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Jan. 20, 2023 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Beep.
*phone rings*
Hey, this is Jimmy Door.
Who's this?
Jimmy is present.
Joe Bite.
Oh, hi, Mr. President.
You're back.
Thank God.
I was so fucking confused last week.
I was talking to some guy who wasn't you.
I felt like I was in outer space, man.
Yes, that must have been very confusing for you, Mr. President.
Hey, Jimmy.
Yeah.
You wouldn't have any documents on it, would you?
Government documents?
No, of course not.
Why would I have those here?
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it's the wrong shot, but you wouldn't believe where we're finding some of these things.
There's really no rivalries to it.
We found some in my neighbor's garage, for Christ's sake.
Wow.
Yeah.
And a classified memo about Ukraine popped up at a cane chicken outside of Parksville, Tennessee.
We must have dropped it there at a campaign shop in 2020.
It was lodged behind the deep fryer the whole time.
And big thanks to Alert Citizen and Night Manager Darius T. Hogg for bringing it to our attention.
Bye.
Bye.
*laughter*
Well, this is certainly something.
Yeah, we're even finding some of these damn papers in various state and local government buildings.
So now the Attorney General of Vermont knows about the aliens that we have in storage.
So needless to say, we're going to have to arrange a little accident for her.
This whole damn thing is one big mess, Jimmy.
It sounds like it.
How are you dealing with the blowback from this scandal?
Blaming Republicans.
What?
Why?
Well, what the hell else are we going to do, Kazakugu?
It's the best place.
How?
Well, obviously, they're making a big deal of it.
As they well should.
All right, settle down, Scritty Politty.
They're squawking like a bunch of crazy birds about these pape papers.
They're just papers, Jimmy.
So our strategy is to make this you not about the papers, but how the GOP is trying to politicize what should be a routine investigation into a run-of-the-mill follow-up.
I see.
How deft.
I can hear just fine, asshole.
So once again, we just make them look unreasonable.
That's the way.
It's always been the way.
So I guess Trump's documents aren't a big deal then either, huh?
All right, that's different.
He had them at his place and he knew they were there.
I didn't know anything about shit, as usual.
And my damn papers are all over the country.
And that's better somehow.
Wait, didn't you do this joke last week?
How the hell am I supposed to remember last week, Even Ozen?
What?
All right, stand alive, Mr. President.
I got another call coming in.
Hey, this is Jimmy Door's show.
Jimmy's speaking.
Oh!
Hello, Jimmy.
This is former Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Oh, hi, Governor.
I understand you have the president on the round.
My mind.
Hi, Andy.
Mr. President, as it so happens, I was just in my storage locker where I keep all my crap that I had to move out of the governor's mansion like a nasty divorce.
And lo and behold, what do I find in a file box but a file labeled classified?
God damn it.
And I was very confused because there were no state-level classified documents.
So this couldn't have been a New York file.
So what in the world could it be?
All right, quit dragging this out and get to the point.
No, please keep dragging it out.
This is fun.
Shut up, Jimmy.
Well, I open up this file.
And what do my little eyes see?
But a bevy of time.
But a bevy of documents from your vice presidency.
Imagine my surprise.
Right?
Oh, okay.
Just hand them over, will you?
Hold on now, not so fast.
What are they worth to you?
They belong to the government, Cuomo.
Oh, you might want this one for yourself.
All right, what's your about?
What's the subject heading?
Oh.
Ah!
you you Bye.
Thank you.
Ukraine?
A little worse.
Oh, shit.
What?
Yemen!
Oh, snap!
Yeah, all right.
I'll send somebody over to get that data.
Well, now, hold on.
I'm going to need a favor for you, Mr. President.
I may have some problems that I need to go away.
You think you can help me with that, Joe?
For the file?
Yeah, yeah, would look all right.
Whatever you need.
Just all right, not on the live stream, okay, asshole.
All right.
Plus you're doing business with you, Mr. President.
See, Jimmy, I love it when my colleagues in the Democratic Party can be reasonable for a change.
Yeah, what a shocking turn of events.
Okay, gentlemen, I need to get going.
Could you two please just take your shocking Malfasians elsewhere?
Fine.
And you just call me on the other phone, okay?
You know, the other one.
Bye, Jimmy.
Don't tell anyone about this, goddammit.
Yeah, Jimmy.
This is a little secret between bulls.
Government bulls.
Bye-bye.
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It's the chimney door show.
Here's somebody who I thought also got it.
Remember AOC when she, before she was in Congress, she used to say things like this: the Democratic Party does not do more unless it is pushed.
So we need to push them.
And they don't like it.
I think I annoy them, but in that, but that is our job.
That's our job.
Hmm.
Hmm.
She voted to expand NATO, voted to fund the Iron Dome, voted for the CARES Act, voted for $40 billion to Ukraine, deferred to caucus leadership on a coup, voted to give cops more money, wouldn't fight for Medicare for all in a pandemic because 15-hour was more doable, and didn't fight for that either.
