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It's a non-existent problem.
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The first edition came out.
and it's a snapshot of a particular era.
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I rumbled their scan.
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Welcome to The Telling Pod, Ben Davidson.
I'm really looking forward to this chat because I've had so many people In my comment section, saying to me, you've got to talk about the polar shift.
And I'm like, well, is it some sort of woo thing, or is it real?
And if it is real, well, we're all going to die, so what can we do about it?
So maybe you can help me answer some of these questions.
But before we do that, tell me about yourself.
I mean, I think I know that you're a, That's a very expansive question, James.
I am the founder of Suspicious Observers and Space Weather News.
The YouTube channel is Space Weather News.
Founder of Observer Ranch.
Basically, my specialty is in electromagnetism.
And so it was easy to see how certain electromagnetic aspects of the sun, solar activity, what we call space weather, were being ignored in the climate realm to basically prop up a political piece of propaganda, which is completely false.
You're talking about climate change here?
Yep.
And from there, it, They're changing over time.
And looking a bit further down the road into extrapolating some of these changes, combined with other geophysical data, tells us that we are in the midst of a magnetic pole shift here on the planet.
And that is the reason why not only the climate is changing, Our culture is changing.
If it seems like people's brains are changing, people's personalities are changing, yes, and there's a very good scientific reason for that.
If it seems like earthquakes and volcanoes aren't behaving the way they used to, yep, and there's a good scientific explanation for that.
If it seems like we're getting way too many power and internet and other infrastructure blackouts, yep.
And the reason for all of those things is the fact that Earth is becoming more vulnerable.
Very much in a Star Trek-like, the shields are down, Captain.
Our magnetic shield as a planet, the magnetic field, is weakening.
And when that hits its peak, it's basically the end of our civilization and we go back to being cavemen again.
Until we can rebuild all of this.
Okay, so this is a topic that's become a lot more I've had Catherine on the podcast before.
She comes across as a fairly serious person, not the sort of person who would mention these things lightly if she didn't think it was a thing.
When you get these polar shifts, what causes them?
Are they just kind of part of a natural cycle?
They are part of a natural cycle.
The magnetic field of Earth shifts to some degree about every 6,000 years, but every other cycle, every 12,000 years, it is a major full cycle.
Now, this is different from what is known as a full cron magnetic reversal.
That would be the stripes in the mid-ocean ridge, say, in the middle of the Atlantic.
This is completely different from that.
This is one of the rapid flips, a geomagnetic excursion.
It is absolutely a natural cycle.
They happen fairly regularly.
And although they are not as much of an extinction level event as, say, a massive asteroid hitting the planet, they do take species out every single time.
cycle.
They reduce the population of the surviving species by 50 to 80 percent.
And then the world comes back over the next several thousand years.
And we get hit with this again.
Okay.
How do we know this?
Because you used a lot of And ever since I went down the rabbit hole, I've become very, very suspicious of any form of kind of scientific terminology which just goes over my head.
I'm kind of thinking, well, maybe I'm being sold a pup here.
How do I know?
I don't trust Isaac Newton anymore.
I think Newton was into the occult.
created by the establishment to put in the public imagination a popular image.
So for all I know, what you're saying could be bang on the money or it could just be another science guy telling me science stuff, which turns out...
The last one is well documented.
It's called the Tianqi Excursion.
In the last just 18 months, I've shared four different papers about that event.
The one before that was about 12,000 years.
It was called the Gothenburg Excursion.
About 18,000 years ago, Helena Pauly, hundreds of papers on that one.
They can't have been documented because there weren't people around then.
They can only be inferred.
They're in the sediment.
Okay.
And how does the sediment show these things?
In terms of the polar shift, it's looking at things like magnetite to see which direction Earth's magnetic field was pointing at the time.
That information is locked in the rocks just like it is...
Not the thing I'm talking about here today, but it's the same basic principle.
Anytime you have sediment deposited or lava that is cooling, it locks in the direction and, to a certain extent, the intensity of Earth's magnetic field at that time of either sedimentation deposit or lava cooling.
Okay, so say you've got a compass and the needle points north.
Right.
When there's a polar reversal, presumably north becomes south and south-north, is that?
Yeah.
And what are the effects of this?
I mean, what is it that's going to kill us when this happens?
Well, it has nothing to do with your compass, I'll tell you that.
But what does Earth's magnetic field do?
It protects us from all the scary stuff in space so we don't turn into Mars.
Mars used to look like Earth, and then it lost its magnetic field forever.
Just completely lost it.
And so now Mars looks like Mars.
But the reason this happens is because when we lose our magnetic field, All of the scary stuff from space has an easier shot at Earth.
It's like you're boxing wearing a helmet and then you take your helmet off.
The same kind of stuff that you could take a minute ago, it hurts a lot more.
The same kind of stuff that may have just hurt before now knocks you out cold kind of stuff.
And this begins with the ozone layer.
So this energy starts degrading the ozone layer.
Why is this a big deal?
One, when that happens, it lets in more ultraviolet light because that's what the ozone layer does.
It blocks out the dangerous forms of ultraviolet.
And this extra ultraviolet light has two impacts on the world.
One, that does cause significant changes in climate.
This is the reason why we have, quote, global warming right now.
Because the thing that is stopping that energy from the sun It's getting weaker and weaker and letting more of it in.
The other thing is our skin.
This is damaging to our skin.
And so it is a right off the bat, a climatological and biological hazard.
However, those particles that are coming in protons and electrons, mostly the things that are I mean, think about it.
A proton is...
It is an electromagnetic field around our planet.
It starts letting in more of those things as it weakens.
Those things also impact the weather, specifically cloud production, cloud condensation nuclei.
Atmospheric electricity, which then plays a role in lightning and precipitation in wind, not to mention the fact that whether it's cloudy or sunny determines how hot it is that day.
So temperature, precipitation, wind, humidity, lightning, storm levels in general, it impacts them.
And at the exact same time, this is the same kind of situation.
We're talking DNA damage.
We're talking mitochondria, your body's energy production thing in every single cell.
That gets messed with.
Everything from blinking to your heart beating.
Every bodily process is mitigated by electrolytes.
Electro-lights.
Charged sodium, magnesium, potassium.
Chlorine in terms of making HCL so you can actually digest food.
This messes with all of that.
And so, what I just described, right off the bat, we have a double dose of climate chaos and a double dose of biological radiation hazard just straight off the bat.
Now, while this is happening, it's not just birds that use Earth's magnetic field for migration.
It's whales, it's turtles, it's sharks, it's various fish, both saltwater and freshwater.
It's every single insect they have ever studied, specifically the pollinators who need to go and find the ultraviolet signals coming off of flower petals.
It also affects seeds.
It affects plants in terms of flowering and germination.
It affects mammals, bears, deer, dogs, big cats.
It affects all of them, and not just for migration, but for hunting.
For foraging, for finding reproductive zones.
You might think about salmon swimming upstream to find their mating zones.
A lot of that is magnetic field driven.
And so while we're getting a double dose of climate chaos and a double dose of biological radiation hazard, animals up and down the food chain have no idea what the heck they're supposed to be doing, no idea where the heck they're supposed to be going, can't find the thing.
And so for all these various reasons, it is a major Major punch to the biosphere, the living Earth.
And for humans, we have the extra issue of, you know, it is already a thing that if the sun fires big at Earth, it could take out power and send us back to the Stone Age.
They call this the solar kill shot, solar EMP.
NASA said whenever the sun does this again, if we are not way more prepared than we are now, 90% of the species is going to be dead in six months.
Why?
Because of the loss of infrastructure.
We now have no way to purify water.
We have no way to distribute water.
You turn on your faucet, nothing comes out.
Half of agriculture in the world is dependent on electricity, whether that's GPS for giant tractors or something else in terms of the tools and the machining and the refrigeration and the transport as well.
