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July 22, 2022 - Jimmy Dore Show
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*Bell rings*
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
What's up, yo, man?
It's Brad Pitt.
Hey, Brad, how are you doing?
I'm burning up, man.
This is bullshit.
I'm in Europe right now, and there's a heat wave going on.
Sort of rude for them to schedule that not or no one I'd be here, in my humble opinion.
Yeah, and Europe's not equipped to handle heat like in other parts of the world.
You're telling me I'm in a suite at the Berlin four seasons, and I can't get this fucking thermostat to go below 72.
I can't sleep with us at 65 degrees.
Wait, don't don't they use Celsius there?
Yeah, but I had him rewire the entire hotel for me.
I don't have time to figure out that foreign-ass bullshit.
Jesus.
So, what are you doing in Berlin?
I am here to walk the carpet at the premiere of my new movie, Bullet Train.
I heard you made quite a stir with your fashion choice.
You're damn right, I did.
I wore a skirt.
I wore a skirt.
Yes, that you did.
A brown canvas jacket and matching skirt.
Why this departure from your usual masculine look?
Well, you know, people ask me the same thing at the radio code on the red carpet there, radio man.
And I replied, because it's hot.
The breeze feels good.
As if this were some split-second decision on my part, and this little ensemble hadn't been cooked up by my team weeks ago backstateside.
Right.
Right.
But I think we all know the reason.
I wanted to be all cool and non-binary.
I see.
I mean, I do, but I don't get it personally.
Oh, come on, Radio Man.
Haven't you ever felt like exploring your gender identity?
Uh, as written in this sketch, I have to say, no, I have not.
Oh, do it.
Radio man, explore your gender identity.
Personally, I think it'd be a good thing for your listeners to hear about.
No, Brad, I don't judge other people for their choice in this regard, but honestly, I don't have an gender identity.
I simply am a male.
A straight male.
I don't give it any thought.
I'm very comfortable with both those things, and then that's that.
Well, it's 2022, and sorry, but that isn't good enough.
Not if you want to be famous and cool.
What do you mean?
I just told you my truth or identity or whatever.
Why do other people get to do that, but not me?
Because you're not saying what cool people want you to.
We need you to say something like, masculinity is a prison or some shit.
Always struggle with what it means to be a man.
Or better yet, we need to have a conversation about toxic masculinity.
But I don't think that or any of those things.
You want the truth?
Okay.
Neither do I. I knew it.
But look, Radio Man, as I approached the big 6-0 and plagued by whisperings of bad behavior in my past, I needed to make a bold PR move.
One that not only says I am hip, open-minded, and with it, but one that also says I am now tautologically I cannot be a bad man.
And the choice was clear.
Wear a skirt in public.
I see.
It's a long-established tactic.
I wasn't the first.
Pharrell, Oscar, Harry Stiles.
They all skirted up before me.
A hot dude in a skirt is the new trend.
And it is the safest thing to do.
Because not one of us would you doubt for one second that we hadn't crafted our entire existence around getting puntay.
We're being honest, these skirt stunts only underscore how conventionally attractive we are and how aggressively heterosexual.
If anything, we'll end up with more shine on our rods because of it.
But we'll be called brave.
People will say we're exploring our manhood or some shit.
What a joke, baby.
Wow, I appreciate your honesty there.
Remember, it's got to be a hot dude in a skirt.
You cannot deviate from that formula where the accolades will not be forthcoming.
It can't be like Paul Giamatti dressed like little Bo Peep at the red carpet.
People will get scared or sad.
Right, right.
The same women who get all excited about me gender betting will just feel a sense of anger and betrayal.
Okay.
So if you ever get in trouble for shit you say, well, I heard that might happen.
Just keep this ace in your back.
You're handsome enough to pull it off.
And you don't actually have a feminine vibe about you.
Thank you, Brad Pitt.
Just do stand-up, just do a stand-up setting of skirt.
Something age-appropriate and tasteful.
Don't even address it.
Like, why would I address it?
Men wear skirts all the time.
I'm not making a statement of any kind.
What kind of statement would this even be?
Anyway, Joe Biden sucks or whatever you do.
What?
What was that last slide?
Anyway, Joe Biden sucks or whatever you do.
Okay, all right.
I haven't seen your shit.
Okay, I got you.
All right.
And boom.
You can't be in trouble.
You can't be a bad man.
You got a skirt on.
He's one of the good ones.
Wow.
It's like this is some kind of miracle cure, isn't it?
You better believe it.
We thought the man bun was bold, but dude started going full-on skirt.
We were like, damn, this is genius.
You should see him go on.
They'll go crazy on social media, too.
They'll be like, Jimmy Dore is like the only good man.
Fucking suckers.
Well, I appreciate you calling in to clear this up, Brad Pitt.
No problem, Radio Man.
Just wanted to let you know that this is an option for you, too, if you ever get in trouble.
And I have no problem letting other people they want, but just wanted you personally to understand it.
You know.
Yeah, I get it.
Yeah, I'm not.
I know.
No, I know.
I know.
It's all about the V and only the V. Right, right.
Okay, no need to even say it.
Brad Pitt, everybody.
Radio Man!
Establishment media sucks.
All gaslighting, so good luck.
Bullshit we can't afford.
He's fomenting this.
Watch and see as he's jacked off the medium speeds and jumps the medium and hits them head on.
It's the chimney tour show.
Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate.
You know, Max Blumenthal is the founder of the Grey Zone.
And Aaron Matte is the award-winning New York-based Canadian journalist who hosts a show for Grey Zone called Pushback.
They're both here with us today.
Welcome.
Good to see you, Jimmy.
Okay, well, the reason why I have you on is because you guys made a big splash.
You went to this thing.
It's called the Collision Tech Conference.
And it's the Olympic of tech, says Politico, the Olympics of tech.
