Jimmy Dore Show - 20150317_3-18-15
Aired: 2015-03-17
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[00:00:16]  Hi, let's get right to the letter by Tom Cotton.
[00:00:22]  First of all, welcome to this week's premium content.
[00:00:25]  I'm anxious to talk about things.
[00:00:28]  Yes, so welcome.
[00:00:29]  We've got a good one.
[00:00:30]  We're going to talk about Ben Carson coming up.
[00:00:32]  We got a phone call from Bill Cosby.
[00:00:35]  And the letter, everyone's going crazy about it.
[00:00:39]  Correct me if I'm wrong.
[00:00:40]  They say they keep referring to they sent it to the leader of Iran.
[00:00:45]  I don't think so.
[00:00:46]  I think they just posted it to Tom Cotton's website.
[00:00:49]  I'm trying to, I've looked all over.
[00:00:51]  I can't get confirmation, but as far as I can tell, they didn't put a stamp on it and send it to the leader of Duran, of Iran.
[00:01:01]  So unless the leader of Iran, Rouhani, I think that's how you say his name, is a regular reader of Tom Cotton's website.
[00:01:13]  I don't think it's that big of a deal.
[00:01:15]  But it's for the first time ever.
[00:01:18]  Here's the good news is it seems like the Democrats have been able to spin something in their favor.
[00:01:23]  So, I mean, this is, I think this might be much ado about nothing.
[00:01:29]  So, but it's the Democrats are so inept that they can't even spend giving health care to people in their favor.
[00:01:39]  That's still a negative for them.
[00:01:43]  Anyway, so that's how I feel about the Iran letter.
[00:01:49]  I think that the Republicans, you know, who signed it wanted, of course, it's just to whip up their base.
[00:01:58]  Look, I'm spitting in Obama's face again.
[00:02:01]  I'm standing up because that's how you get your bona fides.
[00:02:04]  And that's why it was Tom Cotton's idea because he's new to the Senate because that's how you earn your wings, right?
[00:02:10]  These days.
[00:02:11]  And as a conservative, you've got to kick a little sand in Barack Obama's face.
[00:02:18]  And that's what this was.
[00:02:19]  So that's, please, these are all my theories.
[00:02:22]  You're welcome to please share your theories with me and everyone else.
[00:02:27]  Okay, so let's get to this week's show.
[00:02:31]  What's coming up?
[00:02:33]  And of course, by the way, in the letter, you knew in the Tom Cotton letter, the open letter to Iran that wasn't sent to Iran.
[00:02:43]  They said that we were wanting to inform the Iranian government that the Senate must ratify all treaties by a two-thirds vote.
[00:02:50]  That is not correct.
[00:02:52]  Now, I don't want to get into the weeds and reap and quote you because I just did that and I read for like three minutes and I couldn't even understand it at reading it.
[00:03:02]  So I was going to explain it that the Senate doesn't actually ratify the treaty.
[00:03:07]  What the Senate does is they advise and consent to the treaty.
[00:03:11]  But they, when they get a look at a tree, they send it to the president and the president actually is the one who ratifies the treaty.
[00:03:20]  Or if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to ratify it.
[00:03:24]  But it's the president, right?
[00:03:25]  So it's up to him.
[00:03:26]  He negotiates it.
[00:03:28]  He negotiates it, sends it to the Senate.
[00:03:33]  The Senate advises and consents.
[00:03:36]  And then the president ratifies it or he doesn't.
[00:03:38]  So that's the way it works, which sounds, I didn't know that.
[00:03:41]  I didn't know that's how it worked.
[00:03:43]  So good thing that Tom Cotton wrote that letter that means nothing that he didn't even send to the Iranian government.
[00:03:51]  He just posted at his web, an open letter to the, I think people are really overreacting to it and really making too much of it.
[00:04:00]  So that's what I think about that.
[00:04:02]  Okay.
[00:04:03]  So what's coming up on this week's premium content?
[00:04:07]  We got Ben Carson in the spotlight, sat down with Chris Cuomo over at CNN.
[00:04:15]  One of the N stands for news.
[00:04:17]  That's correct.
[00:04:18]  So they had a conversation and Ben Carson got to tell us that he thinks how gay people are made, that they choose it.
[00:04:28]  And proof is that when sometimes people come out of prison, they're gay.
[00:04:35]  Yes, I know.
[00:04:36]  I think maybe it, Jim, you just tipped it.
[00:04:39]  Yeah, whatever.
[00:04:39]  I don't want to bury the lead.
[00:04:40]  That's the lead.
[00:04:41]  Now we're going to get to the rest of it.