Within 24 hours of such an event, there'd be no food left at the store.
Half because people went and bought it all and half because they can't get more and they can't refrigerate what they have.
There's no ATMs.
There's no banking.
There's no transactions.
There's no internet.
There's no gas pumps.
There's no heating.
There's no cooling.
There's no 911.
And so basically, because our species has now become electro-dependent, pretty much the entire globe.
Humans now have another issue on top of the double dose of radiation and the double dose of climate chaos and the animals up and down the food chain basically not knowing what the heck they're supposed to be doing and everything going into chaos.
That's why every major study on this shows that this is a...
It's not like an asteroid the size of Texas is going to hit, but every single time, and more so on the double.
You remember I said to an extent this happens every 6,000 years, but every other one, every 12,000 years, it's really bad.
On those 12,000 year marks, the scientists are finding in the same layers where the magnetic field is shown to have locked in in a different direction.
They find major dangerous radiation isotopes.
They find 10 to 50 times the fossils in those layers.
And so every single time there are species that go extinct to the effect of 10 to 20 times the normal rate.
And at the same time, the number of other species.
Which don't go extinct, have their populations reduced again by 50 to 80%.
And this is again because climatologically, radiologically, and from a navigation perspective, everything is being thrown into a tornado.
Don't you kind of hope you're wrong?
Every day.
But I'm not.
I'm very good at math.
I'm also a speed reader and I have hyperthymesia.
Hyperthymesia, I have the mild version.
The major version of hyperthymesia would be you just name a date.
You know, back in the 90s, and I could tell you what grade I was in, what day of the week it was, what my teacher was wearing, what we were doing in class that day.
You know, you've heard of that before, people who can remember every last thing that ever happened to them.
That's the major version.
I don't have that.
I have the minor version, which, thank God, because it is as much of a curse as it is a blessing.
People have the major version.
I don't know how they live.
Have you met them?
I've met one.
And what was he like?
A horrendously depressed individual.
He was unable to function in society.
He was horrendously depressed.
What was the terrible thing?
What was the worst thing about his condition?
What was it He could even remember body language cues and other little tics in people.
And as he got older, he started to realize how much people had been lying to him, how much they had just been pandering to him.
He realized people that he trusted couldn't be trusted.
He realized critical things that he had believed in couldn't possibly be the case.
And he was pretty much just disenfranchised from human life in general.
I'm very glad I don't have that form of it.
So he basically couldn't let anything go because he remembered everything.
Yeah.
He couldn't let anything go.
He couldn't trust anybody.
That's awful.
It was.
But your thing, it sounds like a kind of superpower.
I mean, is it...
Tell me the...
So tell me a bit about it.
Now I'm talking to somebody who's got it.
What are the upsides and what are the downsides for you?
The downsides for me are if I get myself locked into a thinking pattern, the same way that you can try to talk to a seven-year-old kid who's watching the telly and they don't even hear you.
You're like, yo, wake up.
I'm talking to you.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I still do that when I get into these patterns where I'm...
It's funny, Ben.
I sometimes get accused of that by my family.
They say that there's a kind of, you've got to wait for the, it's like a sort of revolving metal thing and then there's a window in it and you have to wait for the window to come around.
Exactly.
Here's the thing.
It's not when I'm like watching TV or on my phone or something.
I can just be sitting there and it'll just look like I'm staring off into nothing.
But I'm not looking at whatever's right in front of me.
I'm looking at other things in my head.
It's beneficial because the minor version, you don't remember everything to a psychotic degree.
you remember everything you want to remember or that is impactful on you or that you think is important when you read it or see it or hear it, something like that.
So when somebody like me dedicates their entire life to figuring out what the heck is going on, And is this the same thing that happened over and over and over again in the past?
And what will this mean?
And what's going to happen to us now?
And I happen to have been trained mathematically.
At my father's request, I took courses on speed reading.
Pretty good at it.
Although nowhere near great level or anything like that.
But you go pick 100 random people on the street.
I can probably read faster than 99 to 100 of them.
And then on top of that, the hyperthymesia.
Yeah, I do hope every single day I come across something that makes me rethink this and what's coming, but I've been doing that for the last decade, and it's only gotten worse.
Can you read books and remember every word of them?
Yes, but I almost never do it like that.
And it's not necessarily the every word that you need to remember, it's the concepts.
And for the most important ones, I do end up remembering every single word verbatim.
Although I usually like putting things into my own words if I can.
Okay, but if it's, say you're learning poetry, which is, you obviously want to stick to the exact words that the poet, can you do that?
If I had an interest in it and I wanted to, absolutely.
I actually did that at one point in my life.
Junior year AP English, I did it for The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe.
Oh yeah, that's quite a long one, isn't it?
To be honest, there's like tens of thousands of people who have that poem memorized anyway.
Is it really that impressive?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I think...
You Americans, you love Poe.
He's your thing.
We do.
We're like, yeah, whatever.
We've got loads.
Did it make you popular at school or did it make you a bit of an outcast?
Well, I'd say that for the majority, until I got to college, until I got to university, I was somewhere between just the random kid and an outcast, but it didn't really have anything to do with this.
It was because I was far more preoccupied with what was going on in here than I was with interacting with other people, with social situations.
I only had a couple of girlfriends when I was in high school, and to be perfectly honest, it was just because I'm cute.
I had very, very few interpersonal skills.
It also caused me to be slightly more immature than I should have been for my age.
And so I would say it wasn't so helpful when I was young.
Much more helpful now.
Wouldn't it make you quite good at things like chess or poker?
I was phenomenal at chess.
Yeah?
Were you a master?
What are they called?
Not a grandmaster.
I quit playing chess in sixth grade.
But I won the school district championship, so I was beating high school kids that year for the championship when I was in sixth grade.
We had one for just my elementary school.
I won it kindergarten and first grade, and they asked me not to participate in it after that.
I mean, they weren't just like sawed off.
They were like, here, look, here's, I did that for several years, but to be honest, after a while, chess wasn't doing it for me.
You're very much a creature of whim.
You have strong likes and dislikes.
If you don't like something, if you're bored, you just move on.
Exactly.
I can't even tell you how much that infuriated my parents at different times.
Yeah.
I think I probably pissed off my ex-wife once or twice.
Although, I mean, you could just ask her.
She's an absolute expert on exactly what's wrong with me.
Well, I'm glad we had this digression because I was thinking Ben is really intense and I can't understand why he's so intense.
But now you've kind of made it easier for me to understand where you're coming from.
You know, a lot of my podcasts, they're kind of, you know, they're relaxed, you know, chatty, you know, they meander.
Whereas I think you like being, you're quite sort of directed, let's say.
I am only at peace when I'm at war.
And I've known that for many years.
I don't relax.
I don't chill.
I don't do any of that.
Could you chill if you wanted to?
I mean, can you mentally, are you capable of that?
How would you do it?
I'm not sure.
At this point, there's too many things that are relevant presently for me to shut off.
I mean, I wake up to do my morning show on YouTube at about 3.30.
And by the time I go to bed around 8.30 or 9 o'clock, I can't.
How long does it take you?
Why do you get up so early?
It takes about two to two and a half hours to do the morning show.
I have to go back and see about anything that was posted overnight.
I have about 100 different satellites to check.
I have about 200 data feeds I have to check.
Everything involving seismicity.
Earthquakes, volcanoes, weather, and then everything that the sun is doing as well.
And I also have to make sure that any paper that comes out, whether it's related to planetary science, the sun, astrophysics, the cosmology of the universe, whether we're talking about the grand scale of intergalactic space or we're talking about the tiny subatomic particles, it's all relevant.
And I can't miss a thing.
That's my job.
Okay.
So you left school and you disappointed your parents in various ways by not pursuing the paths that they wanted.
