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Feb. 25, 2022 - Jimmy Dore Show
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Hello, Jimmy.
It's Vince Vaughan.
Popularly known on the Jimmy Door show as Double V. Hey, Vince, how you doing, pal?
I'm doing great, Jimmy.
You know, I'm kind of well known for not being a big technology guy.
I don't have a smartphone.
I don't use emails.
Certainly no social media.
Absolutely not.
Right, I got it.
Recently, I decided to join the modern age, so I got a smartphone, but the only app that is on there is Truth Social.
Truth Social Is that Donald Trump?
That is Donald Trump's social media platform, right?
You're goddamn right, Jimmy.
And I'm not even a big Trump guy.
I know that you think I am, but I'm really not.
I'm just an independent thinker.
Are you, though?
Yes.
And thanks to Truth Social, I get to connect with other independent thinkers online.
I'm having the time of my life interacting with, exchanging ideas with, and just playing goofing around with other independent thinkers.
What are you guys doing out there?
Owning the libs, big time, hard, and it's fun.
Check this out.
I posted the word lip-tard, just that word, on my account.
John Voigt reposted it.
And then that Shapiro truthed his repost.
Truthed?
What does that mean?
Yeah, that's what it's called when someone approves of your post and deems it to be true.
It's like a like.
I got truth by Ben Shapiro, one of the smartest little short guys in the world.
That's very exciting, Vince.
You bet your ass it is.
And the beautiful part is that it's a no-censorship zone.
Jimmy, there is so much free speech going on up in this bitch, you wouldn't believe it.
Independent thinkers speeching freely.
It's a beautiful thing to behold.
Oh, except it has to be family-friendly, and you can't disparage Donald Trump or the other creators of the app.
What?
And you think that's free speech?
I actually agree with that policy, Jimmy.
And I'm not even a big Trump guy.
I'm not.
How can you possibly consider that free speech, Vince?
Because it's truth social.
You can't say untruths, like saying bad things about Trump, who personally I'm very ambivalent about, to be perfectly honest with you.
Who decides what truth is?
Everybody, collectively, together.
I don't understand.
That's how you ascertain what is real and factual?
Of course.
It's like how science works, kind of.
Consensus, baby.
Like owning the libs, that's the truth.
That's true.
But like being wrong about politics and the economy in a liberal way, untruth.
Boom.
Go over to Twitter, you godless scum.
I got it.
I see.
Okay.
And one thing I can absolutely guarantee you, absolutely and completely, is no one on there is posting their goddamn wordle scores.
Okay, that I can assure you.
We're not a bunch of nerds who need to brag about how smart we are.
We're independent thinkers.
What other interactions have you had?
Well, okay.
For example, the other day I posted, felt good to wake up today and not be a dumb liberal.
Hashtag dumb, hashtag liberal, hashtag don't say gay.
And Scott Bayo, you know, from Charles in Charge, responded, amen.
And then Kid Rock responded fucking A-right, but that got deleted and his account got frozen.
Seems like the no-swearing thing would be a bit confining.
Okay, yeah, normally I would hate that, but I'm finding ways to rationalize it because of all the independent thinking that's going on.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Okay.
Okay.
And I'm...
And I'm learning so much on there, too.
I feel like my brain is going to explode.
You can follow groups and think tanks as well as people like the Heritage Foundation and the Enterprise Institute, which are non-partisan smart guy organizations that post articles and memes that are really genius.
Talk to your shit.
Sounds really great, Vince.
Glad you're having fun.
Oh, my God.
Too much fun, Jimmy.
Hey, you should create an account.
I don't think I would.
I wouldn't last that long on there based on what you're saying, pal.
No, no, no, no.
Believe me.
You would be fine as long as you simply watch your fucking ass as far as what you post and participated in the free market of ideas that's controlled and dominated by the people who run the site that you aren't allowed to disparage.
laughter laughter I'm sorry.
Thanks, Vince, but I think I'm going to pass.
Okay, but oh, hey, I'm looking at it right now.
Cool.
Kirsty Alley just reposted a meme that I reposted of the final shot of Thelma Louise with Susan Sarandon, but Bernie Sanders is photoshopped over Gina Davis.
The car is going off the cliff and it says, let's go Brandon at the bottom.
Get it?
Let's go, Brandon.
That doesn't make any sense.
It's code.
Free thinking.
It doesn't make any sense, Vince.
Yeah, these guys are still trying to get a handle on memes.
I think we're just trying to be supportive.
Well, that's very nice of you.
Okay, well, think about joining and all of your listeners, too.
Think about Johnny too, but I have to go.
And before I do, I have to legally say that I, Vince Vaughn, I'm a paid spokesperson for Truth Social.
Okay, bye.
Wait, wait, what did you say?
I have to go?
That you're a paid spokesperson?
Legally, I only have to say it once.
Bye, fuck, face.
See your b*tch on the app.
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Watch and see as the jet go The medium speeds and jumps The medium and hits them head on It's the Chimmy Tor Show you you you So spoiler alert, Canada Justin Trudeau has revoked the Emergency Powers Act.
But I wanted to show you what it was because it should have never been invoked in the first place.
It was unconstitutional to the Canadian Constitution.
And it was approved by their legislature earlier this week, which made everything extra scary because the protest had broken up, but they were keeping the emergency powers.
It said Canada lawmakers vote to extend emergency powers targeting Freedom Convoy.
Legislator approves extraordinary powers to ban protests deemed unlawful for a 30-day period.
The Senate vote was pending.
