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	We'll see you November 19th and 20th in Austin, Texas, November 26th.
	That's the Saturday after Thanksgiving in Burbank.
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	Not Jimmy Dore comedy.
	Beep.
	Hey, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Hey, man, this is Jeff Bridget.
	Hi, Jeff.
	Good to hear from you again.
	How you doing?
	You know, I can't complain.
	Doing pretty good.
	How about you, man?
	I've got.
	I guess I'm doing okay.
	Oh, that's fucking great, man.
	Yeah.
	Glad to hear it.
	You know, if I'm being honest, I'm in a pretty great mood today.
	Why is that?
	Well, you know, the big news, of course.
	What news?
	There's a lot of news.
	That's what we cover on the show, the things going on that really matter.
	Well, then I'm going to guess, you know, your top story today on the old Jimmy D show is the launch of Artemis One.
	The what?
	What do you mean, what?
	NASA, man, they launched a rocket that's going to go to the moon and, you know, do moon shit.
	Okay, I see.
	Well, aren't you excited?
	Not really, Jeff.
	I think we have bigger problems here on Earth.
	Oh, come on, man.
	Then didn't you want to be an astronaut when you were little?
	Not really.
	Wow.
	You're blowing my mind, man.
	Wow.
	You know, I guess it's a generational thing.
	You know, for me growing up in the 50s and 60s, you know, the space program was just about the coolest thing in the world.
	We looked at the stars, man, and I still remember watching Neil Armstrong walk on the surface of the moon.
	Blew my fucking mind, man.
	And then, you know, the other guys, too.
	Jeff, I guess if we had no problems here on Earth, I'd be fine with exploring space.
	But our country, our planet, it's riddled with poverty, homelessness, injustice, war, not to mention a looming environmental crisis.
	Why would we be wasting money, effort, and technology on something that doesn't at the end of the day benefit anyone?
	Well, you're just a giant fucking bummer, aren't you?
	And, you know, okay, that's interesting.
	That's interesting, man.
	Your point stands.
	It's well taken.
	But, you know, I'd argue that it does benefit humanity in some way.
	How is that?
	It shows the people that things are possible, man.
	That you can dream big and make big things happen.
	It's fucking inspiring, man.
	Rockets in space.
	Going to the fucking moon?
	Space.
	You know, you sound like you're high right now.
	Well, yeah.
	Are these vague, dreamy reasons do they really justify all the money that is spent on the space program?
	Also, maybe it would be better if all these NASA scientists tried to figure out ways to combat or mitigate global warming.
	You think about that?
	Well, you know, going into space might just do that.
	How?
	Well, you know, you know, sometimes when you have a big problem, what you do, you step away and take a look at the big picture.
	So maybe one of these scientists goes up to space and looks at Earth from the outside and they get an idea how to fix the climate.
	You know, like a Eureka moment, man.
	You know, as far as cost goes, I mean, you know, how much could it be?
	I just looked it up at its $4.1 billion.
	Well, okay, that's a lot of money, sure.
	But like I said, it may help climate change.
	In 2023, the 2023 budget has around $45 billion earmarked to fight climate change in some way.
	Well, there you go, man.
	That's more.
	That's like more money.
	So climate change is only 10 times more important than one little moon launch.
	I would say it's about a thousand times more important.
	Well, yeah, but you can't look at it like that.
	No, our budget should reflect our priorities.
	So far this year, we spent more than $16 billion to the Ukraine alone.
	Way more than that.
	Which is a drop in the bucket compared to the foreign aid that goes to allies to allow them to operate their war machines.
	Do you think funding wars across the world is as important as fighting climate change?
	Well, fuck no, man.
	Okay, that's fucking bullshit.
	I agree.
	We spend that much money just to send tanks and guns to people who use them to kill.
	That's not the spirit of the 60s at all, man.
	Well, it kind of is.
	Not like how I want to pretend it is.
	That's money that could go to fight climate change and put more men on the moon.
	Is that where my tax dollars are fucking going?
	Yes.
	What the fuck?
	What the fuck?
	Surprised you didn't know that, Jeff.
	Of course I didn't know that.
	That's why I was chill and copacetic before.
	Now I'm fucking mad, man.
	I'm really pissed off over here.
	Feeling any deja vu?
	Oh, yeah, man.
	Last time I called you, I went from being all chill and happy to mad as fuck.
	The exact same thing happened.
	You're the only guy who can make me this angry.
	I kind of dig it, man.
	I'm here to help.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And it feels good to get mad every now and again.
	Leave that, you know, happy bubble.
	Some of us need sort of an anti-therapist.
	And you, Jimmy, you're mine.
	This is a revelation, man.
	I got a lot to be angry about.
	Fucking Ukraine, man.
	Well, this will keep me going for a few weeks at least.
	But I'll call you back when I need a little rage party.
	All right, Jeff.
	Look forward to hearing from you, pal.
	Far out, man.
	Yeah.
	We can't afford fomenting this watch and see as the jack off the median speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.
	It's the Jimmy Torr Show.
	We have our first guest.
	We have a special guest is Sabby Sabs, friend of the show.
	She's a Boston-based activist, social critic, educator, and host of the Sabby Sabs podcast, which is part of the Revolutionary Blackout Network.
	Sabrina, welcome back to the show.
	Hi, Jimmy.
	Hi, Steph.
	Hello.
	Good to see you.
	So the reason I want to have you on is because we covered this, but there's more to this story than meets the eye.
	So, you know, Joe Biden, he was going to cut everybody's student debt by $10,000, right?
	And it turns out he did it in a way.
	Well, here's what this guy says.
	So this guy's name is Jed Sugarman.
	So he says, the Biden administration had a better legal argument if it had relied on the Higher Ed Act of 1965, but instead it made a weak COVID argument straightening a 9-11 Heroes Act and could lose nine to nothing.
