to show Hamas talking about certain things.
I mean, and it's all still regurgitated on CNN, Pierce Morgan, Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson.
They're all saying it, like, not even questioning it.
It's really sad, but their audiences are turning on them and people are waking up.
Jackson, remember last time I saw you, person?
We went and saw Jordan Peterson.
And since then, Jordan Peterson has now been wearing suits of two different colors that he sewed together himself.
He's the modern-day Joseph.
He's got a technical and drinking colour drink coat.
That's why he banned me for blocking.
That's why Jordan blocked me.
You made fun of his suit?
Because I went to that event and we got to talk about the anti-growth, anti-human agenda that the globalists and the World Economic Forum are pushing.
And he gave a speech about how everyone needs to have a father and how important the father figure is in life.
And I tweeted at him.
I said, Jordan, you gave this great speech about all this stuff.
We talked about this stuff, you know, backstage.
Why is it now that you're championing the Israeli genocide, which is eradicating Palestinian fathers and pushing this globalist policy of anti-growth, this Malthusian agenda?
And he didn't, it was a respectful tweet, but he didn't respond.
He just blocked me.
I know why, because he got 60 million from the Daily Wire when he went over there.
And that's why he's like, was visiting Jerusalem sadly.
He got paid a hell of a lot of money to do it.
And you bloody well support Israel.
Yeah, so that was also, you know, he talks a lot about Carl Jung and the unconscious and how, and then he just totally turns his back on it and twists it inside out and warps it so he could somehow be on the wrong side.
It's coming out in his suit.
Yeah, it is coming out in his bizarre split insides are now manifesting like a chick dying her hair blue.
Jordan Peterson has a split color suit.
You know, it's just it's it yeah, Jordan Peterson, I had hope for him.
And he speaks, he speaks sense on a lot of things.
And then just like with RFK Jr. or Tulsi even, when it comes to this issue of Israel-Palestine, they just totally flip on all their principles and all millions of dollars.
You need it.
That's how you, it's not even mind control.
Here's the ultimate mind control.
Here's $60 million.
So do you think RFK is doing that for way more?
How is he going to run for president?
He's a campaign contribution.
I think it's at first I thought he was.
Let me ask my guest.
What do you think is the psychology behind RFK Jr.?
Because he wants to be seen as the peace candidate.
And of course, he's not anymore because now he's not only is he pro-Israel in this conflict into censorship.
He's also now come out for pro-censorship around this issue.
And he's now anti-China, anti-Iran, and anti-Venezuela.
He sounds like John Bolton.
So it's crazy how much we switched.
And it could be a couple of things.
It could be he needs that money from AIPAC because he's completely gone against his views.
He's flown with Jeffrey Epstein.
There you go.
Jeffrey Epstein's well-known intelligence agency.
I was just going to say that.
For Massad, allegedly.
Well, speaking of that, I got to remind people that I'm going to be at the Laugh Factory in Covina this Sunday.
So if you want to come see a powerful show, Kurt, are you going to be available Sunday to come do so sometime?
I'm going to be in the funny bone and not the St. Louis one, but the St. Charles.
Oh, St. Charles, which I guess is also.
Yeah, it's at St. Louis.
They're ball St. Louis.
It's that location.
I'm going to be there 90.
You're not going to be there Sunday?
I'll be flying home.
Okay.
Well, if you get home, come out to Covina.
Watch us go do the stand-up comedy show.
It's fantastic.
What's your guess on RFK Jr., Jackson?
Well, I think Jake made a great point with the fact that RFK Jr. admitted to flying on Jeffrey Epstein's Lolita Express.
I think the only question that truly remains is how old was she?
Jim Henson just got a foot rub and he was on it.
Jim Henson just got a massage.
Just like Bill Clinton.
Just like Bill Clinton.
Don't just got massages.
Did he really fly on the Epstein?
Come on.
Yep.
He admitted to it.
It was well published.
You can look it up.
He admitted to it himself.
That's right when he switched his stance on.
He definitely went hardcore.
That came out and they went hardcore in Israel like the next day.