So that was the House, their version of the House approved it, and they're waiting for their version of the Senate to approve it.
And let me just tell you what it was.
The order authorizes police to designate certain areas, including the streets around Ottawa's Parliament Hill, as no protest zones where people could be subject to arrest and to compel service providers like tow truck operators to remove vehicles from the scene because they were resisting.
They didn't want to tow the trucks.
The powers also took aim at protesters' financial assets and sources of cash.
So that's the big one.
That's the big one.
They weaponized your bank account.
They can shut it down.
Royal Canadian Mountain Police, Deputy Commissioner, Michael Duheme, said the emergency measures have choked off protesters' financial support.
He said financial institutions have frozen over 200 financial accounts belonging to individuals and an account held by a payment processor with a value of 3.8 million Canadian dollars or 15 bucks or the equivalent of $3 million.
Police have also ceased transactions involving 253 cryptocurrency addresses.
Police said Monday that the list they provided to financial institutions, which specified whose accounts should be frozen, covered individuals who were considered central organizers in the Ottawa blockade and owners or drivers of vehicles who didn't want to leave the area.
The powers granted to financial institutions to block accounts and financial dealings of people associated with the protests are too broad and could hurt unaffiliated people, said Kim Manchester, managing director of Manchester CF, a firm that provides training on handling financial crimes to public and private sector organizations.
It is unclear if people who have been unfairly blacklisted would have any recourse in court, he said.
Once you get on a blacklist, how do you get off?
So thank God civil liberties groups filed a court case against it.
The act requires the government to explain why precisely the existing tools available to law enforcement aren't sufficient.
He said in the prime minister's speech today, he did not mention even once why the existing laws were inadequate.
So even after the legislature had approved it, it hadn't been approved by the Senate yet, he has done this.
Immediate emergency situation is over, which it was.
Trudeau revokes Emergencies Act.
So the Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, says the government will take steps to end the use of Emergencies Act after it was invoked.
By the way, that's a big deal that they're taking away people's bank accounts and freezing people's assets.
Because if they could do that to those people, that means they're going to do it to you.
The next time you do anything they don't like, especially if you try to organize a protest.
You know how they all like to say, organize, organize.
Yeah, it's time for you guys to organize.
Remember when AOC says that?
Well, if you do that, they're going to deem you a terrorist now and they're going to block your bank account.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says the government will take steps to end the use of the Emergencies Act after it was invoked just over a week ago in response to the ongoing trucker propaganda.
The House of Commons passed a motion on Monday confirming the time-limited emergency powers, which including sweeping financial tools to cut the convoy's funding.
The Senate was still waiting.
Today, after careful consideration, we're ready to confirm that the situation is no longer an emergency.
Therefore, the federal government will be ending the use of the Emergency Act, said the Prime Minister.
Trudeau added, while the immediate emergency situation is over, the issue itself won't go away.
We need to constantly work to defend and improve our democracy at home.
And around the world, he said, with a straight face.
Justice Minister David LeMetti said any violations of the law that occurred during the 10 days the measures were in place will continue to be followed up on through the justice system.
So I saw this.
This is a substack by Tara Henley, and she interviewed a constitutional scholar named Ryan Elford.
And I just want to had some very interesting things to say.
In essence, what the government did when they instituted those Emergency Powers Act, it has done is falsely asserted the conditions exist that allow it to declare a state of emergency.
So he's asserting that there was, but we all knew there was no emergency.
And in making that false declaration, it has assumed powers to itself that it doesn't have under the Constitution of Canada.
And it has used that power to promulgate regulations that, because there's no jurisdictional basis, are of no force in effect.
And has used those regulations to infringe the charter rights of Canadians.
It's essentially a layer cake of constitutional violations.
And they went through this once before in the 70s.
It was called the October Crisis, was an example of the misuse of the War Measures Act.
So they redid it.
The Emergency Act was amended in response to that to prevent exactly what is occurring now from occurring.
So they thought they had rejiggered that law, the War Measures Act, so they couldn't pull shit that they actually did pull for the last 10 days.
But they did it anyway.
An emergency is something that occurs completely unexpectedly in such a way that the government can't use its normal powers to deal with the situation.
Do we really think that this protest movement is so powerful that injunctions and the criminal code and the use of force by the police, all of which occurred and needed no invocation of the Emergencies Act to be mobilized, aren't enough?
All those things, they're not enough.
You have to have something on top of that.
You need more extra power.
What powers is the government using other than those it already had?
And the answer, of course, is debanking.
So that's the big one.
And this professor goes on to say, for people now to say, we're so happy that the occupation is over when hundreds of barriers have been created with fencing throughout Central Town and you need to show your papers To police officers and indicate that you have an exceptional reason to be in there or be arrested.
That's shocking to me that people don't see that as an occupation.
So that's what was happening under the Emergency Powers Act.
You had to show your papers.
You couldn't go to certain parts of town.
If you did, you got arrested.
He says this constitutional lawyer in Canada says that the protests could continue or be revived.
So this is the, so this was the why they decided to keep the Emergency Act going, even though the truckers were gone.
They said that their thinking was that the protests could continue or they could be revived.
So now it's speculative.
Not only is it a matter of the protests not rising to the threshold required by the Emergencies Act, it is imagining events that might occur and acting out of this abundance of caution.
So that's what they were.
That was their rationale for keeping the Emergencies Act, which Justin Trudeau just got rid of today.
It was that, because something might happen in the future.
You might commit a crime in the future.
But what we do see that they want to continue doing is financially sanctioning protesters.
