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May 12, 2023 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who is this?
Jimmy, this is Jake Tamper.
Oh, yes, Jake Tapper from the lead with Jake Tapper on CNN.
How are you, Jake?
Motherfucker.
I'm supposed to say that.
Well, be you to it.
Just deal with it, buddy.
Jimmy, I'm in such a good mood that even you stealing my very essence by uttering my own identifying catchphrase can't get me down.
Oh, really?
Why is that?
Are you kidding me?
We got Trump, Jimmy.
CNN got Donald Trump, and he agreed to a town hall.
Can you believe it?
Yes, this is not shocking to me at all.
He's a detention horn seeing as it has built its brand on focusing on Donald Trump since about 2015.
I know.
It was all meant to be, really.
At least that's how it feels in my heart.
Don't you think this is bad timing, though, having this town hall tonight, a day after he lost his civil case for sexual assault and defamation?
Are you fucking kidding me?
No, I'm seriously asking.
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
Are you fucking kidding me?
jimmy i realize that you are a comedian but i have to ask are you kidding me right now No.
Because if you aren't fucking kidding me, that shit would be hilarious, dog.
But if not, no, this is not bad timing.
In fact, you might say this could possibly be the best timing of anything that has ever happened.
Okay, you made your point.
Not only do we get Trump, we get a freshly bescambled Trump.
That's everybody's favorite Trump.
People who hate Trump hate him even more.
And sexual assault, it's too fucking perfect.
With all due sympathy to Miss Carroll, of course.
And people who love him love him even more when he's done some horrific shit.
Everybody will tune in.
I see.
Wait, everybody?
Well, all of our meager viewership, at least.
Oh, okay.
Which, by the way, we are trying to grow.
Our new boss is trying to court more conservative viewers.
And I thought there were going to be slow, subtle changes.
But lo and behold, Trump down fucking all.
Look out.
So is everybody over there as excited as you are about this?
Oh, Jimmy, everybody's over the moon.
It's a real party atmosphere over here.
It's like CNN's first debutante ball.
And we're coming out as a perhaps slightly even more conservative news network.
Jimmy, we just feel so pretty.
So is CNN going to just roll out the red carpet for him and curate all these softball questions?
Oh, absolutely not.
That would be a terrible strategy on our part.
We have to lean into him as much as we can so our existing audience of resistance libs approves, but also so our new conservative viewers hate watch the town hall.
Trick them into saying, see, look how the mainstream media treats Donald Trump while they're watching our fucking network.
Gotcha.
Are you moderating or Anderson Cooper?
No, Caitlin Collins.
Who?
Oh, oh, she's our intrepid White House reporter.
We just love to sing her praises here at CNN because we get the sense that we're supposed to.
But she would get into it with Trump during his presidency.
She's certainly no shrinking violent.
In a hard-hitting journalist kind of way?
No, more like in a the meanest girl on the college volleyball team kind of way.
Oh, okay.
But it still works.
And Jimmy, I'll tell you what.
What?
Well, just between you and me, she is pretty easy on the eyes at Caitlin.
How is that relevant, Jake?
Oh, come on, Jimmy.
Picture it.
Donald Trump sitting there fielding questions about being sued for sexual assault on national television by a woman that Donald Trump would probably like to sexually assault.
The awkwardness of it, the cringe.
He'll be sweating like a cow in a butcher shop.
So this is your big win.
Just ratings and viewership?
Well, what else is there?
You could have just not done this, not had a Trump town hall to begin with.
What?
And live in a universe without a CNN Trump town hall?
I'd rather die a thousand deaths.
This is the final triumph of our news organization.
This is everything we've worked for.
Yeah.
Trump 2024, baby.
CNN's going to be back on top.
Well, I'm very happy for you, Jake.
Thanks, Jimmy.
Are you going to watch?
Absolutely not.
Well, suit yourself.
It's going to be a humdinger.
Anyway, I got to go.
I hear the CNN tailgate starting up already.
I mean, we'll be in the studio watching, but it'll be a real goat-go-home team kind of vibe in here.
Poppy Harlow made deviled eggs.
Anderson Cooper appears to be decorating something, and we even snuck Chris Cuomo back in for old time sales.
Oh, I hear he's bringing Jaegermeister and Rumple Mints.
I don't know, Jimmy.
Something tells me I just might finally lose my virginity tonight.
Gotta go.
I'm not going to go.
Establishment media sex of August fighting.
So good luck.
Bullshit.
We can't afford.
Life fomenting this.
Watch and see as the jet dog.
The median speeds and jumps the medium.
And hits them head on.
It's the Jimmy Tore Show.
Thank you.
So you heard about Trump, right?
So there was a civil case about a sexual assault that he did apparently in the 90s.
I heard the walls are closing in.
That's all.
Walls are closing in.
And so he has to pay her.
They didn't say that he so they said something happened.
They said some kind of sexual assault happened, but he has to pay her like $2 million for.
Can you look up what his damage is?
$5 million total, right?
$5 million total.
He has to pay this one.
One for like defamation and then for some damages.
We'll get you the exact numbers in a second.
But I don't really pay attention to this stuff, right?
I didn't pay attention to any of this stuff because it's all the same that, you know, there's Bill Clinton with Juanita Broderick.
There's Joe Biden with Tara Reed.
Everybody's got these things in their skeletons in their closet.
And this one seemed super suspicious.
Way back when it came out.
Right back when it came out.
It seemed suspicious.
It says Donald Trump must pay $5 million in damages for sexually abusing magazine writer Gene Carroll in the 1990s.
Is that what you're looking for?
Yeah, that's it.
So $5 million.
They split it up.
Some's for the day, for the pain and suffering, and some is for the.
