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April 28, 2023 - Jimmy Dore Show
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This is the Jimmy Door show.
Aaron Matte speaking.
Aaron, this is Jake Tamper from CNN.
Why?
Hello, Jake.
From the lead with Jake Tapper.
Right.
On CNN.
Okay, yeah, I got it.
Which I'm happy to report is still a television program that exists for now, anyway.
That's right.
I hear that there have been some shake-ups over at your network, Jake.
Aaron, it's hard to believe.
In the course of the past year, I've seen Chris Cuomo get let go, then respected media titan Brian Stelter.
And now at long last, they have fired Don Lemon, the Walter Kronkite of our generation.
Nobody calls him that.
I know.
I just thought I'd say something nice.
But the lead with Jake Tapper is still on the air.
What do you attribute your longevity to?
Well, I'd have to say my commitment to journalistic integrity and always seeking the truth.
That and my ability to not say incredibly stupid shit on the air.
I see.
I mean, Aaron, let's be honest.
Everybody knows that women in their 50s are past their prime.
It's science.
But for Christ's sake, you don't go on the air and say that out loud.
What was Don Lemon thinking?
And sitting next to his two female co-hosts, what a dumbass.
Right.
And I mean, I get it.
As a society, we've decided that gay men are the only ones who get to roast women.
Everyone loves a candy gay man.
Usually they can say anything and get away with it, but not if you're hosting an AM news program.
Just because it's the morning doesn't make it brunch.
Good point.
Thank you.
I just hope he's at peace now.
He's not dead, Jake.
Well, he might as well be.
MSNBC isn't going to touch him, so chances are he'll have to go to one of these online news channels like poor Chris Cuomo did.
Perish the thought.
That's like the journalism version of getting banished to the Phantom Zone.
Are you worried at all about your own job security?
Not really, to be honest.
They barely even know I'm here, which is a good thing.
Means I'm not ruffling any feathers.
Every time I show up to an anchor meeting, people are like, who are you again?
Oh, no.
And I say, it's me, Jake Tapper, from the lead with Jake Tapper on CNN.
Right, right.
Got it.
And that's exactly what they say.
Do you think your time slot will remain the same?
Well, let's hope so.
I mean, the fewer changes, the better, the Tapmeister always says.
But again, I do perhaps see an opportunity.
Go on.
Well, if they don't replace Don on the morning show, I guess that would make sense.
Poppy Harlow and Caitlin Collins just doing their thing.
Two newsroom gals helming the AM time slot.
But if they wanted another man in there, I think I might be the fellow for the job.
Oh, really?
Of course.
It would be perfect.
See, Don's mistake is he wanted to bring in a hard-hitting news show.
Nobody wants that shit in the morning.
People want fluff.
They want punditry in the evening when they're pissed off about work and they hate everything and everyone.
I wouldn't make that mistake.
What would you do?
Though I'd give them fluff.
Make it a CNN version of Good Morning America.
Talk to celebrities.
Have people cook stuff and I'd eat it and I'd say yum.
Buy their cookbook.
News stories about cute animals.
I mean, for Christ's sakes, my co-anchors are named Poppy and Caitlin.
Program accordingly.
I see.
Yeah, dream job, really.
You can keep that career for decades as long as you don't have a terminal case of grab ass like Matt Lauer.
You get rich as long as you can keep your dick in your pants.
Sounds good to me.
I think you've seen your true career path, Jake.
Yeah, thanks, Aaron.
I appreciate it.
This is a tricky business.
Sure, you can get fired for saying dumb shit like Don Lemon did, but you also got to watch it with veering off the party line.
Talk about a war being bad that we're supposed to support?
That can mean your ass.
I've got a pretty good deal here where I can say that stuff.
Well, I'm envious, my young friend.
Those of us in the big leagues don't have that luxury.
Talking about what is actually happening in the world that matters.
It sounds nice, but it's a pipe dream.
That's why this morning shit seems so enticing.
Hey, if I do land this gig, do you want to be a guest sometime?
I mean, you can't talk about Ukraine or anything, but you can try some guy's fireball chicken recipe with us.
Thanks, but that's not really what I do.
Suit yourself.
Anyway, nice chat, but I gotta go.
As usual, the firing of an anchor has imbued Anderson Cooper with an energy surge, and the EMPs from its ego are threatening the structural integrity of the building, so we have to evacuate.
Probably not a big deal.
This happens every time, but better safe than sorry.
Ta-ta.
Bye, Jake.
Jake Tapper, everyone.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
Oh, good luck.
Bullshit.
We can't afford.
Fomenting this.
Watch and see as the jet go from medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.
It's the Chimitor Show.
Thank you.
Tucker Carlson and Fox News part ways.
This is from the Hill.
Tucker Carlson is part of Ways with Fox News Network said on Monday, we thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor.
Carlson's last show was Friday, the network said.
Tucker Carlson was Fox's top-rated primetime host, netting an average of more than 3 million viewers per night, the most of any pundit on cable television.
His departure from the network came less than a week after Fox agreed to pay $787 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Dominion Voting Systems over coverage of former President Trump's false claims of voter fraud in the company's software.
But here's this from the LA Times.
The decision to fire Tucker Carlson came straight from Fox Corps chairman Rupert Murdoch, according to people familiar with the situation.
Murdoch is said to be concerned over Carlson's coverage of the January 6th, 2021 protests at the Capitol, where the host has promoted the conspiracy theory that it was provoked by government agents.
So that's the line that people close to Rupert Murdoch are apparently giving that this was over Tucker Carlson's coverage of January 6th.
And certainly this was a surprise to Tucker Carlson because here he is on Friday night at the close of what turned out to be his last show.
And I'm especially grateful for the pie.
Thank you for having me.
Appreciate it.
Employee of the week, we're just making it of the year, Tyler Morrell of Cocos Pizza.
That's it for us for the week.
We'll be back.
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And we'll be back on Monday.
