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	Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program.
	The Jimmy Dore Show.
	This is Jimmy.
	Who's this?
	Jimmy, this is my Papa.
	Mike, who?
	Papa.
	I'm going to miss you, man.
	So you got to say it one more time.
	That sweet ass name.
	Poppeo.
	That's the stuff.
	How you doing, Mr. Secretary?
	Well, we're doing well here in the State Department, taking care of administrative issues related to the upcoming transition to the Biden administration.
	So you admit Joe Biden won the election and he's going to be sworn in?
	Yep.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm not catching what you're saying.
	Yes, Jimmy.
	Joe Biden won, and he will assume office on January 20th.
	Joe Biden will fix all the problems that America's ever had.
	And Kamala Harris is a magical dancing in the rain, woman of color, who will bring Prince and Eddie Van Halen back from the dead, and they will all put on an amazing outdoor yet socially distant concert.
	Are you happy?
	Are you happy now?
	I didn't need you to say all that, Mr. Secretary.
	Yeah, well, okay.
	Weren't you supposed to take a trip recently?
	Was I?
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	It didn't happen.
	Why not?
	Scott, scheduling complex.
	Really?
	I heard it got canceled because after the riot at the White House, world leaders were reluctant to meet with you.
	The foreign minister of Luxembourg straight up refused to meet with you, calling your boss a political pyromaniac.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Look, here's the deal.
	Luxembourg is a crucial NATO ally.
	It's a small nation, but a wealthy and influential one.
	And they play their own version of 3D chess over there, just like we do.
	Their version is called the Dairova Topuspiel.
	What?
	I'm not repeating that.
	Okay.
	So the reasons for disinviting you are.
	A lot of moving parts here.
	It seems to me that world leaders are just disgusted with Trump and just didn't want to meet with one of his lackeys.
	No, no.
	I wouldn't put it that way.
	It's a very complicated diplomatic move on their part, Jimmy.
	Quite frankly, it's a little above your pay grade, to be honest.
	No, I think it's because you work for a soulless gangster that the rest of the world wants to completely disavow.
	Simple observations are well within my pay grade, sir.
	Yo, look, Jimmy, I don't want to argue.
	I just don't.
	I got a week left of this job, so this will probably be my last phone call to the Jimmy Dorshaw.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Too bad.
	Are you sure, though, does it have to be that way?
	Well, once I've died, the government, I'm not sure how relevant it would be to get a phone call for a Mike Poppeo private citizen.
	Hey, I don't know.
	We got a guy still calling in as Tony Soprano.
	2007 that went off the air.
	Well, yeah, but I probably won't be able to talk about what I'm doing.
	What will you be doing?
	Not completely sure yet.
	Think tag, lobbying, board position with an energy or tobacco company.
	A lot of possibilities.
	A lot of moving parts here.
	Yeah.
	Whatever it is, the last thing I'm going to do is call you up and reveal the utter darkness of how this country really works.
	Well, I wish you would.
	Okay, baby, I will.
	Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
	Ha ha ha ha ha.
	Hey, before you leave, Mr. Secretary, could you please hit us one more time with that sweet-ass shit?
	Ah, sure, why not?
	Hold on.
	Oh.
	Ahem.
	Ahem.
	Bob Bell!
	Oh!
	Yeah Establishment media sets of artists fighting.
	So good luck.
	Watch and see as a jack-youngium speeds and jumps the medium and hits him head-on.
	It's the Jimmy Door show.
	Hey, everybody.
	Welcome to this week's Jimmy Dore show.
	Let's get to the jokes before we get to the jokes, shall we?
	Well, this looks bad.
	You know, I can't help but think if I'd only promoted my ice bucket challenge against coup attempts sooner, none of this would have happened.
	You know, after last week, I really can't understand why so many countries aren't eager for America's help.
	Donald Trump is a racist, obviously, dropping over 26,000 bombs a year on Muslim countries.
	Well, that's just foreign policy.
	I'm relieved to learn that that was only a Chuck Norris lookalike at the Capitol riots.
	It wasn't Chuck Norris, even though it was his most convincing role.
	American philosophy can best be summarized by the phrase, follow your bliss.
	Just as long as you follow it, the fuck off my property.
	Hey, what's coming up on today's show?
	AOC finally endorses Force to Vote.
	No kidding.
	And she explains why Jimmy Doer's strategy was a good idea.
	But will she force the vote for Medicare for all?
	The answer just may surprise you, or will it?
	Plus, we talk with Professor Richard Wolf about last week's capital insurrection that was caused by the failure of capitalism and America's rapacious donor class.
	Plus, we find out Richard Wolfe's family secrets and phone calls from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Barack Obama, David Axelrod, and Noam Chomsky call in this week, plus a lot lot more.
	That's today on the Jimmy Dore show.
	Hey, Noam Chomsky's calling me again.
	Hello.
	Hey, everybody, what's up?
	It's Naomi.
	Hey, wow.
	This is so flattering.
	Nob Chomsky, linguist, historian, renowned cognitive scientist, is on my show again.
	To what do I owe the honor of this occasion, sir?
	Well, I have a very important question to ask you, Jimmy.
	Please go ahead.
	Did you take my lighter?
	Why is that funny?
	No, I didn't.
	You didn't take my lighter.
	No, I didn't.
	I didn't know you smoked pot, Noam.
	I do not smoke pot.
	That is correct, but I do imbibe.
	I imbibe to experience bliss and a feeling of oneness with my surroundings.
	Heed the weed, dude.
	You have to free your mind one imbibe at a time.
	So when you say imbibe, that's not the same as smoking pot.
	Imbibe.
	So when you say imbibe, that's not the same as smoking pot.
	I'm sorry, Jimmy.
	My weed is so loud, I can't hear your bullshit.
	May I ask how you got to be so smart?
	I never missed a day of high school.
	Yeah.
	Get it?
	Yeah.
	High school.
	Yeah.
	High school.
	Now ask me the best way to avoid the post-huff bong smoke burn.
	Okay, okay.
	What's the best way to avoid the post-huff bong smoke burn?
	I found that crushing a menthol cough drop into the base usually lessens the post-hug bong burn.
	Now ask me what my favorite day of the week is.
	What's your favorite day of the week?
	I don't know.
	What's your favorite day of the week?
	Friday.
	Because that's when you get fried.
	Jesus Christ, No.
	Okay, now ask me what a friend indeed is.
	Jesus Christ.
	This is so stupid.
	most brilliant guy in the world.
	And we have...
	...
