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Sept. 9, 2022 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Beep.
Hi, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, sweet cheeks.
This is George.
Hey, Digo, George.
Thanks for calling.
The cloon.
What's on your mind, buddy?
Jimmy, did you see my interview in the New York Times?
Check that.
Mine and Julia Roberts' co-interview.
No, George, I guess I missed it.
Oh, man.
We had so much fun.
Just fun.
Two old pals just joking around.
And if I may say so, that jocular spirit really came through in the printed word.
That's nice.
Wow.
What were you being interviewed about?
Well, JD, as you may know, Jules and I have a new film coming out, the romantic comedy.
I didn't know.
With Julia Roberts, you can't go wrong.
And it's called Ticket to Paradise.
She and I play a divorced couple who fly to Bali to stop our daughter from getting married and making the same mistake we did.
Wow.
Sounds like a fun romp, George.
Oh, it's fun.
It was so much fun to make.
In the interview, we talk about how we had a kissing scene, me and Julia, and it required about 80 takes because we were just laughing so hard.
Oh, God, I hate you.
I see.
I see.
I'm not kidding, Jimbo.
Giggle fits to beat the band.
Yeah.
We couldn't control ourselves.
J-Rob and I have been platonic friends for so long.
The idea of kissing was just, it's just ridiculous.
Two professionals, and we just couldn't pull it off.
Finally, we got it in one of these takes, and we were like, thank God, we got it.
That's over.
Done.
Moving on.
And then we had sex just for fun.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Yay!
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Just for fun.
Just for fun.
Mr. Kag.
Letting your two characters kiss seems like spoiling the plot a little, don't you think?
Oh, come on.
Like, no one's going to not see that coming.
It's a romantic comedy, for Christ's sakes.
This is paint by numbers shit.
No surprises.
Happy ending guaranteed.
Any bored housewife could guess the entire finished screenplay by seeing the poster and the tagline.
Easy money.
But boy, I wish I were in Venice right now.
I hate missing that festival.
Just a grand time.
I mean, Can is tough for sure.
But Venice really has its charms.
If nothing else, for the city of Venice itself.
I hear it's very romantic.
Oh, it's a nutbuster.
If you can't get laid there, just hang up your spurs.
But this year, oh, the drama.
My God, it's off the chain.
And this is what movies are all about.
You know, I heard snippets, but I don't really understand any of it.
Okay, get this.
You know, Olivia Wilde, right?
No.
Actress turned director made this flick called Don't Worry, Darling, with Harry Styles and Florence Pugh.
You know them, right?
George, just assume the answer is no to all this.
Okay, 10-4, buddy.
So Olivia dumped hubby Jason Sudakis, Harry Styles guy, right?
And so that's her boyfriend now.
And she replaced Shia LaBouf as the lead.
And apparently, this teased off Miss Flo, aka Florence Pugh.
So now we have a full-on cat fight between director and leading lady.
How hot is that?
So there's all this tension in Venice with them promoting the movie.
George, I'm not really interested in this kind of stuff.
Oh, why not?
Come on, live a little.
Get into it.
It's fun.
So they're not speaking, and Miss Flo is nowhere to be found.
And also in the middle of this is Chris Pine, if you can believe it.
I can't believe it.
No, I can.
I can believe it.
Oh, okay.
Okay, wise guy.
Anyway, he's in the movie, too.
And he is stoneface being around these idiots in Venice.
Just Xanaxed out.
He sat next to Harry Styles, who literally said he likes this movie because it's a real movie.
Just a dumb fucking board.
The internet is going crazy.
Now, there's a conspiracy theory out there about a video that supposedly shows Styles spinning on Pine.
Is that really what a conspiracy theory is?
For Hollywood Twitter, it is.
Of course, it didn't happen, but people are being absolute morons online, and it's super entertaining.
So this is why you wish you were in Venice?
Not just that.
And, and, and, the lovely Anna de Armas has just landed there to promote her new film, the NC17-rated biopic of Marilyn Monroe entitled Blonde.
Very controversial.
Not even a biopic, really.
It's based on a fictionalized novel based on Marilyn's life.
Already a controversy and sure to be a juicy scandal at the premiere.
I love Hollywood, baby.
What would the scandal be about?
The rating, Geronimo.
NC fucking 17.
That's harder than a hard R. Every time a flick gets slapped with that baby, the question is, why?
What's in there?
What do they show?
Is there actual penetration?
Because that'll do it.
Actual penetration.
Please, baby Jesus, give me sweet, sweet penetration.
Man, I love the movies.
You know, George, I always took you for an actual thespian, you know, an actor who loved his craft, acting, storytelling.
I thought that's why you love movies.
Come on, give me a break.
This is the shit I live for.
The scandal, the controversy, Hollywood Babylon.
I guess I thought more of you.
Jimmy, I love fun.
Come on.
I was the Batman with nips for crying out loud.
Remember those fun nips?
Yes.
The Edward Norris evinced and offrios.
I love them.
But I leave that pretentious acting shit to them.
For me, it's all about the glitz and glam, the red carpet, the babes, and the gronies in Tuscany.
It's a good life.
I'm happy you're happy.
Should have stuck with those acting classes, Jimmy.
Yeah.
Thanks, but I'm very happy doing what I'm doing.
And quite frankly, I'd rather be me than you.
That's not true.
Okay.
You want to get sushi sometime?
More than you'll ever know.
Thanks for calling, George.
Keep it sleazy, my brother.
Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
So good luck the bullshit they can't afford.
Watch and see as a jack dog.
Comedium speeds and jumps comedium and hit some head-on.
It's the Jimmy Tor show.
We have a special guest in studio with us.
Ben Glebe is a stand-up comedian that TBS called one of the funniest comedians working today.
He also hosts the game show Idiot Test on Game Show Network and Pluto TV.
His second hour stand-up special, Ben Glebe the Mad King, just dropped on YouTube.
Please welcome our guest back to the show, Ben Glebe.
Hi, Ben.
What's going on, Jimmy?
Good to see you.
Thanks for having me back.
Well, our special, you dropped it on YouTube.
Can I show people a clip of it?
Here's what it looks like.
Love that.
And let's show people a little bit of a clip of it.
Here we go.
Remember early in the pandemic, we were all sure we were going to die.
Here we go.
Remember early in the pandemic, we were all sure we were going to die.
Pandemic, it's almost over, but maybe not.
But it could be, but we don't know.
There's a chance that it might be or it might not be.
It's over, but almost over, but not really, but it's still going strong.
It's surging, but it's a weaker surge.
It's a weaker surge, but affecting more.
It's affecting more, but it's affecting them less.
It's affecting less people in a more intense way and more people in a less intense way.
It could be done, but it's not done.
It's important to get vaccinated, but if you do, you also got to get boosted.
Until the booster raves off and you got to get another booster, in which case you might still get it.
