Across from me, Ben Zelavansky from Ben and Alex.tv.
Yes.
All right, to his left kiddie corner from me from Fire Dog Lake.
It's Brauger Extraordinaire David Day.
And hi, David.
Hi, how are you doing?
Thanks.
Thanks for coming to the show.
And as always, to my right is the man himself from Team Yasumura.
It's Robert Yasumura.
Hey, Robert, how are you doing today?
I'm great.
What are we going to talk about?
Well, you know, it's governor debate time again.
And last week, we had my favorite new governor candidate in New York.
I represent the rent.
It's too damn high party.
People working eight hours a day and 40 hours a week to sum a third job.
Women can't afford to take care of their children, feed their children breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
My main job is to provide a roof over your head, food on the table, and money in your pocket.
This is politics as usual.
Playing a silly game.
It's just not going to happen.
The rent too damn high movement.
The people I'm here to represent can't afford to pay their rent.
Yeah, you know why?
Because the rent is too damn high.
It's a little high.
We had a gubernatorial debate last night between Meg Whitman and Jerry Brown.
And what was the parameters of that debate?
Two candidates sitting face to face at the women's conference in Southern California.
At a women's conference, that's not fair to Jerry Brown.
A woman's conference?
He's running against a woman.
How did it turn out?
Meg Whitman gets booed.
Jerry Brown gets cheered.
What the?
Hey, come on.
But it couldn't have been that bad for Meg Whitman.
I mean, she's still a woman.
She's the only woman on stage.
They're going to like her.
Whitman's at a women's conference.
She is the only woman on the stage.
The audience, almost entirely women.
And they're booing her.
Okay, I guess it didn't go so well for her.
Okay.
So we're going to talk about the Meg Whitman Jerry Brown booing incident and how Meg Whitman lost a room full of women.
And then guess what?
You know, scam artist and religious hypocrite Reverend Robert H. Schuler, founder of the Crystal Cathedral.
That's not too gaudy and ostentatious, is it?
Founder of the Crystal Cathedral located in Garden Grove, California, and the Hour of Power television show.
This past weekend, he made a plea for financial help.
That's right.
The mega church recently reported they were filing for a mega bankruptcy back on October 18th.
There are millions and millions in dollars in debt.
Shuler tearfully asked his congregation for help.
He stated that those who tithe to consider doubling it.
That was what he asked.
Of course, relying on the charity of those less well-off than him.
But what's interesting, you know, his daughter runs the thing, and she gave a press conference, and she said this.
Our ministry will continue as usual.
There will be the school will continue to be held here.
Our television services will continue to be aired.
Okay, when she says as usual, she's not kidding because this was her latest Facebook post.
Hey, I'm flying out to Greece, Turkey, and Germany today.
My hubby is holding down the home front, but I have an idea how I have no idea how often I will be able to respond to all of you for the next three weeks.
Remember, God loves you, and so do I. Yeah, she went on a three-week vacation.
You know, the least the congregation could do is chip in together with those mobile Wi-Fi things.
That way she could check in for more.
She could check and she could still be doing her godly work.
You know, they're inheriting the earth, spread it around a little bit.
So after she stood with her father and asked everybody in the all-glass church to pitch in more money, she hours later, to keep, to let everybody know that she was just going to business as usual, she got on a cruise to go on the footsteps of the Apostle Tour, a church-hosted vacation with a price tag of $3,300 a person.
Okay, we'll talk about that coming up.
But the thing I want to talk about is Barack Obama was on Jon Stewart's daily show yesterday.
And well, you remember when the biggest disaster that hit the President Bush administration was Katrina, and the guy who was in charge of it was doing a horrible job.
And President Bush said this.
Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.
Okay, so now there's the biggest financial disaster in Barack Obama's president.
And he has Larry Summers in charge of that.
And what did he say?
Larry Summers did a heck of a job.
Okay, you know, it's...
It was really bad.
I never thought Barack Obama would sound that much like George Bush, but he really did last night.
And it was horrible to see another comedian take down the president of the United States face to faith.
We're going to talk about that.
There's also voter fraud.
That's right.
The Republicans are out trying to suppress minorities from voting.
And where is all the voter fraud happening, though?
Dick Army has an idea.
It is pinpointed to the major urban areas, the inner city.
Oh, you know, where the darkies are.
Okay.
And we also are going to, we're going to talk about voter fraud.
Doug Benson is going to talk about Proposition 19 and what you need to know from the marijuana logs, from Super High Me, The High Road, and the new Benson Interruption, which is coming out on Comedy Central next Friday.
It's Doug Benson who's here for the interview to talk about the new pot laws on the ballot.
It's next Tuesday in California.
But right now, let's talk about Barack Obama, you guys.
You know what?
Before that, I forgot.
Last week, Palladino called in right after we got off the air last week.
He did.
He called in, and I just wanted to play this voicemail.
Jimmy, this is your old buddy Carl Palladino again.
Sorry, I haven't called lately.
I was busy getting ready for this debate.
Turns out I shouldn't have bothered.
Nobody even noticed I was on stage except for when I had to slip out for a few minutes there to go to the John.
You know, if they had just put urinals in the podiums like I requested, I could have stayed for the whole thing.
But hey, what are you going to do?
That's politics.
Anyway, you look at some of the other candidates on the stage there, and old Carl Palladino and his weak bladder start looking pretty darn good.
First, you got Andrew Cuomo, a career politician and all-around oily guy.
Then you got that hooker, Kirsten Davis.
Could you believe that?
I mean, we all got into politics to meet Easy Broads, but I wasn't expecting to meet one in the middle of a debate.
I mean, under the podium, maybe, but not behind it.
And what about that nut with the cookie mustache going on about how high the rent is?
Speaking as a developer and landlord, I found him to be the most despicable of all.
Even worse than Andrew Cuomo, who, as we have already established, is extremely oily.
There was a couple other weirdos there, too, but I didn't quite catch what their deal was.
Anyway, I'm pretty happy with how things went because people get to see the real Carl Palladino.
Underneath all the racist emails, the adultery, the gay bashing, the anger issues, the hypocrisy, the shady business dealings.
There's a guy who's just plain incompetent.
