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Nov. 26, 2024 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Jeff Berwick

Former rapper, now financial expert, writer, anarcho-capitalist and “a fearless opponent of the power-elite” - Jeff Berwick, aka Dollar Vigilante, chats with James about the recent US election, weather manipulation, crypto and ‘God’.https://dollarvigilante.com ↓ ↓ ↓Here is the link for this week’s product https://nutrahealth365.com/↓ ↓ ↓ Buy James a Coffee at:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/jamesdelingpole The official website of James Delingpole:https://jamesdelingpole.co.uk x

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Welcome to The DellingPod with me, James DellingPod.
And I'm feeling both excited and a little bit sad.
The reason I'm excited is because I've got this amazing event coming up.
It's called James and Dick's Christmas Special.
Can you guess what it involves?
That's right.
It's James and Dick on a stage, just chatting the usual rubbish, but with an intimate audience.
And it will be surrounded by drinks with a cash bar.
Woodfire pizzas will be available.
You have to pay for them, but I think you'll want to feed.
And most important of all, you will be surrounded by like-minded folk.
I mean, that's the real point of these events.
Obviously, Dick and I will probably say some funny things.
And by the way, I don't think I'm going to record this event, so it's like, be there or miss it totally.
Um...
There'll be a cash bar.
I've insisted on a cash bar this time after the disaster at the last event where people went to a pub and found it was card only, which is a bit off-brand.
It's going to be in Northamptonshire.
You'll get the details as soon as you buy your ticket.
My big worry is that tickets are selling out quite fast.
There are not that many.
It's not like one of my big London events.
And you're going to...
These intimate ones are probably more fun in a way because you get more access or something like that.
Anyway, lots of the usual suspects are coming.
Oh, and Dick's Band!
Dick's Band Unregistered Chickens are headlining.
There'll probably be other special guests too, I don't know.
I mean, I'm not promising.
But anyway, if you want tickets to this event, which is on the 30th of November, that's a Saturday, so you can make a weekend of it if you like.
You know, book somewhere and have a nice weekend in the Northamptonshire countryside.
I'll let you know hotel recommendations and stuff.
If you want to come to this thing, it's on the 30th of November, Saturday.
Starts at 5pm.
You can get tickets at my website, which is jamesdellingpole.co.uk forward slash Christmas 2024. Tickets, £25.
I think that's it.
Get in there before tickets sell out.
Seriously.
I mean, they are selling fast.
We've already sold a Porsche of them.
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And you can find all this at NutriHealth365.com NutriHealth365.com Welcome to the Darling Pod, Jeff Berwick.
As you insist on styling yourself...
I asked you at the beginning, before we went on air, I said, how do I pronounce your surname?
And you admitted that you have Scottish ancestors who would have pronounced it correctly, Berwick.
As in like Berwick on Tweed or...
But you've gone all foreign, all American continent and pronounced it Berwick.
Yeah, my great-grandma used to get really upset at me for saying Berwick, but that's what my parents did, that's what my grandparents did, but my great-grandparents on my dad's side were from Scotland, and yeah, they did not like that at all.
It's definitely Beddock.
Well, there it is.
We're going to call you Berwick.
I mean, actually, to be fair, whenever I'd referred to you in the past, I'd called you Berwick.
But then as the date of this podcast approached, I thought, well, hang on a second.
What if I get it wrong and he's really offended?
Anyway, I'm so glad to get you on.
I get offended so easily.
Any little thing like that, I'll just, that's it.
Well, you know what?
You never know with people.
Some people can be quite prickly about the most pathetic things.
And you could have been one of those.
That would set me off.
You can't trigger me.
It's impossible.
Is that because you live in...
In Mexico, and you're having this idyllic life where the whole town comes to celebrate your son's second birthday and they slaughter a cow and they have music and everything's fun and it's like a fiesta.
Is that the deal?
That definitely doesn't hurt, but that's not really the reason why I don't think, because I've been like this, I think, my entire life.
Anytime someone says something sort of negative to me, I either listen to it and go, is he right?
And look at myself and that sort of thing.
And if it's clearly wrong, like just impossibly wrong, it can't be right, I just laugh because they're obviously just stupid.
And I also have to say I do meditate.
I've been meditating for years and I meditate about one to two hours a day.
I actually didn't do two hours today because I had to come on your show early because you're on a later time zone.
So I actually only did one hour today, but That definitely doesn't hurt either.
And as you meditate more, you realize that nothing in this world is all that serious or all that worth getting upset about.
Because really, none of it's actually real.
Well, I think that is definitely a point we can discuss further.
I have to say, you're looking...
Well, I don't have any measurements to compare you with, but you do look very well.
How old are you?
I'm 50. I'm just about to turn 54 in two weeks.
Yeah.
I have to say, you're only a few years younger than me, and you're looking...
You could be...
Yeah.
You could be a lot younger.
I mean, I think it helps you've got more hair than me.
But meditation.
Before we go on to other stuff, I'm...
I'm slightly suspicious of meditation, especially since I became a Christian, just because I worry that when you open your mind, you open it up to the possibility of demonic entities creeping in and fucking you over.
Does that ever worry you?
No, it never worries me.
Just look at Jesus.
He went out for 40 days by himself.
What do you think he was doing?
He was basically meditating.
That's basically what it is.
Meditation isn't what a lot of people think it necessarily is.
It's really just sitting there and watching your own mind.
As well, when you talk about demons coming into your mind and stuff, I actually think all that stuff is all in your mind.
Both the good and bad stuff, it's all created by your mind.
In fact, I think every single thing, including you, me, this earth, whatever, anything else, is all in the mind of God, essentially.
And that's essentially what we are.
But in the mind of God, it's crazy, it's wild, and this experience is incredible.
But even when you, you know, I've heard some people say that.
I actually think the man-made organized religions Which has nothing to do with Jesus, for example.
He never talked about going to church or anything.
He basically said, don't listen to the government.
Don't pay taxes.
And if you see the money changer central banksters around, get a little violent with them.
And so I totally love Jesus.
He's awesome.
If he was real, I don't know.
I don't believe anything's real.
In fact, nothing's real in this, what we're experiencing right now.
But as far as meditation, I think the man-made religion type things try to get you to think that, that, oh, if you do that, you're going to have all these demons come into your mind and stuff.
They do that because if you did that, you'd actually realize what all of this is.
You'd actually have a true connection with God.
They don't want you to do that.
They want you to pay every Sunday your teeth and go to them to get God and stuff like that.
It's funny to me when people say, oh, I think it might be evil to meditate.
It's like, how could it possibly be evil to go sit in a room and just watch what happens with your mind?
Yes.
Everyone needs to do that because the mind is crazy.
The mind, to a lot of religious people, the mind basically is the devil.
So that might be why they're scared of it because when you look at your own mind, you'll start to see it's insane.
It's basically what the religious people call Satan in many ways.
And so I think a lot of people who are more religious kind of look at meditation with fear, but I think they're fearful of actually looking at themselves.
I totally hadn't meant this to be a podcast in which we discussed our very different spiritual outlooks.
I think, look, the stuff we agree on, I think Jesus is the person from history, I think he definitely existed, that I would most like to have met.
I think he's great.
I think where we disagree is quite a lot of stuff.
I did a podcast with a guy a while back which completely changed my view on demonic entities.
Demons are definitely real.
But that isn't to say that people can't benefit from meditation.
I mean, you don't look like you're...
I'm looking at your eyes, and I'm saying you haven't got these things called, is it Sampuku eyes?
Sampuku eyes?
Which are a sign of demonic possession.
I'm not sensing that.
So that's good.
Anyway, what I want you to ask you...
Well done.
Well done, Jeff.
Thank you.
What I wanted to ask you was, actually lots of things, lots of things.
I mean, Trump has just got in, and probably like me, I suspect, you knew it was going to happen ages ago.
It wasn't like a big surprise.
It was the next stage of the plan.
Are you talking about Trump?
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry, maybe I missed that.
I didn't hear you say Trump.
Oh, sorry, maybe the wires, the transatlantic cable connects.
Could be.
What I was saying is that there's a lot of kind of confected surprise, and I don't really read the mainstream media, but I sort of get hints of it through the ether.
And the media is pretending that it's a great upset, and that who could have foreseen this?
The pollsters were all taken by surprise.
And I'm thinking, just see if I'm too far off being...
The previous election, the 2021, was rigged and stolen by Biden for whatever reasons.
