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Welcome to the Delling Pod, Alex Creel of Thinking Slow.
Now you've got lots of stuff that you want to tell me about the Trump election, which some of our people are getting very excited about, because obviously...
They're glad to be rid of the men wearing the Joe Biden mask and they're glad that Kamala didn't get in and they think that Donald Trump is a white hat.
He makes all the right noises and he's going to save the world.
I think it's quite good that there are people like you out there who are doing the deep drilling And looking at the data and looking at the facts and showing that it ain't necessarily so.
And you've been doing some stuff about...
I think everyone down the rabbit hole agrees that the 2020 election was a steal.
It was obvious that Trump should have won it and didn't.
And for whatever reason...
It had been decided by the powers that be that there would be this interim period where the Biden shell would be occupying the Oval Office and then it was clearly written that Trump should get back in.
So where should we start?
Do you want to tell me more about the start of the election?
Yeah, we could do 2020. The 2020, I agree, I think we all had this impression that something was very wrong.
But for me, I was trying to put a number to it.
The reason I did it is because 2024 came out and you saw that 7.3 million vote drop from Biden to Kamala Harris.
And that was like, whoa.
And the obvious conclusion from that was those 7.3 million votes never really existed.
And it's the scale of that non-existing vote that really struck me.
Because that is then talking to an operation that's been approved at quite a high level because that's a huge number.
And then I started looking at some very, very simple historic numbers.
So what happened in 2015?
What happened in 2020 is you had 21 million more votes than 2016. And if you look at that on the chart, that is an increase in the number of votes that's absolutely miles outside anything you've ever seen before.
On average, you get about a 5 million net increase between one election and the other.
So when you put it on a chart and you see one bar is 21 million votes more, and it hits then the highest ever participation turnout level we've seen since 1900. And those were like two amazing facts that I fell off my chair because I didn't really know that.
Do you remember we all talked about these propensity to vote Republican versus how many votes Trump got and those curves that went up last minute at three in the morning, which were valid.
But nobody said anything as simple as, like, it cannot be that we've just had the highest turnout since 1900 on this election.
You know, is Biden that much more interesting than Nixon, than Roosevelt, than Reagan and all the others?
It's ludicrous, isn't it?
Well, I suppose that's what the analysts in the mainstream media would claim and did claim that somehow people were, that the Democrat base was so fired up about the iniquity that the Democrat base was so fired up about the iniquity of Donald Trump and they were so determined that this man should be booted out that they turned up in their
They were really inspired by this drooling, incontinent man with the son with the laptop.
And they just had to get him into the White House.
You're suggesting that's probably not the case.
It's absolute nonsense.
And the probability of having 21 million extra votes was about 2 or 3% based on the average and the standard deviation of the historic time series.
So the probability of that event was tiny.
But I think what 2024 for me was like, okay, well now we know it was nonsense because you can't have a very low probability event that looks very suspicious that then it reverses at the next election.
That was...
That cannot be explained.
And then I started looking at other factors that we know about.
And of course, the main one being a massive exodus of people from Democrat states.
So the next thing you're bringing us to believe, as you said, you know, people rushed out in huge numbers to elect a guy who's sort of barely compus mentis.
We also have to believe that there were physical movements of hundreds of thousands of people out of Democrat states, California, New York, But
one did read...
An awful lot of articles describing that movement of people out of so-called blue states into red states.
And the argument advanced at the time was that Inevitably, when you've got a blue governor in charge and a blue administration, what you tend to find is the sort of decline of public services, that you've got more people leeching off the state.
It's harder for entrepreneurs to make a living.
So they naturally, even liberals, naturally gravitate towards red states like Texas and Florida.
And they then vote for the very thing that destroyed the states they've left.
You're saying that is not a plausible analysis?
No, because net-to-net, you've still got 15 million more votes for Biden than Hillary Clinton in 2020. You still have 15 million more votes, despite the fact that in that same period, you've got people flooding it with their feet.
So the voting with their feet goes one way, but the voting with their hands goes completely the opposite way.
I mean, literally the opposite way.
If you put it on a chart, you can see it's totally opposite.
I don't quite understand.
Explain.
Well, voting with your feet, you're leaving.
So, as you said, physically, on balance, net 400,000 people leave, for example, California in one year, roughly the year of the election.
And then in that election year, Biden's still getting an extra, I don't remember how many million, but an extra, let's say, would be roughly about 7 million votes.
It doesn't make any sense.
You can't reconcile those things.
Where do you think those votes came from?
Were they generated on the election machines or what?
I don't know the answer.
And I know the people that speculated about the machines got themselves in pretty hot water on litigation and all the rest of it.
So we don't know is the answer.
But I think the important thing is the scale of it is so big.
It must have been approved at a fairly high level.
I agree with you that it was an organized switch.
I'm just thinking about a theory.
The theory could be that last minute they decided they couldn't control Trump to the extent that they needed to control him.
He could have been throwing his weight around because he knows he had the popular vote.
And they just said, okay, then, you know, screw you, we'll flick the switch, and that's the end of it.
So, you don't think that Trump was in on this?
Because, I mean, I guess I'm more cynical than you.
I think that these things were...
There was an incident, I've mentioned this before, where in the aftermath of the What to me was a very surprising election result and you know I'd put money on Trump to win because it was obvious on the campaign trail that he had more of the popular vote.
But I remember in the aftermath when I was still naive enough to imagine that the state courts and then the Supreme Court would sort this out, sort out this injustice.
They'd investigate and there were all those recounts and so on.
And I thought justice was going to be restored.
And I remember Trump giving a...
Impromptu press conference at a Texas airbase, I think it was, somewhere in Texas anyway, and he said something like, it's okay, I'm going to go away for some time, but I'm coming back.
He was heavy hinting that there was this plan afoot that he was going to...
Yeah.
Maybe a deal had been struck that he wasn't going to fight this thing anymore and he was asking his base not to fight this thing anymore because it was all okay.
Do you not think that he was in on it?
I think that was the deal for this election.
think between 2020 and now that they obviously did the deal and said okay you can have another bite at the cherry but you absolutely do as you're told and he went for that that was the deal for 2024 but I do think back then they actually flicked that switch because they couldn't agree something with him and then in the immediate aftermath he did actually make a couple of bad comments in the night when he saw those things shooting up at three in the morning he He goes, this is a disgrace.
This has been stolen.
He did actually call it out, and it wasn't for very long.
But it was more or less a day or so that he was really calling out this.
He said something like, well, this is a scandal and you've been robbed or something.
So actually, on the heat of the moment that night, he realized...