And then they have these two people I never saw.
And you could even partner with them if you want to.
But so tell me what happens at a tech festival, collision tech fests.
That's why I went there.
I don't know if Aaron has a better answer than me, but we got there.
And first of all, everyone has lanyards.
It's a big Lanyard Fest.
Giant amphitheater in Toronto.
And basically, the tech industry gets together and pats itself on the back and networks.
It's a real like networking festival for people in tech.
I saw Eric Schmidt, one of the founders of Google Alphabet, who partners.
Yeah, he partners with the Pentagon closely.
He's urging the working with the Pentagon and building an AI weapon against China.
He's a mentee.
He's a mentee of Henry Kissinger, and he was sort of on stage to debunk the notion that AI can become sentient or that it has a spirit because one of Alphabet or Google's designers, web designers, actually came out and claimed that AI was developing sentience.
And at the same time, Schmidt was promoting a future in which we will all have an artificial intelligence twin that will guide us through our lives, that adapts to our own behavior and helps us become our best selves.
But he guaranteed that the twin would not become, in his words, emergent.
And emergent is basically what happens when you watch the opening scene of Terminator 2, where Skynet is actually fighting the humans.
That's what happens when the humans design a machine that overtakes it and becomes more intelligent than humans and then begins to dominate it.
And we live under an AI dictatorship.
And Schmidt was politely applauded.
And right before Eric Schmidt, Carmelo Anthony was on stage.
The basketball player?
New York Knicks.
Yeah, yeah, the longtime ballhog for the New York Knicks, who was he was on stage with some other designer and they're designing a virtual Carmelo Anthony and touting it in front of like 2,000 people.
And basically you get to hang out with Carmelo Anthony in your living room or wherever through your Oculus or meta lenses.
And there may sometime in the future be a three-dimensional hologram version of Carmelo Anthony that you can kick it with.
And Carmelo Anthony's lone message was that we just need to get out of the way because we don't know where this can go.
The sky's the limit, but humans need to stand up, get out of the way of tech and just let it happen.
My favorite part was when the interviewer says to Carmelo, Mello, would you say that you're tech forward?
Mello goes, yes, yes, I am tech forward.
And that was it.
What is that?
What is that?
I don't know.
I don't know what that means.
They always use that in cooking shows, like Guy Fiori will be like, this is a real garlic forward dish.
So, all right, well, I want a lot of phoniness, but it was the phoniness and all that kind of language was papering over the coming dystopia that we are supposed to accept and normalize.
And then, Jimmy, I think it's important to note that there was an entire media track for this conference where the mainstream media was just being celebrated for telling the truth and putting forward this brave reality against the insurrectionists and the disinformationists.
The day before us, they had the Obama Foundation attacking disinformation on stage.
They had the Institute for Strategy.
What is it?
ISG, Institute for Strategic Dialogue, which has attacked Aaron as the number one promoter of disinformation on Syria.
They were on stage.
They refused an interview request for us.
We asked them for an interview, but they didn't respond to us.
They had Betsy Reed, then the editor-in-chief of The Intercept.
She's since been promoted to edit The Guardian America.
No.
She was on a panel about disinformation.
And this is the person who buried Glenn Greenwald's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop, refused to publish it.
So, I mean, it kind of provided a lot of momentum for us and our panel to slam the corporate media as the leading disseminator of disinformation on the planet.
And let me just show a quick video of you talking about this very thing at this summit.
So let's play it.
It's about a minute long.
First of all, let me ask the editor-in-chief here next to me, Max, what was the motivation to set Grey Zone up about eight years ago now?
Well, in short, there was nowhere else I could do the reporting that we do because by the time I set it up as a fully independent entity in 2018, the mainstream press in the U.S. had been fully consolidated as essentially an arm of the intelligence services, the national security state.
And what we aim to do, which is what journalists like Cy Hirsch, our friend, traditionally did, is to expose the deceptions that are taking us into these disastrous wars, which are now wrecking our economy and possibly imperiling all your startups.
It's something that the mainstream media now, echoing Joe Biden, as his little band of stenographers, is calling the Putin price hike.
And for doing the kind of reporting we do, no one debates us.
They don't challenge us on the facts.
What they do, and Aaron's going to address this, is they try to deplatform us.
They try to censor us and they claim that me and Putin made a deal to set up the gray zone.
They also say, you know, I mean, this is the mainstream press, the one that's freaking out about disinformation.
You've had a lot of panels here on disinformation.
They also said that Putin paid bounties to the Taliban to kill U.S. troops.
The New York Times reported that, as if the Taliban needed extra incentive to get rid of occupiers that had been there for 20 years.
They said that Putin fabricated the existence of Hunter Biden's laptop, as if the Biden family couldn't be completely corrupt with business deals in China and Ukraine.
Kamala Harris, the VP, said that Putin helped launch the anti-racism protests of Colin Kaepernick, while CNN reported that Putin is spreading racism in the United States.
Putin is being blamed now by a member of parliament in the UK named Tobias Elwood for the British rail strikes.
So, what's going on here?
Why is Putin being blamed for everything?
It's because the role of the mainstream press, which is spreading all these lies, which is the most prolific disseminator of disinformation on the planet, is seeking to distract us from what our predator class at home is actually doing to us to divide us and destroy our economic livelihoods.
And so we exist.
These are quite hard lines.
These are quite hard lines.
Yes, I would agree.
Those were quite hard lines.
Now, when you were saying that stuff, there were people in the mainstream press sitting in the audience listening, correct?
Yeah, and I figure we'll probably show some of Aaron bringing up Assange in front of corporate stenographers.
But yeah, I mean, the front rows were filled with people from Reuters, CBS, ABC.
We had come on right after a panel featuring just one person who was, I think, the executive producer at ABC.