This one could have been stolen, had the deep state so wished it to be, but it wasn't.
Instead, they decided that Trump was going to get back in power.
It's not to do with voter power bases or people changing their minds about Trump.
It's all fixed, yeah?
Yeah, the entire thing is a show.
There's a great movie, if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it, called The Jones Plantation, that basically describes what democracy is and how it works today.
A lot of people say the 2020 selection, I call it selection because it has nothing to do with people voting.
It's who they decide is going to go in.
It's all a show besides that.
But the 2020, they said that the Biden side stole it.
And now you're actually seeing some of the left people saying that the Trump side stole this one.
The truth is that they're always all stolen.
They're all controlled by the same people.
And that's the one thing that hardly anyone still gets.
And the point you pointed out about how the media...
just so easily just said, well, you know, just Trump won and there was no pushback or anything.
I found that very, very interesting because, you know, if the mainstream media is saying, yeah, everything's fine, then it wasn't fine, right?
Everything they say is a lie.
That's That's all you need to know about mainstream media.
It's basically the CIA. And the governments always lie as well.
So whatever they're saying, you just start with they're lying and then go from there.
But the truth is, in my opinion, that both Trump and Biden and Harris are all controlled by the same people.
They would never allow someone who actually could or would change things.
To get anywhere near the presidency, the last time that happened was Ron Paul.
He was packing football stadiums, literally like 40,000, 50,000 people.
This was back in like 2008, I think.
I can't even remember who the puppets were back then, but it was probably Obama and somebody.
The Republican guys would have like 300 people show up to their talks.
And Ron Paul would have tens of thousands of people.
And they did every single thing, every trick in the book.
My baby just locked in.
Hang on.
I just want to lock the door.
They did every trick in the book to get rid of him.
We like interruptions.
Hello.
Happy birthday.
What's his name?
Estorio Nazirista.
I should have locked the door.
No, that's alright.
He's a good-looking kid.
Yeah, yeah, he's awesome.
Yeah, sorry.
But anyway, so yeah, they did every trick in the book to get rid of Ron Paul.
It was clear that he was clearly the number one candidate, at least on the Republican side, and he didn't get anywhere near being the candidate because he was actually a decent guy.
He's actually spoken at our events at the Narcopoco.
He's talked about how, at the very least, the government should be reduced to what it says in the Constitution, which is still kind of a scam, in my opinion.
It's still slavery, but He's very, very libertarian.
That was the last time anyone got close, and I can't believe that people are falling for Trump again.
This one was so easy for me to see because he's already been president.
He already ran for president and said all kinds of lies.
He said he was going to balance the budget.
He was going to end the Fed Reserve.
He said hundreds of things like that, and then he didn't do any of them.
And then he actually tried to kill everyone in the U.S. Sorry, now my dog's in here.
Let me let her out.
I should have locked this door.
Is that a chihuahua?
That's apples.
It's crazy around here.
That's a very high-pitched yap.
Is that a chihuahua?
Yeah, that's apples or chihuahua.
Yeah, I guess, you know, Mexico and all that.
What are those creatures that run everywhere in New Mexico, those with tails?
The what?
Those creatures with furry tails that you see running everywhere.
Squirrels?
No!
You get them in Costa Rica and you get them in Mexico.
What are they called?
Bunkies?
I don't know.
It'll come back to me.
I've never seen anything with a furry tail running around.
I bet you've got them.
Anyway, sorry, you were saying...
Before we interrupted...
I was saying, actually, so why don't we end it there and you can follow up.
So...
Do you reckon, was there ever a time when US presidents were not controlled by the same people?
No.
The U.S. is very obviously founded essentially by the Freemasons.
Everything in Washington, D.C. is laid out according to the Mason stuff.
So they've always been secret societies.
They've always at least been Masons, stuff like that.
The entire idea of government is actually a completely evil idea.
The actual meaning of the word Is from Latin.
There's two words, guberner, which means to control, and mente, mente, in Spanish, mind.
It's mind control, and it always has been, and it's...
It's amazing how they fool people to think that they need someone who's in charge of all of them, which is called authority.
You know, Jesus didn't stand for any of that stuff, but I'm always pretty amazed that Christians are involved in the political system or anything like that.
It's basically a system of slavery.
always been controlled in the US, in every country, basically.
The entire system, like what is a government?
What does it do?
Well, it tells you what to do.
Well, where does it get its authority?
Well, they say from the people.
Well, I didn't personally.
I don't know about you, but I definitely didn't.
And then how do they get all their money?
It's a criminal organization.
It's been around for hundreds or thousands of years now.
And it's been around so long, people just think it's just part of the cosmic firmament.
That's why they also always add in that line that there's only two things that are for sure in life.
And that's death.
And taxes.
It's like, no, taxes aren't for sure.
Stealing for people is not for sure.
They will definitely try it, and they never stop trying it.
But it's definitely nothing that we have to continue to do.
But they've mind-controlled people for millennia now, and most people just can't even fathom what I'm talking about.
Now you mention that, who came up with that quote?
It was an American...
Was it Benjamin Franklin?
I think it was Benjamin Franklin, yeah.
Who was also a Satanist as well, as being a high level.
Yeah, they're all kind of Satanists, and that's kind of what the Masons is at the highest level.
They're all kind of Satanic organizations.
Thing is, Jeff, if we'd done this podcast five years ago...
I'd have said, yeah, he's an entertaining guy, but he's a bit out there.
You know, he's crazy.
And now I'm just thinking, yeah, duh.
Everyone knows this stuff.
It's so obvious.
But I suspect that if we were to draw a kind of map or a Venn diagram of our fans, our following, What we would find is a worrying proportion of them, which, as you say, know all the other stuff that we know, but still think that Trump is different, that he's going to change all that.
Because no one was expecting him.
He's like the Spanish Inquisition.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
No one expected Trump to come back.
Yeah, it's incredible that so many people are falling for it all again.
That's what I was talking about earlier is that he did all the same things in 2016. And he then tried to kill everyone in the US with a lethal injection of poison.
He did.
And people are like, he'll save us.
We need him to save us.
It's like he just tried to kill everyone.
He also increased the government debt more than any other regime in history after saying he was not only going to balance the budget, but he was going to pay off all the debt, which is actually impossible.
It's kind of stupid that he said that, but people believed it.
I just want to pick you up there.
The reason that President Trump...
Fast forwarded the vax, the death jab, warp speed.
He had to.
He did it to outfox the deep state.
They weren't ready for him to really push this death jab.
What they wanted was to roll it out really slowly.
And he just saw through their tricks.
And that's why he did it.
Or he was just badly advised and he didn't know that it was a kill shot.
Yeah, you know, I actually heard that first conspiracy theory, the first one you mentioned, that he knew and he, like, rolled it out, like, faster, but with, like...
Actually, I only heard this about a month or two ago.
I couldn't believe it when I heard it.
It's all these Q people, and this Q thing is like a CIA thing that they keep giving these people who think they're waking up.
They're like, oh, I finally found the real info.
It's like, that's the CIA. The real info is like, over here, I'm walking my dog.
David Icke's over there, Max Egan's over there, but no one could ever find us because we're all banned.
But yeah, this has all been done before, and it's amazing that people just can't see it, and they keep falling for it.
It's amazing how they'll defend it like, well, he's just playing 5D chess.
It's like, well, his 5D chess kind of sucks because it's just creating more and more tyranny.
And now they're falling for it.
Well, now Elon Musk is with him.
Oh great!
Another billionaire wants to put a chip in your brain whose family is a technocrat family who wants to control the entire world by computers.
That sounds pretty good and that's kind of what they're rolling out now.
Like, hardly anyone believed me when I... I can't believe that this is happening again.
I was saying all the same things.
I'm like, Trump's going to get in.
He's not going to do any of these things he's saying.
And everyone's like, Jeff, you're crazy.
He said he totally is.
It's like, that's what he does.
He's an actor.
And...
And it's actually already happened.
That election selection was a week ago and he started selecting his own people and they're all like these war people and neocons and almost all of them are Jewish or Israeli passport holders or Zionists.
And a lot of people are actually kind of upset.
They're like, I thought he was going to put in all the good people.
It's like, no, that's what they say.
This happens every four years.
But they drink, they have fluoride in their water.
They drink fluoride.
They shower in fluoride.
They're getting chemtrailed with aluminum, like, nonstop right now.
That stuff goes into your brain.
