The Delingpod - James Delingpole - Sir Escanor
Aired: 2026-03-13
Duration: 01:44:01


=== Solid Gold And Silver (02:48) ===

[00:00:14]  Welcome to the Delling Pod with me, James Dellingpole.
[00:00:18]  And I know I always say I'm excited about this special guest.
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[00:00:32]  Silver prices, especially.
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[00:00:55]  Well, there were lots of reasons why you should have physical gold and silver as an insurance against continued decline of fiat currency, the uncertainties in the conventional stock markets.
[00:01:06]  I would definitely, I mean, I'm not a financial advisor, I would definitely have some physical gold and silver.
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[00:01:56]  Will silver go up again?
[00:01:58]  Yes, probably.
[00:01:59]  Will it go down again?
[00:02:00]  Yes, probably.
[00:02:01]  But I would say you should have some silver and gold in some form, as long as it's solid silver and solid gold, not paper gold.
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[00:02:14]  Forward slash.
[00:02:15]  James Dash Dellingpole.
[00:02:17]  Forward slash.
[00:02:23]  Um, welcome to the Delling POD.
[00:02:26]  Sir Eskinor, as i'm i'm going to call you.
[00:02:30]  I don't see why we need to know your real name.
[00:02:34]  I've been falsely doxxed a couple times.
[00:02:36]  We'll see how it goes.
[00:02:38]  Well okay yeah well, you can tell me a bit about yourself?
[00:02:41]  You can give me some clues.
[00:02:42]  I know you from Substack because I think part of the plan of the great Substack honey trap was to lure us all into this, onto this one website, so that they could limit our reach and and destroy us.

=== The Greatest Trick Revealed (15:39) ===

[00:03:02]  But in the meantime we have got to know some very readable, quotable voices and you're quite I mean, you're quite spicy.
[00:03:12]  It's pretty yes, that's one One, that's that's a mild way of putting it, quite spicy.
[00:03:17]  Yes, are you you look like you might be Hispanic?
[00:03:23]  No, I'm Greek.
[00:03:24]  I'm living in Mexico now, but I'm Greek from Canada.
[00:03:28]  Oh, okay, from Quebec, the French-speaking sport, right?
[00:03:34]  What do you mean you were you brought up?
[00:03:36]  You weren't brought up speaking French, were you?
[00:03:38]  No, I was brought up speaking Greek, English, learned French, and now Spanish.
[00:03:42]  So got a little bit going on.
[00:03:44]  And how is how is Mexico?
[00:03:48]  The best decision I ever made.
[00:03:50]  Getting out of Canada was by far the best decision I've ever made.
[00:03:54]  And anybody around me who's had the balls to make that decision is happier for it.
[00:03:59]  100%.
[00:04:01]  Yeah, I've got some Canadian friends who quit Canada for Costa Rica.
[00:04:06]  Right.
[00:04:07]  Same idea.
[00:04:08]  They're not regretting it.
[00:04:09]  Listen, I would be there with you like a shot if I didn't have family who would object to this.
[00:04:16]  I love the idea of fleeing to Mexico.
[00:04:19]  It's great.
[00:04:21]  And it's funny that I've been watching the news lately, like from the Canadian or American perspective.
[00:04:25]  Apparently, we're dying here.
[00:04:26]  It's on fire.
[00:04:27]  We're dying.
[00:04:29]  The civil unrest because of that, the cartel guy that got hit the other week, but nothing changed.
[00:04:35]  It was all AI.
[00:04:36]  All the videos were fake.
[00:04:37]  There's a restaurant down the street from my house that was apparently on fire.
[00:04:41]  I went, I was outside the restaurant.
[00:04:42]  It's perfectly fine.
[00:04:43]  I went to eat there.
[00:04:44]  It's all lies as usual.
[00:04:46]  That's interesting.
[00:04:47]  So you actually corroborated that because one hears rumors that they are fake.
[00:04:53]  They fake these incidents and they do it more and more.
[00:04:56]  But you actually saw for yourself 100%.
[00:05:00]  Yes.
[00:05:01]  That is really interesting.
[00:05:02]  I mean, I don't think it's a very surprising observation to say that you can't trust anything you see.
[00:05:10]  Anything ever.
[00:05:11]  It's all fake.
[00:05:12]  And we'll get into that, but it's, I'm just going to fix my camera giving a second.
[00:05:16]  But yeah, yeah.
[00:05:16]  It's all fake.
[00:05:17]  All of it.
[00:05:18]  Every single part of it.
[00:05:20]  I don't think they're going to be able to fake me, Sir Eskinoff.
[00:05:25]  Yeah, unfortunately, it's not about me and you.
[00:05:28]  No, that's true.
[00:05:30]  Well, they're making damn sure that.
[00:05:31]  I mean, they're not even bothering to kill us anymore, are they?
[00:05:36]  They don't need to.
[00:05:39]  I think it's much more sinister than that.
[00:05:42]  Much more and more, you know, dubious.
[00:05:46]  I think that they're actually using the truther community to evangelize the B system and to bring it forward and to build it.
[00:05:55]  Right.
[00:05:56]  So it's useful to them.
[00:05:59]  We're we've the devil's greatest trick.
[00:06:05]  Sorry, I'm just going to get to get this good.
[00:06:19]  It's okay.
[00:06:19]  It wasn't, it wasn't for me.
[00:06:21]  All good.
[00:06:25]  Carry on with that depressing thought that we are.
[00:06:27]  So you and I and people like us are basically accelerating the arrival of the B system.
[00:06:37]  More than that, I think the devil's greatest trick is recruiting his opposition.
[00:06:41]  And I think that if you want to take like a little bit of a historical context or material we could read, if you look at Helena Blavatsky, who was the theosophist of theosophists, Luciferians, the Great Awakening, the coming Aquarian New Age, they have tried, they have wanted the underground truther community to build a rebellion against the current system.
[00:07:08]  And they're seeding the dissent within us to attack our, I would call them parasitic controllers.
[00:07:15]  So all of a sudden, we're being fed.
[00:07:18]  You can't turn on the television or any screen without being angry at the government, at the financial industry, at the whole world, big pharma, big tech, military-industrial complex.
[00:07:29]  They're literally pointing us to our enemy to aggravate us, to get us angry, so we could rise up and destroy them and build the new system out of the ashes of the old, tying in biblical prophecy to the deception, right?
[00:07:44]  Yes.
[00:07:46]  This sounds vaguely similar.
[00:07:50]  Correct me if I'm wrong to the theory that there are Satanists and Luciferians, and they're showing us the Satanists in order to usher in this new kind of age of light.
[00:08:11]  And actually, that's the trick.
[00:08:14]  Yeah, it's part of the trick.
[00:08:18]  I'll explain it in a way that I think anybody could relate to, right?
[00:08:22]  If we're talking sci-fi, magical type movies, right?
[00:08:27]  The story is always the same.
[00:08:29]  There's some kind of oddball-born chosen one who's from the dark side, but born into the light.
[00:08:36]  He's kind of a half-breed kind of entity.
[00:08:39]  And he's the one that could merge both the right side magic and the left side magic, unify all of humanity.
[00:08:46]  What I think they're doing is that they're using a satanic black magic.
[00:08:55]  They're forcing the images of the black magicians into our faces so we can demand help to rebel against them and for our liberation.
[00:09:07]  And they're seeding us the heroes that are going to do, that are going to, I would guess I would say they're going to lead our vehicle to freedom for us.
[00:09:16]  But what's truly happening is that they're tying in biblical prophecy to what they want to do.
[00:09:20]  Because, and I'll explain it from the Epstein.
[00:09:23]  First, I'll do the Epstein list, right?
[00:09:26]  How do they use truth to deceive us?
[00:09:29]  A lot of what's going on in the Epstein list is true.
[00:09:32]  And it's all things that we know, but it's coming to light, right?
[00:09:35]  And all the, and it's, and it's, it's, it's causing shockwaves throughout all the world.
[00:09:40]  But what are they doing with a selected messaging?
[00:09:43]  They're going after pillars that hold up society.
[00:09:45]  They're going after the military.
[00:09:47]  They're going after the governments.
[00:09:49]  They're going after schools.
[00:09:52]  They're going after all of these different facets of society, the pillars that are rotting, that they need replacing with an updated version, which would tie in more with transhumanism and technocracy.
[00:10:04]  They want to rebuild the structures, but they want us to hammer them down and rebuild them ourselves through our free will.
[00:10:12]  That's like the short version to explain it.
[00:10:15]  Okay.
[00:10:17]  But I'm not seeing much evidence that we're doing any of that hammering down and rebuilding.
[00:10:25]  We're only doing it with words.
[00:10:27]  Right.
[00:10:29]  I'm not talking about us ourselves, but I'll give you one example.
[00:10:35]  They're going to tank all the systems.
[00:10:38]  The financial system is an easy one to understand, right?
[00:10:40]  There's no B system without crypto.
[00:10:42]  There's just no such thing as a B system without crypto.
[00:10:45]  Without cryptocurrency, they can't tie our finances.
[00:10:49]  They can't tokenize them.
[00:10:51]  They can't control us through our finances without a cryptocurrency.
[00:10:56]  So the US dollar, the banksters, must fall to replace them with the crypto.
[00:11:03]  And the banksters have been oppressing us for hundreds of years, if not millennia.
[00:11:08]  So we want them to come down.
[00:11:10]  Our goals are actually aligned with the controllers on this one, which is not a good sign for me, typically speaking.
[00:11:18]  And conversely, I'll give you another version of how our goals align in ways that people don't necessarily see.
[00:11:25]  So, what's interesting, Babylon, which is Israel, right?
[00:11:29]  Which must fall, the whore of Babylon, replaced by the beast.
[00:11:34]  For Jewish messianic prophecy to come to fruition, they need two things to happen amongst many, but it's two things that in particular, right?
[00:11:44]  They need the world to turn on Israel.
[00:11:47]  They need the world to hate them.
[00:11:49]  They want the world to hate them.
[00:11:52]  And secondly, what must happen is two-thirds of Jews in Israel must die, must be sacrificed.
[00:11:59]  So they want the world to hate them and they want most of their own to be sacrificed in order to bring forward their Messiah.
[00:12:06]  Interestingly enough, the truther community and anybody with half a heart in the world also wants them to fall because they're bombing kids.
[00:12:14]  So I want this to happen.
[00:12:16]  But the problem is, is that when that happens, what will replace it?
[00:12:21]  That's the problem.
[00:12:23]  Yeah.
[00:12:26]  Whoa, it's hard to imagine an even worse world than the one we live in.
[00:12:35]  You know what's funny?
[00:12:37]  And I don't mean that funny like haha funny, but I don't think it's going to be a worse, worse.
[00:12:45]  It's going to be a delusion, man.
[00:12:47]  Like, look at it this way.
[00:12:50]  The new system won't be.
[00:12:52]  Look, they're using two mechanisms to drive us forward into the B system.
[00:12:57]  They're using what I call the whip, which is that 2030, 1984 dystopian surveillance policing idea.
[00:13:07]  So we're afraid of this happening, right?
[00:13:09]  So Palantir, all of these things are coming in one side, and we're trying to avoid this.
[00:13:15]  Now, at the same time, on the other side, they're ushering in the benefits of AI, the benefits of transhumanism, of unity, of how we can all become better, how we can one-world religion.
[00:13:27]  So on one hand, there's a whip that's whipping us in one direction.
[00:13:31]  And on the other side, there's a harrow, there's a carrot that they're using to lure us.
[00:13:34]  But both directions are converging towards the B system.
[00:13:39]  So one way or another, whether you're taking either path forward, the transhuman and the technocratic agenda is on both sides at all times.
[00:13:54]  Where are you coming from in your religious vault and Xiaomi?
[00:14:02]  You're Greek.
[00:14:04]  Were you brought up Orthodox?
[00:14:05]  Yeah, of course.
[00:14:06]  Yeah.
[00:14:08]  And are you Orthodox?
[00:14:10]  Look, man, this is the thing, right?
[00:14:14]  This is a conversation.
[00:14:15]  I don't know if I want to get into this conversation because people are going to lose their minds.
[00:14:19]  But in the last, look, I want to be is the answer.
[00:14:26]  I would love to be.
[00:14:28]  I would love it.
[00:14:28]  If it was like, if I believed that, it would make me happy, right?
[00:14:32]  But I've come to a point in my life where I decided, you know what, screw everything that anybody's ever told me.
[00:14:39]  I don't believe nothing.
[00:14:40]  I don't believe the priests.
[00:14:41]  I don't believe the news.
[00:14:43]  I don't believe even what my parents told me.
[00:14:45]  I don't want to believe nothing.
[00:14:46]  I said, you know what?
[00:14:47]  I'm going to go back.
[00:14:49]  I'm going to grab a Greek lexicon and I'm going to translate everything myself, do all the work myself, not use what some scholar says, what some rabbi scholar, biblical scholar, none of that.
[00:15:01]  I'm going to do what I'm going to do and I'm going to figure it out.
[00:15:04]  And when I decided to do that, look, man, I've been a truth for a long time.
[00:15:10]  I've broken my heart several times in my life to get to where I am.
[00:15:14]  You know, the only difference between me and most people is I've seen way too many of my heroes turn to villains.
[00:15:20]  They just keep turning into fucking villains over and over.
[00:15:22]  And eventually I learned the lesson.
[00:15:24]  But when it comes to the Bible, when I did the work myself, my heart shattered into a million pieces.
[00:15:31]  It's so bad.
[00:15:32]  The conclusions that I've come to are so abhorrent that it really broke my heart.
[00:15:40]  And I don't know how to move forward.
[00:15:41]  And I don't know how to break it to people either because it's literally the worst news you could ever imagine.
[00:15:47]  Right.
[00:15:47]  So with that.
[00:15:49]  Thanks, Eskino, for making our day.
[00:15:57]  So, well, okay, are you going to tell me what this depressing thing is?
[00:16:00]  So let me just get so you looked at the Septuagint.
[00:16:05]  Septuagint?
[00:16:06]  Yes, correct.
[00:16:07]  And you brushed up your ancient Greek.
[00:16:12]  So look, okay, I'll do it.
[00:16:13]  I'll tell you in a way that's kind of simple to wrap your mind around, right?
[00:16:20]  The first thing I did is, look, as you can tell from my content, I'm not a fan of Israel and the whole Jewish supremacy, none of that, right?
[00:16:30]  That stuff's not for me.
[00:16:33]  So I told myself, you know what?
[00:16:35]  I don't believe any of the history that you're telling us.
[00:16:37]  You know, that it was written in Hebrew, then translated to Greek and this and that, and all these stories.
[00:16:42]  And every person in the story is a Jew and I have to believe all this.
[00:16:46]  And everybody just takes it for granted, right?
[00:16:48]  So I said, you know what?
[00:16:48]  I don't believe that.
[00:16:50]  So I'm going to go back and try to figure out: is that true?
[00:16:53]  And the first thing I realized is that, you know, about the Dead Sea Scrolls, right?
[00:17:00]  That whole treasure trove that they found, right?
[00:17:04]  What's interesting is that they found it a year after Israel became a country.
[00:17:07]  I'm sure that's just a coincidence, right?
[00:17:09]  But also what's interesting is that if you study what actually happened when they found the cave, the story is absurd.
[00:17:17]  It's just some kid that threw a rock and it happened to go into the cave and he went in and he found all these manuscripts.
[00:17:22]  But what they don't tell you is that they found over 900 scrolls in there and that every scroll they found in Hebrew, they also found written in Greek.
[00:17:33]  And the Greek versions, like of Daniel, were more complete with extra parts.
[00:17:39]  And the cult that lives there, lived there, the cult of Qumran, I think they're called, just to imagine these are the people that were taking their words.
[00:17:50]  Look, they say that the New Testament was written in Hebrew because the cult of Qumran corroborated this.
[00:17:57]  I looked into the cult of Qumran and I realized some really obscene things.
[00:18:00]  One, they're a bunch of castrated men.
[00:18:05]  That's not a good sign for me.
[00:18:07]  Number two, they wrote letters to the Pharisees, right?
[00:18:14]  The Pharisees are the synagogue of Satan.
[00:18:17]  They killed Jesus.
[00:18:19]  So the cult of Qumran that gave us the Dead Sea Scrolls wrote letters to the Pharisees telling them, you guys are way too lenient with your Judaism.
[00:18:30]  You guys need to bring it up a notch because you guys are losing touch with Judaism.
[00:18:35]  So the Pharisees, the demons, were too angelic for the cult of Qumran.

