American comedian, actor and self-sufficiency advocate, Owen is banned from a multitude of platforms for speaking out about evil social agendas and child abuse. He joins James from his Idaho homestead to discuss fake panda's, Antarctica, the corrupt Hollywood / comedy industries, the Plandemic and how evil operates and how we can fight it.https://owenbenjamin.com
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Welcome to the DellingPod, Owen Benjamin.
I am excited, actually.
Oh, thanks for having me.
It's an honor.
I just retweeted one of you in Box Day's conversations about the dark is rising.
That was awesome.
Ah, yeah, yeah, that was weird that we should be doing Vox and you, like, only a week apart.
That's almost...
Yeah.
It's like spoiling, I think, spoiling the viewers, but there it is.
I'm a generous kind of guy.
Is that coffee or tea?
Tea, yeah.
I thought you changed sides.
I thought you hopped over the pond there and started doing the coffee.
No, no, I've actually just been in Italy.
I'm drinking loads of coffee because I was with my daughter and the fantastic thing about going on to Italy with your daughter is that every hour you stop for another cappuccino and a cigarette.
And I mean, I couldn't keep up.
I could not maintain the smoking required, but it was good.
You don't need to persuade the other person that you need another coffee.
That's so funny.
Vox would always talk about that, about the various stages of Italian history.
It's like history under Mussolini, and it's just ciao.
And then history under, you know, it's like no matter what the government was, I'm butchering the joke, they're always just smoking and saying ciao and sitting on a Vespa.
Like nothing really changes for Italians.
I think that's probably true.
I mean, you know, as well as being a joke, it's actually a true thing.
It's funny because it's true.
The Italians just, like, you go there and you just think, I want to live here.
I want to eat really good Food.
And pasta, when it's done well, is really, really good.
And their pizza is not like the kind of deep pan shit you get in Chicago or anything.
It's got a nice crispy thing.
Yeah, no, no.
That's like where I live is like that too.
Strong cultures don't, you know, the political environment and all that, it doesn't really matter.
North Idaho, it's...
You know, people are growing food, shooting guns, hanging out, doesn't matter what's going on.
In every era, things don't really change that much.
I mean, and I find that very comforting.
But you know what?
You are better off in Idaho than you would be in Italy.
I was thinking about this.
I mean, Idaho is where you go, isn't it?
With your horse and your guns and your whatever, you know, your gold and your smallholding.
You're going to survive the apocalypse.
But Italy, for all its...
You think about the Dolce Vita and yeah, cigarettes, cigarettes and coffee and yeah, we don't care.
When it came down to it, you look at how that country behaved during the fake pandemic.
They went all in.
They were locked in their homes for weeks on end.
They were given sort of special ration time where they were allowed to come down to the coffee shop.
Well, no, I'm assuming that the coffee shop was closed.
So all the things that we admire about the Italians, when push came to shove, they completely failed.
Yeah, yeah.
Was it a city?
Was it rural too?
Or was it just cities?
I know Rome and some of those places were total nightmares.
But if you went out into rural Italy, were they also totally buying in?
I wasn't there.
I've got a friend who is a journalist who does live out in Italy.
And I don't think he gave a very...
His account of his time in that period did not make me think, I should move to Italy.
That's the only thing stopping me.
Otherwise, just what's not to like?
It's just great.
Yeah, Italy is beautiful, especially Northern Italy.
It's so beautiful.
I mean, I like England too.
I mean, in my new special, I make fun of British trains a lot.
And last time I was there, the lack of effort when a train was delayed, like that no one even thought that anyone had anywhere to go, I thought was remarkable.
But kind of like the final stage of socialism.
I thought it was very funny.
I'd be like, when's the next train?
They're like, we don't know.
People make fun of my accent.
Apparently, I don't do it as well as I thought I did.
It's kind of like a Chris Martin, just kind of like Eeyore, you know, like Eeyore with a little more sadness.
I don't think Americans, apart from Christopher Guest in Spinal Tap...
He was good.
You know, Nigel Plain.
But then, you see, he is, I think he's the honourable Christopher Guest.
I think he's got some, he's related to some sort of English bloodline.
Yeah.
I think the guy who played, the bearded guy, is it Mike Mc...
I mean, Spinal Tap got it right, but mostly we think, when we watch American TV, if we still do, we think of...
Well, Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins.
Really, really shit Cockney accent.
We think of the guy who was supposed to be Daphne's brother in Frasier.
Oh yeah, yeah, Niles.
You ever look into Frasier's, you ever look into Kelsey Grammer's life?
No, tell me, tell me.
Okay, so this is all mainstream.
This isn't me just...
You can find this out on his Wikipedia.
His father and his sister were both murdered.
And his father was murdered by a guy whose last name was Niles.
And his brother allegedly was murdered by a guy named George.
Or no, Freddy.
And he named his brother Niles and his dog or his son Freddy on both of his shows.
And I just found that very bizarre and dark.
But do you think so?
That sounds like a fairly standard Hollywood upbringing to me.
I didn't realize this before, but now I've gone down the rabbit hole like you have.
And I'm thinking, these people are really, really weird.
They're drinking children's blood.
They've made a pact with the devil.
They don't have passport.
Who's the one who doesn't even have a birth certificate?
Is it...
Jack Nicholson or one of those?
There's a lot of them.
I mean, I was going to cover Christian Bale today, and his life is so weird.
Like, his father married Gloria Steinem, and he's from a circus, and he moved every year for...
It just reeks of MKUltra vibes, where it's just like really broken...
People just doing really weird shit.
And I think the stand-up comedian is almost like the day walker in that environment.
Because we're almost like the...
You know, like the...
What are they called?
Who is the leader that...
The leader of that group that Jimmy Hoffa...
Oh, Teamsters.
We're almost like the Teamsters of entertainment.
We're just there to do a job and we have a craft.
And we fit in with the stars, kind of, but we're not like them at all.
And so that really allowed me to see it and then leave.
Because...
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is the problem.
We've actually moved on to the money shot stage.
I was going to do a bit of foreplay first, you know, working up to this, because that's kind of what I wanted to find out, what you saw and what you knew.
But so, well, imagine we haven't had that money shot moment, and we'll just go back.
I don't know whether, you know, I'm famous for my deep dive research on all the people I have in my podcast.
I found an article, which I'm sure you'd recommend, or you did recommend, called From Hollywood Actor to Dangerous Conspiracy Theorist.
Yeah, that just came out.
That's really funny.
To the point where at first I thought it was like a fan of mine.
It's so over the top that I thought it was comedy and it's not.
They're dead serious.
And so if you read the article, it was the trans kid thing is what...
What made me the outcast?
And I was, you know, repped at CIA. I was a lead of a sitcom.
I had book deals with the publisher of Guns, Germs and Steel.
You know, it wasn't like I was this peripheral figure.
I was a...
Quite a well-known comedian.
Movies and Leno and Fallon and specials.
I was always a live and let live guy.
I've never been very controlling about other people's behavior.
I don't think children can consent to anything.
When they were normalizing the trans thing with kids, something just snapped in me.
It's almost like when the lights go on at a bar at 2 in the morning and you're like, where the hell am I? And that happened, and that started me down the road of just really understanding what Hollywood is and how it's about.
I saw that you retweeted the social programming Edward Bernays thing with Dave Chappelle and why they don't let you off the reservation with comedy.
Although you can, it just is hard.
I'm doing it now, but...
So that's kind of what happened to me.
And it's been a blessing.
It really has been a blessing.
But, you know, I could be there and not part of that because I'd always be at the improv.
You know, I was on the show Punk'd with Ashton Kutcher and...
All that stuff early on, but I would never go to a party.
I was in a movie, The House Bunny, with Anna Faris, where I was the butler of the Playboy Mansion, but I've never been to a Playboy party.
I didn't go to parties.
I didn't associate with these people.
I do stand-up every night and hang out with smart, strange people at the bar.
And that's how I could be there and not in it.
And then once I saw...
It's a lot like how we're talking about Italy.
The real evil of Hollywood amongst most of the people I knew wasn't even that they were doing anything.
It's that they were okay with it.
Like, no matter what the next level would say, they would just be like, oh, that's good now.
That's good now.
That's who we are now.
They had no self.
And so that was...
Crazy.
I've never seen anyone eat a baby or anything like that.
No, of course you haven't.
Yeah, exactly.
Because you didn't go to the parties, but you would have done.
Right, right.
Let's say someone said it's okay to eat babies.
I know people that would go with that.
There's no limit.
And so because of that, I was like, I can't raise a family here.
We left.
And I never looked back.
Yeah, but I don't think you realise, I mean you do half realise, how unusual you are.