You probably will still get it.
You'll definitely get it.
But if you're not boosted, you're going to get it less or more.
And then if you're not at all vaccinated, oh, you're going to get it.
And it's going to be worse.
But for some people, it's still going to be worse.
But not as many people will it be bad for.
So I'm glad two years in, we finally got a handle on it.
Glad we got it figured out.
That's Ben Glebe from Helium Comedy Studios.
Where was that?
Yeah, Philly.
Is that Philly?
Yeah, it looks like Philly.
Yeah, good club, great club.
I didn't know that they had their own comedy studios.
They just started.
Yeah, they just started trying to get into the content game.
And they've produced a lot of specials.
The first four specials were Alonzo Bowden, myself, Jade Cotapreda, and Randy Feltface.
Feltface?
With the great puppets of all time.
Oh, it's a puppet last name.
He's a puppet, yeah.
Oh, okay.
I think his pronouns are he.
He felt.
I played that Philadelphia room.
It's a great room, isn't it?
Oh, it's lovely.
It's just a classic comedy room.
Low ceilings.
Low ceiling, great.
But good lighting.
And I even had, to show how broad our reach is, Kurt, we had Hasidic Jews.
I had a table of Hasidic Jews show up to see my show.
Wasn't that something?
Wow, that's nice.
While they're joking, they can also be swinging around on their sideburns, just playing like a schoolgirl, having a great time.
I think that's nice.
Also, doesn't it speak to the real insecurity of comedians?
We always say low ceilings, but nobody doesn't know what that means, knows what it really means to us.
It just means it makes it sound like there's more laughter.
It makes laughter.
Yeah.
There's nothing worse than doing it in a high ceiling.
Oh, God.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Where the laughs dissipate up in, like, heat, and they rise in the air and disappear.
I don't want the actual amount of laughs ever being heard.
I'd like that laughs bouncing off of walls, making it seem like there's more people there.
Now, I haven't seen your whole special yet.
I've just seen this clip.
Is it available right now on YouTube?
It is.
Yeah.
It's up.
And the reviews have been, like, bonkers.
Best of my whole life.
Maybe the highlight of my entire stand-up career is that Kelly Carlin just tweeted on the official George Carlin Twitter account that it reminded her of her dad's approach and recommends people watch it.
So that's...
Oh, isn't that sweet?
Pretty insane.
That's very nice.
Yeah, it was pretty insane.
Wow, that's very nice.
Wow.
I got a little teary-eyed when I saw that.
Yes.
Kelly's a very nice woman, and she's always been nice to us.
So, and I liked her book and her one-person show about her followers.
Oh, the Carlin Home Companion.
Fantastic.
Yeah, yeah.
So were you afraid to drop it on YouTube?
Because, again, I haven't seen it.
They're so picky about anything.
Like, you just talking about...
I was like, oh, I wonder if he's going to say something that violates a YouTube thing.
Because YouTube has all these crazy rules that they didn't change.
They put in all these rules at the beginning, and they're still in place, even though we've learned a lot more about it.
But were you afraid of that?
I was.
I was.
And I think...
I mean, I don't know what even shadow banning means, but I feel like I'm getting that, whatever that is.
I know what that is.
It means they don't tell you.
They don't tell you, but they're just squelching you in the algorithm.
And so I am afraid of that.
But in this weird time where it seems like free speech is kind of disappearing more every day, that still seems the best option.
Because it also is the biggest reach, that there's no barriers to entry.
Yeah.
And I didn't even pitch...
My first special was on Showtime.
I didn't even pitch this to Showtime or HBO or Netflix or any of the streamers, because that's great for prestige and better for money.
But I want right now to hopefully exponentially grow my fan base.
Also, you're a white guy.
I'm a white guy.
I'm not in their wheelhouse.
They're not interested.
Exactly.
But even though there was a risk with a lot of the things I talk about, that it would be a little bit suppressed.
It's one place people can share very easily and click a button.
And so that's why I'm going on shows like yours and trying to spread the word.
So hopefully people watch it and share it.
And we can kind of beat their own beating of me.
That's your best shot is to do it the way you're doing it.
You know Nick Mullen and Stavros and them?
I just saw Stavros.
Like that podcast, Comptown.
I mean, it's called Comptown, dude.
That's one of the biggest.
The algorithm is not pushing that down?
Yeah.
Well, I'm sure it is.
Don't matter.
Like the algorithm can only do so much.
If people want to hear what you're saying, they're going to get it.
For sure.
Yeah.
So and what do you find?
So you're going out and doing comedy now.
Like I have a whole chunk on the COVID narrative, the vaccines.
I got vaccine injured and I point out the contradictions of the establishment and and people are on board for it.
I was I thought it wasn't.
So people are ready to hear.
And what do you what's your experience like with comedy audiences in this day and age of COVID vaccines?
MAGA, Biden.
What's it like for you?
I find that people are pretty open to jokes making fun of COVID and all the protocols we've been putting through.
People realize there's just I mean, I'm not against the vaccine by any means.
I'm pro vaccine, but I'm also pro messaging.
That makes sense.
And pro not usually contradictory messaging coming from our government and our organizations constantly.
That's very frustrating.
I feel like politically people are a lot less open minded when you're specifically talking about politics.
But I also find that, you know, Biden supporters are more open minded by far than Trump supporters.
Trump supporters claim to be very, you know, all about free speech.
And they're the most snowflakey sensitive people.
Yeah.
So how what was your take on Biden's speech?
I liked it.
I know you hated it.
I liked it.
I liked it.
I thought that that it was calling it like it is.
I know you disagree.
you don't think i was watching your video today you don't think there's a difference between hillary camp claiming that she won the election and not respecting trump's win and and the same happening with Biden.
But there's an enormous difference is that when Hillary lost, she admitted she lost.
And then more importantly, there was not every Democrat in Congress vote, nearly every Democrat voting not to certify Trump's election.
There was an actual admission of the reality of, okay, we can be upset and there were things to look into with infiltrations of our elections, but he's the duly elected winner.
Nonetheless, we can fix our systems, but doesn't mean we don't respect that this person is president or acknowledges he's president.
And the Republicans in Congress almost in total don't.
And to me, that is incredibly dangerous.
And I know also, Jimmy, you don't think that we live in a well-functioning democracy anymore, but whatever shred of it we have left is eroded and destroyed by people not even saying that we can have a common set of facts.
And when somebody loses an election, they've lost.
And I think that's a big problem.
So you didn't see the headlines or the videos of Hillary Clinton calling Trump an illegitimate president.
He didn't live through five years.
I saw that.
Wait a minute.
He didn't live through five years of Russia gate, where every person who went against the establishment was called a red, was red baited and called a Russian.
And everybody said the election was a hoax and that it was thrown because by Russia and Putin in collusion, and that's why they hate Jenna Friedman didn't cry to you that Russia hacked our democracy.