In the meantime, have the best weekend with the ones that you love, and we'll see you then.
Whoa.
Now get your pizzas and get out.
Now, can I just, can I just jump in and say that I challenge the veracity of that claim by the LA Times or what Rupert Burdock says, that the real reason why they're firing him is because of his January 6th coverage.
That's not why.
They're firing him for several reasons.
The biggest one was that he finally brought on RFK Jr. and they told the truth about Big Pharma.
Big Pharma funds news to 70%.
And so I'm guessing that was the last straw.
I also know that there is a split inside the Murdoch family.
And Rupert Murdoch has been wanting to get rid of Tucker for a while.
And so I guess there was just enough things.
And I think that the 70% advertisers coming down on them, Big Pharma, I think that was all it took.
What do you think, Aaron?
Well, Jimmy, here's a clip you're talking about.
Here's Lee Fong reporting it.
Tucker Carlson last week ripped Big Pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets, routinely parroting drug industry talking points.
Is there a single example of a CNN, MSNBC, or other Fox News host ever discussing TV advertising corruption?
No.
And here is, here's what Tucker said.
And try this at home.
Ask yourself: is any news organization you know of so corrupt that it's willing to hurt you on behalf of its biggest advertisers?
Anyone who does that is obviously Pablo Escobar level corrupt and should not be trusted.
What would that look like?
That level of corruption.
Wow.
Well, imagine that the Trump administration had made it mandatory for American citizens to buy my pillow.
That's one of Fox News' biggest advertisers.
Imagine the administration declared that if you didn't rush out and buy at least one MyPillow, and then at least another booster pillow, you would not be allowed to eat out.
You couldn't re-enter your own country.
You couldn't have a paying job.
My pillow, they told you with a straight face, was the very linchpin of our country's public health system.
Now, imagine as they told you that, that Fox, as a news organization, endorsed it, amplified the government's message.
Imagine if Fox News attacked anyone who refused to buy my pillow as an ally of Russia, as an enemy of science.
And then imagine that Fox kept up those libelous attacks, even as evidence mounted that my pillow caused heart attacks, fertility problems, and death.
If Fox News did that, what would you think of Fox News?
Would you trust us?
Of course you wouldn't.
You would know that we were liars.
Thank heaven, Fox News never did anything like that, but the other channels did.
The other channels took hundreds of millions of dollars from big pharma companies, and then they shilled for their sketchy products on the air.
And as they did that, they maligned anyone who was skeptical of those products.
At the very least, this was a moral crime.
It was disgusting, but it was universal.
It happened across the American news media.
They all did it.
So at this point, the question isn't who in public life is corrupt, too many to count.
Who is it?
The question is, who is telling the truth?
Oh, my God.
No one, no one.
I didn't see this.
No wonder they fired him.
Are you kidding me?
He laid it out.
He's giving the game away.
And he's the number one news show on a car.
And because, and the reason why Tucker Carlson is able to tell you this truth about how the advertising game works in corporate news is because they took away all his advertisers.
And so now he's free to say that kind of stuff.
But apparently he wasn't because the hammer came down from the top.
And this was, again, let me throw it to you, Aaron.
What do you think that this was?
Well, so he's, we have the clip there.
He's challenging big pharma, but also nobody on cable news was even close to him, comparable in challenging the war state.
Right.
Not even close.
No one covered the issues that he did.
And we'll get to that in our next segment.
He also featured leftist voices like us.
That's right.
Which nobody else.
Nobody would bring on.
And the reason why me, you, Glenn Greenwald, go on Tucker Carlson because MSNBC, CNN, ABC wouldn't bring people on who had an anti-war message or wanted to debunk RussiaGate.
Even Democracy Now stopped bringing people on to debunk Russia Gate, right?
They stopped bringing on you.
They stopped bringing on Stephen F. Cohen, the late Solomon becomes one of their top guests.
He was banned.
He was also welcome on Tucker's show.
Glenn Greenwald was banned from.
So, yeah, Tucker Carlson, this might blow a lot of shitlibs' minds, but Tucker Carlson doing way better journalism, especially the last couple years than everybody else combined in cable news.
They're all horrible.
He would tell the truth about Julian Assange.
He would tell the truth about Syria.
He would tell the truth about Venezuela.
He would tell the truth about Ukraine right now.
And now he's telling the truth about vaccines and how big pharma corrupted everything around COVID.
Here's Max Blumenthal.
Tucker Carlson, Fox's top-rated host and the most outspoken, influential critic of NATO's Ukraine proxy war, national TV, was fired just weeks after the 20th anniversary of MSNBC firing its top-rated host, Phil Donahue, for opposing the Iraq war.
U.S. cable news is regime media.
I just want to point out that I tweeted out the same sentiment before Max tweeted that out.
So that was, if you go track.
I had that.
I had that.
Look at his hair.
There it is.
So now there are zero people telling the truth about Ukraine or war in general on TV news.
Zero.
I also tweeted out a thing about Phil Donahue.
Okay.
So that was a big, nice pull for me.
I bet you Max copied me.
I'm sure he did.
Here's Glenn Greenwald.
Tucker was the cable host who most, and I would say only, opposed the U.S. proxy war in Ukraine.
Only one.
Who else?
No one else.
Zero.
If there was another person, we would know.
Absolutely.
Denounced the CIA, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security for its systemic lies and corruption, devoted himself to a pardon for Julian Assange, and also covered the issue of Julian Assange, which nobody else did.
That's right.
Objected to regime change efforts in Cuba, criticized Trump administration's militarism.
And I pointed out he also accurately covered and challenged the dirty war on Syria, including, I would argue, one of the most censored stories in history, the OPCW's Dumbo cover-up scandal, unlike everybody else on cable TV and almost all of leftist media.
And for all my disagreements with Tucker, immigration, China, domestic policy, it's just a fact on certain issues, really important issues, like Ukraine, neocon policy, the Syria dirty war, Julian Assange censoring dissenting voices.