That you've probably got about as close to the edge without jumping over it as anyone.
Because the level of fame you achieved, I would say, is probably about as far as you're allowed to get famous before you go through the ritual and pay your due obeisance to the Dark Lords and stuff.
Wouldn't you say?
I mean, it's a pretty scary thought.
Yeah, I mean...
There's definitely a limit.
There's definitely a line where you're not given a lot of influence unless you're in some form of contract, in my opinion.
And I never...
Yeah, you're right.
I never...
I surfed that line completely unaware.
It's almost like walking amongst lions...
And you're just eating an apple and you just don't even realize where you are.
And the thing for me was I didn't understand the purpose of it.
I didn't understand the purpose of social engineering, normalization.
I didn't understand how important consciousness is when it comes to all domestic and foreign policy and the financial system and wars.
Now I can see a lot of that stuff, but in the past, I just thought it was whoever's the funniest.
I really was naive to that.
It was like my mom was a children's literature professor, and she was naive to academia until she started seeing what was going on with their agendas.
She just thought it was about teaching books.
And then she kind of went through a similar process.
It was interesting.
It's great having parents who are awake.
Maybe we'll go to that in a bit.
But, you know, I had a sort of analogous career to yours in that I reckon I got about as far as you can in journalism or as a kind of writer without making the pact.
And I spent all my early life or, you know, my sort of mainstream career thinking, why aren't I more famous?
I'm really okay at writing.
I'm as good at writing as anybody.
And I'm quite funny and, you know, I'm clever and all this shit.
And I was thinking, so why haven't I been given the golden ticket?
And I reckon that...
Did somebody invite me to something one day and I didn't go?
Or was I not picking up the signs?
Did you ever get approached?
No, I think it's a vibe.
I think it's like...
And I was just tweeting about this yesterday.
And you're very well known.
That's the irony.
A lot of the guys that get led under the dragon's wing, they're forgettable.
They don't really have that connection to their audience like someone like you has.
When I was saying that I'm doing your stream, people got pumped.
They're like, oh, I love that guy.
And think about how many mainstream journalists don't have genuine love from their audience at all.
I think it's...
The willingness to sell out your own audience is the thing that people can read.
Because I was tweeting about that.
I'm like, people think it's this accomplishment when the entertainer or the journalist gets this giant obscene deal.
And that's actually when they sell out their audience.
And a lot of it is to...
A certain type of advertiser or sponsor, like right now in comedy, it's gambling, where it's trying to get a young audience addicted to gambling.
Literally, that's what it is now.
There are these gambling sites, and every podcast is just like...
Oh, promo code to gamble this weekend on football or a casino in your pocket.
And that is, if you're the type of person that isn't willing to do that, they can smell that and they don't want you.
Because the whole purpose is to sell the poison.
That's where they make all the money.
They don't make it in selling...
Newspapers or magazines or blogs or comedy.
You can make a good living doing that, but I'm not worth $50 million.
I'm just not.
But when you look at some of these comics getting $200 million, and they're not paid for their jokes.
They're paid for the social engineering to sell a much more valuable poison, like gambling or drugs.
Yeah.
Well...
Of your contemporaries, how have they all done?
I mean, some of them must have sold their souls and done really well, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, a lot of the guys I was doing open mics with, and even just right before COVID, that were just kind of working comics, you know, like people that, like a Burt Kreischer or a Bobby Lee or...
I don't know, like that whole crew of guys, they now are making, they're doing stadiums.
You know, they were just given, like, oh, now you're a stadium act.
And it's not based on their talent.
And people like us sometimes could be called haters.
Oh, you're just jealous.
Oh, you're just jealous.
I'm like, dude, he takes off his shirt, gets drunk and screams and literally shits his pants sometimes.
I'm like, that's a guy that should potentially be in an insane asylum.
Like, that's not high-level comedy.
But if the people that went along with COVID, I saw they got rewarded a lot financially, and I'm not allowed to rent out a house on Airbnb.
I'm not allowed Vimeo, Venmo, PayPal, YouTube, you know, because I was so aggressively against it to the point where I've learned more not to necessarily, you know, rub it in the beast's face.
Like, you can be against something, but I was very brash and very...
Just mocking the whole thing.
And so I was financially punished to the point where, yeah, like I had a rental property under my wife's name with a 4.9 stars and we got kicked off.
Like we couldn't even rent out a house, let alone I couldn't tour.
I couldn't do any of this stuff.
So, you know, I'm American.
Yeah, but I'm like, you know, my ancestors dealt with worse.
So, yeah.
I used the P.O. Box.
I got my audience to rally.
We got a little piece of land.
We do festivals on it.
That's why the new special at OwenBenjamin.com just came out.
That was shot on our own land with no debt.
With our own audience, growing our own food, you know?
Because the control mechanism is comforts and privileges.
It's not necessarily force.
Sometimes people get this thought that they force you, but really it's like, you can't use our systems, you can't use our comforts, and we'll call you names.
And I'm, you know...
I'm fine with that.
I can just take it.
I'm from a pretty rough environment growing up.
I'm just not as susceptible to the mean words as other people.
I don't really care.
When you say rough, what was your upbringing?
It's like one of those small towns in upstate New York that peaked in 1880.
That's one reason why I'm not worried about the apocalypse.
No worries.
I'm doing a podcast.
Of British accents.
My mum's not here.
No, no, but the phone would have just carried on ringing, you see.
Just for people listening.
I don't know how to shut my phone off.
Oh, no, it's cool.
I love it.
I was just going to keep going as you were doing that.
I was going to talk about British accents, make everything sound intelligent.
You guys do.
You could read anything and it would sound intelligent.
It's hilarious.
But yeah, my town I was from was post-apocalyptic.
It's actually doing well now.
I just visited.
I was really impressed.
People were trying to farm more.
It looked nicer.
But we peaked with the Erie Canal.
It was back when America had a lot more industry, and so it just became kind of like Siberia.
Everyone was just drunk and fighting and There was like no hope.
And so growing up, it was very common to just be in fights and have just really abusive type teachers.
And I don't know, I would tell stories about growing up and people were like, what the hell is that?
You know, like how people were treated.
And so I think it kind of put, gave me kind of thicker skin, you know?
Yeah.
But like you say, It's nothing compared with what the settlers, the, I mean, do you go back to the settlers?
Do you have pioneering members of your family or did you move over later on?
Yeah, I mean, Lewis and Clark is a blood relative.
I also have some dirty Irish invaders in my family line.
But yeah, I mean, we have some family members.
I mean, we have one part of the family that came from a British prison in like 1710.
So yeah, I mean, we have...
And then some of the Germans that came in the 1800s to the Midwest and...
Yeah, I have family line that made it work when you had actual savage attacks.
You know, you just have a house, there'd be an Indian raid, the government had signed a different treaty, you'd have to move, something got burned down.
You know, so I try to keep that energy of like, well, what now?
You know, it's Crush, we're American.
Yeah, well, I can't remember where I was reading it.
Well, I do, actually.
It's in a quarterly journal I take called Slightly Fox, and it was reviewing this diary of an American settler from the 18th century.
And it was really interesting realizing what they had to put up with.
You know, you had to...
You all looked after each other.
You had to be able to put up a house very quickly.
You had to be able to work up your food supply very quickly.
You prepared to be working really hard in hostile environments.
I mean, I don't know how bad the Indians were I've started to feel sorry for...
When I was a child, obviously, like most people, I was a cowboy, not an Indian, or I was 7th Cavalry.
But now I'm totally with the Indians.
I want the Indians to massacre the 7th Cavalry because they're bastards, weren't they?
I mean, they were just sort of like invading their land and poisoning them with disease and killing their buffalo.
Yeah, I mean...
Yeah, they kept breaking treaties, which I think is the most damning.
That's when I side with the Indians, when...
But it wasn't the settlers.
It was like, you know, the government.
I get it.
But it's like, so they would do a treaty and then the government would encroach on it.
But the thing is, a lot of Indians didn't respect lions either.
They would just follow the buffalo.
And then you have farmers that they're like, this square is mine.
And then you have a mentality where it's like, we go where the buffalo goes.
And those two paradigms don't mix.
Yeah.
So, yeah, no, I'm not viewing them as bad.
It's just the savages is in like...
Kind of like a different way of living, where it's just a lot more visceral, a lot more raids and stuff like that.
And so, you know, it's kind of like a bunch of El Salvadorians come in, and there's like a cul-de-sac, and you have one group that's used to one way of living, and another of this group is used to another.