Sorry, but sorry, incontinent, incontinent.
Anyway, I still want to be on your show.
I even donated to the KPFK Pledge Drive.
So give me a call back so I can come down there, pick up my tote bag, and bash all your heads in with a baseball bed.
Okay, that's Carl.
Carl really wants to get on the show.
Big fan, I guess.
I just can't ever get the satellite when he's available.
That's the problem.
Yeah, I can't ever get the satellite when he's available.
I don't think he's going to be too busy after next Tuesday.
No, I can't schedule my free.
Are you saying that being governor of New York doesn't keep you busy?
I think that is what he said.
Yeah, okay.
I'm pretty sure he's going to be the spokesman for Johnsonville Bratz coming up soon.
You know what?
When Barack Obama was on the Jon Stewart show yesterday, some people call it the Daily Show.
He's like Jon Stewart, like Jerry Samuel.
That's Dave Dayon, busted my balls off the top of the bat.
But, you know, we were all upset that Barack Obama, because he kept saying, yes, we can, and it gave us such hope, and we thought he was going to govern that way.
But there was another part to the yes, we can.
We couldn't hear because as soon as he was saying yes, we can, we would all cheer.
Here's that part.
You guys missed it?
Yes, we can.
But there's a but.
And we all, who knew there was a but?
Now, David Dayon, you saw Barack Obama's performance last night on the Daily Show, and it was filled with stuff.
I mean, the crowd laughed in his face.
I mean, that's the worst thing you can have happen.
The crowd just laughed.
I'll play one more time.
Yes, we can, but it is not.
Oh, that's not good.
So, can we just give you your quick assessment of what his performance last night with Jon Stewart?
Well, I don't think that's a winning situation, really, for Barack Obama to come in there.
It's the road, it's not the home field advantage.
It's Jon Stewart's turf.
It's his sensibility.
He's been putting this together, saying, you know, the guy did a campaign in poetry and, you know, did his administration in prose for quite a while now.
And that sensibility has permeated through to his audience.
So I don't know that there was a way out of that for Barack Obama.
I think it also tells you a little something that he agreed to go on the Daily Show.
What does it tell you about?
About the timing.
I mean, like, they're obviously getting a little nervous.
I think it was a desperate.
It sounds like a desperate.
At first glance, it looks like, oh, that makes sense.
If you're a casual observer, you go, oh, Jon Stewart's a liberal.
And he's going to go on a liberal show and try to.
But if you're a little closer observer, you realize that Jon Stewart is a real liberal, meaning he criticizes his leaders no matter who's in power.
And so he did that.
So that's why, and he's certainly going to give you a harder interview than David Gregory or Jake Tapper or even Chris Hardball.
And so that's why I think that was what a tactical mistake it was to go on with a truth teller who has, he's not beholden to anybody.
He doesn't want to get invited to the right parties.
He is the right party.
And Robert, did you see any of it?
I did.
And I actually didn't think it was as bad as everybody.
Everybody's freaking out.
I'm like, you know what?
Obama's really good off the cuff.
Like, he does things that, like, I mean, it's such a joy to see a competent person as president at all.
Like, I still don't understand why everybody's freaking out.
I'm like, can't you just take solace in the fact that we don't have a complete moron speaking for our country?
I think, like, you know, in your day-to-day life, I think you can feel good about that.
But when it comes around to election time, you know, it's a bummer that that's all we have to hold on to.
Like, there's no, you know, whatever I think about where Obama has come up short, there's no M voting for anybody that is not a Democrat this time around.
Like, you know, I'd like to be able to, I mean, maybe in California, it doesn't matter so much in terms of people are going to win big time one way or another.
But, you know, like, I'm not, like, I'm never not going to vote.
And there's never, as far as I can tell, going to be any viable alternative on the other side.
So I can continue to be let down by Obama, but still be realistic about what the alternative is.
I think if you saw that Paul Gilmartin is joining us.
Hi, Paul.
How are you?
James, hello.
Good to see you.
Hi, Paul.
So, Paul, we're talking about Barack Obama's.
I will refer to it as a debacle on the Daily Show yesterday.
I don't know if you saw it.
I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
It was unbelievable.
He asked where separation of church and state was in the Constitution.
That hurt him.
That's really going to hurt him.
Well, Robert, when you say you don't know what everybody's freaking out about, did you not see him get his ass handed to him time and time and time again?
What?
He answered the questions.
Like, honestly, if you'd put not Bush per se, but like McCain, if he would have skirted around the questions, he wouldn't have answered them directly.
And he said, you know, Obama really kind of answered the questions directly.
You're right.
He had the balls to come out and say he has no policy.
You know what?
That's what I was thinking last night as I was watching it.
I'm like, well, he has no agenda because usually you come out and you want to get your message out.
He had no message.
He was actually answering the questions that Jon Stewart was asking, which is always a mistake when you're a politician running for an office.
You want to get your message out.
And you only answer the question if it serves you.
And he answered every question, and boy, did it not serve.
Let's listen to one of the answers, okay?
So we were talking about Larry Summers.
Now, Larry Summers, for people who don't know who Larry Summers is, he is the douchebag that started all this.
You loved him in the Facebook movie.
Oh, I sure did.
Oh, did you see that?
Yeah, he didn't understand the future of Facebook when it was presented to him.
And he was like, huh?
He was the president of Harvard.
Anyway, but the most important thing he did was he was the chief sponsor of the Graham Leachy, the one that repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, right, of 1990.
So he was President Obama's chief financial advisor, not Obama, but Clinton.
And so he was the guy on board who deregulated Wall Street, basically.
He basically deregulated Wall Street, okay?
And so then he went to be president of Harvard.
And then when Barack Obama became president, he brought him back in to be the chief of his economic council.
Am I correct on that, Dave?
Is that pretty close?
You could add in the middle there the fact that he worked for a giant hedge fund named D.E. Shaw and made hundreds of millions of dollars in the process.
And he advised.
He was after getting kicked out of Harvard for comments about how women aren't good at science and math.
Yes.
So what I hear is he's wildly successful and not afraid to speak his own mind.
He said, bring him on board.
You ever saw the fog of war?
He is the Robert McNamara of our generation.
He touched many, many things that turned to crap.