Yeah.
What did you study at college?
So I started off in meteorology.
I wanted to be the weatherman on TV.
And I was taking meteorology and physics classes.
I got into an argument with one of my professors at Penn State who Yeah.
No, seriously?
Yeah.
But you were taught by Michael Mann?
I don't know if that's how I'd put it, but we certainly had some disagreements, and I would say that he's responsible for a lot of who I am today.
I tried to come back and talk to him on Saturday.
But he sort of suggested that I find another major because I could never be a meteorologist, even though all I really wanted to do was include the most recent discoveries and papers and scientific models and other things like that.
So I ended up...
After that, I went to law school because what the hell else am I supposed to do?
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
My dreams have been shattered.
But I figured out very quickly in law school that I didn't want to be a lawyer.
After my first year of law school, I got an internship at the Supreme Court of Ohio.
They give out one of those to first-year law students.
I did all right my first year of law school, put it that way.
And I found out that the judges don't do anything.
The clerks do all the work unless it is baseball season and you have a summer intern, in which case the clerk just gives all of the work to his summer intern.
And it was kind of cool that October, you know, we're just a couple weeks into second year of law school.
It's October.
We're back in class.
And all of the cases that were decided that summer by the Ohio Supreme Court, Came out.
It was kind of cool to see one of the decisions had one word changed from what I submitted.
And then I took a step back and I was like, wait a minute.
I have been in laws.
I've had one year of law school.
I can't be writing Ohio precedent law.
This is not okay.
This is a broken thing that just happened here.
So after the second year of law school, I went to a traditional firm.
The name of the law firm was not Swindle and Shyster, but it might as well have been.
Leave for lunch at noon every day.
Somehow bill 80 hours a week.
Answer an email or a phone call, bill someone for an hour, just complete crooks.
And so I went into my third and final year of law school knowing I never wanted to be a lawyer, so what the hell am I supposed to do?
Luckily, I found a venture capital firm who saw my resume and they were like, you are perfect.
At that moment, I didn't exactly understand why, but when I got there, I sure did.
I didn't understand that to be a due diligence analyst for an investment firm, you know, people who are investing in things, you need to be an economics expert.
Thank God for my major.
You need to be a legal expert, not just in terms of what laws affect whatever business you're doing, but is there intellectual property?
Are there copyrights, patents, things like that?
And then on top of that, you need the subject matter expertise of whatever the heck you're investing in.
It's like you need three different things, and it turns out that me going from meteorology to physics to economics to law really primed me for that.
Not to mention the fact that law school is the last place in the world that teaches you how to think and not just repeat like a parrot whatever your professor told you.
Because most stuff, that's what you have to do.
You just have to know whatever they told you the right answer is.
However, there is no right answer when it comes to law.
But then there's also a federal judge that commented on this, and all three things are interpreted differently, and then you have to make the argument about which one applies to the set of facts that is before you at that exact moment.
And that training was absolutely critical, because I walked right in there, and it didn't matter.
What they were investing in, and boy, did they have very, very little focus.
They like to call it portfolio diversification.
I saw it as a lack of focus that made me master a new topic every couple of weeks.
But it turns out that those topics were things like mining volcanic porphyries, new chemical entities that had very peculiar and interesting electromagnetic biological mechanisms of action.
Basically, they killed viruses and bacteria electromagnetically.
It reignited my love for the science side of things and got me back into my specialty, which is electromagnetism.
That was always my specialty.
One day I was like, you know what?
I'm pretty good at doing this kind of research that almost nobody is good at.
I want to do research on things that interest me.
So I made a YouTube channel.
I started talking about the weather, the earthquakes, and what the sun was doing every single day.
They just released the new solar satellite with all those pretty colors.
Those things I show in the morning show, you can see them right there behind me.
And through sheer luck and the fact that I was reporting on these things every single day, Patterns began to emerge, and it became very obvious that people who predict the weather do not watch the sun.
People who watch the sun do not look at earthquake feeds at all, because if they did, they would very, very easily see, as even middle school kids were able to see, that these things are all connected, the sun and the weather, the sun and earthquakes, and the sun and human health.
And so from there, I just sort of, I was like, you know what, I'm just going to go with this.
And before I knew it, it was a full-time job.
I quit working for the investment firm and I did this full-time.
You must have been quite well paid at the investment firm.
I was better paid in 2010 than I am even still today on YouTube.
I gave up a lot of money to basically follow my heart here.
But you don't mind that?
No, I love it.
I love it.
I really do.
This is why I'm here.
This is why I'm on Earth.
So how much of a thing are you?
I mean, how big is your audience?
Over 800,000 on YouTube.
About 175,000 on X. I don't handle the Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok pages that we have.
We hired some girl to do that.
So I have absolutely no idea how many people are on there.
You see, you're lucky that you've found a subject which doesn't get you booted off YouTube.
I was kicked off YouTube years ago.
For what?
Oh, talking about the death jab?
So, see, here's the thing.
I made a video called Millions Are Being Murdered, The Killer Cure.
Not only has it not been taken down, it's not even demonetized.
How come?
I follow their rules.
I don't believe in what they believe in, but I believe they have the money and power to make what they believe in real in certain circumstances, and so I follow the rules, and they can't touch me.
So you read the small print, and you worked out exactly what you can do.
No, I understand that the people in charge of this planet are Satanists.
They literally believe in the devil.
Yes, they do, yeah.
We agree on that.
Now, personally, I don't think that such a creature actually exists.
I think these people are out of their goddamn minds crazy.
But they have enough power and money that they're making it real in our real life.
And so it can't just be ignored.
And if you know what their rules are, which clearly allies I figured out the rules when I figured out who they are.
I play by the rules, and I'm allowed to do basically whatever I want.
Oh, well, tell me what the rules are.
Rule number one, you have to tell the truth.
You have to tell everyone what you're doing.
This is why we get satanic symbolism everywhere.
This is why we got Event 201 before they came out with the actual COVID and the jab stuff.
This is why they were doing a solar storm exercise the day before last year's major solar storm.
They're telling us what's happening.
It's basically the idea of if you go to a market, it's about karmic retribution.
If you go to a market with a bunch of poison apples, but you put a sign up that says these apples are poisonous, they will kill you.
And somebody buys one from you, eats it and dies.
No karma on you.
That's what they believe.
As long as they tell you what's happening.
They don't have to be super explicit.
They just have to make it so that a keen observer who's thinking about it could connect the dots.
Okay?
And if that is the case, they are absolved of karma.
Rule number two, fair competition.
Now, that's a bad name for it because they're allowed to cheat.
They're allowed to rig the game.
They're allowed to stack the deck.
They are not allowed to make it impossible for the other side to win.
They have to leave us an out.
If they don't, they pay the price for it.
Okay, give me an example.
In theory, if you were willing to give things up, nobody had to take the jab.
If you were willing to lose your job, if you were willing to find a workaround for travel and going to the store and other things like that, you could avoid not taking the jab.
They made it damn near impossible for some people to say no.
But they didn't actually make it impossible for them to say no.
They would have just had to have given up a lot.
So it's about free will again.
Because God gives us free will and they seem to operate by the same rules.
I suppose God created the devil.
Yeah.
So it's things like that.
Right.
Okay, that's rule number two.
Any more rules?
There's lots of them, but I mean, I'm not sure this is a...
Oh, Ben, did you say that?
I can tell you.
There will be lots of people.
Listening to this podcast, this is so cool.
James has found this guy.
Tell me about your gift again.
Hyperthymesia.
Hyperthymesia, who has sussed out the enemy's techniques.
Did you work this stuff out by speed reading lots of books or speed reading the internet or what?
I slow read the occult.
I needed to make sure I understood every aspect of that.
And it was in reading that that I, one, learned the rules, but also realized I don't believe that any of this crap is real.