It makes it so you can't remember anything.
So most people can't even remember that he was president before, and it was horrible.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, I remember the line about his...
His Israel connections, you know, like moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem or something.
He did lots of tinkering there.
And everyone was saying, yeah, it's only because of his son-in-law.
You know, he's got this Jewish son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is kind of...
Trump's our guy, but he's just surrounded by these people who are making him do this stuff that he doesn't want to do, and it doesn't come naturally to him.
Yeah, he...
I'll tell you the thing that really upsets people.
I think I may be losing fans over this.
When you point out to them that the assassination attempts weren't real, that it wasn't the hand of God that turned Trump's head at the key moment when the bullet went whizzing past.
It wasn't because he's God's chosen.
It's because it was all fake.
It was clearly fake.
It was so set up.
There's so much evidence towards that now.
The fact that the so-called shooter that they said died, he's still alive.
I didn't know that one.
Is he still alive?
It looks like it.
He walks around with his dad wearing a mask all the time.
But that's even just a small part of it.
There's no video of him shooting.
How did he get up there?
That's actually the real smoking...
Gun of the thing is that no one saw him.
All these snipers didn't see him.
No one saw him.
And then he just missed.
And then Trump really never really looked into it and said, hey, obviously someone was in on this.
It was either the Secret Service or the CIA or whoever.
He never even brought it up.
In fact, he would say just, you know...
You know, Trump, he's the kind of person who will never really boast about anything, right?
And he hasn't barely said a word about it ever since because he doesn't want people to look into it because it was clearly just a fully staged event.
And some people might say, yeah, but Jeff, someone was shot in the crowd.
Well, do we know that?
We don't know anything.
If it came from the mainstream media, we don't know anything.
But if someone was shot, that's actually pretty typical for these people.
They'll kill whoever they want to make it look real.
9-11, for example, they killed 3,000 people in a couple minutes.
To say it was a guy in a cave in Afghanistan, which it clearly wasn't, it was clearly the U.S. government at some levels, and Israel, the Mossad, was involved as well.
So, yeah, the whole bullet whizzing by his ear, and it just ticked it, and...
Then he said afterwards his hand was covered in blood, which it wasn't.
It was like there was no blood.
There was a little bit of blood here, but it looked like blood that he easily could have just put on his ear as he was under the SS agents.
And then he just jumps up and starts yelling, fight, fight, fight!
The whole thing, it's so obvious that it's all fake.
And they said they tried to kill him like five other times.
That's the thing I'm trying to figure out right now is why are they doing all this to make him look like some sort of savior guy?
because he definitely isn't.
And that's what we're finding out right now, is he's putting in all his Israel people into power, and what's going to be the next step.
And I think it's going to be something along the lines of World War III, attacking Iran, these sort of things, which we'll see what happens with that.
I also have another theory that they might actually really assassinate him, although even that might not even be real, but it'll seem real to everyone, just like with a lot of the things they do.
And before he gets put in to cause the most chaos, But we'll see what happens.
It doesn't really matter.
The only thing that really matters in this matrix, and if you're looking at this, is that this is a criminal organization, and anyone who's giving them any money in any form called taxes, which is just extortion, you're financing terrorism, you're financing your own slavery, and that's what people need to wake up to.
But they kept them, again, and Boy, they did a great job this time with the fake assassination attempt.
It was like World Wrestling Federation.
And even Trump said that on Rogan.
It was just like in the WWE. And that's what it was.
He's actually in the World Wrestling Federation Hall of Fame.
I don't know why anyone can't see this, but they're like, no, Jeff, he's not an actor.
His IMDb page is like hundreds of...
He's in hundreds of movies.
He's an actor.
Like, he's clearly an actor.
And they're like, yeah, but he's not acting this time.
I was like, are you sure?
Because he was acting last time as well.
Last time he was president, he said all these things and didn't do any of them.
Yeah.
You've actually answered the question I was going to ask you.
Because...
Another, a friend of mine called Miri AF, she, her theory I think is quite a good one, which is that all these, they're trying to assassinate Trump.
It's the deep state.
It's Iran.
One of these days, they're going to succeed.
And whether or not it's...
Well, it's going to be faked.
Trump's going to go and live in Antarctica.
And then, I think, probably with...
Not with Elvis, because Elvis is living in...
Is it Missouri or somewhere?
Elvis is now a pastor.
Do you not know about this?
Elvis is a pastor in a church in the South somewhere.
Anyway, by the by.
But Trump will go and live in Antarctica with David Bowie.
And, you know, there'll be this period of, like, who could have imagined this was going to happen even though lots of media pundits have been saying they'll get him one day because that's the plan.
And J.D. Vance will take over, as was always the plan.
And J.D. Vance makes Trump look like...
I mean, I don't want a J.D. Vance presidency, I think, is going to be a scary thing.
It doesn't matter.
We're in control of anything.
It's all a show.
Just look at Biden.
He hasn't been functional for two years now.
Everything continues on.
There's no changes.
The president doesn't do anything.
This is all controlled.
And just look at every single person in Congress, and it's called Congress for a reason because they're all con men.
Also like sexual Congress because they're taking you up the arse as well.
That's true.
And they're all controlled by Israel.
All of them.
Except for, I think, one.
That one guy.
The one guy whose wife was killed.
Yeah, his wife got killed.
He was the one guy.
What are the odds of that?
Poor guy.
What have you got in that bag?
Why aren't you offering me any?
It's just nicotine.
It's from a Storzenbickle volcano and I have organic tobacco and it actually bakes it really at high temperatures so it has no negative health effects and it just gives you straight nicotine and a bit of flavor actually from the tobacco and it's completely healthy for you and actually nicotine is in many ways it's like a nootropic.
It's actually really healthy for you.
That's actually why they've been trying to get it out of people's hands but the thing is cigarettes.
They've got them laced with so many things.
That's what causes all the problems.
And also the combustion of it will get your lungs coated with all the particulates and stuff like that.
This has zero particulates.
So this is completely healthy smoking.
And because the governments have been trying to get everyone to stop doing it for so long, I figure there must be something to it.
Whatever they say not to do, I do.
Whatever they say to do, like take the lethal injection or pay taxes, I don't do.
No, that's very wise.
So does that mean you don't smoke any form of cigarettes?
No, I used to.
But once I found out about this, I switched and never went back.
And have no interest in going back because this is so much better.
This is awesome.
Well, I wish I were there with you partaking of it.
It's a bit unwieldy.
I mean, I can't imagine a group of people standing outside in a pub garden, say, or just sucking on their...
It's a little uncomfortable socially, but when you're in your office like I am for most of the day, it's just perfect.
You can also get tubes for them.
It's like a shisha sort of thing.
So you could do it at a pub, actually.
Actually, that's a great idea for anyone watching.
No one knows about this.
I'm like the only person on earth who knows about it, that it's actually really healthy.
And in fact, if you go to Storrs and Bickel website to buy the volcano, it will tell you do not use tobacco in it.
I don't know exactly why, but they don't want anyone to know.
If you want to get nicotine, which is a good thing, this is the best way to do it.
So I must have misheard you.
I thought you were saying you'd got it from a volcano, but you didn't say that, did you?
Yeah, it's called the Storzenbickle Volcano.
Hang on, I'll show you.
This is it right here.
So, hang on.
There we go.
So this is the tobacco I put in.
And I spray it with a little bit of water, just something like this.
I'm a little bit...
They call me freza in Mexico.
I like everything to be really nice, so I use thermal water.
And I put a little bit of flavor in it as well.
This is called Bear Blend, and it's all herbs, natural organic herbs.
And it takes about 30 seconds, 45 seconds to cook up.
And then, yeah...
I thought I was a kind of hippie health freak weirdo, but you're taking the biscuit there, Jeff.
I've got a hyperbaric chamber in my house.
I've got a cryotherapy device in my house.
I've got a machine in my house.
Listen, if I ran Dollar Vigilante and was the crypto king, I too would have those, because I totally believe in those.
Particularly given that I'm always falling off my bloody horse and injuring myself.
And so I need cryogenic stuff and all that to help me heal.
Your assistant told me that you had to delay the interview because you fell off your horse.
Yeah, I've got concussion.
Oh, wow.
And we're seeing how long it lasts, because I wouldn't get back on a horse again and, you know, take more punishment.
Why have a machine here that would basically cure it?
It cures everything.
It cures cancer.
It cures anything.
Everything.
If you have major back pain, cures it, no problem.