He was more accurate and adversarial than anybody else on TV and even in most leftist media.
It's just, it's sad, but it's true.
And again, it would blow most people's minds to know that.
But, you know, he has higher, he has more Democrats watching him in the demo than MSNBC.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And there can't be that many people hate watching.
There can't be more people hate, more Democrats hate watching Tucker than are love watching Rachel Maddow.
Yep.
So, you know what I mean?
Okay.
And so that's why they, so cable news, as Chomsky pointed out, the news business is about manufacturing consent.
Well, Tucker stopped manufacturing consent on several several fronts.
He stopped manufacturing COVID consent, vaccine consent.
He stopped manufacturing consent about the war, which is one of the biggest.
So those are the two biggest things you can stop manufacturing consent about.
And so he's not useful to the machine anymore.
And that's why they took away all his advertising, but he was still useful to.
And so now that's that.
Go ahead.
You want to say something, Kurt?
I just saw some clip of him.
He must have just done this speech at like the Heritage Foundation defending the black socialists.
He got arrested.
I got that clip.
You show that.
Oh, that's another thing, too.
Yeah, he's the only one.
He blew the whistle on Russia Gate, right?
Absolutely.
He did.
He covered, he called bullshit on Russia Gate from the start and brought on leftists like us who would challenge it when other leftists, when leftist outlets would freeze us out.
But Wyatt Reid points this out that even though advertisers boycotted Tucker Carlson, because he was the highest rated host, he was still incredibly valuable to the network.
So Wyatt Reid says, Fox lost more money by firing Tucker Carlson than it's spent to settle the Dominion lawsuit already.
Shares of Fox Corps, the network's parent company, fell by 5% after the announcement of Tucker Carlson leaving, wiping $690 million from its market value.
And even though the Dominion settlement was more, Fox will ultimately pay less because they can write off some of the people.
They're going to get a tax cut break.
Is Fox going to replace him with Dylan Mulvaney?
So that's an example where the bottom line, it's not just about the bottom line.
Insofar as Tucker's stance against militarism influenced his firing, which I think it did, then the companies are not just there for their profits.
They're also there to enforce the state line.
That speaks to what Max said about this being regime media, whether it's Fox News or MSNBC.
And journalists, as you've noticed with the Twitter files and other things, they're not there to tell you the truth about anything, just like with COVID or the war or the Twitter files or censorship.
The journalists in America, 99.99% of them are there for narrative control and they can't wait to do it.
And so another name for that is manufacturing consent.
And so Tucker decided to stop manufacturing consent and he wasn't doing the narrative control.
In fact, they had to control his narrative.
And so now you know where he is.
But go ahead.
You have more to show?
Well, it's a lot more.
I mean, first of all, just to show, I mean, he's a weird dude.
I mean, for example, his views on immigration I found to be pretty vile.
So for example, this is some of the stuff you see.
So now here's where, yeah, here's where we can both wholeheartedly disagree with Tucker.
But that doesn't mean that I'm not going to stand with him to oppose nuclear war or censorship or authoritarianism from vaccine passports.
So here, let's watch.
Instead, our leaders demand that you shut up and accept this.
We have a moral obligation to admit the world's poor, they tell us, even if it makes our own country poorer and dirtier and more divided.
Immigration is a form of atonement.
Previous leaders of our country committed sins.
We must pay for those sins by welcoming an endless chain of migrant caravans.
That's the argument they make.
If it sounds like something that some dopey sociology professor at Long Beach State thought up half drunk in the 70s, you're right.
That's pretty much exactly what it is.
Yes, that's the stuff where, you know, when was this?
That's a few years ago, but that's the kind of stuff.
Was this when there was the caravan that was coming up from somewhere?
It was like a huge story for like a month.
Do you remember talking about it?
Yes, I do remember.
Maybe.
Yes, the caravan, they were all criminals.
Was it like the Bolt Mario Bolt Life again?
Was that what it was like?
Well, the joke I used to do is there are a thousand Hispanics.
They're all criminals and they're walking to America.
And I'm like, what kind of a criminal walks across Mexico the long way and then steals a car?
Right?
Those are some pretty remedial criminals.
I think we could absorb those.
So you object mostly to what he said about more immigrants make our country poorer and dirtier.
Yeah, I mean, no, because you hire so many of them as cleaning people, it doesn't add up.
That doesn't add up.
That doesn't add up at all.
Right?
So, yeah, so I would vehemently push back against that on him because I think immigrants actually make our country stronger.
Well, what is he saying?
If this is a few years ago, is that part of the reason he's going is not saying enough stuff like that and saying too much stuff like the other?
Well, hey, I mean, he certainly has in last few years.
He's generally done a lot more segments that are anti-war, pro-Julian Assange.
This is just a sample of some of the Julian Assange segments he did, which that right there is more than most other cable news shows combined.
Everyone else just ignores Julian Assange or cheers on his imprisonment.
Tucker Carlson not only covered it, but actually lobbied hard, the Trump administration, to give him a pardon, which also would bring me on to talk about it all the time, even when he didn't agree with me on that.
He let me come on his show and advocate for Julian Assange.
And that was nobody else to do that.
Here's Michael Tracy.
Fox News has eliminated the only reason why anyone under 40 pays any attention to Fox News.
That is true.
And, you know, and this idea that he was a Trump sycophant.
He wasn't.
It's just not true.
For example, Fox's Tucker Carlson breaks with colleagues and criticizes Trump's strike on Iranian generals.
When Trump sided again with his neocon cabinet, people like Tucker, Tucker Carlson was pretty much the only Republican voice, prominent one, to criticize that.
And here's Anya Parmpil.
She points this out.
I wrote in March, if the Dominion lawsuit succeeds in bankrupting Trump.
Backbucking Fox.
Sorry, Fox.
