Gathering of the Clan: Christmas Special Preview with James & Dick
James and Dick give a taste of the kind of enthralling drivel they’re going to be talking at their action packed Christmas Special on December 6th. Dick has some not that surprising news. James is still quite impressed. Also features: bad impersonation of Simon Callow as Charles Dickens interrupting Queen Victoria and Prince Albert having sex against a Christmas tree. James forgets the word Tannenbaum but it’s OK because he has concussion, again.↓ ↓ ↓Tickets are now available for the James x Dick Christmas Show 2025on Saturday, 6th December. See website for details:https://www.jamesdelingpole.co.uk/Shop/
Welcome to the Delling Pod with me, James Dellingpole.
And as you can tell by my Christmas, not Christmas really jumper, I'm going to talk to you about the excitement, the thrill of my forthcoming Dick and James Christmas special.
It's round about two weeks, a bit over two weeks to go before the party starts.
And I don't want you to be one of those people who misses out on what is undoubtedly one of the highlights of the year.
So many lovely people that you're going to adore if you don't know them already are going to be there in the adoring crowds watching me and Dick on stage and also watching the unregistered chickens of course beforehand.
And there's going to be some names and faces that you know.
Clive de Karl is going to be there with his magical chair and they're going to be people selling stuff that you want to buy on stools, you know, sort of magical potions, unguants and things like that.
And it's going to be fun.
I mean, obviously, I'm going to be good, Dick's going to be good, but you really come to these things to meet like-minded folks.
So get your tickets now.
I'm afraid to say that the evil Illuminati scumbag tickets, the VIP tickets as they were called before I changed the name, they've sold out.
But it doesn't matter.
I love you ordinary humble folk who just buy the ordinary humble tickets just as much.
In fact, maybe I'll like you more because you're horny handed sons of toil.
Anyway, please come and be there.
I think it'll be such fun.
I love seeing you.
It's on, I didn't mention the date, did I?
December the 6th.
Saturday, December the 6th.
And I haven't mentioned the other exciting thing.
You'll probably want to stay overnight and it's lovely countryside roundabout.
And the next day, I've commandeered the church service.
I'm going to decide what the hymns are going to be.
It's a really, really lovely church.
And if you fancy coming with me to the, it's the 9.15 communion service.
But I'm going to choose the hymns so there won't be any rubbish.
So it's Advent.
So we're going to get stuff like, I'm going to make sure we're going to get Ocum Emmanuel and Hills of the North Rejoice.
And maybe some other ones that we know and like.
You've got to be there, haven't you?
Got to be there.
December the 6th, Dick and James's Christmas special.
See you there.
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Welcome back to the Delling POD.
Not special guest, Dick grumpy and not special as well.
Grumpy and angry tech angry tech, angry like.
I sent you a series of emails to your gmail address with the link to the, to the platform the podcast platform and none of them.
Didn't your emails appear in my gmail?
No, no.
And did I send myself a message from my BT internet account?
It works.
Um, do you know why I think it happened?
Hang on, am I still there?
Yeah oh i'm, i'm.
I just minimized the window.
God, i'm being technically crap at the moment.
Um, do you know why I think it happened?
Why do you think it happened?
I'll give you three words, Vade, retro Satana.
I was on the way back.
You know i've been.
You'll never guess where i've been today.
Um, horse riding.
No begin no no, that thereby hangs a tail begins with w.
Um, am I, am I warm Worcester?
Yeah, you've been to my town.
Yeah, how recently when you sent the message saying what time should we start our podcast?
Three, I was in Waitrose Worcester.
We haven't got a Waitrose in.
Oh, we have at the top of London Road, exactly.
Yeah, now I, What I would have done is come to your place, and the only reason I didn't was I had to get back to do the shopping and see the man is chopping down the blackthorn in our garden and to prepare the way for the women folk to come back and have supper and stuff.
Right.
So otherwise I would have been there.
I was frustrated.
I was in a cafe.
And Francine is enjoying a black coffee and a cinnamon bun.
Black?
Black?
Black coffee, yeah.
If it's a really good coffee, I will drink it black these days.
Yeah.
That's quite radical.
It's a shift, and it might help with something I'm going to be touching on later in this discussion.
Oh, right.
Okay.
Because I've been to interesting places as well lately.
Where did I go?
Oh, my goodness.
What?
I know what you're going to say.
what is it is that are you on a is your fasting tell you you can't have milk That's the one.
You got it.
I'm not starting that yet, but I've dipped my toe in the water.
And I'm kind of being drawn inexorably towards becoming your ortho bro.
My actual ortho bro.
I'm going to be sure that you're not going to be a bad person, bro.
I'm going to be so, so envious.
Well, in a way, I'm doing it so you don't have to, because it's quite onerous.
I've been looking into what's required.
You know, you're fasting pretty much, I think, something like 180 days of the year or something like that.
Yeah, there's a lot of fasting going on.
And I think, so I had an Orthodox guy on my podcast.
We did the first two bits of Psalm 119.
Right.
And I looked at his website and I saw there was a thing saying, this week's fasting, no oil.
The oil, you've already hit on the big issue.
It's sort of like, yeah, okay, I can go without meat for a day or two in the week and fish and dairy, possibly, although that would be a bit of a bind.
And then you think, well, I'll do myself some roasted vegetables.
But then it's like, well, you can't even have oil.
Do you know why you can't have oil?
No.
Because it was to do with not having anything to do with stuff that might have touched blood.
And in biblical times, they used to keep oil in animal skins.
That's a bit unfair.
So you're being punished for the storage inadequacies.
But here's the thing.
They say that had they had some sort of update, you know, like Ortho 2.0, they'd have looked at that and said, well, you're okay now.
Now we're keeping oil in amphoras or something like that.
We can bring oil back.
But there, you're already into the territory of why is Orthodox the one to go for?
Because it hasn't changed.
You can't go changing the bits that are now outdated because you'll end up with the Church of England.
you'll say well look there weren't as many gay and trans people back then but let's let them in because you know it's an update and before you know you've compromised your way into becoming the church of england which is so well we we certainly we cut out the foreplay there didn't we We went straight to the church.
Yeah, well, you kind of anticipated me doing that.
Yes, didn't I?
Okay, so rewind to little things like you're coming back from Moscow with, you know, full of ortho zeal.
And obviously you had a great time visiting the churches there and you saw how all the services operate and all about the icons and the chanting and the various aspects of it that you found so very appealing.
And it came across in the podcast you did with the Orthodox chaps.
And that's another little pull on me to sort of say, well, you know, you found every other church lacking.
What is wrong with this one?
And I can't now turn around and say, well, the only thing holding me back is it does look like quite a lot of hard work.
And that's not enough, is it?
That's not enough to say, well, no, no, you have a rest, Dick.
You don't need to stand up for an hour at a time every Sunday while there's some chanting going on in front of you.
You don't need that.