No, how recently did it come out?
I didn't hear about it.
Really?
I just saw it.
I don't know.
Maybe it's not for a while, but I just saw it like last week or something.
Maybe, maybe more recently.
But I heard the story I heard was that they were going to some charity event, and JF RFK actually brought his kids with him on the plane.
Yeah, Jake Epstein's plane.
I mean, I imagine they have some other contacts for flying around the dude's plane.
Obviously, I don't know.
Can I borrow your plane?
Yeah, I'll just say that, you know, all these guys, all they do is lie.
They lie for a war.
And RFK Jr., as you just put it, doesn't sound any different than John Bolton.
They lie for a war.
And if they're willing to lie for a genocide that just slaughtered 10,000 people, I don't think it would be all that surprising that they would lie to cover their butts about flying alone, potentially, who knows?
On Jeffrey Epstein's plane, you know, it's like Bill Gates, he infamously lied about how many times he went on Jeffrey Epstein's plane.
It doesn't matter.
Hill Clinton, same thing.
He lied about how many times.
So these guys are bona fide liars, and I don't trust a word they say, even though RFK Jr. has been good on some issues.
It's just, you can't trust what they say.
Yeah, I mean, Epstein didn't I Love Me as playing any of you guys.
He's loaned you your plane.
I mean, it's like the godfather.
The guy, the senator goes, you people come here with your greasy hair, and the next thing you know, he's got a dead hooker in his bed.
And he's like, I love the Corleone family of the greatest family.
Duck, they all sound like that.
That's like Bernie.
Oh, why is Bernie suddenly a biggest suck up in the world?
Seems like some kind of blackmail to me every single time.
Senator, you can have my answer now.
My offer to you is nothing.
And I'd appreciate it if you put up the gambling.
Well, I just watched that movie yesterday.
It's unbelievable.
It shows you how things work.
That is how things work.
And that's how they control people.
So you think RFK Jr. is being blackmailed, and that's why he's so all of them.
I think all of them are.
Listen, what did Jeffrey Epstein give his life for to get enough blackmail on every politician to save the tiny Israel?
You know, and you're spitting on his sacrifice by posting Jackson Hinkle things online.
So not that, not that any of us here is a Nostradamus.
Let me ask my two guests: what is your prediction of how this is going to play out?
Do you think the United States will eventually stop funding this genocide?
And what do you think?
I think they're going to keep funding it.
I think they're pretty all in.
There's been no, no one's calling ceasefire.
No one's talking about cutting money.
The first thing they did at the Congress, they rushed in and gave money to Israel.
I mean, the Republican Congress, pretty much every Republican agrees they want strong borders.
They didn't go and meet for strong borders.
They went to an emergency meeting for money for Israel.
So it's clear where their loyalties lie.
So it's very unfortunate, but I don't think it's going to go good for Gaza.
I think they're going to keep getting pounded for months.
I think thousands, tens of thousands more are going to die.
I think the ultimate goal is to push them all out of there.
And unfortunately, they'll probably get pushed.
They'll either take part of their land or they'll take it all and they'll get sent to either Egypt or America or Europe.
I think it's a sad situation and it's disgusting that we're sitting by us Americans allowing this.
This is also going to create hate around the world for Americans.
There's no reason that Christians and Muslims hate each other and they hate America, but they're pushing it again.
But why don't you, if they care so much, let them stay at your house.
Okay, go ahead.
I think, well, we said on this show that, you know, back at the start of the Ukraine war, that this, that war was going to only go in one way, however, Russia wanted it to go.
And we're all proven right about that.
Now, when it comes to this, there's only two ways that it can end.
It's not going to end with Hamas being eradicated, as Nenyahu puts it.
It's either going to end with Hamas being able to properly defend whatever positions they have, the tunnels they have, and prevent a full-out Israeli onslaught of all their military positions, or, which, by the way, they seem to be doing a pretty good job of as of right now.
They've taken out 61 Israeli tanks, hundreds of Israeli soldiers.
Not that I would plot or ever condone violence on this show, but it just goes to show that they're lying about the stats of this war.