The parts of it that are real are only because they believe it and they have the power to make it real.
You know what I mean?
So, um, that's what happened when I read the occult.
I learned the rules and I also learned that, shit, I don't believe any of this crap, but they sure do.
And so I better at least You say I read The Occult.
I mean, what are the key books that tell you about this stuff?
I'm trying to think if there's actually a problem with me doing this.
You know what?
There might be.
So let me just say it is not hard to figure out what...
Are you worried about the integrity of your YouTube channel here?
Or are you worried about telling the kids where they can find this stuff?
What's your reluctance?
I have several reluctancies, but the main one is I don't think that everybody should be reading this stuff.
Ah, I'm totally with you, which is which is rather why I was enjoying your your synthesis, because it's actually it's actually really because, look, what's interesting is that you.
I've come.
But I've picked it up from listening to podcasts.
You've got, for example, whistleblowers.
There was a guy who's died now.
He was a bag man, a Dutch guy.
He was very high up, you know, as a sort of bag man for the Illuminati.
I think he was their accountant or something.
And he explained about the karmic responsibility they have, whereby they have to tell you what they're doing.
So it's really interesting hearing it from you.
you've picked this up from their from their key tax right well yes but also There is definitely enough on the internet to figure that one out.
Definitely enough on the internet.
It's just that that's the most important one for us right now.
And they show you in literature as well.
I mean, the classic one is vampires.
I suppose Bram Stoker must have had some connections with the, with these people that, that you have to give the vampire permission before it enters your, I haven't read Dracula.
Is that actually in the book?
But it's certainly in all the vampire movies.
Yes and no.
Yes and no.
It depends what you consider permission.
Is that right?
Permission, yes.
Full 100% conscious awareness informed consent.
No.
Well, we very rarely get the luxury of informed consent, do we?
I mean, that's the problem.
We really don't.
Because the world is a complete deception.
Yeah.
And that's how these people.
So you came to the conclusion that everyone in positions of power is basically subject to the well, they're Satanists and they're subject to these.
I mean, technically, somebody on your local city council is in a position of power.
Like, is every mayor in the world part of something?
I'm pushing it.
Everybody who gets elected to Congress or the Senate or something like that, probably not even at that level.
You don't think all senators are Satanists?
I think I do, probably.
No, there are some in there for sure, but every last one of them, no.
Nancy Pelosi is definitely.
Definitely.
But here's the thing.
The highest table, we don't really get to hear about these people.
On the internet, you hear about the heads of state, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, the Rothschilds, Rockefellers.
If they're being trashed on the internet, they do not sit at the highest table.
In fact, the only name I can think of that would be at the highest table if I had to guess, Queen Beatrix.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I know that the Dutch royalty are in it quite deep.
Yeah.
How old is Queen Beatrix?
I don't know, a billion.
Oh, she's quite old.
Yeah.
Right.
What makes you think of her particularly?
I have to say this carefully.
Individuals who Know for a fact that people like Klaus Schwab aren't in charge.
People like Bill Gates aren't in charge.
The kind of things they have told me about where they're getting their marching orders.
And unfortunately, in addition to Queen Beatrix, there's probably also non-human entities at that highest table as well.
Okay.
Okay.
I couldn't tell you if they're aliens or demons or what.
That's beyond what I understand.
Yeah.
I'd probably go with Demons.
But, yeah, I think...
Because there are various schools of thought on this.
People talk about the Black nobility.
And people talk about the 13 bloodlines families.
But I've never found anyone who can give me, well, presumably because it's quite hard, the definitive story on who's at the top table.
So in your theory, Rothschilds and Rockefellers are kind of lower down.
Correct.
Correct.
But if I had another guess, whoever is the current head of the Pacer family as well?
I've heard that.
Yeah.
I've heard that name.
I went down that rabbit hole.
I started to, and I just had to stop.
Why did you stop?
Because it was too much.
It was a little too much.
Now, granted, it's been like eight years, and I've never gone back to it, but it was a lot.
I think you are the first podcast guest I've had that's actually mentioned that.
Yeah, you can get in trouble for mentioning the Pacer family, but they're not going to do anything to me.
They know they're not allowed to.
Okay, so can you give me a sort of TLDR on them?
No, I don't know what TLDR means.
Too long didn't read.
I can't tell you how many tweets now make more sense to me after hearing that.
There's no way the Pacer family could own and control this much stuff for this long.
And nobody's heard of them.
Virtually nobody's heard of them.
I know several billionaires.
None of them know who the Pacers are.
None.
All they...
I mean, do they even have that surname or do they go under Guy?
They may have changed.
I would have.
I would have.
But how do you go about researching them?
I mean, if they're that shadowy.
I mean, what can you tell me about them?
How many are there?
Lots?
Few?
Tiny number?
At this point, I'm not entirely sure.
I don't exactly keep up, but there are some...
You know who actually did a little something on the Pacers?
It was very superficial.
I mean, it didn't dive that deep.
But that guy on X, Ian Carroll, you know, the tall dude with the muscle?
Yeah, but I don't – I think he's compromised.
I think he fell into a trap with that bracelet thing.
They set so many traps.
They've set so many traps for me.
But do you not think it's possible that the Pacer could be like the Kaiser Soze of conspiracy theorists?
They're fictional.
Fictional family invention.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I think it's possible they don't use that name anymore.
Like I said, Ian Carroll's thing on it, and this was like two years ago that Ian did this.
And let's be honest, all the signs that maybe he's not on the level have been in just the last couple of months.
And I actually think that he's just doing the best he can and he's falling for a lot of traps.
Where are they supposed to have come from, this family?
And where does their money come from?
What's the deal?
The first mention I could find of them was talking about them buying local banks in various places up and down the East Coast.
And this was like decades, over a century ago.
And based on what I read from that time, They were already psychotically rich.
How?
I have no idea.
No idea.
But they're not American.
Not originally, no.
No.
But they're very well integrated here now.
Because, I mean, Payser, you pronounce it Payser, but I probably pronounce it Payser.
Yeah, okay, that's fair.
Well, presumably it's of French origin of some kind.
So do you think they might be Merovingians?
I don't have any evidence one way or another.
Because a lot of these families go back way, way back.
I mean, before Charlemagne, obviously.
To the, well, to the Phoenicians, to the Babylonians, to the Assyrians, to the Egyptians.
Somehow, somehow the bloodlines have...
A little bit, but it's hard to find good information.
Well, yeah.
And there's so much misinformation and disinformation, isn't there?
I don't know which ones to trust.
And like, here's the thing, there's, well, for example, I'm not sitting here saying, for example, But I do know this.
One day after they announced they were taking half of their oil investment and putting it into wind and solar, it was the next day and a half to two days, all of the anti-Rothschilds stuff hit the internet.
It didn't exist on the internet before they did that.
Well, that's good, isn't it?
I mean, I really hate wind and solar more than anything.
Somebody asked me, if I had three wishes, what I would do, do you know what my first one was?
get rid of every wind and solar farm in the world.
I'm not a fan of it either, but the question is why was it, Let me guess, because the peasants don't like wind farms either.
I don't know.
I have no idea where any of this stuff came from.
You know, it's...
Oh, yeah.
There's a war going on up at the top right now that is beyond any war that the rest of us have ever seen or read about.
Do you think they're all basically bad, but they're a different shape?
For every one of them that hates the rest of us, one of them thinks they're Batman.
Okay.
What, do you think any of them might be actual Christians?
Yeah.
Really?
Genuine Christians?
Yep.
I wanted to ask you about your Christianity, because, I mean, you're wearing a cross, and you're a believer, obviously.
Were you always?
To a certain degree, yes, but it wasn't until I learned what happens on this planet and what's about to happen to this planet that I said, okay, no, this is real.
This is real.
It makes it much easier, I think, the prospect of death when you're a Christian.