Or even casting Tucker Carlson as a network scapegoat, it will have succeeded in punishing the media's preeminent opponent of the escalating Ukraine proxy.
It is interesting that right after this Dominion settlement happens, he gets fired.
But what's interesting, he often gets accused of pushing Trump's claims about January 6th, but he didn't.
He pushed back on them.
This is a CNN media reporter pointing this out.
I didn't know that he did because the way I've, and even now I saw it get reported, it sounds like they do not mention that he was like, there's no evidence for this.
I know.
They never mentioned that.
I didn't know until we did the story.
He leaves the Dominion thing?
Yes.
I have no idea.
He's the only guy on his show who was saying the same thing he was saying off in this conversation.
Yes.
But the media leaves it apart, except for this one case.
This is Oliver Darcy.
He's a reporter with CNN.
This is one of the few times that an establishment media journalist will acknowledge this.
Tucker Carlson calls out Sidney Powell.
And this was the lawyer who was close to Trump and pushing all the stuff about vote rigging by Dominion.
Calls out Sidney Powell saying he asked her for evidence to support her election fraud claims, but she never sent us any evidence despite a lot of requests, polite requests, not a page.
And here he is.
He took Sidney Powell seriously.
We had no intention of fighting with her.
We've always respected her work.
We simply wanted to see the details.
How could you not want to see them?
So we invited Sidney Powell on this show.
We would have given her the whole hour.
We would have given her the entire week, actually, and listened quietly the whole time at rapt attention.
That's a big story.
But she never sent us any evidence, despite a lot of requests, polite requests, not a page.
When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her.
When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they told us Powell has never given them any evidence either, nor does she provide any today at the press conference.
Powell did say that electronic voting is dangerous, and she's right.
We're with her there.
But she never demonstrated that a single actual vote was moved illegitimately by software from one candidate to another.
Not one.
So why are we telling you this?
We're telling you this because it's true.
And in the end, that's all that matters.
The truth.
It's our only hope.
It's our best defense.
Now, imagine someone on MSNBC or CNN saying that about Russia.
We're telling you this.
There's no evidence of a Trump-Russia conspiracy or that Russia rigged the votes, hacked the votes, because it's the truth.
There's not one comparable personality on either of those networks, CNN or MSNBC, would ever say something like that.
No, that's, and again, people.
So look what they do with this to Joe Rogan.
They do it to Tucker Carlson.
As soon as they start telling the truth, everybody loved Tucker Carlson before when he wore a bow tie.
And he was repeating touch because you don't see talking points on Iraq war and all that.
They all loved him.
Rachel Maddo used to do a shoe with him.
Everybody loved him.
But then it's, but the problem is he started telling truth that they didn't like.
And so they have to, just like they did to the guitarist who got vaccine injured.
Captain Eric Lapton.
Yeah, they immediately go to he's a racist, he's a sexist, he's a racist.
Same thing they did to Bernie Sanders.
He's a sexist, he's a Russian.
So because, and it wasn't, it's not because of the stuff that they claim they don't like about Tucker.
It's that it's three years old, the one he showed.
That's right, because you talk about immigrants.
That was fine.
His job was not in jeopardy when he said that.
That's the kind of stuff that Bill and Hillary Clinton used to say about immigrants.
They used to say that stuff.
So again, yes.
Go ahead, over to you.
Well, yeah.
And look, here he is speaking recently talking about the media being part of the control apparatus.
This is unbelievable.
This is why they can let him go.
And even he even said, I'm part of the problem.
Oh, this is on full sense.
Like, I've spent my whole life in the media.
My dad was in the media.
Like, that is a big part of the revelation that's changed my life is the media are part of the control apparatus.
Like, there's no.
Yeah, no, I know, because you're younger and smarter, and you're like, yeah.
Yeah.
But what if you're me and you spent your whole life in that world?
And to look around and all of a sudden you're like, oh, wow.
Not only are they part of the problem, but I spent most of my life being part of the problem defending the Iraq war.
Like I actually did that.
Can you imagine if you did that?
Wow.
What do you think?
What is one of your biggest regrets in your career?
Oh, defending the Iraq war.
That is it.
I've had a million regrets, not being more skeptical, calling people names when I should have listened to what they were saying.
Look, when someone makes a claim, there's only one question that's important at the very beginning, which is, is the claim true or not?
So I say, you know, you committed murder or you rigged the last election before you attack me as a crazy person for saying that.
Maybe you should explain whether you did it or not.
And for too long, I participated in the culture where I was like, anyone who thinks outside these pre-prescribed lanes is crazy, is a conspiracy theorist.
And I just really regret that.
I'm ashamed that I did that.
And partly it was age, partly was the world that I grew up in.
So when you look at me and you're like, yeah, of course they're part of the means of control.
I'm like, that's obvious to you because you're 28, but I just didn't see it at all, at all.
And I'm ashamed of that.
Isn't that what the media?
So again, I think we did witness a red pilling of Tucker Carlson.
And that's why he became the focus of people trying to get him canceled because he went against the establishment narrative in such a hard way.
And by the way, as soon as he started doing that, his show became the most popular show on cable news because people are hungry for that kind of a message.
I'm sure people got a kick out of it when he brought on Anya Perrimpel or Aaron Mate or me to debunk the wars and to tell them a counter narrative that you're not going to hear on MSNBC, CNN, or anyplace else on Fox.
And as soon as he went against that, he became popular.
And as soon as he went against that, that's when the propaganda media smears against him came.
And that's when they tried to get, they took away all his advertisers.
That usually does it.
That got rid of Glenn Beck, but it didn't do it this time because he is so popular.
But then it finally came down from Rupert Burdock because it came down from, I'm sure, Big Pharma.
Yeah.
And his role in coverage of the Ukraine proxy war, there just was nothing else like it.
Nothing.
Nothing.
He constantly was bringing it to our voices.
And it wasn't just partisan.