It actually gives you massive amounts of energy.
Which one is this?
It's called a Tesla machine.
Oh, a Tesla machine.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you can get it at tzla.club.
It's about $10,000, so people know.
But it is miraculous.
It's actually the biggest rediscovery of the old ancient technology in our lifetimes.
And no one knows about it yet.
I'm the only person, again, who knows.
I don't know.
I knew about Bitcoin at $3.
I don't know what's going on.
I get all these things, like, almost the first person to get it all the time.
I'm just super blessed, I think.
You are!
Even though you're not a proper Christian, God seems to have rewarded you with his blessings.
You know, God's not at the church.
God is inside of you.
And I go with that, God.
That's Gnosticism, which...
One of my very good friends who died recently, he was a Gnostic, Alexander War.
And I loved him very much, and I'm sure he's in heaven.
Which will, of course, piss off a lot of Christians who think Gnosticism is completely evil.
I'm not here to judge.
I'm just here to...
Like you, I'm on a mission to find out what is...
And what isn't?
And there's so much of...
I know what I've got to talk to you about.
I've got to talk to you about, before we forget, weather manipulation.
I mean, isn't it off the scale?
Yeah, before we get into that, I just want to mention that I saw you requesting me to have me on your show.
I actually noticed, I have to apologize a little bit, I don't know a ton about you, but I saw a few of your shows a while ago and I was like, this guy's like a thinker, like he's I won't watch anyone who's, like, not open to thinking about new ideas and stuff.
And then I saw you, like, a year ago or less talking about, I think, Flat Earth or something, and, like, really open to the ideas.
And I was like, oh, this isn't an NPC. He actually has a real human brain that he uses.
So I was quite happy when you invited me on your show because I can see that that's the kind of person you are.
So that's awesome.
Yeah, it's great.
I try not to judge.
Hang on, I'm getting some...
I'm now hearing some echo on your side, which I wasn't hearing before.
Hang on, I'll mute my mic and...
Is it there now?
That's better.
Okay.
No, no, I can hear it again.
Okay, I'll- Um, what are you doing now?
Okay, so I'm going to mute my mic and you talk, and if you don't hear the echo, then I'll just unmute when I talk.
Oh, okay.
That's going to make it quite stilted, but yeah, okay, we'll do that.
Yeah, you get a certain sort of person who's gone down the rabbit hole, And then decides that he's the gatekeeper for which conspiracies are definitely true and which ones are so far beyond the pale that they discredit our cause.
So it's okay to believe that Big Pharma is a menace and that government is out to get you.
But when you start to suggest that Paul McCartney was killed in a car crash as part of a ritual in 1966 or that the earth is flat, people go, you can't go there.
It discredits our cause.
And I'm saying, well, if there's one thing we've learned is that everything we're told is a lie.
So how do you know that Paul is alive is not a lie?
Yeah, absolutely.
I just question everything.
And I look into everything.
And actually, when you look into things, you pretty quickly find out the truth.
It's not that hard.
But what it is, is a lot of people...
This is the apocalypse.
This is the lifting of the veil right now.
And so all these things are coming to light now, and there's a lot of bad things coming to light, like the whole world's controlled by satanic pedophiles.
And then there's a lot of good things that are coming out too, like Tesla's technology is now out, and you actually can access it.
You can have perfect health.
And actually, I think even de-age yourself if you want.
I'm just working on it all right now, but...
A lot of people are having a hard time because the veil's lifting and they're starting to see a few things.
And it starts to scare them because if they didn't know, for example, that 9-11 was done by the U.S. government and they're a big U.S. land of the free and they've been mind-controlled and propagandized their entire lives.
Every football game, they got the flags and everything.
Even that will scare them because...
It basically means that what they believed their whole life wasn't true, and that's scary to them.
And then when you start mentioning other things, like, well, this isn't true, it gets, like, too much for them, and it scares them, because they basically would have to reassess their entire lives, and not a lot of people can do that.
So most people, and this is, well...
Described in the movie The Matrix.
Most people want to stay in The Matrix, and The Matrix is all the lies.
And it's because, you know, they've got their job, too, right?
They've got their plans, their career.
They were told they were supposed to do all this stuff, and, you know, they spent their whole life doing it.
And if you tell them it was all a lie, they didn't have to do any of that stuff, they'd be much better off if they didn't.
And that everything, most things they believe are a lie.
Like a lot of people think they went to the moon like 50 years ago and stuff.
It's like, no, that was a show too.
You're basically living in the true man show.
You're basically in the matrix and everything's a lie.
A lot of people can't handle it.
But for me personally, I don't care.
I just don't care if you can't handle it.
If you can't handle it, turn this interview off.
Turn this video off.
I don't care.
It doesn't make any difference to me.
But I will not.
I'll always just question everything.
And, you know, when I first started questioning everything, it wasn't like I was born this way.
I kind of sensed from a very young age that everything was kind of like screwed up here.
But I couldn't put my finger on it.
But after 9-11, I actually believed the official story of 9-11 for about a year.
And right at the same time the tech stock bubble collapsed and my tech company went from worth hundreds of millions of dollars to almost zero overnight.
And then the book that I read was The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin, which shows how the Federal Reserve was founded.
And I was blown away.
I was like, well, why don't they teach this in the school?
Why wasn't this on the news, right?
And then I saw the documentary Loose Change with 9-11, which basically shows how it was all done by the U.S. government.
And between learning how the Federal Reserve and the money system works and that 9-11 was a complete and total lie...
I basically went down every rabbit hole ever since.
And I still, to this day, am.
I still find new things almost all the time that I was like, oh, I thought that wasn't real either.
But the difference, I think, between me and a lot of people is every single time I found out this information, I was excited.
I was like, okay, yes, I finally am getting the real information.
I knew that this stuff was wrong.
But a lot of people, instead of doing that, will go, oh my gosh, if that's right, then I have to rethink my whole life, and they can't even get their head around it.
So they get fearful, but I get excited when I find out new information.
That's the difference, I think, between myself and a lot of, basically, NPCs, because that's really what they are.
Until they break out of all these programs, then they're just a programmed robot.
And that's what the television programming's for.
It's mind control.
There's mind control on so many levels in this matrix.
And not many people have sort of the ability to want to get out of it.
In fact, many will cling to it.
That's what it says in the matrix.
They're so inured to the system that they will basically try to kill you if you try to show them that it's not real.
Yeah.
I think so many people need a cope.
They need to cling on to something from the old world.
So, for example, when I realised that the entire entertainment industry, the music industry, These people were controlled and they're pushing an agenda, whether it's the Tavistock Institute inventing the Beatles and the Stones or the CIA inventing the West Coast sound.
And people always go, they say, but not Kate Bush.
Surely not Kate Bush.
And you look at it for about five seconds and you go, yep, Kate Bush as well.
Even Kate Bush, lovely Kate, with her Wuthering Heights.
Even Kate Bush with Army Dreamers.
Even lovely Kate Bush with all those hits is, I'm afraid, part of the problem.
And Bowie.
I mean, Bowie, you know, he was so cool.
And he told us about, he warned us about what the internet would do.
But he wasn't doing it because he was a sweet guy.
He was our friend.
He was part of the system as well.
There's nobody.
There's nobody.
There are no white hats.
Yeah, you know, it gets kind of grey when you come down to every single individual.
I think in general...
If you know about someone and they're famous, they have in one way or another sold their soul.
And selling your soul is just basically taking money and doing things that basically you're told.
So we saw a ton of that with this most recent selection with people like Bon Jovi and all these old rock stars coming out to perform for Kamala.
That's That's part of what they have to do.
That's why they got famous.
They know that.
Bob Dylan's actually talked about this very directly.
The chief commander.
That's what you got to do for the big man.
So yeah, that's what most of this stuff is.
I also never really idolized anyone in any way really.
I do enjoy some sports like hockey.
I'm from Canada.
Wayne Gretzky was awesome.
You can't help it, can you?
What's that?
Well, I mean, you're right.
I mean, if you're Canadian, you can't not like ice hockey.
Even if you're a deep conspiracy theorist into crypto, you still can't escape the hockey matrix.
But I never looked at, like, Wayne Gretzky.
Like, I met him once in an elevator, and I just joked around with him.
Like, I didn't go, oh my gosh, it's Wayne Gretzky.
I just have never really been like that.
So, for me, that's not a big problem when I see all these people selling their souls and stuff.