Just to let you know.
And hey, is Alexandria Casio-Cortez an inside her now?
Yes.
And this is the proof.
Here's the proof.
So someone asked her about, because what the right wing just did, you all saw Matt Gates and a handful of right-wingers extracted amazing concessions for their vote for Speaker.
That's what they were supposed to do two years ago for Force to Vote, and they didn't.
I mean, meaning her and the squad.
They could have done the exact same thing.
They could have gotten all kinds of concessions because Nancy Pelosi couldn't become Speaker without their vote.
So somebody asks her on a live stream, hey, why didn't you do, why didn't you do the same thing that they did two years ago?
Oh, boy.
You ready?
Here we go.
And it really goes to show how much you need of a coalition in order to really forcefully negotiate for these things.
So when people say, you know, why don't we do this?
First of all, there's a lot of cost and dysfunction.
Second of all, those people who are holding out right now, they may have made certain structural gains, but they have also made incredible reputational and relational harm within their caucus.
And so if you are trying to get something done within your caucus moving forward, you still need members of your caucus.
And that at the core is an element of electoral politics that is simply inescapable.
So I don't know if you realize what she's doing.
But what she's doing here is she's coming out of the closet and she is officially renouncing her bring the ruckus.
Remember, you got to bring a ruckus.
You got to push the Democratic Party.
She is officially renouncing that persona and she's admitting that she's an institutionalist working within the Democratic Party.
Here we go.
Even when you look at someone like Bernie Sanders' tenure in the House, where he was the amendment king, you needed your party to pass your amendments.
And so, you know, you have this faction that is in a lot of trouble moving forward, including despite having made certain structural gains.
So I'll tell you what she just said again.
The Freedom Caucus won, she says.
But they really lost because now everybody hates them.
And then how are they going to get things done now that everybody hates them?
They already got everything done they wanted done.
They got it.
And now those people who did that, who withheld their vote for McCarthy from Speaker and got those concessions, now they have an even stronger hand in negotiating moving forward now that they've demonstrated that they will vote together as a block and hold firm until they get what they want.
They actually have more power.
But according to AOC, it's not about using your leverage to get things you want.
It's about making friends with other legislators in your party.
That's what she's saying.
She's saying, oh, now a lot of people don't like them, are angry at them.
Yeah, we didn't send you there.
It's not a prom.
We sent you there to do a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party.
And now she's just admitting, I'm an institutionalist, you guys.
I work in on the inside.
It's not, we're never going to cross the party.
Now, you heard what she said.
Now watch this.
What the Bronx and Queens needs is Medicare for all.
We can do it now.
It takes political courage.
Start bringing the ruckus on the Democratic Party.
That is our job.
It's great that everyone thinks these issues are important.
We need to make them urgent.
This country has only ever changed for the better by groups of people that were willing to put everything on the line for a better future.
That's how we got the civil rights movement, the women's rights movement.
That's how we got the labor movement, queer rights and marriage equality.
It didn't happen by people playing it safe.
We have to give it all we got.
Don't people realize that the most powerful position you can be in is when you are not materially attached to a position of power?
If you're a one-term Congress member, so what?
You can make 10 years worth of change in one term if you're not afraid.
The Democratic Party does not do more unless it is pushed.
So we need to push them.
And they don't like it.
I think I annoy them, but in that, but that is our job.
That's our job.
All of Washington is not incentivized, on the whole, not incentivized to work in actually expediting guaranteed healthcare in the United States.
Now, does that mean it's not going to happen?
Absolutely not.
Because mass movement organizing can force it to happen.
Force it to happen.
Do not trust any political party to automatically work in your interest.
I call on everybody in independent media to join this mission.
Force it to happen.
Force the Congress to show which side are they really on.
No vote for Nancy Pelosi unless Medicare for all is put on the House floor for a vote.
Start bringing the ruckus on the Democratic Party.
So now she says, oh, I can't, I can't be, I got to be nice to people.
They got it.
We got to work together.
We got to be united.
I got to play an inside game.
The people who did that, they caused a ruckus.
No, nobody likes them.
So here she's, she's going to go on.
She has more.
I mean, this was like very bloody.
Like, think of it like a really bloody bar fight.
Like no one comes out with all their teeth without any broken noses.
Like, you know, everyone has had some blood drawn and we haven't even been sworn in yet.
As opposed to the Democratic caucus.
Now, the strength here, when you are in a minority, the play here is to be united as much as possible.
Because if you don't have people who break, then you can pick off the other side with just a matter of a handful of people.
So as long as Democrats don't remain united in a minority, then all the votes you need to win on a certain thing are, depending on how a margin is, three, four, or five.
So again, listen to what she's saying.
So when you're in the majority, like they were for the last two years, that's when you don't need to hang together as a party.