	So, Sabi, you were on this.
	You knew about it.
	I didn't know this.
	So, but you did know this, that the way Joe Biden was going about relieving the debt, student loan debt, was in a way that made it most likely to be overturned by a court.
	Is that correct?
	Correct.
	And I think what some people may not be aware of is actually February of last year, Ayanna Pressley, Elizabeth Warren, and Chuck Schumer actually presented this proposal to Joe Biden.
	And what they asked him to do was to cancel up to 50K.
	Now, obviously, I thought it should have been all of it, but they asked him to do this through the Higher Education Act of 1965.
	So, for people who are coming to me now saying that, oh, you can't believe that Joe Biden would have done this on purpose.
	Yeah, I do.
	Because he knew that he was supposed to do it this way.
	And so, the method that he chose doing it through the HEROES Act, that is actually why we're in the situation that we're in right now.
	So, if people actually would have been paying attention to what was happening last year and the proposal that was made, the original proposal, Joe Biden knew that he was supposed to do it through the Higher Education Act that he chose not to.
	So, the good news is, the good news is that there's still time to fix it.
	The bad news is they're not going to.
	That was the bad news.
	So, when they wrote that, there was still time to fix it.
	But the bad news is they're not going to fix it.
	And then, here it is.
	They're using, so why would, so, let me ask this question.
	Why would they use a worse legal argument?
	Why would Joe Biden pick the worst and the most shaky grounds to stand on legally to relieve students?
	I'm no cynic, but if it was my guess, it's that they did it on purpose so they could be scrapped right after the midterms.
	You know, when the next generation of young Trump voters already have voted for Democrats already, then it would get scrapped, which is exactly what happened.
	But that's just what a cynical nihilist would say, right?
	I mean, I choose to believe that the President of the United States accidentally got the worst legal advice possible for a thing he sincerely wanted to happen.
	That's what we're supposed to believe, right, Seb?
	Right.
	People have to remember Joe Biden was actually the one, he's the reason why we can't file for bankruptcy through, for student loan debt.
	That's because of Joe Biden.
	So, it was funny to me.
	Can you explain that?
	Can you explain that to me?
	Joe Biden makes it, so you can't get your student loan debt discharged in a bankruptcy proceeding because of Joe Biden?
	Right.
	That was him.
	He was the one that implemented that.
	So, the fact that people are surprised, like, I can't believe Joe Biden would do something like this.
	Like, he never wanted student loan debt to be charged off in the first place.
	And if you notice, I mentioned that the people that came to him, Ayanna Pressley, Elizabeth Warren, and Chuck Schumer, they asked him to do it up to 50K.
	He limited to 10K, which was for most people, and then for 20K for those who had Pell Grants.
	So, he didn't even go as far as they were asking him to go in the first place.
	So, of course, this was just a ploy to get people to come out into the midterms.
	And in the same week of the midterm elections, instantly, it's struck down by a federal judge.
	He knew that this could happen.
	He was warned about this.
	And that's why we're in this situation.
	So, a lot of people are really angry.
	But those of us who are following this along the way, for me, I'm not as frustrated because I knew that this was going to be struck down.
	So, he should have used this.
	It's called the Higher Education Act of 1965.
	And if he would have did it through that, it would have had a much better chance of standing up to legal scrutiny when the right-wingers tried to overturn it.
	So, this is from that article by that guy Sugarman in The Atlantic.
	he said, maybe the administration has already researched the text and context of the Higher Education Act and found a problem with the plan, with plan A that other experts have missed.
	That's not what happened.
	But, this plan, this plan B, COVID argument, is likely doomed.
	So, the way the president did it, this guy's saying, the way he did it is likely doomed, and it was.
	So, plan C would be a much smaller and more complicated program focused on COVID causation claims.
	So, he's saying they did it on purpose.
	That's what this guy, so, so, so, he's saying maybe the, so, this is funny, when he says maybe the administration has already researched the text and context of the Higher Education Act and found a problem with the plan.
	Yeah, maybe they researched it and picked the worst plan on purpose because they don't care about you or your problems and they never have.
	Just maybe though.
	It's probably more likely that it was an honest to gosh mistake from a good man.
	So, Breonna Joy Gray got involved because she was on this too.
	I, I guess I missed this all.
	I didn't know about this.
	She says, they used the promise of student debt cancellation to induce young voter turnout knowing it wasn't going anywhere because they relied on faulty legal authority.
	Hard to convince me that Biden, the Biden administration didn't do this intentionally.
	I, I, so it's, it saddens me to see Breonna slowly realize how much of a joke the system really is.
	I pray to God every day that make, make Robbie Swab have to see this horror.
	He can take it, but he can take it.
	He's got a game show hair and a fantastic teeth, but please leave Breonna alone.
	God damn it.
	Don't make her face reality.
	Not while working for the hill anyway.
	Not like this, but she is, she is facing it.
	Good for her.
	But then people tried to make her seem like a mental when she said that true thing.
	This guy says, this is insane.
	That thing that's obviously true and insightful.
	This guy tweets out and says, this is insane.
	It got don't, then, like, how many likes is that?
	17,000 likes that this I is insane.
	So so, and then another guy, this guy's actually a professor at a university.
	This guy says, he says, then, this is he's trying to make fun of Breonna Joy Grey.
	Great.
	He says, Biden clearly has the power to cancel all student debt.
	Why isn't he doing it?
	Now, Biden pretending to cancel student debt when he clearly doesn't have the power to do so is the ultimate act of political deception.
	So he's mixing two things there.
	So what he's mixing is he's showing Breonna Joy Gray saying the president should do this.
	But then the president went and did it in a way that makes it likely for it to be overturned.
	And then she said, then she said he's doing that.
	And so this guy says he's pretending Breonna Joy Gray is saying two contradictory things, and she isn't.
	And so that's common when they come at people who are critical of the Democratic Party.