So, you know, one could maybe think he was challenging the Ukraine proxy war because this is a Biden administration policy, right?
That if Trump was doing it, it might be different.
But he was just as critical of Republicans who were supporting the Ukraine proxy war as he was the Biden administration.
So, for example, here he is taking on Mitch McConnell.
Politicians in Washington remain mired in their weird boomer World War II fantasies where they're all Winston Churchill and Zelensky is the head of the French resistance.
Just to give a million examples.
But we can't resist, once again, the leader of the Republicans in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, last month.
I'm going to try to help explain to the American people that defeating the Russians in Ukraine is the single most important event going on in the world right now.
Defeating the Russians in Ukraine is not the single most important event in the world from the perspective of the United States.
It's not even number 15 on the list.
It's way below ending the importation of fentanyl into this country.
And it's way, way below preserving the strength of the U.S. dollar.
But if Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden and the rest of these reckless leaders have their way, an increasing number of countries will do what so many have already done, which is begin to reject the U.S. dollar.
And what will happen then?
Well, all those dollars will come home.
And the value of our currency will plummet even further.
And that will lead to poverty across the United States.
And that will lead to the typical political and cultural volatility that inevitably follows economic collapse, disaster.
And we've seen it before.
Of course, you know, the famous pictures from Germany in the early 20s, banknotes and wheelbarrows.
When I buy a cup of coffee, that'll be 30 pounds of currency.
Kids playing with worthless stacks of Deutschmarks.
That was called Weimar, the Weimar Republic.
And that government collapsed because of hyperinflation.
And then economic collapse led to communist revolutions across Germany and ultimately to fill in the blank the Nazi regime.
Wow.
No one is saying anything like that.
No one.
No, and again, nobody now.
And nobody on MSNBC will challenge the party leadership on anything.
No.
Anything.
And he was different when it comes to his own party.
And Curry, you mentioned this earlier.
And here's Alex Urbison pointing this out.
Tucker Carlson of all people at the Heritage Founded, at the Heritage Foundation of all places, denounces the DOJ for its prosecution of the African people's socialist party.
What statements have pro-Black Lives Matter Democratic Party leaders and liberal media talking heads made on the subject?
Whereas the squad.
That's wild.
This is Tucker just a few days ago.
That this week, the Department of Justice would have indicted a group of people, people I don't agree with, by the way, on a lot of different issues.
Black nationalist socialists from Florida, okay, kind of not my demographic, but would have indicted them for criticizing the U.S. position, the Biden administration's position on the war in Ukraine, and charged them with felonies for which they're each facing 10 years in prison.
If you told me that could happen here, I would have laughed at you.
No, we have a First Amendment.
That can't happen here, but it has that and a lot of other things, which are gravely unsettling, actually.
And people who were rooted in the Cold War story and the reality of the Cold War, again, my age, 53, kind of know where that goes.
Again, you're right.
You compare that to like the squad.
Where are they?
Nothing on this issue.
Nothing.
Black Lifestyle.
Nowhere.
Back when they got arrested, the only place I'd ever heard of those groups was here, like a year ago.
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That's why he's popular.
He's giving a counter narrative to the establishment claptrap.
That's what people want.
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I'm Mary Matte, sitting in for Jimmy Dore here with Americans comedian Kurt Metzger and special and studio guest Jimmy Dore.
Hi, it's good to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Guys are doing fantastic work.
Thanks for being here.
And here is some sad news to report.
Harry Belafonte dies, barrier-breaking singer, actor, and activist, Harry Belafonte, dying at the age of 96, well known as an entertainer, but also as an activist, a key figure behind the civil rights movement.
I was a close friend of Dr. King's, helped fund his movement and has stayed very close to the King family ever since.
Well, Harry Belafonte was an outspoken activist on so many issues, and here he is speaking about the Democratic Party.
You know, the last thing Dr. King said to me before he was murdered was in my home when we were sitting planning strategies for the poor people's campaign, which was on the horizon of the politics of the day.
That's why he went to Memphis.
And in the course of that meeting, he seemed distracted and a little on the underfocused.
And when we asked him what was the matter, Martin said, you know, I've been thinking long and hard about our struggle.
We worked tenaciously for our rights.
And the culmination of all that effort will be reflected in what we've come to call the integration movement.
And I sit here deeply concerned that I suspect we're leading our nation on an integration trip that has us integrating into a burning house.
Well, bam!
Bam!
Keep going, keep going.
I don't think we quite understood how pathetic that remark was.
After all, we're in the midst of a very heady moment in our struggle.
We were winning on a lot of frontiers.
Bull Connor had been confronted.
The bus boycotts had worked.
Votes were coming.
Even Lyndon Maynes Johnson had been stuck by the spirit and got up and talked about we shall overcome in the Congress.
And for Dr. King to have been in this place at a time when we seemed to be making great headway was a moment to pause and reflect.
That reflection has taken longer than I had suspected it would, but it has certainly come to reveal itself fully when we look at the condition in which we find not only our world, but in particular our nation.
The wreckage that is taking place down in the Gulf region, the southwest part of the United States, is not the only wreckage that exists.
We have a lot of wreckages around this country.
And perhaps the most distracting and perhaps the most important wreckage to take a look at is really the wreckage of the Democratic Party.
Thank you.
And Harry Belafonte is saying this as he's sitting next to then candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
I don't know if she was.
Oh, yeah, she did run in 2008.
Yeah.
Yeah, correct.
Oh, yeah.
It's wrecked really bad.
She's going totally.
And just keep in mind, things have only gotten 100 times worse since when he said all this stuff.
And he's saying it right in their faces.
And he's the real deal.
And he doesn't yet know Barack Obama is a phony.
Go ahead, Keaton.
Get him to the stage.
I've been a Democrat all my life.
I have no, I have no treaty with the Republicans.
Nor do I, nor do I really seek one.
But the Democratic Party was not always our friend.