I'm like...
Yeah, that's what they do.
Almost everyone on this earth, by the way, has sold their soul in one way or another.
Even when you're on social media and you don't say what you think is the truth because you're scared you're going to get shadow banned or maybe your friends will mock you or whatever, that's a form of selling your soul.
You're basically not...
Being your true self because you're scared of losing money, of losing relationships, of all these things because you're attached to all these things in the matrix.
But I'm not attached to any of them.
I'm not attached to anything.
I don't idolize anyone.
So for me, all this stuff's quite simple and easy and fun, actually.
I've actually been having the greatest time ever since I've started waking up.
And I should say to people who are starting to wake up, who are scared of waking up, it's actually awesome.
You don't realize that the things that you thought were important and real, that they actually weren't.
But once you realize they aren't, It's super freeing.
I would never want to go back, although I have thought about it, because you do look at a lot of the NPCs, and they're all at their football games, having the time of their lives, and none of it matters.
But they're lost in the Matrix and that sort of a thing.
And you kind of, for a moment, go, I wish I was just one of these ignorant NPCs sometimes, because they can have a good time from time to time and stuff like that.
To get out of it all and become completely free and not attached to anything in this matrix is incredible.
And nothing can really hurt you after that.
Because you become completely...
none of this stuff matters.
Now, you might say, like, why am I talking to you if none of this stuff matters?
And that's something I'm still, like, working myself out with a little bit.
I'm kind of just enjoying being out of the Matrix, but still being in it for a while.
But it's such a better life when you...
Get out of the matrix.
And so I don't know how I can tell that to people.
Like, they'll basically think, well, you know, because a lot of these people, they work at like a job at a bank, for example.
The bank is basically tied to a criminal organization.
If they were going to do what's right, they should stop working at the bank.
And then they think about their pension, which they're not going to get anyway, but they believe they're going to get it.
And then they think, well, I'm just going to keep working there.
It's like, well, you're just selling your soul and staying in the matrix, but it'd be far, far better if they left.
But it's actually a little scary because there's no safety net when you leave.
It's like being an entrepreneur.
It's like quitting your job and becoming an entrepreneur.
It's a very different sort of life.
And I'm, of course, an entrepreneur as well because I don't have any problem with those sort of risks.
But a lot of people do.
And that's sort of, you know, where everyone's at.
And everyone's exactly where they're supposed to be, by the way.
This is all by the grand design of God.
It's the most incredible design.
So you're a Calvinist.
Right.
You believe in predestination.
I tell you...
No.
I'm teasing you.
I would say that every single thing is in the mind of God and pretty much it's It's perfectly designed.
It's so beautifully designed.
You know, just look at the trees.
Look at the animals.
Everything's so perfectly and beautifully designed.
As far as free will and stuff, we don't exist, so there is no free will.
But in this video game, in this dream, we think we exist, and it appears we have free will.
But at the end of the day, there's only one thing, and it's God.
Yeah, you see, it's quite interesting listening to you talk.
And again, I don't want it to be all about this because there's so much we need to talk about.
But so much of what you say I agree with when you talk about the...
The miraculousness of creation.
Whenever I go for a walk, just before this podcast, I was looking out for magic mushrooms in the fields.
The season goes on quite late, although they're quite hard to find.
I think you need to have taken magic mushrooms in order to be able to find them, and then they call to you.
But God has given us this amazing, amazing stuff and the way it's all constructed and fractals and all these things which are almost inexplicable, if they are even explicable.
Where have you gone?
I'm still here, don't worry.
Loading up another bag.
So...
I'm not trying to convert you, but I would say the element that is missing in your life, which I have in my life, is that I know that I was made in God's image.
As were you.
So I see a sense of...
That gives me meaning.
It sort of answers the question of why I'm here.
I'm sort of here for the glory of God, I guess, ultimately.
And that's my kind of duty in return for the miracle of why I've been put here.
Yeah.
But I'm listening to you talk about your view, which is possibly Gnostic or possibly sort of leans towards the Eastern understanding of the world, that you're just part of the infinite oneness, aren't you?
And you're going to go back eventually to that infinite oneness, which is an expression of God.
I mean, what do you think happens when you die?
Does that bother you at all?
Bother me?
No.
I've actually looked forward to it all my life.
I can't wait to see what happens.
But, you know, in general, I think we basically believe in the same thing.
You just have a different sort of thoughts on details about it than I do.
You know, you just said we're all basically creations of God.
And yeah, everything is.
And that's what I believe as well.
I don't Get bogged down with all the details of all these books and stuff.
I don't believe anything that's here in this matrix.
But, you know, if that helps you, then great.
It's not a problem for me.
Yeah.
I think horses are real.
And jumping over a hedge on a horse is real.
It's not real, though.
None of this is real.
No, that would be sad.
Even Jesus would agree with that.
Even religious people would agree with that because basically what they say is that God created us, right, and here on this earth.
And we're here for a time and we have to pass certain tests or whatever, which is kind of like what I think we're probably doing for whatever reason.
And then when we're done, we go up to some awesome place or we go down to some horrible place.
That's basically what I'm saying.
You understand there is an afterlife and you're aware of that and you're quite interested in I mean, if it's hell, it's not going to be much fun, is it?
This life is even real, but there's definitely something 100% real, and it's the only thing that is possible, and that is the creator, the creator of all this.
And it's basically consciousness is what it is.
And it's so massive, so beyond anything that we can even try to comprehend.
But yeah, no, this is...
It's not really real.
This is not real.
It's just like a dream, for example.
You have dreams, right?
Yeah, I do.
When you have those dreams, they seem totally real, right?
At the moment.
Yeah.
I can't really...
I have this sort of...
This fracas, if you like, with David Icke over this.
I think that he's leading people down a wrong path.
In that, it's all very well going.
Yeah, it's all a Matrix and stuff.
And none of it's real.
But, I mean, look at your little boy.
That's not just in your head.
He has an existence of his own.
He is something special.
Yeah, absolutely.
I see basically the creator in him.
It's amazing.
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.
For example, that's why it's brought up dreams.
When you have a dream, in the moment, in the dream, it seems completely real, right?
Yeah.
So where did that dream come from?
Just think about how amazing your mind basically is that it created all that, right?
And you thought it was real.
In fact, it's so real for a lot of people, they'll wake up screaming from like a dream because they thought it was real, right?
So what I'm saying is this is basically just like that.
It's a little bit more persistent.
I think someone called that.
It's a...
More persistent illusion, to some extent.
But it really isn't that real.
It feels real, and don't get me wrong, like, I... When I'm in here, it feels 100% real.
It totally does.
It's incredible.
It's amazing how real it feels.
The horses, my baby, wow.
How amazing is it to see this and to have this love for this?
But at the end of the day, it's just like a dream.
It's going to be over at some point, and then basically you go...
Honestly, I don't know what happens after that, but I assume you go somewhere else and do something else because you are basically in the mind of God.
So Jeff, you've really got to listen to...
Check out some podcasts.
Of my late and much missed friend, Alexander Waugh.
His grandfather was a famous English writer, I don't know if you've heard of, called Evelyn Waugh.
And Alexander's journey...
You know, we all have different entry points, don't we, down the rabbit hole?
The thing that made us realise that the world is not as it seems.
And Alexander's was the realisation that this guy from Stratford called William Shakespeare, this illiterate guy who couldn't even sign his own name properly, he did not write the works credited to William Shakespeare.
They were kind of written by a committee of...
Aristocrats, led probably by the Earl of Oxford.
Anyway, as a sideline to all this, Alexander developed his Gnostic philosophy.
And he thinks that there's a lot of Gnosticism in Shakespeare.
And when you were talking about dreams and stuff, one of Alexander's favourite lines from Hamlet...
Was, oh God, I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams.
So Alexander was of your party.
He felt that the mind is an expression of God and that you can do anything.
And that it's, yeah, so...
I'm fond of Alexander and I'm not here to say you are totally wrong, Jeff.
I mean, who knows?
You could be right.
Because you haven't really said anything that you think I'm wrong.
Hmm.
No.
Well, I'm not.
I'm not going to dispute the possibility that you could be right.
I'm just, at the moment, I'm going with my particular version, which is...
What particular version?
Well, what I found very helpful, I do read the Bible an awful lot, for pleasure.
And...
It's certainly helped inform my understanding of what's going on in the world.