When in the past two years, when in the past two years did the squad ever break with the Democratic Party, or do you have to do whatever the party tells you, whether you're in the minority or in the majority?
So when you're in the minority, that's when you have to vote together.
What about when you're in the majority?
That's when you have to vote together because that's what they did.
They voted together the whole time.
When are you ever allowed to break and go against your party?
So according to AOC, the way to achieve progressive objectives in the next two years, what she just said.
So if the, now that the Democrats are in the minority, they just need to pick off a few Republicans and then they can pass legislation that they like.
I'm not kidding.
That's what she's saying.
So the way to achieve progressive objectives in the next two years is by getting Republicans to vote for them.
That's her big idea.
That's what she's saying.
Which progressive goals are going to get support from the entire Democratic caucus and also a half a dozen Republicans.
What progressive idea?
What?
Everybody in the Democratic Party plus about a half a dozen Republicans.
What idea is that?
Nothing.
There's no idea except funding Ukraine.
Not funding America.
She goes on.
You know, and people say Lauren Bobert has more spine than you.
Lauren Bobert won her race by 500 votes.
Lauren Boebert took a Trump plus, what, nine district and nearly lost it to an up-and-coming Democrat as an incumbent member of Congress.
Lauren Boebert is dramatically weakened, dramatically weakened.
And the people of Colorado nearly sent her packing.
If 500 people voted differently that day, this would not be happening right now.
And so, you know.
Lauren Bobert is elected.
500 people didn't vote the other way.
She then used her leverage to get concessions from the powerful.
She did it.
And she's saying, you better not do that because she might lose her seat next time.
What happened to this?
Don't people realize that the most powerful position you can be in is when you are not materially attached to a position of power?
If you're a one-term Congress member, so what?
You can make 10 years worth of change in one term if you're not afraid.
I want to, let me play this again.
You know, and people say Lauren Boebert has more spine than you.
Lauren Boebert won her race by 500 votes.
Lauren Boebert took a Trump plus, what, nine district and nearly lost it to an up-and-coming Democrat as an incumbent member of Congress.
Lauren Boebert is dramatically weakened, dramatically weakened.
And the people of Colorado nearly sent her packing.
If 500 people voted differently that day, this would not be happening right now.
And so, you know, if you're a Republican, if you're a hard-standing Republican, she almost cost you your majority.
Wait, what?
Don't people realize that the most powerful position you can be in is when you are not materially attached to a position of power?
If you're a one-term Congress member, so what?
You can make 10 years worth of change in one term.
So that is what's called a 180.
That's what's called a 180.
Lauren Boebert is doing what she just said that she's supposed to do.
And AOC sounds like a Republican.
Oh, you can't go against your party.
You have to fall in line.
You can't just do what you want and extract concessions from the party.
You have to go along with the party.
You have to be friendly with these people because then you might lose your seat.
I thought you didn't care about losing your seat.
No, that's all she cares about.
That's it.
She just admitted it.
One more.
You know, this idea that they are somehow winning, let's just also take a step back.
So this is how humiliated they are.
They have to pretend like Matt Goetz in the right wing didn't just have a crushing victory, which is what they got.
A crushing victory, which embarrasses them.
So now she has to do this and look like an idiot.
But she knows that the white suburban college educated women in suburbia are going to eat it up.
They don't know what the fuck she's talking about.
They just know they like to like championing the woman of color from the Bronx.
They think it's a virtue signal, makes them feel good about themselves.
I'm better than those darn Republicans.
I'm a good person.
And observe that none of these debates resulted in any policy substance.
None.
That's not true.
That's not true.
She's lying.
This is not a caucus that is organized.
The Freedom Caucus is not organized around any core policy issue.
That's not true.
That's not true either.
So they got, you know how the Democrats had pay Go.
The Republicans have cut go.
They got that, which means that you can't spend any more money unless you cut money somewhere else.
And you can't raise, they got to cut.
It's all about cutting the budget.
So they are totally, they do have a philosophy and goals, and they know what they want, and they got it.
They got what they wanted.
We organize around Medicare for all.
We organize around a Green New Deal.
What?
Like those concessions that even if it's not all the whole farm all at once, but the building blocks to get us there.
The building blocks would have been the force to vote for Medicare for all.
That's a building block.
What did you, what did you do to build?
Nothing.
They had two years.
Nothing.
They did nothing.
How much closer are we to Medicare for all over the last two years because of how they didn't do anything?
They stopped talking about it.
They stopped talking about it.
So, so what she's saying is the Freedom Caucus didn't fight for policy concessions, which is a lie.
But she says that's why if the squad had followed the force to vote strategy, they also couldn't have fought for policy concessions.
Is that what she's saying?
She's saying that they didn't fight for policy concessions.
Well, does that mean that you couldn't have?
Why does the Freedom Caucus not negotiating for policies have anything to do with the squad not negotiating for anything?
Okay, one more.
I lied.
These folks, they're negotiating around committee assignments for themselves.