=== Obscene Cult Of Qumran (03:25) ===

[00:18:42]  I can't take anything they say.
[00:18:44]  You know, everything they say for me is, I don't believe none of it.
[00:18:47]  So I did the work myself again.
[00:18:50]  And what I realized is that ancient Hebrew only had about 8,000 words.
[00:18:57]  8,000 words.
[00:18:58]  Nothing.
[00:18:59]  You could go through the entire Hebrew lexicon in an afternoon talking with your friend.
[00:19:06]  Greek, ancient Greek in particular, has over a million words, a million.
[00:19:11]  Why does this matter?
[00:19:13]  I'll explain it to you.
[00:19:14]  Because you could take a quantum physics book and make it into a child's story, and it'll have meaning and value.
[00:19:22]  But you can't take a child's book and turn it into quantum physics.
[00:19:26]  You can't do the you can't add value through translation.
[00:19:28]  You could only lose.
[00:19:30]  So when I started comparing the Hebrew words to the Greek, the Greek was supposedly written afterwards, but the words written in Greek are always higher in meaning than the Hebrew words.
[00:19:44]  And I'll explain it to you.
[00:19:46]  In the Garden of Eden, Garden of Eden, in Greek, it says the garden of pleasure, first of all.
[00:19:51]  That's what's written.
[00:19:52]  Garden of pleasure.
[00:19:53]  What do you mean, pleasure?
[00:19:54]  I never read that anywhere.
[00:19:56]  Why is it written garden of pleasure in Greek?
[00:19:58]  And nobody's ever told me about that.
[00:20:01]  Weird thing, number one.
[00:20:03]  It says that God put Adam to sleep in the garden.
[00:20:09]  When you look at the Greek, it doesn't say that.
[00:20:12]  It says God put Adam in ecstasy in the garden of pleasure, which sounds more correct.
[00:20:22]  So why did that happen?
[00:20:23]  Because Greeks have over 15 words to describe different states of consciousness.
[00:20:28]  Whether you're asleep, you're awake, you're seeing through the veil and different drugs and theogens.
[00:20:35]  Hebrew's highest word on the pendulum for mental state is sleep.
[00:20:42]  So why in one in the Hebrew it's written sleep, and in Greek it's written ecstasy.
[00:20:47]  Are you telling me that the Greek-speaking rabbis saw sleep and all decided and agreed to replace it with ecstasy when the word sleep exists in Greek?
[00:20:59]  That doesn't make logical sense.
[00:21:01]  But what does make sense is that ecstasy was written in Greek and the closest matching word in Hebrew was sleep.
[00:21:08]  So they had to fit what they had to work with within that.
[00:21:13]  And when I started doing this exercise, everything I learned was a lie.
[00:21:20]  Everything I was ever told was a lie.
[00:21:22]  It doesn't say anything that I thought it said anywhere in the Bible, pretty much for the most part.
[00:21:29]  And that was the beginning of breaking my heart when it comes to that.
[00:21:32]  Okay.
[00:21:33]  Just let me pause you.
[00:21:35]  This is very interesting.
[00:21:38]  I don't have to talk about this, but I haven't attempted this myself yet, so I can't corroborate any of your findings.
[00:21:43]  But I imagine that you can't be the first person to have intuited that the Greek is much more sophisticated and supple than, and that therefore perhaps this tells us that the Septuagint is more trustworthy than the Masoretic text for starters, but the Orthodox know that anyway.