[00:04:43]  And then we have a phone call from Bill Cosby.
[00:04:46]  We're going to wrap it up with that.
[00:04:48]  Okay, so let's get to that.
[00:05:47]  Okay, so there's a guy.
[00:05:49]  Now, Ted, I want to ask you about, there's a guy named Ben Carson.
[00:05:52]  He's a black guy.
[00:05:52]  He's a brain surgeon.
[00:05:54]  And he's running for the Republican.
[00:05:57]  Does your race want to claim him?
[00:05:59]  Does your race want to claim him?
[00:06:00]  How do black people feel about Ben Carson?
[00:06:02]  Where is he from?
[00:06:03]  What state is he from?
[00:06:04]  I think he's from, I don't know, maybe a Carolina, maybe a Virginia.
[00:06:07]  I don't know.
[00:06:08]  Where is he from?
[00:06:08]  Look it up.
[00:06:09]  Go ahead.
[00:06:10]  You know, for me, I can't speak for all black people, but for me, where he's coming from is going to determine how I feel about him.
[00:06:18]  Oh, really?
[00:06:18]  More than any dumb thing he says.
[00:06:19]  His geography means more than...
[00:06:24]  I can tell you his bona fides, Yale undergraduate.
[00:06:27]  John Hopkins, I think he works at now.
[00:06:30]  He worked at Johns Hopkins.
[00:06:31]  I can't remember where he got his medical degree, but he was, I mean, he was like a professor and a neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins.
[00:06:37]  But when he was at John Hopkins, he was the valet.
[00:06:40]  He wasn't actually.
[00:06:42]  I'm asking.
[00:06:44]  No, he was.
[00:06:45]  I'm sorry.
[00:06:45]  So here's what he said.
[00:06:47]  Ted got mad at me for that joke.
[00:06:49]  Here's what he said.
[00:06:51]  I think I got madder at you for that joke.
[00:06:53]  We're making fun of Ben Carson.
[00:06:54]  It's okay.
[00:06:56]  What did he fucking say?
[00:06:57]  Ah!
[00:07:03]  For the love of God, just get to the stew.
[00:07:05]  I know he said something stupid and horrible about gay people.
[00:07:08]  So they asked Ben Carson about gay people, and he said this.
[00:07:14]  He's on with Chris Cuomo, by the way.
[00:07:16]  Chris Cuomo kind of did a kind of a good job.
[00:07:18]  So I'm going to kudos to Chris Cuomo.
[00:07:20]  He asked him the things that I would have asked.
[00:07:22]  He just did it in a little softer way.
[00:07:24]  And he was born in Detroit, Michigan.
[00:07:26]  Oh, he's born in Detroit, Michigan, Ben Carson.
[00:07:28]  He should know better, right?
[00:07:29]  He should fucking know better.
[00:07:30]  Yeah, okay.
[00:07:31]  I agree.
[00:07:31]  What an asshole.
[00:07:32]  He's a Seventh-day Adventist minister as well.
[00:07:35]  Well, okay, there's a setback there.
[00:07:37]  There's your setback, right?
[00:07:38]  Let's just be clear.
[00:07:39]  The problem with Ben Carson is not that he's black.
[00:07:44]  No, it's that he's batshit crazy.
[00:07:46]  Yes, he is.
[00:07:46]  So here's Chris Cuomo asking him, how does he feel?
[00:07:49]  How would you deal with gay marriage?
[00:07:51]  And here's what he says.
[00:07:53]  Okay, and I'm just going to go ahead and break in here because this is fascinating to me who Ben Carson is.
[00:08:00]  So the whole deal, yes, he was born in Detroit, Michigan.
[00:08:04]  His parents were Seventh-day Adventists.
[00:08:07]  And his father was a minister.
[00:08:11]  And his parents were from Georgia.
[00:08:14]  When he was eight years old, his parents divorced.
[00:08:18]  And he and his 10-year-old brother, Curtis, were raised by their mother.
[00:08:22]  So in an autobiography that he wrote, he said that in his youth, he had a violent temper.
[00:08:28]  And once, when he was in ninth grade, he nearly stabbed a friend during a fight over a radio station.
[00:08:36]  Instead, he broke the knife blade.
[00:08:39]  After that, he began reading the book of Proverbs, applying verses on anger.
[00:08:44]  And thereafter, he said he never had another problem with his temper.
[00:08:50]  Wow.
[00:08:51]  And so there you go.
[00:08:52]  The Bible did some good for him.
[00:08:54]  He attended Southwestern High School in Southwest Detroit, where he excelled in J-R-O-T-C.
[00:09:03]  Is that how you say it?
[00:09:04]  Or is it Junior R-OTC?