Like you.
Certain rules changes.
Not all of them are bad, mind you, but not all of them are good either.
And they really organize around grievance.
So this is so pathetic.
She has to try to pretend like they didn't win.
They just won the Super Bowl.
And she's trying to say they didn't really win.
She's trying to say Michael Jordan.
They didn't win.
So it turns out, so she's saying that those people were only negotiating for committee assignments.
Do you know that they got those committee assignments?
Did you know that AOC pretended that that was something that they had negotiated for instead of doing force to vote, that they had negotiated for committee assignments?
Did you know that they immediately got kicked off their committees after they voted for Nancy Pelosi?
Yes.
So turns out that negotiating for committee assignments is bad, according to her.
What you really want to do is get kicked off your important committee like she and Katie Porter and other progressives did.
Who knew that was the right play?
You want to get kicked off important committees because that's what happened to her and Katie Porter.
One more, I lied.
I think sometimes people conflate the necessary work of outside organizing with the internal work of legislating.
And the fact of the matter is, you cannot do one without the other.
I mean, whenever there's an outside organization that pushes them to do something, she turns on them and smears them like she did to the healthcare activists around forced to vote.
She said, we're committing violence.
I do think there's a decent amount of organizing you can do outside of legislative goals.
There's plenty.
There's plenty.
You can organize a tenants union.
You can organize, unionize your workplace.
You can do all sorts of stuff.
So the idea that you can push and emphasize legislative goals without an outside, that part I think is untenable.
She's just talking now.
She's just flapping her lips because she doesn't mean any of it.
But Kyle Kalinsky will tell you she does.
At least as a progressive, actually, just in general, because the right wing of the Democratic Party also organizes on the outside for their internal goals, but they do it with money.
And as progressives, we have to do it with people.
And so, you know, when you have a base that focuses most of its ire towards the people on their side, because YouTube algorithms reward that.
So she's talking about me.
So she's trying to make us hold doing exactly what she said again, cause a ruckus, hold their feet to the fire, push them, make them do it.
But when you do that, she says, oh, you're just doing that for clicks.
That's what she's saying.
You hear it, right?
Towards the people on their side because YouTube algorithms reward that.
You're just playing into the hands of the capitalists who run those algorithms.
And so when Jimmy Doerr criticizes me, he's just helping capitalists and doing it for clicks.
He's helping capitalists.
If you criticize me, you're helping capitalists.
How convenient for you?
Any criticism of you is helping our enemies.
How convenient.
She drives to Tesla and she's talking about capitalists.
This is funny.
She went to, she goes to the, what's the ball?
What is that ball called?
Met Gala.
She goes to the Met Gala with a slave carrying her dress.
Wearing a mask.
But if anybody criticizes her on YouTube, we're just doing it for clicks and we're helping the capitalists.
You know, this is a team sport.
And I think a lot of times people think elections are just about set it and forget it.
I'm just going to pull my lever for someone and let them do the work.
And if you're that kind of person, you know, I'm not, I'm not sitting here to knock that.
But if you are a left or if you are a progressive organizer, what we need the most support in is support during game time, during legislating.
And I can't tell you how common it is for us to look to guidance, look to the grassroots for guidance.
And sometimes you don't hear anything until after something bad happens.
And except when we do get that guidance, like you did loudly for Force to Vote, you ignore it, turn on those activists, smear them, say they're committing violence against you, and send cops to their house.
This isn't, she's such a bad.
Do you not see through it?
Is there anyone left who doesn't see through this?
Is there?
I guess there is.
So she's doing the Barack Obama's trick of blaming the base strategy of telling activists and voters that it's their fault.
That's what she's doing.
You didn't vote hard enough.
You didn't organize enough.
We're sitting inside Congress.
We don't know what to do.
We're looking for you guys.
That's what she's saying.
We don't know what to do.
We look for you for guidance.
You know, this is a team sport.
So I just want to remind people of like, like how much people were on board for Force to Vote until they didn't do it.
Remember when Nina Turner said this?
That's the moment that we're in right now.
And yes, the progressives should leverage.
Absolutely, they should.
And the Congressional Black Caucus and the Progressive Caucus all together.
I mean, can you imagine?
I can imagine this.
Like, I've been playing this over in my head that I would love to see all of those caucuses come together to say we are going to do what is right, not what is.
But this should be easy, too.
But I'll just say, let's do what's right and not necessarily politically convenient.
But it should, in this case, though, Jordan, I can't even.
This is right.
And it is politically correct to say that you're going to save the American people.
I don't understand what the problem.
What is the problem?
I don't understand.
This just does not compute for me.
So I just have this wild vision in my head that the progressive and the congressional black caucus will come together and say, you know what?
In the words of Fannie Lou Hamer, enough is enough.
We're about to deliver this right here.
Don't know what else is going to happen, but this right here, we're going to deliver for the American people.
It has to happen.