=== Jesus Was Not A Man (09:39) ===

[00:22:07]  But so how does this well?
[00:22:11]  Go on, tell me, tell me what else you found.
[00:22:14]  What conclusions are truth?
[00:22:16]  Some of them are really, you know, my certain, like I told you, I wasn't planning to talk about this, and this one's like a, it's really a dagger in the chest.
[00:22:23]  I'm telling you.
[00:22:24]  So like I had to say something that's going to shock you.
[00:22:30]  I'll just ask you a question.
[00:22:31]  I'm going to ask you a question of what you think, and then I'm going to tell you the reality of the situation.
[00:22:37]  And then I'm going to show you the disparity in what we were told.
[00:22:40]  Okay.
[00:22:41]  Think about this.
[00:22:43]  It's going to be a bad one.
[00:22:43]  I'm telling you, people are going to crucify me for this one.
[00:22:46]  I'm telling you right now.
[00:22:49]  Okay.
[00:22:51]  When you think of the Last Supper, right?
[00:22:53]  Michelangelo's Last Supper.
[00:22:56]  You think of Jesus and the disciples, and they're having the Last Supper, obviously.
[00:22:59]  When you envision the disciples in your mind, right?
[00:23:04]  What do you think of?
[00:23:05]  You know, you think of like some bearded dudes with like long hair.
[00:23:10]  That's is that what you're thinking?
[00:23:12]  When you think of what the disciples look like, what do you think they look like?
[00:23:15]  Just tell me, are they like bearded men with long hair?
[00:23:18]  I've probably been influenced by the Leonardo painting.
[00:23:23]  So I probably think of Jesus with his long hair and his beard and the other, yeah, the other disciples.
[00:23:29]  Like more or less, that's what you're thinking in your mind, right?
[00:23:34]  Don't think they've got alien heads or anything like that.
[00:23:36]  Right.
[00:23:37]  Right.
[00:23:38]  Okay.
[00:23:38]  Right.
[00:23:39]  Here's the thing, though.
[00:23:43]  How old were the disciples?
[00:23:46]  Have you ever asked yourself that question?
[00:23:50]  Oh, I'm thinking kind of what?
[00:23:58]  Late early 30s?
[00:24:02]  Here's the reality check you're going to need.
[00:24:04]  They were 12 to 16 years old, with the exception of possibly Paul, who was maybe 19 because he was previously married.
[00:24:14]  So they were 12 to 16-year-old boys, the disciples.
[00:24:25]  Excuse me?
[00:24:28]  When he recruited them, when they were commanding their necks and stuff, or by the time of the Last Supper.
[00:24:34]  When he died, they were 12 to 15 years old.
[00:24:40]  How do you know that?
[00:24:41]  You could check it up.
[00:24:42]  Scholars corroborate it, but nobody ever talks about it.
[00:24:45]  Ever.
[00:24:46]  I've never heard anybody talk about it.
[00:24:48]  And you could go on the internet right now and ask an AI or ask Google, say, how old were the disciples?
[00:24:53]  And it'll tell you what I just told you.
[00:24:55]  But nobody's ever mentioned that in my life ever.
[00:24:57]  Not once.
[00:24:58]  Not one person ever.
[00:25:01]  And I mean, that is very interesting.
[00:25:04]  So where will I find this information?
[00:25:08]  It's readily available.
[00:25:10]  There's no secret about it.
[00:25:11]  Just check the age of the disciples and you'll be able to find it all.
[00:25:15]  When did they say that?
[00:25:17]  In the perceptual event.
[00:25:19]  Well, there's that.
[00:25:21]  And there's also corroborating books that they themselves wrote.
[00:25:25]  And people were able to deduce their age from it.
[00:25:28]  And there's other scholars who have written about them when they saw them, how they looked.
[00:25:33]  So when you corroborate all that, and this is, it's not me making this up.
[00:25:37]  A biblical scholar will never tell you this, but if you ask him, he knows.
[00:25:43]  Okay.
[00:25:44]  So let's accept that they're between 12 and what did you say?
[00:25:48]  16, yeah.
[00:25:49]  12 and 16.
[00:25:50]  12 and 16, except for Paul.
[00:25:52]  So when Jesus met them, they were like nine or ten.
[00:26:02]  What I can tell you, look, I'm going to ask you another question.
[00:26:06]  This is going to be so bad.
[00:26:07]  This is going to be a real bad one, too.
[00:26:09]  If you walked into a room right now in the middle of the night, let's see, you're outside, you just walk into a house for whatever reason, you walk in, and you walk in, and you see a 30-year-old man washing the feet of 12-year-old boys.
[00:26:24]  what are you going to tell yourself what you're thinking you're thinking that I don't know what I'm thinking.
[00:26:36]  I'm asking you, what are you going to tell yourself?
[00:26:39]  If you walked into a room at like, let's say, midnight, into a, you know, like into a little shack, let's say you mistaken your house and you walked into a shack, whatever happened.
[00:26:48]  And you see a 30-year-old man washing the feet of 12-year-old boys.
[00:26:54]  What will you think?
[00:26:57]  Well, I'd probably be a bit suspicious.
[00:27:05]  You would.
[00:27:07]  Yeah.
[00:27:08]  So is that part of your thesis that Jesus was gay?
[00:27:16]  Much worse than that.
[00:27:19]  Honestly.
[00:27:19]  And I don't want to say that because I'm not against Christianity per se, right?
[00:27:24]  I think it's the better option compared to a lot of things, right?
[00:27:27]  And I appreciate a lot of the morals and ideals it brings forward.
[00:27:32]  But I've come to realize that I think, as usual, everything we've been told is a lie.
[00:27:38]  They pervert the damnedness of things and present them to us as pure, and we idolize them none the wiser, right?
[00:27:47]  So it's really bad.
[00:27:49]  Let's just put it there.
[00:27:51]  Well, I'm just amazed that if the disciples were really that young, no one has ever pointed this out.
[00:28:00]  I know.
[00:28:00]  How crazy is that?
[00:28:02]  Why has I to do a search now?
[00:28:06]  I'm going to search on my brave brows because I don't want to do Google.
[00:28:10]  How old?
[00:28:10]  Yeah, I'll do this.
[00:28:13]  ...were Jesus' disciples.
[00:28:22]  Oh, here we are.
[00:28:25]  The disciples likely were very young.
[00:28:31]  13 to 15.
[00:28:33]  If you read the cultural context under.
[00:28:43]  I just searched it on Google and it told me, oh man, even the answers are not good, right?
[00:28:49]  Cultural context in the first century Jewish tradition, young man started studying with a rabbi at 13 to 15 years old.
[00:29:00]  All right.
[00:29:03]  Okay.
[00:29:07]  I mean, I have to say, it's not a deal-breaker for me discovering that the disciples were young.
[00:29:14]  I am genuinely surprised that this stuff is, you're right.
[00:29:18]  I'm looking now and I'm thinking.
[00:29:20]  I'm breaking it to you as gently as I can.
[00:29:26]  Okay.
[00:29:28]  So Jesus recruits this bunch of young men for whatever reason.
[00:29:36]  What do you think that tells us?
[00:29:38]  I don't know what it tells us, but I'll tell you something else.
[00:29:41]  Look, I'm not giving you the answers.
[00:29:43]  I'm going to ask questions, right?
[00:29:44]  And my answers are, I don't even want to verbalize what I think.
[00:29:50]  it's so bad right um let's look at it okay So Jesus was walking around with disciples, which were 12, 13, 14, 15-year-old boys and prostitutes.
[00:30:04]  That's who he was walking around with the majority of the time, right?
[00:30:07]  Okay.
[00:30:08]  Here's an interesting little thing.
[00:30:11]  In Greek, the word for priestess and prostitute are interexchangeable because the priestess was also a prostitute because it was all sex magic, right?
[00:30:26]  Back in the day.
[00:30:27]  So Jesus was walking around with a bunch of young boys and priestesses.
[00:30:34]  Look, I don't know, but that's not, you know, when I was my whole life, when I thought Jesus was walking down, you know, trying to evangelize the world, I thought he was walking around with a bunch of disciples that were grown men and some prostitutes, which were, you know, that saw the light.
[00:30:51]  He helped them, you know, change their ways.
[00:30:55]  But I've come to realize that he was walking around with young boys and priestesses who were into potential sex magic because they're priestesses, prostitutes.
[00:31:05]  This is not the version, this is not exactly what most people have ever even been allowed to even think about ever.
[00:31:15]  And the thing is, is that when you translate it to Hebrew and then to any other language, it takes the dumbest version of the phrase.
[00:31:24]  It makes it like a grade, like instead of it being a PhD-level thesis, it becomes a grade two version coloring book.
[00:31:31]  So from walking around with a bunch of boys and priestesses, he's walking around with a bunch of disciples and prostitutes, and he's making everybody better.
[00:31:39]  It's not the same story at all.
[00:31:42]  Just from the translation, nothing else.

=== Bible Translations Are Dumb (05:25) ===

[00:31:46]  Yes.
[00:31:48]  I see that.
[00:31:49]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:50]  And I get your point about the relative basicness of the basic, like everything you, everything you're thinking, even, you know, even the image we have of Jesus in our minds is bullshit, 100% bullshit, right?
[00:32:07]  It's the, what do you call him?
[00:32:09]  What was his name?
[00:32:13]  The image most of us have of Jesus in our mind was the drawing, the painting of that guy's lover.
[00:32:18]  I forgot his name.
[00:32:20]  The painter's lover.
[00:32:25]  I'm having a brief.
[00:32:28]  You don't believe that the image on the Turing Shroud is the imprint of Christ's face?
[00:32:35]  Look, I don't like when people take an artifact, do all these tests behind closed doors, lock it up, and don't let anybody who's not initiated even look at the data.
[00:32:47]  I don't like that.
[00:32:48]  For me, it's the same thing with dinosaurs, right?
[00:32:52]  Listen to this.
[00:32:53]  This is crazy, right?
[00:32:54]  About dinosaurs.
[00:32:55]  This is another subject, but just to show you how crazy things are.
[00:32:58]  And I don't know of the truth, but I do.
[00:33:00]  I'm really good at spotting bullshit.
[00:33:02]  That's what I do.
[00:33:03]  I'm not here to tell anybody what the truth is, but I am very good at telling you this is a lie and explaining to you why it's a lie.
[00:33:10]  You know, what the truth is behind that, we can all speculate.
[00:33:12]  But like dinosaurs, right?
[00:33:14]  We have this idea of dinosaurs, right?
[00:33:19]  How many fragments of bones and full bones of dinosaurs have supposedly ever been excavated?
[00:33:29]  Full bones or fragments of actual dinosaurs?
[00:33:35]  How many do you think we've had ever total?
[00:33:38]  If I had to guess.
[00:33:40]  Yes.
[00:33:41]  What's the number that makes sense?
[00:33:42]  I'd say zero.
[00:33:45]  Okay.
[00:33:46]  Right.
[00:33:50]  Okay.
[00:33:52]  That's a good answer.
[00:33:55]  But I'll tell you what they did do.
[00:33:57]  Supposedly they found, I think the number is like a dozen or so, right?
[00:34:04]  But look, let's just say that's true.
[00:34:06]  There's a dozen.
[00:34:07]  Let's just say that is the truth.
[00:34:10]  They're held behind lock and key.
[00:34:13]  Nobody can observe them.
[00:34:15]  There's not a single one in display anywhere in the world.
[00:34:19]  We have a dozen or so bone fragments, but they give us books with thousands of types of dinosaurs.
[00:34:28]  What the hell is going on here?
[00:34:31]  Even if what you're telling me is true, you have 50 fragments, say 100, whatever the number.
[00:34:36]  It's not, it's 12.
[00:34:37]  It's like 15, 12, 16.
[00:34:40]  How do you have hundreds of types of dinosaurs?
[00:34:43]  How?
[00:34:43]  How did this happen?
[00:34:45]  Where's the jump?
[00:34:46]  Where's the missing 500 links here that you're telling me this bullshit story with?
[00:34:52]  It's the same thing with the Bible.
[00:34:55]  Everything they're using to build you this story is held under lock and key, and everything you're reading is a bastardized translation.
[00:35:03]  Where do you stand?
[00:35:04]  You have no fucking idea where you're standing.
[00:35:06]  Nobody has any idea what the hell is going on.
[00:35:12]  Certainly, as my listeners and viewers have often heard, I do often describe Christianity as the biggest of all the rabbit holes.
[00:35:25]  And it's very true.
[00:35:29]  You can't help notice if you approach the subject with a degree of honesty that it's very, very hard to know whom to trust and what to trust and what to discount for reasons like the various schisms within the church.
[00:35:56]  The church can't agree on.
[00:35:58]  The organized religion, forget about it.
[00:35:59]  We don't even need to talk about it.
[00:36:00]  It's a cesspool.
[00:36:01]  It's the devil's asshole.
[00:36:03]  It's disastrous.
[00:36:06]  And so what you're left with is this thing called faith.
[00:36:14]  And it's either the faith is the kind of desperation of people who don't want to be disappointed.
[00:36:26]  Or it's, as I'd probably argue, it's the way God arranged it.
[00:36:32]  He never wanted it to be so that you so that you would definitely, definitely know.
[00:36:38]  Because if you did definitely know, it wouldn't be about faith anymore.
[00:36:42]  It wouldn't be about that kind of that thing that exists despite logic and despite empiricism and despite all the other things that we were encouraged to think of, particularly in the Enlightenment, as the kind of the measures by which we should judge everything.
[00:37:03]  I mean, that's a long answer, but I suppose I'm sort of playing the, well, I'm not being the devil's advocate this year.
[00:37:10]  I've been the Jesus advocate in this case.