And all she was talking about, what the panel was about, was what ABC was doing to maximize the impact of the January 6th committee hearings and make sure that millions of Americans saw them.
So Ann Curry was there also.
She had a panel about truth in the age of disinformation.
And the reactions in the green room afterwards were, it just felt tense.
I mean, because you had the next wave of reporters going on stage and they were just glowering at us.
But I actually saw some of them like really, really getting visibly upset in the front row.
What Max was just saying there, like the clip you just played, that's Max's opening statement.
Those are his opening words.
He's just coming out the gate, just viciously attacking the people that are right there.
And you can tell they were not impressed.
They were not happy with what he was saying.
It was great.
It was great to see.
I wish I was there.
So here's you were asked about the future of journalism.
Here's what you said.
Thank you, Aaron.
What is the future for fact-based reporting?
Do you think we will have more political interference, less freedom of speech?
What do you tell, especially the next generation of journalists, if there still are?
Well, on the future, I mean, I think so much rides on the case of Julian Assange.
If the U.S. succeeds in extraditing him and imprisoning him and killing him, as I think they want to do, I think that's the end of fact-based journalism.
Because, look, the case they're bringing against him is based on the Espionage Act.
They're essentially criminalizing him for publishing factual information.
So if the case against Assange prevails, then journalism loses, I think, for good.
And it's losing right now already with as Max talked about, the absence of outcry from people in the media who should be leading the charge to save Julian Assange's life.
And your second question is.
So, yeah, you don't hear mainstream news journalists talk about Julian Assange much.
Were you the only one who brought it up?
Oh, absolutely.
And what's crazy about that is, you know, we don't even talk about Julian Assange enough because we're so busy covering all these other things, right?
But if we don't even talk about it enough, imagine how bad it is for the corporate media, which never talks about Julian Assange, except when they can't help but talk about it because some major thing happens.
But otherwise, they're silent or they're even supportive of what is being done to him because they view him with contempt.
He represents everything that they don't, which is actually exposing crimes, not being a stenographer for power and being someone who whitewashes those crimes.
So they have contempt for Julian.
And, you know, Betsy Reid of the Intercept was there, and I was thinking the Intercept is one of these outlets that is supposed to be this leading adversarial outlet.
Well, on Julian Assange, they've attacked him many times.
And when he was going through one of his really important hearings, they just ignored the story completely, refused to cover it.
So we don't cover it enough.
We do what we can, but we should be talking about it every single day because it's just what he's done will decide the future of the media.
It's just as simple as that.
And so, like, what I've experienced something like what you've experienced at that fest, what I don't know, festival tech conference when I went to the Oslo Freedom Forum and there was a room full of journalists, and I was the only one challenging that pretend sham of a freedom forum.
What it is, is a, it's a, what they do is they use the idea of they're going to help oppressed people in countries who are being oppressed by the government.
What they're really doing is they're targeting countries that the United States and the West wants to overthrow so we could steal their natural resources.
And they do it under the guise of bringing freedom and protecting people from government oppression.
It's all fake because they don't have any problem with the United States and their imperialism.
And they all was all anyway.
So I've been there and it was the weirdest feeling to have a room full of journalists going along with the liars and the murderers and turning on someone like me who was asking a question of the powerful.
How did it feel to you to be doing pretty much the same thing?
Well, interestingly, Jimmy, I should mention that, and I'll hand off to Aaron real quickly, but I just think I should interject that Gary Kasparov, the executive director of the Oslo Freedom Forum, which is run by this guy, Thor Halverson, this kind of neocon operative, but Kasparov is the face, you know, the former chess master.
He's obsessively anti-Putin.
He was actually there at this conference.
No.
And they were, yeah, and they did a QA with him, like QA with the master.
And then he did a whole section on Ukraine.
So this was their expert voice on Ukraine.
Gary Kasparov has called in the past for the United States to drop a nuclear weapon on Iraq.
And he also, more recently, I think in 2015, paid $500,000, was fined $500,000 by the International Chess Federation for attempting to bribe its jury to make him the president.
So he is a corrupt psychopath who wants to kill, wanted to kill millions of Iraqis.
And he is presented as a human rights hero and an expert on Ukraine at this conference.
Yeah.
Jimmy, weren't you kicked out of the Oslo Freedom Forum?
Yeah, so TYT had gone there before and they reported on them glowingly.
Look, what a great festival this.
They're all about freedom because the young Turks are bought and paid for by the military industrial complex and they wouldn't know a real story if it fucking bit them in their Democratic donor-filled ass.
But I was.
Jeffrey Katzenberg was at the conference, Jimmy, talking about funding disruptors.
He did a panel in the main stage.
Yes.
The young Turks are not disruptors.
They're ruptors.
And we'll add the diss to that.
But anyway, that's what a lot of these things turn out to be.
They're just big PR fronts for the hegemony, imperialism, military industrial complex, and for global neoliberalism.
And that's what it feels like.
So what did it feel to you walking for me to walk around those people?
I felt weird, like weird in the worst way possible.
Like, I'd never had that experience before, where journalists would try.
It made me feel sad for humanity.
What did it make you feel?
Well, Jimmy, first of all, the fact that we were invited shows something.
It shows that there are pockets for dissent and at least pockets for being willing and interested in airing dissenting points of views that we represent.
I mean, if you want the Grey Zone to come to your conference, you know what we're going to say.
So the fact that there's the interest in having us speak, as opposed to people who try very hard to pretend that we don't exist because they can't counter the facts that we're bringing out and the reporting that we do.
So that was encouraging for me to at least be invited.
But yeah, of course, when you're around these people who you have nothing but professional contempt for, it's awkward.
And I saw some people who I very openly criticized.
And it's a bit awkward to see them face to face, but you know, whatever.
It's just we represent two different things and they make their choices to go their way and we go ours and we face the consequences of getting slandered and smeared.
But we also get to meet people everywhere.