	This is so stupid.
	Noam.
	Yes.
	Why don't you just tell me?
	Why don't you just tell me what a friend indeed is instead of making me ask you?
	Oh, okay.
	I could do that, but I'd rather have you ask me instead.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	What is a friend indeed?
	A friend with we.
	Okay.
	Now, I have yet another question you should ask me.
	No, I don't want to ask you any more questions about Pot, Noam.
	Stop it.
	Wow, you seem full of tension and anger, Jimmy.
	Yeah, there's a lot of shit going on, Noam.
	You always seem so calm and composed.
	How do you do that?
	Well, it's like I tell all my guests, always pass to the left.
	Let it burn until everyone is faced.
	You know what I mean?
	Pass a shaggy a baggy so we can roll Scooby and Doobie.
	Jesus.
	But Biden and his cabinet, the pandemic, illegal wars, nobody fighting for Medicare for all anymore.
	Doesn't it all fill you with anger?
	Chillax, Jimmy.
	How?
	Primal scream therapy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's where you let out the most gut-wrenching, unrestrained, animalistic scream possible in order to release repressed anger.
	Are you ready?
	I'll go first.
	Ah.
	ah That was it.
	Wait, I got one more.
	Oh, thank you, Noam.
	I feel we can push Biden to the left now.
	My pleasure, Jimmy.
	Remember, let it burn till everyone is fake, then pass it to the left.
	Hey, are you sure you didn't take my lighter?
	Ah.
	But right now, let's get what AOC did.
	So just so everybody knows, Representative Presley, Talib, Bauman, Bush, Ocasio-Cortez, and Omar have sent a letter to congressional leadership urging them to reconvene both chambers and immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump.
	Wow.
	AOC says Congress will now be introducing articles of impeachment on Monday.
	Yesterday, our squad urged House leadership to move quickly to impeach this president.
	Unfortunately, our country does not have the luxury of time.
	So is she implying that they actually have power?
	That's what it sounds like.
	It sounds like they actually have power.
	Let's hear what she says.
	Maybe we should just start voting on things based on whether we think it's right or not.
	And stop pretending that this shit's complicated.
	Why?
	Because it's not.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You're either with the people or you're with that mob.
	It's pretty clear-cut.
	You know what else is pretty clear-cut?
	People need health care.
	That's pretty clear-cut.
	This is amazing.
	So I just say I'm burying the lead.
	I'm getting to the best part.
	Please, I'm getting to the best part.
	She asked today on Twitter, she says, feel free to add any other questions you have on house procedures here.
	I'm happy to answer with what I've learned.
	Okay, so this guy, Blake Morris, says, hey, what is the purpose of a vote like the one tonight where the answer is already known, regardless of the result of the vote?
	Is it mainly just to get the representatives on the record?
	Thank you.
	A few reasons.
	Sometimes it's to get members on the record so people can't make excuses later.
	Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments.
	And three, sometimes we vote for the historical record to let future generations know we did everything we could.
	That is the best endorsement of force to vote I've ever heard.
	I did not expect AOC to be my biggest defender on force to vote.
	But that's everything forced to.
	All the things she missed out of that tweet was the hashtag force to vote.
	That's the only thing she missed out of that.
	I'm getting deja vu as anyone else.
	That's amazing.
	Hey, AOC, don't you want future generations to know you did everything you could to get them health care?
	That's kind of amazing.
	Now, some people were saying that, oh, I think that she's doing that to dunk on you, which I don't think so.
	I think this is just a simple misstep.
	Because that's what she's been saying for three years.
	That's what everybody's been saying, which is why I thought it would be non-controversial to get a floor vote on Medicare for all.
	Since they campaigned on that.
	Since they campaigned on doing this, and she's still saying it.
	This is what, two weeks later, she's saying it?
	Three weeks later?
	Two.
	That's remarkable.
	So this Valerina says this seems contradictory to the statement last week.
	Ari, the vote on the much-needed health care.
	It's quite frustrating.
	Hope someone addresses the ever-apparent confusion that festering in our progressive, that's festering in our progressive community.
	The issue has caused a rift among us.
	All due respect.
	Please respond.
	It's caused a rift.
	It hasn't caused a rift.
	It's revealed a divide between the people who actually want to do something and fight the establishment and the oligarchy and the people who aren't.
	It's revealed controlled opposition and people who aren't.
	It's revealed.
	It hasn't caused.
	Everybody's been for this.
	Superficially.
	Everybody's been for this superficially forcing a vote for Medicare for all on the floor.
	Everybody, Rokana, AOC, Nancy Pelosi was for it in 1994.
	Everybody's for this.
	The DSA, it's in their handbook, centerpiece of it.
	Everybody's for this, except when it came to do it.
	And then everybody saw who wasn't for it and who's actually controlled opposition, like TYT.
	And why did what?
	What happened with the DSA?
	What are they doing?
	So this revealed a lot of stuff.
	This didn't cause anything.
	This is literally the argument you were against when it came to Medicare for All vote.
	Almost like that one.
	It's almost like that one would expose members of your party, and you cannot have that.
	That's exactly right.
	Except when it's for healthcare during a pandemic.
	Exactly right.
	So why then, AOC, didn't you use the same logic when it came to forcing a vote on Medicare for All?
	What is the difference?
	Look at how, look at how diplomatic Breonna Joy Gray was.
	Watch this.
	So she's playing good cop, which is good.
	She says this is a good answer.
	Her answer about why she's forcing this vote.
	This is a good answer.
	And it was as true for Medicare for all as it is for impeachment.
	15 million people have lost their employer-based healthcare because of COVID.
	87 million are on or underinsured.
	68,000 preventable deaths per year.
	That's why we argued to force the vote.
	So that's her doing the super nice.
	That's the, I'm the bad cop.
	She's the good cop.
	This woman wonders, I wonder if AOC would be against this if it was Jimmy Doerr who was forcing a vote on impeachment.
	Well, it depends on whether I said fuck or not, I guess.
	So completely, but can I just say what this does?
	What this does, what her doing this, and she did this today.
	What this does is mean we were right.
	She did it yesterday.
	It was yesterday?
	Yes.
	What this means is we were right.
	That's what this means.
	That's what that means, that hashtag force to vote was right.
	Hashtag force to vote movement is completely vindicated.
	And anybody who was against hashtag force to vote is now, should be, should be held to account.
	Now, meaning all the Justice Democrats who didn't do it and then lied about why they didn't do it.
	Most of them didn't even comment on it.