=== Resurrection Is A Scam (07:41) ===

[00:37:12]  Yeah, right.
[00:37:13]  And, you know, and look, to head back to what we were saying at the beginning of the conversation with how the current system must fall.
[00:37:21]  Well, if the current system is Babylon, the whore of Babylon, you know, it's Israel.
[00:37:27]  That's the dark magicians.
[00:37:29]  They're headquartered there.
[00:37:30]  What is rising up as a result of that?
[00:37:34]  Christian nationalism is rising.
[00:37:36]  Christian nationalism is rising in an effort to offset global warming is a massive con.
[00:37:47]  There is no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem that is going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it.
[00:37:58]  It's a non-existent problem.
[00:38:00]  But how do you explain this stuff to your normie friends?
[00:38:05]  Well, I've just brought out the revised edition to my 2012 classic book, Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land.
[00:38:27]  It's a shocking story.
[00:38:29]  I wrote it, as I say, in 2011, actually, the first edition came out.
[00:38:35]  And it's a snapshot of a particular era.
[00:38:39]  The era when the people behind the climate change scam got caught red-handed, tinkering with the data, torturing till it screamed in a scandal that I helped christen Climate Gate.
[00:38:53]  So I give you the background to the skullduggery that went on in these seats of learning where these supposed experts were reforming us.
[00:39:02]  We've got to act now.
[00:39:03]  I rumbled their scam.
[00:39:06]  I then asked the question, okay, if it is a scam, who's doing this and why?
[00:39:12]  It's a good story.
[00:39:14]  I've kept the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
[00:39:28]  I think it still stands out.
[00:39:29]  I think it's a good read.
[00:39:31]  Obviously, I'm biased, but I'd recommend it.
[00:39:33]  You can buy it from jamesdellingpole.co.uk forward slash shop.
[00:39:39]  You'll probably find that moment.
[00:39:40]  Just go to my website and look for it, jamesdellingpole.co.uk.
[00:39:44]  And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring around all those people who are still persuaded that, oh, it's a disaster.
[00:39:56]  We must amend our ways and appease the gods, appease Mother God.
[00:40:00]  There we go.
[00:40:00]  It's a scam.
[00:40:05]  Christian nationalism is rising.
[00:40:07]  Christian nationalism is rising in an effort to offset the Israeli occupation of the world.
[00:40:16]  So they're symbiotic, their relationship.
[00:40:19]  Both of them are needed to bring forth the control system.
[00:40:23]  You need the villain and you need the hero to rise to destroy it.
[00:40:27]  And they're both coming from the same stem, right?
[00:40:32]  They're both Judaic.
[00:40:34]  They're both Judaic in nature.
[00:40:36]  Guess one of them is playing off as the Israel pro the Israeli side.
[00:40:42]  The other one's the white Christians that are the white nationalist Christians, not the white specifically, that are rising to oppose it.
[00:40:49]  But this is all by design.
[00:40:53]  They've created a temple.
[00:40:55]  They corrupt it to the point where it bothers us and then they light it on fire and they want us to cheer for its destruction.
[00:41:03]  They want us involved in the business continuity of the B system.
[00:41:08]  We have to lift our shirts, lift our sleeves.
[00:41:11]  We got to destroy our enemy and we got to build our salvation.
[00:41:14]  But that's exactly what they want us to do.
[00:41:16]  We're actually falling right into the snare.
[00:41:20]  Okay.
[00:41:21]  Have you developed a sort of working theory to go with your shocking findings?
[00:41:29]  Where are you on?
[00:41:33]  If your thesis is correct and the whole story about Jesus was some kind of con, is that a fair summary?
[00:41:41]  No.
[00:41:42]  Con.
[00:41:44]  I'm not saying Jesus didn't exist.
[00:41:47]  It wasn't a person.
[00:41:47]  I'm not saying any of that.
[00:41:50]  I'm saying that.
[00:41:54]  That's so bad.
[00:41:56]  I'm saying, you know, I'll just say it.
[00:41:59]  Look, it's horrible.
[00:42:01]  They basically took an Epstein and made him into your idol.
[00:42:06]  That's basically what happened.
[00:42:08]  okay um all the and so you don't think jesus was crucified and rose from the dead Okay, so let's talk about that, right?
[00:42:24]  Okay.
[00:42:25]  In Greek, it doesn't say, for example, doesn't say, you know, It doesn't say anything about everlasting life.
[00:42:36]  It says that when you see Jesus, you know, when you get the Christ or whatever, however, you want to describe that, it says in Greek that you will get Ionian life, Ionian life.
[00:42:49]  What does that mean?
[00:42:50]  That means you get life outside of time and space, which is what happens when you consume entheogens.
[00:43:00]  The veil lifts, and you're outside of time and space.
[00:43:04]  You see through the veil.
[00:43:06]  This is what they're talking about in the Bible.
[00:43:07]  They're not talking about everlasting life.
[00:43:09]  They're not talking about dying and resurrection as a, as in the sense that we do as Christians.
[00:43:16]  They're saying that there's entheogens that Greeks have been using for thousands of years that allow you to see through the veil.
[00:43:25]  That some of them are death adders for lack.
[00:43:31]  They're death potions and they give you the resurrection salvation.
[00:43:36]  And through that state of almost death, you see the light, you see another veil.
[00:43:41]  It's all sex cult resurrection magic.
[00:43:44]  Same as the Babylonians, same as the ancient Greeks.
[00:43:47]  It's just when they translated everything from Greek, they took all of the scientific pharmacon mystery school knowledge and they ripped it out and they replaced it with a very basic understanding of the story.
[00:44:03]  So they basically took away all hints of magic, of and one of the first depictions of Jesus, he was holding a magic wand.
[00:44:17]  I don't know if you know about that either.
[00:44:19]  One of the first depictions we have of Jesus, he's holding a wand.
[00:44:23]  And there's other ones that were around dated around the same time where he's in a field of mushrooms.
[00:44:28]  So there are signs that there was, you know, prior to Jesus, sex, cult, resurrection, blood magic was the way to go.
[00:44:38]  That's what everybody was practicing in all pagan religions to different extents, right?
[00:44:43]  Some of them required a Kabbalistic trauma-type situation to harvest the ambrosia from the trauma victim.

=== Jesus Held A Magic Wand (15:30) ===

[00:44:54]  But there's a white path to do that where it requires consent and a willing priest.
[00:45:00]  And there's other mysteries that they practice to harvest that same ambrosia from the priest.
[00:45:08]  It's the same, you're doing the same type of rituals, but one of them requires fear and trauma, the other one requires consent.
[00:45:15]  But the end game, what you're harvesting from the individual, is the same.
[00:45:20]  It's just two paths to get to the same ending.
[00:45:24]  And I think these two paths are what diverged into Judaism and into Christianity.
[00:45:30]  And they're being set off against each other.
[00:45:32]  And the symbiosis of both of them is what the goal is.
[00:45:35]  I know it's a lot to, you know.
[00:45:40]  This, this must have, I can see why you found these discoveries quite traumatic.
[00:45:48]  Because what you thought you were going to, like a good, a good Orthodox boy, you were going to experience an afterlife.
[00:45:56]  And now you're thinking, well, this is it.
[00:46:01]  It's worse than that.
[00:46:02]  It's not even this is it.
[00:46:03]  No, that's not even, that's not even it.
[00:46:04]  It's, it's, I'm like, if this is the guy pushing an aphrolite, I want nothing to do with it.
[00:46:09]  I don't want to go there.
[00:46:10]  I don't give a shit about none of that.
[00:46:11]  I don't want nothing to do with that.
[00:46:12]  If that's where the good people go, I want out because that's nothing good about what I found out.
[00:46:18]  There's nothing good going on.
[00:46:19]  It's all bad.
[00:46:20]  It's horrible.
[00:46:21]  It'll be the equivalent of me saying, when I die, I want to end up where Epstein is.
[00:46:27]  That's how I look at it.
[00:46:28]  There's no fucking way I'm going there.
[00:46:30]  I'd rather burn in hell.
[00:46:31]  that's that's quite an extreme that's quite an extremely i know yeah um so what what do you think is going to happen to you when i die yeah i think there's no way of knowing but because there's no way of knowing i agree with socrates just because you don't know you shouldn't think the worst there's no way of knowing And so,
[00:47:01]  you know, if it's just the end, there's nothing to fear.
[00:47:03]  There's nothing to fear.
[00:47:04]  It's the end.
[00:47:05]  You won't even know.
[00:47:06]  And if there's something beyond that, I think that I've done what I could as honestly as possible and in a way to help people as much as possible to the best of my ability.
[00:47:18]  If I get crucified for that, I'll take it like a man.
[00:47:22]  I'll take the punch on the face like a man.
[00:47:24]  Beyond that, it's out of my hands.
[00:47:26]  I'm just living my life.
[00:47:27]  It is what it is.
[00:47:30]  Right.
[00:47:30]  Right.
[00:47:32]  So who in your in your theory, your hypothesis, who picked up all this, all this stuff?
[00:47:44]  Who picked up these stories about Jesus?
[00:47:46]  And I mean, who gave him all those good lines?
[00:47:50]  Because he's got some great lines.
[00:47:53]  Well, most of the, I would say most of the doctrine is, look, I'm Greek, so I have like a crutch and that's where I view the world from, right?
[00:48:06]  Like more easily, right?
[00:48:07]  But for me, I don't see a big difference between the version of Christianity that I've come to learn myself by doing the work myself and the in the old Bacchus, Dionysian, Orphic mysteries, which were basically sex cult magic.
[00:48:27]  I don't see no difference from Christianity of today.
[00:48:30]  And what's interesting is that it kind of makes sense because on one side, we have this broad spectrum Christianity that we've all thought was what it was.
[00:48:41]  But yet, behind the scenes in the organized religion, the pedophilia, the magic, the darkness, we all know it's there.
[00:48:51]  We all know it's there.
[00:48:52]  It's in the Vatican.
[00:48:53]  That's the real version that's empowering them.
[00:48:57]  That's giving them access to energies and consciousness and intelligences that is feeding them knowledge so they can come up over us, right?
[00:49:08]  We know that it's happening.
[00:49:10]  So I'm telling you that your version is the actual version.
[00:49:14]  And they've made this kindergarten version to fool us into thinking we could just sit patiently.
[00:49:20]  And because I believe in Jesus, I don't need to do anything.
[00:49:23]  I could just sit here, you know, the government, the world could just come in, kill me, take my kids, rape and pillage everything.
[00:49:33]  I'm going to heaven.
[00:49:34]  I'm good.
[00:49:35]  They're neutering us at the same time.
[00:49:38]  I have heard that charge laid against Christianity, that it is a kind of neutering.
[00:49:48]  Passive.
[00:49:49]  It's about surrender.
[00:49:51]  The reason why they did this, sorry to cut you off, but the reason why they did this is simple for me.
[00:49:57]  I see the steps of how they screwed us with our mentality, right?
[00:50:03]  Democracy was created by the ancient Greeks as an effort to escape tyrants.
[00:50:10]  That was the whole fucking point because the world was a dark place.
[00:50:14]  You could go, you're going to get food.
[00:50:16]  Next thing you know, you get kidnapped by a tribe.
[00:50:18]  God knows what's going on to you.
[00:50:21]  There was tyrants everywhere.
[00:50:22]  It was a hard place.
[00:50:23]  Living was not easy in the ancient world.
[00:50:26]  So, they created a democracy so that the regular people can sustain themselves and, you know, away from the tyrants.
[00:50:36]  For this, you know, you need a reasonable, rational mind to understand that, look, we got to do this now or it's the end of us.
[00:50:45]  What Christianity did is they replaced reason with faith.
[00:50:52]  So, people don't have a rational mind anymore because faith takes a step over it, right?
[00:50:58]  So, under faith, they won't necessarily take up arms because their rational mind is telling them to, because their faith is telling them to do otherwise.
[00:51:10]  And the third fork in this spell is when, hold on, it's back in my memory.
[00:51:19]  When Jean-Jacques Rousseau, the first Romance era philosopher, he was the first philosopher to convince, no, it's all bullshit.
[00:51:30]  Everything's bullshit, right?
[00:51:31]  But the version of history says he was the first philosopher to convince kings and all of the other philosophers that emotions can supersede rational rationale as well.
[00:51:44]  And this is why today we have, for example, the liberal left lunatics that think their emotions supersede reality or any rational thought.
[00:51:53]  So they've taken us from rational to faithful to emotional.
[00:51:59]  And now they're playing on our emotions to control us.
[00:52:02]  And this has happened over, you know, two millennia, I would say.
[00:52:07]  Right.
[00:52:11]  So the God that we Christians imagine as this kind of awe-inspiring and awful in his majesty and his wrath, but at the same time, loving and omnipotent and beneficent.
[00:52:36]  He created us in his image.
[00:52:42]  Where are you on that?
[00:52:44]  Look, this is my problem with that, right?
[00:52:48]  There's a creator, if that's what you're asking me.
[00:52:50]  There's definitely a creator.
[00:52:52]  And I don't think we were created.
[00:52:54]  I don't think this, I don't abide by the negative creation story, meaning that this is a prison planet type of thing, or that we're created as some type of slave or any of that.
[00:53:09]  It doesn't align with me, right?
[00:53:11]  But this is a problem that I do have with a modest idea of God, right?
[00:53:18]  God is one.
[00:53:19]  God is the ultimate.
[00:53:21]  What he says, his word, if you know, the Bible is either God's word or a playbook.
[00:53:26]  That's what I say to people.
[00:53:28]  Either way, you need to act accordingly, dude.
[00:53:30]  It doesn't matter if you believe in God, none of that.
[00:53:32]  They're using this playbook to fool the masses.
[00:53:34]  So they're aligning their goals as much with biblical prophecy as possible so that nobody pushes back on it, right?
[00:53:43]  But this is my problem.
[00:53:45]  And the pagan ideas, like the Greek pantheon, right?
[00:53:50]  Zeus is the Godhead.
[00:53:51]  Zeus is number one.
[00:53:53]  However, this is what I like about this idea.
[00:53:57]  And I'm not pagan, but this is what I could still entertain thoughts, right?
[00:54:01]  What I do like is that even though Zeus is the head honchel, he's still under orders or under contract to Lady Justice and to Nemesis.
[00:54:15]  So justice is supreme, which I believe.
[00:54:20]  Because if you believe this, I don't want to see kids getting bombed.
[00:54:23]  I want justice for that shit.
[00:54:25]  I don't want to wait for God or faith to fix this.
[00:54:28]  I want justice now.
[00:54:30]  Whereas in the monas Godhead, God is the supreme.
[00:54:34]  Justice does not apply to God.
[00:54:36]  God is justice.
[00:54:37]  What he says is justice.
[00:54:39]  And that creates nothing but injustice in the world.
[00:54:42]  That's my big problem with that philosophy.
[00:54:47]  Right.
[00:54:49]  I mean, I suppose this is sort of bound up in how we got made, what the deal is, why are we here, who made us, and what.
[00:55:02]  Yeah.
[00:55:03]  Yeah.
[00:55:07]  If presumably there is a top, a top dog, well, top God, intelligence, whatever.
[00:55:17]  Who created everything?
[00:55:19]  So why would he need to contract out?
[00:55:23]  I mean, it might be division of labor.
[00:55:26]  He might create justice in order to provide a sort of counterbaling influence on his, I don't know, when he gets too wrathful or whatever, or he needs a sort of team to back him up, to deal with his moods or whatever.
[00:55:40]  I could see that.
[00:55:41]  But ultimately, he created this stuff.
[00:55:45]  So I have this problem with the kind of Ikeans, with the with the sort of theosophists and stuff who the people who don't buy into that.
[00:56:02]  I suppose the reason I like the Christian narrative apart from anything else is it sort of it makes it makes sense to me.
[00:56:11]  It makes sense of man's place in God's creation.
[00:56:16]  And I do believe we were created.
[00:56:18]  I don't believe we were we evolved or I don't believe that we were created.
[00:56:22]  No, there's no evolution.
[00:56:23]  That's bullshit.
[00:56:24]  And so then you look at how we think and how we behave.
[00:56:29]  And we've all got, or those of us who aren't psychopaths anyway, have a moral compass.
[00:56:36]  We have a sense of what is right and what is wrong.
[00:56:38]  And we're drawing truth and beauty.
[00:56:41]  And this is kind of what C.S. Lewis was arguing in Mere Christianity.
[00:56:46]  I think C.S. Lewis was actually a secret Gnostic, but that's by the by.
[00:56:52]  C.S. Lewis was sort of laying out the terms for why we should believe in a benign, a benevolent creator.
[00:57:01]  And that makes sense to me.
[00:57:04]  Does it not make sense to you?
[00:57:06]  A benevolent creator?
[00:57:08]  To me, it does.
[00:57:10]  But I've entered, you know.
[00:57:12]  Oh, dear.
[00:57:13]  What are you about to say?
[00:57:15]  You know, it's look at it this way, right?
[00:57:20]  If there's one creator of all, okay, look, this is how I would justice, right?
[00:57:28]  Okay, let's talk about this.
[00:57:31]  God is good.
[00:57:34]  God is good.
[00:57:35]  Yeah.
[00:57:36]  We are light years below on that scale.
[00:57:40]  We're like, we're, you know, it's light years below.
[00:57:45]  So if you were to take somebody who's a, you know, a quote-unquote bad person, like let's just say, like, you know, the, the, the, I guess the villain everybody everybody loves to hate, right?
[00:57:54]  Like Hitler, right?
[00:57:55]  Hitler's like the most evil man that ever lived, blah, blah, blah.
[00:57:57]  Okay.
[00:57:58]  Well, people would say Hitler is light years under me in good.
[00:58:04]  But the problem that is that we're both light years away from God.
[00:58:07]  And to God, we're both, it's, you know, you're at the bottom of the pendulum as far as good goes.
[00:58:13]  There's no discrepancy between me and Hitler from that aerial view.
[00:58:18]  And in that perspective, you know, a creator of all doesn't play favorites either, right?
[00:58:25]  It's all my creation.
[00:58:26]  They're all loved by me and they're all at the same level, even though to them they're not.
[00:58:32]  So how do you so a God, a justice, a justice-thinking fair God would let the children play and learn their lessons themselves.
[00:58:42]  And this is what causes all of the shit that we're going through, basically.
[00:58:46]  This is why everything's turned to shit.
[00:58:48]  Because, and then, you know, then you, the follow-up question would be, because we don't know the answer to this, right?
[00:58:54]  If this is just, you know, this whole life is just an incubation state, like a cocoon, and then we flourish into something else, then all of this is bullshit and it doesn't matter.
[00:59:03]  And if we don't know the purpose of life, it's hard to, you know, I look at myself.
[00:59:09]  I don't go far.
[00:59:10]  What I think, I think I'm a good person.
[00:59:13]  Why do I think I'm a good person?
[00:59:14]  It's not because of all the smooth sailing I've had in my life.
[00:59:17]  It's because all the fucking bullshit that I've had in my life that I've had to overcome.
[00:59:20]  That's what made me a better person.
[00:59:22]  So when you look at life in that way, hurdles and obstacles are opportunities to better yourself.
[00:59:30]  So a God that wants you to be good and better will create these obstacles to better you for them, right?
[00:59:36]  So that's kind of how I look at the whole thing.
[00:59:39]  So I didn't get that.
[00:59:41]  He's created the obstacles to bury you.
[00:59:43]  To better you, better.
[00:59:45]  So better you.
[00:59:46]  Yes.
[00:59:47]  Yeah.
[00:59:48]  Yeah.
[00:59:48]  Yes.
[00:59:49]  And to what end?
[00:59:51]  That's the thing.
[00:59:52]  We don't know.
[00:59:53]  You know, we're speculating.
[00:59:54]  I don't know.
[00:59:55]  It's really, you know, who knows?
[00:59:57]  Until we know the, there's no way of knowing the end game.
[01:00:00]  So there's no way to justify anything up to that, right?
[01:00:05]  Like we, there's no way of actually knowing.
[01:00:07]  I'm just honest with myself.
[01:00:08]  And I admit it, look, we don't know.
[01:00:10]  And you could, you could have faith, you could think, you could believe, but at the end of the day, it doesn't change reality that we don't know.
[01:00:17]  And just because you have an interpersonal relationship with what you think is God, you know, that could be a host of things.