You need a nice religion where you can sit down and look at the pretty stained glass.
So I've had to have this internal dialogue.
And it's hard to fight it.
And I mentioned this when I went to the service.
So rewind again.
I'm jumping ahead.
We both discussed the fact that there is a little local Orthodox church near me, Bransford.
That place I took you while swimming on the team.
Very close to the school.
Oh, yeah, The swimming hole, yeah.
Yeah.
So it's way down this little country lane, a tiny little 12th century church.
Yeah.
Right.
Very cute.
Lovely, small, perfectly formed.
And it is the local, well, Greek Orthodox church.
How did they get that?
How did they get a 12th century church?
I've yet to find out.
It was probably barely used and they got together and got it.
Either that or they borrow it.
But I don't know.
I think it's pretty much theirs.
It's called St. Anne and All Saints.
You can look it up on the internet.
It's got a really good website and a very good, committed group running the place.
And it's growing.
So I went along for a service.
And he joined me and basically turned up when it said the service was going to start.
And it was already in full flow.
Was it?
As it seems these things are.
It doesn't seem right that you can walk into an Orthodox church and it's not already up and running.
Yes.
Now, it's so small that they only get a priest once a month.
And he comes down from Shrewsbury, which is the next nearest place where there's a biggish Orthodox presence.
They run a service every other Sunday.
The next one I will miss because of your podcast live event.
And the one without the priest, they run themselves.
So it's all, as you know, it's all reading, chanting, liturgy, and a lot of crossing yourself and a lot of walking to the front and touching icons and lighting candles and all in English.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
The ladies did not have their head covered, which I thought they might.
Well, no, ah, stop it.
Ah, where's the f- Who is this person calling me?
Why wouldn't be a James podcast if you didn't get an interruption?
No, I'm gonna decline.
Don't call me person, whoever you are.
Limey.
Oh, I better turn my phone off.
That would be good, wouldn't it?
It's on silent.
Yeah, so there's three people up behind the pulpit type thing.
Two young chaps who are reading and chanting and a girl who turns out to be the choir mistress, who is a choral scholar.
She's brilliant.
And she is beautiful at the singing.
She really lovely sort of English folk voice.
Yeah.
And she is, as I say, she did a degree in, I think, music therapy or something like that.
And she's now getting the choir up and running.
Right.
And it's mesmerizing.
You standing for the whole service.
Yeah.
A whole hour.
And it's unlike any other service you've ever been to.
There doesn't seem to be any obvious structure to it.
There's no hymn-type sing-along thing.
It's not obvious where there's psalms.
You recognise there's readings from the scriptures.
But one of the scriptures, it was like talking about Matthew in Ethiopia.
And then you realise, hang on, this is one of the Orthodox gospels.
You know, one of the things that isn't in our Bible.
And Matthew went and converted the prince of Ethiopia or something like that and got tortured by him and locked up.
And it's heavily geared towards venerating the various saints.
So it's all geared around whichever saints' day it is that week.
And then at the end of it, there was a sermon, and then we all had coffee and talked.
And it was, yeah.
How many of you were there?
20 or so.
And there was this chap with his wife and child, two rows in front.
And at the end of it, he turns around and he goes, hello, Dick.
Wondering when you'd turn up.
He was a podcast listener of this podcast.
So hello, Ian.
Yeah.
So he had heard us mention this church before and he was just, he's fairly recent himself.
So I've got a friend in there already.
Chattatuman.
Yeah, is that?
Yeah, he's getting his confirmation, I think, on the night of your, on the day of your show.
So, yeah.
Well, that has taken away some material, the bombshell material that you might have dropped in our show.
Oh, I intend to repeat it.
I'm a little bit obsessed with it all right now.
I almost wish I wasn't, because it's going to be hard work.
It is.
It's fasting on Wednesdays and Fridays.
It's not just like Easter.
You're meant to be doing it twice a week.
You know how you get around that one.
There's a workaround.
Yeah, travel.
If you're travelling, you are exempt from fasting.
Yes, and if you turn up to someone's house and they put a plate of meat in front of you, you don't say anything because you can't be boasting about your fasting.
No.
Do you think, Dick, on fasting nights, I should invite you around?
I'd drive an hour and a half just to get a plate of meat.
I just had this.
I had this feeling Dick, that it being a Wednesday and all, you might want to come round and have some oil oil with some milk in it oily milk, actually.
Funnily enough, someone mentioned the um analogy of um.
Orthodox Christianity is the raw milk.
Christianity, they're saying, um c of e is like skimmed milk, and maybe Catholicism uh, full fat, but uh, orthodoxy is is uh raw unpasteurized, etc.
Full fat.
Um well, i'm very impressed.
I'm very impressed and you'll be able to keep your being impressed until I actually go through with it, because it it's going to be uh, for want of a trying to avoid a cliche, it's going to be a journey.
Well, you can have, you can have much to talk about to uh, Ortho Sis, is he um and um?
Uh yeah well, hopefully i'll get a lot of help on the way.
I mean, it's not something you should just take on lightly and um, obviously it's not a, it's.
It's meant to be a positive thing rather than a sort of oh god, i've got to give all this stuff up.
Yeah no I I, I think it's I I, I think it's, it's all good, I think I think.
Go, give you the um the strength you need to bear the difficult bits.
Yeah well, he doesn't send us anything.
That's beyond our capabilities.
Does he know?
He doesn't?
He doesn't.
Ah well um, I can't compete with with your interesting story.
I just wanted to say um, why I was in Worcester, you can guess, can't you?
Um, was it to see Michelle?
Yes, and why do you think I was particularly needing to see Michelle?
Because something to do with horses?
Yes you're, you want to go hunting soon?
No, I do yes, but but what's the what?
What do you think the problem might have been?
Um, your back is playing up.
No, I fell off Dick, you're being slow.
Today I, I fell off a horse and got concussion again.
Oh no yeah, and I tell you what.
Hang on, how hard is the ground going to be?
I tell you what.
I tell you why.
Well, I tell you the.
The horse was enormous.
It was um, it was Spartacus, who is definitely 18 hands, if not more.
Um, and it was a nightmare um, but what was really annoying about it was, it was it.
It was so entirely unnecessary.
I sort of had a cold.
I didn't really want to be out anyway, and there wasn't much action.
There was nothing, nothing doing.
We were just sort of pottering around um, and I got separated from the, from the rest of the field with with the thrusters, as it were, because unfortunately I was on a horse that wants to jump everything and and and it's very hard to rein in because he's so huge.
And at some point there came a rail or something, a very nasty tall rail that people didn't want to jump and wisely, And I sort of did it because my horse could do it.
And then I found myself with the kind of the really good riders who go at the front with the field master.
Did your stomach drop at that point?
No, because I was feeling too coldy and not really.
I wasn't really there anyway.
I wasn't really present as it was.
So there was a sort of a nasty tall rail on the edge of a plowed field, and you had to sort of go into the plowed field and then take a sharp left and go over the rail.