[00:09:06]  That's J-R-T.
[00:09:07]  Junior.
[00:09:07]  Okay.
[00:09:09]  He quickly rose in rank and was offered a West Point scholarship.
[00:09:17]  That's incredible.
[00:09:20]  You have to get a letter from your congressman.
[00:09:22]  Anyway, he then went to Yale University where he graduated and he majored in Get Ready for This Psychology.
[00:09:34]  Psychology was his major at Yale.
[00:09:38]  Yet he's a yet he is a black conservative, which to me is how do we say it?
[00:09:46]  It's a mental illness they haven't yet named or identified.
[00:09:52]  Okay, so he then he got his MD from the University of Michigan Medical School.
[00:09:58]  So here's where it gets really good.
[00:10:02]  He was a professor of neurosurgery, oncology, plastic surgery, and pediatrics.
[00:10:10]  And he was the director of pediatric neurosurgery, the director of pediatric neurosurgery at John Hopkins Hospital.
[00:10:25]  That sounds impressive, no?
[00:10:28]  Sounds impressive to me.
[00:10:30]  Well, here, wait, I guess the kicker, here's the kicker.
[00:10:38]  At age 33, he became the youngest major division director in the hospital's history as director of pediatric neurosurgery at the age of 33.
[00:10:51]  He became the director of pediatric neurosurgery.
[00:10:55]  He was also a co-director of the John Hopkins Cranofacial Center.
[00:11:03]  I mean, this guy is a heavyweight.
[00:11:07]  He is a giant, this guy.
[00:11:10]  He specializes in traumatic brain injuries, brain and spinal cord tumors, echandroplasia, whatever that is, neurological and congenital disorders, craniosynestosis, epilepsy, and trigeminal neuralgia.
[00:11:30]  This is pretty good, by the way.
[00:11:31]  I'm doing a good job.
[00:11:34]  Talking about big brains.
[00:11:36]  Carson, he believes that his hand-eye coordination and three-dimensional reasoning made him a gifted surgeon.
[00:11:49]  Wow.
[00:11:52]  Anyway, so he's a big deal.
[00:11:55]  Oh, here's the here's in 1987.
[00:11:59]  He successfully separated conjoined twins, the binder twins, who had been joined at the back of the head.
[00:12:09]  They're called craniopagus twins, cranio craniop, craniopagus twins.
[00:12:17]  The 70-member surgical team was led by Carson.
[00:12:23]  70-member surgical team led by Carson and 70 and worked for 22 hours.
[00:12:33]  The twins were separated and both survived.
[00:12:38]  Wow.
[00:12:42]  So here's and here's a crazy story about that.
[00:12:45]  I think this is interesting.
[00:12:46]  I think it's worth talking about.
[00:12:51]  One time Ben Carson was interviewed, and during that interview, he said, I was talking to a friend of mine who was a cardiothoracic surgeon who was the chief of the division.
[00:13:01]  And I said, you guys operate on the heart in babies.
[00:13:06]  How do you keep them from zanguanguating?
[00:13:09]  I don't know how to pronounce that word, but he asked, that's the question he asked his friend.
[00:13:14]  How do you keep the babies when you operate on their heart?
[00:13:17]  How do you keep them from ex-sanguinating?
[00:13:21]  So it's spelled E-X-S-A-N-G-U-I-N-A-T-I-N-G.
[00:13:27]  And he says, his friend says, well, we put them in a hypothermic arrest.
[00:13:33]  And I said, is there any reason that if we were doing a set of Siamese twins that were joined at the head, that we couldn't put them into a hypothermic arrest at the appropriate time?
[00:13:44]  And we're likely to lose when we're likely to lose a lot of blood.
[00:13:48]  And my friend said, no, there's no reason.
[00:13:51]  And I said, wow, this is great.
[00:13:52]  Then I said, why am I putting time into this?
[00:13:55]  I'm not going to see any Siamese twins.
[00:13:58]  So he totally just has this thought.
[00:14:01]  He asks his friend, who's a thoracic surgeon about, hey, if you had two conjoined twins, would you do this?
[00:14:09]  Kind of randomly comes up.
[00:14:11]  Get this.
[00:14:12]  And then he says to himself, why am I putting time into this?
[00:14:15]  I'm not going to see any Siamese twins.
[00:14:17]  So I kind of forgot about it.
[00:14:19]  And lo and behold, two months later, along come these doctors from Germany presenting this case of Siamese twins.
[00:14:27]  And I was asked for my opinion.
[00:14:29]  And then I began to explain the techniques that should be used and how we would incorporate hypothermic arrest.