	Nobody even forced Katie a porter or Road Con.
	Nobody had to comment on it.
	Nobody.
	The only one who commented on it was AOC, and she lied continuously.
	Lied.
	She didn't have bad answers.
	She was lying.
	Because this is the truth.
	I just want everyone to know 100% vindication of hashtag force to vote.
	That's what that was.
	Whatever she was intending to do there, she just stepped in it.
	That was a big screw-up.
	Okay.
	Numerous House Republicans have received death threats in the past week.
	And I know for a fact several members want to impeach, but fear casting that vote could get them and their families murdered.
	Not spinning or covering for anyone, just stating the chilling reality.
	She responds by saying, I get it, but some of us just spent the last two years taking stances that have led to repeat attempts on our lives for demanding guaranteed health care, immigrant justice, etc.
	What?
	What?
	Are you kidding me?
	She just said, but some of us just spent the last two years taking stances that have led to repeated attempts on our lives for demanding guaranteed health care.
	Not doing everything you can for Medicare for all.
	She didn't do anything.
	What are you talking about?
	What kind of gaslighting is this?
	She says, sorry if this lacks empathy, but it's a privilege if this is your first time.
	They can do one vote.
	Oh my God.
	She wouldn't even cross Nancy Pelosi to push hashtag force to vote for Medicare for All, something she ran on.
	She wouldn't even cross Nancy Pelosi and she wants these people to risk the threat of murder.
	Hey, can I say to you, AOC, not doing everything you can for Medicare for All, that lacks empathy.
	Here it is again.
	There it is the complete vindication.
	And can I just tell you all the stuff you saw around hashtag force to vote, the reason why this was such a big moment is because forcing a vote on Medicare for all is something that Nancy Pelosi said she was for in 1994.
	It's something that every one member of the Justice Democrats run on.
	It's something that AOC has been screaming about, saying make people uncomfortable, stop using polite language, make people uncomfortable.
	And then when it came to do it, they didn't do anything.
	And everybody started making crazy arguments.
	You saw that, right?
	You saw the intercept running interference for the squad for blocking a vote on Medicare for All.
	You saw that happen, right?
	You saw the crazy attacks I took from the DSA leadership, right?
	And here's, this is from World War II propaganda.
	This is from the United States playbook and how to do propaganda.
	And here, this is former, this is from the CIA, formerly the OSS.
	So I just want to tell you, so just say, does some of this stuff sound familiar?
	What happened over hashtag force to vote?
	This is called general interference with organizations and production.
	Organizations and conferences insist on doing everything through channels.
	Never permit shortcuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions.
	That sounds like what the DSA did.
	Do you remember they said, well, we're not set up.
	Really, you're not nimble enough.
	You had a whole month to organize your people to do a thing that's the centerpiece of your organizing handbook, which is forcing a vote on Medicare for all, and you weren't nimble enough to do that.
	Or does it sound like this?
	Make speeches.
	Talk as frequently as possible at great length.
	Illustrate your points by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
	Never hesitate to make a new appropriate patriotic, a few appropriate patriotic comments.
	Also, when possible, refer to all matters to committees for further study and consideration.
	Attempt to make the committees as large as possible, never less than five.
	Bring up an irrelevant issue as frequently as possible.
	Haggle over precise wordings of communications and minutes and resolutions.
	Haggle over, refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to reopen the question of the advisability of that decision.
	Also, advocate caution, be reasonable, and urge your fellow conference to be reasonable and to avoid haste, which might result in embarrassment or difficulties later on.
	Be worried about the propriety of such decision.
	Raise the question of whether such action is contemplated lies within the jurisdiction of the group or whether it might.
	Do you see this?
	I don't know, but call me crazy, but I just experienced every one of those things over hashtag force to vote.
	That was weird.
	And let me remind you what she says.
	Maybe we should just start voting on things based on whether we think it's right or not.
	And stop pretending that this shit's complicated.
	Because it's not.
	Like hashtag force to vote.
	And stop pretending that swear words make a New York bartender offended, especially when you're swearing right now.
	With the people?
	Were you with those, were you with that mob?
	She was with the mob of establishment people who are standing in between you and healthcare.
	That's the mob she stands with, just so you know.
	So I think this closes.
	By the way, sometimes we contradict ourselves.
	Sometimes we miss a huge opportunity, and sometimes we don't practice what we preach.
	Just so you know.
	And that's stunning what happened.
	That's stunning what she said.
	It was basically verbatim, word for word, what hashtag force to vote was for.
	So complete vindication for anybody who was for hashtag force to vote and complete condemnation for all the phonies and faux progressives who stood in the way of something that we all agreed on that we should be doing until the moment came.
	So the people at TYT, people like that, the leadership of the DSA, they have a lot of answering to do.
	They have a lot of answering to do because of what AO and anybody else who defended AOC in the squad for voting for Nancy Pelosi without extracting anything or forcing a vote, anybody who excused them is now in the hot seat and she just did it to you.
	You know why?
	Because she just validated our strategy.
	That's what this does.
	What does this do?
	This validates hashtag force to vote.
	And if you protected her, it throws you under the bus.
	So if you have a YouTube show or any kind of show and you've been protecting her and the squad for voting for Nancy Pelosi and using convoluted logic to do it like right like Ryan Grimm and the people at the intercept, this is throwing you under the bus.
	The person you've been running interference for, Ryan Grimm, AOC, just threw you under the bus.
	So the softball interviews that Jeremy Scahill did with AOC and the access journalism being practiced right at this moment by the intercept, a pothead YouTube comedian sees right through it and is calling you out.
	Guess what?
	Everyone else saw it too.
	Everyone else, Justin Jackson.
	So when Ryan Grimm comes out from the intercept to do interference for AOC over something this clear-cut, everybody ratios him on Twitter, but that's the price he has on mortgage.
	And this is the kind of journalism Ryan Grimm does.
	And now everybody knows that the intercept is completely compromised.
	And it's again, it's not hard to outdo journalists in America.
	It's easy.
	I do it whenever I fucking feel like it.
	Whenever I put my light somewhere, I do a better job than they do.
	It's, you know why?
	Because they're all compromised.
	They all have to work for a billionaire or they all have to get access to journalists.
	I don't do any of that shit, which is why this show is much better.
	And more people watch this show than read those pieces of shit outlets.
	That's why we get more views on a video about the DSA than they have fucking members.
	Because journalism is completely corrupted in the United States.
	And all the quote-unquote socialist organizations that were supposed to be pushing this were MIA and they were MIA on purpose.