And if it doesn't end up like that, if Hamas does end up getting slaughtered in the heart of Gaza City, I would be very surprised if Hezbollah didn't rush in with their 100,000 plus men and missiles and start a broader war that will bring about the end of this Israeli military as we know it.
I think those are the only two ways this ends.
Do you think Iran will be dragged into this?
I think they will.
Yeah, I think if Hezbollah joins in, it's much more possible.
I think that's what a lot of really naive and ignorant and dangerous people in the White House want.
But we'll see.
Well, hasn't like people like, isn't it the U.S. government's official position as the State Department said?
I know Lindsey Graham has said, but is it the, do you know, maybe you know, or maybe you don't, that the official position is if if Iran or an Iran proxy kills an American soldier that we're sending now to the region, uh, that we're going to look at that as an act out from Iran, and then we're going to use that to attack Iran because they've been wanting to attack Iran since 9-11.
Yeah, I know they say if Iran gets involved, that America will attack Iran.
I don't know what the exact line we paved for that, but we're definitely pretty much every politician on all sides has stated that.
I mean, it's pretty sad to see.
They just signed a resolution in the House that they can give the president any means necessary to do whatever they need to do against Iran.
Thomas Massey was one of the few to vote against it, but they said by any means necessary.
So this is so this is so if you listen to Wesley Clark Jr., General Wesley Clark Jr., his famous when he was on with the Democracy Now, he said that after 9-11, he went to the Pentagon and the guys in intelligence told him that they have a plan to take out seven countries, right?
It was Syria, it was Libya, it was Yemen, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, and Lebanon.
Like how Disney planned out Marvel Universe movies and like phase one, two.
And the last two countries that they have to go into are Lebanon and Iran.
And they could use this as a way.
So, and it's also very suspicious that it took, you know, they didn't have a response to Hamas for hours and hours.
A bunch of guys in flip-flops, Adidas jerseys, and hang gliders were able to.
They were oppressing the West Bank.
They were busy protecting the settlers in the West Bank.
Yeah.
And doing just what's in the picture.
Yeah, I've been to Israel too.
Israel is tiny and there's military everywhere.
There's no way that would have made sense for, what do they say, six, seven hours to military respond.
That's just the borders weren't the most secure borders in the world.
That was left wide open.
Egypt would give them intelligence, I believe, the week before that they were planning an attack.
It seems, well, also, Netanyahu was extremely unpopular at the time.
There was a lot of civil disrest in Israel.
Then we get a huge attack who benefits Netanyahu and Israel trying to take the land.
So to me, it seems like a setup.
It smells like Mr. Security would do that.
It smells like a setup to me.
Netanyahu was on his way out 40 weeks straight of protests against his government.
And then all of a sudden, he gets his own 9-11.
And so the country has to rally around him.
That's what it looks like to me.
Jackson, any last words before we say goodbye?
Any last?
I say you brought up the Iran point.
And I think if there was ever further justification for the psychopaths in the White House who want war against Iran, as we all know, Iran just joined BRICS.
Russia and China are leading that up.
And I believe in April of this year, I could be wrong about the stat, but in April of this year, Iran was like the fourth or fifth largest oil-producing nation in the world.
So, you know, they understand what they're doing.
They understand where they're targeting and that the dollar is under threat and that a lot of people are not happy with this unipolar system.
And that's what they're trying to implode.
Okay.
All right.
Jake Shields, Jackson the Her Hinkel.
Good luck staying uncensored and monetized on Elon Musk's Twitter.
And if I were you, I would immediately tattle to Joe Rogan.
Yeah.
Hey, Jimmy, can we just make sure?
Jake and Jackson, you guys are not feeling depressed in any way, shape, or form, right?
You're not suicidal.
You're not suicidal, right?
And I don't do drugs anymore.
Wait, can I just pitch you this, Jackson?
You tell me if my prediction is wrong for the very end of the Ukraine war.
It's going to end with Zelensky behind a desk, big pile of cocaine.
The guys are all coming in.