I really don't care about that too much, but I can tell you that there's no way the Bible is as accurate as it is about what's happening today and what's about to happen to this planet.
There's just no way they accidentally got that right.
Do you think that the stuff you're talking about is all prefigured in the Bible?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, what you mean, tell me, can you go into detail?
Is it like Revelation we're talking about, or what?
Some of it is.
Revelation 16, 8, and the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun, and the power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
I also really like the books that were taken out.
Book of Enoch, chapter 65, line one, and Noah saw the earth turned over and knew its destruction was near.
One of the big things that happens during this is the same thing that is happening to the entire, and it's an entire solar system event right now.
It is not just earth.
All the planets are changing and the sun is changing.
And the same thing from the galaxy that is causing all of this, which will trigger the final moments of earth's magnetic polar reversal, are going to trigger basically a micro nova event from the sun.
Picture a nova in your head, but a miniature version of it.
I don't know what a nova is.
You ever heard of a supernova?
I've heard of a supernova, yeah.
Oasis sang a terrible song about it.
Yeah, they did.
But that was also a little bit of programming because it's going to look like the sun went supernova in the sky, even though all it did was blast off its outer shell.
Do you think that the rulers of the darkness of this world, I mean the Peisers or whoever, do you think they...
They can't control earthquakes.
All that stuff you hear on the internet is complete horseshit.
Complete horseshit.
They can cloud seed and make it rain.
If the rain cloud is there to begin with.
They can't make one out of nowhere.
They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosol spraying up in the stratosphere, but that doesn't leave white lines.
Let's get rid of this cool.
Maybe it's somebody...
Oh, okay, good.
See you in a bit.
Bye.
Sorry, it's my wife.
All right.
Better answer that one.
Yeah, yeah, quite.
So, sorry, they can't control the world.
That's okay.
We are ants.
We're ants.
I've heard the phrase, we're an alien ant farm.
Yeah.
I don't believe in aliens, by the way, but yeah, carry on.
They're not able to do much, to be honest with you.
They'd like to think so.
Or they would like us to think so, put it that way.
But that's just because they don't care if people blame pollution or HAARP.
They don't care if you blame cow farts or them spraying white lines in the sky.
As long as you're not blaming nature, as long as you're blaming humans in some form, they win.
We're...
What, you mean because they've got access to all the underground bunkers and stuff?
No, because their worst nightmare is everybody figuring out what's actually happening right now.
Why is that?
Because they're not ready.
They're not ready.
They're still preparing like crazy.
They've gotten caught off guard.
That's what the modern clown world is.
Alright, so think about it.
20 years ago, unless you were watching Alex Jones, you really had no idea what the hell was going on behind the scenes.
And there's a good reason for that, because they were slow and careful and incremental and infinitely patient.
Doesn't seem like that anymore.
It's like something scared the bejesus out of them and they're like, no, go, go, go, go.
We don't care if they see.
We don't care if everybody knows who we are, that we're satanic, that we're pushing all of this satanic crap, that we're stealing all their money and their resources and their freedom.
They don't even care anymore.
And they are acting so recklessly because they know there's no time for a reckoning.
They are doing all of those things.
Tearing down tradition and spending our tax money like there's no tomorrow because on a certain timeline, there isn't one.
This is going to happen.
It's going to hit its zenith at some point in the 2040s.
But civilization is probably going down before that.
It'll go down the moment the sun throws something at us that our magnetic field can't handle.
And all of a sudden, every power grid, every wire, every car, every computer, every phone, everything is just torched in one day.
Okay.
So all the money that they're stealing off us, and I agree with you, they have accelerated the theft program amazingly.
And they are much more brazen.
Are they doing it?
What's this money for?
So they can buy better concrete for deeper bunkers?
A thousand different things that they're trying to do.
It's bunkers, it's resources, it's land.
But what use is land?
I mean, given that 80% of us are going to be killed, there's going to be loads of land spare.
Yes, but they don't want...
That's all they care about.
They would rather die than not be at the top of the pyramid.
They don't want anybody else around them.
They don't want to compete.
They want as many of us dead as humanly possible.
Sure.
I get that.
I mean, that was what the vaccine was about and all sorts of things are about.
Yes.
And why they start wars and things.
But so are we just supposed to watch them carefully and see where they're settling?
I mean, you know.
No, because here's the thing.
You don't know which ones to look for, because I'll tell you what.
Here's the thing.
Picture you're one of those elites.
Yeah.
You sit down in a room with Mark Zuckerberg.
Do you like this guy?
Do you want him to survive?
No, you don't.
Definitely not.
Where did he build his bunker?
Hawaii.
The dumbest place you could build it.
Just like there are billionaires building in New Zealand and everyone on New Zealand is going to die.
How do you know that?
Because I know exactly what's going to happen to this planet.
Oh, okay.
Well, can you give me a sort of step-by-step?
Well, now we don't want to talk about the occult and the Pacer family.
Now we want to get into this.
Well, you know.
I like to explain.
One of them I've called the New Valley of the Sun.
It is the eastern range of the Rockies, and there are survival zones from Alberta down into Mexico, provided you are avoiding big cities, specifically like Denver, which is the biggest liberal shithole in the entire world.
And that's Denver.
Denver Airport has got these satanic murals, hasn't it?
Yes, it does.
Can you briefly digress?
Tell me about them, because I've never been there.
I don't know too much about them.
I know that it's one of the entry points for the underground system that they have.
But there's also one at Cheyenne Mountain.
There's one actually very close to the Outlet Mall at Castle Rock in between Colorado Springs and Denver.
There's one at Los Alamos.
There's one at Sandia Labs.
Are these for their deep underground military bases and their child trafficking tunnels and stuff?
These are not the child trafficking tunnels, no.
This is the other one.
What's that for?
What's the other one?
What's that for?
They're preparing to survive the disaster.
Oh, okay.
So have they already got these massive underground cities?
They've got a lot of them, but they're not done.
They're not ready.
And something scared the pants off them about a decade ago.
And they were like, okay, we can't afford to be slow and incremental.
We just need to go, go, go, go, go.
Well, and then somebody was like, well, everyone's going to figure out that there's something going on.
And it's like, just give them distractions, dumb them down, do whatever we can, you know.
Just put on a circus for everyone.
Hey, you see that blue-haired thing?
Give them a breast implant and have them go walk around on TV for a little bit.
Just anything they can do.
Yeah.
I'm liking your theory.
It's coherent.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
I like a sort of thought-through theory.
It's when people can't explain their stuff that I start thinking, well, hang on a second.
This is just bollocks.
Do you know anything about these cities?
About the what?
The underground cities.
I know that with the ones they have made public and announced and are acknowledged, they could fit about 25 to 30 million people just in the United States.
Given what they haven't told us about, they might be able to house the entire population of my country in there.
I have absolutely no idea what's going on in other countries, but I know that most of the places where a lot of the good evidence of the last underground civilizations was, like Cappadocia, Derinkuyu, Turkey, places in Iraq and Iran, they have been intentionally destabilized over the last century so we could go handle and control that evidence.
specifically Turkey, Iraq, Iran, places like that, where a lot of the embassy...
You mean the reason that we, the good guys in the West, invaded Iraq and so on, is we found pretexts that we could go in and check out their tunnels and stuff.
Dude, I mean, okay, look, the oil was nice, but that's not why we did it.
There's so much oil here and in Canada and in other friendly places.
We did not go in for oil.
I thought they went in for Gilgamesh's tomb.
I mean, we're talking about the exact same thing then.
Well, tell me – I like Gilgamesh as a I like that I know that things like that were the real reason we went.
And it's not just that one.
There's a hundred other sites they were...
Because it's got all the information and it's probably got good spatial resource for, you know, places that survived the last one.
So your theory is that are these characters from the previous 6,000, you know, before the last Polar Shift?