And that just can lead to some real violence, but it's not a moral claim.
claim i'm not saying that they're like uh evil or anything it's just like uh you know proximity plus differences can create extreme violence and i think a lot of sure experience that yeah i do envy your position because i mean i don't know whether you ever spend time dwelling on on the horrors to come But I think that when you go down, you're going to go down with the smell of cordite, aren't you?
It's going to be like the Alamo or whatever.
You're going to be fighting to the last bullet.
Whereas over here, we don't even get to have our own bullets.
The state has already confiscated our guns.
So we're just going to get murdered.
Well, I think this one might be through comfort.
I think it's almost like a...
What's it called?
Hospice.
Hospice for just normal people.
I just see people being guided into a dystopian comfort that just calls them...
Being an animal guy...
Goats, cows, alpaca, everything.
I deal with animals all the time, and the way to control an animal is through grain and fencing and psychological operations.
So I think the most violence is going to be around major cities, and it's going to be about dependents.
And it's going to be about the financial system not being able to support the dependents.
You know, America has our fiat currency.
We're just sucking up the wealth of the world.
And a lot of people don't want to admit that.
Like the Fed, for all of its evil, for all of its inversion, you know, debt money as debt.
It's just like debt being money.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And we just print our way out of all of our liabilities and debt.
But that allows so many Americans to live...
Just sipping on coffee from part of the world and a pineapple in the winter in Minnesota.
You're living like a king and you don't even realize it.
And then when that fails, which it mathematically has to, people are going to be like...
I think the despair of just not being able to get the tastes and pleasures that they have will just lead to...
Just real instability.
And I studied this in college.
I went to the Czech Republic to study World War II and collapse and tyranny and all that because I wanted to know how it happened.
And a lot of it is like no community.
Like what you talked about with the settlers, they relied on each other.
So atomization, despair...
The acceptance of lies, like where people can just lie and no one cares.
That apathy, that entitlement.
And yeah, I see it all over in America.
I see it as like a form of communism.
And so that's why I really focus on community.
And I think a lot of the violence is going to be around the proximity of cities.
And the rural won't be so bad.
Because people say, oh, they'll come take your farm.
And I'm like, how are they going to get here?
I mean, the desperate...
They don't even know what an onion is.
They don't know where an onion...
Like, imagine if someone stole my cow.
How are they going to butcher it?
And it's such a skill to hang a...
1200 pound animal upside down and cut it up so that you can eat it is incredibly hard to do.
So a lot of the dependent starving people wouldn't even know what to do with a cow.
They would just, I mean, they couldn't even catch it.
They would be afraid of it, you know?
Don't tell me you've mastered the art of slaughtering a cow, have you?
I've mastered the art of slaughtering chickens.
I can theoretically do a cow.
I do a lot of milk and cheese, but one of my cows is now pregnant with Angus, and I'm going to raise that Angus with a really interesting diet to get incredible marbleization.
I'm really into high-quality steak, like as high as possible, like no stress.
We have non-GMO, no chemical grain around here and just pure water from the well.
I just want to really escalate the food quality.
Oh, and I'll bet there's loads of other people that you can have these sort of rural porn conversations.
Oh, it's insane.
My wife makes raw cheese that is...
I mean, I lived in LA and I go to the cheese store that supplies Wolfgang Puck and all that.
I was friends with those guys and they have great cheese.
But raw, unpasteurized, unhomogenized, hand-milked A2A2 Jersey cows.
My wife is mastered.
Cheese making to the point where she's now becoming artistic about it.
And yeah, we trade and sell to each other around here.
We have a farm stand.
Other people have farm stands.
We make homemade butter.
And, you know, all of our marinara and ketchup is from our tomatoes.
We have like a year-round greenhouse.
And yeah, we're really enjoying it.
Yeah, I'm like, best apocalypse ever.
You know what I mean?
That's just...
If you weren't so toxic, you could do really well on...
Which is the channel where people post Stories about traditional wives doing wonderful recipes.
Oh no, we're in all that.
That's the funniest thing.
In that world, I'm not even toxic.
They're just like, oh yeah, I get it.
They just don't care much.
They don't talk about stuff publicly.
But someone like me doesn't have controversial opinions in a world that's very productive and visceral.
Because so much of it is like...
You know, in my new special, I talked about how many voles and rodents and groundhogs I kill just to get apples.
You know, like the vegan idea of no killing apples.
I'm like, dude, I have to gas the tunnels and...
You know, slaughter.
And so there's so much blood in my world that we just see the world differently.
We just see it as productive or nonproductive, and lies get you killed.
So, you know.
But that's the deal.
That's what it says in the Bible.
Exactly.
That God gave us dominion over all the creatures of the earth.
It's so true.
It's gotten me a lot more spiritual understanding that the Bible is viscerally true in a sense of how to survive this insane place.
And so much knowledge is plowing the field.
So much knowledge is in that struggle with the environment that it burns away the dead wood.
And I'm weak in that world.
I'm I'm still a comedian with relatively soft hands in that world, but compared to the urban world, compared to the academics, I'm like Paul Bunyan.
And I get to see so much truth.
Just to get a goat, you get them in there with the grain, which is like corn syrup and pornography, whatever is enticing you in, and then you put them in debt, you put the thing on their neck, and then you take their children's future, Which is just white gold.
And then you set up psyops.
You know, the males, you don't want breeding.
You say they're brave and they're beautiful.
And you take their testicles.
And I'm like, I get it.
Like, I totally understand how the system works.
It's all about consent and psychological operations.
Wow.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when they call us cattle, they know what they're talking about.
100%.
And so those of us that can resist aren't cattle.
You know, and it is a choice.
It's like, if you could see COVID and say, I don't want to go along with this.
Like, if the psyops didn't make you emotional and insane, then, you know, by the laws of God and man, like, you're not cattle.
And so, that's it.
And then people can choose to act like cattle, and then they get treated like cattle.
And that's why I always try to encourage people to just choose to not act like cattle.
Like in Dune, like the gum jabbar.
Remember that?
Where, like, in order for Paul Atreides to go to the next level, he has to put his hand in a hole.
Oh, that thing!
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that thing.
And how funny is that it's called a jab.
It was gum jab.
It was a jab R. And so the whole thing was, if you react like an animal will kill you, if you can take the pain and know it's an illusion, then you win.
And so for us, for humans, I think it's social shame and...
Like, imagine if the stakes are even higher.
Like, you have to sacrifice your son or you're called hateful and you're not allowed on a cruise ship.
You know, like, that's the metaphor.
You know, that's the fractal.
Can you do that?
And people would be like, of course.
Well, you've just described the movie industry, haven't you?
I mean, they do mostly sacrifice their firstborn.
Yeah, well, that's the thing.
And they don't even realize...
They might not even realize they're doing it.
I mean...
I mean, when abortion went to 40 weeks, it's in...
I mean, you have...
But some people can't even see it.
They're like, oh, it's...
Woman's right.
It's choice.
And I'm like, dude, they take that baby and they make stem cells for that executive's face.
Like, it's so dark and it's right in plain sight.
And people use wizard words to pretend it isn't.
You know, they're just like, oh, but it's...
It's a choice.
I'm like, dude, that was a crying baby and the parts are now being used to make these people look younger.
I'm like, that's like being a vampire.
It's right in front of you.
But the PSYOP is so powerful and well executed.
I mean, for most of my life, I would say, I... Prided myself as a kind of sophisticated European, unlike those kind of basic Bible Belt Americans who, you know, they actually stand outside abortion clinics, not realizing that basically it's a way we've advanced culturally.
And of course, of course women should be free to terminate children.
It's like, it's civilized.
Dude, I was the same way, man.
I was the same way.
I took pride in being above those fools that believed in God and didn't know that we came from an explosion and mutated monkeys wildly, procreating in a swamp.
I 100% was there with you.
But there's no shame.
You just move on.
Everybody's wrong.
That's why my slogan is I might be wrong, but I'm not lying.
All we can do is say what we think...
We see.
And then eventually just do our best because, you know, it's really humbling when you realize that there's something I believe right now that's wrong.
I just don't know it yet.
But I'll try.
Yeah, you could be.
Do you know what?
It could be that pandas are real.
Let's talk pandas.
Let's talk pandas.
Well, you know, I think what bothers me about talking to you is that I realized that We could talk about...
There's so much we can talk about.
We could just talk about this stuff for hours.
We can talk about living in the country and doing country shit.
We can talk about the dark side of Hollywood, which we're going to come back to.
But pandas are pretty important, I think.
I think we're on the same team.
Pandas are one of those conspiracy theories that is silly, and so you can have a fun talk about logic fallacies with something with zero stakes.
Because if you look at pandas, my claim is that pandas are fake.