And I quote, Russia hacked our election.
How'd they do that, Jenna?
The machines?
What do you mean?
Well, they did to an agreement.
They did to a degree with Facebook.
They did it with Facebook.
Do you think people would have all voted for Hillary if it hadn't been for those dank memes from Russia?
So the idea.
I don't think everybody would have, but it definitely makes an impact.
And furthermore.
Do you know how much money they spent on the advertising on Facebook?
I don't.
So they spent $100,000 and they spent $50,000 before the election and $50,000 after.
So Donald Trump got $2 billion in free media from.
So if you think $50,000 effectively.
Fair enough.
So this is the propaganda narrative that the establishment preaches, right?
That, oh, Russia infiltrated our election.
They just couldn't stand that they lost to a game show host.
And that's what's happening now: they're so corrupt.
Both parties are so corrupt that they can't beat a game show host.
The Republicans can't beat Trump in their own primary, and the Democrats can't beat him at the ballot box.
Well, I'm a game show host that ran for president and they beat me.
So they can sometimes, just for the record.
But they did last time, right?
So I believe that Trump beat Hillary Clinton, and I believe Biden beat Trump.
Yeah.
But you're okay.
It was okay.
I agree with that, of course, too.
Yeah.
So, but why do you think it was okay for four years straight, now going on six years straight, to say that the 2016 election was stolen by Russia or was that?
Why is it okay to say that, but it's not okay to question the 2020 election?
I don't question either.
But I'm saying if you're going to allow them to question 2016 at the top of their lungs and redbait every one of their political enemies to do it, why can't other people question the election?
I think that the answer is that both to a degree are both questionings to a degree are wrong.
But I don't think for all four years, but not questioning is not wrong.
So I don't think for all four years, most Democrats were questioning Trump's legitimacy as president.
There absolutely was a year, year and a half, maybe two in there of like, he's not my president.
I think that's more of a protest statement than saying he's not actually the president.
That's what I think.
And that dissipated to just a lot of things he did that I think were not okay, but that is still very, very different.
And there was evidence.
$50,000 maybe is not election changing, but that is actual substantive evidence versus no substantive evidence of fraud in the 2020 election and the lawmakers voting.
Why do you think there's not a difference between some of the most angry people on each side of this very messed up spectrum protesting and bitching about it compared to the lawmakers themselves validating that?
Because you don't say that either was fraudulent, right?
But one side in power says it was.
And that's the 2020 Republicans saying that Trump was cheated and still say it and still support it.
And Trump is still saying it wasn't a fair election and they're still supporting it and him.
Won't you acknowledge that's a difference?
No.
Why?
No, I would say Russia Gate was a non-stop.
Not accept it.
Yes, 100%.
Not from lawmakers.
What are you talking about?
What votes were there to decertify?
Well, I remember when Trump won, they were trying to get the people in the Electoral College to vote against it.
Remember, there was a big movement to get them to do that.
Also, I remember that.
And so RussiaGate, which never stopped.
It's still going on.
So to me, that is a denial of the 2016 election.
And they did it in a really deleterious way that it really harmed our country.
How about the impeachment?
Because he might have held up funds to Ukraine.
Because that didn't end up being relevant at all.
I wish they had to hold out more funds to why are they giving any goddamn funds?
No, that as a general point of priorities of spending.
You mean this hero kept funds from going to Ukraine for once?
No, no, no, hold on.
And we should impeach someone for that.
No, hold on.
You cannot withhold funds for your own personal campaign reasons.
That's obvious.
That's obvious, right?
You can't be the president and co-mingle that with your election.
Did you not see Biden give up a talk proudly how he said, you get that prosecutor out of here or you're not getting those funds because they were checking on Hunty Boy's parisma connections and he wanted the guy out of there.
And he bragged about it.
There's clips of it.
I don't think he said that.
I would like to hear that clip.
I don't think Biden said you get that prosecutor out of there or we withhold funds.
Do you think the president election is well, I guess, and I could just speak for myself here.
I don't see it as anything more than a world's greatest grandpa contest.
And some people are like, oh, no, he's not my grandpa.
But what do you think the president actually does?
Because since Biden's been in, can you think of a single thing that's better that all the stuff were like what?
Sure.
Like he just forgave a lot of student loans, something that you guys probably thought would not happen.
I think, Jimmy, you thought that wouldn't happen and it happened.
Yeah, again, he gave a half million.
He did something that was so shitty it pissed off everybody.
Yeah, but weren't you in favor of forgiving student loans?
I'm 100% in favor of that.
And he did that.
Forgiving.
degree didn't he he didn't do it to So we don't have a public option.
We don't have- He ran on it.
We didn't get a $15 minimum wage.
He ran on it.
He needed that.
He's finishing the wall.
He's finishing Trump's wall in Arizona.
That's insane.
Kids are in worst cages now.
And I'm no big Biden defender.
Don't get me wrong.
I think that the guy is absolutely pretty close to the middle on most things.
And I don't think it's where you need to be.
I think you need to be a much more bold leader.
And I don't think Biden's winning any awards on that.
But you just said name something he did.
I think that.
He also passed a big infrastructure bill.
That's important.
He also is investing in trying to combat climate change.
That's important.
And got that passed.
So he had a very, you could have said this great, you know, two months ago, but there's been gains and there's been changes.
Climate change combating that's going on.
So he's talking about the Inflation Reduction Act.
They shouldn't even call that.
It shouldn't have been called that.
What's that?
Which has required drilling in it.
That's the language.
So if they want to do something green, they're required.
Does that sound like a green thing to do?
Depends who you're drilling, I suppose.
So anyway.
The wetlands.
It's just no, I'm all no, there are a lot of people who think that there is a difference in the parties.
There are a lot of people who think that the Republican Party is funded by different people than the Democratic Party is funded by.
I agree with you on that too.
That's why.
They all serve the same people.
100%.
Look, the system is incredibly broken.
And the biggest issue is getting this dark money, this secret money influence out of our government, out of our politics.
We should not be having the ability of these super rich secret billionaires deciding who our leaders are.
And no doubt, no doubt, I grant you this, and I've always said it.
Both sides are very similar.
Both sides are very corrupt.
And both sides are not most of the time overall as their deep internal desire pushing for our interests.
But the difference that I see is that that said, there also are public-facing policy positions that each side holds.
And on top of everything, I just admitted, the Democrats push things that help people that care about the future and that help that care about fairness and equality in this country more than the Republicans do.
It's just the cherry on top of the corruption on the Democratic side helps people a little bit more than the Republican side helps keep more of it for just the greedy billionaires and just for their cronies and their pals that are the ones who are doing that.
Do you not acknowledge that?
There's not a difference in what they fight for on top of a deep well of corruption.
No.
But those issues are true.
Those are obviously true.
What they say they're doing.
They're not doing it.