But when I saw this, this guy, D.C. Drano, tweeted out: Did you know that the statue of limitations for sexual assault in New York is typically five to seven years?
New York even has a 20-year period for civil claims of sexual assault.
But that wasn't enough to get Trump.
Gene Carroll's claims go back to the mid-90s.
So New York amended the law.
When did they amend it?
In 2022 to provide unlimited statute of limitations for civil claims of sexual assault and provided a one-year window where pre-existing claims could be litigated.
That's where Gene Carroll comes in.
Funded by a Democrat activist, she filed her claim against Trump in that limited window.
And even a liberal New York jury wouldn't find Trump liable for rape.
People paying attention know what this truly is: another political attack to try and harm Trump before the 2024 election.
So they really did this.
Like, I couldn't blame it.
So I checked it.
Well, first of all, I'll say this.
This person tweeted out and says they literally changed the law for one year only from 2022 to 2023, allowing the statue of limitations to be suspended just so she could accuse him with zero evidence.
And she goes on to say there can't be any evidence.
It's 30 years older.
There was no rape cut done.
There's no police getting evidence from the scene because no police report was made.
Not even any people interviewed when it happened.
All there is is her story.
It's 30 years late to secure evidence.
So there was no evidence.
It was just her story in a civil case.
Well, she watched an interview with she still has the dress.
Remember, like Malik Winski kept the dress.
Like, why did you do that?
And like, because that was her evidence to not be destroyed by them.
It really happened.
Right.
So drum wiggle, whoa, we'll do a DNA.
We'll offer DNA.
No, I don't want to do that.
Well, here, watch this.
So I'm like, is that true?
So I looked it up.
And because that guy linked to an article, and there it is, Forbes says, statute of limitations, this is from last year.
Statute of limitations on sexual assault eliminated for one year in New York.
For one year, they did this.
This did this so they could exactly do this to Trump.
And I have to remind people: everyone knows I'm no fan of Trump, but people who aren't a fan of Trump need to realize that if anybody from the outside attacked the establishment, if Bernie Sanders, I tell Bernie voters, if Bernie Sanders actually had the spine to grab power, which he doesn't, but if he did, this is what they would be doing to him.
Stuff like this.
They would be passing laws and finding that's they already said he was a Russian.
They already said his followers were they said he was a sexist.
They said his followers were sexist, misogynist, and violent.
And they already did all the stuff they're doing to Trump.
And they are, so they did.
And so that's, so that's why this is wrong.
So they're, I'm not, again, no fan of Trump, and everybody should, but you, it's obvious what they're doing.
The last lawsuit they did to him was this exact same thing that that DA in New York did the same thing.
This is all because they are afraid that they can't beat Donald Trump at the ballot box.
And this is so obvious.
It's mental.
Go ahead, Kurt.
But they're all saying it.
That's why they're all on board for this bizarre.
So it's done now.
The law, because you're like, hey, there should be no statute of limitations.
Never mind about the reasons that we have that.
There shouldn't be.
Only for that one year.
And now we're going back to there is one.
That's right.
So that's the part where I can't like, well, it's just a little because I would ask, okay, so what's his voice?
So they have a window.
So here's what they say it's for.
You want to see what the article says?
Here's what the article.
Oh, shit.
It's because of me, too, right?
So what I thought they said was society's attitude has changed towards this.
So now there's people that didn't ever come forward that now can come forward.
Okay, great.
And they will continue to be just this one here.
Just this one.
It's real strange.
Why only a year?
Well, that's great, Kurt, because now victims of decades-old sexual assault can finally seek justice for a one-year window and then not anymore after that.
It's wise and in no way suspicious at all.
I guess I wasn't thinking.
Come on, Kurt.
So this is what Forbes says.
As a result of the, by the way, I have video coming up of this woman.
So sit around.
As a result of the ASA, this is the Assault, whatever act, survivors will be provided a one-year window.
That's it.
So that's true.
So I looked it up, and then it's going to expire.
So after November of this year, you can't.
They're going to put back in the statue of limitations.
Wow.
And November, then it's over after we got Trump out of civil.
And so, but why was she able to get to court so quickly?
Well, the ASA additionally grants trial preference to such actions and directs the chief administrator of the courts to promulgate rules that enable the revived actions to be adjudicated.
So they did that.
So they passed a law written specifically to get Donald Trump before the election.
And they did it.
And then gave it trial preference.
That's part of the law.
This one.
Yes.
And they had to give it trial.
So they had to put that in the law too, that they had to speedily get this trial to court.
How many trials besides this one have gone through?
I wonder.
I wonder how many.
I tried to find it, couldn't find that number.
The measure is just the most recent.
This is what Forbes says.
It says the measure is just the most recent action by the state of New York to give sexual abuse survivors some time to process before determining the next course of action.
So this is just the latest measure, most recent action by the Democratic and establishment to try to screw Donald Trump before he runs for office again, because they know they're so corrupt that people are still willing to vote for a game show host over their chosen candidates because they know they're the same.
They know we have a uniparty.
They've known this since 1990.
And I think it's just now it's over.
And the fact that people are willing to vote for a clown like Trump because of the situation, because the system is actually more corrupt than he is.
Get this.
So they go on CNN this morning.
I think this was this morning.
Her and her lawyer.
And her lawyer admits that she was instrumental in getting this law passed.
Watch this.
Can I end on something that I think is really important in all of this?
And it's the fact that New York passed this law.
Yes.
The Adult Survivors Act.
They passed it just a few years ago.
Were it not for that law?
No, yes, last year.
Not just a few years ago, last year.
And it's only for one year.
It's almost over.
It's almost never would have been able to bring this case.