And for your audience, I don't mean that they're like robots.
I think they're like Shih Tzus.
I just think they're heavily modified that couldn't exist in nature.
So, at first, I think this sounds ridiculous, but I'm looking into it.
I'm like, they can only breed three days a year.
At first, I'm like, wow, that's crazy.
A human, it's like one day a month.
That can be a little hard.
We have a low birth rate.
They have three days an entire year.
They sleep most of the day.
All they do is eat bamboo.
They have no defense to predators.
They won't procreate and captive.
They can't run.
They just fall down hills.
They don't exist in Chinese literature or art before 1880.
And a group of pandas is called an embarrassment of pandas.
So when I saw that, I'm like, what?
So there's a school of fish and a herd of cattle.
It's an embarrassment of pandas.
They tell you.
Yeah, there's an embarrassment at pandas over there.
And I'm a comedian.
I'm not a biologist, right?
I'm a comedian.
I'm not a astronomer.
I can spot jokes.
And when I see a joke, it smells like sulfur.
I'm like, there's something here where there's humor.
And so, yeah, I don't have the answers.
I would guess, because bamboo grows really crazy, like it's really hard to get rid of bamboo.
I would guess that they were bred from like a red panda, which I think are real, and maybe something else, just to eat bamboo.
I think they're designed to clear bamboo, and then they get used as the symbol of For globalism, you know, World Wildlife Federation and Trudeau and all these guys, they always have pandas.
And I'm like, because that's what they want the world to be, black, white, Asian, independent.
You know, vegan, dependent, absurd, useless animals are to be cherished.
And then America spends millions of dollars on the pandas.
And they've been caught faking pandas.
I mean, there's been some scandals where they paint dogs as pandas.
They're just, you know, they always say pandas are asleep.
You know, I just call nonsense.
But there's also the running there pedo joke, isn't there?
Because isn't the panda some horrible reference to what happens to children when they're violated?
Yeah, the black eyes, the black circles around the eyes.
Yeah, there's a lot of demonic...
And then Panda, like Pan, like the demon god Pan.
Same with Pandemonia, Pandemic.
So when you see Pan, you're already like, oh, that's odd.
And then you realize that they can't exist in nature.
The claim is that when China had tigers, There were pandas.
Pandas can't defend themselves against a midget.
They're useless animals.
Just watch panda videos.
And the funniest thing is, I'll say this, people think I'm crazy, and then for the next year, they're sending me panda videos where they're like, dude, look at this one.
It's just a panda eating and just falls over.
They're like, these things are not real.
And by not real, again, I mean man-made, like how man made a Shih Tzu.
And China is known for ridiculous dogs.
So I think they have, you know, some technology, some tradition where they can breed a wolf into a Shih Tzu.
You know?
So that's my theory on pandas.
No, I think you're on the money.
Whereas dragons...
Dragons definitely existed, yeah?
I think there's a lot more evidence that dragons existed than pandas.
You know?
Yeah.
I mean, you know, it's like when you look at Chinese Zodiac, you look at British history, there's a lot of references to dragons and none to pandas.
So...
Now, there may never have been dragons, but the odds...
I don't think they ever breathed fire, but I think that large lizards weren't as distant as people may think.
I think you're being slightly gay on that subject.
I think dragons definitely breathed fire, some of them, some species.
Listen, if I'm gay about that subject, I have to look into that because I can't be dragon gay as seen as very shameful.
No, you said I want to be dragon gay.
Now, I've been seeing encouraging signs in you that you've gone down one of my favorite rabbit holes, which is what the hell happens in Antarctica.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, isn't that the best?
It's the greatest, man.
It's the greatest conspiracy ever because it makes no sense.
What do you got for Antarctica?
What's the thing that gets you going?
Okay.
The thing I like about Antarctica, and I got...
Have you heard of Jesse Zabota?
No.
Jesse Sabota used to be a mother of darkness.
She was one of the five...
The world is divided...
The satanic overlords divide their dark church, whatever they call it, into five regions, and she was one of the mothers of darkness.
And they're reared from an early age, and they're tested for their psychic abilities and their ability to communicate with the demons and with the devil.
Um, and so she participated in all these rituals and stuff.
And she's, they have these portals, which, which, I mean, I don't, there are obviously the super fast underground train lines, which they've got, which they can travel around the world.
But I think also, they have portals where they can, a bit like Star Trek, where they can dematerialize and appear in For example, the evil satanic castle in Germany or whatever, where they do a lot of child sacrifice and stuff.
I mean, some people are going, oh, this is how James has completely lost it.
I don't think so.
I think that we...
Well, you and I believe in the supernatural.
Yeah, definitely.
Once you accept that the world was made by God...
I think all other bets are off.
I mean, if that wondrous thing can happen, then what wondrous things can't happen?
So, Jesse told me that Leviathan, the sea monster that you encounter in the Psalms and stuff and in the Old Testament generally, he is down there, the sea monster, that there are these tunnels.
Now, did I get this from Jesse or not?
That can only be opened by singing the right songs.
I think that there are limitless resources.
Well, not limitless, but incredible resources.
Mountains with, you know, probably full of gold and stuff and...
I think probably David Bowie is there.
I'm not sure, but it's a sort of...
There are huge underground cities.
I think there are lots of Nazis there or ex-Nazis.
I mean, if you're looking at the World War II stuff with Antarctica, it's wild.
Yeah.
No, totally.
I mean, I start looking into something when it's almost like that American Psycho, like the Patrick Bateman effect, like the I was returning videotapes where the explanations make so little sense and I'm watching people just be like, you know, they say you can't fly over Antarctica because they don't want to affect the ecosystem.
Like, that's so stupid because there's no commercial flights over Antarctica.
There's no private flights.
And there hasn't been since the Antarctic Treaty.
Like the one treaty the world all agrees on is that no one goes into Antarctica.
There's two islands off the coast called Rothschild Island and Deception Island.
Swear to God.
And then you...
So you say, okay, so you can fly over the Amazon rainforest, which is the most dense ecosystem in the world, but not Antarctica, which you're telling me is completely ice with like eight penguins.
And so you're like, okay, that makes no sense.
And then you just keep looking into Antarctica, the history of it, how no one travels the world like this.
It's only like this.
You know, how many people go around the world like this, but never like this.
And then you're just like, okay, this isn't what they say it is.
And then the thing that blew my mind is just go on John Kerry's Wikipedia.
On Election Day 2016, November or whatever in America, John Kerry goes to Antarctica.
It's just there for three days.
Who else?
A bunch of world leaders will just go to Antarctica on either Christmas or Election Day, and then they say they're studying climate change.
That's ridiculous.
I think that there's a really good chance that extraterrestrials, like extraterra, just means more land.
Just people and more land.
And so then you look at Admiral Byrd and you look at all this stuff and just the deception of maps, the deception of what the world is.
And I just think Antarctica...
And it's so funny, given that my listeners call themselves bears, you know, because I always was called Big Bear because I'm 6'8", and I can be grumpy, but I like berries.
And Antarctica literally translates to no bears.
Because...
Arctic means bears, land of bears, and Antarctica means land of no bears.
I haven't thought about that before.
I thought a bear, certainly in gay parlance, was the kind of big bearded man that a certain kind of homosexual goes for.
I'm sure they go for you as well.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
I mean, we're talking about bears.
I grew up with the Chicago bears or the Russian bear or just...
The polar bear, the grizzly bear, and then every now and then a British guy will be like, don't you know that's a gay man?
And I'm like, not for me.
I mean, maybe in England.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm not the first person to say that.
Like, you guys don't have real bears, so you have, like, a big fat guy named Gary and a beard, and he's like, I'll be your bear.
I know a big fat guy called Gary, actually.
He hasn't got a beard, but he is big and fat.
I used to be...
I used to be...
We'll come back to Antarctica.
I used to be obsessed with horrible ways to die by animal.
And...
The grizzly bear was one of my worst.
Because before they kill you, they take your face off with their salmon descaling claws.
They spike it on their claws, don't they?
They catch them in the river.
And those are the claws they use to rip your face off.
So almost you don't want to survive a grizzly attack.
Because you have no face.
Yeah, that's the thing about bears is they can be totally chill and nice.
You can sit next to them and they're fine or they can rip your face off.
And it's all about, you know, if you're poking them or if they don't have a food supply.
And that's why, you know, I'm really into growing my own food because I don't want to rip anyone's face off if I don't have to, you know?
Have you seen...
Sorry, I'm getting hot here.
Have you seen Grizzly Man by Werner Herzog?
Yeah, yeah.
The bit where he listens to the recording of the guy being eaten by the bears.
Eaten by the bears, yeah.