	And now they have to answer to their own organization and their own members.
	That's what has to happen.
	And guess what?
	AOC is making it harder for them because she just threw them under the bus.
	And we're going to have our interview with Chris Hedges.
	And afterwards, I'm going to show you the mental gymnastics Ryan Grimm from the intercept had to do on Twitter today and how bad he got his ass dragged.
	It is hilarious.
	I guess being boring has protected Ryan Grimm most of his career, and it gave him a false sense of security.
	But that's been ripped up hard by hashtag force to vote.
	And a dumb guy like me has been able to reveal a boring guy like that.
	It's amazing.
	It's kind of amazing.
	Hey, David Axelrod is on the line.
	Hello.
	Hello, Jimmy.
	This is David Axelrod of the Axe Files.
	Senior political commentator at CNN.
	Author, analyst, believer, and proud father of Alan Axelrod, Axel Axelrod, Aaron Axelrod, Alex Axelod, and Rod Axelrod.
	Hey, David.
	I'm calling to urge you to keep up with this week's fast-moving events with the riveting MSNBC political analyst, John Heileman, proud big Apple resident and lover of great dames.
	Hey, I didn't know that about John Heilman.
	Sounds exciting.
	Thanks for telling me.
	Yes, David.
	Wait, I'm David.
	Yes, Jimmy.
	The Heilman mistake is transfixing and irresistible.
	A force to itself.
	Baby, you'll want to get Heiler with Heilman.
	And I'm just a delivery mechanism to do it.
	This week offers up a triple threat of getting the fix you need with all your rod cast addictions.
	So tie yourself off and get ready to wet your undies with Schmidt, Cheney, and Heilman.
	You managed to score Steve Schmidt, Liz Cheney, and John Heilman all in one week.
	Fucking A-Rise.
	Jimmy.
	The year was 1974.
	And Tyler Rimming around the old oak tree was rising to number one in the charts.
	Senior Republicans told President Nixon his support in the Senate had collapsed, forcing him to resign.
	Could Liz Cheney's announcement to impeach be a prelude to similar scenario?
	Find out on the next episode of the Axe Files called Prelude to a Similar Scenario.
	Say it with me, Jimmy.
	Prelude.
	You seem to be expanding your show portfolio.
	Yes, Jimmy.
	Together with my sons, Alan, Axel, Aaron, Alex, and Rod, we're the Axel Rod dynasty.
	So strap yourself down and prepare to get rail rotted on the next exciting episode of On the Nose with Steve Schmidt.
	An in-depth look at current events from the perspective of a fabled political operative with chronic sinus congestion and the inability to properly enunciate the letter King.
	Did he just say Clinton or was it Clinton?
	I dig deeper into the next on the nose.
	Steve Schmidt, That's quite a catch.
	As the celebrated Al Jolson once said, you ain't seen nothing yet because no topic is off limits on our next hacks on tap with special guests, Democratic dilettante Debbie Dingle.
	As a member of the Senate Subcommittee on Health, Democrat, Deborah Dingle, discussions are pragmatic and practical or pragmatical.
	Alternative proposal to Medicare for all dingle pairs.
	For the full TikTok, don't miss the next hacks on tap.
	David Axelrod, what would you like to see Joe Biden do within his first 100 days?
	Private benchmarks are essential, but public ones are treacherous, especially when you're inheriting a desultory process.
	Okay, but what exactly are you saying?
	Basically, I'll be happy if you just get through the first 30 days without calling anyone fat.
	Join me on my next rodcast, Dave's Caveman Diet: My Secret to Building the Biggest, Bestest, and Most Ripping 8-Man Abs in DC.
	Hiding your belt in the Belway with my special guest, Steve Cornaki.
	No one moves multimedia data around a whiteboard harder and faster than the Man People Magazine just called one of the sexiest men lies to review.
	Dingo, Cornaki, Cheney, Heilman, and Schmidt.
	This week, why not get your rod on with Dave?
	Guys, split now.
	Peace and love to your lady.
	Toodle.
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	Also with us today, very happy.
	We have a friend of the show, always happy to talk to our next guest.
	He's the host of the YouTube show Economic Update: Democracy at Work.
	He is the author of many books, including the most recent, The System is the Sickness, When Capitalism Fails to Save Us from Pandemics or Itself.
	And that book has a very handsome blurb from yours truly in it.
	Please welcome Richard Wolf, Professor Richard Wolf.
	Thanks for coming on.
	How are you?
	Very good.
	Thank you, Jimmy.
	I'm glad to be here.
	So tell us why capitalist systems are inadequate to handle a pandemic like this.
	Well, you know, they really don't have to be.
	If you had a commitment to let some agency, and it's usually the government, come in and mobilize the public and the private resources, you can do it.
	They did it in New Zealand pretty well.
	They did it in South Korea.
	They did it in Taiwan.
	They even did it in the People's Republic of China and Vietnam and Cuba.
	They did it in all kinds of places and had one thing in common: that they allowed or they respected the government enough to give it the room to mobilize resources, not just the public resources, but the private resources to deal with this virus as it was, a national, terrible, life or death emergency.
	A little bit like you sometimes see in war when they put together a society's public and private resources.
	We even did that in World War II.
	But what we have now in this country is a game in which the capitalist system, the private oligarchs that run our big businesses, have taught the American people for 70 years now to hate the government, to distrust the government.
	And look, there are plenty of reasons to do that.
	The government screws up.
	It's, after all, the same oligarchs who run that government.
	So, yeah, it is screwed up.
	But if you teach that the government isn't to be respected, isn't to be trusted, isn't to be allowed to do anything, if you make politicians fall all over themselves saying they won't be a politician, they won't be the leader of a government, then when you have a national emergency like the COVID virus, you're not going to be able to mobilize resources.
	And that's what we have.
	We weren't ready for this virus.
	We weren't prepared.
	Once it hit here, we couldn't contain it.
	And now we're not even able to roll out the vaccines in a proper way.
	And it's all because you haven't developed the capacity to deal with a crisis.
	Let me put it this way.
	When you evaluate an economic system like capitalism, you don't just evaluate it in quote-unquote normal times.
	Part of the evaluation is how does it handle a crisis?
	How does it handle the unusual, the unexpected, the irregular?
	And our system is demonstrating a total failure to handle this viral crisis.
	And to allow, at the same time that you're fighting a life and death viral crisis, to have another capitalist crash, a depression with tens of millions of people unemployed, to allow that to happen is a level of incompetence that only a system really on the downside of the up and down could possibly explain.