[00:14:35]  And everybody said, wow, that sounds like it might work.
[00:14:39]  And my colleagues and I, a few of us, went over to Germany.
[00:14:42]  We looked at the twins.
[00:14:43]  We actually put in scalp expanders.
[00:14:46]  And five months later, we brought them over and did the operation.
[00:14:50]  And lo and behold, it worked.
[00:14:54]  That's just a crazy, first of all, that this guy is so gifted.
[00:14:58]  A, and then he has this random conversation.
[00:15:00]  Why would he even think to bring so that's why, although I know I say I'm not, I'm not religious and I don't believe, but there certainly is many other ways of, there are things, there are things we'll never comprehend about, you know, reality, existence, consciousness, ways of knowing.
[00:15:21]  So that's, is that a coinky dink?
[00:15:25]  Is that anyway?
[00:15:29]  That's that's wild.
[00:15:30]  I don't know what that is, but it's wild.
[00:15:33]  So get this.
[00:15:35]  It goes, it gets even better.
[00:15:36]  Ben Carson, he figured in the revival of the hemispherectomy, a drastic surgical procedure in which part or all of one hemisphere of the brain is removed to control severe pediatric epilepsy.
[00:15:53]  He refined, he, Ben Carson, refined the procedure in the 80s.
[00:16:05]  And he performed it many times.
[00:16:08]  He refined the procedure of taking a hemisphere of a baby's brain and removing it.
[00:16:15]  Wow.
[00:16:20]  He's accomplished this guy.
[00:16:23]  He's a member of the American Academy of Achievement, whatever that is.
[00:16:27]  I guess I've not achieved enough to know.
[00:16:30]  I guess if I was really achieved, I would know.
[00:16:34]  And he is the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans.
[00:16:40]  He's a member of that.
[00:16:43]  And in 2000, he received the award for greatest public service benefiting the disadvantaged.
[00:16:52]  That's an award given out annually by Jefferson Awards.
[00:16:56]  In 2008, the White House awarded Ben Carson the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor.
[00:17:05]  And in 2010, he was elected into the National Academy of Sciences Institute of Medicine.
[00:17:13]  Wow.
[00:17:14]  He's been awarded 38 honorary doctorate degrees and dozens of national merit citations.
[00:17:21]  In 2014, an American poll conducted by Gallup marked Ben Carson sixth on the list of the most admired men in the world.
[00:17:32]  This is unbelievable to me about this guy.
[00:17:35]  Yes.
[00:17:38]  This is fast.
[00:17:40]  To me, I'm fascinated.
[00:17:43]  And he wrote a he wrote a best-selling book, but it was kind of a Christian media published from a, so I don't really count those.
[00:17:55]  I don't know why.
[00:17:56]  So that was a bestseller, but I don't count those.
[00:17:59]  I don't know why.
[00:18:00]  That's not fair of me.
[00:18:01]  That's me being unfair, but I just think like there's a built-in audience.
[00:18:06]  You know, you're not.
[00:18:09]  Say, well, you write a political book.
[00:18:10]  There's a built-in audience.
[00:18:12]  It's not the same.
[00:18:14]  Right?
[00:18:14]  Am I right?
[00:18:15]  Okay.
[00:18:17]  right um But he wrote a book.
[00:18:30]  His book called Gift in Hands, the Ben Garson's story.
[00:18:36]  Cuba Gooding Jr.
[00:18:45]  Was in that movie.
[00:18:47]  I think he portrayed, yes, the Carson's book titled Gift in Hands, The Ben Carson Story, was released by Zondervan.
[00:18:56]  I guess that's publishers in 1992.
[00:18:59]  A separate television movie with the same title premiered on TNT on February 7th, 2009, with Cuba Gooding Jr. in the lead role and Kimberly Elise portraying his mother.
[00:19:14]  Wow.
[00:19:18]  Anyway, that's that's wow.
[00:19:22]  That's wild.
[00:19:23]  It is.
[00:19:24]  Okay, so now back to, I just wanted to stop and give you all of Ben Carson's bona fides and let you know all about it.
[00:19:32]  That's remarkable to me.
[00:19:34]  It really is.
[00:19:35]  Okay, let's get so now let's get back to our conversation.
[00:19:39]  Here's what I would do.
[00:19:40]  I would do what the Constitution says.
[00:19:42]  Constitution says civil issues of that nature should be determined at the state level.
[00:19:48]  Why does it say that?
[00:19:50]  Because the judicial system at the state level has to answer to the people.
[00:19:55]  Yeah, just like with Jim Crow.
[00:19:56]  Remember how the states fixed that all by themselves?
[00:19:59]  Oh, I guess they didn't.