These guys had done them in, and he was unhappy about it.
But soon after that, there must have been a deal said, you know, you can have one more go at this, but you do as you're told.
Right.
But...
I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong because we can only speculate, but my feeling on Trump is that he never has been the thing that he's sold us as being.
He sells himself as this kind of maverick.
figure who is the enemy of what we might call the swamp, as he called it.
In his first term of office, he did nothing but appoint the swamp into positions of power in his administration.
So it's not like Trump was really doing great stuff And got dramatically derailed because he was doing too much good stuff.
It was because he was always a creature of the deep state that he affected to despise.
Yeah, I'm not sure about that.
I think the last really independent thing he did was to recommend this hydroxychloroquine or whatever it is.
He did go out and say that and that was completely off script.
And I think he was given obviously a talking to after that and went back into the vaccine narrative and never ever said anything about alternative treatments ever again.
Because if you look around the world, people that said something about alternative treatments, leaders of various African countries who didn't play ball, suddenly got themselves in big trouble.
And he did actually say, for a day or so, he sort of called out hydroxychloroquine, whichever one it is.
So that was completely independent and completely off script.
And I don't think he's done anything that independent since then.
In terms of putting those people in power, I mean, the theory is, isn't it, that the Department of State is decided by the Council for Foreign Relations.
No president ever has appointed the person they want for that position.
That is really a deep state position.
I don't remember which one it was, but there was this whole story, whether it was Carter or somebody, who said, I'm never, ever going to work with this guy, and that was the guy who ended up as the Secretary of State.
So it's kind of clear that that position was imposed from some other way.
So I think state is reserved for the deep state, really.
Okay.
Well, so I sense that there is a point at least we can agree on, which is that Trump is not our saviour.
No.
You're attributing more good faith to him than I am.
But if, as you say, he was got at after hydroxychloroquine and didn't say anything bad about the death jab, he was still responsible for Operation Warp Speed, which killed more fighting-age Americans Well, that in itself is a pretty big deal.
You've got the people who can no longer work because of vaccine injuries, and he's not said anything to indicate that he regrets this extraordinary war on his own people.
Conducted by Big Pharma and the military industrial complex because the Big Pharma is basically a branch of the military.
So he ain't our friend.
He's definitely not our saviour now.
You know, one thing we definitely agree on is that this term now has been completely agreed.
He's agreed to absolutely do what he needs to do.
And I'm also wondering on your theory, it could well be correct.
I wonder if that was the whole hand of God, you know, magic mist assassination attempt was to actually get that base back on board because there were those rallies.
You know, as soon as he mentioned the word vaccine, his whole base was booing and, you know, expressing disapproval and whether they had to do the hand of God intervention.
And they all played that talking point from that point.
Oh, God has intervened to make sure I can run again, whether they had to do that to get those guys back on board.
It's incredibly cynical.
I get a lot of stick from people who believe that Trump is a white hat.
They get particularly incensed when I suggest that the assassination attempts were faked.
But there's so much evidence to indicate that it was, I mean, the idea that this loser kid could climb onto a flat roof unobserved by the idea that this loser kid could climb onto a flat roof unobserved I mean, they're pretty trigger-happy.
They'd have taken them out in a trice.
You wouldn't have had...
Members of the public, if they were members of the public, at this rally going, there's a guy on the roof.
What are you going to do about it?
Oh, is there?
Say the guy goes with the sniper sights on every high building surrounding the rally.
And nonsense like the bullet captured in flight, in mid-air.
I've seen Olay video.
I think I know what you're talking about.
But not just that, but...
But captured in mid-air by a photographer who was also there on 9-11, a sort of a name photographer, a name creature of the mainstream media establishment who was there to capture this.
And the framing of the photographs, the sky, which by the way changed according to which day it was filmed on, whether it was filmed on the rehearsal day or the actual day when the weather changed.
All these details.
And the Trump supporters are going, don't you realise a guy died?
A guy lost...
Well, okay.
So a firefighter was allegedly killed.
Well...
We don't know whether he was a firefighter or not, whether he was real.
And if he was real, well, on 9-11 they killed 3,000 people.
The Bush administration murdered 3,000 Americans for that particular psyop.
So what's one life?
They're not bothered about this kind of thing.
Trump would definitely have been in on the fake assassination.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, and as I said, I kind of never really went too far down there, but in retrospect now, it could have been to get the base back on board, and it was the excuse for the Liberals to flip.
I've been listening to these Liberals saying, well, after his heroic response, we just had to go and vote for him.
So all the deep state, big tech, multi-millionaires, billionaires who...
Voted heroist at that point said, well, we flipped when we saw what a hero he was, and therefore we had to go right from, although we've just been voting four years of cultural Marxism, we just had to flip over to complete opposite side of the fence because of that heroism.
And also not just heroism, but because God is clearly on his side, because if he hadn't turned his head at exactly the right moment, And he was looking at a child of immigration.
If he hadn't been worried about immigration, then that's what saved him.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now we get to the next SIOP, which I'm really pleased about.
I can unpack for you the next dose of copium that I'm so disappointed.
So many people have gone for this Department of Government Efficiency.
It's called DOGE. Is it?
Yeah, D-O-G-E. Now it gets more interesting.
I've heard that word before.
I may have been invested in it.
I tell you, this is the thing.
When I saw this announcement of D-O-G-E, it came from a sock puppet account called D-O-G-E Designer.
I thought, that's interesting.
When was that opened up?
And that was opened up in June 2021. So three years ago, a Musk sort of sock puppet account called Dodge Designer is created.
And then completely out of the blue...
Trump just wakes up one day and creates Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, and now the internet, the whole of Twitter is flooded with fake traffic and, you know, let's go DOGE, pictures of Musk in sunglasses and machine guns and flamethrowers and whatever else.
You think, well, hang on a minute, they created the account Dodge Designer that has no, it does nothing other than send out Musk, you know, isn't Musk great?
And then Musk replies to that saying, yeah, I'm great.
Or, you know, Twitter is now number one in Spain.
Isn't that exciting?
And Musk will reply, yeah, that's exciting.
There's been 350 roughly of those interactions.
So it's completely fake.
But the name, they've even called it Dodge Designer.
And it was set up three and a half years ago.
Okay.
So how does that...
Actually, before we go on, it's interesting that word doge.
Yeah.
Because you know what a doge was.
It's the Italian...
Is it the Italian prince?
Well, yeah.
It's...
The ruler of Venice was called the doge.
And Venice was a hotbed of deep state corruption.
I mean, it ran the world, essentially.