As a matter of fact, a lot of what we had to struggle against was in the possession and the power of Democrats who came from the South.
And Wendy showed them the tenaciousness and the conviction and the sense of great purpose that the people of this nation had into transforming our condition.
All those Democrats from the South ran off and became Republicans as an act as an act of punishment for what we were trying to achieve as a people.
And that punishment continues to play itself out.
Eleanor Roosevelt was a close friend.
And once sitting in Hyde Park with her, she told a story about a great black leader by the name of A. Philip Randolph.
He was one of the great giants Of the century, certainly one of the great thinkers.
And she recalled an evening when A. Philip Randolph was invited to a dinner at the White House.
And just him, her, and the president, Franklin Roosevelt.
During the course of the dinner, the president invited Mr. Randolph to speak.
His thoughts.
And for a long time, A. Philip Randolph held forth on every list of grievances he could think of.
For the people of the labor movement, for the people who were poor, the black people.
And Roosevelt permitted him to hold forth without any interruption until he concluded.
At the end of it, Roosevelt reached for a box of cigars, passed one around.
Philip, and as he slowly lit the cigar, he turned to Philip Randolph.
He said, Philip, let me tell you, I've heard everything you've said.
I've missed absolutely nothing.
And there's nothing that you've said that I disagree with.
And I do, in fact, have the platform to be able to make the transformation work that you're looking for.
And I guess we're all looking for.
I have just one request of you.
And it is for you to go out and make me do it.
It seems to me that there will be no loftier statements and no greater speeches to be made than have already been made.
Certainly, Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, Fannie Lou Hamer down in Atlantic City, when she challenged with the Freedom Mississippi Democratic Party.
There are a lot of people who have made speeches that are as eloquent as would ever be written.
And we've listened to a lot of redundancy.
A lot of people who've carefully selected the phrases and applied them to the moment.
I think he's talking about Obama.
I think he's talking about Obama, too.
What eludes us is the bankruptcy of the action itself.
This poverty that our country is witnessing has never gone away.
Most of the politicians I know of have visited these places of poverty.
They make it their business when they're running for the highest office in this nation to go into the heart of our pain, our anguish, our indignities, and make promises only to walk into the places of power and then deny us.
Exactly.
That's exactly what both those people did sitting next to him.
That's exactly what both those people did sitting next to him.
Barack Obama used those phrases, applied them from the 50s and 60s, applied them to his campaign, but he didn't have any action behind him.
So he's talking about the bankruptcy of the action.
And there it is.
I mean, he's saying it right.
And he's predicting that with Barack Obama's presidency, and it came true.
Okay, let's see what he has to say.
Oh, is that it?
That's it.
Okay.
Wow.
That was, and he said it right in front of him.
And that was in 2007.
During that primary, yeah.
Yeah.
With Hillary and Obama.
Yep.
And they just sit there and they're like, hey, we're all, we're phonies.
And he doesn't get it.
He's an actor.
The actor is the guy who's more real, the guy who plays pretend for a living is more real than the politicians who are supposed to be actually solving our problems.
And of course, they're all about self-dealing.
And Barack Obama also was.
Is that why he's called Ugly Showbiz or Ugly Hollywood?
I think so.
That was amazing to hear him say, is there anything worth salvaging in the Democratic Party?
And there isn't.
That part where he talks about the tactic of sounding really noble and lofty by repackaging old speeches and old rhetoric to sound.
It's like Obama heard that part.
He was like, all right, yeah, I think I'll do that.
I'll keep doing that.
It's a good idea.
It's a good idea.
Say what you want, Harry.
It works.
It really works.
I'm going to become president before you don't.
Harry's recognizing my talent.
So we lost a real one when we lost Harry Belafonte.
You know, Cornell West and Tavis Smiley, during President Obama's tenure as president, they went on a poor people's campaign around the country.
And of course, when they would go on CNN, they would mock them.
Yeah, right.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
Barack Obama, everybody loves him.
They're like, he's not doing anything for anybody.
And because he was governing like Mitt Romney, right?
That was the irony.
The joke I used to do was that, you know, we had to, they told us I had to vote for Barack Obama or else I was going to get Romney care.
So I made sure I voted for Barack Obama and we got Romney care.
If you're given a choice of two Mitt Romneys, you're not going to vote for the black Mitt Romney?
That's racist.
laughter Okay, let's see what else you got on there.
Here's Harry Belafonte during the Vietnam War era.
I fought in the Second World War.
I was in the United States Navy.
I was told then, and I fought with the knowledge that this was the war to end all wars.
That we were going to defeat fascism and mankind could turn its attention to the best that was in man.
God damn.
Now I come and my son is 10 years old, and I will arm him with everything that I can so that he will be free of any primitive medieval, you know, concepts about false patriotism, about boundaries, about the meaning of flags.
You know, mankind is much bigger than all of these primitive symbols.
And I don't want to see my boy with his face stuck in some rice patty, off in Vietnam or off in some other land, protecting the interests of the establishment and trying to reward their greed with his life.
I'm opposed to it.
And I don't want him to be armed with a sense of being able to go off and destroy another human being anywhere in the world whom he's never known.
It's inhuman.
It's terrible.
And the reason I hang around is to make sure that in my old age, if I live to see it, that I will be able to say that in my lifetime, I did all that I could with what was at my disposal because I would hate for my children to look at me and to say, where were you during the moment of the great decision?
Wow.
Wow.
So again, he was a real one.
And he did stop.
And maybe that's why you never saw him on MSNBC or CNN since 2008.
Maybe that's why, because he was going to poke a hole in their neoliberal bubble.
And that's why they stopped bringing on Glenn Greenwald.
And Matt Taibbi.
Okay.
What else you got for me?
Here's a thread from Michael Harriet on Twitter.
Top 10 crazy stories about Harry Belafonte.
There was a time when he hopped on a plane with a bag stuffed with $70,000 and dodged the Ku Klux Klan to save the Mississippi Freedom Summer.