[00:20:00]  I guess the federal government remember how so if the states say it, a black guy should know better, right?
[00:20:06]  If the states say, that's why you wouldn't be able to vote if it wasn't for the Voting Rights Act.
[00:20:10]  The federal government had to come in and run your state.
[00:20:13]  History will show in America when the federal law steps in, it's usually because the states have ass fucked the situation beyond repair.
[00:20:22]  And by the way, anytime you hear anybody saying states' rights, it's 100% guaranteed they're defending some horrible thing.
[00:20:31]  Yes, it turns out, well, you know what?
[00:20:33]  I make the state's rights argument for medical marijuana.
[00:20:36]  Boom.
[00:20:37]  So it's starting to, it's funny, though.
[00:20:40]  It's like they're here.
[00:20:42]  Here's what he hears.
[00:20:42]  So he asked them this question.
[00:20:44]  Chris Cuomo says, what about Jim Crow?
[00:20:46]  What if people of the state vote for a law 100 to zero that winds up infringing on the rights of a minority, like happened very often with slavery, like many would argue is happening now with people who are gay.
[00:20:58]  And our Constitution was followed and we corrected those things.
[00:21:04]  Yeah, that's what we're doing now.
[00:21:05]  We're following our Constitution and we're correcting those things.
[00:21:09]  What do you think we're doing?
[00:21:10]  Following Paraguay's Constitution?
[00:21:12]  We're following our Constitution and we're correcting those things.
[00:21:16]  But by the way, we had to have a war to correct those things.
[00:21:19]  Oh, that's right.
[00:21:20]  We have to have the most bloody war in the history of this country.
[00:21:24]  That's right.
[00:21:25]  Oh, yeah.
[00:21:26]  Oh, that's right.
[00:21:26]  There was a little thing called the Civil War that happened over that.
[00:21:29]  That's right.
[00:21:30]  And all of those states had to be removed from the picture when we were voting on the amendment to correct those things.
[00:21:40]  So here's what Ben Carson, Chris Cuomo pushes back a little bit more.
[00:21:44]  Isn't that what's happening right now?
[00:21:47]  Isn't that what's happening right now?
[00:21:48]  Just what we said, isn't the Constitution working and they're changing this?
[00:21:51]  Same sex marriage is being corrected as a form of violation of equal protection.
[00:21:54]  No, you can't just say because it happened that way this time.
[00:21:58]  This is the same situation.
[00:21:59]  It's not the same situation.
[00:22:00]  It's not the same situation because gays make me creep me out.
[00:22:04]  That's why.
[00:22:05]  Slavery was a choice, wasn't it?
[00:22:06]  Yeah.
[00:22:09]  Well, you could choose to run away.
[00:22:11]  Yeah.
[00:22:12]  So how is this?
[00:22:14]  So here, here we go.
[00:22:15]  How is it different when people discriminated against blacks?
[00:22:18]  I mean, now they're discriminating against gays.
[00:22:20]  How is it different?
[00:22:21]  Ben Carson's going to tell you right now, Ted.
[00:22:24]  Because people have no control over their race, for instance.
[00:22:30]  You think they have control over their sexuality?
[00:22:32]  Absolutely.
[00:22:34]  Yes, yes.
[00:22:34]  And I'm a surgeon.
[00:22:36]  So Ben Carson, I have no problem he thinks that gays have a choice in being gay because he's a brain surgeon who chose to be a fucking idiot.
[00:22:43]  There you go.
[00:22:44]  You know, Ben Carson single-handedly made me not impressed with brain surgery.
[00:22:53]  He's killed though.
[00:22:54]  You can't say, oh, he's no brain surgeon.
[00:22:58]  Yeah, he's ruined that now.
[00:23:00]  Ben Carson has ruined that.
[00:23:03]  Yeah.
[00:23:03]  Did he operate on his own brain, by the way?
[00:23:05]  Because that's what's on.
[00:23:06]  He goes on.
[00:23:07]  He goes on, Frank.
[00:23:08]  You think being gay is a choice?
[00:23:09]  Absolutely.
[00:23:10]  Why do you say that?
[00:23:11]  Because a lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight, and when they come out, they're gay.
[00:23:17]  So did something happen while they were in there?
[00:23:19]  Yeah, what happened was they got raped by men who were bigger than them.
[00:23:23]  And people don't come out of prison gay.
[00:23:27]  People, they go, oh, you're in prison?
[00:23:28]  Oh, you're gay, I bet.
[00:23:29]  No, you come out of prison trying to forget what happened in prison.
[00:23:33]  What the fuck went wrong?
[00:23:34]  What you did to survive.