Just in the same way that centuries before, Rome ran the world.
So all the families, after the fall of the Western Empire, The ancient families gravitated towards the marshes of Venice and built a new Rome.
And it was, I mean, just everything that we lament about the world today.
Was going on in Venice, which controlled the British government of the time.
It sort of infiltrated, it put its agents into British politics and changed prime ministers and so on.
So, they chose that name knowingly.
Yeah, okay.
So, idiots think it's like dog.
Dog.
It's like a comedy.
Dog with a knee.
It wasn't the face of Doge a comedy dog.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm going to check this.
There's a Ukrainian dog angle to this as well.
They've got a mascot, which is another one of those Ukrainian dogs, and that seems to be turning up in various memes.
But, you know, one of the key things about it is it's nothing.
It literally is nothing, quite apart from the fake traffic.
So that DOGE designer that does nothing but little tweets about how well X is doing somewhere or isn't Musk clever, that thing has a million followers.
And, of course, as you and I would know, you just scroll through a couple.
It's all total BS.
So it's part of the whole psyop.
It's part of the whole manipulation of everyone on Twitter that they're getting bombarded with DOGE as the business and pictures of Musk, you know, sort of kicking ass of the bureaucracy industry.
And that's the hopium.
They're brainwashing everybody on Twitter into this hopium state.
I'm looking at this picture now of DOGE. Yeah, it has got this smiling dog.
On the front.
And it says, the Wikipedia entry says, obviously this is what they want you to think.
Dogecoin is a cryptocurrency created by software engineers Billy Marcus and Jackson Palmer, who decided to create a payment system as a joke, making fun of the wild speculation in cryptocurrencies at the time.
And in late...
What looks like late 2021, it went...
Well, it went up almost...
Well, it's gone up 15,326% in the last five years.
It's spiked in late 2021. It's heading towards...
Post-Trump, it's heading towards its...
All-time high, again.
Even though it's just a kind of...
It's a meme coin.
And I think we should be suspicious of meme coins.
I don't think that Doge Designer is...
Other than stealing the name, I don't think it's connected.
Because if you look at Doge Designer, it just goes to a wallet.
There's nothing in a webpage.
I think it's the same name.
I don't think it's the same people.
Because the Doge Designer is just the Musk sock puppet account.
But are we talking about the same thing?
Dogecoin is the crypto meme coin?
Yeah, but I don't think there's a link between that Twitter account Doge Designer and that coin other than they use the same name.
Right.
So you don't think that Musk has got anything to do with the...
With the cryptocurrency.
No, I know there is a cryptocurrency with those two guys that you mentioned who set it up.
I think that's a separate thing with the same name.
Oh, okay.
Fine.
Anyway, maybe I've added more conspiracy to the mix.
But tell me more about the Doge then.
Well, the other thing is, it's not a department, which is the first interesting thing about the Department of Government Efficiency.
It's not a department.
It's not even in the government.
It's going to have no legal powers.
Essentially, at the end of the day, it's just a...
Well, it's not going to exist, I think, at the end of the day.
It's a complete smoke and mirrors...
Whoopium project from the Mag guys who are obviously unhappy about Rubio and the other guy for Secretary of Defense and seeing JFK baited with RFK. They've been baited with RFK and then he's been switched out.
So they were already unhappy and now they're latching on to this.
You know, Department of Government Efficiency is like, well, we won anyway.
You know, we've just been shafted royally, but we've got our Department of Government Efficiency with our hero, Musk, running it.
And it's a complete psyop as far as I can see because, as I said, It's not even a department.
It won't be in the government.
It's maybe a talking shop.
Now, there's another big thing in this.
The final angle of this is, when you really start to think about it, the idea that these oligarchs are going to go in and cut government spending is slightly nuts because Musk is getting $20 billion from the federal government for SpaceX.
And Palantir is also getting 1.2 billion from different governments around the world, but it just aggregates them into a single number of government, which it calls 1.2 billion.
But a lot of that's US government.
And the idea they're going to go and slash government money when their beneficiaries of government money doesn't look that credible is And Palantir's share prices just exploded as soon as these guys got in.
So somebody somewhere thinks it's gone up like nearly 50% in a few days.
So someone thinks that this is going to be good for Palantir, which means more money, more government money.
And of course, these guys are in power essentially through J.D. Vance.
So that's the real play.
Well, yes.
I mean, Whitney Webb has been very good on this.
And she was talking about, in the run-up to the election, she was giving a warning to Trump, Trump dreamers, starry-eyed believers that he was going to be the saviour.
She was saying, well, hang on a second, look at his VP choice, that J.D. Vance is...
Intimately bound with these companies, Palantir being the main one, which are about surveillance of, well, American citizens apart from anything else.
I mean, am I right in thinking that Palantir is basically sort of spyware, if you like, that enables you to analyze people's internet accounts and look up for anything that is indicative of any kind of criticism of the system.
Yeah.
I mean, it's very far advanced AI that does exactly what you say.
I mean, I don't know more than that.
I'm going to look more carefully at it.
But the other thing, of course, the big picture is, of course, Musk and X. X will morph into that 060606 system, the Microsoft patented system.
There's a Microsoft patent and the patent number ends 060606 and the basis of that system is there's a centralized server, a person sitting by a computer, the person at the computer has either wearables or an implant that measures the person's brain waves,
heart rate, body temperature, And the computer assigns a task to that person, and through the monitoring of the brainwaves, heart rate, and body temperature, the computer can assess whether the person has performed the task.
And if they have performed the task, they get an automatic transfer of cryptocurrency.
So, I mean, to me, that is the beast system.
And as soon as I saw this, I did a video about it.
It's now three years ago, called Digital Health.
That is the B system.
And if you look at Twitter, really, more or less, the only thing missing are the wearables or the implants, which is, of course, Musk's big thing is implants.
So that's the way Twitter is going to emerge.
And, you know, they're trying to get people on the hook of that you can earn money, sit here and earn money, which turns out to be like $2 or $3 after a month or something.
But it's just getting people sucked into that system all the time.
It's the new call center.
Yeah, it's the new...
And I think that's what all that space is about, keeping people on that thing for hours on end, doing nothing.
What, um...
What, um...
What sort of jobs are people doing to earn their little dog biscuits?
Well, you can do a subscriber thing on Twitter.
Yeah, you can do a subscriber thing.
So I know someone was complaining about it.
They got 230,000 followers, and they earned like $2 or something from the subscription.
It's like revenue share.
Right, but tell me more about this monitoring of your...