We go to your shows and we do our own events.
Even at this conference, people coming up to us being very grateful for what we do.
And there was a lot of that after our event.
People came up to us and were very appreciative.
So it's not all scumbags.
Yeah, I mean, it was an industry conference.
And so you do have a lot of people who come from countries that have suffered under U.S. imperialism.
And those tended to be the people who, like I said during our panel, unfortunately, we can't do a QA.
It was only 20 minutes, but I'll stand in the hallway and engage everyone who wants to talk to me.
And the people who wanted to talk to me were mostly immigrants from Muslim countries or Latin America who are in the tech industry who supported what we were doing.
No one else wanted to talk to us among the corporate media or the haters.
And as Aaron's pointed out, there was an effort to prevent us from even being able to speak there once he announced our participation.
Who did you know who spearheaded that effort to stop you from speaking?
The usual Twitter trolls who no one really cares about, but who hate the fact that starting with when Max started reporting on the white helmets and exposing the Syria Dirty Ward, they've been on the campaign to cancel the Grey Zone ever since.
So these people who don't really have any influence, don't produce any work, but are very loud, tried to get us canceled, but they failed because that's what they do.
They just fail.
But I just think if you look at this conference and the media track, you will get a good sense of where media is going if it is controlled entirely by tech-centric billionaires like Bill Gates and Piero Mediar, who are funding many of the outlets that were on stage there.
Eric Schmidt as well, he funds media and he even funds like ostensibly left-wing figures because he's obsessed with kind of like green energy and green solutions.
And they had no interest in issues of war and peace.
They had no interest in the controlled demolition of our economy by elites who actually benefited from it because, hey, who are those elites?
People like Bill Gates, whose fortune increased by 35% during the pandemic.
All the tech, all the feudal tech lords saw their fortunes increase massively during this pandemic because everyone is forced to stay at home and buy their products.
And Bill Gates invested in the mRNA technology, et cetera.
So the media is not going to bite the hand that feeds it, as I pointed out.
What they wanted to talk about was what the little people are doing and the threat of the populace, the demos, and specifically the threat of those who are targeted by disinformation.
And the way that the modern tech-backed corresponding tech oligarch-backed correspondent sees themselves in this environment is as the savior of the cognition and minds of the public from what they consider to be disinformation, which is actually any information that they find inconvenient or which interferes with elite objectives.
So, I mean, for me personally, I just wanted to interrupt that narrative and do a little bit of what people like Cy Hirsch, who's one of our guides and mentors, did throughout his career, which is punching up.
All these people do is punch down.
Yes, I hear you.
You mean punch down at places like you, people with places like us or at parts of the population that they fear who have no resources to actually punch back.
Well, it was exhilarating.
You had about an 18-minute talk on stage with that host, and I watched the whole thing.
It's really fun to watch.
If you like this show, you'll like that video.
So everybody should go watch that.
It was fun to hear them say that stuff, knowing that there were corporate-funded douchebags sitting all over the place having to hear that.
And I was surprised.
Who was that host?
Well, the first host refused to Martina Fuchs, and she is at Xinhua, which is a Chinese-backed wire service that is very considered, was considered very mainstream until all the Cold War stuff started happening.
But she, I think, lives in Switzerland or is Swiss.
Okay.
And she agreed to do the panel with us because the other person who was asked to be our interlocutor refused out of disrespect for us.
Who is that person?
Well, the claim was there was a scheduling conflict.
And I personally would not be surprised if he just bowed out because some Twitter trolls pressured him or something, or he looked us up and saw who we are.
But yeah, so Martina came in and look, people were critical of her for asking us critical questions, but I think that's fine.
We can handle critical questions.
We can handle it.
We can speak for ourselves and we can hold our own.
So she was just doing her job.
And look, say it again.
Who was it?
Oh, the original guy.
I forgot.
You don't have to say.
I guess you don't have to.
I forgot his name.
Honestly, Jimmy, aside from a few prominent people, I hadn't heard of many of the people that were there, but they were running major media organizations.
I mean, these are outlets, you know, like ProPublica or The Intercept, or nobody reads them.
Like, they get pretty low hit counts considering how big their staff is and how much money they get.
It is amazing how few people read The Intercept.
That is certainly more people watch this show.
One of the few panels I got to go to, the media panels, because we were there for a short time, featured ProPublica and the head of Yahoo News.
And the head of ProPublica, this is sort of like an investigative news set, gets a ton of money from Bill Gates, all the usual suspects.
And he actually said, we got it wrong on Russia.
No.
All this hysteria about Russian interference, I think we totally got it wrong.
And it was really unfortunate that we buried Hunter Biden's laptop during the election.
But when has ProPublica come in and used its credibility to actually push back or say that we got it wrong?
Nowhere.
It's just, it happens in these little industry events that are kind of like invite only or you have to pay 250 bucks.
That to me is a form of corruption.
Yeah, obviously.
Yes.
But it's, yeah, it's fun.
I didn't know ProPublica was funded by Bill Gates.
It seems like everybody's funded by Bill Gates, who is they try to downplay that he's the number one private owner of farmland in America like it's not a big deal.
Like that's normal.
And then we see what's happening to the farmer, the Dutch farmers.
They're literally trying to bankrupt them so they can steal their, we're getting off track.
But anyway, well, great job.
Do you want to stick around and talk about that Guardian store?
Do you have to go?
I got it.
It's okay if you have to go.
I might have to leave Aaron here.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I want to.
Max, it was a great thing.
Draft Simon, draft Simon Tisdale.
Draft the whole Guardian.
All right.
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So we got a crazy article in the Guardian, and the title is Putin is already at war with Europe.
There is only one way to stop him.
No kidding.
This is in a mainstream newspaper, and it's written by this guy, Simon Tisdall.
He is a foreign affairs commentator.