	They come at them with bad faith attacks.
	And that's what this is.
	This is a bad faith argument.
	And when she said the president could do it, it's because he could, but then he did it in the way that he couldn't.
	So it's going to be overturned.
	And then she said that.
	He did it in that way that would get overturned because he didn't, because he's a tool of the banks, Joe Biden.
	That's why he's president.
	Why do you think Kamala Harris is our vice president?
	Because she was popular.
	She's our vice president because she was also chosen by Wall Street on Martha's Vineyard.
	She was the first candidate they wanted.
	And then when she couldn't get a vote, Wall Street shifted to go then with Joe Biden, their next most reliable dupe.
	That's why you can't get rid of your student debt in bankruptcy, nor your medical debt.
	I'm pretty sure it's because of Joe Biden.
	That's what a big tool of the banks Joe Biden is, right?
	So this actually makes sense.
	And then these people, so this guy's a professor who's conflating two arguments to make it look like she's saying something she wasn't, which is a lie.
	So this guy, if you have to lie to make your point, I pity your students because they must probably see right through you.
	Anyway, by the way, he calls this the ultimate act of political deception.
	To do so is the ultimate act of political deception.
	No, the ultimate act of political deception is pretending we live in a democracy.
	The penultimate act of political deception is that America is an overall force for good.
	This is like the 58th on the list of political deceptions.
	So I just want to, so, and then this, Rebecca says, to those who insist on just blaming Republicans, if you hired a lawyer to represent you and they failed to plan and prepare for the absolute most obvious, predictable moves of the opposition, and then you lost, you would blame your lawyer.
	The Republicans don't represent me.
	The Democrats are supposed to.
	That's really well said.
	Well, now you have the lesser evil not even representing you.
	Gee, it's it's almost like we don't even have two evils.
	It's like we just have one big evil.
	Isn't that weird?
	And then, of course, Jay got in and he said, I think Breonna Joy Gray is absolutely right.
	And they are doing the exact same thing with Roe versus Wade.
	The Democrats work with the Republicans to create a boogeyman to fundraise off it.
	They care about oligarchs, not us.
	So let me bring you back in, Sabby.
	Why do you think there's so much pushback to an obvious thing that seems so obvious to anybody who looks at it objectively?
	Why do you think that Breonna Joy Gray got such a big pushback from that?
	Because I think people, a lot of people in this country still want to blame things on left or right, and they still want to have hope for the Democratic Party.
	They don't want to believe that the Democrat or the Biden administration is doing them wrong on purpose.
	They don't want to believe that both of these parties are corporate and corrupt and they protect corporate interests before the American people.
	They don't want to hear that.
	They actually want to believe that when they go to the polls to vote for a Democrat or to vote for a Republican, that they're actually going to improve their lives, that they're doing something for the greater good of humanity.
	And to hear that they're playing you, I think it's a blow for a lot of people and they don't know how to take that.
	So what's weird is that a lot of people who were anti-Democratic Party and they were calling out the Democratic Party for being corrupt during the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2015-16, they've now flipped to and to flip to defending Joe Biden.
	People who said they would never vote for Joe Biden because he doesn't even do the bare minimum.
	And now he's been president for two years.
	And we see, in fact, he hasn't done the bare minimum.
	He hasn't even done the things he campaigned on.
	You don't have a public option.
	We don't have a $15 minimum wage.
	We don't have any student debt relief.
	We don't have a marijuana relief.
	Those last two things he said he did, but those are now being revealed to be fake, that they actually did them.
	There was nobody being incarcerated for possession of marijuana at the federal level.
	So him doing that didn't do anything.
	And then this student debt thing, he set it up so it would be overturned.
	And so isn't that weird to see people, the flex to defend Joe Biden.
	Again, if you look at his 40-year career, has been way more racist to black people than Donald Trump even, right?
	The reason why we have our prisons overcrowded with black and brown people is because of Joe Biden.
	The reason why student debt can't be relieved in bankruptcy court is because of Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden is the enemy here, right?
	Right.
	Joe Biden implemented legislation that actually harmed people.
	And that's the thing that some people didn't want to hear that.
	I think a lot of people or the people that are moving away from being, I guess, like critical of Democrat establishment or corporate Democrats is because they see the writing on the wall.
	There's no Bernie Sanders campaign this time around.
	Before it was two cycles in a row.
	So they realize, well, wait a minute, we don't have a Bernie Sanders campaign.
	The squad isn't really doing what they're supposed to do.
	They haven't taken a host or had a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party.
	So what do we got to do to keep this grift going?
	So what they have done is they are moving further to the right.
	They are now neocons and they are simping for Joe Biden.
	And they think that those of us that were around for Bernie 2016 or Bernie 2020, that we don't see this change.
	We see this change.
	We see this shift.
	But they will in turn point their fingers at us and say that we're the ones that are simping for the GOP, which I have never done.
	So they'll make up things about you because they know that you're on to them.
	And their whole thing now is that they are basically, they're protecting the corporate Democrats.
	That's right.
	How do you go from Bernie Sanders to calling out corporate corruption to protecting the corporate Democrats now?
	So everyone sees the shift.
	People see the grift and they don't like it when they're called out on it.
	So they'll try to smear us instead.
	So this is an interesting development that it saddened me to see you have to experience what I've been experiencing for the last, I don't know, four or five years because I've been true.
	We were all very critical of the Democratic Party and we all said we were done voting for incrementalism.
	We all said that.
	Everybody at the Young Turk said that.
	Everybody on YouTube said that.
	Kyle Kalinske said that.
	Everybody said that.
	Everybody in the satellites of the Young Turks said that.
	Everybody said they were done voting for corporatism, pro-war, anti-worker party, and incrementalism.
	And now that's what they're all doing.
	they're all defending corporate Democrats.
	And then they say incrementalism is victories.