So for it to work you've got to have an implant, is that right?
Yeah.
Well, the patent says you can have one or the other.
And I think, you know, in reality, they want the implant.
They don't want the wearables.
But it says it's a patent system that will cover one or the other.
So it covers both options.
Right.
Yeah, I'm surprised you haven't seen it.
It's a real document.
And I looked at it years ago.
And that's what it is.
It's a patent for that system.
And it is the system, really.
Yes.
So, okay, just say you go the light route and you just have the wearables.
So what are you doing?
Well, it doesn't specify.
The patent is only talking about the different components in the system.
It doesn't go into anything more than that.
It's a sort of skeleton in a way, patent.
It just talks about the process and saying we're patenting this process.
And the important bit of the process is the link between your wearables or your implants and the cryptocurrency.
That's the link.
So, you know, when it's implemented, you'll be sitting, let's say, in your box.
You will never leave.
The computer will assign you your task and you will automatically get this money if you've done it.
So you will be managed by the server and by the computer and by the wearables.
You'll never see another person.
Do you watch TV? At all?
No.
No.
I think tasks will be empty.
They'll just get you to do catch-puzz all day or something like that.
I'm about to tell you something.
As you know, most, if not all, TV is programming, which is why it's called programming.
And I watched this...
Apple Plus TV series the other day, a sort of dystopian, sort of sci-fi-ish series, called Severance.
And the shtick is that you can choose to have your...
Personality severed so that your home self is completely separate from your work self.
So you can send a version of you.
You can go to the office every day and during the period when you clock in at work to the period where you leave, you have no knowledge or recollection of your life outside work world.
And you do this voluntarily for whatever reason.
Maybe you think that work is so boring, you just don't want to know about it, and you just want to have a kind of completely separate domestic life.
And when they get to this office, they spend their time, our heroes spend their time doing these incredibly mundane tasks.
They're looking at these numbers, swimming across the screen, And somehow they start developing this sense of which numbers are bad numbers, and they sort of isolate these numbers and put them in the bin.
And then at the end of the day, their department is graded according to...
How many, how successfully, what percentage of their tasks they have performed.
So I think that is preparing us through the medium of dystopian sci-fi semi-comedy drama for the world to come.
Yeah, well, I mean, the patent is a real hard document, and I'm going to write something today about this, about the whole Department of Government Efficiency being a total PSYOP, and I'm putting in a link to that.
I'm Patent because it's like you've got to see the endgame, guys.
Once you get the endgame, you cannot possibly for one second think Musk is your friend.
I mean, you can ignore the fact that he's wearing Satan armor.
You can ignore the fact that he's trying to drill things.
Baphomet.
Baphomet on the front.
You can ignore all that if you really must ignore that.
Okay, you can ignore that.
You can ignore the fact...
Twitter is just a massive brainwashing operation.
It's ginormous.
It's all fake.
Ignore all that, but at least take this, and once you accept this, then you get where this is all heading, and then it can't be your savior.
There's one other big thing about this election, which has never really been mentioned anywhere.
The reason also for the Trump flip, the real reason for the Trump flip, was because this was definitely happening, was Biden's administration was going too far left.
It was getting really communist, and they had decided to introduce a 25% capital gains tax on accrued capital gains, not cashed out earned, but accrued.
So these venture capital guys were going to be given bills for accrued capital gains, and they said, sod that.
And although they'd been supporting all the workery all this time, it sounds like they couldn't convince the Biden guys, the Marxists in there, to drop that.
And that's the real reason why they flipped Trump.
I think that was a deal breaker, that 25% accrued capital gains.
But to me, this is all theatre.
It's not real.
They say these things.
I don't believe that, oh, we'd have been quite happy with more Biden stroke Kamala Harris, but it turned out that they went way more left than we could ever have imagined.
I don't believe that.
This is all just theatre.
Yeah.
Well, the only reason I could really believe it is because it's not really mentioned anywhere.
I just dug it up a few days ago and I was like, I haven't heard this mentioned anywhere on the 10,000 hours of election coverage.
Nobody has ever mentioned this capital gains tax on accrued earnings.
I've never heard of it.
I agree.
So it could well be a real thing that it's just not spoken about.
It's certainly true that they drop these ideas in as a kind of fishing expedition to see how much of a response there is.
And B, to sow in the public imagination.
Now that idea is there.
The idea that unrealized capital gains are now potentially fair game for any government.
And it wouldn't surprise me if, not in America, but some other experimental state under a left-wing regime...
They try out that policy.
Because after all, the end goal is you'll own nothing and be happy.
So everything they are doing is designed to make sure that we don't own anything.
Even those who think they're being clever by investing in gold or...
Yeah.
They've got it all covered.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I agree with that.
I agree for sure.
Just briefly, before we go back to American...
I quite like your research on Twitter, because even though you recognise that Twitter or X is the enemy, it's also a useful way of seeing what the enemy are up to, isn't it?
Seeing which figures are promoted.
Yes, very useful.
Which narratives.
Very useful, yeah.
Now, at the time of recording, I've noticed that Much play is being made of Telegraph journalist Alison Pearson.
Having a knock on her door on Remembrance Sunday by the police who say, I'm sorry, Miss Pearson, but we have to...
You have been reported...
You are a victim of a...
You are the perpetrator of a non-crime incident.
And you've said something on Twitter a year ago.
And we are not allowed to tell you what that tweet says, which tweet it was, but somebody has complained and we are hereby designating that person.
The victim.
Yeah.
Anyway, so then you've got people like Toby Young's Free Speech Union.
She was a personal bankrupt maybe four or five years ago.
So you have to wonder how was she rehabilitated and ending up as a friend, you know, the director of Friends of Israel Limited.
Was she?
I didn't know about the bankrupt thing.
I mean, I always feel awkward talking about people's financial affairs.
Well, I like it as well a bit, but I have the same questions as you.
It's like, why is something like this all of a sudden a thing?
And it was a while ago.
And with all these people, you like them.
They say so many things that you all agree on.
And it's very awkward and unpleasant to bring up something that...
Uncomfortable like that.
You're not going to get me sued.
This is all in the public domain, is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's another way I can find that.
Oh, okay.
Okay, fine.
But yes, you're right.
The directorship of Friends of Israel is a question mark, given where we are with global politics right now.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, I think it's clear to most of us that one of Trump's tasks is to bring us to the hot stage of World War Three in the Middle East, probably with, well, almost certainly with Iran.
Yeah.