He has been foreign lead writer, foreign editor, and U.S. editor for The Guardian.
So now you're going to know why the West has been setting the world on fire if people like those are the ones who are supposed to be reporting on foreign wars and stuff.
So here, let's get through this real fast and then Aaron will comment on it.
Like shockwaves from an exploding missile, Vladimir Putin's war on Europe's edge is rapidly rolling westwards, blasting its way through the front doors of homes, businesses, and workplaces from Berlin to Birmingham.
Its fallout seeds, a toxic reign of instability, hardship, and fear.
Now, Aaron, let me just bring you in on this first paragraph.
He's acting like Vladimir Putin is doing what the Nazis did in World War II, and they're trying to roll over Europe and take it over.
And that's what he's trying to do, right?
And he's writing it with what he thinks.
It's such beautiful prose.
Yes.
Yes, he is.
You know what he wrote that he's like, this is good stuff.
I'm nailing it.
This is real penmanship.
Yeah, of course.
That's exactly what he's doing.
He's trying to set up the scene of Vladimir Putin being akin to Hitler.
You're exactly right.
And he's lucky that no one really knows the history of Ukraine and the fact that that is not what Putin is doing.
And that the country of Ukraine's government has been actually shelling and killing people in their eastern part of their own country for the last eight years against a peace agreement.
And so he's just banking on the fact that no one knows this information and that Putin has no plans to go farther.
And no one thinks he does except people like this.
Okay.
The idea the Ukraine conflict could be confined to Ukraine, NATO's politically convenient grand delusion, and that Western sanctions and arms supplies would stop the Russians was always a nonsense.
So he's going right.
He's just making things up.
The idea that Ukraine's conflict could be confined to Ukraine, it certainly has been and could be and will be, unless guys like this get his way.
Russians were always now enraged by Kiev's stubborn resistance and hell-bent on punishing his punishers, Putin's aim is the immiseration of Europe.
Now, immiseration just means he wants to make Europe miserable, their conditions of life to be miserable.
That's what Putin's aim is.
That is not what Putin's aim is.
Putin's, what would you say Putin's aim is if you had to take a guess, Aaron?
His aim is to stop Ukraine from becoming a NATO proxy on Russia's border, which has been the U.S. official U.S. policy since 2008 when they enshrined it in the Bucharest Declaration and accelerated in 2014 with the U.S.-backed coup.
It's also to put an end to the war in the Donbass, which the U.S. refused to end.
There was an agreement, as you alluded to, 2015, the Minsk Accords, to end the war between people who rose up against the U.S.-backed coup government in 2014 and the coup government.
That was the terms of the agreement.
The U.S. and Kiev refused to implement it.
The president who signed Minsk, the Minsk Accords, what they're called, Poroshenko, recently admitted that they were using the Minsk Accords to delay the war and build up their armed forces.
So they never had any intention of actually reaching peace.
So this is Putin's way of responding after all efforts to stop the war and stop Ukraine's integration into NATO didn't succeed.
Russia tried to resolve this diplomatically for a long time.
The U.S. wasn't interested in it.
And now he goes on in this article to blame Russia and Putin for the effects of the sanctions that the West has put on Russia.
Watch this.
This is interesting.
A long, cold, calamity-filled European winner.
But this guy is something.
This is such fucking high school sophomore English-lit writing.
This is such garbage.
A long, cold, calamity-filled European winner of power shortages and turmoil looms.
Yeah, you know why?
Because the West is freaking doing sanctions and they did a coup and they wouldn't stop bombing it.
This has been provoked by the West and NATO, and NATO wouldn't stop trying to publicly look like they were trying to annex Ukraine into NATO.
And like a coin-fed gas meter, the price of Western leaders' timidity and short-sightedness ticks upwards by the hour.
This guy is such a shitty writer.
Russia's destabilization operations, social media manipulation, cyber attacks, diplomatic double jock, nuclear blackmail, plus its unrelenting slaughter of civilians in Ukraine will only intensify Europe's state of siege in the months ahead.
Boy, that is like, he should get an award for the most propagandic single paragraph during the war.
I think he would win.
The West fanciful belief, that's my favorite cat food.
The West fanciful belief it could avoid continent-wide escalation is evaporating fast.
Aaron, that's not true at all, is it?
You think this is going to be a continent-wide?
First of all, could you talk about how he's blaming Russia for the sanctions that the West has put on Russia?
Go ahead.
Yeah, Jamie, look, if Putin's goal was to imiscerate Europe, as this guy says, then why was Putin building a $11 billion Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which would bring energy even faster to Germany and thus the rest of Europe?
That was the whole thing.
That was the whole project that Russia was really excited about.
Guess who stopped that?
It was the U.S., both Trump, both Obama, Trump, and then Biden tried to stop this pipeline.
And Biden succeeded when he finally provoked Russia into invading.
So it's been the U.S. goal to try to cut Russia off from the rest of Europe because they didn't want to see Russia integrated with the rest of Europe by giving it energy.
And they're willing to sacrifice Europeans, not just Ukrainians, but Europeans as well, forcing them to ration gas.
That's the result now of both succeeding in canceling the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline and then imposing these sanctions on Russia that make it harder for Russian energy to get to the rest of Europe.
And what's amazing is even after this crisis began or escalated with Russia's invasion, even after all these sanctions were imposed on Russia and Europe and the U.S. were sending advanced weaponry to Ukraine that is killing Russians.
Russia's still been supplying energy to the rest of Europe.
I know.
So if their goal really was to initiate Europe, then why are they still giving them energy?
They could cut it off, but they haven't because they don't want to see an endless war.
They just want to see their security interests as they apply to Ukraine resolved, which the U.S. has refused to do.
So that's why when he talks about the West timidity, if the West means the leaders of the West, which is the U.S. and its junior partner, the U.K., they've been trying all they can do for the last eight years to have continent-wide escalation, and they've gotten it.