Comes out of the door.
He says, say hello to my little friend.
Then Sean Penn comes out and tells him a long story.
I think that's a pretty good ending.
I think that's a pretty good ending.
I was a writer, dude.
I won awards.
Well, now even NBC is now admitting that the Ukraine war is unwinnable and that they better find a peace deal and an exit strategy.
And exactly what we said, you're right, Jackson.
What we've been saying since the day one of this war, this war is going to end exactly how Russia wants it.
And Russia is going to have their direct access to the sea and they're going to have the Donbass.
And that's exactly how this is ending.
And what we had to do was spend a couple hundred billion dollars first and get a couple of hundred thousand Ukrainians smashed for that.
All right.
I really appreciate you both making time.
Jake Shields, Jackson Hinkle.
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So this is a friend of the show, Norman Finkelstein.
He's on Rick Sanchez's show on RT.
And this guy's name is Steve Melberts.
And this guy is going to get spanked hard by Norman Finkelstein.
So he's going to use a really bad argument.
Let's watch.
And this is all about Palestine and Israel.
Here we go.
Watch this.
One.
Why does not one country in the entire Arab world not want to help their brothers and take them in?
Spread them out.
You don't want him in Egypt.
You don't want him in Jordan.
You don't want him in Syria.
You don't want him in Saudi Arabia.
So first of all, let me just point out that he's wrong about that.
And he's a pretty big moron.
Because if that's your big, strong point, there's over 2 million Palestinians in Jordan.
There's over a half a million in Syria, even after we bombed the shit out of it.
So there are lots of places that...
Watch this.
Million countries.
Right it map.
Nobody wants to help them.
Why?
This is a difficult concept.
I'll tell you what.
Let's pause for a moment.
For a moment.
Thank you.
I'll answer one simple sentence.
Make your point.
Make your point, but we're gonna Maybe, maybe the Jews were like the Palestinians.
They were so horrible.
They were so vicious.
They were so bestial.
Or as the current Israeli government calls them, human animals, maybe that's why none of the European countries and the United States didn't want them.
Do you think that's the reason?
This is not easy, this is not easy, but we're gonna have to I'm gonna get him curious.
The same argument.
Did you just use that idea to the Norman Finkels?
Norman Finkelstein.
This guy is actually using the Nazi argument That Hitler used, nobody wants to take the Jews.
And he does that thing where, oh, it's because I'm a Jew.
This guy's name's Norman Finkelstein.
Could you imagine being this big of a moron?
Can you imagine?
Norman just got Finkelstein hard.
And he had a show for four years on Newsmax.
First, you're using Hitler's argument, and you're wrong about the fact that other countries don't take Palestinians in.
You're wrong on that.
You're using a Nazi argument.
And then when a Jew calls you out, you go, oh, you don't like me because I'm Jewish.
He does panic move.
Wow, what a panic move.
When Norman Finkelstein said that, hit him with that point, and he was sitting there smiling.
That's his smile to cover the fact that he got destroyed.
He got destroyed.
Norman Finkelstein trashed his smirk, and you see his face while he tried to figure out what to do with his face.
He went like this.
Yeah.
In the last movie, call him an anti-Semite.
I don't necessarily agree with Mahlsberg on everything, but the guy's a pretty smart guy.
I've never seen him get embarrassed like this.
I watched his face.
I watched.
I've never seen him get.
And that's this argument.
You know, Trump Jr.'s made this argument.
Jesse Waters made this argument.
This is a very cryptically racist argument over here.
He probably didn't even know because he's done it.
That is a racist argument.
But people don't even realize what they're saying.
So they know that these people say it.
Lebanon has taken in 400 and almost half a million Palestinians.
Syria has over half a million Palestinians.
And Jordan has 2.1 million Palestinians.
That's of January 2015.
So I'm guessing those numbers are probably even higher.
But the greater point is that that stupid smirk got wiped off his stupid fucking face by a guy who actually knows something and has integrity.
And that guy's a racist.
I don't like to throw that term around, but he's certainly using a racist argument.
And that's what that is.