And that hence the sort of the domestic agenda of newspapers going on about antisemitism and the stories about Jews being persecuted in Amsterdam and this is all being ramped up to create this sense that Evil Muslims are out to kill us and we've got to kill them first, kind of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm just waiting for the pictures of the guys in Iran having babies for breakfast and all of that and raping and whoever.
That will come.
Yeah, the state is still early, I guess.
But, so, do you share my...
Well, I'm guessing the answer's yet, but do you share my suspicions of...
Prior to the fake pandemic, There were lots of people that I would have considered my natural allies,
and Alison Pearson would definitely have been one, so would Toby Young, you know, people who sort of believed in Britain and its civilising influence on the world, and the sanctity of the State of Israel, that, you know, this...
This beacon of democracy surrounded by these terrible corrupt Islamofascist dictatorships or basket case economies and so on, giving medical aid to wounded Arabs and all this.
Oh yes, and of course the war on woke.
And then during the pandemic, these people...
Most of them, Toby certainly, Alison certainly, they made a very big deal of fighting lockdown.
Lockdown was bad, okay?
But they never went to the next step of saying, and by the way, the kill shots are really bad too.
Don't take one.
They're going to kill people.
Now, that for me is a demonstration of A heavy hint that these people might be, at best, gatekeepers for a particular narrative.
That they are not heroic, independent, conservative journalists fighting the corner of freedom.
So when I see all the usual suspects, Toby and Alison and their...
Laura Dodsworth, who are the others?
You know, all directors of Friends of Israel Limited.
Yeah, that was weird.
And the whole...
This character, Bernie Spofforth, Spofforth, The one who, the alleged conservative councillor's husband, wife, who was arrested for...
I think it's a separate one, but she was, it was the same story.
The wife of the councillor was, she's in prison, I think, is she not?
But Spoforth was arrested and not charged.
And arrested, held and not charged.
Same story, though, for tweeting, for bad tweets.
But who are these people?
Because how did she acquire such a huge Twitter following when she was completely unknown?
She was in the initial group of people I looked at with James Melville.
It's all nonsense, complete nonsense.
It's just orders of magnitude.
It's not even ten times...
It's a thousand times that her traffic levels are a thousand times the levels I was looking at for you and Peter Hitchens and Bonafide people.
The difference is so insane that it's not very credible.
How do you, just remind people, how do you test this?
Well, it's pretty straightforward, really.
Just look at the average number of, let's say, likes or retweets per tweet, and I don't remember the exact numbers, but let's say I was getting, back then when I did it, I was getting an average of 1,500 or something for her.
I could get an average of 40 for Pete Hitchens, or I could get an average of like 60 or 100 for you.
For me, it was 10. And I'm just saying, look, guys, retweeting old Daily Mail articles cannot be a thousand times more interesting than the result of Peter Hitchens' deep dive article on the grit and faith or something.
It just doesn't stack up.
Because they never produce anything.
It's just a retweet of some garbage from a year ago, Daily Mail, you know, story about something.
There's no content.
So what we know as people who produce content that it just doesn't add up to the old Daily Mail articles.
It's going to be a thousand times more interesting.
So do you think that it might be that...
Okay, so we've got...
The world's most famous conspiracy theorist with the biggest reach is Alex Jones.
And Alex Jones is a deep state asset, isn't he?
I'm very close to saying yes on that.
I'm like 98% of the way.
Well, he used to be that comedian.
Bill Hicks, yeah.
Yeah, he used to be Bill Hicks.
I think there's no question that...
Yeah.
Bill Hicks disappeared off the scene.
Allegedly, he died.
And then he...
Then this sort of gruff voice character...
I mean, what it must do to his voice, putting on the Alex Jones voice, when he never used to speak in that register before.
It must have been...
It's a bit like Adele.
I mean, what she must have done to her vocal cords, that sort of gravelly kind of thing, you mess up your throat after a while.
So I suppose that's the price you paid for being...
So Alex Jones famously lost a billion dollar lawsuit brought against him for daring to suggest that Heaven knows why, that Sandy Hook was fake.
I mean, the fact that the school had been closed for two years when this seems not to have registered in the media.
But the purpose of those figures, those eye-watering figures, was to send a signal out to people elsewhere who wanted to question any form of mainstream narrative.
If you do this, you will be sued within an inch of your life, like Alex Jones was.
And I'm wondering whether this put the purpose of the visit by the Rossers to Alison Pearson.
It's designed to frighten everyone else.
Yeah, I would say so.
I mean, on the Bernie Spoforth case, I could say for sure that was the reason, because, as you said, the profile was not authentic.
And the arrest was kind of, it didn't quite make sense within that Online Safety Act.
It was just not quite there for an offence, I don't think, just to say, oh, this guy was Ali's somebody and just came on a boat from somewhere.
That's not enough for the Online Safety Act.
It's kind of close but no cigar.
There was no sort of incitement to do anything.
So that looked like a setup to send the message to everybody else.
You better not be tweeting, essentially, things that might be controversial.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Have you been engaging at all with the Richard D. Hall case?
Not especially.
I mean, I just took Mary's message, which is like, this guy has not been punished for saying something.
He's been punished for the harassment of the people.
And so don't mix them up, because that's what they want.
They want people to be confused and assume, oh, if I say something wrong, I could be at the wrong end of hundreds of thousands of legal fees and what have you.
But it's not that easy.
Like, don't sit in the bush and take pictures of a young girl.
The kid you should avoid.
Yes.
But the worst one of all is the Tommy Robinson one.
Tommy Robinson, I wrote about this, that is a site now, like all those Ezra Levan and all the Tommy fan club, they keep every single day saying, Tommy arrested for journalism, Tommy arrested for showing a documentary, Tommy arrested for telling the truth, no, sorry, Tommy was arrested for breaching...
On ten occasions, a court injunction, not turning up to court, not filing papers.
That's what he was arrested for.
And because the injunction was about libel, and I think that was also a big message for me for that whole incident.
He had this incident with two lads scrapping in school.
That was the Almond Zee school incident.
I don't remember when it was now, a few years ago.
But what was interesting was Piers Morgan took that and It was a white lad pouring water over a Syrian lad in a school playground incident that was not newsworthy in any way, but it was made newsworthy because it became a racist, white racist, attacking innocent Syrian.
And that was at the time when Piers Morgan was on his...
Black Lives Matter.
George Floyd was an angel.
You remember he was trolling us for two years or so with systemic racism and cultural Marxism.
And he labeled the white lad a racist thug.
I think that was roughly his words about the white guy.
And then what Tommy then did was rather than say, no, the white guy is not a racist.
It's actually, there's no racism involved in this incident, which was the truth.