Yes, he is.
He is exactly.
Isn't Donald Rumsfeld the Robert McNamara of our because he even has the hair and the glasses?
You know what?
So you have to pick just one?
And the failed war.
I was going to say, he's like 1A.
Yeah.
He's like...
So he was asked, do you feel like it's a big disappointment?
And here's what Barack.
Do you feel like your first - because people are feeling disappointed in him.
So they asked him about that, and here's what Barack Obama had to say.
You know, look, when I won and we started the transition and we looked at what was happening in the economy, a whole bunch of my political folks came up and said, you know what?
Enjoy this now, because two years from now, folks are going to be frustrated.
And that is, in fact, what's happening.
Okay, so basically what he's saying is, hey, you know, there's nothing I could have done.
I was damned if you do, damned if you don't, and everybody's going to be – I must be doing this.
And when he was saying that, Robert, it made me think, this is exactly the kind of crap that George Bush used to say.
It was like everyone knows the real.
I'm sitting at home knowing the truth of what's really wrong, what people are really upset with Barack Obama for, just like Jon Stewart.
You could see him almost pulling his hair out during this interview.
And then Barack Obama comes out to pretend that none of the things that people are upset about are actually even happening.
He didn't mention, that's not why people are.
People aren't upset no matter what you did.
People are upset because of what you did and because of what you didn't do.
It wasn't just like no matter what, people are going to be upset with you.
If there was a public option, you would get rid of half of your opposition.
If you didn't appoint Larry Summers and you really put some strings to those TARP bailouts, you would get rid of the other half of your, you'd have everybody on board again, and there would be an even bigger landslide and they would elect you until you died like they did FDR.
The only thing I would add to that is that there were probably, even if he provided the things that you're talking about, there probably still would be 9.6% unemployment.
I mean, these things work on, you know, if you look at elections historically, the unemployment rate and the party and power losses are in direct correlation to one another.
And so, you know, it's he's right in a sense that he's going to take some advisors were correct in saying that you're going to have a honeymoon and then you're going to lose it.
And I think that's all mainly he was saying there.
But could he have done absolutely nothing to bring down the unemployment rate?
Well, of course not.
I mean, there are plenty of things that he could have done.
He could have used, he could have, you know, appointed a different Federal Reserve chairman, for example.
For example.
And someone who's not a conservative Republican.
For example.
And someone who would have ramped up the kinds of monetary policy that they can do a lot faster.
They're going to do it the day after the election.
They're going to announce some ramping up.
Isn't the clear solution that we need to pass legislation to impose a hiring freeze on people that know each other from the Hamptons?
100%.
Let's throw Cape Cod in there, too.
Yeah, let's just say nobody gets to work in government who went to Harvard, Princeton, or Yale.
And stayed in somebody else's summer home.
Yeah.
And let's see how that works out.
Let's just see.
We've tried it the other way now for a long time.
All of Bush's administration was from Liberty University.
Do you really want to head back to that?
Well, he was from Yale.
So those people would have never been there if it wasn't.
Or Christian universities.
The Hamptons are Christian universities.
Obviously, it has nothing to do with where you went to school.
It has to do with who's paying your bills right now.
But the problem is, I think people would be frustrated with where we are right now with Obama's performance.
But if there was a sense that he had really given it everything he could have given it, people would cut him a little more slack.
But he started right out of the gate with compromise instead of pushing for things that he claimed to believe in.
You know, saying that, you know, forget public option, look at single payer.
You know, he said, well, I wish we could do it, but we can't.
Yeah, the Democrats compromised.
Just try it.
Just once, just try.
The Democrats compromised, also known as the last eight years.
Yeah.
Yes, right?
They kept saying, we don't have a filibuster proof.
And then no matter what they got, they said, we still can't do it.
Why?
Because we are spineless.
That's why.
So here he is talking about Larry Summers.
You know, there we go.
Were people being naive in the sense of, I remember very clearly you said, you know, we can't expect different results with the same people.
And I remember when you hired Larry Summers.
I remember thinking, well, that seems like the exact same person.
And why would you.
So in some respects, I get your frustration with this idea that, well, geez, are you never satisfied?
But again, the expectation, I think, was audacity going in there and really rooting out a corrupt system.
Larry Summers did a heck of a job trying to figure out how to.
You don't want to use that phrase, dude.
I was.
Pun intended.
All right.
No, no.
I don't think it was intended.
Larry was integral in helping to think through some really complicated stuff.
Now, the notion is, I think, that somehow Managing a crisis of this magnitude is a matter of black and white, and you've got some clear decisions that you can make, and here's how you can do it, and you shut down these banks and push this stuff aside, and somehow it's all going to be right.
It turns out that at every juncture where we're making decisions, we've got to make some calculations.
If you shut down this bank, does that mean that you're going to have a cascade of 100 other banks that are going to be shut down?
Does that mean then the taxpayers suddenly have to pay for all that?
Is that going to cost more taxpayer money?
So a lot of the debates that were taking place in terms of financial regulatory reform, in terms of how to stabilize the financial system, were ones that required some expertise.
And Larry helped to provide that.
Okay.
Okay.
Tell me that doesn't make you that I felt like I felt when I would watch George Bush speak on television.
I thought you said he answered the questions.
Well, he answered the question.
No, he didn't.
He said, well, he said, why'd you hire Larry Summers?
Because we needed him.
Yeah, we needed him.
Why did you need a guy who didn't do it right the first time?
Well, he helped.
Well, and I think what you see there is how does he frame the issue?
He says, well, if we got rid of one bank, then here's what the effect of that would be on other banks.
And let's not get into the issue.
But the idea is, who is he worried about?
Banks.
Banks.
He's worried about banks.
This is a mindset that is a Summers-Geithner mindset of we can't wake up in the morning and think of a world without Goldman Sachs.
Other people wake up in the morning and can't think of a world without the middle class.
Right.
And that's the fundamental difference.
It's a difference of worldview.
But is there validity to his argument that, yeah, if Goldman Sachs, as much as I hate them, what does the world look like if they fail?
What is the chain of events?
You know, it's easy for us to be in here just to be doubles-headed kids.
It is easier for us to sit in here and say, let him fail.