That's like, oh, that's these Palestinians are so garbage people.
Nobody wants them.
Nobody wants to take them.
That's what they used to say about the Jews.
Hey, Mollsberg, they're Semites.
Are you a self-hating Semite?
Hey, Jimmy, Naeem Bakule, the president of freaking El Salvador, is of Palestinian descent.
Palestinians have been displaced everywhere around the world for many years.
So this kind of thing.
Why does El Salvador take him?
Well, why doesn't El Salvador take him?
Hey, I think there's a little bit more to this.
Gentlemen.
Your argument was used by Hitler to justify the extermination of the Jews.
Nobody's my argument.
Nobody.
What's my argument?
You heard what you said, Molsberg.
What's my argument?
Your argument, do you?
What's my argument?
So he just, what a, you know.
He thought they were going to commercial and he really did.
Sanchez is even trying to help him out.
And Finnish just slammed it in for the win.
And he's so stupid, he can't remember what he just said 15 seconds earlier.
What's my argument?
The argument you just made.
That's the argument.
I can only think when I'm smirking.
You are so terrible and so horrible.
You're a Nazi speaking out in those kinds of arguments.
The funny, this has become very contentious.
We're going to take a break.
I want to thank you.
Not on my pod.
Not on my pod.
I'm just calling Palestinians garbage people that nobody wants.
And I'm using a Hitler-Nazi argument to demonize a whole race, a class of people, and a whole f-nesicity.
I'm not being contentious.
I like everybody except those Palestinians.
Hey, Mohlsberg, how come nobody wants to take the Palestinians, but Israel wants to fund Hamas?
That's right, that's right.
And it's such a chicken shit way they say, what do these people know that we don't know?
Just come out and say it.
What do they say?
Wait, first of all, what do they know that we don't know?
They know how many of our leaders are pedophiles from the successful op by Jeffrey Epstein.
That's what they know.
But also, also, oh, I forgot to, I forgot these.
Also, but what, so what that, so what he just did there, Ryan Grimm would call a home run touchdown in the fourth quarter, bottom of the ninth.
He's really not a sports guy, Ryan, but you get my point, right?
So anyway, this is, thank God, this happened on RT, so most Americans won't see it, or this would look really bad for Israel.
Yeah, that kind of point.
You want to keep that to an RT, not on a CNN or an MSNBC, that's for sure.
So according to this guy, his question is: why don't the Palestinian Arab brothers help them out with a place to stay if they aren't barbaric animals?
And the answer was anti-Semitism.
Yeah.
That was his answer.
You don't like me because I'm a Jew.
Yeah.
Wow.
I mean, he's got a suit on.
He's got a tie on.
He's been hired by networks.
And the guy couldn't be a bigger boy.
As high as I've ever been, I will never be.
Well, it's not only is his stupidity.
It's his lack of integrity.
Because as soon as he realized he made a dumb argument, he tried to pretend like he didn't do it.
He wouldn't stand by what he said.
He tried to hide behind.
You don't like me because I'm a Jew.
He forgot he was even talking to a guy named Finkelstein.
That's my favorite.
Oh, you must hate Jews, Finkelstein.
Yeah.
Wow.
He's a performer.
All these media people, they're just like actors.
And then he's a line, lying.
Line, yes.
You know, Jimmy, too, you know what's been awesome too lately, though, since this argument has been going around when you have people like Jesse Waters and Trump Jr., this video of Ben Affleck on Bill Maher surfacing, going after Sam Harris for the same thing has been being showed a lot.
I hope he's been put on the list.
And Ben Affleck makes the same argument.
What are you trying to say?
These whole group of people that you don't even know are a bunch of people who are.
But if they get a nuclear bomb, we might have to nuke them first.
What don't you get, Pasta?
Got it.
I didn't understand it that way.
Now it's clear, Kirk.
Thank you.
And hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy Doher, this is Senator Chuck Schumer of the great state of New York.
How are you doing?
I'm doing great, Senator.
How about yourself?
Very well, Jimmy.
I'm very satisfied.