But look at the things we just talked about that just passed.
So the infrastructure.
That's garbage.
Wait a minute.
So the bill that you're talking about, the climate change bill, is a giveaway to the big oil companies, and that's why it was allowed to pass.
So this is, again, it's just propaganda that it's a good thing.
And there are some things that- But for everything that funds clean energy, you have to drill a fucking oil well if you want to insane.
And so it's insane.
So it's a negative.
But if that bill, that same bill were passed by Republicans, it wouldn't have that little bit of good in there either.
And you're not saying it's a major difference, but it is a difference.
How can these people not believe in the system?
I'm not saying I'm no advocate for the system.
I mean, it's dangerous that people aren't believing in this system when you describe it so well.
I'm no advocate for the system, but there's a marginal difference.
And so if you're going to pay any mind to the two sides, I think as you just did, Jimmy, you have to acknowledge there are sometimes kernels of things that are helpful.
There are crumbs, just like in the CARES Act that it was, that every Democrat voted for.
That was a giveaway.
That was the biggest upward transfer of wealth in human history.
And every Democrat voted for it.
And they got crumbs.
And so, again, this is a one-party system.
And this isn't me making it up.
They've been saying this since the fucking 70s.
And it's true, which is why the American worker hasn't had a race since 1980.
100%.
And, you know, Barack Obama wasn't a departure from George Bush.
He was a continuation of George Bush.
And that's why we got Donald Trump.
It wasn't because of racism.
It was because black people in Milwaukee wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton after they just voted for Barack Obama twice and their lives got worse.
That's not me saying that.
That's a direct quote from a New York Times article who went and interviewed black and brown people in the cities in Milwaukee to find out why they didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
And the reason was they voted for Barack Obama twice, their life got worse.
Barack Obama took us from two wars to seven.
Barack Obama kicked 5.1 million people out of their house while making sure that the banks got their bonuses.
Barack Obama is the one who departed twice as many Hispanics as Donald Trump.
And what I said what was going to happen with Donald Trump is that he was going to put an ugly face on the horrible shit our bipartisan government has been doing all along.
And son of a bitch, he did.
That's what I said too.
I wrote an article for the Huffington Post when Trump was running saying exactly that, that he probably was the president America deserved because he was like the dark knight that America needed.
In a way, he was putting exactly the accurate face, not even ugly face, the ugly face on the ugly things we've done.
100% agree with that.
We have had a lot of polished, slick political language making people not realize that they're being sold down the river.
And Trump at least was an ugly guy being like, I'm selling you down the river.
You cool with that?
He didn't make any big structural changes either, but he at least admitted that shit.
And that I will grant you, absolutely.
But also, there are while trying to change the system.
I mean, absolutely.
You cite what I think is one of the most important things people don't realize, the studies that people's desires, no matter what side of the political spectrum they're on, make a statistically insignificant effect on whether or not policy changes towards what the people want.
So in light of that, why would it matter if they think the election was legitimate?
It don't affect them either way.
Because.
So it does.
And that's why I push to represent us, represent.us's plan to pass these anti-corruption bills to get the money out, to stop this partisan gerrymandering.
You told me when I interviewed you and running for president.
I told you at the time that's never going to happen.
Well, it is starting to happen bit by bit.
I mean, look, there's ranked choice voting now in Alaska.
There are little, there are these anti-corruption bills passing solely.
But so why it does matter, Kurt, to answer your question, is, again, the bigger problem is the system being broken and that needs to be fixed.
But at the same time, tax rates matter.
At the same time, it matters whether the richest people get a tax break or poor people get a tax break.
I would have said that, but let's face it, they're just going to throw it down the drain in Ukraine anyway.
So what is it?
Honestly.
I agree.
That's barbarous.
It's like, hey, tax the rich.
What are you going to do with the money?
Spend it around here.
No, we're going to give it to Ukraine immediately.
True.
I mean, it's pretty bonkers that we never have money to solve any domestic issues.
Because if war happens, we have 40 billion, 50 billion.
They all get together.
That makes no sense.
That great blood red speech you love of Biden, where he talks about their choice.
Isn't it amazing how bipartisan?
What is your background?
What do you mean by background?
Oh, I took that as a...
Also, I don't have two shadowy Marines standing behind me waiting to initiate the purge.
You felt that moronic speech.
Well, I will give it to him.
He really got it to get the most non-senile I've seen in a while getting excited about a purge.
Even improvised taking down a heckler in a cogent way.
We all need to get united to attack these other guys.
They've made their choice.
They've made their choice.
No, but that's where I disagree with you is because you can't, the right all came out so aggressively mocking Biden's.
I'm not to the right, by the way.
What's that?
I'm not to the right.
I understand that.
And I hate Democrats more.
And I'm not to the right.
I don't know what that.
I don't understand why.
Besides just being the enemy of comedy, which is what I do, that's one major thing.
I don't know if you were around when I had the whole media try to ruin my life.
I remember that.
When I was right.
I don't remember that.
I don't remember the right thing.
But I know that snowflake shit you're talking about.
I've had it all.
I had when the alt-right was a thing.
Yeah.
Briefly, I had them try and do all kinds of fucked up things to me.
It was nothing compared to what the pieces of shit, especially at HuffPo.
I don't know why every hack, nobody, a comedian gets a job at HuffPo, like sharecrop journalizing.
But they tried to ruin my life.
They went out of their way to do it.
I lost my goddamn guild insurance because I ain't going to get a guild job.
No, it's fine.
I don't want one.
But what the hell are you talking about?
Yeah, I don't remember snowflakes.
How so?
I'm just saying you asked me for my personal.
I was asking personal.
And if I mention anything negative about Trump, I immediately get heckled and yelled at.
Heckled to yelled at.
They try to get you fired from your job?
No, they didn't.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's not as bad then.
I don't remember what the cause of your thing was.
What was the issue?
Yeah, nobody does.
Is that something?
Fair enough.
And the media spent a week on it.
The whole media.
And nobody remembers.
Isn't that odd?
I take it on in my special too.
The far left overwokeness where you don't allow people to make jokes.
You don't allow people to question rapping.
Working class stuff, right?
I hate the working class.
They hate them because it's a bunch of rich kids that went to boohoo school and they learned that they get to be oppressed even though they're loaded.
And then that way you can bypass all the uncomfortable stuff and just make it about all the great, unwashed, deplorable MAGA people and have a little wall in our heart.
We'll build a wall in our heart.
But the difference I see is both sides are too extreme.
Both sides are repressing of free speech in that way and repressing ideas.
But one of those two sides, the worst, I mean, they try to take, they ruin your life.
So you have a, you have an example.
Well, they didn't ruin my life.
Right.
But they tried.
They literally, in those words, said that to me.
So what's the snowflake thing?
What are you talking about?
Nothing compares to.
I'll tell you.