So when you realise, for example, that your government is not your friend, as you say, it's mind control, and it's a criminal-like organisation which is out to kill you at worst, at best to steal your money and your property and stuff.
It's quite a lot to take on at first.
You know, I mean, it's sort of, it is like being hit by a car and, you know, are you ever going to recover from this?
Because will your life ever be the same again?
And then you start going, okay, so things are really this bad.
How do I make sense of it?
And partly you make sense of it by going on this journey of discovery and discovering all those new things that you said earlier on make you quite excited, and I'm with you.
It's really quite fun discovering new things that you realise you thought all along were true and aren't true.
I'm wondering at the moment about penicillin, you know, antibiotics.
I'm thinking...
You know that phrase, everyone says, yeah, you wouldn't want to go back in time with a time machine, not unless you had some penicillin with you and you had some modern dental care.
And you're thinking, well, hang on a second, this could be another psyop.
Why is...
Is penicillin really that good?
We're told it is.
We're told it saved loads of lives in the wars.
But did it?
Maybe...
Anyway.
So you're trying to make sense of the world.
And for me, the Genesis explanation, the biblical explanation, because the New Testament and the Old Testament, they rhyme with each other.
They work perfectly.
They explain stuff.
And they explain...
Why we're here, who the bad guys are, and what the end result is.
Now the end result, luckily for my side, is that the good guys win, so that's cool.
But they also explain who the bad guys are and why they do what they do.
And the bad guys are very simply the descendants of the fallen angels who rebelled against God.
Who bred with humans, with the Son of Man, to form this kind of quasi-reptilian, yeah, I don't know how much reptile they got in them, but essentially this kind of...
These people, this strain of humanity, which saw it as their mission and sees it as their mission to displace God and create their own version of paradise on earth, which is essentially what we're living in now, and it's not paradise on earth, it's actually hell on earth.
And they seduce people into what I would call the beast system, you know, what you described as selling your soul.
And in return for worldly wealth, trinkets, sex, drugs, satisfying every perverse desire, ambition, greed...
In turn, they get the baubles of this world.
They lay out for themselves treasures on earth, not in heaven, which is why Christians are enjoined to think about the afterlife rather than...
to think about heaven rather than earth.
It's sort of...
I find it intellectually consistent, because as you've already sussed, I'm not one of those people who goes, yeah, well, the authorities tell me this, so it must be true.
I'm thinking, well, hang on a second.
What I like about the Bible argument is that it's intellectually consistent and fairly coherent.
So that gives me an understanding of who we are, why we're here, who the bad guys are, why the world is so messed up.
You see what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
I generally agree with all that.
I actually call scripture, script-ture, because I think it's basically a script for what's going on in this matrix.
So it's an Easter egg or a little hint to a lot of people of what's really going on, and I generally agree.
Reptilian, they're not human.
Might be Nephilim, whatever you want to call them.
But none of it's actually real.
It's the only thing that I maybe think a little differently than you on.
But in general, we basically agree that this world is like...
Or even how it's created, right?
So you said creation.
So God created the world.
That's what I'm saying.
This whole thing is a creation of God.
It's all in the mind of God.
So we really don't disagree too much.
Are you trying to convince me of something, for example?
Like, for example, I get this sometimes from some people that they're like, Jeff, you got most of it, but you're missing one thing.
You have to put Jesus in your heart.
Is that what you're trying to do?
No, I don't do that.
No, I'm just curious.
I'm just asking because, you know, even if you did, I would say, well, everything's in my heart.
You know, I actually think a lot of those things have been kind of put out there to mislead.
The true story of Jesus, for example, I've read the East Seen Gospels.
That was not included in the Bible for some reason.
Yeah, the Gnostic Gospels, the ones that were found in a pot by some Arabs.
Yeah, I don't even, but what I read in that is pretty much like, I'm like down with that.
Like fasting, meditation, that's basically what Jesus was talking about, if that's true.
But I don't think any of it's true or real.
Anything, including yourself, including myself, we're in a basically a not base reality for whatever reason.
And yes, maybe we put ourselves into it, and if we do bad things, we have to come back and go through other stuff, or you could do that in a hell sort of a place, you know, different dimensional sort of things.
I'm not sure of all the details, but I'm sure of only one thing, and there's only one thing that, even on a rational or logical level, makes sense, that this is all the creation of one consciousness.
And then the details is part of the fun of being in it, in my opinion.
I mean, I get the vibe that you are essentially a good person.
I'm just wondering where you think you're the moral...
I mean, in your version of spirituality, if you like, or understanding of the world, where does the moral dimension come from?
Is it sort of natural law or what?
What's to stop you behaving really badly in your belt and show?
For me personally?
I have no interest in behaving badly.
I've noticed that everything bad in life happens when you do bad things.
Even just not, as I was saying earlier, not speaking your truth.
For example, If we were really to live much better, we wouldn't say, hi, how are you?
And the person wouldn't always say, good.
They'd actually say how they're feeling.
It saves time.
We might get stuck in some really boring conversations about people's ailments.
Come on.
It's a form of politeness.
Sure.
But what I'm saying is that...
What was the question again?
Because I kind of lost my train of thought on the question.
Oh, I like it when we lose our train of thought.
I can't remember.
Don't forget, I've got the excuse of having concussion.
You haven't got that one.
My excuse is I live in flow state, and basically once it's gone from my head, I'm in a different spot until I come back to somewhere else.
Oh, above morality, yes.
So why don't I do things that are bad?
Do I want to go out on the street and steal some old lady's purse?
That's horrible.
Why would I ever do that?
That poor old lady just having a decent day, and what, do I need the stuff that's in her purse?
No, none of that stuff matters.
So that's for me personally why I don't do those things.
And I've heard people say, well, people need religion because otherwise they'll do bad things.
Maybe that's the case.
It's not the case for me personally.
Oh, I think that's a...
I've realized for me personally that whenever I do and give and am the most perfect sort of way, everything perfect comes my way.
When I do something that's kind of like...
I've never really stolen...
I actually have, I should be totally honest.
When I was like...
11, I stole a chocolate bar from a gas station.
I still feel bad about it.
That makes me feel bad.
I mostly just do what feels right to me.
The other thing is, though, there seems to be a lot of people in this matrix or earth or whatever you want to call it that are very evil sort of people.
To them, it feels good to do evil stuff.
Does it, though?
I don't really.
I don't really see it as people need...
Well, I don't really know.
Everyone needs whatever they need.
If people need a book for them to do good things so that they have a better life and everyone around them has a better life...
Because every single thing you do has a reaction.
That's for sure.
You can call it karma or whatever.
Karma just means action.
So...
If I go and do something, I make someone have a bad day, that person's gonna go and give their whole family a bad day the rest of the day.
That'll eventually come back around to basically me in one way or another.
So that's just how I look at things.
Yeah.
I think that the people who've said to you, who've come up with this argument that we need religion because of morality, I think they've got the wrong end of the stick.
I'm not thinking we must all become Christians because otherwise we behave badly.
It's more that I see that the scriptures as a way of...
Understanding the world and our place in it.
So, for example, it's...
It describes the matrix exactly how I'm describing it, so I agree.
It's definitely a good way for some people to get a better understanding of what's actually happening here.
Okay, but just going to...
Okay, this matrix that was created by God...
It's not just some random game where he's just gone, I'm going to make this game that everyone can participate in, and the rules are just like, anything goes.
You said yourself, and I had a similar experience by the way, I once, at my prep school, I once stole some tuck from the tuck shop.
And I still feel the shame to this day.
I didn't enjoy those sweets when I... You know, even those sweets were rationed.
It was like being in coldets in my prep school.
Or if they had...
I don't know whether they had sweets.
Yeah, they did.
They had Red Cross packages in coldets, didn't they?
But...
No.
I still feel bad about it.
And I... I would just question your statement that you think maybe the evil people enjoy being evil.
I don't think...
Even Bill Gates, I think, when he flies off to Epstein Island to do whatever he did on Epstein Island, even then I think that whatever pleasure...
What he took out of the foul things he probably did was tinged with an understanding that what he was doing there, it didn't make him feel good.
That's my theory.
I think that we've all got a moral conscience.
Well, Dave or any of these people, I can see how they've ended up where they are.
They were probably massively abused as children.
Oh, definitely.
That's part of the deal.
Yeah, and probably like MK Mind Control, basically tortured and mind controlled.
They are like...
I actually don't think anyone's evil, just so you know.
I think they're just all massively, massively damaged.
And basically...