And the rail was down a steep hill.
And I just, I mean, I shouldn't have done it.
Hounds weren't running.
It wasn't necessary.
There was probably a way around.
But I just thought, well, everyone else is going to do it, so I better do it.
And I think maybe if I'd slipped the reins a bit more, if I just basically let go of the reins and let the horse do it, I'd probably have survived it.
But as it was, I got pulled off and hit the ground with a thump.
And clearing the jump.
I mean, I got over the jump fine and then just landed not very well.
And I thought I got away with it because I wasn't as sort of bruised and battered as I often am off these things.
But when I went to see Michelle, she said, oh, you're terrible.
You're really bad.
Your cranial rhythms are just like, if I hadn't treated you, you'd have been in the valley of the shadow of death or something.
You know, you'd have been depressed.
I mean, I have.
I've been depressed and miserable for the last few podcasts.
And now I know why.
Concussion.
And it's really annoying because it's like, I don't know how much more of this I can do.
And obviously I want to be doing it, but you don't want to be.
You don't want to be going hunting, worrying about being injured.
That's the problem.
You want to be going home.
That was the ever-present possibility.
Anyway, so that's.
You are quite an old man there.
I am quite an old man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But.
I am.
Yeah, it's obviously not a great place to be.
You've been concussed for the last two or three podcasts.
Yes.
Blimey.
Yeah, so the last three podcasts, certainly I would have been concussed.
Or possibly four podcasts.
Actually.
Yeah.
Have you got visible bruises on you?
No, no, no, not at all.
No.
It's more the kind of, I think it's the when you hit the ground, your brain gets whacked.
Like a boxer.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
Exactly.
So I didn't land on my head, but it doesn't really matter.
It's the whiplash that causes the kind of well, as you know, I had to take our father to see Michelle the other day.
He was in a right old state, and she hopefully has put him straight.
She's like an angel, Dick.
She's like an angel.
She is.
She certainly is for dead poles.
She is.
She's like a rescue.
She's not our guardian angel.
She's our rescue angel.
She's the international rescue angel.
Well, love rescue angel.
So, yes, so that was an annoying thing.
I'm trying to think of something that might be...
Oh, yeah.
Are you looking forward to Dick and James's Christmas special?
I am.
Is it just me or are there special guests?
No, what I find.
Okay, so there will be sort of faces, I imagine, that people will recognise, you know, to hang out with and stuff.
But what I find is that when you – there's you and me, and we just do our chat.
When you invite other people onto the stage, it gets a bit awkward.
You sort of make a bit of small talk, and then it's like a sort of – Well, obviously, I'm famous enough in my own right to – Well, what do you – Well, you are.
I think you are.
I think you are.
I get recognised in small obscure churches, you know.
I think people will be amused and delighted by you, Dick.
And presumably, we will play some of our old games.
I mean, even though we can't play the yes-no game, I think we'll be able to play.
I've been trying to think of variations on it, and I will put my mind to coming up with something.
But it's a different world out there now.
It is a different world.
I think we're going to talk about what a different world it is.
And I'm going to give you, I think we do this every time, don't we?
I'm going to give you my latest position on everything.
Right.
Like, what time of the day.
James's state of the nation.
So, so I'm definitely on, remember when we used to talk about, you're really down the rabbit hole when you know that Churchill was worse than Hitler.
Hmm.
It's that's kind of so I'm there.
I'm not I'm not on I'm not on Hitler was a goodie But I'm definitely on Churchill was worse than Hitler.
But we can talk about that anyway.
And we're going to talk about my stuff about the world wars and you should have a present for me from Russia.
Do you know what?
There is going to be a present presentation.
Right, good.
And you are going to be...
I can't wait to see your little face light up.
Because I...
Do you know what you could have brought me now, in retrospect?
An icon.
i know i've got izzy uh orthosis gave me an icon of saint paisios And it's on my desk.
And who is he?
Ah, you'll love him.
You're going to get to know all the saints, Dick, and you're going to love St. Paisios.
He's quite a recent one.
I'm old enough to remember when he was simply Elder Paisios.
Is this the chap you met on Mount Athos?
I like to tease people into thinking that I met.
I'd love to have met him on Mount Athos.
I don't think I actually did.
I met another elder who would definitely, who is probably a saint now, but.
At the show itself, but you must recap on the car journey down Mount Athos story.
I can't quite get that right in my mind as to how it happened and who was in the car and the order of events.
So we'll go on.
I will tell you that story.
We'll keep our powder dry for some things for the show.
I told that story to a monk.
By the way, viewers and listeners, it's not going to just be Dick and me sitting down and talking about orthodox things.
We'll talk about it.
We're going to cover everything.
We're going to cover everything.
It will be the everything conversation.
And then afterwards you get to hang out with lots of people that you love, the best friends you never knew you had.
And we sing Jerusalem.
And you know about the church service that I'm organising?
Yes.
The following day.
Yeah.
And you've chosen the hymns.
I've chosen the hymns.
So I've got two, definitely, lining up.
Have you got Hills of the North Rejoice?
Have I got Hills of the North?
Of course I have.
And that's thanks to you.
Yeah.
Because when you mentioned that it's got an Advent voice in it.
To the Advent voice, Ali and Loland sing.
And that explains to me why it's never on the bottom.
Yeah, you don't get it throughout the year.
You've got to catch it at Advent or not at all.
And if you're not going to church except for Easter and Christmas, you'll miss out Advent, and so you'll miss all the build-up stuff.
I've been looking though, and there aren't that many Advent hymns.
Right.
Well, the problem is, if you Google it, AI is rubbish.
It just doesn't come up with AI.
AI is a lie, isn't it?
And it just makes it up.
It basically shoves in Christmas hymns.
It hasn't got a clue.
No, it hasn't.
And the thing about AI is it's not just, it knows it hasn't got a clue, but it will brazenly lie because it knows that no one's going to ever take it up on it.
It's like, yeah, that's an interesting question.
Yes, you're very intelligent.
And I'm going to lie the ass off to you.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm lying.
But I'm going to flatter you.
Then you come back the next day.
That thing you told me yesterday turns out to be a lie.
Yes, you're very clever working that out.
I did tell a lie, but thank you for correcting me.
I will try and improve next time.
I will try and improve my lying technique.
Bastards.
The people who design, who program it must be so evil.
Yeah.
Can you imagine?
Yeah.
I mean, Elon Musk himself probably programmed it, but he's evil.
They've been waiting for this moment for years.
Millennia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
So hang on.
You ran the car story past a priest.
Never got past that bit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I said, I said, does that sound likely to you?
He said, yeah.
Yeah.
Yep, that sort of thing happens all the time.
Yeah, and I thought, well, if he thinks it happens.
But that was the same priest.
he's a bit suspect because he told me that um mosquitoes are not agents of the devil whereas i think i i think they're not right on everything he was He was in a mosquito-ridden monastery, and he wasn't bothered by them.