And I just think it speaks to the importance for a lot of other survivors.
Exactly.
This would never, I would never have this window this year of having the ability to bring a lawsuit for rape.
Robbie can explain it better.
Well, Egypt actually helped to get that law passed.
It passed last year.
We filed, it was Thanksgiving Day.
It was the first day you could sue.
We saw the fair hall just after midnight on Thanksgiving.
How do you file a lawsuit at midnight?
Do you do that?
I'm guessing electronically because the court's not open at midnight, right?
Yeah, probably.
Anyway, I just think that's wild.
So, but here she was.
So now you know what they did.
Now you know that that last guy, that Bragg, what was that?
Was the DA?
Alvin Bragg.
Alvin Bragg completely just concocted a case that everyone knew was a joke to try to prosecute Donald Trump before he runs.
The Biden helpers came to help him.
Had some Biden helpers come from the Justice Department.
We logged logged that on this show.
We were the only show to log that, by the way.
And so they then passed a law that lets this lady sue Donald Trump for something that happened in the mid-90s.
And there's zero evidence of it, but they go into a civil case.
So they make it so she could go into a civil case.
And the juries are going to, of course, they're going to side with the woman.
And they did.
Anyway, I'm not, again, I don't know what happened.
New York, where they hate Trump, and they passed this law special for one lady.
They passed this law special for this lady to do this.
I would say hear her out because that's what the reason I'm like, no, is because I've listened to her many times.
And every time I'm like, what?
Isn't it amazing how much so the Democrats passed that law, the ACE, that law that said you could do this?
Isn't it amazing how much the Democrats care about sexual assault victims, Kurt?
I mean, God.
I mean, except that one that accused Biden.
She's not a survivor.
They go, oh, this is so survivors can come forward.
Well, also liars, which is what you called Tara Reed.
Right.
They called Tara Reed a liar.
They didn't call her survivor.
You know, you hear that.
There's no such thing as a perfect victim.
I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
It's either you're a victim or you were not a victim.
I don't care how perfect.
What does that even have to do with anything?
Democrats thought they said Tara Reed was lying because she once made a neutral statement about Putin.
I'm pretty sure.
So we knew she was lying about that sexual assault rape from Joe Biden.
Yeah.
So here's so here.
Here's a weird interview.
Well, here's what she said.
They said Terra Reed was crazy.
They're like kooky.
Yeah.
Is she kooky?
Okay.
Is she victim?
You don't feel like a victim.
I was not thrown on the ground and ravished.
Which the word rape carries so many sexual connotations.
This was not, this was not sexual.
It just, it hurt.
It just, what, it just, you know.
I think most people think of rape as a, I mean, it is a violent assault.
It is not.
I think most people think of rape as being sexy.
Where do you think?
I just think of the fantasies.
We're just going to take a quick break.
If you're Instagram, we'll check.
Okay, I wasn't expecting.
I don't know how to, I got to reload before I pull a Don Lemon.
Yeah, right.
And I don't know what to hurt.
What?
Oh, my God.
What she says next is crazier.
What's this?
Well, is this because it cut off part of it?
I'm going to play it.
The other side.
You're fascinating to talk to.
I thought she was credible up until that statement.
Up until she said that Anderson Cooper was fascinating to talk to.
It's cut off in the beginning, I think, because she said, I don't call it a rape.
She doesn't call it a rape.
So what are we doing here?
Why are you talking?
Go ahead.
Well, so, okay, all the crazy thing there.
Okay, she's older.
Maybe she doesn't understand the politics.
I'm fine.
What do you mean you because rape has a real sexual kind of, it also has a legal one that you might be very carefully trying to dance around for this Kakamami case is what it sounds like to me.
I don't know anybody who got raped like, no, I don't call it that because it wasn't sexy.
I've never heard anyone ever say that, even in like the most.
At the very least, that was kind of a bizarre statement.
Well, it sounds like you're tiptoeing around, not wanting to commit to the bit.
And it's fully, I mean, I wasn't throwing the floor or anything.
It wasn't exactly.
Well, what happened exactly?
Well, here's what she says happened.
Here, I'll play it.
Here's what she says happened.
She went on Lawrence O'Donnell.
At about 30 seconds, he pushed himself up against me with one shoulder.
You know, he's a large man, not as large as he is now, but he was, you know, 6'3.
At the time, I was wearing four-inch heels, so I was a good six-foot-one, and I was a competitive athlete.
And so he's going to have to struggle to do anything.
And he's trying to kiss me again, which is just, you know, which stopped me laughing for a minute, but then I could push him back.
But the next thing he did was put his shoulder against me.
And then his hand went, I was wearing just a black Donna Karen coat dress and tights.
And it was a work of a second to reach in under my Donna Karen through my, it opened in the front, it threw the Donna Karen dress and pulled out my tights.
That's when I, that's when my brain went on.
That's when the adrenaline started and it became, it became a fight.
And it was, it hurt.
And it was against my will.
And it, I don't know where I got the strength because he was big, but I think I was stomping my foot.
I have my handbag in this.
I never put it down.
I just, I'm holding.
I have no idea.
The only reason I know I'm holding it is because when I got out in the street, I still had it in my hand.
So somehow I got my knee up and pushed him back.
And the minute he backed up, I was out the door.
So what happened?
Does she ever say the word herself?
Like in the deposition, does she say what?
Because on these, she's like, I wouldn't call it that.
And then she doesn't say it here.
She only says the parts from the Billy Bush tape.
But that doesn't sound like, so it sounds like he might have digitally with his fingers touching.
Remember, he said when they're rich, they let you.
When you're rich, they let you.
I kiss them.
And I did.
That's the only thing she's saying.
And then nothing else.