Really?
There was the fact that because he was cool with the black power leaders and the nonviolent resistance advocates, his apartment was basically the spot where civil rights leaders settled their beef.
Belafonte was so paranoid about being spied on and mistrusting women that he went to therapy.
He eventually hired his therapist's husband who managed Frank Sinatra as his manager.
His paranoia eventually made him fire them both.
Harry Belafonte was the one who bailed out MLK in Birmingham when he wrote the infamous letter from a Birmingham jail condemning white moderates.
He also funded the Freedom Rides.
Belafonte never took credit for the idea alone, but he helped push the idea of sending white kids down to Mississippi for Freedom Summer and the Freedom Rides, which he helped fund.
One of those was John C. Reigns, a white minister who was a freedom rider and at Freedom Summer.
Reigns was just an advocate for peace, was not just an advocate for peace, I think he meant to say, until he was arrested on Reigns was just an advocate for peace until he was arrested on the Freedom Rides.
Then a white kid just like him was murdered during Freedom Summer.
Then Viola Luizo happened.
Then white terrorists and Selma killed James Reeb, a minister like Reigns.
He was radicalized.
On March 8th, 1971, while Belafonte was watching the Ali Frazier fight, Reigns and his friends broke into the FBI office in Media, Pennsylvania, and stole a bunch of files.
The files they stole were the first solid evidence of COINTELPRO.
It's how we know about Gary Rowe.
Rowe was a Klansman and a paid FBI informant who probably participated in the 16th Street Baptist bombing, the attack on the Freedom Riders, the murder of Viola Luiso, among other things.
It's how we know the FBI was spying on King, the Black Panthers, and the civil rights movement.
It's how we know the FBI, it's how we know the FBI willed Fred Hampton and Marcus Garvey and every significant black movement that ever existed.
I think that shit, you know, undermined, or in the case of Fred Hampton, killed Fred Hampton and every significant black movement that ever killed.
I think he meant to say killed.
How did they do it?
Well, someone infiltrated the inner circle of civil rights leaders from every generation and was reporting it back to the CIA FBI.
So, you know, this is Harry Belafonte's role in so many significant historical events and exposing so many crimes.
Boy, that FBI, huh?
Those guys, they're always up to something.
I like their king quote posters.
Remember that?
Their new, what do you call it?
Marketing for the words of Dr. King.
The FBI was doing that?
Yeah, we co-showed it on here.
Did we covered it?
Yeah, there was like a joke about them spying on him.
He's got some points.
Jesus Christ.
And this is why we showed that note about Harry Belafonte's therapist because it turns out this: the therapist and her husband were spies.
Oh, no.
Jay Richard Kennedy was one of the main sources for the FBI until he started a cult.
It's crazy.
So Harry Belafonte's therapist was apparently a spy.
Oh, so he was right to fire.
Absolutely.
And so Frank Sinatra's manager was a spy.
Makes sense to me.
Yep.
Yep.
Well, because he was in bed with Kennedy.
And I'm sure they want to keep.
Also, they had the connections with the mafia, the since back then.
And they used the mafia to help.
Who's that mafia guy that all those ones that are really bad killers?
They always had like a connection with somebody.
Sammy Giancana.
Well, the guy that went for, he ended up dying at like AIDS because he, but he, the Mississippi Burning, when the mob guy goes, you know, it's based on that.
They sent Scarpa.
His name's Scarpa.
The Grim Reaper was his nickname.
And he did something horrendous during the, after those, those white kids got killed for going down for the Mississippi thing.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
No, I don't know.
I don't.
Mississippi Burning's about that thing he was talking about.
Those kids getting killed.
Oh.
It's fictionalized, but it's based on that.
But those freedom rides, there were two white kids and two blacks that got killed by Klansmen.
I think the sheriff was in on it.
And this Scarpa was sent down there by the FBI and tortured somebody and got some kind of information.
Really?
Greg Scarpa, that's his name.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the FBI, the CIA, the mob, they work together all the time.
This is what Whitney Webb books are about.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, well, that's, I mean, didn't they have something to do?
Well, the Cook County, right?
I mean, that's what got JFK elected.
That's what a lot of people point to, right?
All the mobsters that now, I don't know if you know the whole mafia as a podcast now, but they give you all the backstory.
The talk is, they felt like we could put this guy in office and then what his brother is going to come down on us and they didn't like him.
Here's one more clip.
I've never seen this one.
During the taping of We Are the World, around 2 a.m., Al Jarou, Ray Charles, Smokey Robinson starts singing Mr. Belafonte's signature song, the Banana Boat song, with Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones and Bob Dylan all around.
We wanna go home.
Oh, man.
That day.
He had come and we wanna go home.
Wait, is this the one Justin Trudeau covered?
He had come and we wanna go home.
Give me a bun bun.
Yes, I do.
All right, banana.
He had come and we wanna go home.
He's high deep in me.
Black Tarantra said he's singing.
right there it's an algebraic Al Jeroux, okay, stop.
I've had it up to Harry Belafonte.
I mean, I mean, Al Jaro.
I was never a big Al Jaroux fan.
He's a Jehovah's Witness.
Is he?
I don't know if he is now, but he was when I was a kid.
Yeah, that's why I only, that's the reason I would know.
I never wanted to go dancing in the garden.
Is that what it was?
That was his big song.
Is anyone wanted that garden?
Is anyone wanted that?
Remember that song?
No, my robe.
Well, that was my era.
I'm older than I was.
Harry Belafonte should have sang that song.
Yeah, yeah.
So I, yeah, anyway.
So.
Well, that's it.
That's our tribute to Harry Belafonte.
Harry Belafonte, what a legend.
Do you think we'll ever have, do you think we'll ever have celebrities like that again?
No.
I don't think so.
Well, we do.
Well, we have Ben Stiller and John Penn.
I mean, come on.
Oh, I'm sorry.