What is actually going to continue during this 30-day period or longer if it is renewed, as various ministers have contemplated, is the debanking of individuals.
That people who are associated with a protest movement are going to be labeled as anti-government extremists who have links to ideologically motivated, violent extremists on the say-so of the government, just the RCMP forwarding their names to financial institutions.
But they are going to be locked out of the financial sector.
You have a situation where one of the convoy organizers is released on bail as he states that he's locked out of his bank accounts.
This is amazing stuff.
If this was going on in China or Russia, I have no doubt that we would be condemning this.
And if you do want to see what it's like under emergency powers, this was a lady trying to go get a coffee.
I just want to get a coffee, okay?
Why is I have a car in my face right now?
Are you partaking?
You walk up.
I'm scared.
I want to go for a coffee down there.
Can I go?
I live here.
Where do you live?
Alberta.
Time for you to leave.
I can't even go down there for a coffee.
Go grab yourself in the red zone right now.
If you don't leave right now, you will be arrested.
Do you understand me?
I can't go for a coffee.
Grab yourself because if we see you, we'll be patrolling all day.
If we see you again, it'll be different.
Leave.
I won't.
Take your camera and get out of here.
She was walking away.
I'm walking away.
Walk away.
Your phone doesn't need to be in our face when you're walking away.
Please have my tap my phone now.
Are you going to walk or are you going to get arrested?
I want to walk away.
Get out of here.
Oh, my goodness.
Hope you can go to sleep at night.
So that's what it was like, right?
So that's what they lifted.
I wonder if they're going to keep a freeze on their bank accounts.
I wonder if they can.
It doesn't matter.
And so, you know, they're doing exactly what people claim dictators do and Putin does.
They're arresting the protesters, cutting off their fund.
They're treating them as if they're terrorists and they're their own citizens.
So, anything you'd like to add to that, Max?
I mean, there's a lot to add.
I actually feel like this segment relates to the last one.
Me too.
We see sort of a waning empire that no longer has the power to boss the world around as it did during the high period of American hegemony in the 90s.
And now the wars are coming home.
Its leaders and their big money backers feel threatened and desperate.
And they have begun cracking down on their own populations and implementing the kind of measures that they denounce in Russia and China as authoritarian.
That's why Put Trudeau is just being mocked relentlessly on the world stage for his claim that Canada is standing up to Russia's authoritarianism.
When he created an emergency with his own authoritarian mandates and authoritarian lockdowns and authoritarian vaccine passports and authoritarian rhetoric demonizing people for their non-compliance with all of these authoritarian member measures as a public health threat, using public health as a weapon against Canadian citizens who elected him to serve them.
And now he's declared an emergency law, emergency rule to crack down on those who are protesting the authoritarian measures and the emergency he created.
And we can see how phony the emergency was with the fact that Trudeau can lift the emergency law when he's about to be embarrassed before the Canadian Senate.
Now, maybe the Senate would have approved of his emergency law because of all the tools and the supposedly socialist NDP, as well as the Liberal Party.
But it was not going to be the kind of vote Trudeau wanted to see.
It was going to be a very narrow margin.
It was going to be embarrassing.
Then there would have to be legal precedent he would have to establish at some point in the future.
It had to be lifted.
And it was lifted just arbitrarily.
Again, what's the point of it?
What was the point of it?
It was just to intimidate protesters from doing this again and from actually using their power as workers.
Yes, they were workers.
I know the lockdown left likes to call them petty bourgeois owner operators because the lockdown left supported all of Trudeau's failed authoritarian pandemic restriction measures, but they don't want to debate that.
So they want to delete these people as workers.
And so they call them petty bourgeois owner operators, which could also be applied to the Uber drivers who tried to organize and be unionized in California who own their own cars or all of the laptop left media personalities who own their own laptops.
But in any case, they used their power as workers to threaten capital by blockading the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor.
And that was really the turning point for Trudeau to declare emergency law.
It wasn't as though he was threatened with war, but Biden was breathing down his neck, telling it was Biden who told him, you need to crack down on this.
Capital is threatened.
And Trudeau, like the good poodle he is, went even further than I think a lot of his supporters imagined with the total support of the supposed socialists of the NDP, like World Economic, World Economic Forum young leader Jagmeet Singh, and declared authoritarianism in Canada.
I am a neoliberal dictator for a day or two.
And then, of course, he got embarrassed.
And it reminds me, by the way, Jimmy, of what happened in Washington after January 6th, where there was this riot in the Capitol for a few hours.
I was there covering it.
I lived nearby, went to see it.
The cops kind of weirdly disappeared for a few hours.
Then they came and dispersed everyone.
Everyone was gone by 6 p.m.
The next day, 48 hours later, there were fences going up all around, not just the Capitol, but all around the district.
And CNN reporters were out there mouthing scripts delivered to them by the FBI that there was the threat of QAnon insider attacks and that QAnon was going to come back and attack Washington and attack America.
QAnon had become the new al-Qaeda, and the security state proceeded to have a field day with the situation with phony threats of new attacks.
So we see that script repeated in Canada.
It's the U.S. post-January 6th script, and it will be applied to any populist protest that actually threatens power, that actually threatens capital and threatens this marriage, this open and naked, unmasked marriage of industry and government and the corporate state that we've seen unmasked during the pandemic.
And I'm sure we'll see it as the trucker convoy in the U.S. moves closer to Washington.
The main capitals of the Five Eyes nations are being fenced off to any protest that threatens the power of its neoliberal leaders.
And it's doing it with the support of the lockdown left.
Absolutely pathetic.