Because generally speaking, what I think the far left, while I think they can be ridiculous with their policing of language and all of this, the worst that they're fighting for, if they win, would be, oh, you have to be a little more careful around how you address certain marginalized groups of people.
Whereas on the right, what they're pushing for is the marginalization of those people.
Straight up, you don't know what you're talking about.
With regards to what's not politeness, you will do as you're told on penalty of you're never going to work.
Give me an example.
I mean, I just told you this thing happened to me.
I know 20 other people.
So tell me a specific topic-based example.
What are you talking about?
I don't know what.
I don't know what we're talking.
But let me know.
That snowflake thing was ridiculous.
The enemies of comedy are not coming off the right right now.
I've never had my life threatened by somebody on the left, but I perform and told jokes about Trump.
And a guy said, careful talking about the president like that.
You're going to get a bullet in the back of your head.
He just says you got shadow banned for your vaccine.
I don't know what issue in the special shadow banned it.
So I actually had to.
But I get ragged about.
You're life threatened with a gun to your head because of stand-up.
So how was what I said bullshit, Kurt?
I've been robbed after.
It wasn't about the set.
I have, I, I have, of course, we've all, I mean, I've been, I've had people threaten me.
I was, I remember I was making John McCain jokes and fucking guy got up and go, you better not talk about he's a veteran.
You know, that show like, oh my gosh.
First blood, Jimmy.
I had it.
Yeah.
So I, and I, I, you know, I was just like, whoa, I had to talk that guy down.
And I had to go, hey, I'm not disrespecting anybody.
I'm just making jokes.
That's what comedians do.
I make fun of everybody.
And I had to, I had to really talk this guy down because there was violence going to happen.
And so I used, but I've all, you know, it's hard to tell because when I go into, like when I would go to Texas, I would do George Bush jokes.
This is back when he was president.
Yeah.
And, you know, I was trying to get him through shit.
I like it.
I like when people fucking say shit back.
You're right.
And that's when the guys would come up to me and shake my guy came up to me and shake my hand updores and he shook it a little too hard.
And he goes, hey, that's shit about George Bush.
And he like pulls me into him like that.
And so I've had a lot of that shit happen.
George Bush is a hero who's better than Trump.
So you're kind of wrong for that.
I am wrong.
Remember, he's rehabilitated now.
And I did the same in Texas many times making fun of Trump.
And they actually took it pretty well.
And in Texas, I happened to see they seemed, for some reason, more open.
Maybe the jokes were just very good.
Hey, you could threaten me.
Give me a death threat.
There's one thing I'm sure of when I get a death threat.
It ain't going to happen.
That's what you can bet on every time.
The people are going to kill you.
They're going to write, let's hang out.
They're not going to write, I'm going to kill you.
That's how you know they're not going to do it.
I don't care about that.
What I care about is a bunch of maniacs getting together like little political action groups trying to keep me from working or get me kicked off of things.
And I got a ton of friends they did that too.
If you ever bother to look it up, much like Russia Gate, that was nonsense.
Remember Gamergate?
That was all the same kind of lie.
Remind me of Gamergate?
Well, I don't want to talk about Gamergate, but I did have, I also did have the fake hashtag me too.
I mean, that's like that's what.
Well, a real hashtag doesn't mean there can't be fake accusations within it.
Right.
But the good thing about comedy is, Ben, is that you're funny.
And so you can talk about things that I might disagree with, but I'll still laugh because you present it in a funny way.
That happened.
It just happened with me.
I saw Bill Burr a couple weeks ago, and there's a couple of things I didn't, but he has said it in such a funny way.
I told you you can't help but laugh.
And Chris Titus, too.
I disagree with everything Chris Titus had to say, but he made me laugh.
And I told him, I go ahead, say, high compliment.
I disagree with everything you're saying, but you're still funny enough to make me laugh.
And that's what comedy is about.
100%.
And so just watching that, you're the thing.
That was hilarious.
Thank you very much.
So I really enjoyed that.
Thank you.
And I really try with this special.
I don't mention Trump's name once in the special very intentionally.
And I tried really hard to create a special that calls out a lot of the absurdity in our country, calls out a lot of the bullshit polarization that we create of a whole segment about how we are not two sides.
We are not red and blue.
We are not these parties that are put in these false camps and they color code us blue and red, literally like bloods and crips, the exact colors, bloods and crips, so that we think we're on opposite sides.
Maybe we could have more chill political discourse.
We rebranded the parties peach and lime green.
Maybe that would change things.
Lemon Lyme McConnell, good dude.
Really good dude.
I really tried in this special.
What's that?
Like a Dominican gay?
They're Trinitarias.
So I tried real hard to create a special that speaks to both sides.
Like even on, there's one issue I talk about in the special, specifically about people that are trying to make lives more difficult.
Bigoted people that are trying to make trans people's lives more difficult.
And the whole purpose of the joke is to say, you can hate.
No one's ever going to end racism.
No one's going to ever hate, end bigotry or homophobia.
You can still hate.
Go ahead and do it.
You can be as unhappy in your life as you want.
Just don't try to pass laws to make other humans' lives more difficult.
Then go ahead and hate all you want because no joke, no concept is going to ever be like, wait a minute, whoa, I shouldn't hate anymore.
That guy's joke was so great, but it might make somebody think like, that's a good point.
Maybe I don't need it as my top priority to push legislation about bathrooms that aren't really an issue.
Now, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to diminish the power of comedy because, you know, when I always wanted to do jokes that made people think and maybe change their opinion on things, I still do.
And, you know, that's, you think, am I, who, who am I?
Am I full of myself?
Just go try to be funny, you know, stuff like that.
But then every once in a while, I'll hear a story.
Like a comedian friend of mine, I did it.
I used to do a joke about not hitting kids, right?
And it was all this stuff.
And he was pro-hitting kids.
And then he saw my bit and it made him think.
Yeah.
I mean, spanking your kids.
That kind of thing.
And then he saw me think and it made him think.
And then we had a conversation about it.
And it changed his mind.
Yeah.
And then he started doing a different joke.
He used to have a joke because he had a joke about hitting kids in his act.
And I fucking.
Is it wrong now officially?
Like, I don't have kids, so I don't know.
You're not supposed to hit kids at all now, right?
I don't know.
But let me finish my story.
So he then sent me an email.
Let's just then Like five years later, he said, hey, a guy came up to me today after a show and said, I used to hit my kids.
And then I saw your act and I made me think.
And I don't hit my kid anymore.
And so this comedian sent me an email saying, just so you know, there's one kid in the world who isn't getting hit because of you.
Yeah.
And that made me feel so fucking good.
And I'm like, oh, so you don't know.
So it just made me redouble my efforts as an artist.
It's not up to me what happens to the stuff I create and say.
It's up to me to create it.
100%.
And you have to do it by your own moral code or whatever you think is right and wrong.