God, there was nothing I would love more than to see those executives lose their homes.
There was a way.
You know what, Paul?
You are correct.
But that's also a false choice in a sense.
They'll say, well, it's not an either-or.
He could have saved the banks and put strings attached to the money that they gave them, meaning, hey, you know what?
We're going to reinstitute Glasteagle.
We're going to break you up now.
If you want to have us bail you out, we're going to do things correctly, which they didn't do any of that.
So that's what people are upset about.
And I think the other thing you have to take into account is look at where we are right now.
Banks have record profits.
Their executives are getting record bonuses.
And their balance sheets continue to be a toxic lead weight on the economy.
And you actually can't move the economy forward in a situation where you have 1.2 million people a year getting foreclosed on in their homes.
So protect the banks today, but this is actually not working to promote any kind of recovery.
So you have to think about, okay, well, maybe there is a different way of doing this.
It's the difference between saying, we're going to give you this money, can you please do the right thing with it?
And we're going to give you this money if you don't do the right thing with it.
We're going to take it back.
Yeah.
Well, the problem is he didn't have a plan.
When he came on television last night, he had a whole half hour to talk.
I didn't hear one plan on what he's going to do to help unemployment.
He didn't have one plan on what he was going to do to stop the million foreclosures every year.
We're record foreclosures since the Great Depression.
He doesn't even talk about doing something to stop that.
What does our antitrust law look like?
This is just like just rusted.
Let's break out the WD40 on the antitrust law.
Antitrust law, it's not, antitrust laws have never been the problem.
It's the willingness of the administration to wield them.
It's not the regulations, the regulators.
Yeah.
And a lot of administrations are like, we don't want to do it.
I mean, so isn't that what we should look at?
Their unwillingness to make unpopular business decisions.
Absolutely.
I mean, the key issue you're seeing right now is that you have a banks foreclosing on people without the proper documentation, forging signatures, backdating signatures, not even having the mortgage itself.
There are cases of people who paid cash for their house and are getting foreclosed on because they don't have the paperwork right at all.
That's fraud.
That's criminal fraud.
And there is a role for law enforcement to play and say, this is fraud, and you're actually going to have to go to jail for this.
And that's not being given the weight that it's due because of the conglomeration of the media, which goes back to antitrust law.
We are all hitting the nail on the head this afternoon, gentlemen.
And I want to have to move topics.
The voter suppression is a real thing.
It happens every election cycle.
What happens is that they try to scare minorities from going to the polls because we're going to be there.
We're going to be watching in case you're illegal.
In fact, there was a billboard in Wisconsin that said vote illegally and you go to jail.
There's a billboard.
So I actually talked about it.
And it was carved in cheese.
And the Tea Partiers said they're going to be out there going to the polling place.
So I actually got hold of George Leslie, who is a teabagger who's going to be going to the polls.
And we had a little talk to him for two minutes here.
We're here with Teabagger George Leslie.
Now, George, I understand you're going to have a busy election day on November 2nd.
What are you going to be doing?
Oh, that's right, Jimmy.
We're going to go watch the polls and make sure no one is voting illegally.
Oh, now, where are you going?
Are you going to be going to the poll near your house?
Oh, no, no, no.
We're going to be going to the inner city because that's actually where most of the voter fraud takes place.
And, you know, that makes sense.
Okay.
I don't know what you mean by that makes sense.
I think you do.
Okay.
Now, what do you look for?
What are some of the things you're going to be looking for?
Like, I don't know what to look for with someone who's going to vote illegally.
What are some of the signs?
Well, it's actually pretty easy because you can tell most of the time because, you know, they're black.
And that's it?
You don't look for any other signs besides being black?
No, mostly that.
I mean, you know, that's what our research shows.
So that's what we're going to do.
Okay.
What is the research that shows that?
The internet.
Oh, the internet?
Okay.
Yep.
Oh, it's on there.
Okay, now let me ask you, what do you plan on doing if you suspect someone of voting illegally?
Oh, you know, a little yelling, a little threatening, a lot of intimidating.
We're going to carry bats.
We're going to have t-shirts.
It's going to be cool.
You know, we're basically going to do what the Black Panthers do in white neighborhoods.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, George, the Black Panthers, that news story that there were Black Panthers intimidating people has been largely debunked by the news media.
Oh.
Oh, you mean the lame stream news media?
Okay.
Yeah, I mean several credible news organizations have checked into that and they've cross-checked each other and they've debunked it.
Well, Jimmy, when a communist double-checks a fascist, that still equals socialism.
Okay.
All right, George.
Well, thanks for taking time out.
And, you know, let's try to stay safe at the polls and let's not do anything crazy.
You betcha.
I'm going to go shoot something later.
Okay.
Thanks, George.
Okay, that was George Leslie of the Teabaggers out at the polls.
And we're here in studio with Ben Zalivansky, David Dayen, Paul Gilmartin, and Robert Yasumura.
And this is the Jimmy Dore Show on Pacifica.
Thank you.
Hey, now it's time to check in with our good friend Jim Hightower and see what's on his mind this week.
Michael Duke is the big Wally of Walmart.
As CEO of the Low Wage Behemoth, he siphons some $19 million a year in personal pay from the global retailer.
How much is $19 million?
Let's break it down in terms that Duke's own workforce can appreciate.
While Big Wally's workers average about $9.50 an hour, Duke's pay comes out to $9,500 an hour.
So he pockets as much in two hours as Walmart workers make in a whole year.
But Walmart doesn't give a damn about such gross pay gaps between privileged elites and the rest of us.
As a spokesman scoffed, I don't think Mike Duke needs me to defend his compensation package.
Really?
If not you, who?
Those who think that the Hoyapolloi don't notice, much less care, about America's growing income disparity should take a peek at a recent opinion survey run by the right-wing corporate-funded Peter Peterson Foundation.
This outfit intended to show that the general public backs the teabag agenda of slashing government spending, including balancing the federal budget by putting Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block.
But, whoopsie-daisy, the survey of thousands of Americans went badly wrong for the Peterson ideologues.
For example, far from wanting to gut Social Security payments, 85% of the people favored extending the program by making the rich pay into the fund, like all the rest of us do.