And that guy, just super flamboyant, for those of you that haven't seen it.
Just a super flamboyant guy.
He's like, you know, they're such great animals.
And he'll spend all this time with the bears, and the bears are cool with him until they just eat them.
He brought his chick, too, who also got eaten.
Eventually, you know, when they're hungry, they're giant animals.
And polar bears will hunt you.
Polar bears will smell you and hunt you for miles and miles.
And then polar bears are...
I mean, they are huge.
And they are just incredible animals.
I just can't get over polar bears.
So you can really see the appeal of Antarctica now.
It hasn't got these beasts that...
That's a good selling point.
No bears.
Yeah, you're only allowed to go for a three-mile area because people will say, well, you can go to Antarctica anytime you want.
There's this three-mile area that you're allowed to go and take pictures and you're not allowed to go anywhere else.
You cannot explore Antarctica.
And the excuses are just so ridiculous.
They're like, well, you'll just trash the place.
I'm like, I can go to the rainforest.
I can make a species extinct.
And then they call them emperor penguins.
I always just look at words, you know, like, just words, you know, emperor, penguin.
Hmm, that's interesting.
You know, why do the elite wear tuxedos?
I don't know.
I'm just asking questions.
Oh!
Tuxedos are absurd outfits.
If you think about it, I mean, they look cool and everything, but it's almost like the rulers of the world all dress like penguins.
I'm like, that's an odd choice for style.
Yeah.
Maybe we should get our viewers to sponsor a joint expedition to Antarctica.
They'll arrest you.
If you've got a boat going to the wrong area, military boats come out and they open fire on people.
That's real.
They do.
I know that.
There was that guy on the yacht who got...
Sunk, I think.
He just disappeared.
Yeah, absolutely.
They don't mess around with Antarctica.
That's why people are like, just go and just die.
So spend 20 grand, leave my family to go to Chile and then die?
And then die.
I don't have that burning desire.
I'm just curious about it.
I just find it interesting.
That's the mistake.
I mean, okay, there are some advantages in making the moral choice that we have.
In as much as we don't have to feast on the blood of children, we don't get to burn in eternal hellfire and or freeze in a freezing lake.
Which version are you going with on hell?
Is it freezing or is it cold?
I don't know.
It's something that I think is...
I don't know.
What do you think?
I mean...
I think it's probably a mix of both, I think.
Yeah, because cold is like the absence of life.
So when winter comes, I can see how that's like hell.
It's like barren of energy, barren of, you know, growth.
But fire, it's like it feeds on dead wood.
It burns on your sin.
So I don't know.
Yeah, maybe it's a bit of both.
It's just, it sucks.
Anyway, we love it.
With luck, we've avoided that, but we have denied ourselves the chance.
You and I are not going to Antarctica for one of the reasons we've given.
We're never going to get invited.
And that's a disappointment to me, I have to say.
Yeah, me too.
Me too.
But if you're in the Faustian deal, it's not like you're going to have fun anyway.
You know, it sounds great to be invited to Antarctica, but But the only way you're going to get invited...
It's like a ditty party.
Everyone wants to get invited to a ditty party until they're being sodomized on camera.
And so I feel like Antarctica is very similar.
That ought to enter a book of phrases.
Everyone wants to go to a ditty party until they're being sodomized.
Yeah, and then for those who need context, it's about Antarctica.
So strange.
But it's...
I just think...
I'd like to go somewhere where there are no chemtrails, for one thing.
Yeah.
And no wind turbines.
And I imagine it's unpolluted.
I imagine there's just got, like, there's not many places in the world you can go now which have not been completely messed up by our dark overlords.
I don't mean, oh, our selfishness and greed and pollution.
I mean, the serious stuff that they're doing, whether it's zapping us with directed energy weapons, you know, burning down Lahaina.
Or whether it's just chemtrailing us.
I mean, do you get chemtrails in Idaho?
Not really.
We, uh...
Yeah, we get almost none.
Every now and then, though, you'll see one, and it's just huge and ridiculous.
But we get forest fires that appear to be sometimes quite unnatural, and that's a pretty terrifying natural disaster.
I personally know people who've lost their houses in forest fires, and that's brutal.
What do you do?
We deal with that.
You just build another one.
It's like the settler thing.
You just got to build another one.
The protocol is you spray paint your address on your animals and you leave your gates open.
And then when you come back, hopefully you can find your animals.
And the community is really good at helping people locate the animals.
That's really nice because I do worry floods and fires.
I always think about what happens to all the animals, all the livestock.
Yeah, no, they have good instincts.
As long as they're not fenced in, they usually get to high ground in a flood or get away from fires.
But it can be pretty brutal, though.
That's why I take a lot of precautions.
I keep all the grass down.
I never let a field go too big.
Around my house, I keep it pretty barren.
I have a good sprinkler system because that's pretty nuts.
And I think the insurance companies in the future are going to be really shady.
I think they're going to keep pulling coverage in areas.
Like California, I mean, there's whole regions that you can't get home insurance because of fires.
And I think that's going to keep increasing to the point where...
Yeah, I think that's a strategy to get people away from ownership.
Yeah.
That Hurricane that you just had, Hurricane...
What's it called?
Milton?
Milton.
That wasn't natural, was it?
I didn't feel it.
I mean, the one before seemed to be way worse.
I almost think Milton was a distraction because the one that was in...
The one that was in Georgia, that one was way more devastating.
But that was fake as well.
Yeah, that seemed unnatural.
That's kind of like Houston, where it just rained for 30 days, just right on an area and just devastated it.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But you know the conspiracy theory, I hate to use that phrase, but why not?
Behind that one, don't you?
Behind the North Carolina one.
Oh, it was about the mines?
Yeah, the mines.
The mines for the microchips.
In the same way that Oprah wanted more land in Lahaina or whatever, the elites wanted this nice resort in Lahaina and the locals wouldn't sell, so they just burned down their houses.
In the same way, Blackrock or somebody wanted this mine, so they sent in the Hurricane.
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah, it's a liability shield.
It's the weather.
That's why I like to live in places that really powerful people don't want.
You know, that's...
I like that.
I'm like, you know, say what you will about my hometown, but it doesn't appear that it was wanted by anyone.
So that's probably why we didn't burn down.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they seem to...
They like...
New Zealand, don't they?
Yes, they did.
Because New Zealand used to be on when I was growing up.
I mean, you're a bit younger than me, but but maybe you remember this era when you used to think when it when it all kicked off, the place you'd flee to would be somewhere like New Zealand.
And New Zealand, beautiful, loads of space, Lord of the Rings, cheap, just rugged, outdoorsy people.
No nonsense.
And then what did they do?
They sent in a transgender communist to run the country.
You know, the horse woman creature.
And they became more jab-tastic than almost any other country under, you know, they were sort of sending squads around to almost compulsory vaccinate people, almost.
I mean, it was pretty bad.
And so suddenly they turned paradise into relatively hell.
Yeah, you can't have a parasitic group of people hide anywhere because they require productive people in order to live.
So, yeah, that's the paradox.
That's why they can't win ever because, yeah, they want to do that to Portugal too.
Because you go there and then you're there and you suck.
And a lot of them, they truly believe they have to control the world out of fear and that they're right and they don't need to be...
They can lie because their will, their fear, their desire for power is the most important thing.
And they don't realize what that would be like if they're just around themselves because they hate each other.
There's no honor amongst thieves.
They absolutely resent and despise greatness, beauty, honesty, joy, gratitude.
It makes them angry.
And so you can see it in all classes of people, too.
I mean, I know...
We're going to be facing...
Yeah, well, you could have...
I mean, you've done so much...
Congratulations.
You've done so much better.
Then you would have done, you could have been earning what, 10 times, 100 times what you're earning now?
How much did, if you'd done the right thing and, you know, signed the pact in blood, how much would you be making a year now, would you say?
Millions.
I mean, these people make millions and millions and millions of dollars, but their lives suck.
I mean, I wouldn't have all my kids.
I wouldn't have the knowledge I have.
There's no replacement.
I mean, one of my friends was saying, if it has a price, it's cheap.
You know, like how much to trade your kids?
How much to trade your honor?
How much to trade your ability to do your skill?
And there's no price.
And this is when they get the most angry, is they're sitting on the yacht, and they just see a dude on a pontoon boat, poor, you know, not wealthy, having a blast with their friends.
And they're on the yacht, you know, Game of Thrones-ing each other, miserable.
And that's why they hate joy.
Because they'll look and say...
You're such a fool.
Look at these fools.
They're so happy, but they're disgusting.
And that's where they get the real resentment.