	No, but Bernie Sanders is the one who taught us that incrementalism is a failure and that climate change and these and people are living under every bridge.
	And how about black people's wealth went down under Barack Obama?
	There isn't time, I thought.
	We don't have the luxury of time for incrementalism.
	So now everybody has changed.
	And so now when you came out and you're critical of the Democratic Party, like I've been since Bernie taught me how to be critical of the Democratic Party, now they all stop doing that and they all call us GOP right-wingers.
	And here's a very good example of that.
	So there was no bigger critic of the Democratic Party during Bernie Sanders' run than this guy, the humanist report, Mike Figuerito.
	And so now he tweets out, he laments over Joe Biden's student loan thing getting overturned, even though Joe Biden set it up to be overturned.
	And so you point that out.
	You and your pal Colin pointed out.
	He says, we told you this would happen.
	And then underneath, you said, we sure did.
	And so this guy ratioed him, which is kind of interesting, right?
	And then on his own thread, and then so did you, almost.
	And then he says, you dip shits.
	He comes in and calls you dipshits.
	He says, you dip shits.
	No, Biden isn't the one who struck down his own student debt relief plan, right?
	It was a Trump-appointed judge.
	First of all, I don't know why he has to call you dipshits, but because you're actually you're right.
	But if it was a Trump-appointed judge, I just want to let you know the Democrats fast-tracked Trump's judges so they could leave town.
	Democrats just confirmed lots of Trump's judges so they could skip town.
	That's from the Huffington Post.
	That's not from Fox News.
	So everybody forgets this, right?
	It's one team.
	They're on the same team.
	The donor class wants the same Trump judges as Chuck Schumer.
	They all want the same judges, okay?
	So then you came back.
	He says the information has been out there, student loan forgiveness since September, and you failed to do your research.
	So he's telling him, honestly, no, this information has been out there.
	I wasn't privy to it until this.
	And then, but instead, you punched down on black podcasters who knew the information because it doesn't fit your narrative of GOP bad.
	Because that's all former Bernie Sanders, because Bernie Sanders has he got rid of his movement.
	He disbanded his movement.
	And now Bernie simps full-time for the Democratic Party, a pro-war.
	He votes for war, and now he wags his finger and smears anti-war protesters.
	That's how bad it's gotten for Bernie.
	And so now when there's no Bernie to tell people what to do and to criticize Democrats, they all stopped.
	So now they're all simping for the Democratic Party.
	And this is why the left is in shambles.
	And then he replies, I heavily criticize Biden's implementation and means testing of this plan.
	You're not privy to insider knowledge.
	No one else has LOL.
	Nobody is privy to the accurate knowledge that says that what you're saying isn't correct.
	So, but you're using this as an opportunity to punch left and virtue signal rather than criticize the Trump-appointed judge who killed it.
	So he's upset that you're correctly pointing out that Joe Biden is actually at fault for this.
	And it goes, it obviously makes more sense that Joe Biden would do it exactly how you're saying because he has a pattern of behavior of doing this and he's the one responsible for student debt in the first place.
	So then underneath, you say, you call black people dipshits.
	Colin and I are educators and commentators.
	We see you.
	Your mask fell off.
	So he didn't know what to do then.
	So this is part, this is the part where it's funny.
	It gets really funny.
	So then he just, all of a sudden, he doesn't have an argument because you're right on the argument.
	Of course you are.
	Breonna Joy Gray's right.
	Sugarman's right.
	The article in The Atlantic is right.
	Of course this is correct.
	So he doesn't have an argument.
	He just has Orange Man bad and how dare you criticize Democrats.
	And so he said, he just pulls me out of his ass.
	He says, I also think it's hilarious that you're saying my mask fell off when you went out of your way to defend Tucker Carlson's good friend, Jimmy Dore.
	So I guess that makes me his good friend because I appear on his show and I preach against the corporate control of both parties and for Julian Assange and against war.
	That's what I do when I go on Tucker Carlson's show.
	I don't know.
	So they never say what I say when I go on Cuckoo Carlson's shows because what I say is solid lefty stuff.
	In fact, Tucker Carlson admitted on air that I was the one who changed his mind about Julian Assange.
	So he tweets this out.
	He says, also, I think it's hilarious that you're saying my mask fell off when you went out of your way to defend Tucker Carlson's good friend, Jimmy Doer.
	So again, he just brings me in out of nowhere.
	I had nothing to do with this conversation.
	I didn't even know this about the student loan thing until this, I got brought into this and I trended because of it.
	This is how I found out about this.
	I didn't even know this about the student debt stuff until this trended.
	And then I'm like, oh my God, I didn't know about this.
	And so what this guy says is perfect.
	Jason says, what's funny is that weaponizing Tucker Carlson and Jimmy Doerr to make a black leftist look like a white supremacist is pulling your mask off more than anything else.
	You're just an establishment propagandist, no different from any other bread tube imperialist.
	And that was perfectly said.
	He didn't stop because he then said that I joined in because after he figured out that you are my buddy, he called you out for it.
	No, the reason why I joined in is because you fucking inserted me into this conversation that I had nothing to do.
	Now he's saying he kind of he did a Sherlock Holmes and sleuth that you guys were friends with me.
	And so that's why he's going to bring Jimmy Doer.
	What?
	You're going to bring Jimmy Dorn because you're a lazy thinker and a coward and you didn't have an argument and you don't have the integrity to admit you got this wrong.
	And so you continue smearing black podcasters and educators and people who do actual relief in their community.
	So he says, Jimmy joined in because after I figured out they're his buds, I called them out for it.
	No, you just pulled me out of your ass and inserted me into this conversation because you know a lot of people out there hate me, Democrats.
	And it's going to get you a lot of likes if you just put my name in a negative tweet.
	It's a game we're all hip to now.
	He said, I basically stopped engaging after realizing these were bad faith door adjacent propagandists for the GOP.