An absolute capitulation of the lockdown left.
And don't start protesting emergency law now after you ran the ball to the one-yard line and cheered on Trudeau and did your phony little Antifa counter blockade and had your phony little protest.
And now you're against the emergency law, which could ban your protest too.
If you ever have any, if you ever do anything as meaningful as the truckers just did, which you probably won't.
But just don't even try to say you're against emergency law because it was the lockdown left and the NDP and Jagmeet Singh that gave Trudeau all the space to his left they needed to do that he needed to do this.
They are not any threat to power.
In fact, they are its left hand.
There's a headline, I'm not kidding, in The Atlantic, and the headline is: mask mandates don't need to make sense.
They only need to align with communities' goals.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's sort of a middle-class ritual to virtue signal your safetyism.
So wearing a piece of cloth over your face declares that you are a member of the good, polite, safetyist team, and you are compliant with public health goals.
It doesn't matter if it works or not.
There's an article in the New Republic basically saying that people who don't want their four-year-old kids to have to wear a mask all day, impeding their normal childhood development and ability to learn, are racists.
It literally calls them racists.
It's racist to not want your four-year-old to wear a schmata for eight hours a day that does nothing to prevent transmission.
So the first half or two-thirds of my comedy career I spent now used to make fun of the right wing.
And now it's just, you can't help it, but the people who consider themselves left have lost their minds.
They're not left.
A lot of them have, they're closeted authoritarians.
Maybe they are left.
Maybe that's what the left is.
I don't really care.
I just know they're wrong.
Yes, I know.
And they don't want to debate because they'll get curb stomped.
So they just sit there.
Nobody who has a critique, has a criticism of my coverage of COVID has ever invited me on to debate or to talk about anything or have a conversation about it.
The only time I've ever had it was when my friend Graham Melwood came on the show to debate vaccine mandates, which.
Yeah, and aside from him saying that I'm not funny.
Come on, Alex.
You know, aside from that, I thought, you know, that was a productive exchange.
Oh, okay, good.
I'm glad somebody did.
Okay, that's good.
All right.
I couldn't.
I mean, you got to see both sides' arguments, and you all have a long-term friendship.
So you weren't going to destroy your friendship as so many other people have done over a bunch of COVID-19.
And you had a productive exchange and were able to present each side and let the public decide who's right.
That was a debate.
What helps me, what helps me handle it in that way is because I used to be just like my friend Graham.
And I know where they're coming from.
I was in the exact same mindset.
And I believed what I was told.
And I believe that you get the vaccine, you go back to your regular life.
You get the vaccine, you prevent your, you're not going to give it to someone else, and you're not going to get it.
That's what I thought.
You're not going to get it.
You're not going to give it to someone else.
And it's nothing like that.
And if that was the case, you might have an, you then might have an argument.
Not that I would still agree with you then for a mandate, but at least you would have an argument.
Now there is absolutely zero and always has been, by the way, because we've known since last summer that everyone's going to get COVID.
And that was before Omicron, which is way more contagious than the Delta was.
So Delta was so contagious, according to Andy Slavet, that likely everybody was going to get Omicron, get COVID then.
And now since there's Omicron, they're telling everybody that, yeah, we're all going to, even Fauci's admitting it now.
So that's why mandates don't make you want a mandate, you're going to get it.
You're not going to stop yourself from getting it.
You better go get a vaccine to protect yourself if that's what you want to do.
Anyway.
Yeah.
The whole narrative has completely collapsed since Omicron.
And part of the reason that the narrative has collapsed is because the laptop class that stayed home while the frontline workers brought them their food and brought them their Amazon deliveries finally got COVID and saw that it was not a dibola virus that was going to eat their face and kill them and that they were going to get it regardless of whether they were vaccinated or not.
So then, I mean, the wheels came off the narrative.
We see all this one study after another on lockdowns on how they were completely ineffective intervention that actually harmed more people than it helped and on and on and on.
And then you have this tiny sectarian faction of the feverish, the most feverish cadres of the lockdown left who've chosen this moment as the time when they're going to double down and take on the most extreme position of zero COVID that we need to lock down forever after the horse is already out of the barn.
And you can see in their little podcast they do, just read the comments.
I mean, they're just getting hammered.
They're just discredited.
And yet they're still going.
It's really ridiculous.
And what they wound up doing is providing, as I said before, they're providing cover for the consolidation of the biomedical Security state that we see in Canada, where Christia Freeland, the number two in Canada, said many of the emergency measures, specifically relating to freezing individual bank accounts and imposing financial sanctions on individuals without a court order, will remain permanent.
That's the legacy of the lockdown left.
The lockdown left's legacy isn't saving lives or helping people.
Oh, no.
And so, and of course they won't debate.
What they do is they instead frame everything as a left and right issue or some kind of culture war issue where the truckers are wrong because they're right wing, not because mandates are right or wrong.
They totally divert the discussion.
The truckers are out there protesting mandates.
They're protesting the vaccine passports.
The vaccine passports and being monitored.
That discussion has been completely taken off the table with this discussion about whether they're fascist or not.
Right.
And how they're what Amnesty International called them a white dominant group that deserves police repression.
Amnesty Canada actually issued a statement saying that there is not enough police repression of this white dominant group.
So they're a racist.
They're right-wing nut jobs.
And anyone who is, for example, a Canadian sick, because the Sikh population participates heavily in the trucking industry in Toronto and they've had a presence in these protests.
They're tokens or the Jamaican Canadian participants, they're tokens.