=== Christ Means Medical Term (12:20) ===

[01:00:24]  That could be manipulation.
[01:00:25]  It could be psychology, it could be psychological, or it could be actually God, but it could be many things other than that.
[01:00:32]  So it's not, you know, just because you have a personal experience doesn't prove shit in real life, right?
[01:00:38]  So it's complicated.
[01:00:40]  Yes, it is complicated.
[01:00:43]  But would one want to discard all the wonderful experiences that Christians have had in the last 2,000 years?
[01:00:59]  The dark ages?
[01:01:01]  The dark ages?
[01:01:05]  I don't know about the dark ages.
[01:01:06]  I don't know whether they even existed.
[01:01:08]  But I'm just talking about since Christianity began, you've had good people doing good things and lives being transformed for the better.
[01:01:22]  I'll agree.
[01:01:24]  By what you're characterizing as a kind of psyop, stroke, massive delusion, stroke, whatever.
[01:01:31]  I would suggest that maybe that prevents, that offers a valid counter-argument to your thesis that it's not.
[01:01:42]  I don't think so, because if we're talking in biblical terms, Lucifer is the angel of light, right?
[01:01:48]  He appears as an angel of light.
[01:01:50]  So on one side, you have this traumatic fear mechanism, and the other side that's trying to deceive you is unifying, welcoming, and loving.
[01:01:58]  You need that disparity.
[01:02:00]  They have to be opposites to guide you.
[01:02:04]  So you mean Lucifer is stepping in.
[01:02:06]  So all the kind of the miracles, all the miracle cures and stuff, and all the things like that Saint Pesios' experience when he was on Athos and all the kind of people like what's he called?
[01:02:28]  The evangelical person I got in my bathroom who could bring people back from the dead.
[01:02:35]  All this was actually Lucifer intervening for shits and giggles.
[01:02:42]  Not at all.
[01:02:43]  I would say it's all magic in a sense.
[01:02:46]  It's all entheogens, drug magic, pharmacology.
[01:02:51]  It's all witchcraft, you know, for lack of.
[01:02:54]  These people weren't on drugs.
[01:02:56]  You did the work on Athos taking.
[01:02:59]  Who wasn't on drugs?
[01:03:02]  Well, I'm suggesting that maybe Saint, well, to give one example, Saint Paisios is not taking drugs.
[01:03:11]  He's just communing with God.
[01:03:14]  All the people in the Philicalia who go out into the desert to wrestle with demons and stuff, I don't think there were drugs.
[01:03:22]  Oh, look, all of the, I'll tell you this: all of the terminology used in Christian mass or in Christian ritual, from the tabernacle to the cup of salvation to all of that is also used when you look at Greek in the Orphic Dionysian mystery school rituals.
[01:03:50]  They use the same terms, drink my, you know, drink my blood, my flesh.
[01:03:55]  All of these terms are also used in sex cult rituals as well.
[01:04:03]  So it's the same ritual, just that they took away the mystery from it and they translated into a more literal translation, you know, drink my actual blood or my actual flesh, but that's not what they're actually saying, right?
[01:04:22]  So it's the same.
[01:04:24]  I think it falls in line with how I view things because it's just that your term, like you, you would tell yourself, there's no way he took drugs, but what if you found out that the word Christ to Christ something is a medical term?
[01:04:41]  What if it's a medical term that means to rub in medications, poisons, or pharmacons?
[01:04:49]  If that's the case, which it is, by the way, then what is Jesus doing Christing?
[01:04:55]  What exactly is going on here?
[01:04:58]  Because there's a lot of parallels when you start reading the old Greek yourself and you start using a lexicon, you're like, holy shit.
[01:05:05]  And then you look at the English translation that's provided for you and you're like, that's not what the hell it's saying.
[01:05:13]  It's really not.
[01:05:14]  And I have, I have a lot of these.
[01:05:15]  I can show you, like, that's not what the hell it's writing there.
[01:05:17]  So it's all perverted.
[01:05:19]  So what does Christ mean in Greek?
[01:05:24]  It comes from the word chrio, right?
[01:05:26]  Which means, and they have epichrio.
[01:05:30]  There's different how I would translate it in English would be like to Christ, Christing, antichristing, and Christed.
[01:05:42]  But when you look at the terms, excuse me, when you look at the terms in the lexicon, the first or second meaning is always on any of those words, is always associated to pharmacology, drugs, and poisons.
[01:06:02]  And when you read the, listen to this, and when you read Galen, who was the Galen was the physician of Caesar, right?
[01:06:11]  Galen wrote more medical books than maybe anybody ever.
[01:06:16]  Okay.
[01:06:17]  And when you read Galen's book and he talks about Christing, he talks about Christing people's penises, Christing people's eyes, Christing them with drugs, Christ this, Christ that, Christing this, and then you're reading that, you're like, Holy shit, this guy's not talking about the same shit that's written in the Bible, although it's contemporary, it's contemporary writing.
[01:06:39]  So, Galen sounds like he was pretty on it in terms of healing skills when it comes to what, excuse me, healing skills.
[01:06:51]  He was quite good, he was the best, he was he was Caesar's personal physician.
[01:06:58]  It's not for nothing even better than Dr. Fauci and the Rockefeller medicine, not Fauci.
[01:07:07]  How could he be better than Fauci?
[01:07:09]  Fauci's like man, Fauci's come on a lot since you know, I hate Fauci, not because he's an asshole and I hate him, which I do, but I hate him because he's the pressure valve for all the Trump psycho fans.
[01:07:22]  They just, anytime you talk about vaccine, they point to Fauci, like it's all him, like Trump had nothing the hell to do.
[01:07:28]  Like, he's calling himself the father of the vaccine, but he has nothing to do with the vaccine at the same time.
[01:07:33]  It's collusion, it's crazy.
[01:07:35]  It's it's it's brilliant, you've got incredible his his um deception.
[01:07:40]  Um, so okay, so that's very interesting.
[01:07:44]  So, in your thoughts, I'll say this.
[01:07:46]  Sorry, sorry to cut you off there, but I'll say this: if I if you were to take uh 10 contemporary sources outside of the Bible, that's why they say use the Bible to translate the Bible, it's because they created a whole language of Greek that doesn't exist outside of that in the Greek-speaking world.
[01:08:06]  They want to confine it to the Bible.
[01:08:08]  Don't look at what Euripides wrote about that, look at what the Bible said only.
[01:08:12]  Don't look at Euripides, don't look at Galen, don't look at nobody.
[01:08:15]  But when you look at everybody else, they use all the same words written in the Bible, but in a sexual magical context or a pharmacological medicine-like context.
[01:08:26]  But they're using the same words, the same terminologies.
[01:08:30]  Something's weird here.
[01:08:33]  I mean, if you're right, it's a really good psyop, it's the best psyop in history.
[01:08:38]  I know, and that's why it makes sense, that's why it's bad.
[01:08:42]  The Bible is the most biggest-selling book.
[01:08:45]  I know, I know, that's why that's why I believe it more because then it's like it adds to the value, right?
[01:08:51]  Like, it's so it's such a mind fuck and it plays into everything.
[01:08:55]  It makes everything else make sense from that point on, which is bad.
[01:08:58]  I don't like being in this position.
[01:08:59]  Um, who is behind it who, as in on the physical, I asked you before, but you we didn't really get a very good answer.
[01:09:13]  Um, who these great lines that Jesus has got, which seem to me to be distinctive.
[01:09:20]  That uh, um, the Beatitudes, for example, I mean, is there an equivalent of that in the ancient Greek writers?
[01:09:28]  An equivalent to what?
[01:09:30]  Well, the Beatitudes, you know, blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit, blessed are the peacemakers, whatever it is.
[01:09:40]  It sounds quite radical to me.
[01:09:41]  Who will enjoy the shelter of their rubble, right?
[01:09:43]  I think that's what it says.
[01:09:44]  Yeah, um, uh, I have to answer that.
[01:09:49]  Um, yeah, look, if you were to read all of the concepts within the Bible come from the older written mysteries, mythologies, uh, the what the playwrights wrote, it's all the same.
[01:10:08]  Oh, oh, you made me think of something interesting.
[01:10:10]  Oh, this is a good one.
[01:10:12]  This is a good one.
[01:10:13]  When they tell me that the Bible is written in Hebrew first, I'm like, okay.
[01:10:18]  All right.
[01:10:18]  Here's an interesting word.
[01:10:20]  Here's an interesting one.
[01:10:22]  We would all agree that the Bible is a book of euphemisms, right?
[01:10:29]  It's a book of parables.
[01:10:30]  That's what it is, right?
[01:10:32]  Okay.
[01:10:32]  There's no word for euphemism or parables in Hebrew.
[01:10:37]  So how did these guys write a book about something they didn't initially have a fucking word for?
[01:10:43]  Like, how do I write a how do I write a book about I don't know marine biology without having marine biology to begin with?
[01:10:56]  How does that even work?
[01:10:57]  No, I but I think we'll slightly preach into the choir here in as much as I don't think many of us believe that the Bible was written.
[01:11:05]  I mean, Jesus spoke Greek, didn't he?
[01:11:08]  I don't, I don't think the Bible was written in Hebrew.
[01:11:11]  That's just a kind of so if you assume already that the Bible was written in Greek, I don't think that's a kind of deal breaker.
[01:11:21]  Do you know what?
[01:11:22]  Do you know what the ancient sources written by Greeks say about Hebrew?
[01:11:30]  Do you know what the Greeks say about Hebrew?
[01:11:33]  That it was made up.
[01:11:35]  Not exactly.
[01:11:36]  Yes, but no.
[01:11:37]  It was a made-up, made up.
[01:11:41]  It was a okay, I'll say this.
[01:11:45]  It was a made-up language used by the Greek-speaking world, but specifically within a ritual cult context.
[01:11:56]  That's what we say.
[01:11:58]  The Greeks say that.
[01:12:00]  And there's sources for that.
[01:12:02]  Whether it's true or not, we could debate, but there is a source for that.
[01:12:05]  And they say that Hebrew was created within the context of the mystery rites, which makes sense again with what I'm trying to the image I'm trying to explain of it all.
[01:12:17]  How it's all, it's one, it's one type of magic that is split up against itself, divided, fighting itself, and catching us on either side, really.
[01:12:32]  One evil split into fighting itself.
[01:12:36]  Gosh, so Esther, I'm really, I'm really looking forward to the reaction to this.