	So now you and Colin, I guess everybody at the Revolutionary Blackout Network, former Fred Hampton leftist, now you are all propagandists for the GOP because you know me.
	Do you see how this works?
	You see how, so they don't have an argument.
	They just Jimmy Doer bad, Orange Man bad.
	Their brain has stopped working.
	They've gone back to pre-Bernie Sanders times and they've forgotten everything he taught us about the Democratic Party because he stopped talking about it because he doesn't want to be Ralph Nader.
	And now you get smeared, a black podcaster who does real community relief work, who's on it about calling out the corporatism of the Democratic Party.
	Now, for doing that, you get to be called a right-winger.
	So, welcome to my world.
	How does that feel?
	It's really interesting, but you know, this is what they do when they don't have an argument, Jimmy.
	They'll do one or two things.
	They will start to call you names, which he did first.
	And obviously, that didn't turn in his favor.
	He started to get ratioed in his own thread.
	And then, if that doesn't work, then they'll insert Jimmy Doer's name, see if that works for people.
	And he was still ratioed about this.
	I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
	It's hilarious to me, though, that he wants to say, Oh, you know, Tucker Carlson's friend, Jimmy Doerr.
	This is the same guy who tried to bring a Nazi onto his own platform.
	And he wants to point fingers at me.
	And then for him to come back and say, I decided not to bring Andrew here on my show.
	After I realized it's not really my place to tell the black community when they should accept someone who's a white supremacist.
	No shit, Sherlock.
	But he wants to point fingers at black podcasters as if we don't know what white supremacy is.
	He's a joke.
	We see the grift, and he really came after the wrong one.
	Like, honestly, a number of people have reached out and they said, Oh my God, I can't believe I watched this guy.
	I feel sorry for you guys, but this is not okay.
	Which means it was a really bad take.
	He tried to smear you as right-wingers.
	It tried to smear you as a GOP.
	Now, I know people have been doing that to me for at least four or five years because I tell the truth about the Democratic Party.
	Why?
	Because the Democrat, because I was a Democrat until 2016, because I used to vote for Democrats.
	I used to help them get elected.
	And so now they're supposed to represent me.
	The GOP didn't lie to me.
	The Democratic Party lied to me.
	And that's the impediment.
	The problem with having people like AOC and Bernie and the Democratic Party in government is it gives the false impression to people that there's somebody in government fighting for you.
	And that if we just have a few more of them, things will get better.
	And of course, we've done this experiment now a million times and it doesn't work, right?
	That's right.
	And when I said before, like we need to criticize politicians, that meant the progressive politicians, too.
	Because the reality is, I can also criticize Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema all day long.
	You know, I can criticize Mitch McConnell all day long.
	None of those people ran on Medicare for all.
	None of those people told us that they were going to fight for us and they were going to push back against the corporate Democrats.
	The squad did.
	Bernie Sanders did.
	So to watch them to just go along with corporate Democrats, to watch them withdraw that letter that they were going to send out about Ukraine calling for peace negotiations.
	They are not going anywhere.
	They have folded.
	If you look at some of the recent, the new squad members that were just added, they're throwing Palestinians under the bus so that they can get a seat at the table with the same corporate party that's working against them.
	People really have to wake up and pay attention to what is going on here.
	None of those people are going to help you.
	They're going to do just enough to appear progressive, but at the end of the day, they're going to do what the party wants them to do.
	So when people, this is funny because a lot of people have said this to me.
	Hey, I criticize Bernie and the squad too, but I don't do it as much as you.
	So why do you get to decide how much someone else does it?
	If you have a problem with my criticism, address the criticism.
	Otherwise, why are you the gatekeeper to the volume of criticism someone's supposed to give a politician?
	Like this, right here, he says, I've heavily criticized Biden's implementation and means testing of this plan.
	Why didn't you get mad at the Trump people for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Why are you getting mad at Biden?
	So anybody could do that back to you.
	Anybody could say, why are you doing that?
	So whenever they think it's okay to criticize Biden and the Democrats, then it's appropriate.
	But when Enver someone else does it, they're GOP, just like he said about you.
	It's kind of amazing, isn't it, to see it happen in real time?
	Well, something that I noticed is like you have to follow the TYT code, right?
	So if it doesn't start with TYT, then you didn't follow the proper channels.
	If you go in a different narrative that hasn't been approved per se by that TYT network, and that includes Humanist Report as well, as well as Rational National, then you're a bad faith actor or you're being disingenuous.
	No, for a lot of us, this is a class issue.
	And I'm sorry, but I don't think Mike Figuerego understands that.
	I don't know if he knows what it's like to go through that type of thing.
	And so for a long time, we've just seen this happen.
	Those of us at RBN, they're the ones that were leading this progressive movement through a Bernie Sanders campaign.
	And we still have those values and those principles.
	But what we've seen is that they're the ones that have changed.
	They're the ones that are willing to sell out just so they can be on an algorithm that works really well for them.
	Because if you're appraising Joe Biden, the algorithm actually likes that.
	The algorithm doesn't really like what I do, which is calling out both of these parties and telling you that they're both corrupt.
	Their algorithm really does not like that.
	So I think we all know what's going on here.
	It's pretty obvious.
	Well, I just hope that that Amish boy who tacked you online, uh, uh, The Amish boy quickly assessed the situation using his blue vision goggles, if you know what I'm talking about.
	He used his hashtag blue vision goggles.
	It turns out this culprit here, Sabby, is a Trump appointed judge.
	Great work, Amish boy.
	We almost had to admit the Democrats were corrupt.
	All right.
	Well, I'm sorry you got smeared as a GOP.
	That's all they have.
	That's all they can do is call you a right-winger.
	As, you know, it's the young Turks as they take $24 million from right-wingers and corporations.
	They call someone else a grifter or they say someone else is doing it all for the money as they take 24.