He then goes and says, well, actually, the Syrian lad was a child-hitting thug on that side.
So what they've done is they've actually, here's the truth.
This guy's gone over here.
That guy's gone over there.
And of course, he's polarised the Polarize the issue, and that's what they want.
They want everything polarized and truth to be abandoned.
And then, of course, he then builds the narrative, oh, I've been arrested for journalism, which is absolute nonsense.
He's been arrested for libeling the Syrian chap.
And then he's been arrested because he keeps doing it.
And he's doing it even now, even though the injunction was from July 2021.
Three years later, he still got that film up.
And they said, don't take the film down.
They said, cut the little pieces out where you've libeled him.
It's like, these are the specific things that are libelous.
So he could have edited that film.
He could have cut maybe, what, five minutes, six minutes out, but he hasn't done it.
Yeah.
It's been a while since...
My colours were nailed to Tommy Robinson's mask.
I mean, in the early days, I had him on the podcast a lot.
And he comes across, in person, he's very likeable.
I like him as well.
Yeah, and seems honest.
I suppose these people get suborned by their sponsors, don't they?
Yeah.
Carry on what you're doing, Tommy, but just ramp up this.
Throw in a few Israel flags, yeah.
Yeah.
That's the issue, and that's really beginning to aggravate me.
If you're a patriot and you're concerned about immigration in the UK, you must support without question everything and anything Israel does.
Like, sorry, hang on, I missed a logical step somewhere.
Are these not two totally unconnected, separate issues with no link whatsoever between them?
And of course, the link is, you know, this is about generating support for Israel by hating Muslims in the UK. That's the play.
It's like your enemy's enemy is my friend.
But I really find it aggravating, and so many people have fallen for it.
It's very clever when you think about it, when you equate your concern with immigration into the UK with, that means you must, by default, provide unequivocal support for Israel.
Sorry, there's no logic in that step, but that doesn't matter.
Yes, yes.
You were lamenting before we started how difficult it is getting traction from your research and kind of how thankless the task you perform is.
And I was sort of saying, well, suck it up.
It's the road you're on, suck it up.
Well, just because that is the nature of the beast, that...
Anyone capable of earning a decent living out of this thing is almost certainly going to be working for the enemy, whether they're controlled opposition, whether they're gatekeepers or whatever.
I mean, anyone with a...
Have you looked, for example, at Candace Owens' internet following?
No, I've heard a little bit about it, but no, I haven't really...
Who are the other...
It's been a while since we talked about...
I don't like talking about Twitter because it doesn't deserve publicity, but at the same time, as we agreed, it's a good way of examining using metrics.
We're actually measuring how we are manipulated.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And who's pushing which agenda?
Are there any other figures who've attracted your attention recently that have...
I haven't done so much.
And the other thing we want to put out there is, this is another amazing thing, like Musk has this...
It has this reputation of cleaning it all up.
It's going to be transparent.
I'm going to clean those goddamn bots out of there.
What has Musk done?
He's made it virtually impossible to spot bots now.
So he has actually closed large sections of the data that were necessary to spot bots.
So there was a feed that went to other programs called Botometer.
That was closed down about two years ago.
All the data on likes has been now deleted, but in the name of helping you.
Like, your likes are now confidential.
Well, that means I can't also...
I can no longer see those likes and spot which of them are fake.
And really, the final nail in the coffin of spotting that fake traffic is the followers.
The followers are no longer public.
So if someone has a thousand followers, you'll get to see twenty.
And of course, you can always pull 20 genuine followers out of a list of 1,000.
So you used to be able to scroll through all the followers and you could go right from top to bottom and see what percentage is fake.
That's now also no longer possible.
But since I've done it a couple of years ago and I know the methodology, it's pretty obvious.
And the other way to get at this is to say anything over about 1,000 likes is looking very suspicious.
So that, the, what's his name, the other guy who was running for presidency, Vashaswamy or whatever his name is, he's one of the sort of Musk's circle.
He'll write a tweet about nothing much.
That's 40,000, 50,000 likes.
It's just no way.
You know, we're just like, I'm not gonna, I don't need to go through who's providing what it looks like to say, this is just utter nonsense.
And the figure we discussed, like 80%, I'm sticking with it.
I think it's probably gone up now.
Now, for example, DOGE, this Department of Government Efficiency they're pushing, I mean, it's just a wall of these memes that Massively amplified by these DOGE designer, by Musk himself, by Varek, whatever his name is.
There's another guy, Mario somebody, another guy with 1.7 million followers who nobody's ever heard of, who's also pushing all this stuff.
And the place is just absolutely drowning in this nonsense right now.
Alex, that's good.
You want to ask me a question?
Yeah, I'm a sort of big believer in this kind of life cycle of empire over 250 years, which then leads me to the question is how much are the cabal passengers on that cycle because they understand it.
And how much do they create it?
Because they're creating, obviously, what they're doing now is they're destroying the West.
There's no doubt about that.
Are they doing that because they understand that we're on the downslope?
They're extracting as much wealth as they can on the way out and getting ready for an upslope somewhere else.
Or actually, we would have been fine if it wasn't for these psychopath bloodsuckers at the top.
I think there could be something in your theory in that it's the same business model as what are those people who...
Buy up companies and then strip them of all their assets and just run them down.
I think that the Vulture model is one that is applied on a kind of small scale, a small timescale and a long timescale.
So, and it's the same, there's that book, isn't it, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, which describes how this process is used to keep third world countries under the thumb and steal all their resources.
And I think in the same way, what's...
So they...
Because they have...
These people have...
Privileged early entry access to the economy because they are shaping policy.
They're at the top of the banking chain and so on.
They get to skim off the money on the way up and skim off all the money on the way down before the masses get their chance to grab whatever crumbs they can.
So, yeah, I think cycles, economic cycles, imperial cycles, if you like, are part of the process.
I think that what these people have worked out, because they think on a much longer term scale than we do, they've worked out what works and they keep applying it throughout history.
So they do like boom and bust cycles, and that's why they create them.
I mean, the Wall Street crash was created in order for them to be able to move in and buy up cheap assets.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
But I think this is the mega cycle that they don't necessarily...
I was wondering whether we had a point of difference on sort of analysis that...
I'm wondering if some people think everything would have been fine if it wasn't for these blood-sucking psychopaths.
And I'm saying the broad sweep was down because of the Sir John Glubb Fate of Empires.
There was no way to avoid that.
And these guys, of course, are making it worse and enriching themselves in the process.
But the sort of force of gravity as such is going to be there anyway.