He goes on.
Though not entirely due to Putin's war, Europe now faces fundamental challenges as bigger, bigger than the 2008 financial crash, Brexit, or the pandemic.
Yet many EU and UK politicians skulk in denial.
If, as predicted, the gas stops flowing and the lights dim, it will not just be a matter of closed factories, lost jobs, and depressed markets, freezing pensioners, hungry children, empty supermarket shelves, unaffordable cost of living increases, devalued wages strikes and street protests point to the Sri Lanka-style meltdowns.
All because we are trying to provoke Russia into doing what they did, and now we've put sanctions on them.
This is all the doing of NATO and the West.
100%.
Russia wants to light all those lights.
It wants to illuminate all those lights and power all those factories.
It has a, just as Aaron said, it built a pipeline directly to Germany.
Now, it currently provides 40% of the energy to Western Europe.
So this is all made up.
And this is in The Guardian.
And these are the people who call the gray zone disinformers.
And the people like Jimmy Dore, they call us spreaders of disinformation.
This is the biggest garbage you've ever seen in the world.
And it's, of course, written right by their chief lead foreign correspondent.
And it's in a military industrial complex supported newspaper.
Despite bilateral cooperation pledges, a total Russian cutoff could pit country against country, further inflate prices, and split the anti-Moscow coalition.
In such a scenario, Putin would demand sanctions relief in return for resumed supplies.
That sounds reasonable.
Putin, if that happened, Putin would then demand something reasonable.
So you guys are sanctioning the shit out of him, and he's saying that Putin might cut off his gas supplies.
You guys are the ones doing it.
And that he's going to ask for an end to sanctions if he cuts off his gas supplies.
Just as he has over-blockaded the Black Sea great.
So the reason why grain can't get out of the sea, out of the Ukraine port, is because Ukraine mined their goddamn port, and nobody wants to go in and out of it because nobody knows where those mines are.
That's one reason.
Yeah.
Now, Ukraine also says that if they demine their ports, then that could invite further Russia attacks.
That's their stated reason for not doing it.
But there has been recently an agreement reached broker by Turkey that hopefully will resolve that.
But look, Jimmy, regardless, I wish Russia hadn't invaded.
I wish they could have found a different way to resolve their grievances.
And I like to believe that they could have had.
And, you know, that invasion was not their only option.
But look, we live in the real world where they did.
And the fact is, if people like Simon Tisdal and others don't like the fact that Russia invaded, they could have avoided that simply by having Ukraine simply declare neutrality before the war and implement the peace accords in the Donbass, the Minsk Accords that they refused to implement.
That would have done it.
Instead, now, people like Simon Tisdale want to risk World War III and further imiscerate their own population in Europe just to deny Russia a victory inside Ukraine, which means accepting that Russia controls Crimea.
It's not going back.
And accepting now that the Donbass republics, which could have stayed a part of Ukraine if Ukraine had been willing to accept the Minsk Accords and not use the time to prepare for war, accepting that those republics are probably going to be either independent or a part of Russia now.
That's just what it is.
And then also accepting neutrality, which is the only sane response or solution anyway, because what good is it for anybody's security to have a NATO proxy that is deeply divided with a bunch of Russian speakers right on Russia's border?
It's insanity.
And that's the policy that these people support.
So here, just he, this is, it gets worse.
He says it is President Joe Biden's too cautious leadership of NATO that has led Europe into this geopolitical cul-de-sac, even as a weakening Euro slides below $1.
So he's saying he wants Joe Biden and the West to ramp it up.
The sanctions, economic aid, and other non-military measures preferred by Biden were never going to be enough to bring Putin to heel.
Some observers suspect a stalemate that slowly bleeds Russia suits U.S. purposes, whatever, the collateral damage.
Yes, right now, in Putin, it's Putin who is bleeding Europe.
Sanctions are backfiring or poorly enforced.
So he's speaking out of both of his sides of his mouth in his own fucking article.
He's even saying that the sanctions are the things that's causing this and they have backfired.
And now that Europe and the West are feeling the pain of their own sanctions because they've bought, they have backfired.
Yeah.
Russia's making more money than they were before.
Yeah, that's right.
And the ruble is stronger than it was before the real war.
That's right.
That's right.
So, and Ukrainians aside, the pain is disproportionately felt by less wealthy European and built.
This is all you're doing in the UK and inside NATO and the United States.
This is amazing.
I haven't seen an article this bad since Luke Harding did the thing about Paul Manafort meeting Julian Assange inside the most surveilled building in the world, and they couldn't find a picture of him.
That was amazing, but the young Turks reported it breathlessly and uncritically.
Go ahead.
Let me say, I have a new article up on my sub stack, and it's called that in Ukraine, there's a proxy war on the planet.
So the U.S. is not only sacrificing Ukrainians for its hegemonic goals against Russia, it's sacrificing the rest of the planet.
So when he talks about how, yes, this crisis is hurting the less wealthy in impoverished countries.
That's a deliberate result of U.S. sanctions, U.S. policy, that are cutting off Russian exports to those countries, including grain and fertilizer.
And the African Union, the head of the African Union, Mickey Saul, said that U.S. sanctions are making it a lot harder to feed our people.
And the New York Times recently had an article where they said that African countries are facing what the Times called a dilemma.
On the one hand, you have the prospect of hundreds of thousands of starving people in Africa.
But if you feed them, the Times says, you risk, quote, displeasing a powerful Western ally.
Okay?
Unquote.
So Africa has to choose between displeasing a powerful Western ally in Washington or feeding starving people.
That's where we're at.
That's the choice that has been pushed onto the world by the U.S. proxy war policy.
And then he admits that he knows how this is going to end.
Just as we've said since this war started, we all know how this war is going to end.
It's going to end however Putin wants.