And last question.
It didn't happen.
So they didn't do it.
So she was saying, I don't even know what to say.
And then after they didn't do it, she says this.
It's okay to be disappointed, but the squad is ultimately the best that we have in terms of being able to push an agenda.
And what that means is that you might not always agree with the methods.
I need people to understand that when you are on the inside, it doesn't mean that you are selling out.
I know they've been getting a lot of pressure, but they are the ones up there holding it down.
They're pushing as hard as they can.
And just because things are not going exactly the way, just because they're not using the exact cloud that some in the activist community want them to use, that doesn't mean that you throw them away.
Because guess what?
If you're throwing away members of the squad who are our best opportunity to get what we need, and also some members of that progressive caucus, then you're not going to have anybody there.
So if the prerequisite in summation, if the prerequisite for relationship means that I have to do or the squad has to do everything you say the way you say do it, then there's not much of a relationship at all.
And you're going to be disappointed.
Hell, they're going to be disappointed with me.
And they were so disappointed, they wouldn't vote for you.
So that's a big difference, huh?
That's a big difference from what she was saying before.
They didn't force the vote till after.
And they, I guess, like all lying politicians, lying Nina Turner didn't think people would see through her.
Everyone sees through her.
Does anyone watch her show?
She can't even crack a thousand views on any of her videos.
No one gives a shit what she has to say because they saw that she's a liar and a flip-flopper and she's going to lie to them at the behest of the powerful.
She didn't, she wasn't defending, she wasn't lying to defend activists.
She was lying to defend politicians.
And she betrayed herself.
And they all betrayed themselves.
And AOC is a betrayer of everything.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson talking.
We're here with Steve Kirsch, and he's going to talk about the vaccine with Michael Bett David, who does a great podcast.
I've been invited on it and I haven't been able to make it, but we hopefully soon, fingers crossed.
Here we go.
Anybody, if you want to get an abortion, get an abortion.
If I want to get the vaccine, I get to choose.
So you can't force, if I can't force you to get an abortion, you shouldn't be able to force me.
It's not about you.
It's about people you interact with.
And that's the social contract.
Aren't they vaccinated?
So aren't the people I'm interacting with vaccinated?
Why do if they're vaccinated, why do they have to fear me if I'm not?
Exactly.
Vaccines work.
Everybody, Jimmy, everybody knows that it's safe and effective.
And it keeps you from getting, it keeps you from dying.
So here is, let me play this without stopping and then we'll come back and make fun of them.
Here we go.
Anybody, everybody.
If you want to get an abortion, get an abortion.
If I want to get the vaccine, I get to choose.
So you can't force.
If I can't force you to get an abortion, you shouldn't be able to force it.
Because it's not about you.
It's about people you interact with.
And that's the social contract of public.
We don't even know if the vaccine worked or not at the time.
Yes.
That's what the trials are.
Dude, that's why these trials.
Are you missing data?
But let me ask you a question.
Are we saying only one type of scientists are right?
No, we're saying that the system in place, the 16,000 that signed that.
No, no, no.
The system in place to test vaccines.
There's an entire system that's in place with review boards and all of this.
How dare you question the system?
We've got a system.
You can't say anything bad against the system.
You're going to turn some of your brothers against the system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, Neil has no numbers to back it up with any data whatsoever.
There's no data on any of this stuff.
Neil, listen to how he ends it.
Here's how he ends it.
That's in place.
Now, you can say, you can, what you can say is, I have a better idea than all these review boards and all these agencies and the CDC.
I have a better idea.
Here's what you should do.
And that would have made everything better.
Okay.
You can early treatment.
Well, it's called, it's called the Great Barrington Declaration, fuck things.
Early treatment.
So there are a lot of people.
People did have those ideas.
Yeah.
They are absolutely idea.
But what I'm saying is, in a case where you can contaminate someone else, it's not about you.
It's about the collective health.
You're assuming.
You're assuming because somebody can take the vaccine won't get COVID, which, by the way, I don't need to play the clips for you to see it.
What everybody said, hey, if you get it, you're not going to get it.
If you take the vaccine, you're not going to get a Rachel Maddow, Joe Biden.
I can give you Fauci.
I can give you, and you've seen these clips before.
It's not like you've never seen it before.
They were wrong.
Hold on.
So, so the strain evolved.
So there he is spreading medical misinformation at the top of his lungs with lots of histrionics.
So that's supposed to be a scientist who's talking about the system like that.
That's not a scientific debate if you have to throw your arms around.
That's what I'm supposed to do.
I'm an emotional pothead comedian.
I'm not a scientist.
So when he does that, you know he's wrong.
And he's trying to bully and bluster.
And that's exactly what he was doing.
And he's wrong on every piece of the science he just said there.
He's wrong.
And why is it a pothead comedian knew he was wrong?
I knew this a year and a half ago.
He was wrong.
It's a year and a half later.