=== Cigarettes And False Hope (02:23) ===

[01:12:44]  I'm sorry, man.
[01:12:46]  Look, you know, it's funny.
[01:12:47]  I didn't know.
[01:12:49]  I don't know.
[01:12:50]  I'm trying to be as, you know, as least, you know.
[01:12:58]  What you're trying to be, I tell you what, you've you've smoked an impressive number of cigarettes in this project.
[01:13:04]  I think you've broken the record for most cigarettes.
[01:13:10]  I'm just letting you pause here.
[01:13:12]  How many cigarettes do you smoke today?
[01:13:14]  Four.
[01:13:16]  Four.
[01:13:17]  So you've actually trebled your cigarette consumption today.
[01:13:21]  Oh, four packets.
[01:13:23]  No, four cigarettes, not four packets.
[01:13:25]  You're crazy.
[01:13:30]  I'm watching enviously because I have a cigarette.
[01:13:36]  I've given up my morning cigarette for Lent and I have an evening cigarette.
[01:13:42]  And I went to hospital today, as you know, which is why this podcast is delayed.
[01:13:46]  And I got some bad news.
[01:13:48]  And it's really, yeah, it's just, I mean, it's just annoying.
[01:13:53]  It just means surgery.
[01:13:55]  And I've just got to have pins inserted into my finger and the base.
[01:14:01]  Are you okay though?
[01:14:01]  Like, is it threatening life-threatening, or it's just bullshit more than anything?
[01:14:04]  No, it's just bullshit.
[01:14:07]  I mean, you know, I don't know what the worst case scenario is, but it, but it, right, I mean, it's not death.
[01:14:13]  Yeah, right.
[01:14:14]  You know, it's just discomfort and annoyance and regret.
[01:14:18]  And you are.
[01:14:20]  And so I'm really looking forward to my cigarette to try and sort of cancel out some of that.
[01:14:28]  And there was I think this was going to be a fun pod where we were going to talk about, I don't know, all manner of crazy shit.
[01:14:34]  I told you, I listen, it's on you.
[01:14:36]  That's your fault.
[01:14:36]  I told you, getting the talking points, because if you let me talk, we're going to go into some really, really good.
[01:14:42]  You did warn me.
[01:14:44]  I had no idea at all that this was, that you were going to kind of dump from a very great height on my cherished beliefs and that you're going to ruin the lives of all these all these God-fearing folk who watch this podcast.
[01:15:02]  And they're going to be thinking, why have you got this?
[01:15:03]  This terrible.
[01:15:05]  I'm the devil.
[01:15:06]  Eskinor is the devil.

=== Empowerment Comes From Within (05:15) ===

[01:15:08]  Well, I think we need to be.
[01:15:12]  I mean, this is what Milton argues in Arian Itika.
[01:15:17]  Although you may argue that Milton was of the devil's party too, but this is the problem.
[01:15:21]  When you look at British analogies throughout the centuries, you're never quite sure.
[01:15:27]  But he argued that we need to expose ideas, good and bad, and decide we can't shy away from them, which I think is right.
[01:15:38]  I'm really hoping, I'm really hoping that people are going to be people better informed than I am, are going to be able to take what you say and look at it and come up with valid responses because I don't want to live in a world where Jesus was a pig.
[01:15:59]  I don't want to say that.
[01:16:00]  Look, I understand what you mean, but I look at things differently.
[01:16:06]  I think it's empowering once you are able to traverse the darkness, right?
[01:16:13]  That's the problem.
[01:16:14]  So, this is what they do, right?
[01:16:15]  And I don't know if you know anything about like QAnon and all that, but I'll explain it from a QAnon sense, right?
[01:16:20]  What they do is they, what Blavatsky wanted to do, right?
[01:16:25]  They're externalizing the hierarchy.
[01:16:27]  They're telling us, they're showing us everything that's wrong with the world to make us, you know, you feel helpless, you feel powerless.
[01:16:35]  I'm scared.
[01:16:35]  I'm in a dark box.
[01:16:37]  How the hell am I just some fucking loser by himself going to do anything for anybody with all of this darkness that's controlling everything?
[01:16:46]  It's very, you feel alone.
[01:16:49]  And then once you feel, once you're trapped in that aloneness, what they do is they offer you the saviors in hoping that you'll take that hand to pull you out of the dark.
[01:16:59]  But what I tell people is this: don't take anybody's hand.
[01:17:03]  Simmer in the darkness as long as you need.
[01:17:06]  It will not be easy.
[01:17:08]  It'll be very fucking hard.
[01:17:10]  You'll break your heart.
[01:17:11]  You'll cry.
[01:17:13]  It'll be really rough.
[01:17:15]  Don't take anybody's hand.
[01:17:17]  Eventually, when you simmer long enough, you're going to find some type of empowerment that's within you.
[01:17:26]  Because now we're looking for all these external saviors.
[01:17:28]  Jesus is going to come back.
[01:17:30]  The aliens are going to come back.
[01:17:32]  The Trump, this, the white, all these, all these things outside of you that you have no control over are supposed to come help you.
[01:17:40]  Means that you have your happiness is not in your hands.
[01:17:43]  Your power is not in your hand.
[01:17:44]  You've already offshored it to other things, entities, ideas.
[01:17:49]  That has to come internally first.
[01:17:51]  You need to stand with your own two feet, grab your balls, and be honest with yourself first.
[01:17:57]  And from there, you'll be able to build an actual strength that is that is yours to hold and that nobody else can take away from you.
[01:18:07]  And once you're there, you'll start seeing the world in a much better place and you'll disconnect from the bullshit more often.
[01:18:12]  I don't care about none of this.
[01:18:13]  I'm going to go out after I'm going to have sunshine, margarita.
[01:18:16]  I'm going to enjoy my life.
[01:18:18]  I'm not going to watch the news.
[01:18:19]  I'm not going to watch all the fear porn.
[01:18:20]  I'm not going to let that shit get with me.
[01:18:22]  I'm not going to be crying in the corner because life is to live.
[01:18:26]  If they let them take that away from you, you have no chance.
[01:18:29]  So, I always want to let people know that.
[01:18:32]  I know it's hard and it's all bad.
[01:18:34]  I totally get it.
[01:18:35]  But I'm telling you, if you simmer in the darkness by yourself, you will get out of there by yourself.
[01:18:42]  It takes time and it's hard, but it's the only true path out of it.
[01:18:47]  Right.
[01:18:48]  How long have you been out of this particular hole?
[01:18:53]  How long were you in the hole?
[01:18:56]  Look, I've been awake from look, I've been awake a long time.
[01:19:00]  I've been awake, awake.
[01:19:02]  I thought I was awake.
[01:19:03]  Then, you know, you think you're awake.
[01:19:05]  It's always, you know, it's always incremental.
[01:19:06]  But from 14 years old, which was quite a long time ago, I got my head broken open where I was from in Quebec.
[01:19:13]  We had an ice storm and we had no electricity for several days, maybe a week or two.
[01:19:18]  So all the families kind of bundled together, whoever had a fireplace, and we waited it out, right?
[01:19:25]  We were at my neighbor's house, and she invited this Greek man there who spoke seven languages, including ancient cuneiform.
[01:19:33]  And I spent like a week with this guy with nothing to no lights, no nothing, just books and learning.
[01:19:38]  And this guy busted my head open, busted my head open right at 14.
[01:19:43]  So that was the beginning, right?
[01:19:46]  And I went through a very depressing, obviously, a very depressed stage, right?
[01:19:50]  Then you kind of break out of it, but then you wake up again and then you fall for something else and it happens again.
[01:19:56]  This has happened several times.
[01:19:58]  Like it's happened probably to you and to most people.
[01:20:00]  But right now, I think I'm at that.
[01:20:02]  Like, I don't know if there's any more heart to break at this point.
[01:20:04]  Like, I don't know what could be possible.
[01:20:06]  I'd say if you've gone from kind of black pill to white-pilled and then back to black pills.
[01:20:14]  And but yeah, because then it wasn't because then it wasn't a white pill to begin with.
[01:20:18]  It was a crutch.
[01:20:19]  It was a deception that they allowed you to crutch, right?