Anyone who, you know, it just all, it all gets, it all gets funneled into culture war, race, a culture, just like the whole cooked up controversy over Joe Rogan.
I mean, let's put Joe Rogan in proper context here.
What happened?
It all started with Neil Young, whose brain, as I said before, is, I know I'm a Neil Young fan.
I mean, his music transcends what he did, but his brain is basically 83% balling water now.
So there are like powerful people behind him pushing him to do this.
Then the letter, 270 physicians condemned Joe Rogan over COVID misinformation.
And who are these physicians?
The lead person on that letter was actually a staffer for the Rockefeller Foundation.
That's not a hospital.
That's not a doctor's office.
This wasn't a practicing physician.
It is a functionary within a global billionaire-backed foundation that is shaping COVID-19 policy.
So that failed.
They didn't nail Joe Rogan on the facts or on spouting any specific COVID misinformation because they didn't want to debate him on that, just like Sanjay Gupta didn't want to debate him.
Remember?
Yes.
He got CNN's medical expert got destroyed when he actually went into the lion's den.
And credit to him for actually having the debate.
So what did it wind up being?
Some Democratic-affiliated billionaire-backed groups found some footage of Joe Rogan saying the N-word, took it out of context, put it out there, and Joe Rogan had and Spotify deleted episodes, and Joe Rogan had to issue some kind of apology.
And what were those episodes that were deleted?
One of them was about Julian Assange.
I think it may have been an interview with Julian Assange.
So everything gets turned into a culture war instead of the class war that it actually is.
And workers are not workers unless they're demonstrating for liberal imperatives, even according to members of the lockdown left who claim to be to the left of the liberals and the Democratic Party.
They always default to the liberal consensus in a time of domestic crisis.
It's really pathetic.
And then what about Justin Trudeau?
What about Justin Trudeau?
Have we seen his blackface photos surface anywhere?
Those are a thousand times more racist than anything Joe Rogan ever did.
I mean, what kind of grown man goes out in blackface, dressed as an Arab to a party and is like the freaking prime minister's son?
Like, I'm so funny.
Who does that?
Justin Trudeau, the body double for Keanu Reeves and the devil's advocate, did that.
And if he had done anything off script, off the World Economic Forum script that he swore loyalty to, those photos would have been plastered over every freeway from Ottawa to Toronto to Alberta.
Yeah.
But, but no, he's not the racist.
Joe Rogan and the truckers who are having moon bounce parties and honking their horns are racist.
The Canadian parliamentarian said Hong Kong actually stands for Heil Hitler because the first two letters are HH.
Oh, God.
I mean, look, where were the hate crimes?
Where was the attacks?
Where were the violence?
Where was it?
Where's the violence?
The Canadian RCMP had to pull out guns and like take pictures of them because no one was firing it.
All I tried to do was get a vote on Medicare for all in Congress, which everyone agreed to.
And I was called a white supremacist.
I was called an alt-right dirtbag, all kinds of things by the establishment press.
So that's just, that's just the playbook, right?
And so that's, they did it to do that.
At least, you know, call me an anti-Semite is one thing because I'm, you know, I mean, my pronouns are self-hate.
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I'm here with American journalist Max Blumenthal from the gray zone.
And we're going to talk about digital IDs.
So now I saw a video of Tony Blair speaking about digital IDs from like 2019 before COVID.
And he was talking about what a great thing they would be for, and I can't find that goddamn video, but he was talking, I have it somewhere in my computer, but I can't find it.
And he was talking about how digital IDs would be great for consumers and for businesses.
It would be great.
It would be convenient.
It was all about business and the convenience for the, and so now during COVID, he says this about digital ID.
So he's all foot.
He's been for digital IDs for a long time.
They want them.
And they're going to use whatever argument is convenient at the moment.
And so now he says this.
You can create the digital ID today that is much more easily protected.
So you can deal with a lot of the privacy and surveillance issues that worry people.
But it's a natural evolution of the way that we're going to use technology in any event to transact daily life.
And this COVID crisis gives an additional reason for doing that.
Because look, I could be wrong about this, but when I look at, for example, how you restart some businesses, how you restart international travel, I think people's disease status, for example, have they been tested?
What is the result of that test?
Have they had The disease, do they have the disease?
I think, unless you're able to record some of this data in a way that people can use, it's going to be difficult to go back to anything like a near-normal in things like transport.
So, if you're going to start international travel again, how do you do that?
Unless people can be easily texted and have some record of that text.
How can you have freedom of movement unless it's not free and you're totally totally monitored?
And the thing that used to be super personal that we have to spend, we have things called HIPAA laws to keep your medical stuff.
Now it's just going to be at an app, and the government's going to have access to it.
Any other jag off in the world, apparently, is going to be able to get at that.
And he's just saying, it's the way it's the natural evolution of things.
It's a natural evolution.
So now, and Joe Rogan, this gets brought up.
So, here we go.
Do you feel like you're sounding the alarm for people that don't understand what the fuck is going on?
So, here, I'll put it off for you here.
Yeah.
So, there's the video.
I don't know if your camera can see that, but there's the video.
There's him speaking about it.
The G7 is launching a set of public policy principles for retail central bank digital currencies, CBDCs.
Central bank digital currencies could be a digital version of money, a bit like a digital banknote that could be used alongside.
So, that's the guy who runs our economy in the UK.
His name's the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
And here is the article.
Bank of England tells ministers to intervene on digital currency programming.
And here's a quote from the article.
This is in the telegraph, the one he pulled up, but it was behind a paywall.