He still doesn't know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, plus, you know, so he's realized, oh, the virus is mutated.
Well, I think that means we need to go and redo the trials to recalculate the numbers to find out whether there's a benefit or not, because maybe I'm just killing myself to not save anyone.
Ooh, that's not a societal benefit.
And so, Neil, so Neil, so you go to Neil and you say, Hey, Neil, look, if I kill you right now, you're going to save 10 lives.
Can I shoot you?
Can I shoot you now, Neil?
Science works, right?
It's community benefit.
If I kill you right now, you're going to save 10 lives.
Can we do that?
Can I pull the trigger?
And what do you think Neil would say on that one?
I was going to bet he would say no.
Yeah, and then I'd say, but Neil, it's about the collective.
It's about societal benefit, Neil.
About the collective, Neil.
Collective.
Neil, Neil.
Neil should be saying, shoot me now.
Come on.
That's right.
I mean, it's about the collective.
It's not about you, Neil.
It's about saving other people.
So Auntie Grifter says, imagine watching a credentialed physicist flail his arms around when proposed a simple question.
This is what went wrong the past three years and appealed to authority instead of sound logic and reason.
Yeah, and data and facts.
That's right.
You know, risk-benefit calculations.
Exactly.
What Brett Weinstein says is people don't understand how a famous astrophysicist like Neil deGrasse Tyson could be so wrong about COVID vaccines at this late date.
As a COVID dissident, it doesn't surprise me at all.
I feel for the guy huge sums were clearly spent to keep people like Neil deGrasse Tyson in the dark.
Huge sums of money, he's saying.
Now, I don't know if he's saying that Neil took money to push the vaccine, which a lot of celebrities are doing, like Michael Phelps and people like that, are taking money to push the vaccine.
It sounds crazy to me.
He had all the, this is what this is a question that I have.
So he had access to exactly the same information as me.
All he had to do is make the slightest effort before pretending to have authority on the matter.
And he didn't.
That's what kills me.
Yeah.
That's why he won't debate me.
This is why he hangs up the phone when I call him.
This is why Neil will never debate me because he doesn't want to be outed.
That's the biggest fear.
So you emailed him for a debate.
He didn't answer back.
You texted him for a debate.
Oh, yeah.
I can show you.
I can show you the and then you left him a voicemail.
He didn't answer.
And then you called him on the phone.
He answers the phone.
Yeah, he picked up the phone.
I was surprised.
I would have thought he sent me to voicemail.
He picked it up and then he realized what he had just done and he hung up the phone.
Here's the here.
You can see the whole conversation.
Okay.
Oh, actually, let's see.
Oh, oh, look, he blocked me.
You can see that he blocked me.
Can you see this?
Nah, I can't really tell.
It changed from blue to green.
Blue to green.
Look, I don't know if you can read this, but I thought the blue.
I thought blue to green meant that if it's blue, you're on a cellular line.
If it's green, no, no, he's got an iPhone.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So I was, well, I messaged him and then he blocked me.
So now my messages came in as green because he blocked me.
Oh, and the thing, and I wrote him, it's a sentence.
I said, wow, you just hung up on me.
That's not the best way to resolve important scientific questions, is it?
Nice.
So here is what problem is Neil Tyson, Neil deGrasse Tyson, like many scientists, is indebted to his benefactors.
His science is not science.
It's political opinionated science.
It's the way for all his science, including his disastrous, wrong-headed climate analysis, which makes less sense than his vax diatribe.
Now, this is why the reason why I included this tweet is because I think what this COVID is doing to people and all the lies we've been told and people like Neil deGrasse Tyson, who everybody used to thought they could trust, and now we can't, it's making people question everything.
I bet it's making some people like this person question climate change.
I bet you that this amount of lying that has happened, I mean, after Russia gate and then after this, I bet you there's people, I bet you that it's making them question everything.
What do you think?
Yeah, we should be.
In fact, there's a guy, he's known as Elgato Malo.
Do you know who?
Do you know who I'm talking about?
Yes.
He writes the substack.
You know, he's a little kitten and he can't capitalize, right?
So we had a nice conversation today.
And one of the topics where I wanted to find out what he thought about global warming.
And he said that he's done a lot of work in that area.
And I won't reveal the specifics, but he basically thinks that we're in a cold period right now and we're coming out of it.
And that the climate has actually been a lot warmer in the past than it is now in terms of the parts per million and the CO2.
And of course, CO2 is a greenhouse gas and it does warm the earth.
But there's a question and he said, look, if you think global warming is a problem, you have to have three things.
Is it coming from, is it primarily man-made?
Is man influencing the climate and by how much?
And what are the implications of that?
And, you know, I forget what exactly the three questions were, but they were well thought out.
And he actually got a million-dollar contract to do this analysis on global warming and came up with the turns out that the guy from MIT that was the one guy who was the skeptic that I used to think was kind of not with it.
Do you know who I'm talking about?