That's what I don't like about a lot of comedy today is that a lot of comics seem to write jokes just to be as extreme as possible without even believing what they're saying just to be incendiary.
I think that is irresponsible in a day where words travel on the internet and can affect people's lives negatively or positively.
Who do you see that's like that?
I always hear about this fabled guy who's just trying to be...
By the way, I hate edginess.
I've never been edgy.
People say that nonsense to me and I'm like, that's a very mediocre way to look at something.
I just say a thing that I think is funny.
But who is these guys that are just being extreme that are not open micers or some guy that are comics?
I don't know any of them.
I can tell you one.
Who?
Brian Regan.
He's so incendiary.
Just for the fucking...
He's just a button pusher.
Just for the lulls, this guy.
Yeah.
That seems like a real stupid thing thrown around by people.
No, there are examples of it.
There are examples of it.
Like who?
Okay, so I'll give you an example.
So you just mentioned Bill Burr's special.
I love Burr.
I love Burr as a person.
I love Burr as a comic.
One of my favorites.
I think he's the number one or two working today.
But I don't think two of his most recent specials needed a joke that kind of excuses hitting women.
I don't think it's necessary in there.
You're talking about a joke that hitting kids.
I don't think you need the bit.
Burr's brilliant enough.
He doesn't...
What was the bit?
He had a bit where he goes, you can hit women or he...
Yeah, two.
Which is what?
Two specials.
There was one special, I think the one in London maybe, where one of the punchlines was like, so you give her a little smack to the face.
No big deal.
And then in the most recent special, it was the Sean Connery story about him saying people tried to...
Of course, it's dumb to cancel a dead person.
That's the funny part of the joke.
You don't cancel Sean Connery for a Playboy interview from 1960.
Wait, it is real or it isn't real?
I don't know.
I thought it was like Bigfoot.
No one's ever seen it.
I have no idea.
But you don't need the joke that goes, what's the worst thing that Sean Connery said in this interview?
Sometimes you have a girlfriend and you smack her around a little bit just to show her who's bosh.
And that's the punchline and the laugh.
Like, well, that's pro-domestic violence.
You don't need that joke in the special.
So there's your answer.
I took it as a mockery of a Scottish accent.
Well, we can all get behind.
The Scottish accent is ridiculous.
It needs to be stopped.
I was pretty plopped, baked when I watched his special.
So I don't remember that part.
It's funny.
But would you agree if that's what the joke is?
Well, I have to watch it.
No, everything Bill Burr says...
You don't need any special.
It's funny.
Like, you put whatever you want.
If it's a...
If it's a...
I have to hear the joke.
Because the thing you're talking about, if that's a thing where he just said it to say it, then I'm like, oh, that's the worst consequences of it.
Let's say it's just that.
Just a pure antagonistic thing.
Then I won't laugh.
The end.
That's the consequences.
That's not the worst consequence.
Jimmy just told an anecdotal story about how a joke against hitting a kid stopped a kid from being hit.
So you think that means the converse is that if you make a joke...
100.
You know that's true, Kurt.
Come on.
You don't think there are people...
You people who didn't hit kids, but who didn't hit women heard this Bill Burr joke and they go, hey, that joke's right.
I should hit women.
There are people, there are millions of people on every topic that live right on the borderline, right?
And there's no doubt that those people live on the borderline that have maybe wanted to hit their spouse and thought about it and almost did it and they hear the comic that they love on a mainstream special that is promoted by one of the biggest corporations in the world saying, what's the big deal?
You just smack a little bit.
Did you absorb estrogen from the Chelsea Lately panel and that's where this is coming from?
So you can't follow...
Are you growing small breasts from the estrogen?
You can't follow a line of thought?
You can't follow...
Did your brain get...
You sound like a church lady.
Did your brain get too baked when you shaved your head?
And they have suicide and Dungeons and Dragons of Satan?
You just explained that a joke can affect someone's actions.
So you don't believe somebody...
So you're giving me a reformat.
Let me finish my point and answer it directly.
You don't believe there's somebody on the brink of wanting to hit their spouse and seeing a mainstream comedian, one of the most famous on earth, make it seem like it's okay that will then hit their girlfriend and be like, oh, who gives a shit?
I just smacked you around a little bit.
I don't know.
That never happens.
I think that's...
Zero cases.
Yes, I'm going to go ahead and say zero cases.
That shows a lack of your brain following common thought.
No, it's just I grew up in a crazy church, dude, where I had this drivel said to me nonstop about how heavy metal shoe is shied and rap is violence and blah, blah.
And it gets repackaged over and over again and people just act like they're not repackaging the same crappy argument.
Somebody's going to do that was going to do it anyway.
It wasn't because they saw Bill Burr's act.
Not true by any means.
Society, what becomes acceptable language determines what we see as acceptable.
That's why language changes.
You dig through a single statistic of any crime and show me where they saw a comedy act and that was the major thing.
Show me a statistic where it doesn't.
All of them.
There's plenty of examples of people who have taken things in pop culture and mimicked them and repeated them.
That happens.
Obviously that happens.
But at the beauty of comedy here, Ben.
Yes.
The beauty of comedy.
Is that it makes us all get along so well.
Is that we all get along.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Rodney King had it right while he was getting beaten to death on the floor.
Can't we all get along?
This is actually very good.
This is the most lively.
We don't usually have.
It's just the dumbest argument I heard in my whole life from these clucking in church ladies.
That you literally couldn't follow with your brain intellectually and then just banged out and said, did Chelsea Lately's panel cause estrogen and give you breasts?
That was your counter argument.
Because you sound like a dippy housewife.
No, you sound like somebody who can't understand consequence of action.
Who can't understand simple cause and effect.
So rap music causes murders.
In college, when I got really into Eminem's first album, me, a well-educated person, pretty well off, grown up, not rich, but not struggling for money, was so immersed in the violent rhetoric of Eminem's first album that my friend and I went out and wanted to find somebody to beat up.
We just couldn't find someone that night and we would have done it.
We were so riled up.
You couldn't find someone that you could take?
Yeah, that's correct.
That's correct.
Oh, we saw a lot of people.
You saw a lot of, there's a little motherfuckers everywhere.
There's a very small range of people that we could actually take, Jimmy.
We didn't find them that night.
We went home and had pop roundies.
Good thing I was already at home.
Because I would have gotten my ass that night.
Well, this is, this is good that we had this heated conversation because this will help your special, this is going to get you.
My special, The Mad King available now on YouTube.
This is going to, hold on, let me bring it up.
This is going to help it get more views for sure.
Yeah.
This is good.
Please debate in the comments whether you think I'm right or wrong in any joke.
It all helps the algorithm.
The problem is that you're going to be fucking funny and so nobody's going to be pissed off when they watch you.
But they still might be like funny but you're a fucking idiot kind of like Kurt just did for about five minutes.
No, no.