Yep.
So Gilgamesh lived before more than 6,000 years ago?
That would be my guess, yeah.
Okay.
And so because some Christians think that the earth is only, what, six and a half thousand years old.
But you're one of the Christians who thinks that there are these sort of 6,000 year cycles where God...
I mean, you presumably believe in that this is all God's creation.
They get sort of periodically wiped out and replaced by a sort of new set.
Yep.
The idea?
Yep.
Earth is way older than 6,000 years.
Okay.
And so this is a kind of sort of God's spring cleaning mechanism.
He just sort of, or his renewal mechanism.
Maybe.
Maybe.
It's also, I would not rule out, so look, we can genetically modify, like we've genetically modified plants and animals.
We are creating AI.
Who's to say that something didn't modify God's creation after it was created?
Who's to say we weren't modified by the Anunnaki or something like that, or that Earth wasn't seeded, or that our entire solar system wasn't set up as some kind of an experiment by that creature?
I mean, all you have to do is take a look at the moon and the sun.
The moon and the sun perfectly match up size, distance to create the eclipse.
The sun rotates in 28 days.
The moon goes around the earth in 28 days.
There's a thousand different things like that that should be statistically so near impossible that having more than one in one solar system is preposterous, and we've got hundreds, thousands of them here in the solar system.
This place seems exceptionally engineered.
Are you sure that talking about the Andanarchy is consistent with the Bible?
I am not just a Bible thumper.
I know better than to just believe everything I read, okay?
And I think that there's a lot that's in the Bible that is flat out wrong.
I think that every book they took out of the Bible, I hope the people who took them out are burning in hell right now, okay?
Well, some books are better than others.
I mean, I'm with you on Enoch.
I'm not convinced by some of the Gnostic gods.
I don't know anything about the Book of Noah.
What does that say?
Things like taking out those books, the entire Council of Nicaea, just throw everybody there and what they did in the trash.
And here's the other thing, you have to know the difference between I can assure you the sun is going to fry this planet very soon.
And Revelation 16, 8. And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun, and the power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
I guarantee you the predicate of that sentence is absolutely true, but it has nothing to do with an angel flying up there and pouring some shit on the sun.
No.
You can't just read the Bible for what it is and think you have the slightest clue what the hell the truth is.
That's what most people do, and they're idiots.
They're wrong.
It is kind of a key text.
In Christianity, the Bible.
Well, it is a key text, but that's just because they told it to you.
There's 1.8 exceptionally important books in the basement of the Vatican.
So important, they will kill you if you go try to take one.
But they hand you one book and they're like, this is all you need.
You're good.
Don't ask about all the shit we have in the basement.
Do you know what they have in the Vatican basement?
I don't have a damn clue, but I know that they've got all those books and all those scrolls and all that everything, and they tell you, no, you don't need to see that.
You don't need to know what's in those books.
Just the Bible.
Just the one that we have changed and taken parts out of, and this and that.
Dude, no.
Come on.
But up to your point, Christianity can't be a sort of pick-and-mix religion where you kind of...
The hell it can't.
The hell are you talking about, James?
Why not?
In that case, I'm intrigued to know how you define the boundaries of your Christian faith.
Where do you get your information from?
What is it that makes you a Christian?
If your brain works properly, you know the damn truth when you hear it.
If you study the Council of Nicaea and the books they took out, see what the Ethiopian church uses.
It's not challenging.
This is way easier than astrophysics and calculus.
This is way easier.
I meant the thymus, by the way, not the hypothalamus.
You were thumping your thymus then, I thought.
What attracts you to Christianity?
Which are the bits that you think are true and you can relate to?
Everything that they say is about to happen.
Everything that they talk about in Revelation is about to happen to some degree.
I accept that I know which parts are metaphor, which parts are allegory, and which parts are factual.
Because I can tell the difference between those things, I also know...
And I know that Adam and Eve being kicked out of the Garden of Eden was a completely metaphorical telling of exactly how that went down.
Same with their creation.
How?
Well, they were created by God, surely.
Sure.
But not metaphorically.
I mean, God did literally create...
Were you there?
Well, I don't believe in evolution, so I'm not saying that I definitely know.
Let me tell you this.
I believe for a fact that God created humans in his image and God created this entire universe, but I would have to be out of my damn mind to not believe in evolution.
Why?
Because it's one of the tools he uses in this universe.
I'll tell you one thing.
Microevolution, maybe, but not macroevolution.
Do you believe in dinosaurs?
Let me tell you this.
I won't sit here and let you insult God by trying to imply that he's such a shitty engineer that he has to come and tinker with this and, oh, he sees us sinning?
Oh, now he's going to punish us.
That's a shitty engineer.
That's not any God I know about.
Math, science, geometry, frequency, harmonics, resonance, things like this.
These are the tools.
And they respond to our actions.
They respond to our brainwaves.
They respond in cycles and in patterns.
And this is the kind of thing where you just set it in motion and you let it go and it will do everything that needs to be done.
because it was designed perfectly.
Well, I mean, what you say could theoretically apply to...
Yeah.
Okay.
But the humans, as you say, we're made in God's image, so there's not really much room for evolution there, is there?
Yes, there is.
What, do you think there were sort of early hominids?
Absolutely.
No question about it.
How does that relate to Adam and Eve?
Well, they were sort of Simeons.
So.
They can go out and affect things.
Are you familiar?
No, not necessarily psychic, but here, take a look at the placebo effect.
What's the placebo effect?
You think something that is false, like, oh, I'm taking medicine.
No, it's just a sugar pill.
You think something wrong.
But guess what?
The rules of chemistry, physics, and biology bow to your belief within the system you control.
That's fucking magic, James.
You're a sorcerer.
So we are as gods.
Well, but here's the thing.
Maybe enough sin, maybe enough kind of the wrong kind of electromagnetic waves brings about bad things on the planet.
And it just looks like, hey, we didn't follow God's rules.
And look what this terrible thing that happened.
It's not like God got up out of his seat and was like, oh, I gotta go teach these kids a lesson again.
No, he set it up perfectly so that the universe would react to that stimuli.
Just like he set the universe up such that when the correct energetic blast hit the earth and Cro-Magnons were around, their DNA changed in the exact perfect way to create us.
It's not that he came and was like, you know what, all these animals and fish and birds are cool, but I want to make something better.
No, he set it in motion a long time before that.
And to think that it went down another way is to basically say, wow, God's a shitty engineer.
He's retarded and he didn't know what he wanted to do when he started.
So you think he didn't allow what was...
So you think he kind of went...
No, he knew exactly what was going to happen and he set it in motion to do all of those things.
So he knew that the peacock was going to end up looking like a peacock.
Yeah.
Even before it evolved into a peacock.
Yep.
Why didn't he just go peacock?
Why would he?
Well...
I mean, it's hard to know the mind of God.
So maybe he dislikes the complicated process.
I just...
This part of your theory...
The problem is, Ben, that I find a lot of what you're saying really interesting and coherent, but I don't believe in aliens.
I don't believe in space.
It's fake and gay.
Dude, dude, no.
It's not.
It's not real.
Dude, you are so wrong.
You couldn't be more.
Do you think the Earth is flat?
Yes.
Oh my God, James.
More likely than not.
James, no, it's not.
Explain why it's not.
Have you ever seen a lunar eclipse?
When there's a lunar eclipse, is there a line?
On the moon or is it a sphere like this?
Are you familiar with doing these shadow experiments at different latitudes?
Yeah.
I have, for nine years, offered to pay 100% for any high-altitude balloon experiment that wants to be run by flat earthers.
You control all the data.
Nobody else touches the data but you.
I will just give you all the money.
Nobody has taken me up.
We should do this.
Like Peacons.
Let me tell you something.