And I was thinking, oh.
Well, I think maybe that's the trick.
They only bite bad people.
People who haven't prayed enough now.
Who say I'm a bad person?
Well, you probably compared to an Orthodox priest.
I wonder whether you can achieve such levels of sanctity that mosquitoes don't bite you anymore because your blood isn't bad enough.
Remember when you were talking to Majid Noaz, was it about his time locked up in a cell?
And you were asking about the mosquitoes, and he said that's where you appreciate spiders.
Because the spiders eat all the nasty things that can bite you?
You'd have to get a pretty good spider to be doing that, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
When have you ever been in a room where, I'm not worried about the mossies because the spiders are going to...
There's no sharks, the crocs have had them all.
Yeah.
Exactly.
When have you been in that situation where I was just going to say that?
You don't know whether you're in that situation.
You might have a really good night's sleep and not know that were it not for the spider, you might have been eaten alive.
Yeah.
I would be very happy with spiders.
I have no problem with spiders.
Even I think bird-eating spiders, I wouldn't mind.
They don't make a noise for a start.
They don't.
Can you imagine if they did?
Oh.
What's sort of noise that a spider makes?
Yeah.
Because there had to be a bit of an E in there, just to capture the annoyedness of the mosquito.
But they're like a sort of dog mosquito, aren't they?
I suppose they're dogs.
They do make a noise.
But I think a sort of high-pitched snuffling would be a spider noise.
Go on, then do it.
Oh, yes.
Oh, that's quite skilled.
Suddenly, I like spiders less.
Now you've made the imaginary noise that a spider would make if it made a noise.
Which is unfair, isn't it, actually?
Yeah, we're giving poor spiders, like, they don't have a hard enough time already.
We're now saying they're noisy buggers who keep you awake at night with their snuffling.
Yeah, which clearly is not the case.
Which they don't.
No, no, no.
No.
So I'm trying to think what else have been on.
Because we haven't seen each other.
And I have been looking forward to seeing Dick.
And, you know, well, not.
Well, I've done other things.
You want to hear the other thing I've seen?
Yes, please.
Please.
We went to see John Shuttleworth on Wednesday night.
And I turned it down.
You turned it down?
Which was wise of me, actually, because you'd have just got me in my concussion phase, so I'd have been right anyway.
At a lovely little theatre in the middle of Worcester, Huntingdon Hall, which is kind of this very old hall with a balcony.
We were on the balcony.
Yeah, it was just great.
Did all the favourites.
He's been doing it for 40 years now.
This is his 40-year celebration called Raise the Oof.
Do you think I mean, he's reasonably famous?
Do you think he's Illuminati adjacent?
Do you think he's...
I don't think he does well enough to have made a half-decent deal with the Illuminati.
I think he...
He'd have had a pretty raw deal if that's what he did for his fame.
Yeah, but I was thinking about this.
i was thinking about okay robin hitchcock so do you remember you know you didn't go and see that bingo handjob or did you go and see it I remember you going to see it.
So the gig that everyone wishes they'd been to, because the tickets were like Gold, Dust, Gold, the Harry Potter ticket, no, the Charlie and Chocolate Packet.
Anyway, people wanted to go and see it.
And Robin Hitchcock was playing with R.E.M. in this tiny, tiny venue, the Borderline Club in London.
And I was thinking, Robin Hitchcock is not as famous and rich as R.E.M. And he's not as much of a wanker, definitely.
I mean, nobody could be more of a...
Well, actually, that's not true.
Bono could be more of a wanker than Michael Stipe.
But Michael Stipe, on the spectrum of wankerishness, is quite A-list wanker.
A-list.
A-list wanker.
Yeah.
But when when Robin Hitchcock made his pact, the deal was, OK, you're not going to be you're not going to be Jimmy Page.
You're not going to be you're not going to sell like R.E.M., but you are going to be the kind of the quirky, quirky English.
King of Quirky.
King of Quirky.
But that doesn't mean he's not Illuminati adjacent.
And so I'm thinking, John Shuttleworth, he was part of the punk scene, wasn't he?
Well, he had jilted John.
He did Gordon as a moron.
Yeah.
He did that song.
Had a hit in the hit parade, as it was called in those days, he'd have been on top of the pops yeah, with Jimmy Sal probably just saying Dick um.
Does that mean absolutely everyone who had a hit and who got on top of the pops was had made some sort of deal?
The Barren Knights um, who else?
Um, John Denver?
Definitely not obviously, but yeah, I just hadn't even considered his.
John Denver Illuminati.
John Denver was totally Illuminati.
Yeah, he was the Illuminati death plane crash.
Who else?
Not Linda Skinnyard?
I don't think not.
And not the Man, not the Busby BOYS from Manchester United and Buddy Holly or the Big Popper.
No, they were separate plane crashes.
That's the thing I mean.
It's not all.
It's not all sunshine and roses and and what do you think your chances of dying in a plane crash are?
The moment you become a rock star?
Do you think there's a your helicopter crash really, actually?
Well now, having said that, if you look at how many rock stars have died in plane crashes, it's got to be a percentage.
It might be only in single figures, but it's got to be.
You have a five percent chance of dying in a helicopter, and I bet that none of those plane crashes.
Was organic, was natural?
No, they're all.
They're all.
They're all fixed, aren't they?
They're all.
The planes have been sabotaged or whatever.
It's why?
Who doesn't, who doesn't, travel in helicopters?
Is it?
Is it?
Is it Putin?
I think yeah, doesn't travel in helicopters?
Um, I mean, you wouldn't want to travel in a plane either.
Really, global warming is a massive con.
There was no evidence whatsoever that man-made climate change is a problem, that it's going to kill us, that we need to amend our lifestyle in order to deal with it.
It's a non-existent problem.
But how do you explain this stuff to your Normie friends?
Well, i've just brought out the revised edition to my 2012 classic book Watermelons, which captures the story of how some really nasty people decided to invent the global warming scare in order to fleece you, to take away your freedoms, to take away your land.
It's a shocking story.
I wrote it as I say in it.
Well, 2011 actually, the first edition came out and it's a snapshot of a particular era, the era when the people behind the Chin climate change scam got caught red-handed tinkering with the data, torturing till it screened in a scandal that I helped christen Climate Gate.
So I give you the background to to the skullduggery that went on in these seats of learning, where these supposed experts were informing us.
We've got to act now.
I rumbled their scam.
I then asked the question, okay, if it is a scam, who's doing this and why?
It's a good story.
I've kept up the original book pretty much as is, but I've written two new chapters, one at the beginning and one at the end, explaining how it's even worse than we thought.
I think it's a good, I think it still stands out.
I think it's a good read.
Obviously I'm biased, but I'd recommend it.
You can buy it from jamesdellingpole.co.uk forward slash shop.
You'll probably find it won't just go to my website and look for it, jamesdellingpole.co.uk.