And hey, Mike, this one's for you.
Nearly six out of ten of the folks involved in the foundation's America Speaks Survey want a new higher tax bracket to make millionaires pay their fair share of providing for the common good.
This is Jim Hightower saying, the foundation tried to bury these surprisingly progressive results, but you can see a good analysis of them at the Center for Economic Policy and Research at CEPR.net.
Hey, everybody, if you'd like to come see me do standing up comedy this week, if you're in Ventura, California, or anywhere near, like up in Santa Barbara, I know we're on the air up there.
Well, I'm going to be at the Ventura Harbor Comedy Club this Friday and Saturday, October 29th and 30th, one show Friday, two shows Saturday.
So you go to VenturaHarborComedyClub.com and get your tickets.
And if you'd like to get some free tickets, here's how you do it.
You call right now, 818-985-5735.
That's 818-985-KPFK.
The first five callers are going to receive two tickets to the Friday Night Show and Ventura Harbor Comedy Club.
Isn't that something?
Jimmy, when should I call?
Later?
No, you should call right now.
818-9855.
Five randomly selected callers?
No, the five first callers.
Oh, so I should call right now.
Right now, 818-985-5735.
That's 818-985-KPFK.
So I'll see you this weekend at the Ventura Harbor Comedy Club.
I want to pause for just a minute because we've got a new sponsor on the show.
It's the Tea Party Halloween Superstore.
Yeah, that's right.
For all your right-wing Halloween party and costume needs, come on down to the Tea Party Halloween Superstore.
And joining us now on the phone is the owner-operator of the Tea Party Halloween Superstore, Argus Tea Party.
Hey, how are you, Jimmy?
It's great to be on the show.
Hey, I'm fine, Argus.
Can I ask you, Argus Tea Party?
Is that your real name?
No, no, you got me.
It's not.
I changed it once this whole Tea Party movement got going.
So what's your real name?
Bruce Tea Party.
But I thought Argus sounded more down home.
Okay, makes sense.
Now, let me ask you, there's a lot of confusion about what you guys actually stand for, but I really couldn't figure out what the connection is between the Tea Party and Halloween.
Oh, well, that's easy, and neither one would exist without irrational fear.
And you'll be scared, silly, when you check out some of the costumes we got down at the Tea Party Halloween Superstore.
Oh, tell me about some of the more popular costumes in the world.
Oh, yeah.
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Now, the Pepe costume comes in two varieties.
We got industrious Pepe, who steals jobs from Americans, and Lazy Pepe, who comes here to take a siesta on our welfare roles.
Now, which one of those is a bigger seller?
You know what?
For some weird reason, they're equally popular.
The good news is both Pepe costumes come complete with sombrero, drooping mustache, and skin darkener.
Wow, that sounds scary, right?
Actually, I was going to say racist.
Yeah, I love Halloween.
Oh, also, I forgot to mention that Pepe costume is not available in our Arizona stores.
Okay, Argus, what other costumes have you got the Tea Party is wearing this Halloween?
Oh, well, how about this blood-curdling Halloween classic, gay marriage?
Gay marriage is a costume?
You bet it is.
Every good tea partier knows there's nothing scarier than two consenting adults committing to spend the rest of their lives together.
Now, you and a same-sex friend are going to be the head of your Halloween party as you force straight people to marry gay people against their will.
Wait a minute, Argus.
That's kind of ridiculous.
Legalizing gay marriage doesn't mean straight people are going to have to marry gay people.
Well, the thing is, Jimmy, we just don't know that, and that's why it's so darn scary.
Now, I think it's better to keep marriage the way God intended between a man and a woman, and if that doesn't work out, some other woman.
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All right, fine.
I can see why the tea parties would be very scared of that costume.
What else you got?
Okay, now this one is guaranteed to terrify that Halloween-loving tea partier in your life.
It's the federal deficit.
How do you make the federal deficit into a Halloween costume?
Well, it's basically just like an amorphous blob kind of thing.
But you know, it doesn't really matter what it looks like because the average tea partier doesn't understand the deficit anyway.
They just know they're supposed to be afraid of it.
Oh, I got it.
But, you know, it still sounds pretty lame.
All right, Jimmy, now cut us some slack.
We just started manufacturing this one.
You know, for some reason, nobody thought the deficit was scary until about two years ago.
You know what?
I noticed that too.
It's funny how that works, huh?
Yeah, funny, sure.
And scary.
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Proposition 19, which is the marijuana proposition in California.
I wanted to let you know, if you're in Los Angeles, the Actors Gang Theater, which is in Culver City, it's run by Tim Robbins, right?
That's a big deal.
Well, on the first Tuesday of every month, they're doing this thing called Sataristas.
And I'm going to be a part of it this Tuesday.
It's at the Actors Gang Theater, November 2nd, 8 p.m.
Doors open at 7.
The cost is pay what you can.
Can you believe that?
Pay what you can.
And each show is followed by the After Gang.
It's an outdoor lounge lounge offering audiences a unique opportunity to hang out before and after the show, have a drink or three, enjoy a few laughs, and meet and mingle with performers.
So that's at the Actors Gang.
And also on Monday, November 1st, 8 p.m., it's the Monday Night Grind, part of the Axis Monday series.
Don't bold that law.
It's a discussion about Proposition 19 and legalizing marijuana.
That's also at the Actors Gang Theater.
Where is the Actors Gang Theater, Ben?
It's at 9070 Venice Boulevard, Culver City, California.
So that's Monday, and I'll be there Tuesday at the Actors Gang.
You can go to www.theactorsgang.com.
And speaking of Proposition 19, one of my good buddies from the marijuana logs is Doug Benson.
Doug Benson, if you don't know him, is the expert comedian and also an expert expert on marijuana and all things marijuana.
He's the star of Super High Me, the movie.
He also was nice enough to put me in.
He's the writer, founder, performer of the marijuana logs.
He has a show on G4 called The High Road.
You see a theme?
Comedy?
Yes, it's all comedy.
And he has a new show coming out on Comedy Central, which premieres next Friday.
And it's called The Benson Interruption.
So here's my conversation with Doug Benson.
He sat down with me to talk about Proposition 19.