	So what people missed the first time this happened in 2008 was that there was not a rational response to this economic crash.
	Now, that wasn't caused by a virus, and that wasn't imposed by the government like this one is, but it was engineered by the capitalists and the government to happen.
	And so people didn't notice that the response to that one was that we just kicked everybody out of their house.
	There was Occupy Wall Street.
	The government crushed it.
	A Democratic government and Democratic mayors across the country crushed it.
	And so now here we are this time.
	The rest of the world is giving all their workers direct payments.
	Japan, 100% cash payments to every worker.
	The UK, 75%, 85%.
	Canada, the same thing.
	Plus, all those countries already have health care.
	We don't have even healthcare in the middle of a pandemic, and we got a one-time $1,200 payment.
	Why are the oligarchs resisting putting money into the pockets of workers whose businesses they are shutting down?
	That money would just get reabsorbed back up to the 1%.
	They would put it right back into the economy.
	FDR taught us that.
	If you put money into the pockets of workers, it goes right into the economy.
	It doesn't.
	So why would they be resisting this?
	Here's the irony, Jimmy, and you're absolutely right.
	It was the left wing.
	It was the unions, the socialists, the communists in the 1930s that forced the New Deal, that forced the Roosevelt administration to give people federal jobs, to pass Social Security, to pass unemployment compensation, to pass the first minimum wage.
	They forced it.
	And here's the irony.
	That's what saved us in the 1930s.
	That's what saved us from going in the fascist direction of a Germany or an Italy or a Spain.
	And the irony is after World War II, you crushed the left.
	and you've been crushing it for 70 years.
	So when the next big crisis comes right now, there is no left to force these things and the immediate greed of the big businesses, their need not to pay even a little bit of taxes.
	You know, when Roosevelt went to the businesses in the 30s, he said, you better give me tax money to do for the mass of people what they need, because if you don't, you won't have any wealth when this is over.
	So part with some of it to keep the rest of it.
	What's happening now is they don't think they have to, so they're not doing it.
	And this is going to, in the end, undercut them themselves.
	You know, I don't like to quote Karl Marx, but he did say 150 years ago that capitalism is full of these kinds of internal contradictions that will in the end knock it out of the box.
	So people.
	So when Donald Trump was elected, what the establishment and the establishment media decided to do and the Democratic Party and the entire establishment decided to do was pretend that didn't happen and to pretend that the reason why people voted for Donald Trump was that they didn't actually vote for him.
	It was Russia.
	And so consequently, they didn't address any of the reasons that went into that.
	And they said it was all about racism, even though we just got the same people elected a black guy president two times in a row.
	And then the same phenomenon was happening in Brexit, right?
	It was happening in the UK with Brexit.
	And of course, they blame that all on racism too.
	So they just don't, it doesn't seem like the oligarchy and the establishment media and either political party is coming to terms with the economic devastation that people are living in that is fueling this, correct?
	Like, so what happened last Wednesday at the Capitol, people, again, are dismissing the causes.
	What would you say were the causes of that?
	And are they similar to the causes of Brexit and Donald Trump's election?
	Absolutely.
	And let me drive it home just one step further beyond what you've said.
	When they let Mr. Trump become the candidate and let him become the president, he did the most amazing thing in the first year, 2017, that he was really the president.
	The one achievement, the only achievement of any importance was the enormous tax cut that was passed in December of 2017.
	Now, as an economist, I got to tell you, for the last 40 years before that tax cut, we have had a systematic redistribution of wealth and income from the bottom and the middle to the top.
	If ever there was a time when the richest people and the biggest corporations having come off the biggest boom the stock market had ever seen, there was no time in history when they less needed a major tax cut.
	And they got a major tax cut.
	This is a ruling class of capitalists that has no more any internal limit.
	They're not even listening.
	When Warren Buffett, one of them, tells them, hey, look, let's take it easy here, because if we don't, we're going to go one step too far and lose it all.
	He says that they don't care.
	They're not going to listen.
	They're not going to go there.
	They're pushing, they're pushing, they're pushing.
	They have no limits.
	And you're now beginning to see the disintegration of a system.
	They never learned the basic lesson.
	If you impoverish the mass of people, they will not be able to buy the goods and services your corporations produce.
	And therefore, you are in the end shooting yourself in the foot.
	But you know, they deny all of that.
	They have convinced themselves with, you know, the Republicans in the lead and unfortunately the Democrats following pretty lamely behind them that somehow the corporation is to be given whatever it needs and wants and it will all magically trickle down.
	It never did and it isn't doing it now.
	As to your point about 2008, absolutely.
	What happened after 2008 was an urgent goal by the Obama administration to get back to where the economy was before the crash of 2008.
	They didn't understand that getting back on that road was getting back on the road that led to 2008.
	And now you have the Biden administration basically saying, we want to get back to pre-Trump.
	Yeah, but pre-Trump is what produced Trump.
	And so you're going to create the opportunity for the next Trump, whoever that is, to come riding in on the same horse that brought Mr. Trump to us.
	So here in a way is the bottom line.
	I think the American working class in the whole 20th century, and by working class, I mean all the employees, everybody but the top one or two or 3% is in the class of employees.
	That mammoth class, white, black, male, female, east, west, north, south, that vast majority of people, they have been really whacked in the last 30 or 40 years.
	The 20th century, they were told capitalism is wonderful because it creates a huge middle class.
	You're going to have the American dream.
	You're going to live better than the parents you had and your children better than you and your grandchildren.
	And it's kind of the American dream, the American exceptionalism.
	We're in a place where that works.
	Well, you got people revved up and you gave them rising wages.
	The rich got richer, but some of it went to the masses.
	Starting in the 1970s, that stopped.
	And real wages have not gone anywhere in the last 40 years.
	The only way you could try to get the American dream was by doing something no generation had done before, going into debt on a scale no working class had ever seen.
	Mortgage debt, automobile debt, credit card debt, and student debt.
	It's overwhelming.
	And the joke is, if you ask where did the money come to lend to the consumer to buy all that crap, it's the extra profit that was made by not raising their wages.
	The money was coming back as a loan instead of a wage.
	And the working class, which should have been outraged by it, joined in the pretense that this ripoff wasn't happening.
	So people are bitter and they're angry and they're looking for somebody to help them.
	But the center, the Bushes, the Clintons, the Obamas, they're not going to help them.
	This is politics as usual.
	You're captured by your donors, the big corporations.