And I hope it helps keep you informed and gives you the material you need to bring round all those people who are still persuaded that, oh, it's a disaster.
We must amend our ways and appease the gods, appease Mother Guy.
No, we don't.
It's a scam.
It's why who doesn't travel in helicopters?
Is it Putin?
I think.
Yeah.
Doesn't travel in helicopters.
I mean, you wouldn't want to travel in a plane either, really.
Well, all it takes is a missile.
You wouldn't want to travel.
No, you wouldn't.
You really wouldn't want to travel.
Yeah.
So the Baron Knights, I think, are probably not Illuminati adjacent.
Do you think?
Highly unlikely.
Ten Pole Tudor.
10 pole tudor i would say probably are does that yeah Well, Eddie Tempole, Eddie Tudor Tempole, whatever he is.
Tudor Poll.
Ed Tudor Poll.
Ed Tudor Pole, who claims to be of our lineage of the pole that he claims.
The De La Poles.
The De la Pole.
Plantagenet royalty.
Debauched kind of aristocracy connected.
So they're all Illuminati.
Who else?
Bernard Cribbins.
Oh, obviously.
Definitely.
Yeah.
All those, although Harry Seacombe would have been Illuminati adjacent, Spike Milligan, the whole modern all these people, I bet there are photographs of them making the going or doing the doing the one eye thing.
You know, the moment we do these things, it's going to be screen grabbed.
I'm used to this.
There are some complete and utter twats out there who are convinced that I had one the other day, and if you're listening, annoying person who lives in Costa Rica and somehow hung on by his fingernails to my one of my minor Telegram groups.
He sent me this innocuous question the other day.
He said, so you were at the launch party of the Turning Point UK with Charlie Kirk and John Mappin and Candice Owens.
Did you talk to any of them?
And I was thinking, I'm not going to answer your pathetically loaded question.
You think that what?
Because you come to get you get invited to this party at a London club where you get given glasses of champagne and you might spend two minutes talking to somebody you've been introduced to and having an awkward conversation.
Think that you think that's a, that's a tell.
Do you think that you found me out just because somebody found this information on the internet and and and put it up on one of your James Delling pole is his Illuminati um, conspiracy theory things?
I, I don't know.
I I dick.
I don't know how stupid and paranoid you'd have to be to think that I am compromised.
I can't imagine the levels of paranoia.
It's not just paranoia it's, it's stupidity, it the the lack of discernment.
Do you know what I think?
Yeah well, we can only see it from where we are.
And the fact that I know you and uh, but by their fruits and all that, I mean, I suppose, if you're looking, if you're looking yeah, by their fruits, I think is is enough justification but um, it's if, if you're looking for the connections, I mean the fact that you know Gove Johnson Cameron, etc etc.
Ah, he was at university with all of them.
He's bound to be wrapped up in that whole uh, sordid world.
But they don't see.
They don't see day-to-day James, which I hardly ever see these days anyway, but I know what you're like.
No, but they, but they, but they see, they see podcasts James, I again, what would be the purpose?
What what, what am I if i'm, if i'm, Illuminati adjacent?
What am I doing?
What am I?
Am I just pushing?
If I was to try and play devil's advocate, you could be gatekeeper right, you could be taking them so far, but not there.
But I don't know where the not there is, because there's nowhere you won't go, including flat earth.
I'd love to know where i'm not taking people, because that's my next area of inquiry.
I mean, i'd love to know what, what.
The secret stuff I don't know is that I should be knowing and telling people about.
That would be good.
Um, I haven't found one of those recently.
I don't think i'm running out of rabbit hole that you didn't like the look of.
No i've i've, i've rejected a few.
I mean i'm still not convinced by Tartaria.
It's a tough one.
I mean that if, if you know a little bit about history of art architecture, you'll know that there were a lot of stonemasons back then and it was like sort of it's not a great stretch to understand that you can chip away a stone and then put it on another stone and eventually build a cathedral.
It's uh um, and other great buildings, etc.
Etc, um.
So I find it a little bit of a stretch, the whole Tartaria thing.
I'm really intrigued by the missing years thing, the the fact that our calendar doesn't have to do missing years thing, but I the problem is the guy who something Chenko um, some Russian name.
They're really, really long.
Each episode's about an hour and there's about twenty of them.
And he does raise some.
So I listen to the first one.
It's all been translated, obviously, because he doesn't speak English, I don't think.
And I listen to the first one, and it becomes very clear quite quickly that this idea that ordinary people have, that you and I might have had, that, yeah, if something, if something happened in, say, AD 23, this is reliable because historians don't get it wrong.
And you realise that the way that they use to calculate time, particularly the further back you go, it's very inexact.
So there is a lot of room for confusion and muddling.
And maybe the Jesuits did do something or other.
But I haven't got.
I'd like somebody who could explain it to me in a way an idiot can understand.
Because then I might get it.
Yeah.
I mean, what year are we in?
Oh, I don't know.
After the death of Christ.
The death and resurrection, of course, of Christ.
And that has a bearing on things like Second Coming and that sort of stuff, doesn't it?
Oh, well, I think you can't...
Yeah, but you can't...
I mean, imagine living your life round calendars in order to be able to ascertain when Christ is going to return.
Well, you're not supposed to know anyway.
He tells you.
He makes it quite clear.
He makes it really clear.
You're not supposed to know.
You've just got to be ready.
Yeah, exactly.
Although it seems to me that the other side are very keen on their dates and their calendars.
Well, they would be there.
They want to do the exact opposite of what we've been told to do.
Ah.
Yeah.
I suppose that's it.
So they'd be encouraging the whole obsession with timekeeping and what year it is and when he's coming and etc etc.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I was thinking, given you're an author, bro, maybe I should give you the Everyday Saints book that I keep talking about for Christmas.
Well, you're going to buy it though, aren't you?
Or I can buy it for you.
Well, do you have a copy of it?
It would be cheaper for you if I bought it for you.
Yeah, but I'm thinking I want to give it to somebody poor.
Okay.
Poorer than me.
Yeah, poorer than you, Dick.
Wow.
As you are.
That's a church mouse as I am.
If I were a shepherd, I would bring him.
If I were something, I would do my part.
But what can I give him?
Get in his heart.
Is that an Advent hymn?
No.
It's in the bleak midwinter, isn't it?
I think that could be an Advent hymn.
Do you think?
No, because he's been born in that.
But it's about bringing gifts to the infant Christ.
No?
I don't know.
There seems to be a lot of fudging between...
And also there's a lot of snow for the Middle East.
Doesn't seem right, does it?
No, no, no, but that's because it's like we incorporated that stuff.
We added that.
Right, added snow.
Yeah.
Yes, you don't read Agent 1711, do you?
Or whatever.
He's on Substack.
No.
No, he doesn't.
You hardly even get to watch your podcast.
We did a series about Christmas, and you realise that Christmas was basically invented by the enemy.