When you first figure out that we've been lied to about so many things It changes your worldview and drops your filter.
The next week, you're scared about HAARP.
You're scared about chemtrails.
You think that Nibiru is real.
You think the earth is flat.
Your mind becomes so open that your brain falls out.
The answer is in the middle.
The mainstream, complete horseshit.
The vast majority of the conspiracy world, complete horseshit.
The truth is in the middle.
You mentioned the Anunnaki, who I think are horseshit.
Okay.
I mean, you know, I think the thing we've got in common is we don't know for certain.
No, I do.
I do.
Fair enough.
Well, what I would like to know, because otherwise I'm going to be, because, like, here I am talking to the expert.
Are you the number one expert in the polar shift?
It depends who you ask.
Okay.
Well, who else is there out there?
So you are, basically.
And so all the elites know this, and they're building their underground cities.
What are they going to do?
I mean, do they really want to live in a world where it's just kind of elites?
No, they're going to have millions of slaves.
Are they?
Yeah.
How do we get the slave ticket?
Just to survive.
Or are they going to coroll us into special slave pens?
I don't know.
I can't predict the future like that.
I don't know what's going to happen in terms of that.
When it comes to science and chemistry and physics and what's going to happen to the sun and the earth, I can predict that.
I can't predict what these idiot humans are going to do.
Are you going to survive?
Yeah.
You're confident?
What have you done?
Or is it a secret?
A lot of it is secret.
And it's really only a secret because I want to minimize the number of people I have to kill after the lights go out for showing up at where I'm going.
Have you built an underground lair?
You can tell me that.
No, I can't.
Okay.
But is it around the right lines?
Yeah.
Okay.
So you've got to get a lot of ammo and stuff there, because it's going to be a dog-eat-dog world when you come out there, isn't it?
I think that the world is going to do a pretty good job of killing almost everybody.
Do you want to live in this world that's going to emerge?
Hell yeah.
But you're going to be surrounded by Pezors and Rothschilds.
No, I'm not.
How is that?
Because those 13 families were appointed after the last disaster, which means whoever was in charge before that, they make it.
I don't have any confidence in these people, and I'll tell you what.
If they're really going in those mile-deep dumbs, the deep underground military bases, they're fucked.
They're all going to die.
Why is that?
Because the further you go down, the stronger the electrical induction, which means there's going to be lightning bolts flying inside of their bunkers.
And if they get missed by those lightning bolts, it doesn't matter because they're going to have heated the air in there to 300, 400 degrees.
That's if they're lucky.
What's more likely to happen is an earthquake is going to crush it or magma is going to break through the wall.
Their bunker is now a magma chamber.
And then if they avoid all of that, then when they go back up, they have to hope that there's not an ocean over top of them and there's not hundreds of feet of muck and mud and trees and rubble and fossils and all that other stuff.
What a horrifyingly bad idea going that far underground.
I find this quite consoling, quite cheering, actually, because while the rest of us are dying on the top, they're going to be...
That's cool.
The safest place to be is something like a root cellar or a surface mine.
Like, you only need to be a couple of inches to a couple of feet under the ground.
Do you?
That's what you need.
And, well, in terms of the radiation and other stuff like that and surviving the weather, you also need to not be hit by the great tsunamis that are going to happen.
You didn't mention the tsunamis before, but I suppose I should have guessed there would be tsunamis.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
Are they going to hit anywhere in particular?
Everywhere.
I mean, every coastline will take a hit, yeah.
So you've got to go for the high ground.
Yes.
Hence the Rockies.
Yep.
Do you think that's what Ayn Rand was talking about when she gulps Gulch?
Maybe.
I think that trying to interpret some of the stuff from Ayn Rand is possibly a fool's errand.
Yeah.
Well, the other problem is she's not a great pro stylist.
Which sucks because she's a genius.
It's like, could you figure out a way to communicate this a little better, Ms. Rand, please?
But no, she didn't.
Never did.
No, she didn't.
So, okay, so we're all going to die, but not you.
I just kind of can't be...
That's the problem.
I'm just sort of like...
I mean, they have, haven't they?
They're awful, awful people.
But to go through it all again, I haven't got the, you know, the physical strength or the carpentry skills or the...
So wait a minute.
God sent you here at this time to be part of this event.
You're going to give up?
What?
What's that, James?
Nah.
Nah, boy.
Find your cleats.
Find your pads.
Wear your helmet.
Dust it off.
Cosmic Super Bowl's kicking off soon.
Hope you're ready.
You're not allowed to fucking quit, James.
You're not allowed.
I'm enjoying your pep talk, Ben.
And you know what?
I've got three kids.
I am bringing them into the next stage of birth.
That's good.
Absolutely.
And I'm kind of excited.
I've been ready for this.
I've had this in my head my entire life.
Have you?
Before I had any idea about the science or the math of it, or the reality of it.
I used to have dreams about it.
Did you?
Yeah.
I've meant to ask you, and I almost forgot.
Thank goodness I remembered.
Have you seen the Argentine sci-fi series, what's it called?
The Eternaut No.
Well, it's quite interesting.
It's on Netflix, which I normally don't trust because it was founded by Edward Bernays' Great Nephew.
And it's obviously a propaganda outlet for the evil ones.
But there's a really good thing made by the Argentine version of Netflix.
And it's called The Eternaut.
And it's a big deal for Argentina to have this sci-fi series.
And it's based on this graphic novel, or this comic series, which was written in 1959.
And it's a dystopian apocalypse type thing.
And the the trigger for this apocalyptic event is a polar shift.
And I don't know whether this gels at all with what you know about polar shifts, but the first thing that happens to Buenos Aires anyway, is that this snow appears and it falls everywhere.
And one flake of this snow.
It's something to do with the radiation from the Van Allen belt coming down or something.
No, that's a cute idea.
That's not how it would happen, but that's a really cute idea.
There's going to be major radiation issues for sure.
I will say this.
Any form of water is excellent at neutralization.
Dust, on the other hand, not so good.
Dust carries this radiation.
And people don't realize how much dust there is in our atmosphere.
There's a lot.
Like, a lot.
And that's what carries the radiation.
And the dust is going to come down and get us.
I mean, I don't know if it's going to, like, get you.
I mean, it's not like a serial killer who's, like, targeting you, you know?
And here's what you have to remember.
This happens every couple thousand years.
It has never killed the whole world.
It's never killed the world.
That is reassuring.
So you reckon 20% of us are going to survive, roughly?
I think that somewhere between half a billion to a billion people could survive if we get lucky.
If we're not so lucky, maybe only tens of millions of people will be left.
It makes you wonder, if these kind of satanic elites know this stuff, how do they, by the way, what are their sources?
How come they get to know this stuff and we don't?
Well, first of all, they understand which parts of these books, and not just the Bible, but the stories from the Indian subcontinent, the Vedic texts, the stories from aboriginals in Australia, the ones who are willing to speak on it.
The information is there.
All right, so look.
Are you familiar with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
Yes.
That describes what the sun is going to do, what it's already doing.
Tell me something.
Do you remember the yellow sun?
Yes.
When's the last time you saw her?
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, exactly.
What happened to the yellow sun?
Why has it gone white?
Because Earth's magnetic field is changing, letting in a tiny bit more light, but also changing the lens of the atmosphere through which we view it.
What is the first horseman?
White, wearing a crown.
You go outside and you look up at the sun when it's up there at the top of the sky.
It's bright white and the rays look like a crown.
Yeah, it's horrible.
When the same magnetic click happens that's going to flip Earth's pulse, it's going to shut off a lot of the electrodynamic activity on the surface.
As that drops its luminosity, it's going to start to turn red while stuff accumulates in its atmosphere.
The second horseman is red and steals the civility of the people.
I can assure you when people look up at a red sun, there will be no more civility on this planet.
The third one is black and it carries the scales of justice.