A famous MIT guy, famous MIT professor.
He was, you know, he was the only guy at MIT who didn't believe in climate.
He says he's the guy who's actually right about it.
It turns out that climate science is not as easy as it looks.
And so I asked him about, yeah, so what do you think of Jim Hansen?
You know, because I always respected Jim Hanson.
He said, no, no, no, he's got it wrong.
And so it's a really interesting discussion.
And so the one thing that this did for me is when it opened my eyes to questioning the vaccines and safety and the COVID vaccines and so forth, it's basically opened the door for me to be able to question my beliefs in really anything else that I believed in, including global warming, which, you know, prior to this, if you had asked me about global warming, I would have said, you know, hey, it's really important that we keep the emissions down and believe the whole thing.
And I saw the Al Gore presentation and, you know, whatnot.
And I'm buying the whole thing, Hook Line, and Sinker.
But it's really, really important to hear the people on the other side and to give them a platform where you can hear the two sides debate.
And we've never seen that before, right?
Jimmy, have you seen a debate between sort of the pro and the con side on global warming with people who really know their stuff because it's really quite damaging?
This guy's this El Gato Malo guy.
Piel, there are a lot of people who follow him, including me.
He's a smart dude.
And so the fact that he is saying, hey, not so fast, you should check this out.
And, you know, I didn't take notes on our discussion, but I was definitely moved in the same way that I was moved off of the vaccines are safe and effective.
So I'd be careful on that one.
I think that we need to make sure that we don't make the same mistake for other things.
You know, it's like fluoridated drinking water, right?
We were all brought up to believe that fluoride in the drinking water is going to reduce cavities.
And it turns out it's a really, really bad thing.
And it's really, really hard for people to filter it out.
You know, you have to have a reverse osmosis filter pretty much.
Some of these other filters do not work as well and get contaminated pretty quickly.
But fluoride in the, you know, there is some evidence that if you rinse with fluoride, that you can reduce cavities, but it's really more dental hygiene, which is the big thing that caused cavities to be reduced.
And so, so fluoride, if you drink it, there is no benefit to lowering your cavity.
So why are you putting it in the water?
You should just use fluoride in a mouthwash.
But we put it in the water, and it seems like it's impossible to reverse.
So these things that we take for granted is, oh, these are good things.
We should be going and using this as a lesson to go back and really make sure that we're hearing from parties who are experts on both sides of the argument before we make important decisions like this.
And I wish politicians would do that anytime they make a decision is to really listen carefully.
And what happens now is totally the opposite, Jimmy.
When I try to go and I try to talk to Anna Eshu, they won't return my phone call.
All my emails are ignored.
The staff ignores me.
I can't even get a response from the scheduler.
I point out, hey, there's this corruption happening at the CDC.
People are dying.
And it's like, hey, we don't care.
We're not going to listen to you.
Click, hang up.
I mean, it is so bad.
It's really important that people listen to the people on the other side and try to resolve it.
Because if they're legitimate people, they have a point of view.
And let's make sure that you've listened to them and have worked through the issues.
And we should be settling these issues as adults and talking about our differences and trying to resolve them through dialogue.
Well, not censorship.
Here's what Carl Sagan had to say about this exact topic.
Science is more than a body of knowledge.
It's a way of thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe with a fine understanding of human fallibility.
If we are not able to ask skeptical questions, to interrogate those who tell us that something is true, to be skeptical of those in authority, then we're up for grabs for the next charlatan, political or religious who comes ambling along.
It's a thing that Jefferson lay great stress on.
It wasn't enough, he said, to enshrine some rights in a constitution or a bill of rights.
The people had to be educated and they had to practice their skepticism and their education.
Otherwise, we don't run the government.
The government runs us.
So great clip.
So that's what I, that's the kind of thing I'd like everybody, Neil DeGrace Tyson to listen to, my ex-friend Josh Olson to listen to, and the MIT professor you were talking about, who's questioning to Richard.
Yes, Richard Lindsay.
My crack staff got that for me, so I was very proud of that.
Yeah.
So you got it.
Yeah, same time.
Now, I just can't wait to see how my haters are going to clip this video to make it look like I was questioning climate change instead of saying that the lies we've been told by COVID is going to make people question it.
So anyway, Steve Kirsch, I really appreciate you coming on.
I appreciate you sticking your chin out and getting it kicked in.
But, you know, the world needs people like you.
Thanks for having that kind of courage.
And anything that you'd like to, where can people find you?
What are you working on?
Yeah, you know, they can find me on Substack and they can follow me on Twitter.
You know, I got killed twice on Twitter.
Like, how many people do you know who got two lifetime bans on Twitter?
Like, they gave me a lifetime ban and then they reincarnated me.
And then they banned me a second time, lifetime ban after doing that.
I mean, like, I'm the only guy I know who's got two lifetime bans.
So when they brought me back, you know, it took a while to bring me back because I was double killed.