And with Ukraine remaining neutral and out on neutral and out of NATO.
And so here, listen to what he says here.
He says the obvious escape route is a land for peace deal with Putin, which is what we said is going to happen since this thing started.
Agreed over Ukraine's dead bodies.
That was Ukraine's choice to do to fight this.
They didn't have to.
This guy of shoddy sellout has influential advocates.
I don't even care about the rest of that.
Yes, such a deal would also be a precedent-setting disaster.
So ending this war would be a disaster, according to this knucklehead from The Guardian, for future peace and security across the continent and globally too.
Just think Taiwan or Estonia.
It would destroy the sovereign integrity of democratic Ukraine.
I just destroyed the sovereign integrity of Democratic Ukraine was in 2014.
That's right.
When the U.S. backed the overthrow of the democratically elected president Yanukovych and used far-right fascists as the muscle for that coup and helped install people in the government that the U.S. personally selected.
You've played the phone call many times of Victoria Newland, picking the new Ukrainian government, imposing them, imposing in power far-right fascists who cracked down on Russian speakers in the Donbass, oversaw massacres like the Odessa massacre, where dozens of Russian speakers were burned alive, setting off a proxy war in the Donbass.
That's what destroyed the sovereign integrity of Democratic Ukraine.
So these people don't care about Ukrainians.
That's right.
They don't care about Ukraine's democracy.
They care about using Ukraine as a proxy to weaken Russia.
And they're getting the result.
Russia's finally fighting back in a really catastrophic way.
So his go ahead.
And of course.
Just also, and meanwhile, the U.S. is occupying one-third of Syria.
Syria.
Doing exactly what Russia is accused of doing in Ukraine, which is stealing its grain and its wheat.
And it's even, you know, in Syria, it's even more egregious because there's been a 10-year war that's left large parts of the country in ruins.
And the U.S. stealing more of Syria's resources have made it very hard for Syria to feed itself.
People don't care about the sovereign integrity of Syria.
They want to destroy the sovereign integrity of Syria, just like they want to destroy the sovereign integrity of Ukraine and anywhere else that can be used as a tool for U.S. hegemony.
So here's his big idea.
Here's his big plan that we should be implementing in Ukraine.
Ready?
Fortunately, there is an alternative.
The alternative from the Ukraine giving land to Russia, the eastern part, the Donbass, which has seceded from the country since they overthrew their government in a right-wing coup.
Fortunately, there is an alternative, using NATO's overwhelming power to decisively turn the military tide.
What he's saying is, don't let Ukraine's military fight Russia.
Let's let NATO and the United States and the UK go into Ukraine and start a war with Russia.
Now, I don't know if you guys know what that's called.
That's called World War III.
That's what he's advocating for in the papers of the Guardian.
I can't advocate for killing one person and they'll take down my channel.
He's advocating in a corporate-funded newspaper for starting World War III that would kill everybody.
As previously argued here, this is him.
He says direct targeted, forceful Western action to repulse Russia's repulsive horde is not a vote for a third world war.
And it's not a vote for a third world war just because he says it.
That doesn't make it so.
He's just saying that.
But if we did do this, it would be a vote for World War III and it would be World War III.
So the fact that he just says that it's not is just him bullshitting more because this guy is a pathological maniac who spews propaganda like nothing I've ever seen.
So it's he says this, so starting World War III is the only feasible way to bring this escalating horror to a swift conclusion while ensuring Putin and those who might emulate him do not profit from lawless butchery.
We're occupying a third of a country right next door called Syria.
And which third of that country do you think we're occupying?
The oil fields.
We're committing a genocide in Yemen.
We're trying to overthrow a government in Ethiopia, right?
We're doing it all over Somalia.
We're still doing it.
We're starving the people in Afghanistan that we just occupied for 20 years.
This is all garbage.
This is Western hegemony imperialism.
That's all you get from the Guardian.
And that's exactly what this is.
And they get paid handsomely to do it, just like they get paid handsomely at the intercept to do nothing.
Go ahead, Aaron.
You want to comment on this?
I think you said it all, JP.
Okay, so it goes on.
It gets even worse.
But I just want to remind everybody that's what this is.
Putin is already at war with Europe.
There is only one way to stop him.
This guy's name is Simon Tisdall, and he should be in a white jacket and taken away from publishing for the rest of his life.
But he'll be given a raise because he's advocating for the slaughter of humanity, which is profitable.
That's what's exactly happening.
And some people called it out.
LOL, he's weaponizing the results of our own sanctions.
How dare he?
They're talking about Putin.
Oh, he's weaponizing the results of our own sanctions against him.
Here's what Caitlin Johnstone says.
She says, The Guardian, Simon Tisdall, defends his vote for a third world war by saying that it's not a vote for the Third World War.
So-called journalist Simon Tisdahl at The Guardian exists to make war for the UK regime.
These journalists should be held accountable for prevention of peaceful resolution and deaths in Syria and of Ukraine citizens who disappeared through thick narratives.
They are the weapons of mass destruction.
He means he's talking about those journalists are weapons of mass destruction.
Oh, here's Aaron Mate.
He says, I nominate Simon Tisdahl and the entire Guardian editorial team for the front lines of the World War III they're advocating for.
So, you know, the people who write that stuff and advocate for this kind of intervention are never going to be the people on the front lines.
And that's the point Aaron was making.
Well said.
And Jimmy, also, I mean, they've established that they're terrible journalists.
They're bad at their job.
So why not try out something else?
Try out something like fighting in the front lines of the World War III.
You're filling for every single day.
Why not?
Maybe they'll be good at that.
Maybe they'll be a good soldier, good mercenary, and they get paid.
So, all right.
Well, thanks for helping break this down.
Everybody should check out Aaron Mate's recent article at his substack at mate.substack.com about the Ukraine fiasco, and you'll get the real dope, the straight dope about what's happening there, not stuff like that.