When the sun turns black for about three days, all we're going to see outside of the ring around a black circle is its Van Allen belts because every electromagnetic.
Yes.
You don't get caught outside.
And so as the sun is moving across the sky, you see its Van Allen belts on either side of it tilting like the scales.
And then one of the things But its name, it says on it, is death and hell follows with it.
And what's that?
What?
That's the fourth horseman.
Thought you knew what they were, bro.
No, no, no, but I'm saying, what's the, okay, you've given me the metaphorical thing.
What happens in that fourth stage?
The reason it looks black is because there is a shell of material that is accumulated on the sun because it's not pumping it out with solar wind and ultraviolet light.
And then things click back into gear.
The Earth's magnetic field flips the other way.
It actually happens to all the planets, but when it happens to the sun, the luminosity kicks back on.
The brightness.
The solar wind starts pumping.
And like closing your fist around a firecracker, it blasts off the outer shell like a snake shedding its skin just very, very violently and in all directions.
And through all that material, we're going to see that pale yellow light once again.
The pale horse.
And it'll be nice again.
After the shell hits us, yeah.
So how long is it from the start of the bad stuff to the end of the bad stuff?
It's a week of hell.
Okay.
But that's bearable.
I mean, if I've found where you are, for example, I know I'll be safe there.
Not that I'm not going to go to Colorado, but yeah.
So you've basically got a week to hunker down.
And then you come out with your array of weaponry, presumably.
Sort of bleary-eyed survivors will emerge, like you do on Apocalypse movies.
And try and make sense of this new world.
Something like that, yeah.
Well, that's going to be quite...
It prepares us for this some sort of mass culling, whether it's by zombies or funguses or Yep.
Triffids or...
So it's kind of built into our...
But yeah, it's sort of hardwired into us.
What do you mean you don't believe in DNA?
It's all bollocks, Ben.
It's all made-up shit.
Dude, so look, man.
I applaud your open-mindedness.
Yeah.
I can tell you do not understand physics and chemistry.
I don't.
I think they're just terrible.
Well, you know what?
You can think that they're terrible, and I agree that there have been lies and things hidden.
But also, you can't just...
What's it going to do?
Well, you're going to blame gravity, aren't you?
No, I'm saying it's going to fall.
And just because they lie about where things come from, Just because gravity is not a fundamental force, just because it is a combination of electromagnetic and electrostatic and electrokinetic forces doesn't mean the pen's not going to drop.
I'm not denying observable stuff.
I'm just saying that the theories that go with it are often just bollocks.
Guess what?
When you are me, you understand which ones are bullshit and which ones aren't because you can peer review the world.
Well, that's good.
That's what I am.
I can peer review anything.
And I'm telling you, your mind went so open that your brain fell out.
And you can't just cling to this idea of, oh, they've been lying to us and NASA stands for whatever Australia is.
And everything's a lie.
Everything's a lie.
Everything's a lie.
You are going to break yourself right off.
That is a great line.
My mind felt so open that my brain fell out.
Your mind went so open that your brain fell out.
Yeah, whatever the hell I just said.
Yeah, it was good.
Well, we can get somebody to listen to it and play it back.
I wanted to ask you one more thing, which is, because I've got to have a cup of tea because I'm English, and it's like six o 'clock now, and I'm worried about the cat.
Bloody cat is going out and killing fledglings, and I want to shut it in the house before it, because this is its killing time.
That's what it's supposed to do.
Yeah, I know, but it's a bastard.
I like it, but...
I like the birds.
What I wanted to ask you is, these northern lights that people...
People in the county, the sort of the Midlands county where I lived, were seeing the Aurora Borealis in England.
Now, I was thinking, that's not right.
So I didn't go and look at it.
But why is this happening?
Because Earth's magnetic field is weakening.
So when the sun hits us, it has an outsized impact to what it should be.
A good way of thinking of it is, if you live on the coast of Florida and a hurricane hits, you might expect to come home and find you don't have a roof.
If you are in England and you get a gentle summer breeze, you don't expect your house to fall over.
That's what's happening.
Imagine if cricket players started banging balls into outer space.
That's a big stretch.
Yep, so are Auroras seen in Florida.
But that happened last year.
Right, I see what you mean.
So these are all signs and portents.
Yeah.
And, okay, so Northern Lights coming down further south.
Volcanic activity?
We haven't seen anything yet.
That's going to get bad, but we haven't seen anything yet.
And you're reckoning about 2040?
The 2040s are when everything should hit its peak, but I don't think civilization is going to get there.
We were maybe 50% to 60%...
We probably got about halfway.
I don't even remember it.
You don't remember in May last year when Aurora were seen all over the world?
I remember not seeing it, yes.
I remember that bit.
It was cloudy here.
I didn't see it with my eyes.
But that one was bad.
We came really close.
We came close.
Eventually, as Earth's magnetic field is weakening, because it's weakening as the poles are shifting, every day we get a little more vulnerable and a little more vulnerable, and one day the sun's just going to say, all right, technology, I've had about enough of that.
You guys, let's see how you can make it on natural Earth until I really screw this place up.
Ben, you can probably see me wriggling, which is the time that my bladder is telling me that it is time to bring the show to an end.
I've really enjoyed talking to you.
It's been great.
I mean, this has been one of my more interesting conversations I've had.
And you're definitely one of my more distinctive experiences.
Thank you.
I'm glad we got together.
This was fun.
And I...
It's nice.
It's got trees and sheep.
You've got sheep back there?
Well, see those trees?
Yeah.
Behind them is a hedge, and there are loads of sheep.
Are they yours?
They're not mine.
They belong to a nice farmer called Robert, although he's giving out this year.
There are 17 rams in that field.
Wow.
17 Rams.
And do you know what they do?
So the Rams have to, in the topping season, they have to cover, I think, about 50 ewes.
Is it 50 ewes a day?
They have these enormous dangly bollocks, and they have to use every last drop of their sheep.
Impregnating these ewes.
And they get so knackered.
They ruin their backs.
Their legs are all completely buggered.
Sometimes they just, after that, they die.
I mean, I remember last year, I think one of them died.
That's the way to go right there.
That's the way to go right there.
I don't think, no, do you know what?
I don't think that's the fun part of being a ram.
I think it's the other 11 months where It's recuperation.
All they do is they move around in a kind of loose gang and they go under the apple tree and they rub their necks on the branches and they seek out shade and sometimes they just lie there like that, they're so exhausted and sometimes they get up and they're just enough to eat grass all day and sometimes when they're feeling energetic they jump over the fence or climb over the fence and eat on the other side and yeah.
It's great.
It's great having sheep.
I mean, you know, proxy sheep.
My stepchildren.
Watch out, Bonnie Blue.
Holy cow.
Okay.
Anyway, Ben, tell us where we can find your stuff.
Best place to find me is on YouTube at Space Weather News.
Look for that logo right there.
Or on X, formerly Twitter, at Sun Weatherman.
Thank you again.
You are intense, but you're very entertaining, and I really love this podcast.
And if you have two listeners, viewers, face it, there's nobody who does better podcasts than me.
I mean, all the other podcasts are really a bit shit, and especially Joe Rogan, but even in some of the ones you quite like, but they're not as good as mine.
So put your money where your mouth is and support me on...
Or buy me a coffee if you're really so tight-fisted you can't be asked to subscribe properly.
But I don't know why.
And support my sponsors.
And thank you.
I mean, it really is worth making the effort.
I deserve it.
And it will make you feel better, I think.
Because I think some of you are feeling like, do I really want to keep sponging off this guy forever?
Maybe I do.
But will God punish me?
Well, I don't know.
It's up to God.
But yeah.
Ben, thank you.
It's been great.
It has been great.
It has been great.
Be sure to let me know when you post this.
I want to share this one with the viewers over on my channel as well.