Now, we have the medical marijuana is on the, not medical, marijuana is on the ballot in California this November 2nd.
And it's Proposition 19, which would, would that legalize marijuana or would it just decriminalize marijuana?
That would make it, as far as I know, that would make it legal to have or grow up to an ounce for personal use in the privacy of your own home.
Okay.
And how are you going to be voting on this proposition?
I'm voting yes, but there are people out there, avid pot smokers and medical marijuana supporters, who have some fairly legitimate arguments for not voting for it.
My feeling is that it's going to pass or not pass by a narrow margin.
And either way, I think that merely voting to say the people of California think it should be legal and it possibly passing or coming close to passing is just important enough for me to vote yes.
Because ultimately, I don't think anyone should be incarcerated for anything to do with marijuana.
Well, I couldn't agree with you more.
I think that the point I hear people making, I even heard people talking on the radio yesterday saying that, you know, it kind of, when I smoked pot when I was younger, it really didn't help me and it made me less motivated, so I'm going to vote no.
It's like, you want to keep something illegal?
Because you know what else takes away my motivation?
Sugar.
Yeah, no, television.
More people are addicted to and waste their lives watching television than, and certainly a lot of those people are high.
Don't get me wrong.
But, you know, I just tweeted that this is something that I because I keep hearing, you keep hearing who is against it and what's, you know, what factions aren't going to want to vote for it.
And the thing I keep hearing is that parents, like people with kids, as soon as they start to get close to voting yes for legalizing weed, they start to think, oh, but then my kids will do it.
So this is a tweet that I just have just been working on.
I'm about to send out.
I just wanted to say message to parents who worry that if marijuana is legalized, their kids will want to try it.
They will anyway.
Yes.
They will be trying something that's illegal.
Why do you want your own children to go through that rite of passage with the possibility of incarceration?
It's the last three presidents of the United States.
I don't think we can think of any other law that Clinton, Bush, and Obama would all openly admit to having broken.
Right.
They've all broken that law.
And they're the presidents.
The leaders of the free world are saying, yeah, I tried it.
And guess what?
They didn't like it, and then they went on to become president.
So that's probably what will happen if your child is on that path.
Others will enjoy it and become comedians.
But either way, how is that hurting society?
Well, that's what people don't, it's the way you look at it, right?
It's like, okay, well, what would be the net effect on society of keeping pot legal or keeping or making it keeping pot illegal or making it legal?
The net effect of keeping pot illegal is devastating, not only on our economy.
There's people in jail right now.
You know, we spend about $12,000 a year on a kid to educate him.
We spend about $35,000 a year on a kid to put him in jail.
And, well, even though this happened very much under the radar, Doug, I'm sure you're aware of it.
I think it was on August 30th, or was it September 30th?
Arnold Schwarzenegger did.
He took pot possession in the state of California, which used to be a misdemeanor, which you could be arrested for and go to jail for.
They now have made it just an infraction.
That's what supposedly they're going to, it is.
Have you heard about that law?
Yeah, that's the way I understand it, and that's the trouble with pot laws, is they tend to be passed around by people who are high.
But the way I understand it is that, you know, because you'll have people saying things all the time that are just apparently not true.
I mean, that's true of potheads and politicians.
But on January 1st is when it'll supposedly kick in in California what Schwarzenegger signed.
And I don't know why it was done so quietly, especially since isn't he leaving office regardless.
Right.
On January 1st, you will be able to it'll only be an infraction if you get caught with like a personal amount.
An infraction means and that would mean a citation that would probably cost anywhere from, I'm guessing from $100 to $200 or $300.
But unlike most states that have decriminalized weed, you won't even have to do a court appearance.
Like it'll really be just like a ticket.
So that's between that and medical, that's why a lot of people are coming, a lot of pro-pot people are anti-pop.
I'm just saying there's going to be a step back in some ways.
Like, you know, like law enforcement will get, you know, more involved in like situations like if an adult passes a joint to a 17-year-old, then you could, you know, you supposedly could do like jail time for that.
Those are the sort of arguments that are being brought up to say we shouldn't vote for it.
There's talk of another proposition in 2012 being on the ballot that'll be more comprehensive and more worked out than the current one.
But my feeling is like if you think marijuana should be legalized, let's go ahead and vote for the current one.
It may not be Perfect, but it'll move things in the right direction.
And that's why I think no politicians are backing or no politicians are for or against marijuana because they're afraid to lose constituents.
You don't know who the pot smokers are.
But they also know that there are still a lot of conservative people.
So they're just being quiet about it.
It's not even a campaign issue for anybody in California.
And I think that's just because they would risk losing votes no matter which stance they take on it.
Yeah, they say that the people 35 and under are in favor of legalizing marijuana, and it's the people.
So they're kind of blaming it on the baby boomers, which that.
Yeah, so we have to, you and I, we have to take care of ourselves and make sure we're still alive when all these conservative, dead people are gone.
Right.
Conservative, they're dead when they're alive, but we just have to wait for.
I just told a college newspaper today, we just have to wait for the people who are against marijuana to die because they will.
Young people have no problem with marijuana or it being legal.
They try it.
They don't try it.
They love it.
They don't love it.
They live their lives.
And none of them is doing binge smoking and then dying in the middle of their dorm room.
Right.
And did you hear they had that?
Did you hear that cola they just had?
They just made a bunch of kids sick at a college party.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's legal.
You get that at 7-Eleven.
Drink a couple of sips.
You get sick.
Maybe have some marijuana.
It'll help you feel better after you have that cola.
Yeah, it gets rid of the nausea.
Well, that's what I was, you know.
I had somebody come up to me.
I was just in Ann Arbor, and they had just passed medical marijuana in Michigan, as you know.
And the person said to me, you know, you can get that for headaches.
An old guy who said I had headaches and they gave him medical marijuana.
And I go, do you know why they gave him medical marijuana for headaches?
And he said, no.
I said, because medical marijuana cures headaches.
It does a lot of things.
That's what I also point out to people.
It's like, what lately have they discovered that coffee or alcohol does for you that can benefit your health?
Like, what kind of studies are they coming up with saying that those things might stave off Alzheimer's disease?
Because that's what they're saying about pot.
Right.
Oh, really?
They're saying that Alzheimer's.