Holy cow.
That was, I got to go throw up.
I have to go, I have to go cleanse myself or take something that gives you, you know, I can't.
That was unbelievable.
That was real.
That was worse than Luke Harding.
Would you agree?
Or it's knuck and neck.
Yeah, I know.
That's worse than Luke Harding because Luke Harding's job is to agitate for World War III, but I don't see him directly calling for it.
Simon Tisdow's coming out with it.
And it's so sad.
The Guardian was once a serious newspaper.
It really was.
And they've kicked out anyone who could think critically and independently.
And now this is what they produce.
So I'm honored that I was recently attacked by them over my work on Syria because what better honor is it than to be attacked by people who want to have World War III and are threatened by those like us who don't.
Yeah, if they liked you, that's when you know you're doing something wrong.
When the Guardian's patting you on the back, you're like, uh-oh, I'm doing it wrong.
Okay.
All right, everybody, check out Aaron Mate.
Thank you so much for spending time with us.
We'll see you next time.
*Phone rings* Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Jimmy's President Joe Biden.
Oh, Mr. President.
Looks like you and your legislative agenda are faced with a bit of a setback in the Senate, huh?
You can say that.
And once again, it is Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia who has thwarted your attempts to do literally anything about climate change.
That's about the long and short of it, I suppose.
That old rascal.
What's it like to be the president of the United States and be completely at the mercy of one man, one senator from a sparsely populated state?
Okay, come on, man.
Why are you doing this?
Be cool.
I thought you were cool, man.
A senator who represents a coal state and has a massive personal fortune as a result of the coal industry.
Okay, hold on.
Hold on just a damn minute.
What?
Senator Manchin and I may not see eye to eye, but I will not question his motives.
His objections to this legislation and his words are based on concerns about inflation.
And I take him at his word that this is why not any meaningful attempt to curb greenhouse gas emissions would collapse his family fortunes.
The two are unconnected.
I see.
But I, of course, have to still pursue my agenda with or without him.
Which is why today I'm making a big announcement.
About what?
Wind.
Wind?
The power of the wind, the force of air, and the energy that can be derived from this great and natural blowing.
I see.
Jimmy, today I'll be making an important announcement in front of an old coal plant in Massachusetts that is now servicing wind power.
How symbolic.
And the announcement is that the Biden administration is opening new coastal areas for offshore wind farms.
How about that?
Neat, huh?
Is that it?
Yes.
My administration is committed to opening up the leasing of wind farms all along the coastline of this great country.
Think of it.
Caustic eyesores, as far as the eye can see, ruining the landscape in order to help climate change a little bit.
Just a teensy bit.
But every little bit counts.
No, it does not count, Mr. President.
Climate change requires bold action.
It requires regulating the fossil fuel industry.
Full stop.
Well, I tried that.
Mr. Manchin said no.
Well, there is also this option of, you know, executive action.
Many are saying you can and should declare a climate emergency.
That will give the federal government broad powers to address the crisis.
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Something we are considering.
But I won't be saying anything about this today.
That's a decision for a later time.
Why?
Why won't you do these things that you can do now?
Why do you keep stalling?
Well, it's complicated.
No, it's not.
Hold on.
I'm getting another call.
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey Jimmy, this is Joe May.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Oh, hi, Senator Manchin.
I'm doing great.
I'm so glad to hear that.
How's your mom and dad?
Well, you know, they're getting up in the age there.
Fantastic.
Hi there, Joey.
How you doing?
All right, Joe.
I'm doing great.
Good to hear from your old friend.
Yeah, Joey, we done talked about this in the past.
I'm sorry.
Senator Manchin.
Okay, good.
Now we can talk like big boys.
But you still get to call the president Joey?
Oh, Tornadi.
Me and Joey go way back.
Now, what is this foolishness out here about executive action on climate change?
Now, no, you ain't trying to circumvent me and my decision.
Declaring a state of climate emergency.
I'm looking at my back door and everything looks just bad to me.
jimmy was talking about that Yeah, I was actually.
Forgive me, but I find it unconscionable that you block every effort being made on climate change for such selfish and transparent reasons, Senator.
And now Hold your horses now.
I'm worried about inflation, just like most everyday Americans trying to buy gas and milk and pet food.
Bullshit.
You're personally owned by the coal industry in your state.
And I leave him alone.
He's a good man.
What?
He may push my agenda down the stairs, but I swear he doesn't mean to.
It is an action.
Actually, it's my fault.
The bill isn't good enough.
He's right to vote no.
Mr. President, for the love of God, grow a spine.
Now, now, now hold your horses now for real.
Don't you talk to Joey like that?
I may get a little rough with him, sure.
But that's because I'm the most powerful man in this country.
I can do it.
You can't talk to him like that, Joey.
Yeah.
You ain't gonna let this silly little man talk to you no more about climate change, are you?
We don't even know if that's real.
You and I talked about that.
No.
What are you gonna do?
Hang up.
Bye.
Okay, now you listen here, buddy.
What me and Joey got is something special.
You ain't gonna understand, and I don't expect you to do.
So just butt out.
Just don't go well, he and I have.
It concerns the whole planet.
Enough of that foolishness.
I'm the most powerful man in this country.
You know what I could do?
You know what I could do to your show?
You don't want to know.
But you just stop talking to him.
Quit interfering.
I'm tired of you meddling.
We don't answer to you.
He answers to me.
Get it?
Now he's going to be in a doghouse for a while.
You ain't going to hear from him.
He knows he messed up.
So if you've got questions about climate change or anything else, you contact my office.
Okay.
Thanks for calling and reminding us that democracy is indeed dead and gone in this country.
Always a pleasure talking to you, Jimmy.
You take care now.
Say hi to that sweet little wife and dog.
Bye.
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