	So it's the same thing as he's defending the most corrupt politician and the most, the guy who did the most damage to the black and brown community in our country as a politician has got to be Joe Biden.
	And so, and here he is defending him while calling you dipshits and right-wingers.
	That's, you can't, if you put that in a movie, people would say it's too outrageous, Jimmy.
	No one's going to believe this.
	But there it is.
	And it happened all in public.
	And by the way, when he tweets at me, he has me blocked.
	So he tweets at me from behind a block, which is we know is called a grim job because Ryan Grimm, he pioneered that, that cowardly move of blocking someone and then smearing them online.
	So they can't respond to you, which is what Mike Figueredo did because he's a big coward, right?
	And so guy's afraid of going out of his own house.
	If you know anything about Mike Figueredo, he doesn't leave his own house.
	So I had to respond to him with using my burner account.
	That's why.
	And he's like, oh, Jimmy's using his burner card.
	Yeah, because you blocked me, you fucking pussy.
	That's why.
	You Amish pussy.
	But anyway, everybody sees who he is now.
	He's just another TYT Democratic blue MAGA chump.
	And that's that.
	So it's weird to see all these former Bernie people.
	And it's because Bernie stopped being critical of the Democratic Party and became a full-time 24-7 simp for the pro-war, anti-worker, pro-Wall Street Party.
	He's not going to stop sucking the Democrats until the day he dies.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Well said.
	It's really funny to me because they call like, they'll call us grifters at RBN.
	There's five of us.
	If people just do the math, how much do they think we actually make?
	They make a way a me.
	They call us grifters.
	Yeah.
	And well, anything, anything else you want to add to that?
	That was quite an episode.
	I appreciate that you got the word out there about the student dead.
	I didn't know that thanks to you and Brianna Joy Gray and Mr. Sugarman.
	I didn't know.
	I didn't know that he was doing it in a way that made it easily overturned.
	So, but now it makes sense that he would do that.
	Of course, it does, just like he would pardon everybody for marijuana, but he's not actually pardoning anybody for it.
	So it was all for the election.
	It was all to get people.
	And you cannot be overly cynical about Joe Biden and the Democratic Party.
	You just can't be.
	If you think you're going to be that, my cynicism can't keep up with their reality.
	That's right.
	I mean, I will say, just stay tuned because payments are supposed to resume in January.
	So hopefully that pause will be extended, but we don't know.
	We don't know.
	Well, I appreciate you coming on and thanks for all the work you do over there.
	And by the way, my wife is not white.
	She's 100% Mexican and she's been that way since she was born.
	Yes, I know that.
	I know.
	I just sometimes people don't know, but I just want to get it out there.
	And so our dog is half Mexican.
	So he's a Chihuahua.
	So everybody, check out Sabby Sabb's show.
	It's fantastic.
	I love her theme song and she does a lot of great work.
	We don't always agree on everything, but we can talk to each other in good faith.
	And, you know, it's the reason why there's identity politics happening at the corporate level, it's because they don't want you to focus on the class war because there's a class war happening.
	It already happened.
	They already won.
	And I don't know.
	We're trying to get people to wake up, but they get too distracted by identity politics.
	And that's my theory at this show.
	I don't know how you feel about it, Sabby, but it's a class war, wouldn't you agree?
	I agree.
	I mean, there's a lot of people that are working class and people that are poor.
	And I wish there was unity amongst the working class and those that are poor because wealthy people, rich people, they have class solidarity.
	They always stick together.
	100%.
	They do.
	Well, Christian Smalls, who is the guy who started the union at Amazon, he had to go and organize with actual working class people and he had to do it on Staten Island.
	And guess what that means?
	That means organizing Trumpers and people that you normally don't, but you come around, you have a common enemy.
	And that's the last thing they want you to realize that weight working class people who are socialists, communists, Trumpers, and Boogaloo boys, they all have common interests.
	Yes, they have a common enemy, in fact.
	And the thing that scares the establishment the most is them to realize that and come together because that's when they really have power like they had at Amazon.
	And so when Christian Smalls had to organize, he had to organize with those people because it's a class war.
	That's why.
	All right.
	Anything?
	I'll give you the last word and then we got to jump.
	Just stay tuned till January to see if they extend the pause on the student loan payments.
	Until then, you just have to cross your fingers and hope.
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	Guess what?
	A lot of people, there was a bombing of Russia, and a lot of people jumped and said it was, I mean, of Poland.
	A lot of people jumped and said it was Russia.
	So Lex Friedman, he said, suspected Russian missile hits Poland, a NATO nation.
	Do not escalate this war.
	We want peace.
	You know what would help de-escalate the war?
	Quit saying that that happened.
	That didn't happen.
	So you have fucking 114,000 likes.
	People all think that that happened.
	That didn't happen.
	So if you want to de-escalate the war, you papa don't spread misinformation propaganda that comes right from Zelensky's lips about a fucking attack before you know what happened.
	How many deaths were there in it?
	There was two.
	Two.
	So you think that two.
	And that got this trending.
	World War III was trending because of this, because Ukraine bombed Poland.
	It wasn't Russia bombing Poland.
	It was Ukraine.
	And then Ukraine was saying, well, and then Zelensky, by the way, I like Lux Freeman.
	I like his show.
	No, not too hard of a diss, but we did.
	Come on.
	Come on, logic.
	And by the way, when I went right before the show, I went to his space.
	He hasn't corrected it or taken it down or anything.
	And he hasn't tweeted anything else.
	He's kind of left it there.
	He said suspected.
	I imagine he thinks that's good.
	He's a, I mean, he's a better person than that.
	That's from what I've seen of him.
	He reminds me of Johnny Five from Short Circuit.
	Johnny Five had a pure heart.
	Yeah, I think he has a pure heart, this guy.
	Put it that way.