As those things happen to you, you need to do certain things to kind of feel happy because of what you've been programmed or traumatized into.
But I agree with you.
I don't actually think anyone is naturally born or becomes evil.
They just...
What happens with a lot of people, in my opinion, is they get more and more removed from God, basically.
And they lose the connection.
And then they become where they want all these other things to try to make themselves happy because they've lost that connection.
Yeah.
I think it's like Hollywood stars.
When you can get all the sex you want all the time on tap, It becomes boring after a while and then you start seeking niche perversions to satisfy your desire for the weird and forbidden.
So that happens.
But just very briefly, because I really want to talk to you about weather manipulation.
It seems to me that this, the creator who's, you know, we agree there is a God and he created us.
He gave us a moral conscience for a reason.
We know the difference between good and bad.
We can feel it.
Now, why did he do that unless he had a particular purpose for us?
Because we know that good is good and bad is bad and we...
We know that we ought to incline towards the good.
Now, what does that tell us about God and the way he is?
Well, to me, whatever the creator is, is beyond perfection, right?
Beyond anything we can imagine.
And obviously, I think when I look at this life and this matrix that we have, we have to kind of see bad things, because otherwise we won't know what bad or good is.
And that's kind of what that whole story about Adam and Eve and the snake and stuff is, right?
Yeah.
If everything in this matrix was always perfect, we would never even know that it was perfect because everything is a duality here in this matrix.
But I'm not sure what you're trying to get to with this, but obviously God is beyond perfection, beyond anything we can imagine of the good, basically.
Because there couldn't be Well, I'm thinking about it now.
There couldn't be...
No.
There's only one thing that can exist when you really think about it.
And that is one creator of everything.
And that thing cannot be evil because that thing doesn't live in duality.
It's creating these things for us to have these experiences for whatever reason.
And it's just basically a...
A experience for us because we can actually do anything.
That's what God can do anything.
So you could create a trillion different universes if you wanted.
That's how incredible the Creator is.
Yeah, so I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at there.
No, no.
I think the problem almost is that there is actually so much we agree on that I'm not really finding myself bumping at the edges of your argument at the way I would be were you sort of more...
Look, I suppose the danger of that we're all living in a giant video...
It removes the element of meaning and purpose from our lives, and I don't think you actually believe that, because The fact that we have a moral sense indicates to me, logically, that God has given us a purpose, which is not just to kind of try out random shit and yeah, I'll have sex with my cat and see whether that's fun or not.
I agree with you.
When I use the 3D video game analogy, it's just an analogy of trying to describe what this is.
And it's interesting that you pose the question of the danger of this analogy.
So you definitely perceive it as being a dangerous way of looking at things.
And I've actually thought about that.
I thought about, because a lot of people are really screwed up in this world.
They've been screwed up and, you know, all the trauma they've gone through and all that sort of stuff.
If everyone thought this was a 3D video game, it could get pretty crazy here.
Because...
A lot of them don't care, and they don't see that much sort of soul or goodness inside of them.
So if they know this isn't really real, they'll probably do insane, crazy stuff.
It'll be just chaos.
So I see what you're saying.
And I'm not going out there telling everyone in the world this is a 3D video game.
I'm just walking with my dogs and mentioning it, and a few people on BitSheet are watching it.
So that's about the extent of it for me.
Cotamundis.
They're called Cotamundis.
What?
You know?
They've got Cotamundis.
They've got stripy tails.
Never even heard of them.
Do you not get them in your part of Mexico?
That's what you think of when you think of Mexico.
I've never heard the word.
I've never seen them.
Maybe they're only in Australia.
No one drinks it, but everyone thinks that's what everyone drinks.
Well, look, I still kind of envy you a bit, that.
Do you think that, I mean, given what we both know about the state of the world, and given that they seem to be closing in on us, is anywhere going to be safe?
From their clutches.
I mean, Mexico has just installed a new president who is obviously an Israeli asset or obviously a World Economic Forum asset, whereas previously you've been kind of free of that, haven't you?
Well, the way I look at things is everything's going to go exactly perfectly.
For whatever the entire way it's all laid out.
So I'll be in whatever situation I'm supposed to be in for whatever reason to learn this or that or to see if I can overcome it because it's kind of like the Truman Show.
So I don't really worry about anything.
Although it's kind of funny because I talk in my videos all the time about how bad things are getting and you know what you can do that might make your life a bit better.
But in general, everything's going to be just perfect for every single person.
And you might say, yeah, but what if I'm in a concentration camp?
Then that's what you're supposed to be in for whatever reason.
The more you worry about those things happening, the more you'll actually create them, in my opinion.
So I don't really worry about anything, but I do see the way the world's going, and I see how people are living.
There's so many better ways to kind of live than I see a lot of people living.
I wouldn't live in a major city in the West anymore.
It's just not going the right direction.
It's not going to be great.
All the worst sort of people are all gravitating to all these areas.
All I can say is what I'm doing personally, and I'm basically in the mountains right now on a Starlink, which is Elon Musk, and he's going to use that to control all the lethally injected people using their graphene.
It's kind of funny, but I'm using it for the internet right now.
I've got, you know, grow all my own food, got all my own water, got all my own sources of power generation, and I mostly just meditate with a Tesla machine every day, and that's what I'm doing, and it's great.
It sounds to me like you, because you said you're kind of envious of me, that you are kind of feeling like you might not be totally happy where you are.
Is that right?
Well, okay, so there's a number of things that It's not just about me.
I mean, if I were a single man, I would be able to go, yeah, whatever, I'm going to go and live in Costa Rica and watch resplendent Quetzals all day.
And Cotamundis, obviously.
Take a photo for me, I've never seen one.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Well, you have to Google it.
They're great.
I mean, you'd be disappointed that you haven't got them, although they are quite intrusive.
I think they'll be all over your garden, eating your carrots or whatever, if you weren't careful.
So, I cannot decide on my own where I live.
But the second thing is that I look at the world.
Okay, so do you remember how...
Maybe you never had this when you were growing up, but...
One always used to imagine that when it all kicked off, when the world went completely to shit, there was always New Zealand.
You could always go to New Zealand and New Zealand would be verdant and lots of space and sheep and honest farming folk and it's going to be great.
And then what happened during lockdown?
During the whole fake pandemic, they took out New Zealand.
This no-nonsense country full of these people, Kiwis, who don't take any shit.
Suddenly, most of them caved, didn't they?
I mean, they caved.
They had this man pretending to be a woman Put in charge.
Jacinda Horseface, this crack addict.
And she said, you know, we're going to track you down.
And so suddenly...
This land of escape, this escape route was closed off.
And I used to look, for example, I think there was nowhere more beautiful in the world than England, parts of England.
I mean, okay, Colombia.
I love Colombia.
All shades of green.
It's great.
I love it.
I've been to many...
But England in May, in the countryside, it's really, really, really hard to beat.
But...
What have they done?
They've put up these wind turbines which pollute the atmosphere with low frequency noise that completely mess with your head, mess with your electronic signals, just designed to mess you up.
And they've taken our weather away from us.
They've taken our sun away from us.
And it's not just happening in England, it's happening in your country as well.
It's everywhere, isn't it?
Tell me a bit about what's going on, because I'm up to speed on chemtrails more or less, but what about HAARP and what about NEXRAD? Do you know about this stuff?
Oh yeah, I had to learn firsthand.
Acapulco, where I have a place and we have our event in Acapulco, which actually I'd like to invite you to speak at if you're interested at all.
Totally.
Sorry?
Yeah.
Oh, great.
We'll talk after this.
It's coming up in February, just so you know.
It got hit by two massive weather weapons, like, for sure weather weapons, because it was a Category 5 hurricane that no one in the entire city even knew there was a hurricane.
Like, not even any hurricane coming.
And at night it hit a Category 5. It was actually a giant tornado, really, is what it was.
And then they hit it again just two months ago with a Category 3 surprise that came out of the blue again.
It wasn't too bad, but then it went back out in the ocean and reformed and then came back in again, which has never happened, and flooded the entire town.
So they're hitting it pretty hard.
The thing I'll say is...
They haven't done anything to stop myself or Acapulco or even the people of Acapulco.
We actually helped save the city both times with hundreds of thousands of dollars of donations.
So I'm kind of getting to the point that, no, you can't hide hardly anywhere from this.
I think in the Bible or the apocalypse sort of part of it, they talk about, you know, there's nowhere to hide.