And so maybe in the court she goes, and then I was raped.
But I remember hearing her saying it.
And it's weird to me to hear, I don't really call it that.
It was a fight.
I was like, what exactly happened?
What is the case about?
It seems suspicious, almost like the entire thing's tailored around that recording.
And then you have this law.
I can believe Her story 100% and still think that this case should scare everybody because this is how the establishment takes you down when they don't like you.
This is what they're doing.
They passed a law specifically so this woman, this woman was involved in passing the law so she could, without any evidence, which there isn't.
It was just her word against him, do this.
And the jury found her credible and the jury found her sympathetic.
And I'm not saying I can't believe it.
I'm saying I don't.
It doesn't even matter if I believe her or not.
That's what I'm saying.
It doesn't matter.
I'm saying the fact that they did that the political and legal shenanigans they did to make this happen should scare everybody.
That they pass a certain law so they can go after a political opponent.
This is the exact thing they claim Trump would do to you.
This is what they said Trump would do to his political opponents.
This is why they call him a fascist and a dictator because he threatens to lock up his political opponents.
Remember he would say, lock her up?
Well, they've been trying to lock this guy up since he got elected.
They passing laws to do it.
Biden's sending guys from his Justice Department to the DH office in New York so they could come up with some cock baby story to try to get him on a felony.
And everyone knows it's Kakamimi.
And now there's this.
They literally passed a law just for him.
That is, if that doesn't scare you, because that's what they would do to Bernie Sanders.
That's what they would do to anybody they see as an outsider.
They don't care if Mitt Romney or DeSantis or Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Joe Biden is president.
It doesn't matter to the people who really run the country.
Apparently, it matters if Trump becomes president.
Apparently, he's enough of a wrecking ball, enough of an outsider that they'll do this to him and they're doing it.
And that's why this should concern everybody.
I could find her completely credible.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
And it should be scary to everybody.
Anything you want to say about it?
It was scary when they did it to Johnny Deb.
Like this nonsense.
Right?
First of all, the thing of it's a year, so we're going to have this, you know, because attitudes are different.
If it's illegal to do that, it's illegal to do that.
You don't do an open for one year.
We're not observing your face rights.
Are you joking for a thing where...
I remember when Janice Dickinson talked about COS.
I remember hearing, remember that?
And I believed every word she was saying.
You were real detailed, unflinching.
Someone who has distance from a thing, she'd talk about it, like, oh, it was a fight, kind of, and it was flirty.
And every interview she gave is so crazy and not, doesn't sound serious at all.
And the fact that it's being so pushed is like such you saw Tara Reid, how they tore her down, and she was coherent.
Yeah.
Her story made some kind of sense, and I understood what happened.
I still don't know what the hell happened in the story.
I don't know what happened either.
I certainly concur that Tara Reid was very credible and she spoke clearly about the incident and what happened.
And there was actually the Larry King video that corroborated that she told.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me.
That's just extra, but if you find her not credible, that doesn't really matter.
The law is supposed to protect against, supposed to do its best to protect against, you know.
This is really, this is really underhanded stuff they're doing to their political.
This is a political prosecution they did.
Oh my God.
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Hi, everybody.
I'm very excited for our next guest, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, is a professor at Stanford University Medical School.
Very fringe medical school.
One of these outliers.
He's a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.
He was also one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which described an alternative approach to COVID policies called focused protection that sought to protect the most vulnerable while avoiding or minimizing the social harm of COVID-19 lockdowns.
An approach that most people agree was the correct one now.
But Russ Bringon, Dr. Jay Bhattachara, after he was censored for having that opinion and co-authoring the great Barrington Declaration, which actually, well, that's what we're going to talk about today.
We're going to talk about how we should have been doing it.
And because now everybody's backtracking, let me welcome to the show, Dr. Jay Bhattachara.
Thank you for having me on, Jimmy.
So grateful for you having me on all through the pandemic, actually.
That wasn't canceled.
Oh, I'm grateful for so much wingnut outlier fringe people like you could come on and provide me with the kind of medical confidence that I need to do these stories.
Okay, we're back.
And the reason why I wanted to have you on today is because people are starting to backtrack.
People who were pro-lockdowns, people who were pro-masks, people who were pro-school closures, people who were pro-mandates.
They're now all running as far and as fast away from those policies as they can.
Although no one has issued any apologies to you haven't gotten an apology, have you, Doctor?
Not any official ones.
I mean, you know, what I really want is that these policies never come back.
We have to cement that in place.
They're just these crazy anti-authoritarian things that didn't do any good for the poor, for children, for working class people.
It was just a crazy set of policies.
And public health did it to us.
That would be the best form of apology.
You know, when you say public health, what do you mean by public health did it to us?
What is public health?
So I'm thinking mostly about the official arms of public health.
I mean, the pandemic plan that we had before are things that people inside public health and the CDC, the World Health Organization have discussed for years.
And the pandemic plan was something like the Great Barrington Declaration.
That was the old plan.
That's how we dealt with the pandemics for a century.
The World Health Organization at the beginning of this pandemic looked at China and said, oh, look, they locked down, stop the disease.
And they told the world to do the same thing.
Tony Sauchi is a perfect example of what I mean.
They scared the living daylights out of people and they used bad science to do it.
And it's one thing if it's a political actor.
I mean, politics, whatever.
People say crazy things all the time.
But like public health has an obligation to the people to tell the truth, to think about vulnerable people, to think about children, to think about poor people and what they do and say, and to always be clear about what the science truly says.
They didn't do that.
And that has tremendous effects on what everyone else does.
I don't blame the public For going along with these policies, they were following the lead of public health.
Yes.