	Zelensky calls Russian missiles hitting Poland really significant escalation, of course.
	of bullshit from Ukraine, like nonsense things and ghost of key nonsense.
	Biden called the, so, so, so that, so just so you know, it was Ukraine launching anti-missile missiles and what, and their missiles went and hit in Poland and immediately Ukraine blamed it on Russia to try to get more American money into Ukraine to fight this.
	Right.
	And, and this was yesterday and Zelensky came out again today.
	And he said, I am sure it was not Ukrainian bomb that hit Poland.
	Oh, really?
	He's coming out and saying it again.
	I'd swear on Sean Penn's Oscar.
	So here, so Biden called a lid.
	What?
	And missed the G20 dinner.
	So they're all at the G20 thing right now.
	And so Biden called a lid.
	Now I had to look up what that was.
	I didn't know what that was.
	So when the president calls a lid, that means there's no more news coming out of the White House today.
	So stop asking questions.
	Now, everything we said today has been said.
	No more news.
	Right.
	That's what that, I think that's what that's called when they say, call the lid.
	And so, and then he didn't go to the G20 dinner.
	Why?
	Because he's having a little sundowner episode is what I think.
	And then, then he, then, then, and then after he, after he doesn't go to the dinner and he called the lid on the day, he then calls a press pool.
	And you want to see what happens at the, so then because of this bombing, he then calls a press pool.
	And this is what he says.
	This, this first, this is, this is almost comical.
	It is comical.
	Let's watch.
	Mr. President, can you tell us what you know so far?
	So they, they bring all the press in.
	They're all sitting around.
	This is at the, there's Trudeau, by the way, right?
	They're all sitting here.
	They're all sitting around.
	And then, so the, the presses and they go, okay, you can ask questions now.
	So they start asking questions.
	Watch this.
	Mr. President, can you tell us what you know so far about the explosion in Poland, sir?
	No.
	Thanks, press.
	Thanks, press.
	Thank you, press.
	Thanks, guys.
	And that, that was it thanks press go thank that They bring all those reporters in.
	The reporters go, hey, could you tell us what happened in Poland?
	And he just goes, no.
	All right, buddy.
	See ya.
	Goodbye.
	They called the press pool for that.
	Do you want to see it again?
	I'll show it to you.
	Mr. President, can you tell us what you know so far about the explosion in Poland, sir?
	No.
	Thanks, President.
	He says it great, too.
	Can you tell us what you know about the explosion in Poland?
	No.
	All right.
	See ya.
	Bye, everybody.
	Couldn't they do Justin Trudeau's like, I thought it was dumb when I took put on and took off a mask on camera at that same thing.
	This is amazing.
	The way he says it's great.
	The way he says it himself.
	No.
	Have you found any evidence about this explosion in Poland?
	No, we're still looking for Jackie.
	Wait, wait, and by the way, you see these things?
	These aren't these are syringes.
	Those aren't parasols, just so you know.
	Look at that uppercrest meth den.
	That's what that is.
	Room full of junkies high off their seventh booster.
	That's what that room is.
	He looks very young.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	He looks very young next to the Trudeau boy and the Sunak boy.
	Here's a story about it.
	The United States and its NATO allies are investigating a blast that killed two people in Poland.
	The explosion happened on Tuesday in the Polish village of Preservatov, about three and a half miles from the border with Ukraine.
	Photos obtained by Reuters showed a damaged farm vehicle lying on its side next to a large crater.
	Ukrainian and Polish authorities said the blasts were caused by Russian-made missiles.
	Moscow has denied responsibility, but the incident raises fears the Ukraine war could spill over its borders.
	So that's from Reuters.
	And then here is the Erdogan, the head of Turkey.
	He said Russia had nothing to do with it.
	Clearly, no one's buying what Zelensky is selling to fuel the war.
	Not even NATO member Turkey.
	Base.
	There was a little bit of truth in that telegraph video, though, because the S-300 is a Soviet missile.
	Oh.
	Well, here is: if you look at this from a motive standpoint, what is more plausible that Russia struck Poland, which MOD have now denied, just because they love fighting multiple fronts at once, or Ukraine has tried to do some kind of false flag to bring NATO into this conflict directly.
	I would say that I would probably say that one.
	I would say, isn't it?
	They try to shoot down a missile or something.
	They didn't do it on purpose, Ukraine.
	And they're going, let's just say Russia did it.
	Yeah, that's what I said.
	That's what happened.
	So here is from Ukaine's weapons tracker.
	So what crashed in the village, whatever, Poland, today?
	With the cooperation of Blue Boy 1969, we analyzed the available photos of fragments and came to a clear conclusion that they belong to the 48D6 motor of the S, of the 5F5V55 series missile.
	It's good.
	It's a Ukrainian missile.
	I'm done saying all that shit.
	So they say it's a Ukrainian.
	Yep.
	What do you think of that?
	I thought we were giving them nicer missiles.
	Why are they using the old, their old crappy missiles?
	Right?
	Who's got the good missiles that we keep saying?
	Where are the good missiles?
	So, were you surprised at how quickly, Jackson, that everybody got to the right story?
	Because even President Biden said that he now believes it was a Ukraine missile.
	It was weird that they let it go as long as it did.
	I think they were panicked and freaking out as to how to respond to the whole thing.
	Because, I mean, if you looked at the story, even by like 3 p.m.
	LA time, all of the main, if you just looked up Poland airstrike, all of it said Russian missile hits Poland City, whatever the city's name is.
	But the reason why I'm not surprised is because if they said that this was Russia, presumably it would have been on, they would have said it was on purpose if they went to that extent, you know, and that would have been an Article 5, you know, violation.
	It would have triggered Article 5.
	So is that that?
	I'm just left wondering who's going to win the war between Poland and Ukraine now that they're beefing.
	So Article 5 is that that's the article that says if you attack one NATO state, everybody joins in.