=== Lies Fall Under Their Own Weight (02:07) ===

[01:20:23]  Yes.
[01:20:24]  It's a false hope.
[01:20:26]  So it's not actually, that's why it's empowering because people think it's scary because, oh, then there's no hope.
[01:20:33]  No.
[01:20:34]  What I'm telling you, I'm not telling you there's no hope.
[01:20:36]  I'm telling you what you are hoping in is bullshit.
[01:20:40]  That doesn't mean there isn't hope.
[01:20:41]  It means what you think is hope is bullshit.
[01:20:45]  The Old Testament was that written by the same people for the same deceptive effect.
[01:20:53]  I'm convinced of that.
[01:20:55]  Do you think it was contemporaneous to what?
[01:21:00]  New Testament.
[01:21:02]  I think that Christianity and Judaism are symbiotic twins in a sense.
[01:21:10]  I think they're both needed to hold up each other.
[01:21:15]  Right.
[01:21:16]  I think they're both.
[01:21:17]  It's going to be very, very clever, the people who drummed up this deception scheme.
[01:21:23]  I mean, it's the biggest psychopath in history, if huge, if true.
[01:21:28]  Right.
[01:21:29]  I know.
[01:21:30]  It's so perverted, so disgusting.
[01:21:34]  And, you know, that's what they always do, man.
[01:21:37]  And it falls into how I break psyops.
[01:21:39]  That's why I believe I'm right because they use goodness, nice things to shield the most disgusting shit beneath you'd ever think about.
[01:21:50]  Just like they use MT ultra subjects who were satanically ritual ritually abused, and then they use them as whistleblowers to expose things.
[01:22:01]  And you can't, but I know that the whistleblower is lying, and I could prove it.
[01:22:05]  But it's a hard mountain to climb to tell people, hey, this victim who's been raped is lying to you.
[01:22:11]  You look like an asshole.
[01:22:12]  So they kind of shield the deception with through children, through victims, and through good-sounding, unifying, loving ideas.
[01:22:24]  These are the shields used for deception.
[01:22:27]  Because a lie will fall under its own weight eventually.

=== Struggle Needed To Bloom (03:52) ===

[01:22:31]  But something that holds up dignity, truth, children, justice is not something that you want to break naturally.
[01:22:39]  You want to follow it.
[01:22:41]  And then on the other side, you have all this fear porn, which makes this side more enticing.
[01:22:47]  So you need both of them at the same time.
[01:22:49]  I don't know if that makes sense, but I see it in my head, at least.
[01:22:53]  Yeah.
[01:22:54]  I mean, I know.
[01:22:58]  I mean, obviously, this is quite a lot for me.
[01:23:00]  Quite a lot for me to take in the space.
[01:23:04]  That's what she said.
[01:23:07]  Given that it was only an hour ago that I first got introduced.
[01:23:11]  And I suppose there's going to be a percentage of my audience which is going, yeah, yeah.
[01:23:17]  Finally, finally, Dellingpole has the truth on his part.
[01:23:21]  Because I mean, because I have heard, I've had Christianity, the Jewish politicians, whatever.
[01:23:28]  I don't know how this accords with so God is a kind of, in your skim art of is a kind of absentee parent or he's a laissez-faire parent.
[01:23:51]  And he, you know, he loves us, but he wants the kids to fight it out.
[01:23:56]  Maybe kids to fall down to hurt yourself.
[01:23:58]  Right.
[01:23:59]  That's part of the.
[01:24:00]  Because look, on the other hand, if you shelter a kid, and we all know this, if you shelter and baby a kid and bring them up in a protective bubble, they're going to grow up to be broken people, weak.
[01:24:13]  You know, nothing good comes from people that are pampered their whole life, right?
[01:24:17]  It's just the way it is.
[01:24:19]  It's something about us, right?
[01:24:20]  You need that struggle.
[01:24:21]  Just like, you know, I'll tell you an interesting story.
[01:24:23]  So there's the biggest butterfly in the world.
[01:24:26]  I forgot what it was called.
[01:24:27]  It was native to, I think, Brazil.
[01:24:29]  Look at this story, right?
[01:24:30]  It was an endangered species.
[01:24:32]  And they realized that it's cocoon that it creates.
[01:24:36]  It's some of the hardest natural substance created on earth.
[01:24:40]  And the problem with that is that when it wants to break free from the cocoon, some of them can't make it.
[01:24:46]  They're stressing.
[01:24:46]  They never break free.
[01:24:47]  So they die suffocating halfway out of the cocoon.
[01:24:51]  So what the sorry, what the con people that are trying to conserve them did, they said, look, we're going to help them.
[01:24:59]  Whenever they're about to bloom, whatever the term is, I forget, we're going to go with a knife and we're going to slit the cocoon a little bit to give them a little push forward.
[01:25:10]  But what they realized is when they did that, they all died.
[01:25:14]  Because when the butterfly came out, it needed that struggle for its wings to get pumped full of blood so it could fly away.
[01:25:20]  Without that struggle, it won't bloom into a butterfly.
[01:25:25]  So that struggle is needed to bloom from the cocoon state to whatever you're supposed to be within this physical reality, at least, right?
[01:25:33]  That's how I see it.
[01:25:35]  Wow.
[01:25:38]  I like the story of that butterfly.
[01:25:41]  That's interesting.
[01:25:42]  Oh no.
[01:25:43]  And yeah, so it's so hard to.
[01:25:51]  I mean, I'd love to be able to bring up somebody now and say, look, I just had this government podcast.
[01:26:03]  Reassure me, will you?
[01:26:05]  But all I can think of is, you know, to pray.
[01:26:10]  But then, of course, in your version of events, praying is like.
[01:26:15]  No.
[01:26:17]  I'm for praying.
[01:26:18]  Look, I'm for praying, but you know, to who or what are you praying to?

=== Tribulation Threatens The Plan (08:53) ===

[01:26:23]  Who are you?
[01:26:23]  You know, who or what are you actually trying to channel matters, right?
[01:26:28]  And, you know, that's crucial for people to understand.
[01:26:33]  Like, if, you know, I'll give you an example.
[01:26:36]  If, look, the worst, the worst case scenario, right?
[01:26:39]  Why do I need a go-between God?
[01:26:44]  Why do I need to pray to something?
[01:26:46]  Why does it, why?
[01:26:48]  Why do I need a bouncer to let me in to get God's ear?
[01:26:52]  This whole idea, whether it's the church, whether it's Jesus, whether whatever it is from any religion, it's an obstacle put there to cut you off from source.
[01:27:01]  Just like at the same time, the whole transhuman agenda is to genetically sever us from the tie to creator.
[01:27:11]  So they're doing this to remove us further and further away from our creator.
[01:27:17]  That's what's happening religiously, spiritually, technologically speaking, through all facets of everything.
[01:27:24]  Right.
[01:27:26]  Why do you think that of all the religions, the one that the rulers of the darkness of this world seem most troubled by is Christianity?
[01:27:43]  Why are they always trying to mess it up?
[01:27:44]  Because the false version that they've evangelized the world with stands for the opposite ideals that they do.
[01:27:57]  It stands for justice, for equality, for love, for unity, for turning the cheek, for being the better person, for doing the right thing.
[01:28:05]  Whereas the other one, the other side, stands for supremacy, for control, parasitic natures.
[01:28:11]  It's all of these.
[01:28:12]  One is theoretically virtuous, virtuous.
[01:28:16]  The other one is vicious.
[01:28:19]  So by throwing all the terror at you, it'll instinctively make you go towards the love.
[01:28:27]  But the love is a false love that was built off of lies.
[01:28:31]  And it's made to control the revolution against our oppressors in a controlled manner, where we're going to rebuild the system that they wanted to begin with.
[01:28:42]  That's the part that bothers me the most.
[01:28:45]  They need this symbiotic relationship.
[01:28:47]  What do they like?
[01:28:48]  The system that they're trying to replace everything with in my mind, this is how I see it happening.
[01:28:58]  I see that, you know, at some point, we're going to rise against everything that is disgusting today, right?
[01:29:06]  You know, the Epsilon, the clients, government, military, industrial complex, the organized religions.
[01:29:13]  We're going to rise up and we're going to want to destroy all this.
[01:29:18]  And the mark, I think, will be something to unify humanity as a label of how I would say this, as a label of rebellion against our oppressors.
[01:29:33]  And who's the God of rebellion, right?
[01:29:35]  That's always something to consider.
[01:29:37]  So I think that the mark will be: hey, I'm part of the resistance against, you know, Israel, the banksters, all these things.
[01:29:46]  And I'm a truther, Eskran.
[01:29:48]  I'm a truther like nobody fucking else.
[01:29:50]  Kick ass.
[01:29:50]  I, I expose everybody.
[01:29:52]  That's what I do.
[01:29:53]  But for me to prove that i'm on the side of the righteous, i'm gonna have to take some kind of, some kind of mark to prove that i'm on the side that's against our oppressors.
[01:30:06]  That that's, that's how they're.
[01:30:07]  They're they're doing a three card monty here, and in order for me to prove that i'm against them, i'm gonna have to take something that's gonna symbolize unity with the, with you, with my, my fellow humans.
[01:30:17]  But that's what they want us to do.
[01:30:20]  But the bit after that, in revelation, where Christ returns, you think, is just, it's just part that that, that bit isn't true.
[01:30:28]  That's just, that's just part of the trial.
[01:30:29]  No, you know what I think?
[01:30:30]  Listen to this right, like this, like i'm I.
[01:30:33]  I look, I don't know, obviously.
[01:30:34]  I don't know obviously, but I think the deception will be kind of twofold right, I think that there will be they're going to try to merge Jesus and Um and um a broader new age idea of extraterrestrials.
[01:30:51]  I think they're going to try to merge them together, and how I think they're going to do that I don't know.
[01:30:56]  But what I think is going to happen is, at some point uh, they're going to we're going to have.
[01:31:03]  We're going to, you know, when we're at the pinnacle, when we're about to fucking lay waste on all these parasites, we're going to have a threat that's going to require humanity to unify under one government, one label.
[01:31:15]  That's going to have to be an exterior threat.
[01:31:17]  Yeah, that's pretty much right, but this is what I think is going to happen.
[01:31:22]  I think that first we're going to get an invasion of, like the gray reptilian insectoid, you know evil looking type invasion, and I think that once we're losing to that, I think that the big beautiful, blonde Jesus, like Pleiadians, are going to come in to save us from this orchestrated attack on the world,
[01:31:49]  and they're going to come in as our saviors and that's going to be the Jesus Train right, and I think that and and if you want to take it a step further, what I think they'll do after that is, if not, if they're not going to bring in that second unit as Jesus yeah, they're going to use that second savior unit and then bring in a false Jesus to play it against it.
[01:32:10]  They're going to keep us constantly unified under an exterior threat that's going to save us.
[01:32:19]  That's the, that.
[01:32:20]  That's where I think the the, the deception is going to come right.
[01:32:23]  But the bit, the good bit, that that Christians believe um after that, after all the kind of the tribulation and stuff, that doesn't happen.
[01:32:34]  That's because that was always invented, that was just made up by John On Pat Moss and it was just like wasn't, wasn't real.
[01:32:40]  Well, you know, it's funny tribulation, right?
[01:32:45]  Um, it's always funny to me right because like, i'll talk with Q and On again because it, because i'll try to explain to you the psychology right, so Q and On is supposed to be of God the Biblical, helping us, saving us, all this bullshit.
[01:33:00]  I'm like okay fine, most people that fall, that are deceived by Q and On are, like you know uh uh gun-holding, family oriented, salt of the earth, good people that would protect their families against tyranny.
[01:33:14]  These are the people it wants to neuter right, because they are a threat to the system.
[01:33:18]  Now, what Q has done is that they've taken these people, the salt of the earth, and they're turning them into the masons of the, Of The Beast system.
[01:33:30]  They, they're the builders, the rebel, right?
[01:33:33]  These are the people that that, that that are under that guise now, Q and On.
[01:33:39]  Okay, so you're you're, you're a Christian, you believe in Q On one hand, Q is telling you, don't worry about it.
[01:33:49]  Shit's not going to trust the plan.
[01:33:51]  Trust the plan because tribulation is not going to happen because we're going to stop these assholes right on time.
[01:33:56]  Don't worry about it.
[01:33:58]  But if you're a Christian, you want tribulation to happen, first of all.
[01:34:02]  So, why are you, as a Christian, putting your faith in an idea that's there to spare you from what you think you should bear being a Christian?
[01:34:17]  It splits their soul in half and they don't even realize they're being lied to.
[01:34:21]  Because as a Christian, this shouldn't make sense to you either which way.
[01:34:25]  So, this is what's happening with all of these psyops.
[01:34:29]  And they're all tailored to the same type of people.
[01:34:32]  It's always the people, you know, psyops are not tailored to liberal left consent temple losers that'll just for security that they'll vote for anything.
[01:34:41]  They'll do anything.
[01:34:43]  Psyops are not meant to cater to that to the dumbest sheep on the planet.
[01:34:47]  They're made to cater to the wolves and to the lions because that's who you need to deceive to get the beast system going.
[01:34:54]  So, everything we're seeing, you know, people like the people that are awake, they look at the news and like, ah, these stupid normies falling for it.
[01:35:02]  Idiot, what you're watching is not made to brainwash the normies, it's made to condition and program your mind thinking that's what's going on.
[01:35:10]  So, it's always a giant, you know, it's complicated, man, as usual, right?