Well, the interesting thing is that what you just said is they're all trying to now pretend that the science changed, even though before COVID, everyone had agreed on the science that the way you do it is you target the vulnerable and you protect them and that masks don't stop an airborne virus, especially one like a coronavirus.
Everybody agreed on these things before, but then when COVID happened, Dr. Fauci then used fear.
So I've learned this through talking with Dr. Drew.
Dr. Drew works side by side with Dr. Fauci during the AIDS crisis.
And he said that Dr. Fauci always preached fear, fear, fear.
You have to scare people into doing the right thing.
To me, that's why he did a lot of the things he did, including flip-flopping on masks.
Because at first they were all for he was all against masks.
Don't wear a mask.
He said it twice during COVID.
And I'll show you, but now they're being confronted because now the studies have come out, the randomized controls trials that showed that the masks didn't make a difference.
And that was always ridiculous.
But we always knew this, right?
There was never any data that said masks would help.
And now they're being confronted about it.
So here is what Fauci said in a New York Times interview.
He said, from a broad public health standpoint, at the population level, masks work at the margins, maybe 10%.
But for an individual who religiously wears a mask, a well-fitted K-95 or N95, it's not at the margin.
It really does work.
So again, he's still talking in a way that confuses you to think it works.
They don't, what he advocated doesn't work.
In fact, when he advocated cloth masks, those never ever did anything, even if you wear them correctly.
And so he's trying to use a lot of words that ends up with, hey, they really do work.
And that's that.
And so he's trying to mislead you again.
And he's lying because there was never any data that showed we had that masks would make a difference in this situation.
There was never any data.
And guess what?
There still isn't.
And so are the mannequins, you know.
If you're a mannequin, Jamie, it'll protect you against getting COVID.
Well, and so now Erin Burnett confronts the current surgeon general about this.
She reads this quote to him, and then she says this.
Does work.
Do you see how some find this an extremely significant statement?
Because for most of us, we were told it didn't matter what kind of mask.
Any mask was good.
Our kids had to wear masks for an extra year and a half in school, and none of them wore them the right way.
That hearing that may be good that he's saying it, but that hearing that is upsetting to a lot of people.
Well, I can certainly understand that for many people who were listening closely to the messages that were coming through and guidance as to what to do when they recognize that sometimes guidance shifted and evolved over time.
That can be disconcerting.
And sometimes the guidance does evolve over time as you learn more.
And I certainly remember, even though I was a private citizen the first year of the pandemic, but I was watching closely and we were learning a lot as a country about the pandemic and guidance shifted accordingly.
But look, one thing I think that we all have to recognize is this pandemic has been incredibly hard.
Guidance did not shift because of science or data, especially when it came to masks.
And her question is correct.
And he is lying.
And I can show you that he's lying because here's what Dr. Fauci and every doctor used to say before Corona.
And the best way for me to prevent getting an infectious disease and having to have you as my doctor is what?
Wearing a mask.
No, no, no.
No, you do that.
If somebody's, I can see they're ready to sneeze or cough, walk away.
You avoid all the paranoid aspects and do something positive.
A, good diet.
B, you don't smoke.
I know.
I know you don't drink, at least not very much.
So that's pretty good.
Get some exercise.
I know that you don't get as much exercise as you should.
Joe Rogan.
What is that?
He sounds like Joe Rogan.
So that's what they said before coronavirus.
Then when coronavirus did hit, this is what he said again.
Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks.
You're sure of it because people are listening really closely to this.
Right now, people should not be walking.
There's no reason to be walking around with a mask.
When you're in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
And often there are unintended consequences.
People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
And when you touch your face, you have the virus on your fingers.
So you're probably more likely to infect yourself because you're wearing that stupid mask.
So let me bring in Dr. Jay Bhattachara.
So he was telling the truth then.
And then Dr. Fauci then decided to scare the hell.
This is my theory, to scare the hell out of the country and say he even admitted that he lied.
Yeah, we lied before and we told people not to wear masks because we were afraid they would all go buy the masks and we wouldn't have masks in hospitals for our hospital workers.
That was the lie he told then.
The truth was this, that they never had data that masks worked.
They still don't have data that they do.
And that they just decided to lie to make everybody in a state of fear so they would accept mandates and lockdowns.
That's my theory.
What do you say?
A real doctor.
I mean, first of all, you were absolutely right.
He was telling the truth in that clip and he was telling the truth in both of those clips.
There was never any good evidence that masks worked to slow to stop the spread of a highly infectious respiratory virus.
You know, good randomized evidence before the pandemic found no, like it was impossible to find an effect.
So why did he do this?
Like, why did he switch?
But before I get to that, I just want to say one other thing about the consequences of that.
First of all, look how, look how if he's lying there, he said he was lying in that second clip, right?
Yeah.
And so I have one more clip where he admits that he was lying, where he says the reason why we did that was because we were afraid people were going to go out and buy masks and we had to protect the healthcare workers that were on the front lines who were in harm's way.
So he basically admits that they lied.
And I don't have that in here now, but I've showed that clip to our audience a million times.
So they know he's admitted that.
Yeah, but the thing is, like, could you tell that he's lying?
I mean, he's the best doctor.
I mean, it's I said that before when you showed those clips.
I'm like, look at God.
If he's lying there, then that guy should get an Academy Award because that is a perfect lie and I couldn't tell.
Well, the reason is he's not lying.
He lied when he said he was lying there.
That's the irony.
That's the layers of lying of Fauci.
And then what consequence did it have?
A whole bunch of, I mean, this virus really was deadly for old people.
He told people, in effect, go wear a mask.
Even if you're old, go wear a mask.
Go expose yourself in public because you're protected after, and that's in that second lie.