Really?
Yeah, I may have heard that somewhere or made it up.
But my point is that stuff, there's new stuff all the time that's coming out.
You know what I mean?
There's new medical studies all the time.
Every once in a while, somebody will come forward with a glass of wine is good for your heart or a glass of beer might make you live longer.
But nobody's saying, you know, that you should be drinking a lot to cure any particular malady.
Right.
And there's, you know, and there's 90 things on the list of things that marijuana helps you for.
And when you go to get your medical marijuana license, the last time I renewed it, when I told them what the things I needed it for, they ask you a million follow-up questions.
I mean, they really try to make sure that you are using this for the thing that you say you are.
I'm going back in today.
Doctors get shut down if there's any, you know, if there's any malfeasance.
No, I'm not sure.
I'm going back in today, actually, at 3.30 in Pasadena here, California, right by the Rosebowl to get my new license.
And I've heard they're much more strict than they used to be, like they actually, what you just said.
Yeah, they're vetting the patients more so that they can't be shut down for just giving out bogus medical marijuana cards.
And, you know, I can't tell you how many people I know who, on a weekly or monthly basis, are able to procure Vicodins, Valiums, Xanaxes, and even harder things from their regular medical doctor with no real symptoms.
Yeah, the smartest ad, or anti-drug ad, I should say, that I ever saw on TV didn't target marijuana.
It was about a corner drug dealer who wasn't getting any work because kids were getting it all out of the medicine cabinets at home.
Right.
Exactly.
Well, that is the case.
I mean, more kids try that than the legal drugs, right?
Isn't that the bigger problem?
Is actually the pharmaceuticals they're getting their hands on at home?
Yeah, if you don't want your kids to smoke pot, sit around and do it yourself.
They will not be interested because whatever your parents are doing is not something you're compelled to necessarily pursue.
I don't know if that would actually work, but I wish my parents would have tried it.
Well, it wouldn't necessarily work.
It's true.
It's kind of a generalization.
But it certainly worked for me with cigarette smoking.
Both of my parents did it, and I've always found it disgusting, and it never appealed to me.
And it started with my parents smoking in the car with the windows rolled up and the air conditioning on.
Oh.
When I was five years old, you know.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Mad Men.
You know, my parents were, all my pictures are my parents.
They look like that.
I'm sure there's pictures of my mom smoking while she was pregnant with me.
You know, Doug, my earliest memory of my life is when I was a little kid, maybe four years old, waking up in the middle of the night to get a drink of water, and I looked into my parents' bedroom, and I just see two red fireballs floating over their bed.
So they would be laying in bed smoking cigarettes at night.
Oh, good.
I was worried that it was that they were having sex or something.
No, no.
And, you know, the thing about if your parents do it, you won't die.
That certainly worked with me and my parents with Catholicism.
I think it works with a lot of things.
I'm just saying that, you know, some kids grow up and be exactly like their parents, and those kids will be called hippies.
You know, that most parents, if they smoked pot, their kids would either not be interested in it or they'd find it in their own way in due time.
The other thing about me is I was plenty exposed to the idea of smoking pot when I was in high school or college, and I never tried it.
I didn't smoke pot until I was like 28.
Well, Doug, I didn't, how come, did I know this about you already?
Probably.
It's the same thing that happened to, you know, Willie Nelson always tells a story like that the first time he tried it, somebody passed him a joint.
It was probably not good weed or whatever the reasoning.
He didn't know how to do it.
So he smoked and went, oh, there's no point in that.
That didn't do anything.
And then went a long time thinking weed doesn't do anything for me.
And then somehow he discovered it again.
I would imagine it was with some musicians.
Oh, yeah, I'm guessing.
Well, I was.
That's how I found it is because I was working on the road with comedians who smoked.
That's how I got into it, right?
I was about the same age, 28 years old.
And, you know, I just got, it was like alcohol started to really affect me, like, meaning the next day.
And I had a problem.
Well, I still like alcohol, by the way.
Oh, I do too, but I have to, you know, you have to learn how to manage that much more.
You started getting another level of hangovers.
Like, I just got tired of being sluggish all the time and drinking.
And, you know, I was a nightclub performer, so you're in nightclubs every night, and a friend of mine had some marijuana cookies.
And he said, yeah, I have asthma, so I can't smoke pot.
I just eat them.
So I ate half a cookie, and I had the best time of my life.
And I was like, I think I found my new thing.
Like that old Huey Lewis joke.
I found my new drug.
And it's been a love affair ever since.
And that's fun.
I think people who I didn't know you were a late smoked Me too.
I didn't smoke it in high school.
I didn't smoke.
In fact, I looked down my nose at people who smoked pot in college and high school.
Dude, when I was a kid, I listened to Cheech and Chong albums over and over again, and it never dawned on me that I should be doing drugs of any kind, pod or any of the other drugs they talked about.
I just thought it was funny.
You know, I just don't, you know, I may be an exception.
No, I was that same kid.
We used to listen to, we had to go in our basement and listen to Cheech and Chong albums and laugh our heads off.
And yeah, why didn't it dawn on me?
Hey, you should be doing the same things they're doing.
Yeah, it just felt like an adult thing and like a thing that also was silly.
Like it seemed, you know, it made them silly.
Like when people say to me, as a comedian who's on TV and stuff, and you're, you know, my documentary shows on G4, which is watched by teenagers, I get messages from teenagers all the time that they love the movie.
People say, don't you worry about being a bad role model.
You mean you don't want kids to see somebody who's happy?
Yeah, you want to see.
Like, what's wrong with my life?
How is it, you know, what is it, you know, how is it affecting me in a negative way?
I'm extremely productive, and I make a good living, and people seem to enjoy what I do.
Well, yes, you're extremely, and you're all those things, and you seem very well adjusted.
And, you know, you know, I got my problems, you know, but who doesn't?
You know, and weed makes me feel better about them.
One of my problems is that weed is illegal.
Yeah, you know, people say, people, have people said this to you, Doug?
They go, well, you smoke pot every day.
Does it even do anything for you anymore?
Like that, like somehow.
And my response to those people is, I don't know, do you drink coffee every day?
Does it still do something?
Do people smoke cigarettes every day?