There'd be guys who go and push back against the CIA and the FBI, like Harry Belafonte, instead of being in bed with them.
That's crazy that that's true, that they were spies.
Isn't that crazy?
Oh, he was kind of paranoid.
I saw the first part and I was like, Jesus.
You think Harry Belafonte called up Sean Penn and before he died and said, hey, what the fuck?
Wouldn't that be nice?
Or Ben Stiller, at least.
But Ben Stiller's a real heartbreaker for me because I really love his movies.
too.
It's a fantastic comedy.
I love Young Frankenstein, too.
Not in the mold of Harry Belafonte, that's for sure.
No, these guys today, they're all soft.
They're all soft.
John Penn.
Was he a saint, like a music guy first, and then an actor?
Harry Belafonte?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he sang that song.
Yeah, so because that was his big song.
Those guys are like actors first, aren't they?
There's something about people that get into acting things that they have more balls a little bit.
People, yeah, I get, well, yeah.
Actors are so purely a certain way.
Yeah, Frank Sinatra is a singer.
Then he became an actor.
Same thing with Dean Martin and stuff like that.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah.
Like, it's just the attitude of like being a sycophant to the feeling of, I don't know.
There's just something about pure actors that makes them great as like puppets for psychs, you know.
Yeah, for the intelligence community.
They sure are.
Man, there's what's my motivation?
Tell me.
To do the bidding of the establishment, Sean.
Okay, all right.
Let me pump up.
I got to do some acting.
Mm-mm.
Beep.
Hey, this is Aaron Matte sitting in for Jimmy Dore.
Aaron, my man.
My main man, how are you?
I'm doing well, Mr. President.
How about yourself?
Aaron, my man, I'm excited beyond belief.
About the fact that you finally announced your 2024 presidential candidacy?
No.
About the new trailer for the flash that just dropped.
Keaton is Batman again.
Aaron, I never thought I'd see the day.
Not in a million years.
It's just so fucking cool to see.
Also, I'm running for president 2024.
So I've heard.
And I'm sure you have a bunch of wise guy questions.
Wise guy questions?
You know what I mean.
All you little Weisenheimers, you like to criticize me all the time.
Have all these little gotcha questions about my upcoming campaign.
Well, let me just cut you up at the past and answer them for you.
Yes, I am wearing pants right now.
And if I weren't, yes, I would know where to find some.
Okay, well, that's good.
And yes, Kamala Harris will be my running mate.
Are you sure that's a good idea?
No, but it's the least bad idea.
What do you mean?
Listen, what options do I have?
Drop the first female vice president in American history from the ticket?
Not smart.
And then what?
Replace her with a man?
I'd lose half the woman vote right there.
I'd have to replace her with a woman.
But then you could be responsible for the second female U.S. vice president in history.
Yeah, yeah, but who?
There are no women.
What do you mean?
Women, women.
What?
What women?
I don't mean women.
Where do you even meet women these days, anyway?
On the computer?
Not for me, Jack.
Never been my bag.
All right, moving on.
Let's cut to the chase.
Don't you think you're too old to do this?
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
Now, here we go with this shit.
It's a legitimate question.
Is it really?
Come on, man.
What if someone said that to you?
How do you know you're not too old for what you're doing?
I'm too whole.
I'm too old to host an online news program.
I mean, I'm not saying that.
What do I know?
Maybe.
I don't know how shit works.
But how would you feel if someone said that?
You'd feel crummy.
Is everyone trying to make me feel crummy?
Well, it's not going to work.
President Biden, goddammit.
It's not about trying to make you feel crummy, Mr. President.
It's about genuine concerns about your ability to fulfill your duties as commander-in-chief.
I'm 80 years old for Christ's sakes, not 100.
I'm as spry as a spring chicken.
Dr. Sam in great shape.
Why, I bet I could so round the bass is almost as fast as that time I saw Onis Wagner do it when I was a teenager.
Well, that's great, but that's not even what matters.
We had a four-term president in a wheelchair once.
We don't need you to be spry.
We need you to be cognitively sharp.
Oh, oh, okay.
All right, so that's what this is about.
I see.
I see.
Wait, what was the question again?
Are you mentally fit to be president?
Honestly, no.
What?
I mean, I'm going to be honest with you, Andy.
Things are kind of slowing down up here, but that's not the point.
The point is, and I'll let you know a little secret here.
This being president shit isn't really that hard.
You don't need to be sharp to do it.
You got a team surrounding you at all times telling you what to do and say.
And the decisions you pretend to make have been made, they've been decided a long time ago.
Really?
Yeah, really.
The president doesn't really do shit.
He's just there to make half the people think they had something to do with the government that they have.
Whole thing is a rigged scam.
But at least a handful of people are getting seriously fucking rich off of it.
So that's nice, at least.
It's astonishing that you are coming out and saying this.
I mean, normally that'd be something a president would be assassinated for saying.
But whatever.
It's just you and me talking here.
And I trust you, Amos.
You're good people.
Mr. President, this is a live stream.
Thousands of people are listening.
Fucking what?
Yeah.
Where's Jimmy?
I thought.
I'm sitting in for Jimmy today.
We've been live this whole time.
I thought you were the guy that I chatted with before that I talked to Jimmy.
Oh, oh, no.
Oh, no.
Ha ha ha.
I was just joking.
That was just my Irish sense of humor talking.
Dark, full of untruths, and not particularly funny.
I see.
Also, I have dementia real bad.
A real nasty case.
You can't believe anything I say.
Full of delusions.
Why, just the other day, I thought Kamala Harris was a pair of pants, and I tried to put her on.
Got pretty awkward.
Is that so?
Yeah, totally true.
So, anyway, I have to go now.
You know, next time tell me when you're recording, okay?
And that you're not Jimmy Dore.
I need to be reminded of these things.
Okay, okay.
All right.
Bye.
Okay, we'll do, Mr. President.
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