The censorship thing is no, the censorship there's no, it's not even an argument.
It's already settled.
Like, I'm just going to say what I want.
What's already settled?
The censorship that I can't believe it comes up.
It's ugly head comes up.
Where it's like, you don't think Joe Biden's crappy speech that you said was good potentially more inciting to bad shit than the bill burrow No, it's trying to stop bad shit.
It's trying to stop people.
And even if it's right, even if the premise is right that Hillary Clinton election deniers were the same, it doesn't mean that we can't stop that action now.
Maybe the speech should have said, maybe the speech should have said, and those who also denied Hillary's election are full of shit.
Hey, what about having a line?
If you think there's no purpose to public discourse, then unplug your fucking microphone right now.
So you mean censorship?
Do you think there's not censorship?
I never said the jokes should be censored.
That's why I said individuals should use their own morals to decide what their moral line is and try to not write jokes just for the joke's sake that maybe doesn't match your morals.
I don't disagree with that.
I don't even know.
That's all I said.
And you went off and said I had tits.
That's all I said.
Well, it's weird because I totally agree with the last thing.
Oh, good.
That's all I ever said.
I don't even disagree a little bit with the very last thing you just said.
I never said they should have censored Bill Burr's joke.
I said he should have self-decided whether that was something he was needed in that special.
Again, I'm going to have to.
You can play the joke right now.
Play it on YouTube.
Play it on YouTube.
Sean Connery joke, Bill Burr.
I'm sure it's right there.
Okay, we'll go to a break and come back.
Sure.
I'm going to find out with Bill, and I didn't want that, but all right.
No, I've seen Bill Burr, like I said, he does jokes that politically I don't, I oppose, but they're funny.
Yeah.
And I love him.
I love him.
And I'm like directly at him.
I appreciate the way he's twisting that.
And he's, because it's always about a perspective.
It's always like, well, if you look at it like this, then it's funny.
Or if you look at it like that, then it's funny.
And that's what he, to me, that's what I see him doing.
And I can't believe I would be really shocked.
I'll watch that clip, but I would be really shocked if Bill Burr was encouraging people to commit domestic violence.
I don't think he's encouraging people to do it, but I think the message from what I took from the joke was that in some instances, it ain't so bad.
Now, maybe the joke, and in Bill's defense, I need to look at the clip again.
Maybe he said back then it wasn't so bad in the 50s or 60s when Connery was smacking his girlfriends.
Maybe there was that qualifying sentence there still.
I don't think you need it in the special.
But, you know, it was crazy that Sean Connery did get away with saying that.
I said it.
And nobody mentioned it in the news.
This is the second time, but because Barbara Walters goes to the middle of the day.
He'd already, yeah, he had said before he was into that.
Yes.
And she goes, do you still go, yes, Bob Brown?
Never do a Scottish accent around me again, please.
It's very offensive.
Trump charms for Walmart.
We've got to swap from Shengshin to Ben Ghalib.
He said, he said, you'll have to get through my mantitz first.
He was saying developing, not large.
Thank you.
That's nice.
They're still there.
They're emotional tits.
That's nice of you.
Well, Ben, it's been great having you.
You know, we should have people like you in more often.
We should have you in more often.
I would love that.
This has been great, actually.
That's great art, too, by the way.
Isn't it incredible?
Incredible artist.
And I talk about obviously every one of those.
There's like 21 topics in this poster that I talk about in the special: five minutes tearing down organized religion, tearing down the sanctity of the founding fathers, tearing down people that do not allow free speech and don't let people speak that criticize protesting the anthem, women who think they're mermaids, and how that needs to stop.
And that could help women kind of advance on their own a little bit too if they stopped wanting to be mermaids.
Do you want equality?
Also, don't be mermaids.
We should give you equality, but don't also want to not have legs and be a fish creature.
Stuff like that.
Do you see a lot of mermaid type?
I do.
I was dating a girl.
We were sitting by my pool and she says to me, Ben, am I a mermaid?
And I said, no.
And I'm not even sure you're an adult anymore.
It was a comedian, too.
And you think Sean Connery's wrong?
Can you imagine if guys said shit like that to girls?
Baby, baby, baby, say I'm a dragon.
I have to say that.
Say I'm a fire breathing.
Somebody literally, I'm not kidding, said to me, turning like, would you slay a dragon for me?
And we watched TV.
I go, I don't even know what to say.
I'm like, maybe like a hippopotamus.
I didn't know how to answer it.
And she goes, take this seriously.
Oh, good.
Like, if so, if you ate a bowl of, would you eat a bowl of magic force if you knew you would get x-ray vision?
Take it seriously.
Take it serious.
Holy shit.
Ben Glebe, everybody check it's on YouTube.
So I bet there's a bunch of people jumping over there to watch it right now.
Ben Glebe on YouTube.
Thank you so much for stopping in.
Let me tell everybody, check out his game show network show, Idiot Test, and it's on Pluto TV also.
Thanks for coming in, Ben.
It's really been fun.
It's more fun than I expected.
My pleasure.
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Senate Democrats bullish on permitting reform despite odds.
Lawmakers are working toward an end-of-the-month spending deadline.
So at the end of this month, they have to have a bill that keeps the government open.
And if they don't, the government closes.
So that's called a must-pass bill.
Why do I tell you this?
Because Joe Manchin is now going to have a bill written for his donors in the oil industry, gas and oil industry.
And they're going to attach it to a government funding bill.
You see?
So watch this.
Democrats are grappling with how long a spending, how long a spending continuing resolution should run and whether they'll have enough support to attach the environmental permitting measure.
That's the thing that he wants.
The environmental permitting measure, Senate Energy and Natural Resource Chair Joe Manchin is negotiating with party leaders.
They promised, they promised the party leaders.
They promised Manchin to pass a bill by the end of the, as if he's the fucking president.
You do not break a promise to Joe Manchin.
They promised Manchin to pass a bill by the end of the fiscal year in exchange for him supporting the Inflation Reduction Act.
So didn't he get enough stuff in the act itself?
They had to.
Right?
But they got to give him another one.
The deal, which was blessed by the White House, could deliver speedier approval for Equatron's midstream corporations.
So there's this pipeline.
It's called Mountain Valley Gas Pipeline that's going to cross the state of West Virginia.
That's Manchin's home state.
And this bill is going to allow this pipeline to be completed.
And so that's why Manchin wants this, and they're going to give it to him.
But guess what?
Biden also wants it.
Don't think he doesn't.
The deal also may expedite approvals for new clean energy projects spurred by the climate.
So they're saying, oh, well, this will also help clean energy.
It may.
It may.
That's what they're saying.
Because sometimes you want to put up a windmill and you don't want to wait around for all the regulations.
So this will help us get windmills up.
Of course, this is what it's about this.
The Mountain Valley pipeline alone would lead to.