[00:23:37]  No, I think that what he means is that men come out of prison thinking, oh, man, it sucks that nobody's going to rape me anymore.
[00:23:48]  And by the way, prison theater would be much better if that's the case.
[00:23:52]  If they were actually gay.
[00:23:53]  You know, what's funny is that I know a lot of gay people who've never been to prison.
[00:23:57]  How did they become gay?
[00:23:58]  Yeah, that's a good question.
[00:24:00]  So the question that Chris Cuomo didn't ask.
[00:24:02]  Well, here, he's got, is that, well, he, Chris Cuomo, asked him one more thing.
[00:24:06]  Let's listen.
[00:24:07]  Ask yourself that question.
[00:24:08]  Never go to prison.
[00:24:09]  And you know there's a whole theory of dominance.
[00:24:11]  Wait a minute.
[00:24:11]  I said a lot of people who go in, come out.
[00:24:14]  Are you denying that that's true?
[00:24:17]  Yeah, I'm denying it's true.
[00:24:19]  He says to Chris Cuomo, I'm saying a lot of people, not all of them.
[00:24:21]  I'm saying, so he's just basically using, pulling stuff out of his bunghole.
[00:24:26]  This is not a study, like you said, Robert.
[00:24:28]  Do you have any empirical evidence?
[00:24:30]  Have you guys studied this?
[00:24:30]  How many people go in straight, come out gay?
[00:24:33]  You're a clinician.
[00:24:34]  Do you have anything clinical to back that up?
[00:24:36]  Well, the only gay factor that I would say in regards to prison is not that you come out gay, but it's the person that keeps getting re-arrested and going back to prison.
[00:24:44]  The repeat offender might be the person you might want to interview.
[00:24:47]  You mean the guy who keeps going back?
[00:24:50]  Yeah, this is my surgeon.
[00:24:51]  He's shaking his lips.
[00:24:52]  I'm going back.
[00:24:53]  That's the guy you want to talk to.
[00:24:55]  He's the one you want to interview.
[00:24:56]  I want to get back with Tyrone.
[00:24:58]  So listen, listen to how he pushes.
[00:25:00]  So listen to how.
[00:25:01]  So Chris Cuomo asked him the question, and then Ben Carson confuses.
[00:25:04]  Are you denying that that's true?
[00:25:06]  I am denying that that's true, but I am denying.
[00:25:09]  He's not denying that it's true that people go in straight and come out gay from prison.
[00:25:12]  Chris Cuomo.
[00:25:12]  So he just dropped the ball right there.
[00:25:14]  He goes, I'm not denying that's true.
[00:25:16]  What?
[00:25:17]  People go into prison straight and come out gay.
[00:25:20]  They changed their sexuality midlife because they got incarcerated.
[00:25:24]  Yeah.
[00:25:25]  No.
[00:25:26]  No.
[00:25:27]  That's why in a lot of parts of the country they call it the gay house.
[00:25:33]  Are you going to the gay house?
[00:25:34]  You go to the gay house?
[00:25:35]  Maximum security gay house.
[00:25:36]  Yeah.
[00:25:37]  Oh, yeah.
[00:25:37]  Gay Max.
[00:25:38]  Yeah.
[00:25:39]  That's as a basis of understanding homosexuality.
[00:25:41]  If in fact that is the case.
[00:25:43]  So here, let's play this whole.
[00:25:44]  I want to play this whole thing because it's good.
[00:25:45]  You hear them all at once.
[00:25:46]  Ask your question.
[00:25:47]  Never go to prison.
[00:25:48]  And you know there's a whole theory of dominance.
[00:25:50]  Wait a minute.
[00:25:51]  I said a lot of people who go in, come out.
[00:25:54]  Are you denying that that's true?
[00:25:56]  I am denying that that's true, but I am denying that that's as a basis of understanding homosexuality.
[00:26:01]  If in fact that is the case, then it obviously thwarts what you just said.
[00:26:06]  Okay, he just made no sense.
[00:26:08]  It obviously thwarts what you just said.
[00:26:10]  What?
[00:26:10]  What he just said.
[00:26:11]  That's not how you use the word thwart.
[00:26:13]  Yeah, no, it doesn't thwart what he just said.
[00:26:16]  So that's Ben Carson.
[00:26:17]  Now, he's the leading.
[00:26:18]  So now, Ted, as a black man yourself, how do blacks view, I mean, maybe there isn't a way they view it.
[00:26:26]  I don't know.
[00:26:26]  Is there a way that the black community views people like Herman Kane and Ben Carson who become Republicans and actually join the group that's suppressing them?