I mean, not the bit where Jesus was born.
Not the Nativity.
Not Donkeys and Mary and stuff.
That's all right.
But Santa is meant to be an anagram of Satan and all the commercialization.
Actually, this made me think another person who was in on the game.
Dickens.
Dickens basically invented Christmas.
And Dickens was probably in with Albert.
I mean, do you think Dickens knew Albert and Victoria must have done, wasn't he?
He was the one who did a degree in English at Oxford.
He sends me these long, long, long, incredibly erudite screeds like this one, Dick.
The one I want to get him to talk about, which is that the Irish Troubles was orchestrated by British intelligence.
And do you know who the head of it was?
The head of evil?
Mountbatten?
Nope.
Good guess.
Lord Carrington.
lord carrington totally evil um but in another of his of his he's still alive No, he's not.
Lord Carrington, rather interestingly, you remember in A Bridge Too Far, and you remember that the British armoured units are going along these roads above the dikes that separate the dikes.
These narrow roads.
And they're trying to get to Arnhem to relieve the beleaguered paratroopers, the beleaguered air.
Hold until relieved.
And Carrington was in the Guards Armoured Division and was in, I think, the lead squadron that didn't advance any further down the road because they said that there could be Germans with 88s waiting for them.
It might be dangerous.
And there weren't any 8.
In the film, they're brewing tea, aren't they?
That's right.
So it's an American-made film, isn't it?
So they wanted...
They had to get that in.
But...
But anyway, so Carrington, I think he was a serious wrong.
And the reason I mention him is because I think of the most occult occultic kings and queens we've had, one of the worst was Queen Victoria.
Another one was James I. People who sort of practice the dark arts.
Right.
So it would make sense that Queen Victoria and Albert, you know, decorating the pagan tree in their house.
We will bring a tree into his house.
Vict Vicki.
Ein Bauer.
Ein Baum.
Baum.
Yes.
Baum in the house.
Yes.
Weinachtsbaum, we would call it.
Or something like that.
Weinachten Baum.
And Zenvieville have sex.
I think they had a very active sex life, didn't they?
When she was.
Yes, apparently so.
Yes.
I will give you a Rogering against the Baum.
Mein Vicky.
Mein Liebschen.
That's probably what happened, isn't it?
And then Dickens comes round.
That's almost exactly how it is.
Ho, ho, ho!
I have an idea.
I have an idea that I will invent Christmas.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm interrupting something.
Yes, there's some Dickens going on.
In the future, Simon Cullow will play me.
Yes, he will.
But in the meantime, I shall watch you.
No, we've just got to ruin Christmas.
Yeah, yeah, but maybe we should.
Maybe we should ruin Christmas.
Maybe Christmas needs ruin.
If you're thinking of coming to the Dick and James Christmas special, this is a taste.
Taste of the kind of thing you might expect.
But live.
But live.
Imagine that.
Imagine.
Imagine the laughter.
It won't be canned laughter because we can't.
You can smell it as well.
Will you?
The smell of pine and the smell of pine.
And pizza and merriment.
And the pizza we have is very good.
And the...
I rarely – because, of course, I'm giving my special – they're not called VOPs anymore.
You know, we had complaints about when I call them VIP tickets.
I'm quite right.
I mean, we don't have VIPs in our world.
So I think we changed them to something like what, filthy Illuminati plutocrat scum tickets.
They could have been tiger sharks or something like that.
You thought about that?
What, tiger shark tickets?
Yeah.
Well, if they're sharklings and they get promoted.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, they could be great whites, I mean...
Yeah, well, let's hold back great whites for something really special.
But tiger sharks would be way up there.
Okay.
So, well, whatever they are, they're having bell-ringing lessons, which is lovely.
I mean, it's great, and I spend quality time with them.
I might even do something Sami with them as well.
I don't know.
But I don't want to spoil their surprise.
I'll wing it when it happens.
But what I find is that I don't leave a big enough gap between that and the event to get.
It was kind of like kind of on a knife edge last time.
It was very worryingly, where is James?
Yeah, that is the problem.
You spread yourself too thin.
I do.
I might have to get the VIP guests to come a bit earlier so that I've got time for to eat some pizza.
Otherwise, I'm just going to be I'm having one of my crashes where a bit like you're going to get all the time when you denied oil.
Yeah, I'll make up for it another way somehow.
But you know what else we can't miss?
You've got to actually watch your brother and his band.
I made some sort of amusing quip to Andy, your lead guitarist and singer, and about how awful your band was.
And he said, well, you'd know, wouldn't you?
Not having ever seen us.
He is so right.
That's a good comeback.
Yeah, but Dick.
But Dick, it's the problem is that I need a kind of some special kind of, before you go on stage, you need to downtime to, it's not that I think you're rubbish and I hate you and I don't want to see you.
The spirit is willing, but the performance flesh is weak.
Right, well, at the very least, I want you to hear our psalm that has pretty much been written for you.
Okay, which psalm is that?
Which we've been working on?
Psalm 54.
I don't even know something.
There you go.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Do I?
Save me, O God, for thy name's sake, and avenge me in thy strength.
Oh, okay, yes.
I do know that one, but I know the KJV version because that was in the early days when I was learning psalm and I didn't realise.
It's a very short one.
Yeah.
Emily has written a really lovely tune to it.
Okay.
So it's my new favourite of our songs.
When you're in a band, your newest song is always your favourite, but this is a particular favourite because how many bands perform psalms?
Yes, it's save me, O God by thy name, and judge me by thy strength.
Hear my prayer, O God.
Give ears to the words of my mouth.
For strangers are risen up against me and oppressors seek after my soul.
They have not set God before them.
Selah.
Selah is this mystery word that appears in Psalms and no one knows what it means.
Yeah, what is Selah?
It just, no one knows.
It's just one of those moxa.
Yeah, it's one of those words that nobody knows what it means.
Apparently.
Do you remember what Moxa, the origins of moxa?
I know exactly what.
We were playing a game of Boulder Dash.
And the word Moxa came up.
And I know what Moxa means now, but you came up with the best definition.
Lie of a definition, which was that it was a Yiddish version of Yiddish expression for shrug.
Shrug, yeah, yeah.
moxa moxa so moxa moxa so ever since i I think everyone voted for my definition.
and um the the real it was a case of the real word no one voted for because it's that stuff you burn for acupuncture uh It's what?
It's mugwump.
Mugwump, that's a much better word.
Or was it mugwort?
Mugwort?
It's like a sort of incense you burn on your flesh, isn't it?
Hang on.
I like mugwump.
I think mugwort, moxa.
Let's have a look.
Oh, look at this.
Moxa, your trusted partner in automation.
I hate the shit that comes up when you search for an ordinary word.
Okay, what is moxie used for?
Oh, sorry, I was wrong.
It's mugwort, not mugwump.
Traditional Chinese medicine used in that.
Yes, it's those things that when you're doing acupuncture, instead of the needle, they put the.