A lot of people are probably got COVID that should have been protected from COVID, thinking they're protected because of that lie.
Wearing a mask would protect them.
I think that lie was consequential in terms of actually exposing people to COVID that should never have been exposed, especially older people.
And as far as like masks and fear, it definitely amplified the fear, told everybody, oh, this is a serious pandemic.
You better take it Seriously.
I mean, that was, there's no question in my mind that that was a part of the motivation.
It was also, I mean, there's a layer to it because, you know, if you, if you tell people they're really, really scared, you should be really, really scared.
And now you give them some talisman you can do something.
You have something, some visible thing you can do.
It reassures you.
At the same time, it reinforces the fear.
It kept the pandemic going.
Yes.
Yes, it kept the pandemic going.
And I know people who consider themselves staunch lefties who have blocked me on Twitter for just tweeting at them the facts about masks.
And they call you a genocider.
They call me all kinds of.
They called you a genocide.
Yes.
A eugenicist.
That's it.
Oh, dear God.
Yeah.
So I had to look that up and then I quickly forgot what it meant.
But it got something to do with me wanting people to die.
Do you think the thing, because I know they all admired how China was handling it?
Yes.
You know, and I told you when I went to China, you know, bird flu and all that had happened back.
So when I went in 2016, there's just some people that always just wear masks there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like it's just the regular thing.
And I remember being a whole time, but this really looks like the future.
It's all high-tech.
Some people have before the MAZ thing, even.
And is that him looking at, well, China controls them very well with the masks.
I'm sure that's what there's no doubt in my mind.
Fauci advocated masks because he knew it would scare the hell out of people and it would make people go along with mandates and lockdowns and anything else that they wanted to do.
And the lockdowns were, again, now he's pretending he didn't advocate for lockdowns.
Well, we have video of him saying he did advocate for lockdowns.
So he's lied every which way about this.
And if there's anybody who should be in prison right now, it's Dr. Fauci.
Because even this guy, right, who gets a lot of stuff wrong, gets a lot of stuff right.
This guy says many may not know that science never changed.
Fauci told the truth the first time on 60 Minutes.
He lied the second time about cloth masks because Trump didn't do it.
Academics had to and couldn't read the literature.
It always was negative as this Cochrane study.
That's the biggest randomized control study.
It's a, we totally covered that here.
He says again, he goes, let me be clear, the science did not change.
Public health experts just started lying.
Fauci, and here's the thing I want to ask you.
So Fauci controlled the NIAID budget.
He could have run 10 random controlled trials studies of masking, different masks, different ages, different settings.
He chose to run zero.
Instead, he went on TV a thousand times and lied about the effectiveness of cloth masks.
The first time on 60 Minutes, he told the truth.
The rest were actually lies.
So why didn't you, why do you think he didn't run any randomized controlled trials?
I know why, but I go ahead, you tell people why you think he didn't.
There were almost a dozen randomized studies before the pandemic.
There's one, Jimmy, where they, for the flu, to see if it stops the flu.
They randomized people on the Muslim Hodge.
You know, one tent has the mask randomized.
One other tent had no masks.
Not everybody complied, but like there was no difference in the flu spreading in the mass tent and the non-masked tent.
We knew before the pandemic that there was no good evidence that population masking works.
If he was to run another randomized trial, he would have found the same thing.
Eventually there were randomized trials, like in Bangladesh.
There was one, there's one in like Denmark, one in Burkina Faso.
All three found almost no, either zero or almost no, no effective masking.
Or I should be clear, failed to detect an effective masking.
If he'd run 10 randomized trials, he would have found the same answer.
We've always found with population masking randomized trials.
It doesn't work because people don't like wearing them.
It's not possible.
And, you know, you wear them and they have like hole.
Like, if, you know, if you, you have glasses, Jimmy.
I'm sure you ever, if you wore them, your glasses fog up.
That's virus spreading up.
That's how, because the, it just, so like, I just don't understand.
I mean, I think Vinaya is right.
They were just lying there.
They were just absolutely lying and talking about the evidence in a way that they have a professional responsibility not to talk about.
And I just want, I always like to make the point that let's say that a mask somehow slowed the spread of coronavirus or any virus.
Let's say, let's say somehow it did.
It would slow.
All you're doing is temporarily maybe delaying the inevitable because in June of 2021, the COVID czar appointed by Joe Biden, Andy Slavit, said everybody's going to get COVID.
That's how infectious it is.
That's back when it was Delta.
That's before it was even coronavirus.
I mean, before it was even, what is it called now?
Omicron.
Which is way more contagious than Delta.
But even when it was Delta, the head of the czar for coronavirus from Joe Biden said everybody's going to get it.
So why did they still keep pushing masks?
If everybody's going to get it, the best you're doing, even in that situation, the best you're doing is delaying the inevitable, aren't you?
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Actually, connecting back to one thing you said earlier, which is really interesting about the politics of this.
In the U.S., it became this like left-right divide.
Yes.
Like if you walk around, you see, okay, if you're wearing a mask, oh, they're probably a Democrat.
It's crazy that something like this would ever become a political.
You know, in Sweden, the Swedish socialist social democratic government didn't recommend masks because they were following an honest public health agency.
And so kids went to school normal in spring of 2020 without masks in Sweden under age 16.
None, just regular school.
This is the kind of thing where No kids died in spring of 2020.
And the teachers had lower rates of COVID than the other average of other workers in the population.
It's one of these things where the science is very clear.
As soon as public health becomes politicized in this way, you know something's gone deeply wrong.
And you can blame it on the right.
Fine.
I mean, you had Trump, it's just he would make terrible mistakes, politicized everything.
But you also blame it on the left.
Actually, you don't have to blame it on either.