[00:26:34]  I mean, Colin Powell gets a pass for some reason for being part of a party that's suppressing the black vote all over the country.
[00:26:40]  And he knows it.
[00:26:41]  And he even talked about it.
[00:26:42]  Yet he still remains in that party.
[00:26:43]  Powell gets a pass for the Iraq War.
[00:26:46]  And he gets a pass for the Iraq War, too.
[00:26:47]  So what do you, my question to you, Ted, is there a way that the black community views black Republicans?
[00:26:53]  Because I know how I view them.
[00:26:54]  Yeah, no, I've met a few myself, and I've never met a black Republican that I did not want to smack with my dick.
[00:27:01]  Yeah, were you in prison?
[00:27:06]  I didn't mean any black Republicans in prison.
[00:27:08]  I've met them out walking about in the world.
[00:27:10]  And I think the consensus is that they're just lost.
[00:27:15]  They're supporting a party that is not interested in their well-being or their benefit or their prosperity in this country.
[00:27:21]  And that, to me, is just how do you back a horse that wants to see you die?
[00:27:26]  How do you do that?
[00:27:27]  It's like voting for Hitler because he's against abortion.
[00:27:30]  You're a Jew voting for him.
[00:27:32]  Oh, he's against abortion, so I'll vote for him.
[00:27:35]  So that's what, guys.
[00:27:36]  I bumped into when I find a black Republican, it's usually that.
[00:27:38]  They're religious.
[00:27:39]  And if I can stay in the case of the case.
[00:27:41]  Unless he's super dumb, like who's the basketball player, the round mound of rebound?
[00:27:46]  Charles Barkley.
[00:27:47]  Who's pretty dumb for a grown-up guy with a lot of money?
[00:27:50]  He's really dumb.
[00:27:51]  And it's obvious he doesn't read books.
[00:27:52]  He's too dumb to shut up.
[00:27:53]  I don't even think he can read a street sign.
[00:27:55]  But he is pretty dumb, Charles Barkley.
[00:27:57]  He's very dumb.
[00:27:57]  But he's a great basketball player, and he's got a lot of personality.
[00:28:00]  So let's put him on TV.
[00:28:01]  Fantastic.
[00:28:02]  You know, really free.
[00:28:06]  Oh, you know what?
[00:28:07]  Let me just break in here.
[00:28:08]  I like Charles Barkley.
[00:28:11]  And that sounds a little too negative.
[00:28:14]  You know, I think he's a basketball expert and a very colorful announcer.
[00:28:19]  And I enjoy listening to him talk about basketball.
[00:28:22]  So, but just everything else is when it really hurts that he's in a position to be listened to and he has the opinions that he has and he shares them and people give it credence anyway.
[00:28:37]  So because it's used by people who are the enemy of the people.
[00:28:42]  Okay, so that's what I'm saying about Charles Barkley.
[00:28:46]  But fantastic, one of my favorite, all-time favorite basketball players.
[00:28:49]  And I love him as a sports announcer.
[00:28:52]  Okay, now back to your regularly scheduled conversation.
[00:28:56]  In my lifetime, the Republican Party has trotted out roughly four black candidates of this particular type who are very smart, have a good resume.
[00:29:11]  But then once you get them in front of a mic, they turn out to be batshit insane.
[00:29:15]  So it was like Alan Keyes, Herman King, Herman Kane.
[00:29:19]  Who's the Florida congressman that's Alan West?
[00:29:22]  Alan West.
[00:29:23]  And now this guy.
[00:29:24]  By the way, Alan Keyes makes Ben Carson look like Langston Hugh.
[00:29:31]  Oh, boy, I bet there's people who know who Langston Hughes is who's really enjoying that joke.
[00:29:37]  Poets are prize-winning.
[00:29:39]  I understand that he's famous and popular and that smart people know who he is.
[00:29:42]  I'm saying I'm dumb and I'm uncultured.
[00:29:45]  Okay.
[00:29:46]  And now there's Ben Carson, and I think that pretty much for every presidential cycle from now until eternity, or basically until the Republican Party implodes, you can look forward to the next Ben Carson.
[00:29:59]  And they will always have this beautiful bona fetus of being like a surgeon or a CEO or a colonel in the army.
[00:30:07]  And then once you get to talking to them, you'll realize like, oh, they're crazy.
[00:30:13]  But what happens is that the Republican Party trots them out the same way they trotted out Sarah Palin going, Well, on paper, she looks great.
[00:30:20]  She's going to help the party.
[00:30:21]  And then everybody goes, Oh, that's why there aren't black Republicans.
[00:30:26]  You know, I just want to point out our president took a while to weigh in on this very subject about gay rights.