Well, sometimes they do it to prepare an acupuncture point that they burn and then brush away and then needle that point.
I haven't had acupuncture for ages, but it sorted out my eczema.
Moxa.
Moxer.
Yeah, well I'm very excited.
I really think you're going to love your present.
Also if I give you that book.
Lord, do I try to wrap it?
Well, if you're going to give me something, the unwrapping is the theatre, isn't it?
Yes.
Yeah.
You just want to avoid doing any work, don't you?
No, it's not.
It's particularly wrapping.
I don't like rapping.
I like rapping.
Do you?
Yeah, I'm quite good at it.
That is a Christmas show conversation.
that's not a now conversation we shouldn't be Christmas is too late for wrapping unless you're a bloke of course Which I am.
I was on the point of saying something then.
I've forgotten what it was.
It'll come back at some point.
Come on.
Make it come back.
No.
No.
Nope.
It's gone completely now.
When you chase these things, they will go further away from you.
Yeah, I suppose.
The problem is that I'm still in a kind of, I feel like I'm in a sort of post-concussed state.
Well, a treatment the like of which Michelle gives isn't necessarily going to give you immediate relief.
It's often a night of pain and then you wake up a lot better the next day.
You know what man found.
can be aching a lot after after being as he described it brutalised I'm also being this is a terrible thing I'm being treated also by Sonia, who's a homeopath.
And Sonia says that my adrenals are completely, massively overworked, and that therefore I should avoid caffeine.
How many coffees do you have a day?
Well, you see, this is the thing.
At the moment, I'm on no coffees a day.
That's not enough coffees.
No, I know.
Well, I have decaf.
What's the point of that?
Well, it makes you think you're almost having coffee, but not quite.
But, unfortunately, after this, I'm going to have to have a cup of tea.
And I've got a bell ringing tonight as well.
Do you know what I mean?
I've progressed to the level, Dick, where you ring bells with other people.
I assume that's what you were always doing.
No, you have to master the basics first.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
You can't just go into, you can't just walk up to the church and go, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
I didn't think you'd be doing them all on your own.
I've just assumed that.
it's really hard well I was that was me acting like I was is it harder than that yeah Yeah.
Yeah, it's harder than that.
It's like going to the gym and doing the pulling up thing.
Yeah, the bridge of your nose, that one.
Right.
You should never do that.
Oh, well, you should, because it's good for your back.
Right.
Back, you know, those muscles there.
Which one do I do for that?
Because, you know, we're always doing that, aren't we?
We're always straining forward.
Yeah, and you are always doing that while you're podcasting.
Yeah, that's probably more to try.
You've hardly ever got your hands by yourself.
Oh, Lenny.
that must have made a noise do you do you still eat bread?
Yes.
And you allow yourself.
So would you now be able to have some, say, some cup of tea and the peanut butter on toast?
I never had peanut butter.
Why not?
I don't like peanut butter.
Do you like almond butter?
I've never tried it, but I probably should, and I probably would.
I like peanut butter and things like satay.
I just can't abide it on its own.
It's a weird thing.
It took me ages to learn to eat peas.
I'll tell you what's a game changer.
What?
Realizing that in your morning bowl of yogurt, which I presume you have.
I'm on porridge during the winter.
No, bad.
Bad?
Bad.
I think it's animal food.
You're never meant to eat oats, ever.
They're just bad.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like eating strychnine or something.
Well, no, probably not that bad, but maybe it's like bits of grass coated with strychnine.
Okay, porridge bad.
So, I mean, look, the nutritionists can write in and contradict me if they want to, or they can, I would hope they would agree with me.
But the game changer thing, you are allowed to eat yogurt is good, especially full-fat Greek yogurt, because it's Greek Orthodox yogurt.
It's Orthodox.
The game changer is realising that you can put almond butter in it.
Right.
Do you put honey in yours?
I do when I'm feeling ill, which I'm at the moment, so I'm allowed.
But it's a luxury item as far as you're concerned.
Well, it's more that you're kind of thinking, do I want to be putting more sugar in me?
But then you're thinking, bees, very good.
We like bees.
And I think natural sugar is actually okay.
Yeah, and honey, decent honey, is probably the best.
Honey, I think, is good.
So, yes, so you've got honey.
Do you know what?
Do you know what I can't eat at the moment?
Which is really annoying?
Apple.
I did a hair test, and it came back.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
You've currently got a temporary intolerance for apple and blueberry and venison.
And it's unfortunate because I just harvested the last of the year's apples and put them in storage and turned them into delicious kind of, or the fawn turned it into delicious apples stewed with cinnamon, so it was nice to have, like, you warm it up and have it with the yogurt so you're not eating cold.
Yeah.
And I like drinking apple juice in the evening with my cigarette instead of alcohol.
So that's out.
And can't have the apples.
You know how shit fruit gets at this time of year?
Yeah.
And the other annoying thing is there's a delicious recipe that I do of, it's like shepherd's pie, but made with venison and celeriac.
It's really, really good.
This fantastic Cypriot food writer, whose name I forget.
But it's a really good recipe.
It's a really good winter recipe.
And the venison has got all sorts of things in it, like it's got red currant jelly, slow gin, juniper berries, ground juniper berries, and mushrooms.
It's delicious.
It's very wintery.
Yeah, exactly.
I can't have it.
But I'm thinking, because I didn't have any lunch today, and I've been told I mustn't do any fasting at the moment because that one is just my drink.
It doesn't sound like it would take too long to knock up that particular recipe.
You've just got to go and get hold of all those ingredients.
Yeah, yeah, well, I can't have that.
But now, after this conversation, I'm going to break Sonia's rules.
Have you ever tried decaffeinated tea?
No.
No, it's barbaric.
Absolutely horrible.
Anyway, the problem is that the tea I have, I think the tea you have as well, cannot be recreated elsewhere because everyone else's tea is rubbish.
So I get Whittard's Kenyan Kenyan tea.
And it's strong.
It's got a good amber curriculum.
It's very Kenyan tea.
Yeah, leaf tea.
So whenever you go to other people's houses and they say, would you want a cup of tea?
You know that their tea is going to be shit.
It's always shit.
Because no tea I ever use.
And you can't even say to them, would you mind not using tap water, please?
yeah would you oh and would you not mind not using your tea bag twice in i did that to you once didn't i Did you really?
Yeah, I regret it, and I will regret it to the day I die because of all the people not to do that.
You were utterly disgusted.
Quite right, too.
Yeah, I put on my table.
I don't know what I was thinking.
No.
But the problem is that when I give the tea to the builders, quite often they can't handle it.
We had some.
All they want is a cup of PG with sugars.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
So that's it.
So that's what I'm going to do after this.
Well, tomorrow, I've just remembered, and this might have been the thing I was going to say, I'm going to Vespers.
And guess how I'm getting there?
You're not.
No, I'm going in my dacha duster.