	And so when a bitter, angry man comes along and expresses some of the rage they all feel, Mr. Donald Trump, they go for him because not that he's attractive and not that he's going to solve a problem, but at least he sounds better than those other robots that didn't give you anything but bullshit most of the time, if you pardon my Spanish.
	Okay.
	And now some of them go over the edge and they go to Washington and they do crazy crap at the Capitol because they don't know where to take their anger.
	Voting for Mr. Trump got them exactly nothing.
	Fakery.
	They were told to take their anger and turn it against immigrants, poor people from Central America, or to take it against the Chinese, as if it were the Chinese that brought those companies and jobs over there rather than American corporations making more money by going to China.
	It's been a hustle all the way through.
	And I think we're seeing the end game now of a system that has impoverished people it promised to give a middle-class life to, and it doesn't know how to get out of the hole it has dug itself into.
	So I think one of the problems is that a lot of regular people, working people, think that capitalism occurred normal, spontaneously in nature.
	And they don't, they real, they think it was like, well, if you're for capitalism, you're for Jesus because Jesus rewards hard work and responsibility and socialism rewards laziness.
	And so that's of the devil and capitalism is of Jesus Christ.
	This is what people literally think.
	You know that's what people think.
	I don't have to tell you that, right?
	That's what we've been told capitalism equals democracy.
	That's what we also, these are all, this is all propaganda from capitalists.
	None of this is true.
	And so people can't even envision a world where they have control over their own life economically.
	They lack the imagination to even imagine a world in where the government provides healthcare to them in the middle of a pandemic.
	Like they can't even imagine it.
	And they see no one fighting for them in government.
	No one fighting for them, doing nothing.
	Even people like AOC and the squad just rolled over for them once again and elected Nancy Pelosi speaker without extracting anything and going against their own campaign promises of forcing a vote for healthcare, Medicare for all in the floor.
	They wouldn't do it.
	And they wouldn't do anything.
	So we're left with no one fighting for us.
	And this is what's going to cause social unrest.
	And if it doesn't, we're going to just slip into being like Brazil.
	So right now, during this crisis, the government is decimating one-third of the economy as a matter of policy.
	And they're closing down gyms and local businesses and restaurants and hair salons.
	But they're not doing that to Amazon or Best Buy or Walmart or Target.
	And so the money is being funneled upward.
	It's going away from the communities and it's being funneled up.
	So that's what we talk about as a transfer of wealth upward.
	So the money is no longer, for instance, in Los Angeles, Pavilion, one of the grocery store chains just fired all their union delivery people and they replaced them with DoorDash.
	Now, DoorDash is an app that's out of Silicon Valley.
	So every time someone uses that app, the money instead of going to a union worker and staying in their community is now being funneled up to somebody in another state or another city somewhere, a big corporation.
	So that's how you transfer wealth upward.
	So now every time someone in Los Angeles uses that DoorDash, what they're doing is bankrupting their own community and sending that money out of their community.
	And people don't realize that these are policy choices that politicians are making.
	And they're making these choices to fuck you and screw you economically while funneling that money upward to their donor class, which is why we saw in Los Angeles during the pandemic when the lockdown, when restaurants were told to lock down, movie companies were able to set up outside restaurants right across the street from restaurants and serve 100 people working on a movie production because that movie production is a donor to Gavin Newsom and all the politicians.
	And the bank that is financing that movie is a donor to Gavin Newsom and all the politicians.
	So that people see what's happening, but they just can't imagine a better world.
	How do we turn this crisis, which isn't an existential crisis, which is why I've been screaming about it since the CARES Act?
	This is an existential crisis.
	How do we turn this into a moment for the workers to rise up and take power again?
	Well, the best answer I can give is the following.
	If you look at the four years of Mr. Trump, here's what I think you get.
	There were three things that he accomplished, and every one of them is an opportunity for a left, if it understands itself, to take advantage of.
	Number one, he gave the richest businesses in America the biggest tax cut they have had in a long time at a time when they didn't need it.
	Number two, he deregulated the little bit of regulation there was to give them profits in yet another way because they could disregard labor protections or environmental protections or all the rest.
	That's what he had his cabinet do.
	And then as people's situation deteriorated because he didn't do anything to help anybody, you know, he promised to bring manufacturing back.
	It didn't happen.
	He promised to change the government wouldn't be in a deficit.
	That didn't happen.
	All the things he didn't happen.
	He's going to drain the swamp.
	He was going to drain the swamp and give everybody health care.
	He didn't do any of that stuff.
	Right.
	And so people got angrier and angrier.
	So then comes the third thing he did.
	He worked very good for the ruling class of this country by deflecting the anger that his own policies made worse by teaching them to hate immigrants, to hate the Chinese, to blame foreigners are cheating us like we are dummies and the Mexicans took advantage of us and the Canadians.
	I mean, unspeakable junk was coming out of his mouth.
	But he knew he had to deflect that anger somewhere.
	You need a left that does demonstrate in word and deed how it is going to really solve the problem.
	And let me be very concrete.
	Number one, and by the way, I don't expect the Biden administration to do this, but I think it's self-destructive for them if they don't.
	Number one, you immediately do what we did in the 1930s.
	You take the 26 million people now unemployed and you immediately hire them.
	The federal government hires them.
	And you know what we do with them?
	They will test everybody finally for this damn virus.
	And they will provide masks and they will make it possible for our children to go back to school because they'll have one teacher for every four students.
	So they'll have social distancing and they will continue the education, which for the majority of kids is now at best working half-time and what it should be.
	So, and they could green America and they can take care of elderly people.
	They can do the things we need and they will have a job and an income.
	That Mr. Trump didn't do.
	And if a new Democrat came in and did it, oh boy, would that change the conversation in a hurry, just like it did when Roosevelt did exactly that in the 1930s.
	So how?
	Number two, number two, besides the unemployment, solving that right away, no such thing as homelessness.
	In this country, we have the homeless people sitting across the street looking at the empty apartments and the empty houses.
	There is no excuse.
	No morality, no ethics, no religion sanctifies such behavior.
	And put those people into a home, find the homes, and put them in there, help them get it.
	And number three, develop a whole network of industries in this country where the enterprise is run democratically by the workers in it.
	So they decide together who gets paid, how much money.
	None of this, Jeffrey Bezos, with $200 billion, while tens of thousands, millions of workers are having enough money, give their kid a college education if they can afford it to overcome their so-called quote food insecurity, because we have these nice terms that cover for things like hunger.
	These could be done and they could be done in the first hundred days of a new administration and it would rewrite the politics of America.