[00:30:32]  Yes.
[00:30:33]  In our country, it took a while for him to do that.
[00:30:36]  And one more thing about Ben Carson that I found out that among he compares same-sex marriage to pedophilia and bestiality.
[00:30:47]  Yeah, he's one of those guys who actually believes all homosexuality is directly related.
[00:30:52]  He's one of those guys.
[00:30:53]  All right, we got to move on.
[00:30:55]  Robert, you said, oh, can I?
[00:30:57]  If I can take a moment to speak on behalf of the black community, oh, sure.
[00:31:03]  As a white privileged male, people like Herman Kane and Ben Carson are genital thwarts on the community.
[00:31:12]  Genital thwarts.
[00:31:15]  That's how you're supposed to use it.
[00:31:16]  I like that.
[00:31:16]  All right.
[00:31:17]  You know, speaking of bestiality, I saw a movie about bestiality the other day.
[00:31:22]  Oh, yeah.
[00:31:23]  We fucked the zoo.
[00:31:29]  You didn't see that movie.
[00:31:30]  You didn't see it.
[00:31:31]  *music*
[00:31:55]  Boy, I didn't realize the level of animosity towards Bill Cosby that was out there.
[00:32:01]  It seemed like there were a lot of comedians just waiting to fucking jump up.
[00:32:04]  Well, he's an I hated him.
[00:32:06]  They wouldn't print what I wrote about him.
[00:32:08]  I wrote it.
[00:32:08]  They asked me to write a thing for when we did the DC Festival, anyway, for the paper, but they wouldn't put it in because what I said about Bill Cosby.
[00:32:15]  You know, I was just jokes about how he goes around the country now that he's a millionaire telling poor black people to pick their pants up.
[00:32:22]  And that's why we had Jim Crow and women are slightly all this.
[00:32:26]  He's fucking, there he is, raping people, wagging his finger, raping fucking women, and wagging his finger at fucking single black women in the inner city.
[00:32:35]  What a fucking piece of shit he is.
[00:32:37]  He is.
[00:32:39]  The only way I've been able to cope with it is that for me, he died when he did that second sitcom after the Cosby show.
[00:32:45]  So he's been dead to me since the Cosby mysteries?
[00:32:49]  No, no, he had another one.
[00:32:51]  Yeah, he went to CBS and did another sitcom.
[00:32:54]  I don't even remember with Flush Results.
[00:32:56]  Really?
[00:32:56]  And so he died to me then.
[00:32:58]  He's been dead since.
[00:32:59]  So that must have been horrible because I don't even remember it.
[00:33:01]  Ready?
[00:33:01]  Okay, here's the.
[00:33:02]  You know, the only place these days where they'll sell the CDs is Sleepy.
[00:33:12]  Okay, ready?
[00:33:14]  So I got a call from Bill Cosby.
[00:33:16]  And we talked about Oklahoma.
[00:33:20]  Hello, Mr. Cosby.
[00:33:23]  Jello.
[00:33:24]  Yes, listen, I just wanted to get your take on the horrible racism that was revealed at Oklahoma State.
[00:33:31]  All the dokey-dokies on the bus saying the scene.
[00:33:35]  And yeah, they're chanting the N-word saying that blacks should be hung by a tree and they'll never be allowed in their fraternity.
[00:33:46]  It's the fault of the old rap and the band sang and down what?
[00:33:55]  The white people pick it up and take the death to 2,000 students.
[00:34:02]  Are you saying it's you're blaming rap music and the way they wear their pants?
[00:34:08]  They'll debases the dire culture.
[00:34:14]  The whites and debases the blacks.
[00:34:17]  You're saying that it debases.
[00:34:18]  It debases all the wackety wags.
[00:34:21]  Okay.
[00:34:21]  All right.
[00:34:21]  I really am having a hard time understanding what you're saying.
[00:34:24]  You're saying it debases the culture.
[00:34:25]  She-bo.
[00:34:34]  How's that again?
[00:34:35]  How you gonna be surprised the white people's on the bus singing the hacks?
[00:34:42]  How are you gonna be surprised?
[00:34:45]  The white people on the bus singing the song about the blacks.
[00:34:49]  That's the culture that we're raised up to be in.
[00:34:53]  They're just responding to the environmental schisms of them.
[00:35:01]  Okay, Bill, but any last words about this?
[00:35:04]  Skizzles.
[00:35:05]  LAUGHTER Okay, that was Bill Cosby.
[00:35:12]  Yeah, Bill Cosby.
[00:35:13]  He has not lost his name.
[00:35:15]  Thank you.
[00:35:17]  Thank you.
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