So, I'll just read the quote: Digital cash could be programmed to ensure it is only spent on essentials or goods which an employer or government deems to be sensible.
Oh my God.
Now, I'm going to take it one step further, Fiji, right?
So, the vaccine passport infrastructure is in place.
But now we know that the vaccine doesn't stop infectional transmission, but the checkpoint Charlie exists everywhere.
They bring in digital banking, central banking digital currencies.
You've got a scenario now that you're checking in and out everywhere you go using vouchers that are programmed and you can only spend where you're told you can spend them.
There's another word for that, man.
That's called the Chinese social credit system.
That's what it's called.
And anyone who watches Black Mirror will know what I'm talking about.
That's that TV show, right?
Yeah.
So, what they are telling us, and when I say they, who's they?
People in power.
That's the head of our economy, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, second most powerful person other than the Prime Minister and maybe the Foreign Secretary in the UK, right?
He's telling us, I just played it there for you.
He's telling us that's what he, as the UK, the head of the G7, want to bring in for the G7.
So, a scenario where, like, in New York at the moment, because the passport infrastructure is in place, you bring in that digital currency and you've got this total control.
And if I'm speaking to you the way I'm speaking now, and my employer or government, you heard that in the quote directly, yeah, deems me as saying or doing something inappropriate, suddenly I can't actually pay to come here and speak to you anymore.
My digital currency won't even pay for the ticket because it will be known that I'm coming to speak to you.
Sorry, your vouchers don't allow you to purchase that ticket to go and speak to John.
So let me bring in Max Blumedoff from the gray zone.
That's chilling.
We've talked about this, and that's what happened up in Ottawa when Justin Trudeau instituted the Emergency Powers Act.
They froze those people's bank accounts, which to me is a form of terrorism.
And people don't seem to have a problem with this.
I mean, the lockdown left people in the, in general, people don't seem to have a problem with this.
What do you say, Max?
Well, they won't even address it.
But let me first say, before getting into the issue, that was Majid Nawaz speaking, and he was the founder or co-founder of a think tank in the UK called Quilliam, which ironically was heavily involved in beefing up or providing sort of Muslim support for the UK security state as it sought new surveillance powers after 9-11 against the British Muslim population.
So there is a real irony about him warning about new mechanisms of social control and mass surveillance.
I think he should acknowledge the damage he did with Quilliam before he goes off on another tangent as accurate as what he said might have been.
And yeah, he is right in his analysis there.
By the way, Quilliam was actually funded by the British government and helped sell the war in Libya.
So, you know, there's that to me is just pretty hypocritical.
But this clip is going around him.
I mean, I'm glad people are waking up to what vaccine passports are really about.
They're not about public health.
They're about social control and private wealth.
As Jeremy Lafredo illustrated for us at the gray zone, you know, a lot of digital ID programs are backed by the big tech oligarchs who see them as a way of harvesting money from populations who they call unbanked.
So they want to get populations in Africa and India, especially India, into this digital architecture.
And one way to do it, one way to do it, and the World Economic Forum has openly said this, is through mass vaccination policy.
Because if you're not vaccinated, you don't get a passport, a domestic health passport, and then you can't obtain, when it's digitized, it doesn't become a digital ID.
So just to bring it back to basics, the vaccine passport right now is paper in most places.
But in state after state, there are initiatives to digitize it through the cell phone.
It's not going to be done on a national basis in the U.S. Most states now have digital passports.
Or, for example, to be a public school teacher in New Jersey, you have to have uploaded your vaccine status to a program, an online program that you then show on your phone.
So it effectively already is digitized.
How do they get around HIPAA law?
I guess I should ask a lawyer.
But doesn't HIPAA make all your medical stuff private?
And now they're compelling you to reveal your medical status?
It's crazy, right?
I mean, we well, does informed consent exist anymore?
No.
After mandates?
No.
Does bodily autonomy matter to the people who used to fight for it, tooth and nail, declaring my body my choice?
No.
The principles have all been stripped away in the name of public health.
So it's created the perfect context and political accelerant for a program that, as you saw with Tony Blair, was already on the table before the pandemic.
Tony Blair's foundation has been funded to the tune of $25 million since I think it was founded by Bill Gates, who is one of the key investors in the whole international project of digital ID.
And let's look at what Key Bill Gates ally has done in India.
His name is Nadan Nilakani.
He has something called Aadhaar, which requires all Indians To register their Iris, their IRIS data through scan and fingerprint scans in order to access everything from home mortgages to government subsidies.
And so, in some of the poorest areas in India, like the province of Jharkhand, where we've recently seen horrific scenes of forced vaccination, you can find it easily online.
People being vaccinated by cops against their will.
Yeah, I've seen the video.
Yeah, this is in a very poor rural province in India called Jharkhand.
You have had people actually die because of the Adhar digital ID system because they're unable to either access their biometric data.
They might not be educated enough to navigate the system, or local corrupt officials try to extract money from them in order to get their benefits.
And so, you don't get your monthly rice benefit if you're unable to register your irises and your fingerprints.
And one of the people who died in 2017 was an 11-year-old named Santoshi Kumari, who died begging for rice when her family's ration card was canceled because it was no longer linked to their digital ID.
So, this has wide-ranging consequences.
Also, privacy consequences.
In Brazil, for example, the data of their digital ID system was leaked, and everyone who was HIV positive had their medical information leaked on WhatsApp.
It took like five minutes for a hacker to get all of that data.
And so, therefore, a lot of people who are HIV positive in Brazil are not registering, and therefore, they're unable to access, they've been unable to access through these systems their public health benefits or contraceptives or anything they need to treat themselves, particularly people who are sex workers.