Satisfied?
Jimmy, I am experiencing profound satisfaction with my colleagues in the House of Representatives for their decision to censure Rashida Tale for her unconscionable words in action.
Also, I just had a very nice sandwich, so I'm satisfied in that sense as well.
I see.
You think she warranted an official censor?
Oh, absolutely.
We can't have this in Congress.
We can't have these Palestinians.
Palestinians?
What?
Just Palestinians, period.
We can't have Palestinian Americans in Congress?
Frankly, no.
I mean, if that's what you are, fine, but just don't say it.
Don't say Palestinian.
I'm Palestinian.
My family is in Gaza.
It's aggressive and offensive, and now is not the time.
But those are just statements of fact.
So why?
Who cares?
Does anyone think about how I or my cousin Amy Schumer feel when we hear the word Palestinian?
Does anybody care about us?
No, they don't.
See, this is why we need Israel in the first place.
No ceasefire.
So, Ms. Tlaib should be censured for saying she's a Palestinian American.
No, dummy.
She was censured for being critical of Israel and repeating that awful slogan: From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
I can barely even say it.
So what?
Jimmy, that's a call for genocide.
It's right there.
It's nakedly obvious.
No, it most certainly is not, Senator.
It's a statement calling for the freedom of the Palestinian people within their former territory, not for the death of Israelis.
Well, what the fuck do you think will happen once we let these animals out of their cages?
They'll kill everybody.
They're savages.
If your slogan is free to tigers, sorry, you are pro-tiger attacks by default.
That's why Representative Tlaib's dehumanizing language is so offensive.
Okay, I got you.
Perhaps Miss Tlaib doesn't see Palestinians as savages.
Well, that's anti-Semitic.
She should be censured for that, too.
Maybe we should censure you.
Censor me?
Why would you censor me?
Censure you, censure me, censure everybody.
Senator, please calm down.
I'm sorry.
Look, Jimmy, this is just a very emotional issue for me.
But I know I can't let my emotions guide my leadership.
We are beset with many challenges, but we must face them in a clear-eyed and rational way.
Right, right.
Like several years ago, when I used the cover of a Rolling Trump scandal to co-sponsor a bill with Kirsten Gillibrand that would have made it illegal to boycott Israel until we were essentially caught by the press and we withdrew the bill and claimed that we didn't understand the legal verbiage it contained.
Right, I remember that.
Of course, yes, I've mentioned this several times on your program because it's one of the most bad shit political moves I've seen in my own lifetime.
Well, imagine the shit we're gonna get away with in this current situation.
You think censoring Talib was heavy-handed?
Boy, you just wait.
Uh-oh.
We will set in motion the process of making it illegal to criticize Israel.
We will make the dream come true.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
So little Miss Tlaib and her Jean Shallot glasses could be arrested for such a shameful thing.
laugh laugh laugh laugh Statements like the Palestinian people are not disposable?
You mean like that?
Exactly.
That sort of verbal crystal knock will get you a one-way cigarette to finally put an end to all this anti-Semitism.
Again, again, sticking up for Palestinians isn't anti-Semitism.
You don't get to say what anti-Semitism is or isn't.
I do.
And thus, by extension, Congress.
I say you're anti-Semitic.
Me?
Why?
Jimmy, earlier in this phone call, I mentioned that I was very satisfied because I hate a nice sandwich, and you didn't even ask me what kind of sandwich.
That is rather anti-Semitic.
Maybe on the line, but definitely not pro-Semitic.
But either way, I decide not you.
Senator Schumer, I'm not comfortable with the idea that you can just...
It was a chicken salad on sourdough.
Perfect amount of mayonnaise, walnuts, black cherries, no celery.
It was divine.
That does sound good.
Do you feel better now?
Yes, I do, actually.
I kept that bottled up this whole time.
I'm calmer now.
I feel like I'm thinking more clearly, actually.
So, are you going to pull back on this planned assault of free speech?
Oh, no, that's certainly moving forward.
In fact, Senator Gillibrand is on her way over to my office for a closed door, so I better let you go.
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