Actually, I fundamentally blame it on American public health.
They lied.
They politicized things.
And as a result, divided the population in ways that it's irresponsible for someone in public health to do.
You know how they didn't do the tests on the effectiveness of masking?
I'll bet you what studies they did do is the effectiveness of linking it to your political party and using that to your advantage.
I bet they got all kinds of studies on that.
Yeah, they got data how to divide people and make people.
So that, so that's at least CNN is pushing back against it, but they're always going to say the science changed.
The science didn't change.
There was never any science that said masking would stop an airborne virus.
Fauci is science, Jimmy.
He is, but it is.
And so now, here's one more part of, here's some crazy science that's not real.
They were saying when the vaccine rolled out that it stopped transmission, it stopped contraction.
You didn't spread.
And if you got sick and you were vaccinated, you didn't spread it.
But you still got to wear a mask.
But you still have to wear a mask.
And that's what the CDC director Wilensky Told Congress back in April of 2021 that the virus stops it.
I mean, the vaccine stops it, and that the people who are infected, if you're vaccinated, you don't pass it on.
And so she was confronted about that recently in Congress, and she lies to Congress again.
Director Walensky, in March 2021 on MSNBC, you stated that, quote, vaccinated people do not carry the virus.
They don't get sick.
Do you remember making that statement?
Well, I remember such statements.
I don't know if I remember that one.
Okay, was that statement correct?
At the time, it was.
It was a wild type.
Okay, so it wasn't correct at the time, and she knew it wasn't correct at the time.
And I'll show you how we know in a second, but here we go.
A virus that we had.
It was even before the alpha variant.
It was the initial wild-type virus.
And all the data at the time suggested that people who were vaccinated, even if they got sick, couldn't transmit the virus to someone else.
All right.
Is that statement still correct?
Well, so we've had an evolution of science and an evolution of the virus.
We have since that wild-type virus had the alpha variant, the delta variant, now the Omicron variant, and numerous sub-variants since.
That statement is no longer correct with the Omicron subvariants we have right now.
Okay, she's lying again.
How would that be an evolution of science?
It's the same technique the whole time.
Yeah, that's right.
It's not an evolution.
And that's exactly right.
But here's how we know she's lying.
The virus did evolve.
So is this Kelly K. Carter?
She says, look like Walinski lied to Congress yet again.
Her statements on Maddow Show from March 29th, 2021, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus were walked back just three days later by the CDC spokesperson who stated the evidence isn't clear.
And then she shows you the article from CNN where this happened.
So let me bring in Dr. Jay Bhattachara.
So why did she get away?
First of all, she was lying, correct?
And correct me if I'm wrong.
And that's not a mistake.
She lied twice now.
And at least, and what do you say to it?
Okay, so let's try to be as charitable as we possibly can.
In March of 2021, she had no evidence at all indicating that the vaccine stopped you from getting COVID or transmitting it.
The randomized trials in December of 2020 were not tested for transmission blocking and were not tested for prevention of infection, just symptomatic infection, which is a different thing than all infection.
And in March of 2021, no new evidence had been developed to allowed her to say confidently on TV that if you get the vaccine, it stops you from getting infected and it stops you from transmitting the virus.
That was a lie on CNN.
Or at the very least, it was an overstatement of the vast overstatement of what the evidence said.
In Congress, which I guess that clip was just relatively recent, that's a lie when she described her state of mind in March of 2021.
That could not possibly be her state of mind because the evidence didn't say that in March of 2021.
That's right.
That's exactly right.
There was no, again, just like with masks, nothing changed.
There was nothing saying that at the beginning, in fact.
And the reason why I know that she was lying when she said that in March of 2021 on Rachel Maddow was because a Pfizer executive admitted to a politician in the European Union at a hearing that they never even tested it to see if it stopped transmission.
So they don't have that data.
She didn't have the data, just like you said.
She was making that up.
And now she's saying, yeah, it was true then, but it's not true now because of the virus mutating.
She's lying in three different ways right there.
Yeah, and she's a worse actor than Fauci.
Yeah, Fauci's a great actor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let me see what else we got here for you.
Okay.
So now she's resigned.
Walinski has resigned.
I want to do another segment and show you all the lies.
She's lied so much just through just through COVID.
I mean, just about COVID.
I can't even, I'm sure if I looked into any other thing that she's been ahead of at the CDC besides COVID, she's lied about that, I'm sure, up and down left and right, like they all do, because we have corporate capture, regulatory capture of our agencies.
And that's exactly what it's like.
She's a PR person for Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson instead of looking out for the people.
That's what Fauci is.
That's what the head of the FDA is, who goes right from the FDA right to the board on Pfizer and vice versa.
And that's what Walinski is.
So I wonder where her job's going to be and how much money she's going to get.
She just resigned on Friday.
She did it on a Friday, right?
Because she's a politician.
If you're going to resign, anyway.
So anything else you'd like to say about Walinski there?
I mean, she has gotten so much science wrong.
It's almost, and it's really, it's been, again, consequential.
Probably the worst thing that she's done, Jimmy, is that she worked to make sure schools stayed closed in 2021.
And a generation of young people, of kids, especially minority kids and poor kids, were denied a real in-person education because she did not live up to her responsibilities as director of the CDC to tell the American public that schools, it was a vital public health interest that schools open for in-person instruction for every child in America.
And as a result, a lot of kids are going to face a lifetime of worse health, lower income, lower life expectancies.
That is the legacy of her tenure as CDC director.
Julie, I'm starting to suspect she never even looked at any of those studies.
I have to say that, of course, that the vaccines are safe and effective, Kurt.
You know that, and they will keep you from getting seriously ill or hospitalized.