It's just me getting an egg out of a chicken's ass makes me more happy than them going to Ibiza on ecstasy.
And that's a fact.
And that is infuriating to evil people.
Yeah, you don't have to be one of the world's evil controlling elites to go to Ibiza and go to space and take a pill.
I've done it, and I'm not Illuminati.
But I'm with you, generally.
By the way, I don't think it comes out of the chicken's arse.
I think that...
I think...
Your chicken anatomy is slightly wrong.
But I'm with you on the principle.
Do you...
How much do you get paid for a Netflix special?
It's like millions, isn't it?
$40 million.
$40 million.
And what would you even do with that amount of money?
I mean, you'd have to live...
That's how you know it's nonsense because they never do anything good with it.
They're never like...
I mean, with a hundred grand, you can buy a piece of land, have festivals, grow food, have an after-school...
You know, imagine what you could do with that amount of money.
Like, you could have after-school programs for kids.
You could set up anything.
You could decentralize the food system and get people all this great food.
Like, it's unlimited.
You could redesign all kinds of technology.
You could do anything.
And they don't.
It's always more houses, more planes, more cars.
And that's why they're allowed it because they're not a threat.
They just waste it.
They just indulge with it and they make their own little prisons.
You know, imagine a $200,000 watch.
Like, what's the point of that?
There's just no point.
Well, yeah.
So, okay.
Joe Rogan.
First of all, is it a man or a woman?
Do you reckon?
I have no idea.
I mean, he's very, very small and takes a lot of hormones, so you can never really know, but no idea.
I mean, I don't know much about comedy, American comedy, but he claims to be a comedian.
Yeah, no, it's pretty wild.
It's pretty wild.
Because I saw some of his set Um, and I was quite rude about it.
I mean, I just, I almost get more annoyed by people like Joe Rogan than I do about the really bad people.
Because Joe Rogan is, it seems to me, he's a kind of, he's a gatekeeper.
He's a kind of Limited hangout.
He's designed to corral the potential resistance into this kind of safe pen where, you know, you're kind of resisting but not really.
Yeah, he rides the wave.
He knows the timing.
He's the type of guy that follows the 48 laws of power to a T, where it's just all about, you know, status, manipulation, playing the game.
When COVID first was going, he was calling anti-vaxxers kooks and fools and dangerous.
And then after 70% of the country took it, he then took his stand so that he could get his credibility.
It's just very calculated.
And that's okay.
I mean...
It's a way to live.
I think that's what causes dementia, personally.
Because you don't know what the truth is over time.
You just start thinking, what is the thing that will get me money and power?
And eventually your mind doesn't trust your heart.
You just can't flow.
And that's very scary.
That is the place you don't want to be.
Yeah, well, I think you're almost being too kind to him because you seem to be suggesting that he's just making calculations, where I think it's more than that.
I think that, I can't remember how much he earns for his podcast, but you would not be getting that kind of money if you did not have a role within the ecosystem of the Illuminati power structure, let's say.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know how aware everyone is.
I just know that if you do a function, whether it's your choice or someone tells you you have to, you will be handsomely rewarded.
And if you don't, you will be crushed.
And watching him...
To apologize on CNN for saying a word as a comedian was humiliating.
When there's so many things he could apologize for and he chose that saying a word, a specific word, there's no excuse for it, blah, blah, blah.
And the comedian has to have balls.
They have to have that thing where they say the things other people won't say.
That's our craft.
That's our duty, our honor.
Yeah.
And I think I'm being kind to them because I pity it.
I truly do pity it.
I'm like, that's such a bad call.
And I didn't used to pity it.
I used to see them more as a threat.
And so I'd be more angry about it.
And then I realized that it's almost like watching someone self-harm, you know, where I'm just...
Yeah.
It's just sad.
Yeah.
Who's the really funny black one who did the joke about how if you were a paedophile you would definitely sleep with Macaulay Culkin?
I don't know.
Who's the...
I'm just really...
Dave Chappelle.
Dave Chappelle.
He seemed...
For a while it seemed like he'd been able to get really huge...
Without paying the price, you know, without sort of sacrificing his integrity.
But that can't possibly be.
I mean, since then, I think somebody's had a word with him and he's kind of reined it in or done something.
Am I not right?
Yeah, I mean, his big joke was Caitlyn Jenner was woman of the year, hasn't been a woman for a full year.
And then going through the LGBT thing where it's like you started with the L's and then you get to the G's and the B's and the B's will fuck anybody.
Anybody?
Anybody.
Like that whole joke I did six years before.
And took all the heat for it.
Had millions of views on YouTube.
My YouTube's deleted.
Everything's wiped.
He does the joke but inverts it a bit to make it seem like it's good what they're doing.
And gets paid $40 million.
And so a lot of people called him out.
And the whole communist thing is just never acknowledge.
Never acknowledge.
You know, never acknowledge.
And so that's why, you know, Kanye West called him out for stealing my joke on Alex Jones.
And, you know, they'll just never acknowledge.
They just...
I didn't even know this.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, it was known.
I mean, tons of people have talked about it.
Okay.
Say what people will about me, but that's objectively...
Because he got all this accolades for that one joke.
Rolling Stone, all this stuff.
Oh, has he gone too far with trans?
Blah, blah, blah.
And everyone's like, oh, it's so free.
He's so...
He's fighting back, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, I did it word for word six years ago, and now I can't rent out a place on Airbnb because I was doing it when it mattered.
And then they do it after the op is over.
You know, the trans thing is pretty much done.
Now it's just hosting.
And so they wouldn't let me do it, but then Dave does it to keep his credibility and invert it and get paid.
And I'm just like, okay, well, I don't respect that.
And I used to get mad about it, but I don't want their dirty money.
So it's like, I know that I said the joke first. - Yeah, you know, that's totally, so.
Sorry to be really nosy about this world that you inhabited and still do inhabit to a degree.
Because a lot of people, when they go down the rabbit hole, so for example, they look at Hollywood.
They look at the entertainment industry and they realise that pretty soon that everything is fake.
So the Beatles...
by the tavis dockins institute probably the stones as well they're all they're all manufactured um and then the whole of the west coast sound for example dave mcgowan weird scenes inside the canyon yeah uh the whole of the hippie movement was fake yeah tim morrison's dad did this did the false flag to start vietnam And people are like, oh yeah, what a wild coincidence.
I'm like, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Admiral, was Jim Morrison's dad.
And they're just like, oh, how dare you?
I'm like, okay, man, I'm just going to grow food.
So you go there, and you think, okay, right, so I can no longer enjoy Monday Monday in the same way anymore, or California Dreaming, because these people were all, they were all the sort of sons and daughters of CIA or military intelligence or naval intelligence or whatever.
So you think, okay, so that's great.
And then you look at Hollywood.
And you realise that, A, half the men that you think of are men are women and vice versa.
So elite gender inversion, if you want to go down that rabbit hole.
But you certainly realise that these people are up to the neck in adrenochrome and just really, really, really dark, evil stuff.
And I think what a lot of people...
Wonder at this point is how much are these people born that way?
They're born into kind of dynasties of...
Because acting does tend to reward dynastic heritage, doesn't it?
Yeah.
But you seem to be an example of...
Your theory is that comedians are kind of...
They're sort of passengers in this system.
They're sort of partly of it and partly not.
Is that right?
Yeah, because there's a way to...
It's like fighters.
You can mess with fighters and have puppet fighters and PSYOP fighters, but you have to be a good fighter, and you can't fake that.
It's like that with stand-up.
You have to be able to talk in a microphone in front of a crowd, and they laugh.
And you have to earn that.
And so because of that, it's hard to fake.
There has to be an objective thing.
The Beatles did, what, one, two live performances after their first album?
They never objectively were seen by people.
It was all a construct.
So they didn't even have to have talent.
There was no...
In Beatlemania, it was so loud, no one could really hear them.
And then they did one...
Performance on a roof.
And that's it.
A lot of people don't realize the Beatles never toured.
And even that is still easier to fake.
Music is easier to fake than stand-up.
Because there's a visceral response with laughter.
And so stand-up comedy as a social engineering product had to be completely co-opted.
And I think Netflix did a lot of that with huge amounts of money.
And then trickery.
Because it was just one of those things where you couldn't fake it.
And so I would be like a party guy.
I would drink and cavort with the ladies and all that.
So I had enough loose morality where I could blend in.
And I didn't think that anything wrong was happening.
So I could rise to a point where I would have to start signing off on things that I... It sounds insane to me, and that's why I think I got to see what I did.
Yeah, I think that the comedians are like the daywalkers, and I think most of the quote-unquote evil of Hollywood is just being okay with stuff, like just turning a blind eye, just...