On your guzzler.
It's too cold to be on my Vesper, but I would love to do that.
And how they would laugh in the church and say, you'll never guess how I arrived.
Yes.
Was it the Vespers you met the priest who died?
No, no, evensong.
Oh, sorry.
Yes, Vespers is Vespers.
Saturday night.
It's a kind of like precursor to the Sunday precursor to Spanish.
What time is it?
Six o'clock.
Well, that sounds like evensong.
But it's not evensong.
It's Vespers.
It's a monastic thing.
Yes, no, obviously, but what do you get in Vespers?
I don't know.
I'll let you know when I've been to one.
They said, oh, you must come along to Vespers.
And they've got a Bible study group afterwards, which I probably won't have time to do because I've got to go to a prep school reunion at the Nag's Head in Moulin.
That clash of ideologies.
I've been invited to one of those things.
I've now become part of one of our local, the sort of the hardcore people who meet on a Tuesday once a month to have an evening prayers service and somebody gives a talk.
And I gave a talk.
Have you been to one?
Yes, I gave a talk on Saint Matrona.
Oh.
Yeah.
Right.
Here's one of the Russian Orthodox saints.
Very good.
She's good.
She heals you.
Heals people.
Miraculous.
She was born without any eyes.
And she had just the eyelids covering up these kind of empty sockets.
And she was born into a peasant family in 1885, and her parents were so poor that they wanted to give her away to the orphanage when she was born.
But before she was born, her mother had a dream of this white dove in her hand with a human face.
And somehow she interpreted the message with this dream was, you must keep this child because this child is special.
So she kept the child.
And when she was baptized, this sweet-smelling vapor came out of the font.
And the priest said, I've never seen this before.
This child is going to be something special.
And she turned out to have miraculous healing powers.
And soon people were queuing up at the door to be healed by this child's prayers.
And in return, people would give food and other gifts.
So this child became the breadwinner of her family.
And then she went through the Russian Revolution when she was in hiding in Moscow.
And she kept being, even though she was blind and lame as well, she couldn't walk from the age of 17.
She kept being moved from house to house.
And somehow she was always a step ahead of the authorities.
Except on one occasion where the policeman, the secret policeman, managed to, or the policeman probably, came into her house and said, I write, I'm going to take you off to the Lubyanka or whatever.
And she said, I'm not going anywhere.
I can't go anywhere because I'm stuck on this bed.
But you need to go and see, go home now because you've got an urgent domestic crisis.
And the policeman listened to her for some reason, went home, discovered that his wife had been badly burned and rushed to hospital and just saved her life.
So the next morning, the policeman turns up and says, Did you arrest that blind girl?
He gets asked by his superior.
He said, No, I didn't, and I'm not going to because she saved my wife.
So that was Saint Matrona.
She's now very venerated by Muscovites.
She's one of the most loved saints of Moscow.
Okay.
Well, I've got lots of this to come.
Good old.
Yeah, yeah, we love it.
Saints, they're great, aren't they?
We love the saints, yeah.
Let's hear it for the saints.
So, everyone, if you want to come and watch like Dick, just talking just like random stuff, if you find that maybe you don't, maybe you find it boring, then don't come.
But if you think it's if you think it could be entertaining, listening to us driveling on for not to mention pizza and unregistered chickens, unrested chickens and it's not just ordinary pizza either.
It's one of those bougie sort of like what's that bougie bread.
What's the stuff called that the hipsters eat?
Shachata.
Skyachata.
Skiacata.
Is it sha?
Is it unborn?
The stuff that you've got the dough and you have to keep it.
Yeah.
With the yeasty thing.
Sourdough.
Sourdough.
Sado.
Why could I not remember sourdough?
But mainly that you go, you go for the there's a there's a cash bar and then you you hang out with people that you oh wow I can talk crazy conspiracy stuff and no one's going to judge me.
In fact, they're going to congratulate me for being a crazy conspiracy theory.
In fact, the only thing you will be judged on is not being far enough down any rabbit hole.
I do invite a few of my local normies and they're always they have their minds blown.
We met rather entertaining friends, James.
What a funny lot they are.
No, but they come back.
They like it.
Yeah, it's these little things that gradually wake people up.
You can't just do it all in one hit.
You have to expose them to ideas.
Yeah, just one of those might catch them.
A Mithridatum.
A what?
A Mithridatum.
Mithridates was a king of Persia who was convinced he was going to get poisoned.
So, rightly so.
So he would, every day, he would take tiny quantities of all the poisons that he could conceivably be poisoned by.
So he'd build up an immunity, and that's called a Mithridatum.
All right.
Every day's a school day.
It is.
Right.
So, oh, yeah, the event.
If you want to come, the website is jamesdellingpole.co.uk, I think it is.
You get the tickets there.
I think it is.
And it's on the 6th, is it?
The 6th sounds about right.
The 6th.
It's on a Saturday.
The 6th of December.
6th of December.
I mean, it's quite central.
It's in Northamptonshire.
It's within easy reach of the M40 and sort of Daventry sort of area.
Daventry, exactly.
You know where Daventry is.
Most people don't know where Daventry is.
Most people don't know where Northamptonshire is.
They don't.
It's in the middle.
If you've got a rough idea, it's in the middle somewhere.
Anyway, it's worth it.
I'd say it's worth it.
Very few people, very few people go home saying, that was a waste of time.
I hated that.
Few, if any.
Few, if any.
I don't know.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Some of them, but you'd always want to.
You want tea?
It's not nailed on.
No.
Right.
I'm thinking now of toast and tea, even though.
Sorry, Sonia, but I need some tea.
I'm thinking I might just make it to the pub in time for one.
But oh, so you're lad.
I'm not started yet.
I'm not in there yet.
I'm going to enjoy all these bad things while I still can.
But I don't know the rules yet.
I need to get all this worked out, possibly with a priest.
How many Sundays are you going to go for?
Do you have to go there for?
Before what?
Well, no, what I mean is if they are you just going to go to the to the the the monthly with the priest or are you going to go to the uh other ones as well um i'll probably go the for the every other week Whenever they've got a service on a Sunday, I think it's kind of be one of those all-or-nothing things.
I don't think you can just sort of be a little bit author.
I think you have to throw yourself into it.
But I need help, and I need advice, and I need probably need to talk to a priest because everything I've done so far has been looking at it online.
And they all say you can't just do it through watching.
No, but you get a special priest that looks after you, who becomes your guardian.
Confessor and stuff.
Yeah.
No, I'm just at the very start of it all, so it's quite exciting to me.
I do love a confessor priest.
Yeah.
Well, you're going to miss out on all this.
I know.
Who knows?
Who knows?
But listen, your plan is to stick with your local churches and sod whatever they're doing higher up in the Church of England.
You've got your little parochial sort of thing going on, and it's all good for you.
I do almost feel it would be selfish for me buggering off from my community to but I don't think that's the way God is pushing you.