I mean, we just had someone touting the climate change policies at the Democrats.
Am I wrong, Dieilla, Ben?
That's what I say when I look at this.
Come on.
The Mountain Valley pipeline alone would lead to an annual emissions equivalent to over 89.
million metric tons of carbon dioxide.
And what I wish I would have said when we were talking with Ben is the Democrats and the Republicans are both driving towards a off a cliff.
The Democrats are driving five miles an hour slower than the Republicans.
They're both out of the cliff.
Is that something to hang your hat on and keep voting?
So we're going to keep doing that?
No, you don't keep doing that.
You look for a revolution.
So I wish I would have said that when he was here, but I didn't.
So this new thing that they're going to get, it's going to get 89 million metric tons of carbon dioxide every year.
Great.
This is equal to the emissions from 26 coal plants or 19 million passenger vehicles per year.
That's what Joe Biden is getting in into this into the bill.
What was it?
The Inflation Reduction Act.
Remember that?
Which was the, oh, it's going to help us.
Do you see what they're fucking doing?
Are you that stupid that you think that the Democrats really give a shit about climate change?
No, I know they don't.
It's just a little bit.
But it's also like a moral imperative, but just a little bit more moral.
So this bill could also make changes to bedrock environmental laws by putting two-year time limits on project review.
So they're going to shorten the time that you have to do environmental studies, whatever, to get the impact.
If the legislation is passed, it would mark a big win for oil and gas.
Guess what else was a big win for oil and gas?
The last fucking thing they just passed.
The Inflation Reduction Act.
Also a big win for oil and gas.
But people will tell you the Democrats are better on climate change.
So notable.
So guess what?
So there are people, they signed a letter.
So the progressives got together.
Now, this is what they call a must-pass bill, right?
Meaning that they have to pass this.
And they're going to need the votes of the squad, just like Nancy Pelosi could not get elected speaker without the votes of the squad.
The squad, if they would have withhold their votes on Nancy Pelosi, as the speaker, we could have got something.
They didn't withhold their vote.
They didn't force a vote on Medicare for all, and we got nothing.
Here's another chance for them to do something, it looks like.
So they that what they could do is threaten to withhold their vote on this bill.
That's what they should be doing.
You know what they are doing?
They fucking wrote a letter.
They signed onto a letter.
You know what would have been more effective if they had written it on the butt of an AOC dress?
They signed onto a letter asking Nancy Pelosi and Stenny Hoyer, the leaders of the Democrats in the House, to decouple the bills.
So we want to vote for the must-pass bill, meaning keeping the government open and running.
We know we're going to vote for that.
So please take this other bill that helps the oil and gas industry out of that bill so we don't have to vote for that too.
Now, if they really wanted that to happen, what they should be saying is we're not going to vote for your fucking funding bill unless you take this oil and gas Joe Manchin bill out of it.
They're not doing that.
What are they doing?
They're writing a sternly worded letter.
Probably a nicely worded one.
Probably.
You probably compromise on the sternness of the language.
Well, you can ask.
So that's what.
So that's what.
So here, AOC, Pamila Jayapal, Jerry Nadler, Katie Porter, and Jamie Raskin, as well as some House Democrats not always identify as a progressive, they've signed on to this letter.
But what they're not doing is pledging to withhold their vote for the bill.
They're not going to.
And it's the same thing like they did around forced to vote.
And nobody is going to make them withhold their vote.
Nobody's going to pressure them.
God, you've got to vote for the people pretending to do the right thing.
It's so clear to me.
Do you think the people at TYT, do you think the people at TYT are going to tell them to withhold their vote on this, to use their leverage?
They're not.
The good folks of the TIT network, I wonder what they'll say when.
The proposal, so this bill also requires that the president create a list of 25 energy projects deemed to be of strategic national importance.
At least five of the priority items shall be projects to produce, process, transport, or store fossil fuel projects or biofuels.
So they're forcing him to ramp up fossil fuel production, forcing the government, Joe Biden, this bill.
Well, you know, we're never going to stop until we just run out.
It's kind of like the cocaine principle.
You just got to get through this whole stash.
Yeah.
If Pelosi and Hoyer tie Manchin's pipeline bill to a must-pass bill like keeping the government funded next month, even progressives will feel obliged to vote for it, which is why they're going to do that.
But, Jonathan Larson, if you don't know this, I'll tell you that the squad could then withhold their vote on this.
Grevalia is asking House Democrats by end of business today to sign a letter.
Do you guys ever get tired of being this fucking pathetic?
Do you ever get tired of being this pathetic?
No.
The answer is no.
And the young Turks are going to tell, are not going to force the squad to use their leverage.
Now, what also could happen here is Nancy Pelosi tells the squad, I don't need your votes because there's so much shit in this for the oil industry that I can get Republicans to vote for this.
That could happen.
So wouldn't it be great for the squad and the progressives in Congress to expose the Democrats for being such fucking corporatists?
Wouldn't that be great if they didn't vote for it, but that Nancy Pelosi had to go get Republicans to pass it?
That would be great for progressives, they're not going to do that.
And nope, and TYT, Ryan Grimm, nobody's going to the intercept, nobody's going to pressure the squad to withhold their vote.
So you're saying the odds are pretty good, like in that top article.
Yes.
We think now, despite the odds, it might still make it, even with the potential squad being not completely on board.
This is my favorite thing.
It says, of course, it will be grimly ironic.
Ryan grimly ironic.
Ryan grimly ironic.
If leadership, meaning if Nancy Pelosi makes progressives pass Manchin's bill, hey, Jonathan Larson at TYT, I have news for you.
She can't make them do that.
She can't make them.
You know what they're going to do?
They're going to decide to support that bill because the squad are fucking sellouts to the corporation and the party.
That's what this is.
They can't make them.
Grimly ironic.
Oh, the thing I never thought would happen.
They can't make them do anything.
Yeah, grimly ironic is a white dress with tax the rich written on the back of it.
That's grimly ironic.
This is just standard how it works.
So there they are.
They're pretending that the women of the squad and the men of the squad don't have agency and they don't know how to, they can't do anything.
They can only do what Nancy Pelosi says.
That's the thinking of TYT.
Oh, God, I was watching some Fox clip.
I don't remember which guy, some Jagoff.
He's like, yeah, the squad's basically steering the whole Democratic.
Are they?
So let's see.
Let's see if the squad uses their leverage.
They're never going to use their leverage.
And let's see if TYT pressures them to use their leverage.
TYT will never pressure them to use their leverage.
Was that the hill they want to die on?
So here we are again with another quasi-force to vote moment, and the squad aren't going to do it again.
And TYT already said they can't do anything.
By the way, this guy works at TYT, just so you know.
That's why I keep saying TYT, because that guy.
Jonathan started making those t-shirts now.
Grimly ironic with the squad.
Fribbly ironic.
Fribbly ironic.
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