It's a discriminatory system, it hurts the poor the most.
It hurts the elderly the most, people who don't use smartphones.
It hurts people who are on the margins of society the most.
The homeless population of DC throughout Washington, D.C., where I live, was locked out of many indoor spaces by Mayor Muriel Bowser when she imposed vaccine passports.
And now she's removing them because she said there actually was no public health goal there.
It was just about increasing the vaccination rate by coercing people.
So, she gave away the game.
And now, some yuppy gentrifier restaurants want to keep them permanently just because their clients like it.
But this is about control.
It's not about public health.
It's about private wealth, social control.
And you have the issue of CBDC, central bank digital currency.
It's called a conspiracy theory, but now, as we see in Canada, people are having their bank accounts frozen without a court order.
So, if there's no longer paper cash and you are given digital currency, paid in digital currency, administered by a central bank, well, in a time of emergency, when a government declares that a protest is a threat or a particular political movement is a threat, supporters of that political movement and the protesters themselves, the protest organizers, can have their entire cash flow completely cut off, just like that.
I mean, that's what we're seeing in Canada.
It is possible.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
This is a reality.
This is when people, when people talk about technocracy and the World Economic Forum, which is one of the main kind of policy hubs for devising these kinds of mechanisms, it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's something that we need to organize and mobilize against if we're to have any chance of ever mobilizing or organizing again.
Ever.
Well, here's what they're talking about.
I played this once before on the show, I think, with you.
I want to play it again.
This is kind of, this is stunning.
Hello, everyone.
Meet Lucy, student in psychology.
And me, her digital ID wallet issued by the government to offer a wide range of identity services.
In fact, I'm a handy way of proving and protecting her identity both online and face-to-face.
Let's have a closer look at what I can do.
I can help governments to better communicate with citizens.
Right now, I'm reminding Lucy of the appointment she needs to schedule for her mandatory vaccination.
Mandatory.
Mandatory.
Time to go to her exam.
Lucy is a bit stressed out.
I'm here to make it easy for her to prove she is the right candidate, with a quick and secure connection between her phone and the examiners.
*music*
How convenient.
Now your examiner has all your everything about you.
Isn't that amazing?
Here we go.
Exam passed successfully.
Quick stop at the doctor's before celebrating.
And no time to lose.
On the way, Lucy uses me to declare her passport lost.
She needs it for her upcoming road trip.
No issue.
She can request an emergency digital passport without having to go to the authority office.
I make official admin a lot smoother.
And that's not all.
I can also help Lucy request a birth certificate, pay her taxes, or prove who she is when onboarding to new services, such as opening a bank account.
I allow Lucy to certify her healthcare coverage entitlement.
She's able to decide whether to authorize the doctor to access her medical records or not, ensuring her control over her personal data.
Lucy needs one more thing before being all set for her trip to Australia.
Renting a car.
I help her share her driver's license credentials online so that she doesn't have to wait hours in a queue to collect the car when she gets to Brisbane.
The rental company benefits from secure and accurate information and Lucy from a smooth experience.
Lucy's friends are waiting for her inside the bar.
To allow her to get in, I simply generate a QR code that proves Lucy is old enough so she doesn't have to share all her ID details with the bar staff.
So yes, I'm Lucy's best companion.
I protect her identity and official credentials wherever she goes.
I provide secured access to public and private services and allow her to have full control over her data privacy.
In other words, I give the right access to the right data to the right person.
I am also trusted by governments to best support countries' digital transformation, fight against ID fraud, and deliver smooth public services.
I am the Talus Digital ID wallet.
Wow.
Okay, and if I ever get hacked, Lucy is screwed.
Okay.
In time, I can own Lucy.
There you are.
That's what they're talking About that is what they're talking about in a happy voice.
It makes me excited for the digital transformation of the better future of tomorrow.
And compliant drones like Lucy are that future.
If you are not a compliant drone, you are totally fucked and will be confined to a life of purgatory and social exclusion in our digital prison.
Lucy, sit down and drink this Kool-Aid.
I promise it will help you.
Time to put on my skin suit.
So that's what.
So that's what they don't know it, but the lockdown left is ushering that in.
They don't know it, but that's.
No, they openly support it.
They've openly supported vaccine passports.
They've openly supported it.
That's what they support.
They support TALIS.
TALIS is a military contractor based in Australia that contracts with NATO.
And they are going to design this digital transformation that's going to make everything happy.
And the lockdown left fully supported it.
And, you know, some people on the left, the left influencers, they'll say to me, like, I actually oppose the mandates.
Like, that's news to me.
You never said shit.
Yeah.
Like, you could actually make a difference if you said something.
It's not about a jab.
That's what it's about.
That's what it's about.
It is about technocratic control.
It is about neoliberal dictatorship.
And you haven't said anything.
And so.
No, it's covered.
I mean, it's horrible.
We've talked about this before.
There it is.
It's making the rounds because it got brought up on Joe Rogan's show.
And there's Tony Blair.
He's been pushing forward for a while.
And there's another clip of that.
I don't have time to play.
We have to get to our next guest.
So I'm sorry I have to end this segment and say goodbye to Max Blumenthal, the American journalist who could add the curator of the GrayZone.gov.
Please check out everything ever over at thegrayzo.gov.
All right, Max, thanks for being here.
Go ahead.
And don't forget to take your mandatory vaccine against Havana syndrome.
Yeah, that's right.
And this app can make your mandatory vaccine a jiffy.
So guess what's going on right now?