	Here's my fear.
	If they don't do that, if they fiddle around the edges the way democratic regimes have been doing for decades, they are going to enable the next Trump to come in and make fun of them.
	They didn't solve your problem.
	I'm another rider in there on the big white horse.
	Vote for me.
	It's tragic.
	It's tragic.
	You know, the old joke, if we don't learn from the history we've just gone through, we will repeat it, only it'll be worse next time.
	So how do we, so it's obvious that we need a jobs program, just like you said, and just like FDR did when he became president.
	There is no left in America.
	I keep trying to tell people we just lived through the biggest organization.
	The DSA has almost 100,000 members.
	We just had a hashtag Force the Moment happen that comes out of their own manifesto and they snooze, they passed.
	So there is no left left in America.
	There isn't a left organization that's doing fucking anything because they've been decimated, like you said, after World War II.
	They got rid of the, with McCarthyism, they got rid of the communists, they got rid of the socialists.
	And even now, the people who consider themselves left, I think are all controlled opposition.
	They're just funneling this, all this rage and energy.
	Bernie Sanders and the DSA are funneling back into a corporate pro-war party that is fucking us and denying us healthcare in the middle of a pandemic and all the while focusing all your rage on Donald Trump instead of the system that gave us Donald Trump.
	So how do we make Joe Biden, what power, because there is no left organization that's worth a shit in America, the hashtag force to vote prove that.
	And half the independent media is also shit that hashtag force to vote proved that.
	How do we force a Democrat, Joe Biden, to do something to avoid getting another worse Trump?
	How do we make him give us a job program?
	Well, I think the only answer is already present in the way you've posed it, Jimmy.
	We have to build.
	I know this is frustrating, but we have to build the left.
	Let me remind you in the 30s, it wasn't Roosevelt who gave us the new deal.
	It was the CIO, the two socialist parties and the Communist Party working together, even though they had their fights and their disagreements.
	They worked together and they basically said to Franklin Roosevelt, and this is so important to understand, they went to him and they said to him, if you help us, you create social security, unemployment compensation, a minimum wage, and a government jobs program.
	If you do that, we will make you a hero and you will be president as he became three times in a row.
	You will be the most popular politician this country ever had.
	But here's the other theme that people don't want to remember.
	They also told him that if you don't do it, you won't be dog catcher anymore.
	You'll lose the next election because we won't vote for you.
	And Mr. Roosevelt was no stupid person.
	He understood.
	He was a smart politician.
	He knew exactly what he had to do.
	And he went back to the business community.
	After all, he was a Roosevelt.
	He came from that community.
	He knew them all.
	He went back to them and he said, this is the deal.
	If we give the mass of people a social security and unemployment, a minimum wage and government jobs, this system will survive.
	If we don't, they're going to make a revolution.
	And you fellas, you risk losing everything.
	Now, the lesson here, we have to have an organized left willing to make that kind of demand, organized so that demand is credible.
	You have to help us or else we won't go with you.
	Business as usual simply won't cut it anymore.
	That's our job.
	So, Professor, I hear what you're saying.
	There is no left in America making a demand of anybody.
	Even the organization, the Justice Democrats, are not asking their justice elected officials to do a goddamn thing.
	I just tried to get them to do what they fucking ran on, and half the left turned on me because they said my tone was too offensive to the politicians I was pressuring.
	There is no left, Richard.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	I don't know how we organize a left.
	I just tried to, and half the left came after me personally for actually trying to get a vote on hashtag force to vote, which every person runs on.
	And Nancy Pelosi ran on in 1994.
	So there is no left.
	I mean, there just isn't.
	I don't know what institutions are you talking about when you say we have to organize the left.
	Who the fuck are they?
	Well, I think, Jimmy, the only thing I would perhaps disagree with, I think there is a left.
	I think it's big.
	I think it's strong, but it is terribly disorganized.
	It doesn't understand organization.
	You know, for 70 years of the Cold War, 1945, basically to now, this, America has been a place more than any other place on earth In which any kind of left-wing collective action was persecuted, demonized.
	People learned on a visceral level.
	You know, deep in your soul, when you're not half conscious of it, don't go to that meeting.
	Don't go in that direction.
	It's dangerous.
	It's scary.
	It's going to come down on you.
	The government is, or your employer is, or people won't talk to you, or they won't like you and they'll yell at you.
	And we have to outgrow that.
	I mean, it's a serious problem.
	It has allowed American politics to get as far to the right.
	That's why we have a country, which is the only advanced country without proper national health care, the only advanced country that doesn't provide mandated maternal leave for people with babies.
	I mean, all the things that in other countries are taken for granted as basic human rights, we have been able not to have because people are too scared to get together.
	That's what we have to do.
	We have to enable the left that's there to overcome its anxiety about being organized and being tough and being forceful with the people that are on the other side.
	Good luck with that.
	Listen, how important is it?
	How important is the development of a major third party?
	Right now, I'm working with a bunch of people, Cornell West and Marion Williamson, and Nick Brana and Justin Jackson and people like that to start a third party, a people's party.
	And what I say our platform should be is whatever AOC is running on, we're going to run on that, except we're going to do, we're going to fight for this stuff.
	They're not actually doing anything.
	They're rolling over at nuclear speed for the establishment.
	We're actually going to do what they're running on.
	So how important do you think it?
	Because every time a progressive goes into the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party changes them.
	They don't change the party.
	We got Nancy Pelosi again.
	It's the same shit.
	They're never going to get a Medicare for all vote.
	They can't even get a thousand.
	They can't even get a UBI in the middle anyway.
	So how do we start a third party and how important is it that we do that?
	I'm very strongly in favor of doing that.
	Again, I may disagree with you in the sense I'm willing to work with the left wing of the Democratic Party, but only if there is also outside of the Democratic Party, a third party that is able and willing to say things that folks inside the Democratic Party, for whatever reason, are hesitant to do.
	I don't think it's an easer, either, or.
	I think we go on every track we can.
	If there are those of us who can fight on a third party and bring these issues to the fore in a sharp way, we definitely should do that.
	If there are people who want to work inside the Democratic Party because they believe they can move it closer to what we are doing, more power to them.
	I would expect, because this has happened, for example, recently in Germany, that the left wing of the Socialist Party and the people who were to their left, they finally merged.
	Those people quit the Socialist Party.
	They are called in Germany the left party, but you could see how and why over time they came together to be a third party.
	I don't see any reason why that kind of development could not happen in this country.