Right.
So, you know, Malone got back pretty quickly.
And McCullough got back pretty quickly.
And it took a while because they had to dig me out from the doubly killed.
I mean, I was in a class by myself.
Have you asked Matt Taibi to look into why you got double killed?
No, I haven't.
Haven't had a chance yet.
I bet there's a paper trail for sure.
Yeah.
So I'm kind of hoping that my name shows up.
Like, I feel like I'm not making a difference if the CDC doesn't have me on a list somewhere.
Yes.
You know, and when I email the CDC, I used to get bounces from people.
Like I got, I know I have hundreds of emails at the CDC.
And I used to get bounces like out of the office, out of the office, out of the office.
And then I stopped getting bounces.
These guys blocked my email to the CDC.
And I heard that my web, my substack, stevekirs.substack.com, if you go to it, this is from a CDC employee.
They told me that if you go to my website, that it says that this website is unsafe.
Ah!
So I know I'm making a difference.
That's good.
You are making a difference.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm still trying to get on their list.
I want to be mentioned.
If I'm not mentioned in one of their emails, like you should kill this guy, you should, you know, Facebook.
I feel like I'm not doing enough.
You know, I haven't been doing my part.
*Bell rings*
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy, this is Kevin Spacey.
Ah, hello there, Mr. Spacey.
I'd like to speak to Aaron Mate, please.
What I'm sorry, he's not here right now.
I thought he was guest hosting for you on your internet program.
Yeah, he was while I was gone.
I'm back now.
That was last week.
Always a day late and a dollar short.
He's a rather fetching, charming young man.
Oh, well, I suppose you'll do.
Oh, good to hear.
Can I ask why you're calling?
Yes, but only if you do so politely and with respect.
Allow me to cut to the chase.
The Kevin Spacey rehabilitation overdrive is proceeding apace.
Don't get in the way or you get mowed down.
I see.
From what I understand, you're still facing sexual assault charges in the UK.
So what exactly do you mean?
Well, as you know, we are in the middle of awards season.
Actors and actorettes are receiving awards for their acting from esteemed institutions.
And I, I am happy to report, am among these lauded thespians.
You want you won an award?
Yes, I want an award.
Is that hard for you to face?
Well, you need to face it, Jimmy Dore.
Face my award.
Jesus.
Well, congratulations, Kevin Spacey.
Did you win a Critics Choice Award?
Not exactly, no.
Not exactly.
What does that mean?
A Writer's Guild Award?
No, it doesn't matter what award.
It matters that I won an award during awards season.
That means Jack's back, baby.
Spacey in your facey.
Okay.
Sorry, but I'm not going to be impressed unless I know what award you won.
Well, aren't you a tiresome little snob?
Maybe you should just hang up then.
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Fine.
I'll tell you.
I was awarded a prize recognizing my contribution to the filmmaking arts by the National Museum of Cinema.
I'm sorry, I'd never heard of the National Museum of Cinema.
Well, then you're dumb.
Is it here in LA?
No, not exactly.
New York?
Turin.
Where is Turin?
Italy.
I was given an Italian movie award, which is inherently fancier than any tawdry stateside tricking that could have been tossed by the Harvey Weinsteins of the world.
And I gave a speech, Jimmy.
I gave a speech that applauded the fact that they had, quote, the guts to recognize my genius in a world full of cowards and hypocrites.
Very gutsy indeed.
Thank you.
I mean, on their behalf.
Yes.
Anyway, my point stands.
Now that I'm receiving awards again, I think it is clear that my comeback is well on its way.
Cancel culture ain't got nothing on me.
I see.
So, now that you know the lay of the land, Jimmy Dore, now that you know that the rehabilitation of Spacey has finally and triumphantly arrived, do you have any work for me?
Me?
Yes, you.
Mr. Spacey, we don't.
We don't hire actors.
This isn't a play or a movie that we do here.
Well, maybe you should open your mind, expand your horizons, have one segment where you talk about whatever it is you talk about, and then another one where I do a soloquy from the Richard III.
That wouldn't make any sense at all.
Why are you asking me for work?
Because I need work.
I need to pay for all these legal bills for all my sexual assaults, dummy.
Don't you have a manager or an agent?
They both drop me because they're cowards.
Well, I'm sorry.
I don't know what to tell you.
Well, then I'm going to sue you.
Sue you?
Why would you sue me?
I don't know.
Sue you, sue everybody.
Look, I want an award.
That means I can act and harass Twinks if I want to.
Those are the new rules.
Get used to it.
I will use all the power in my disposal to force people to put me in things.
The universe is spoken.
Spacey is back.
Deal with it or be a dinosaur.
Wow, you really are an unhinged megalomaniac, aren't you?
Well, of course, I'm a stage actor by training.
Expect to be hearing from my lawyer soon.
Well, not soon, per se.
He's a little busy right now.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
Bye.
Bye.
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