You know, agreeing to not talk to your friend anymore because he's been blackballed.
I mean, so many layers of it is just not acknowledging horror or being a sellout or betraying friends.
And then the higher up you go, the more I think that there are more aware agendas.
I mean, looking back, they would do scripts.
They would be like, this is what we want out of scripts this year.
And it'd be 30 scripts...
And it would be like, we want a mixed dysfunctional family.
That's what one of the studios would say.
And so I would sell scripts, and I had no idea that it was like an agenda.
I just thought like, oh, that's the theme this year.
And so then you do that, and then they pick which script, and then they show it to an audience, and then they test it, and blah, blah, blah.
And then there's typically like a dude on set that's like, put this word in there.
And it's really subtle.
It's really...
It's really subtle just to get a theme or a word repeating and in the consciousness and then that word will then be used later in some form of social program and that's that's Hollywood you know that's what it is and it's it's named after the wood of a magic wand I mean it's not like anyone who looks into it can't see it I just didn't see it for a while Okay,
so the dude who's on set, who says, I want you to use this word, do people just accept him?
Do people sort of go and chat with him in the green room or in the bar afterwards?
Those type of people were doing, but it seemed completely natural.
It'd be someone giving a note.
Like, you don't know.
That's the thing.
It's like, you don't really know what everyone's role is.
There'll be all these producers and they'll just sit around and I knew some of them and there were great people and some of them will just be like, oh, can you use this word?
Try it this way.
I'll just do this word.
And you're like, okay, and that's it.
And you're getting paid and you're so excited that you are even working.
It's so competitive that just to get a job in Hollywood is like a hundredth of a percent.
So just being there, you don't really see it because you're like, I'm just happy to be here.
I'm just going to do my best at whatever these people need.
And it all seems very innocuous until you see the big picture of the word that keeps remembering.
If you go back and watch Batman...
Rises.
He literally says, the mask isn't for you.
It's for those you love.
And then he holds up a bomb that looks exactly like the coronavirus.
I mean, it's just like, it's little things like that.
And I don't know who's accountable.
I don't know what the level of awareness is.
I just know that that happens.
I don't know if it's spiritual.
I don't know if it's, I don't know.
But that's why I focus on what I do know and what I can create.
And that's what's brought me a lot of peace.
Have you seen...
You must have done.
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Yeah.
The Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman episode.
I don't remember it, but yeah, I remember it being funny.
Oh, okay.
You should...
Okay, this is an experiment you should do.
I first saw it before I became awake.
Yeah.
And I watched it again through awake eyes.
And it's basically about child rape.
Whoa!
Seriously?
Yeah, yeah.
So they're putting on this musical.
And the girl character, whatever her name is...
But my character has to talk about falling in love with this boy.
You know, I don't like this song.
He's clearly a boy.
He's not a man.
And the guy who's written the musicals basically says to her, do you want this role or not?
Because I can cut out your song.
Or you can sing your song, but you can sing the words that you find objectionable, which I thought was a very interesting commentary on the nature of the business.
And then you've got the Daniel DeVito character singing a song about a troll toll, and basically he is taking money For somebody to have, he's pimping out this little boy, so that people can go and have sex with this little boy, Danny DeVito's taking the money.
And when you're a Normie, you're watching this and you're thinking, well, this is a bit weird, but it's zany, and it's got some great tunes, and the song Day Man, Fright of the Night Man, it's really good, and it's catchy, and it's funny, and it's kind of outlifting.
But it's that agenda, the subtext that is being used to kind of get into your mind, into your subconscious.
That's fascinating.
I've got to re-watch that.
That's crazy.
All I remember is a catchy song.
You should do...
I mean, you might find you were inspired to do an analysis of it because it's...
I thought that shows like Always Sunny in Philadelphia were somehow exempt from...
But they're not, are they?
Yeah, no.
Have you re-watched Princess Bride?
Was it you who was talking about this the other day?
Yeah.
It's got...
It's like a handful of false flags.
I mean, it's so...
It's so interesting.
He's like, he starts a war with a false flag and completely explains it.
And then there's a whole scene where it's like, which I wouldn't give for a Holocaust cloak.
And he's like, like the one I got from Miracle Max's.
And I'll just let people check out my breakdown of it.
But the symbolism of it is insane.
Like how starting wars is a brave and beautiful tradition.
You know, I'll put her dead body on Gildor.
Like, it's just showing a false flag.
And you're just like, oh my God.
I didn't even know what a false flag was when I was watching that movie.
And it's so interesting how innocent it's portrayed as, where it's just like, oh yeah, this is how you start a flag for a war for the prince of this world.
And it's just very biblical.
That's the principle, isn't it, of the revelation of the method?
Yeah, it has to be fair.
You've heard whistleblowers talk about this, that guy who used to be a bag man for the Illuminati, and he explained that it absolves them of karmic responsibility because they've shown the cattle what they're doing, and the cattle have gone, ooh, we don't know, it's a funny movie.
Yeah, I mean, they have to.
I mean, that's the thing, is we are under...
If people truly believe in an all-powerful, benevolent God, it has to be shown.
Because if not, then you're being tricked and we have dominion, not the devil.
You know, if you look at it like a...
Like a courtroom, you know, if you have God as the judge, it's whatever the judge is allowing you to hear, and if you get too much information that makes it unfair, like your test, then you're not allowed to hear that, but also it can't be unfair.
Like, you have to be shown what it is, and then if you fall for it, it's your fault, or else I don't think they could get away with it.
I think it has to be shown.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is why I think one of the reasons I... I used to think that the Bible was this kind of boring book, you know?
I mean, I wasn't grateful for the fact that Gideon's had ensured that every hotel room in the country, I don't know whether it's still the case, had a Bible in it.
Because I was thinking, yeah, but couldn't it be a good book?
You know, couldn't it be like a thriller or something?
Right, right, right.
John Grisham.
But now...
The Bible is just...
I read it for pleasure.
I don't know about you.
It's just like...
It's a survival manual for how to negotiate a world which is basically run by the devil.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's how to survive it.
And that's why when it's all said and done, they can say, we put it in every room in every hotel.
We made it available, you know?
And that's the whole thing.
I think that's what makes it fair.
Because some of my friends are like, but if there was any truth in there, why would they make it available?
Why wouldn't they hide it?
I'm like, that's the whole point.
It has to be available.
Like you have to be told- Oh, you think the Gideons are baddies?
You think the Gideons are baddies?
I don't know.
I truly don't know.
I think it's on a much bigger scale where it's just...
You have to be allowed to see that.
And if you choose not to, then that's on you.
I just think that's a huge...
I saw that in COVID. They made it so obvious.
It was so ridiculously obvious that I was like, oh, there's...
I don't want to be cynical, but I'm like...
You kind of want it.
People just wanted it.
I'm like, if you're taking medical advice from a guy who gets an award from reducing the world population, I don't know what to tell you.
Then that's the spiritual choice of being domestic cattle.
Yeah, when I was coming back through Rome Airport, and I was going through the security thing, and there was this placard, you know, a standing up thing with printed material on it.
And it was headlined MPOX. And it was about how there was a new virus during the rounds and it seemed to come from Africa and it could make you ill and I was struck by what an extraordinary world we live in where somebody went to the trouble of printing this absolute horseshit with just no scientific basis whatsoever.
It's just made up shit.
But you're seeing it on kind of an official placard at an airport, which is a kind of an official...
Building and you must take stuff seriously because you're in kind of obey the rules mode, aren't you?
Because you know that if you don't obey the rules in an airport, you miss your flight, basically, because they can dick you around any which way.
Or you get shot or you get, you know, that's the thing.
So they know how you're in an environment where you're going to be susceptible to this kind of...
But I was thinking some people are going past and genuinely thinking there is a thing called MPOX that they might get.
Yeah, you know, and sometimes I think it's because people are looking to be afraid.
Like, they want to hide.
They don't want accountability.
They don't want responsibility.
And so they're like, there we go.
That's a story that'll keep me afraid, you know?
And it's very consent-driven.
That's the craziest part.
I'm like, dude, you put a garbage bag around your kid and you didn't attend your own father's funeral.
And they're like, yeah, but, you know, we've got to be safe.
I'm like, okay, then you suck.
Like, good luck.
I'm glad you mentioned that thing, actually.
That, for me, was almost...
I mean, there were lots of disturbing things about the pandemic, but it really was bizarre.
The way that people allowed themselves to be put in a position where they could have dying relatives and that they gave permission to the government to say to them, you cannot go and see your dying relative.
Yeah, that's why it's not forced.