	But those of us that are ready to go further than those in the Democratic Party should be free to do that.
	And we should be as welcoming, we should be as much welcomed by them and the Democratic Party as we recognize what they are trying to do over there.
	Don't fight each other.
	Figure out how we can each do something, which in the end, we may be able to come together to do.
	If the people who get elected as progressives in the Democratic Party, they're going to face enormous institutional pressure to move right.
	And so they have been.
	Yes, that happens.
	So how do we, what is the mechanism?
	That's very typical.
	Yeah.
	And so my thing was I was shaming them for doing that.
	And everybody said, you can't do that.
	You have to be nice to them.
	You have to work with them.
	I'm like, well, what is the mechanism we use when they don't work with us, but they work with the establishment?
	What is the mechanism we use to hold them accountable if I can't shame them and out them for going against their fucking campaign, their own campaign?
	What is the mechanism?
	I mean, it's like the, I would love to work with the Justice Democrats.
	They're not working with us.
	They're not following their own campaign promises.
	What am I supposed to do?
	Well, I mean, you have to keep up the pressure.
	I mean, I can't tell you what to do, Jimmy, but you have to keep up the pressure.
	They have to hear that there's going to be criticism.
	You know, you can make your criticism as somebody who wants to win them over, or you can make your criticism as a dismissal.
	Look, you're absolutely right.
	One of the institutional pressures on people in the Democratic Party, and I've spent some time in my life working in the Democratic Party, just between you and me, but those people are under institutional pressure to not be a third party, to not work with the third party.
	And they're partly susceptible to that.
	But that doesn't mean we give up.
	We keep going and we make it hard in a way for them because their hearts are in many cases going to be with us and they're going to be pushing against some of that institutional pressure because they can see that we're having an effect.
	So we can affect them just as they affect us.
	And hopefully, if we're good at it, we can figure out a way to get together.
	So I just want, I have a bet with someone, and I just want to know if you could clear this up.
	Who would you want to play you in the biopic, El Pacino or Russell Crowe?
	Pacino.
	Ah, I lost.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Damn it.
	All right.
	Great question.
	Now, your name is Dr. Richard Wolfe.
	Are you related to the famous Jungian psychologist, Tony Wolf?
	No.
	Tony Wolf?
	I have a distant relationship.
	I usually don't say this, but I want to say it.
	And so you can enjoy it.
	If you open the first volume of Karl Marx's major work, Capital, just the first volume, there is a dedication in there to his good friend and the noble protagonist of the proletariat.
	I kid you not.
	And that man's name is Wilhelm Wolf, spelled just like mine.
	And yes, it is a distant relative of my family.
	Oh, my God.
	That is fantastic.
	Oh, my God.
	All right.
	I just thought that's one of those little gossipy tidbits.
	You're the first.
	I don't tell this to people much, but, you know, every now and then I tell my students because they enjoy it.
	I enjoyed that very much.
	Thanks for sharing that with our audience.
	And so let me just ask you one last question.
	How in touch are you with your anima?
	With my anima, do you know what that is?
	If you don't, it's okay.
	Oh, okay.
	It sounded like something you can't talk about on television.
	No, it's in Jungian psychology.
	It's the female hidden shadow aspect in your unconscious.
	Anyway, I should tell you that I am married to a psychotherapist, and so I have all my life.
	By the way, I got married when I was 23, and I'm still married to the same woman and very happy about it.
	But she's a psychotherapist, and I have been getting therapy whether I wanted it or not all my life.
	Okay, oh, I'm sorry, one more dog or cat.
	So you like dogs or are you dog or cat person?
	I'm a dog person.
	All right.
	There you go.
	I won that one.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	All right.
	Dr. Richard Wolf, I really appreciate you taking time.
	Any closing words you want to give to anybody?
	I think that people like you with the show you have are doing an enormously important service.
	It doesn't matter that occasionally people like or don't like, agree or don't agree.
	What you're doing is it's not the topic and it's not even your position.
	It's your way of thinking that comes across to people.
	The way you approach an issue, the way you frame a question.
	Much more important than the particular answers we give.
	It's another way of thinking.
	It's an openness to being critical, to asking about an alternative future.
	That's what is changing America, and it couldn't be more important.
	So thank you for inviting me, but I want to thank you for having the kind of program and the kind of courage you show.
	Whether or not we agree on everything is really secondary.
	Well, I really appreciate that.
	Super flattering to come from someone like you.
	And, you know, the work you're doing is amazing.
	Also, I don't want to turn this into one of those things, but thank you.
	So thank you so much.
	I'll take the compliment.
	And everybody, check out Dr. Richard Wolfe's show, Economic Update, Democracy at Work on YouTube.
	Check out his book, The System is the Sickness When Capitalism Fails to Save Us from Pandemics or Itself.
	And we'll see him back here, I'm sure, soon.
	Dr. Richard Wolfe, thank you very much.
	Thank you, Jimmy.
	I look forward if we talk again in the future.
	Okay.
	Hello.
	Hi, folks.
	Guess who this is?
	Is it former President Barack Obama?
	On the nose, Bonzo.
	It's me, Barack in your fucking face, Obama, with some more helpful household tips and advice for living the good life in a thriving democracy.
	Now, sit your big ass down and listen for a second while I impart some wisdom onto your ungrateful skulls.
	It's reassuring to hear from you, Mr. President.
	I know.
	But before I continue, what's been going on lately?
	Michelle and I have been busy with our Netflix stuff.
	You know how it is?
	Well, some Trump supporters tried to take over the Capitol building.
	Yeah.
	What's the deal with that?
	Have you seen these people?
	Guys, take a break.
	Ladies, I'm not letting you off too easy either.
	Jesus Christ.
	That so reminds me of comedy when I started.
	We were hoping you could tell us something since you were president for eight years.
	Hey, I'm a shock.
	Does anyone buy this, Jimmy?
	Seriously, I never saw this coming during my eight years of leadership.
	Who could have predicted 50 years of class hatred, eating Wall Street shit, and rising mortality rates would help radicalize half the population and propel the simplest brain racist into the White House?
	And the same goes for Trump.
	What did you just say?
	Hey, you know, there's a lot more to that phone call, but we don't have time in today's podcast.
	How do you hear the entire phone call?
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	Today's show is written by Ron Placone, Mark Van Landowitz, Steph Zamorano, Jim Earl, Mike McRae, and Roger Rittenhouse.
	All the voices performed today by the one and the only of the inimitable, Mike McRae, who can be found at MikeMcRae.com.
	That's it for this week.

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