	Is that what you're talking about?
	Yeah.
	And it did trigger Article 4, which says that they have to confer based upon the perceived security threat to a member state.
	But then today, or last night they came out, I think they kind of said we're not going to do the meeting anymore because they came out and said that it was actually Ukraine.
	You think it's because it might be hard to make people think that Russia deliberately did an airstrike on some random Polish farm equipment, killing only two people with a whole missile.
	That just seems a little hard to swallow.
	Those Polish farmers were coming for Putin's neck.
	Bell rings
	Hey, this is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Jimmy, this President Joe Boy.
	Oh, Mr. President, how's it going, buddy?
	Jimmy, I'm a little cheesed off at the moment, to be perfectly honest.
	Cheesed off?
	Really?
	What is it?
	Why is that?
	Man, this president duda of Poland really fucked this up for everyone.
	What?
	Yeah, man.
	Just really screwed up.
	Screwed the pooch.
	Just like that song from the band of police.
	Do da do it.
	No, what are you talking about?
	That missile crashed in Poland.
	I thought, here we go, Jack.
	This is it.
	This is a smoking gun that we need to really get this thing popping off.
	The proverbial smoking gun even killed two people.
	Perfect.
	Okay, I got you.
	But then President Duda comes out, shows restraint, says it appears that this missile isn't even Russian.
	It's most likely Ukrainian.
	And it certainly was an accident.
	What the fuck?
	Blew it for everybody.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	So then, of course, NATO says Tree.
	So then I'm forced to concede that the missile probably wasn't Russian, like a goddamn chump.
	Well, look at a bright side.
	At least President Zelensky's asserting it was a Russian missile.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, well, no doubt.
	That little fucker never fails to carry the torch for his own ass.
	He'll probably use something to happen in Poland as a reason to call me and squeeze another billion out of me for Ukraine.
	At this point, I got his number saved.
	Just don't answer.
	Hey, sorry, your excuse for World War III appears to be fizzling.
	Thanks, man.
	I appreciate that.
	You really could have used this to go whole hog over there.
	Really good on the snake, you know.
	But Poland knows they'd be based, you know, they'd be basically a giant battlefield.
	And they don't want that, I guess.
	Gee, imagine that.
	Right?
	I mean, it's your own damn fault that they're not prepared for a full-scale war.
	What do you mean?
	Well, okay.
	So, of course, there are NATO forces, but the individual member states have their own armies as well, which Poland would have to mobilize in the case of a Russian invasion.
	And let me tell you, their military is not ready.
	Is that so?
	Yes.
	Our military has done some joint operations training with the Polish army, and we discovered that their hardware is woefully inadequate.
	They have their own version of the Apache attack helicopter helicopter, and we discovered that it has a massive design flaw.
	Oh, really?
	What's that?
	They put an ejector seat in a cockpit.
	That's a bad idea in a helicopter, I would imagine.
	Yeah, you better believe it.
	But it gets worse.
	Oh, no, what?
	Jimmy, any major NATO-Russian conflict would involve significant naval operations in the Baltic Sea, where several major Polish seaports are located.
	And the Polish naval fleet has been shown to be drastically subpar, especially their submarine capability.
	Oh, and why is that?
	Jimmy, you're not going to believe this.
	With their submarines, their screen doors are on them.
	That's crazy.
	That would make the submarines just sink to the bottom.
	Well, look at Archimedes over here.
	No, yeah, all that needs to be retrofitted.
	All that shit.
	So I guess they don't want to be drawn into a war with a major superpower with a military with so many engineering problems.
	Well, what are you going to do now?
	Well, we're still trying to milk this puppy for all it's worth.
	Our talking point is clear.
	This is still Russia's fault.
	They are ultimately responsible.
	So Russia is responsible for Ukrainian missiles striking Poland because of a military conflict that Ukraine provoked.
	I couldn't have said it better myself.
	So with that logic, we can still blame them.
	And we can still put that pips week Zelensky for us as the bravest man in the world.
	American celebrities will eat that shit up and influence the public with their little solidarity flags and whatnot.
	That will continue to continue to give us the moral leverage to do more saber rattling.
	Wow, sounds great.
	I really feel safe.
	I only wish this incident had happened right before the election.
	We might have taken the house.
	Really?
	A destabilizing international incident would be good for Democrats?
	Oh, absolutely.
	We're the war party now.
	I know.
	Used to be Republicans, but they became isolationists under that dingbat Trump.
	Honestly, it's the craziest political switcher I've witnessed in my political career.
	We have to adapt, Jimmy.
	Liberals want war now.
	Yeah.
	Even World War III with Russia.
	Can you imagine?
	Oh, well.
	What a world.
	Yeah, what a world indeed.
	I guess the military industrial complex needs at least one major party to be pro-war, and the Democrats are always for sale.
	Open for business, I like to say.
	Yeah.
	But it's not always an easy sell.
	Making regular Americans think, you know, whether or not some small Eastern European province is primarily populated by ethnic Russians should be part of Russia or Ukraine.
	Somehow that's the most important fucking thing in their life.
	That requires a propaganda machine that knows what the fuck it's doing.
	Yeah.
	And you have that.
	I just saw CNN, and wow, they really got into saber rattling.
	It's almost like you're writing the script for them.
	Yeah, looks like.
	Hey, speaking of sabers, the Polish officer corps still carries them, but our guys had to teach them how to use them properly.
	Is that so?
	Yeah, the Polish guys were grabbing them by the blade and trying to stick them into the scabbard handle first.
	Like, no, you grab the handle.
	These dummies were just slicing their hands up right and left.
	Wow.
	I gotta go, Jimmy.
	I'm still in a rotten mood.
	I gotta go calm down.
	Think about something relaxing and comforting.
	Like a nice walk on the beach or a mysterious explosion somewhere on the island of Taiwan.
	Ah, that sounds nice.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
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