And I know some people want to believe it is because they don't want to face that they did that, where they said, you know, put a bag around my kid and terrify them and don't go see my dad as he's dying.
But there's always a way, you know, where there's a will, there's a way.
If people just are like, no, I'm going to see my father.
I know people that did that.
They just pulled their fathers out of the hospital or they just went to the funeral.
And it's like, are we homeschool?
You know, it's like, you can do that.
And so the thing I think some people try to avoid is responsibility.
And that's what makes people deemed cattle legally, in my opinion.
You homeschool.
What do you, how do you, I mean, science, history, most stuff is just fake.
Yeah, we just do fundamentals.
I mean, I have four sons.
We homeschool.
We get them in music, sports, jujitsu, you know, Latin.
Who does the Latin teaching?
A Christian homeschooling group.
And, you know, I just teach them about thinking for themselves.
Like, I don't say anything about...
The moon landing or anything like that.
I don't teach them what I think may be false.
I just teach them the fundamentals of the scientific method.
I teach them what logic fallacies are.
And I just let them...
I just ask them, like, what do you think stars are?
What do you think the moon is?
Like, what do you think?
How can you run an experiment to figure something out?
You know, what can you observe?
How do you set up an experiment?
Like, right now, my eight-year-old is building AM radios.
You know, they...
They do the chickens.
If you just don't tell them the lies, it's fascinating how little people would just assume these things are real.
If you just don't indoctrinate them with all this stuff, kind of like the gender stuff, at a certain age there's no way a boy would think that a boy is a girl.
It just wouldn't even enter their head.
Who teaches the Latin?
It's just one of the parts of classical conversations is Latin, and they know more Latin than I do.
I mean, that's the funniest part is I'm learning a lot through these programs.
Like, I never learned Latin, and they're going to learn Latin and Greek and You know, all the classical stuff that is the fundamentals and the building blocks of their future.
And they're much more polite than me.
I joke that sometimes I feel like I have British children because they're just so polite.
They're not that polite.
Yeah, but they're just like, you know, excuse me, mother.
You know, I'm just like, dude, I have the most well-behaved, polite, dignified.
I'm like, are you like an 18th century lord?
Meanwhile, their dad is just, you know, just this comic.
But I just, that's what I do as a father, is just have a lot, you know, stay-at-home mom, and she has all the contact with him, and then they're in a lot of group activities, so they socialize, and And it's just, they're really healthy.
And I think that that's going to be the future, is more homeschooling.
And then, you know, they're already, they can busk for tips with their violins and make money.
And they're already thinking of ways to sell stuff.
And, you know, that's like our founding fathers.
They were just, they're just very active.
That's, that, that, that, I've seen homeschooling in the UK. And I think if I... I mean, I sent my kids to really ritzy, ritzy private schools on scholarships and stuff.
Because I thought that's what would be good for them.
Maybe it did help them with contacts and stuff.
But now I'm thinking, homeschool, the way to go.
But I thought that homeschool parents kind of...
Group together.
So you might get a kind of somebody who knew Latin to teach them.
Do you actually do it yourself?
Yeah, there's no teachers.
It's all parents.
And so there's a curriculum and you can learn it.
And yeah, there's a lot of really high quality people in our homeschool groups.
And there's always family presentations.
They do public speaking from the time they're five.
They do a presentation every week.
Because standing with good posture and speaking properly and not being afraid of that is good for business, law, anything they want to do with their life.
And so, yeah, there's incredible people up here.
Really cool people.
Riding?
Do you do riding?
Yeah.
Riding or riding?
Horses.
Horses.
Yeah, I mean, right now they're doing a wilderness survival class and they want to get into riding.
There's a lot of that.
I mean, we live down the street from this incredible Clydesdale farm.
You know, that's the thing about North Idaho.
Shaw horses.
Yeah, those huge horses.
It's like the Secretary of Agriculture under Bush who lived down the street.
That's the irony of North Idaho is we get a lot of those former CIA guys or former high-level government guys that have been overseas and they're like, oh shit, I think they're doing some of that stuff here.
They're some of the best preppers because...
Because they know.
Yeah, they know.
And so this area has a lot of really interesting people that kind of see where things could go and what areas they would like to live in.
Are they on your side?
Oh yeah, yeah, totally.
So you mean, they've spent their entire careers plotting how to destroy people like you, but then when push comes to shove and they retire, they want to work against what they've spent their career doing?
Yeah, I mean, a lot of them, they thought they were doing a good job, and then they start seeing through the curtain a bit, and that's why I've kind of also figured out how to How to kind of be of the world or be in the world but not of it, where if you focus on being productive and just making fun of this shit, it doesn't really get the ISI run on you.
Obviously, you'll never rise in their world.
You're blackballed.
But unless you're going at them, they don't have that response.
And that's something I've learned where...
Where if you're just being productive, they might think you're an idiot or something, but they don't react to that.
They react to competitors.
It's a lot like a cartel where they react to the people that they perceive as trying to compete with their power.
And so someone like me isn't really on the radar as much because I don't want the power.
I don't want to run a bank or I don't want to...
Run a government.
I don't want anything to do with managing people.
So that's kind of how I do it.
Are you saying we're not going to get offed?
No.
Not unless you, you know, you're actively trying to put someone in jail or compete in their fucked up businesses.
No.
You get slandered.
You get, you know, your name gets dragged through the mud.
You are not allowed in certain systems or privileges.
But yeah, that's...
You can't rent your house out.
What's that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or you can't.
Yeah, you can't.
I'm not allowed on YouTube.
I can't even play piano on YouTube.
And it's okay.
It used to freak me out.
But I don't have that cuck response.
I was prepared.
But then I saw how it works.
And there is a lot of blowback in that world.
So they pretty much only do that if you're going to put Hillary Clinton in prison or you have an alternative to the fiat system.
You know, that's when that shit happens.
Everything else is all about consent.
But how do you deal with the intermediary?
The payment system seems to be controlled by the enemy.
Yeah, just stay out of debt.
No, but what I mean is payment processors.
Oh yeah, I've been kicked off a few of those.
It sucks.
Unauthorized.tv, shout out, Box Day.
It's not as controlled as social media.
I mean, I think it's more controlled, but it's less proactive as social media.
So...
You know, the higher the control, the more litigious they get, where it's less reckless, like how Twitter used to be, or some of these places where they'll just be like, bigot, homophobe.
So, you know, you'll lose a payment processor.
I was kicked off PayPal very early, or Venmo, or stuff like that, but the banks...
Are typically more fair.
It's just all about not getting into debt or not, you know, it's like Amazon.
Amazon seems pretty fair.
I mean, Amazon is, I don't know, I can't explain it.
They're less emotional.
So if you don't do something illegal, I don't know though, I have been kicked off a lot.
I mean, we had a payment processor go down in March and we had to rebuild all of our subscribers for unauthorized.
So subscribe out there.
Yes.
Well, yes, everyone subscribe to Owen's show.
Definitely.
And I do have to go here, Sue, because I've got to do my stream, but I also want to shout out my new special, and I want you to check it out.
You can shout out as much.
I sense that you had animal work to do.
I can understand that.
I literally have to pull the milk out of animals' teats.
That's great.
They will get angry if I don't.
And an angry goat will nibble on anything.
I mean, they will nibble.
They're very nibbly.
Okay, talk about whatever you want to advertise, please.
Yeah, so we recorded this special and I wanted it to be clean but also provocative.
And a great team of people.
My audience stayed with me throughout all of this stuff.
And that's the hope aspect of this whole story.
It is all based on consent.
And if a lot of people want to get out of that more satanic world, I recommend going a little bit at a time.
Grow a plant.
Figure out how it works.
Expect that you won't be promoted.
OwnBenjamin.com, it's called Must Be Nice, and it's available only through there.
It'll never be on Netflix, it'll never be on YouTube.
It's family friendly, oddly, but I do address big issues.
If I address the trans issue, it's talking about caterpillars and butterflies.
Do butterflies ever want to go back to being a caterpillar?
You know, it's light.
It's more like, if you don't know what I'm talking about, you won't see what I'm talking about.
But if you do, it's pretty legit.
And so I recommend your audience check that out.
I'm going to check it out.
Owen, I've really enjoyed talking to you.
Do come back on the show again if you...
I'd love to.
This has been great.
Yeah, this has been awesome, man.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, it's been fun.
And I really envy you.
You're well done.
Well done for what you're doing.
It's really cool.
I'm trying, man.
I'm trying.
I mean, I made a lot of mistakes, but I'm trying.
No.
You've done the right thing.
And your reward will come.
Well, it will come on earth as well as in heaven, I believe.
So thank you.
Thank you, Owen, Benjamin.
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