The CDC is withholding COVID data over fears of misinterpretation.
What?
So that's that's here.
We go.
I'm not making this up.
The CDC has admitted that it is withholding large portions of COVID-19 data, including on vaccine boosters, from the public because it fears the information could be misinterpreted.
Wow.
I guess misinformation is dangerous, but nowhere near as dangerous as information.
They're withholding information, not misinformation.
They're withholding information.
I would have thought releasing information would be the antidote to misinformation, but common mistake.
Just don't worry about any of it and keep your mouth shut.
Science.
Okay, here we go.
The leading public health agency has only published a small sample of the data it has been collecting.
What?
Despite being two years into the pandemic, sources told the New York Times.
Kristen Norland, a CDC spokeswoman, said the reason for the slow release of the data is because basically at the end of the day, it's not yet ready for prime time.
She added that the CDC's priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it's accurate and actionable.
So is this why the only studies that we have come from Israel?
I mean, I thought that was weird.
I thought, gee, in two years, should we have a ton of studies?
Why does Israel have relevant numbers and data and we don't?
Well, I guess now we know because it's not ready for prime time yet.
What in the F does that even mean?
That means nothing.
That means nothing.
But another reason is that the data could be misinterpreted by the public.
So when they say not ready for prime time, I'm guessing they need more improv classes.
Is that what you think?
Right?
Is that what that's going on there?
That's not science talk when you say it's not ready for prime time.
That's showbiz talk.
I would like them to get back to the science talk.
So they're afraid that the data is going to be misinterpreted.
Why do I have a feeling that they're really worried that the data is going to be interpreted?
Among the data that has been collected, but not made public, is hospitalizations broken down by age, race, and vaccination status over the last year and information on the effectiveness of booster shots.
You would think that they would fucking be telling us all this stuff.
What is going on?
They're not sharing important data that affects the public.
Why?
Prime time.
When the CDC released data on the effectiveness of boosters for adults and younger than 65 two weeks ago, it did not include full numbers.
So anybody under 50, we don't know what the data is on the people under 50.
We don't know what the data is on people under 50.
So the data for the most coveted demo in capitalism, the 18 to 49-year-olds, we have no idea what the data is.
That is.
Maybe that data is proprietary.
You know, health is a business nowadays, isn't it?
According to one CDC official, Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the COVID pandemic has revealed how outdated the agency and other state-level health systems has become.
You know, when your data is lagging behind a YouTube show, outdata isn't the word.
Incompetent, corrupt, a debacle.
These are more of the words that I would use for the CDC.
Okay.
And here's what a doctor has to say about it.
Yeah, Kelly, I think having timely data in a pandemic allows states, cities to make timely information and policy, right?
To say which population is at risk, which population could use a booster more quickly, who should we target.
But I think here the issue is twofold.
One is that we have an underfunded and outdated public health data system and a problem that preceded the pandemic.
And the pandemic has only exacerbated it because the CDC needs to take the slow-moving collection at the hospital levels, at the state levels, collate it, collect it, make sure it's accurate, and then interpret it.
All of that takes time, right?
So the second issue is that what they've said is that they want to make sure that this is ready for prime time.
They don't want to share it given that there was so much misinformation before it's ready out there so that it could potentially cause confusion.
Yeah, yeah, you don't want to, yeah, you don't want to give information because then it'll get misinterpreted.
Hey, remember when Andrew Cuomo's administration didn't want to release the data on old people that Andrew had killed because it might be misinterpreted and help Trump?
Congrats on hitting Andrew Cuomo levels of dishonesty.
Way to go, CDC.
So we're still not allowed to contradict the CDC here on YouTube or else they'll take our channel down.
But the CDC will never have their channel taken down for all the nefarious shit.
Does anybody believe them anymore?
Oh, yeah, there's a crisis at the CDC before it is.
Well, how come nobody talks about it?
How come the head of the CDC, that Walinski woman, never talks about it when she comes on TV?
How come she never says, you know, there's a crisis at the CDC and we're not prepared to deal with this?
How come she never say that?
All they do is say masks and vaccines and shut the fuck up.
How come they never do anything ever to help you?
I think it's because the CDC, the FDA, Fauci, they're all corrupt.
Yeah, that's what I think.
*Bell rings*
Hey, this is Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hello, Mr. Door.
This is Senator Mitt Romney of the great state of Utah.
Oh, Mitt Naradne, please call me Jimmy.
That would be a little familiar, don't you think?
What are we, in a brothel?
Yeah.
All right, fired.
Why are you calling, Senator?
Well, if I'm being honest with myself, as much as it violates the moral teachings of my faith, I'm calling to gloat a little bit.
Oh, really?
How so?
Remember how I was running for president in the year 2012?
Remember that?
Yeah, I remember that.
Against Barack Obama?
Yeah, of course, Senator.
Right.
Okay.
Well, during the course of that campaign, I asserted that Russia was the number one threat to the security of the world.
And I was, to use common lingo, dragged for that.
Obama said I was stuck in a Cold War mindset.
I was absolutely clowned on right and left.
But now, with Russian forces entering Ukraine and everybody going bananas about it, my comment appears to be rehabilitated.
Yeah, but it's not.
Oh, for sure.
No way.
It was dumb then and it's dumb now.
Let me be clear.
I only said that at the time as red meat for the base.
As I was trying to position myself as a reggan-like figure, nothing is more regan-esque than saying Russia is bad.
Simple associative politics.
That was it.
That was literally it.
I suspected as much, Mitt.
But it appears I was right now.
Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
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