Hey, by the way, do you take Prozac every day?
Does it do something for you?
Yeah, and when I, for whatever reason, like say a long flight to Amsterdam, need to take a day off from weed, I can do that.
Hang around somebody that's skipping coffee for a day.
What an a-hole.
Or cigarettes.
Yeah.
I mean, all those things.
They need those things.
That's what I hope to prove with Super High Me, at least in my case, and I think in many other people's case, I don't need marijuana.
I like it.
Right.
That's the distinction.
You know, and these sad alcoholics out there that have a serious problem, and no one would ever think to go back to making alcohol illegal.
Right.
I mean, people don't, they don't look at history.
You know, hey, how is prohibition traditionally worked?
Oh, horrible.
It created the mafia.
It created the underground.
It created Al Capone.
And we're doing the same thing today.
Where do you think gangs get their money from?
They get it from drugs.
They're not getting from breaking into people's houses and stealing DVD players.
It was right at that point.
Unfortunately, we lost our satellite hookup with Doug Benson, and that's where our conversation ended.
But I want to remind everybody, you can check out Doug Benson's new television show, premiering next week, November 5th at midnight on Comedy Central, called The Benson Interruption.
Okay, that was our good pal Doug Benson stopping by.
Make sure you check.
Oh, you know what?
I'm sorry.
I got to take this.
Gosh darn it.
Hang on.
Hey, it's Jimmy.
Who's this?
Hey, Jimmy, how you doing?
It's Moron.
Hey, Moron, what's going on, buddy?
Hi, Jimmy.
You know me.
I'm a good American.
Sure are.
I'm easily manipulated to vote against my own economic interests.
Bravo.
And while I have legitimate reasons to be angry, my anger is often misdirected at the wrong people.
But I do find comfort in the fact that my Lord, Jesus the Christ, hates exactly the same people that I do, Jimmy.
Well, what's on your mind today, Moron?
Did you see that lady start that fight at that Rand Paul thing?
Did you?
Jim?
You're kidding, right, Moron?
I know.
It's awful, right?
Horrible.
It's awful how she pretended to be a blonde and then ran with her sign ready to do something to Rand Paul.
That is me.
He's practically a celebrity, and you can't just have people running at you in disguises.
That is the dumbest...
Come on, Jim.
If someone ran up to you on the side wearing a wig in a disguise, you take them down.
No, I wouldn't, Moron.
Yes, you would, Jimmy.
No, I wouldn't, because that isn't what happened.
Of course you're on her side.
Liberal, gay.
Gay, it's not about being on his side or her side.
The guy, Tim Proffitt, a Rand Paul supporter, stomped on her head when she was laying on the street and her head was on the curb.
How on God's earth is that okay with you?
And what does that mean?
She started it.
Well, what?
She's an activist with that moveon.org.
She knew what she was doing.
Why do you keep saying she was an activist?
What do you mean by that?
Yeah, she worked for that moveon.org, those lefties.
So she knew what she was doing.
I don't know what you mean by she knew what she was doing.
She was there with a sign to protest someone.
As an activist.
And then the people who disagreed with her threw her on the ground and stomped on her head.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, well, Moran, is that okay to do?
Yeah, because she's an activist.
The guy who stomped on her head, isn't he an activist?
I mean, isn't he at that political rally, too?
Yeah, but he's not a liberal.
He's just a regular American.
Yeah, but he's active in politics.
Doesn't that make him an activist?
I'm just giving you facts and good ideas.
That lady is an activist, and she got what was coming to her.
So you're telling me that if you disagree with someone politically and they show up at a political event with a sign, you can throw them down on the ground and stomp on their heads?
Not exactly, but you're close.
I think, Moron, it's really it's an upsetting trend.
You know, like, how about up in Alaska, Joe Miller, his schoons had a reporter in handcuffs when he asked a question.
And then now these people are stomping on someone's head because she wanted to flash a sign at Rand Paul.
Moron, I think that's a false equivalency.
Can you give me an example of how there was violence like that on the other side?
Yeah, well, how about those guys that show up with the guns on at the Obama?
Oh, that's the wrong thing.
See, Moron, that's why that's known as a false equivalency.
Because hippies are not the equivalent of maniacs who come to rallies with guns and beat the crap out of people they disagree with.
Those aren't equivalent.
Yeah, but Jim, she knew exactly what she was doing.
She got involved actively on purpose.
So are you telling me, Moron, that if someone gets involved in politics actively on purpose, then it's okay for you to beat the crap out of them?
You get it.
What the hell is that?
Oh, that's the topsy-turvy tomato treat, Teresa.
So what?
It's the revolutionary way to grow tomatoes.
You just set it up on the deck, and then if it gets cold, you can pull it into the garage.
I'm not gonna spend all day setting this thing up.
Terese, it sets up in like five minutes, and it can hold three plants in just one planner.
What?
Yeah, want to grow peppers in the second slot?
Yes.
Well, go for it.
One zucchini in the third opening?
Okay.
Perfect.
With the topsy turby tree, you can add your own hanging garden.
Like in a miniature.
It sounds romantic.
It's not romantic.
It's just tomatoes.
This thing is sound just romantic.
Put them on a sandwich.
I'm going to say it.
All right.
Why can't you do something romantic?
What's so bad a little bit romantic?
Would it kill you?
You know what?
Okay, Jimmy.
Just go.
I gotta go.
Just go, buddy.
Cisco.
Cisco.
Okay, that was our main man moron calling to talk about the Rand Paul head stomping.
Thanks, Martin.
I really look forward to the...
What is it?
The Topsy Turbo?
The tomato tree.
The tomato trees, man.
So zucchini goes in the third slot.
The third, if you want.
Yeah, all right.
Oh, you can grow peppers in the second slot.
It's really, it's up to you.
That's the beauty.
It gives you freedom, just like everything American.
That's what makes it good.
I want to thank everybody who helped make this show possible today.
How about my producer, Ali Lexa, getting it done?
Stephanie Zamarano.
And my guests, David Day, and Robert Yasimura, Ben Zalavansky, Paul Gilmartin, and a special assist by Ron Babcock, the voice of the Pole Watcher, Teabagger.
Thank you very much.
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