Yes.
That meme about strong men in bad times and weak men in good times.
Yeah.
I'm sure that these are natural human weaknesses that...
They've learned how to exploit, because after all, their entire model is parasitical, isn't it?
Exploitation.
So they really like it, which for me is where the spiritual dimension comes into it.
Why good and evil are important.
And why we're enjoined by Scripture to turn away from evil and concentrate on things that are good.
It's because the Bible knows what renders us vulnerable to exploitation by the forces of darkness.
And so they're saying, look, don't feed the beast.
Don't.
Just opt out if you can.
So I suppose I've often wondered what the world would look like if everyone sort of acted according to, say, the teachings of Jesus and the Psalms and so on.
And I think that we'd all be a lot We'd be more prosperous, but probably with fewer gadgets.
So...
Okay, let me give you an example.
I did a...
I did a podcast the other day with an architect called Maya Hughes, who's pretty much down the rabbit hole with us, and she was describing to me the process whereby Particularly,
it's accelerated at the end of the 19th century, that traditional materials were shunned, like lime mortar, you know, mortar made with quicklime.
Oh, I like lime mortar.
Which allows buildings to expand and contract, and stones and bricks to breathe, and...
Instead, this concrete and water was introduced, and I described it as the equivalent of amalgam fillings for dentists.
You know, it's easier to slap on, but it's also deadly for the person that you apply it to.
In the same way, concrete and all these sort of quick fix things, and plastic framed windows.
Which are essentially the business model of the DuPont family, which is one of the 12 satanic bloodlines, 13 satanic bloodlines.
The reason you've got all this extruded white plastic is the DuPont family wants it to be so.
So in the course of chat about this podcast afterwards, somebody described how They had built their own home using traditional materials and they sent me some photographs and it was a beautiful thing to behold and it isn't full of poisons to get rid of allegedly things like dry rot or rising damp
or whatever.
That it's It's got beautiful timber in it.
It also happens to be energy efficient, but that's a kind of accidental byproduct.
But I imagine it's got timber framed windows and so on.
And I think that in a world where we were living according to the Bible, We would be growing much more of our own food.
We'd have more time to grow our own food in our own gardens.
We would have more living space.
We wouldn't be hemmed into these kind of rat cage There wouldn't be all these regulations which make things more inconvenient and fill us with unnecessary stuff about the height of sockets and so on.
It would be much more about our particular needs rather than regulation.
And we'd have so much more...
We'd be more prosperous because...
I think that most of the jobs in the world are not just unnecessary, but actually counterproductive.
They leech off the productive sector of the economy.
So any job with the word sustainability in the title, any job with the word diversity in the title, anything to do with compliance regulation is pretty much, most lawyers would be out of business because obviously anything to do with compliance regulation is pretty much, most lawyers would be out of business because obviously why would you need to, The banking industry would not exist.
Usury would not exist.
So there would be so much more abundance And the world would look prettier.
There wouldn't be any plastic frame windows, for starters.
There wouldn't be any wind turbines.
And there'd be free energy as well.
Because of, you know, Tesla and all that.
Edison would never have got a look in because he was a Satanist and he was only protected by the Satanic Order.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
Yeah, I mean, I see, yeah, I see, because I, like, I'm a big glove.
I try and tell everyone in every newsletter I write, say, this is it.
And his thing is the decline of Christianity is matched with an increase in the welfare state and a mass increase in immigration, which, of course, is exactly what we've got, which he wouldn't have known back then.
He wrote it in 76 or something.
And it's an absolute bullseye situation we've got.
And I've started it, but it'll take a couple more days.
But if you match any negative social index, like births outside marriage, obviously that matches 100% with the decline in Christianity.
And I've not been able to say to people, well, actually to get this to go back up, if you think that's important that children are born...
Within marriage, I mean, I'm not a crazy sort of moralist in this, but generally it's better.
Oh, I am.
I don't have any problem with people who are.
I mean, I'm just...
I don't like to preach, but, you know, the obvious thing, the only way this is going up is to get the Christianity up as well, because these things move completely together.
are but you see I would argue that Christianity and Christian values are um that they're actually quite quite natural They're things that coincide with our interests.
It's not that we need to push people more towards Christianity.
It's more that we need to remove the forces which make Christianity so unpalatable, which is by design.
You think about the melancholy longest roaring roar of Christianity in the 19th century that Matthew Arnold was lamenting in Dover Beach.
And he was describing a symptom of the advance of the forces of darkness through our culture.
So, you say that Christianity has declined.
It's not because people suddenly thought, well, how?
What is this point of stuff we're doing about going to church and having families?
It's been...
Pushed out by the sort of Marxists and the humanists.
Well, pushed out, yes.
And they're very aggressive about it.
Absolutely.
The so-called Enlightenment was an endarkenment.
And this sort of accelerated, I think, in the...
You know, from the sort of 1666 onward, where...
Already the system had been captured by the forces of what would become the Illuminati.
And you look at what happened to Christianity in the 19th century with the With the advent of Darwin, an evolutionary theory.
Darwin was funded by various high-level Freemasonic lodges to promote this bullshit narrative about how we came from the apes.
And a few bishops, to be fair, they...
They tried to stand up to this.
But I imagine, certainly if you asked any bishop in the Church of England now where we came from, they'd say, well, it's quite...
There was evolution, but obviously there was a kind of divine...
They'd never say...
They'd never come up with a Genesis account that God created us in his image.
They'd never go there.
because they think that they're modern Christians, they're sophisticated Christians.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think for me, I try to sort of say to people, look, if this has all gone bad exactly as Christianity has gone down and that's created the space for all this insanity, the retreat of Christianity, the only way out of the insanity is to the retreat of Christianity, the only way out of the insanity is to get this But it's a hard sell.
I don't really sell it, but I just ask the question.
I don't know how you do it, other than what...
Because I'm suspicious of a lot of forms of...
I'm proselytizing Christianity.
So, I mean, I do it, but I think I do it in a kind of light way where, well, you know, if you're not interested, I'll shake the dust off my shoes and move on.
But I'm very suspicious, for example, of the kind of the evangelical wing of the church that Justin Welby came from.
The forces of darkness have got it all.
They're pretty cunning because their boss, their CEO is the devil who is the prince of lies among other things.
So of course they're going to capture some of the happy clappy churches.
Of course they're going to I see good in all the different branches of the church, but I also see a lot of bad.
And that's how it works.
I mean, imagine a situation where someone said, right...
In order to undo all the damage that has been done, we've got to really have a drive to restore Christianity.