You end up in a cave somewhere, maybe.
We'll see what happens.
Anything can happen in this reality that people think is real.
I'm open to anything.
But the one thing I've found is if you just keep doing the right things, and if you keep connected to God, you will be given...
For example, I'll give you an example.
My wife is incredibly connected with God.
And she was praying a year and a half ago.
And she said, okay, we're going to go to Acapulco in October.
And she got this hard no from God.
She came to me, she's like, I've never gotten anything like this before.
It's like, no.
And she even asked why.
And she kind of got the message that a very dark energy was going to hit Acapulco.
So we weren't there for the first hurricane.
And if we were, it was incredibly bad.
But she actually said she had a vision and all the houses around us would be destroyed.
This is before it even hit, by the way.
And our house would be totally fine.
And so I said, okay, great.
And then it happened.
And that actually happened.
All the houses down below us just destroyed.
If you were in those houses, you would have died.
Most of them use it as vacation houses and they weren't there.
October is a very not vacation month.
But My point is, stay just connected to God and listen to whatever you want to call it, what you're told, what your intuition is, the signs around you.
They're all around you all the time.
You just have to see them.
And you will end up where you're supposed to be, and you'll be basically okay.
But we're never always going to be okay.
We're all going to die.
So there's no point in even really worrying about it.
But I can tell that you've been thinking about it.
It sounds like you've got a family.
I would say trust your intuition.
Pray a lot and see what comes to you and see what signs get sent to you.
I get them sent all the time.
Like, it'll just pop up on my computer screen, like, the next day when I'm, like, really asking or really, you know, in meditation or prayer or just, you know, what should I do about this?
The next day, it just pops up.
But the thing is, most people won't see it.
Or if they do see it, they'll go, ah, that's crazy.
And they won't do it.
So...
It's kind of interesting because I started the Dollar Vigilante in 2010 and I've been saying for a long time, get out of the West.
Things like New Zealand and all those places.
And everyone's like, you're crazy.
New Zealand's going to be fine.
I'm like, I don't think so.
And because I can see what they're doing.
And I've been asked the question, where should I go?
Thousands of times.
And I've never been really...
I'm comfortable in answering it because I don't know those people.
I'd have to know every single thing about you to give you the best advice possible.
But now I'm super happy because I've realized that the best advice I can give is to just make sure you're incredibly connected to the Creator and listen to the signs and listen to your intuition.
And even if it sounds crazy, like Max Egan, he left Australia.
Two days before they locked it down and they wouldn't let anyone leave because he got an intuition, because he's quite connected in various ways, to get out of Australia.
And he said, it sounded crazy to me, but he packed up all this stuff and left and he came to Mexico.
He ended up in Acapulco, which is kind of interesting.
Two days later, they locked down his jail.
And then we found out they're going to frame him on a thing to put him in jail.
He got told that by people who know some cops.
So he just listened to his intuition.
And that's what Max always does.
And he's always in the right place.
He was not in Acapulco for either of the hurricanes as well.
Neither was I, because we're quite connected.
We listen to the signs around us that are sent to us from the Creator.
That's my advice to you, is to really pray about it, since that sounds like how you approach God.
Really pray and ask, and be very aware of what signs you see And even if they sound a little crazy, if it feels right in your gut, I would suggest that you consider it because it's probably a sign of that's where you're supposed to be.
And who knows?
Maybe you're supposed to be in England, right?
Yeah.
Who could possibly know?
I think that's...
Well, apart from anything else, that's really good advice.
And it is actually what I try to do, but you just...
It's very hard to separate the signal from the noise.
Raise your second guess yourself.
You'll know if you've got a real signal because you'll feel it.
You'll go, this seems right.
Don't listen to your mind because your mind will always go, that's crazy.
What, move to Costa Rica and the weather weapons are going to hit you there anyway and all this kind of stuff.
You'll know.
But most people will not listen to that knowing.
So, you apparently have not gotten that yet.
You've not gotten that exact knowing.
You'll know when it hits you, and it will hit you if you just keep asking.
I think I'll do that.
I think that's some brilliant advice there, Geoff.
Well, we could sort of...
I think we could end it...
there.
And do another podcast sometime and do all the shit that we've forgotten that we should have talked about and didn't.
This is kind of my introduction to Jeff Berwick, for people who haven't encountered you yet.
And, well, the...
The Acapulco thing sounds cool.
Although, I'm thinking they're going to target with another hurricane, aren't they?
They're going to get their evil...
The Nexrad machines are going to be...
Well, they've been trying that for years, just so you know.
But most of the people involved in Narcapulco, not everyone, but like my wife, for example, and the people at the Secret Garden, they're all highly spiritual people.
And they pray and meditate and all those things for safety of the event, just so you know.
And we've never had any real problem at the event ever, even despite all these things.
So, from that perspective, I can say that, so far, we've managed to keep them at bay.
They've hit us with everything.
We actually got hit in Arcapulco when Ron Paul was just about to step on stage in 2018, I think it was.
Or 2019, I can't remember.
A seven point something earthquake hit Acapulco, right as he was about to step on stage.
If you know anything about earthquakes, a seven is unbelievably huge.
It usually will destroy most things in the city.
It didn't destroy anything in the city.
All the buildings swayed like this.
But hardly anything got damaged.
There was a few cracks and stuff like that, but no deaths, no nothing.
So far, we've managed to...
They've hit us with two weather weapons since then.
No problem.
We ran the event both times.
They also hit the world with the COVIDs in 2020 to 2023, basically.
And most events everywhere in the world all canceled, but we didn't.
And we ran it just fine.
So, you know...
They're doing all these things and they will continue to do them.
But if you're in the right space, you will likely be protected for whatever reason for your role in this video game.
So the one thing I would just suggest as a final sort of thing is just don't worry because What you worry about, you will attract because it's all energy in this video game.
So if you're focused on worry, you've probably seen this with so many people.
I've seen it with so many people.
Whenever they're always worried, all these bad things always happen to them.
And I never worry and nothing ever really happens to me, although a lot of things have happened to me, but I'm still here, still fine.
Yeah.
So just don't worry and listen to basically God.
Well, it's funny.
It's funny.
Your advice is so similar to the advice given in the Bible, which continually enjoins you, enjoins the reader.
Do not be afraid.
It's the most common injunction in the Bible.
Do not be afraid.
So we're pretty much on the same page.
Yeah.
I'd say.
Yeah.
It's been great talking to you.
Where do people find you, find your stuff?
Well, we have a financial newsletter called The Dollar Vigilante, which is way more than a financial newsletter.
We also talk about expatriation every month, twice a month.
We talk about different places you can move.
We interview people who are like-minded, libertarian-type people, freedom-minded people, spiritual people.
We have that in the newsletter as well.
You can just go to dollarvigilante.com.
We also have all our videos at vigilante.tv, including yours, James.
I added you after I saw a couple of your shows.
I was like, this guy is right up my alley.
He actually thinks.
Most people don't.
I'm out there.
No, you're in there.
Everyone else is out there.
So yeah, you can go to vigilante.tv.
I do my videos with my dog and my baby a few times a week usually.
And then we have our event coming up in February in Acapulco called Anarchapulco.
Which is all kinds of freedom and spiritual minded people.
Amazing event that hopefully James will talk later and maybe you can come to.
So that's just at narcopoco.com and it's hard to spell but A-N-A-R-C-H-A-P-U-L-C-O.com.
You can rewind if you need to go back.
Oh, and I'll just mention too, this Tesla machine is incredible, and we're going to have it at Anarchapoco, and it heals everything and gives you incredible energy.
It basically takes the plasma out of the air, just like Nikola Tesla did, and pumps it into you, and it's basically God energy is what it is.
So you can meditate or pray with it, and it's like next level sort of a thing.
We'll have it at Anarchapoco, and if you want to get one, you can get one at tzla.club, and that's about it.
Okay, that's great.
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You know you like all my stuff.
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And thank you very much again, Jeff.
Bear it, because you really ought to be pronounced.
Really.
Come on.
And, by the way, I'm not coming, but my rider is that there must be Cotamundis wandering around the grounds.
I want to see their cheeky little faces.
Okay.
With their little ears.
I can't remember whether they've got ears or not.
Maybe they don't have ears.
Yeah, they must do, mustn't they?
They're like kind of stripy otter creatures.
Sound cool.
I'm going to look into it.
Yeah, you look it up.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you, Geoff.
That's great.
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