=== Psyops Target The Wolves (07:59) ===

[01:35:17]  Well, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna leave it there because this is this is just too much to process.
[01:35:22]  Um, thank you for making undoubtedly the most depressing, and I don't pretty much.
[01:35:28]  I love to hear that.
[01:35:29]  You've been doing this shit for a long time you've interviewed a lot of fucking people, man.
[01:35:33]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:35:34]  So, Eskinor, you've taken the biscuit.
[01:35:36]  You've got you are the blue ribband of depressing podcasts.
[01:35:42]  You know, I want to say one, I want to tell you something about that because I'm like the king black pillar and all these losers that think in the plan, they always call me oh, doom and gloom.
[01:35:51]  But you know what the truth is?
[01:35:52]  I enjoy my life, I'm happy, I'm joking, I'm always lively, I'm always in a good fucking mood, and they're the ones in the basement that are angry and sad and crying.
[01:36:00]  So, maybe there's something to what I'm saying.
[01:36:03]  Maybe, I don't know.
[01:36:07]  Um, I'm definitely going to enjoy my cigarette after this.
[01:36:10]  Do you know what?
[01:36:11]  I think I could have handled this better if I hadn't had a depressing experience in hospital.
[01:36:16]  If I hadn't gone in there thinking they're going to say, Oh, yes, it's healing very nicely.
[01:36:22]  Well done.
[01:36:23]  You can just go home now and take your cast off in a week.
[01:36:27]  Instead, they say, No, we've got to put a bloody great pin in it.
[01:36:31]  Um, and it's going to be, you know, you should have told them you're about to talk to Sir Eskinor, so make it make it nice.
[01:36:39]  So, so, um, listen, viewers and listeners, I'm sorry for bringing this terrible man on to completely ruin your day.
[01:36:47]  And I hope you, I'm I really hope that you can come up with some good reposts.
[01:36:51]  And um, uh, so Eskinor, enjoy your do you have those um those creatures that run about in the way you live?
[01:37:01]  What are they called?
[01:37:02]  Um, um, like otters, but they're not otters, coaching.
[01:37:07]  Uh, no why not?
[01:37:11]  I'm not sure.
[01:37:13]  I don't think I have those.
[01:37:16]  We have a lot of all kinds of all kinds of little critters around here, but not that.
[01:37:21]  Hang on, Cote Mundi, let's have a look.
[01:37:29]  Where do they live?
[01:37:32]  Well, they live in Central America.
[01:37:33]  Yeah, Mexico.
[01:37:34]  Why do you not go any Coachimundis?
[01:37:37]  I'm in the Caribbean of Mexico.
[01:37:40]  Yeah, is it?
[01:37:42]  I'm not even going to ask you how is it, is it in a really idyllic part as well?
[01:37:46]  No, I'm in Playa del Carmen.
[01:37:49]  I'm in like paradise here, next to Cancun, next to Tulum.
[01:37:56]  And has it, has that bit been spoiled or not?
[01:38:00]  No.
[01:38:01]  In fact, during COVID, everybody from around the world that was sick with what was going on for whatever the fuck reasons they had domestically all fucked off and all came to places like where I am.
[01:38:13]  So there's all like-minded people all around me.
[01:38:15]  We're kind of a parallel community.
[01:38:17]  How fantastic.
[01:38:19]  I'm very, very envious of you.
[01:38:25]  So, Sir Eskinor, if people still are so inclined, having listened to you.
[01:38:29]  People are still listening.
[01:38:31]  Where can they find you?
[01:38:33]  Oh, X is the funnest because that's where I expose people pretty much daily.
[01:38:39]  It's Eskanor Reloaded is my handle.
[01:38:42]  And on all other platforms, Substack, YouTube, all that is Sir Eskanor.
[01:38:47]  So, no, Sir Eskanor.
[01:38:49]  If you write Sir Eskanor anywhere, you'll find me.
[01:38:51]  I'm always everywhere.
[01:38:53]  You could be on, like, I'm not on Facebook, but if you write Sir Eskanor, people post about me everywhere.
[01:38:57]  So you'll find it.
[01:38:58]  Okay.
[01:39:00]  How did you know that I'm a goodie?
[01:39:01]  How did you trust come on the spot?
[01:39:04]  Are you used to talking?
[01:39:05]  I'll tell you what I did.
[01:39:06]  I shoot straight, right?
[01:39:07]  This was my initial reaction when you reached out to me.
[01:39:10]  I'm like, this guy's a little bit mainstream.
[01:39:12]  Like, I don't know how that's going to fucking work out, even though you're not.
[01:39:15]  But from my recesses of the fucking darkness, you know, in comparison, you're more of a household name.
[01:39:24]  So I'm like, what the fuck?
[01:39:25]  Am I going to go on there and just say my usual shit and just break everybody's head and heart?
[01:39:30]  That's what I was thinking.
[01:39:32]  And then I did a little bit of research on you.
[01:39:33]  And I'm like, okay, that's enough.
[01:39:35]  He's cool.
[01:39:36]  We could do this.
[01:39:37]  I'm good intuitively with this.
[01:39:39]  I would have called you out immediately.
[01:39:41]  Don't worry about it.
[01:39:42]  You're good.
[01:39:44]  I see.
[01:39:44]  Okay.
[01:39:45]  Well, yeah, again, thank you for dropping so many.
[01:39:51]  I'm not going to call them truth bombs because that would privilege, to use a horrible hefty word, your truth nukes, even though nukes are fake.
[01:40:00]  But yeah.
[01:40:01]  Thank you.
[01:40:03]  And if you haven't all gone and chopped yourselves by this stage, please continue supporting my podcast and liking it and buying me coffees and supporting my sponsors and trying to support me on financially on Substack.
[01:40:22]  Oh, get to my website, which is jamestunnypole.co.uk.
[01:40:27]  Thank you again, Sir Eskinor.
[01:40:28]  It's a pleasure to meet you.
[01:40:29]  And I hope that I hope I can come out to Cancun sometime.
[01:40:32]  It's probably quite nice.
[01:40:34]  You're more than welcome, man.
[01:40:34]  You'll have a good time.
[01:40:37]  Excuse me?
[01:40:38]  Are the mosquitoes?
[01:40:39]  Well, it's fine where I am.
[01:40:40]  In Tulum, it's bad, but where I am, it's totally fine.
[01:40:43]  Where I'm from in Quebec is much worse with the mosquitoes, believe it or not.
[01:40:47]  Why is it bad in Tulum?
[01:40:49]  Because there's more ponds and water, and the level rises and falls.
[01:40:57]  So it creates ponds and they lay more eggs, right?
[01:40:59]  Whereas here I am, there's none of that.
[01:41:01]  There's no fluctuations in the water.
[01:41:03]  So there's no pools of water for them to lay their eggs.
[01:41:05]  It's pretty that simple.
[01:41:07]  You've put me off going to Tulum.
[01:41:08]  Because isn't Tulum where isn't that where the prettiest bit is?
[01:41:13]  No, it's pretty.
[01:41:14]  No, there's pretty, it's beautiful everywhere.
[01:41:16]  Tulum is good.
[01:41:18]  There's a mosquito season, right?
[01:41:19]  But if you go outside of the season, it's fine.
[01:41:22]  Tulum is a little bit, you know, it's a little bit fake for me, right?
[01:41:25]  Everybody's like a yogi, spiritual fake something, but they all do drugs and party all day, so it's very fake for me.
[01:41:32]  Cancun is a little bit too much of a city.
[01:41:34]  Playao del Carmen, people come here to live rather than to vacation.
[01:41:38]  So everybody's kind of better settled, I would say.
[01:41:41]  Right.
[01:41:42]  If I were going to, what's the most sort of picturesque place to hang out for a week?
[01:41:47]  Oh, where I went last week, Hullbox or hold on.
[01:41:56]  Baccalar.
[01:41:57]  Look at Baccalar or Hullbox.
[01:41:59]  No, you don't understand.
[01:42:01]  Somewhere.
[01:42:02]  I want somewhere with a kind of boutique hotel, but yes, I can afford with clean sea and stuff.
[01:42:08]  Oh, look, I'll send you a text.
[01:42:10]  There's Islamu Hiram.
[01:42:12]  Send me some tips.
[01:42:13]  Yeah.
[01:42:14]  Yeah, just a tip.
[01:42:15]  Don't worry.
[01:42:16]  Because now they've closed out.
[01:42:17]  I mean, it's extraordinary what's happened with Trump's.
[01:42:22]  I mean, probably the Iranian demonet as well, but they've managed effectively to close off the route to the east.
[01:42:29]  You know, you think about Dubai was the transport hub for not just the Far East and Southeast Asia, but also Australia as well.
[01:42:38]  Right.
[01:42:38]  So where are the planes going to go now?
[01:42:40]  It's like this is all a restructuring of trade routes around the world.
[01:42:47]  That's what I'll land on this.
[01:42:48]  That's what Trump did.
[01:42:49]  Trump is a chaos magician.
[01:42:51]  That's what he did with his tariffs.
[01:42:53]  He forced all of the medium governments and countries like Canada and Mexico to create alternative trade routes with each other to avoid the U.S. He's basically a chaos magician ushering in the new template for global trade.
[01:43:09]  And he's doing that through tariffs and through bombs.
[01:43:14]  Yeah.

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[01:43:16]  I'll buy that.
[01:43:17]  Yeah.
[01:43:18]  Yeah.
[01:43:20]  Well, maybe if we do another podcast, you can talk to me about nice things or at least things that I'll to do with Jesus not being laughing, but it's bad, man.
[01:43:33]  I know.
[01:43:33]  Look, I'm laughing, but I'm not happy about it either, man.
[01:43:36]  I'm not fucking happy about it either.
[01:43:38]  What do you want me to talk about?
[01:43:38]  Yeah, but you didn't need to tell everybody, did you?
[01:43:40]  You could have just kept it to yourself.
[01:43:41]  We'd all do that either.
[01:43:45]  I'd be fake if I kept it to myself, honestly.
[01:43:49]  Well, thank you very much.
[01:43:51]  I'm going to have my cigarette now.
[01:43:54]  And thank you.
[01:43:57]  You're very welcome.
[01:43:58]  I hope to do this soon and have yourself a wonderful day.
[01:44:00]  Okay.