So we're going to make church going compulsory, or education dependent on, or access to our NHS dependent on going to church.
But it wouldn't work, would it?
Well, it wasn't for children.
I mean, I was indoctrinated because I had to go as a child.
And now I thank God, I mean, almost literally that I did.
Because somewhere buried deep in there are those lessons and the hymns and all the ceremony, which I, you know, probably wouldn't have done if I hadn't made to do it.
So, you know, thinking that childhood, maybe you do need to be made to go and that's it.
Our generation was blessed in that we had scripture classes with tests To test your Bible knowledge.
And it was, you know, you wanted to win.
Well, I did because I like winning general knowledge competitions and stuff.
We had to go to church, chapel as it was called, every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
And we had to sing psalms and we had to sing hymns.
And we read our Bible and it was just one of those things that you did.
So we had this grounding that later generations were, Denied.
I agree.
I think that school assemblies ought to have a Christian element to them, to just familiarise people with what is, after all, their culture.
We are, notionally at least, a Christian culture and certainly previous centuries they wouldn't even question that we're a Christian culture.
It's just like breathing.
But Your problem is that the decline of the church is so far gone.
Suppose you force people to go to church.
What if you were forcing them to go to a church, as would be likely, with one of those bleeding heart vicars who banged and whitted on about Ukraine all the time?
Or climate change and Gaia worship.
They don't even do Christianity.
Yeah.
But that's where, again, Gubb says it'll take, his view is it'll take, I think he said, one or possibly more generations for the country to discover its love of religion and sort of stop its love of money.
So he's talking about like a hundred-something-year cycle to recover from the downside after the age of decadence.
So it is a long process.
Yeah, we really did.
My son goes to church, which I find odd, because he didn't...
He's just sort of out of the blue.
Where are you going?
I'm going to church.
I was just like, where are you going?
Sorry.
Completely bad character.
I just didn't expect it.
How old is he?
He's 21 now.
He started going a year or so ago.
Yes, exactly, at that age as well.
What sort of church?
I wouldn't know saying of that coming.
I don't know what it is.
He's up in Newcastle somewhere, and whatever he has up there, he goes there.
Yeah.
I'm guessing.
Well, I mean, it's obviously not going to be a Latin Mass Catholic thing, because I think you'd have mentioned that.
And it's obviously not orthodox.
Yeah, I think it's whatever Church of England thing he's got there.
Well, it could well be one of those sort of Baptist-y type places like the one I went to in Loughborough, which is great.
I mean, I think some of these churches where you've got people who are committed to their scripture...
And no sense of embarrassment about being Christian.
They're very inspirational and that feeling of fellowship you get is just great.
It's like being awake.
It's like being on an awake rally and surrounded by people who totally get that the government is a criminal conspiracy.
That feeling from those rallies was once in a lifetime, I think.
It was, wasn't it?
It really was so fantastic.
But so many of those on those rallies...
Those are dropped by the wayside.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, they're dropped by the wayside with the next sigh off.
Well, that's certainly true, but also some of the people who we imagined were the emergent leaders of our movement.
Actually, we were just being set up for the next stage of psyopery.
But as I said, this Department of Government Efficiency has been another...
I just got my head in my hands watching...
They can't sort of say, well, look, they're going to cut all this expenditure, but Palatir shares are going through the roof, which is 50% of its revenues from the government.
Do you think the market is completely stupid?
Or they know that all the Department of Government efficiency is just a psyop to buy off the patriots that have just been shafted, you know?
I guess the last thing on that is I think also that Trump will just, I guess, be a bit of a fall guy, right, when they do start the war, right?
All his base will get furious and he'll just shuffle off and leave it with Vance and let them deal with it.
I'm going with the Miri theory that he's going to get fake assassinated.
Fake out.
But this fake assassination will be faked to look successful.
So Trump will go off to Antarctica to live with David Bowie and we'll get J.D. Vance.
Yeah, yeah.
That's the plan, I think.
This is already being seeded in the media.
Yeah, and his role is fantastic, right?
He's a genuine sort of hillbilly, but he's a beast system, big tech guy at the same time, which must be quite a rare combination.
So he's the perfect frontman for...
That's why he was chosen.
Yes, they're not stupid, these guys, sure.
Well, he was handpicked by Peter Thiel, wasn't he?
In the same way that...
Yes, exactly, yes, groomed, yeah.
In the same way that Klaus Schwab was handpicked by David Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger.
It's just that that's what they do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, lots of cheery stuff there.
Alex, good to have you back on the show.
Where do we find you?
There's a sub-stack, Thinking Coalition.
Yeah, and that's coming.
There's a good analysis of the 2024 election.
And the thing I'm putting out today is a complete debunking of that DOGE. And there's quite a lot of interesting stuff in there.
It won't be that long, so it's quite readable.
And then there's thinkingcoalition.com is the website.
And also the Rumble channel is Thinking Slow.
And also on...
ThinkingCoalition.com Yeah, and there's also the Telegram channel, which I think is also...
I think that's Thinking Slow.
But the Substack pieces are going to be pretty interesting now, I think.
So if people want to find you on Substack, where again?
Do they look?
Thinking Coalition.
Thinking Coalition.
Okay.
That's good.
We definitely need support because the amount of work that goes into the research is mind-bending.
And I used to do this for a living and I understand what, you know, a level of quality.
And it is high quality, but right now we're just not able to get the traction.
On the paid side of this.
So the general subscriber number is fine.
But we really need people to pay if they feel there's value in the service.
And as I said, in the commercial world, I knew the value.
It was there, you know.
But in this kind of new model, we're just not having people pony up.
And I think that's bad for them long term.
And it's the same situation with Miri and Simon Elmer.
That if people don't pay for this and it disappears, they're going to be in big trouble because they're not going to get anything from Russell Brand or the other approved alternatives who are just keeping you in that cycle of day-to-day nonsense and herding you in whichever way the system wants you heard it.
And it's never ever to think deep about what's going on.
So if we're not funded, we disappear one way or the other.
Yeah.
Yes.
Amen.
So please support Alex's research and please support me.
You'll find me on Substack and on Locals.
You get early access to my...
Probably you get other perks as well.
I haven't worked out what those perks might be, but they would be lovely.
And also you get the warm glow of satisfaction.
I mean, this is my only income source.
So please do.
Actually, I actually felt very happy subscribing to Jamie Franklin.
It actually is a good feeling.
It is a good feeling knowing that you're supporting something worthwhile.
And I cancelled a Spectator subscription in order to...
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Yeah, it is better to give than receive.
Definitely.
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