And that whatever we said here, the FDA is right.
And they give you the most important thing of all, knowing you're better than other people.
That's right.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy is President Joe Biden.
Oh, hey, Mr. President.
How are you?
Jimmy, I'm doing stellar.
Our 2024 campaign is off to a banging start.
We're going to make me a two-termer if we have to inject me with some ungodly cogtail of chemicals to keep me alive and vaguely loose well beyond what would have been natural.
It sounds great, Mr. President.
So what are you making?
Are you making campaign stops?
No.
Too busy here in Washington with a debt ceiling thing.
At some point, someone's going to have to explain all this shit.
But no.
Something even better.
The announcement of a 2024 campaign advisory board.
A campaign advisory board.
Yes, that thing.
We assembled a who is who.
Oh, we Democratic Party movers and shakers to make sure this thing is done right.
And what will they do exactly?
Jimmy, they will help frame and steer the campaign.
Reach out to voters and donors throughout the country.
But so far, they've already done something extraordinary.
They released a stupid little fucking video on social media.
Oh, really?
Yeah, just each of them saying that they are on Team Biden Harris.
One of them puts sunglasses on in a cool way while he's shedding.
Oh, God.
If That won't garner support.
I don't know what will.
So, who's on this board?
Oh, Jimmy, it's a murderer's role.
Political heavy hitters.
First up, you got Amy Klobucha.
Yeah.
That no-nonsense broad always gets the job done.
Oh, God.
Eating salads with knives, throwing staplers at young staff, and other things I can't remember, but not because I'm seen out, because they are not memorable.
Okay.
And then we got Corey Booker.
Uh-huh.
He's dating Rosaria Dawson, so it's always good to have hot women hanging around a campaign.
And guess what?
Elizabeth Warren 2.
Oh, God.
She will underscore the deep committed integrity of this campaign and also help secure the Native American vote.
Jesus.
So far, all these names are people who ran against you at the Democratic primaries in 2020.
Yeah, that's right.
It's always good to have people advise your campaign who they themselves ran unsuccessful campaigns.
That way, if they give you advice you don't like, you get to say, what the fuck do you know anyway?
You came in dead last in Iowa.
Makes sense.
Makes sense.
Also, we got Governor J.D. Pritzker of Illinois on our board.
And Jimmy, I couldn't be happier about that one.
No.
JD is our heavy.
Yeah.
He will keep people in line.
If we need intimidation or God forbid threats, that big boy will know what to do and no questions asked.
That Chicago machine turns him out.
Real old school bruisers.
And also, Governor Gavin Newsome of California, who is an inspiration to us all.
How?
He proves that as long as wealthy women find you attractive, you can still be considered a successful politician, even though you're at the helm of a failed state.
I see.
And best of all, Jimmy, heading up the whole thing, the head honcho.
Oh, no.
My old friend Nancy Pelosi.
God, she's in charge.
Wouldn't you want newer, younger blood to be steering this boat?
I don't understand what you mean, Jimmy.
Jesus God, Jimmy, you're not being ageist, are you?
I sure hope not.
That's a no-no.
Man, I love that I get to shame and scold people about one of these things.
It's so much fun.
That's problematic, age-ism.
Yeah.
But yeah, Nancy controls all the donors, and we need him, so we went with her.
Again, Mr. President, I'm sorry, but she is simply too old.
Why didn't you just go with Diane Feinstein?
Well, yeah, but you know, I'm not sure she's.
I think that Diane is.
Hold on, I'm getting another call.
Hey, this is the Jimmy Door show.
Hello, this is Senator Chuck Schumer of New York.
Sorry, I couldn't help but overhearing, but I heard Senator Feinstein mention.
I just wanted to make sure everyone knows that Diane is back up at the hill and she's doing just fine.
I spoke with her earlier today, and boy, I tell you what, she is just as feisty and perky as ever.
Really?
Oh, that's great news, Chuck.
It sure is.
Like I told reporters, she is raring to go, full of zest and vinegar, just zip-zapping around in her wheelchair, all over Capitol Hill like Sonic the Hedgehog.
Stay out of the way, I tell you.
There's a mad woman on the loose.
Figuratively, of course, she's not actually out of her mind.
Very lucid.
You know, I've heard she's already missed some votes today.
Can you assure us that she'll be at the Judiciary Committee hearing tomorrow?
Her vote is needed to confirm several justices.
Jimmy, I'm happy to say that I can say with absolute certainty that Senator Feinstein will be doing just fine, and she feels fine and up to the task of governing and representing the people of the great state of California.
Oh, I'm so happy, Senator.
You just dodged my question like you dodged reporters' questions about this very topic today.
No, no, he answered you.
I heard him.
Yes, asked and answered.
Anyway, I just wanted to pop in and say that Diane's doing fantastic.
Can I talk to her?
She's napping.
Gentlemen, what is this oligarchy of the elderly gotten?
This is getting ridiculous.
It's an open secret that Senator Feinstein is unable to perform her duties.
Well, if it's such a secret, why don't you keep your fucking mouth shut, Jimmy?
Hey, what are you guys arguing about?
Nothing, Joe.
I think it may be time for your nap, too.
Yeah, sounds like a good idea, actually.
I'll talk to you, boneheads later, okay?
2024.
All right, listen, you little shit.
What?
For better or for worse, we have doubled down on the olds both parties.
Have there's nothing to be done about it now.
So we have to do what we have to do.
Only old people have money anymore.
We need them as donors.
And they're not going to donate to some young punk who doesn't know who Glenn Miller was.
So butt out and let us do our thing.
All right, Senator.
I guess I'll just enjoy watching.
I can't wait until I'm a senile sitting senator so I can just forget of annoying you.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
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