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Um... Alistair.
Alistair Williams.
Me?
I'm so... I'm so excited.
I really am, actually.
Same?
We were having a conversation earlier on, and it still kind of applies.
I mean, even though you've changed the colour slightly, you still look a bit like a White Walker.
I know!
Did you know the camera set- I'm probably the same as you, like, with regards to technology.
If something works, I just never ever tinker with any settings, anything like that.
It's like, I just press on, the camera comes on, I'm happy with that.
You know what I mean?
So... I do.
And also our bar for works is really quite low.
Yeah.
Yep.
Listen, when something goes wrong with technology, it's, I could be out of action for three weeks, like no content, like, you know what I mean?
I'm just happy to, happy to be in the game.
I totally respect this.
I suppose somebody would say to me, I'm going to chuck loads of money at you so you can really improve your production values.
That hasn't happened yet, but yeah.
I'll take the money, but can I spend it on something else?
Yeah, just take the money, get a new horse or whatever.
A new saddle.
I don't know how much these things cost.
Now you're talking!
Right, yeah, I thought so.
You... I see you understand me!
I do, yeah, I think I do.
A horse would be such a good investment.
There you go, see?
In the traditional... in the modern sense of a complete waste of money, but kind of... No, no, no, because it might come in handy in a sort of apocalyptic scenario as well, you know what I mean?
Like, horse is the new car, if the grid shuts down.
I think we may have to talk about this stuff.
By the way, I...
Um, we haven't spoken so long that since we last spoke you, you won some kind of comedy award!
Listen...
Listen, it's the only comedy award that's voted for by the people in the audience.
So I was like, okay, this one I'll enter.
You know, and it's at the comedy store, the finals at the comedy store, which is one of the places that just sort of kicked me out kind of thing.
Yeah.
So I was like, oh, I get to go back there in a competition and walk out with a giant check and be like, see you guys and never come back again.
Sure.
Sure.
I was up for that one.
I was up for that one.
Big time.
Big time.
Did it happen?
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, British Comedian of the Year, Alastair Williams.
The British Comedian of the Year is an anti-vaxxer.
But that, okay, I want to hear more about this.
I thought the payoff of your thing there was going to be to say, yeah, it never happened, because they weren't going to let it happen.
No, no, no, it happens!
But that's so good!
Listen, it's a crazy story, actually, in that one of the things that was taken away from me when I started, you know, looking for the truth, etc., was performing comedy at the comedy store.
I went there on my 18th birthday.
It was like, the fact that I was at the comedy store was like the biggest life win for me.
So to have that taken away, was kind of like one of the biggest things, one of the biggest, you know the sort of painful ones?
When you get stuff taken away from you, and that was one of the main painful ones.
And God gave me this feeling, that I'm gonna give this back to you, at some point.
Right?
And this is a crazy story, right?
So, I record all of my sets that I do, ever.
So, every single time I perform stand-up comedy, I record it on my phone.
You know, on your voice notes?
So I can listen to it.
And after I'd performed, they were announcing the winner, and they announced me as the winner, and I'd already decided I'm gonna go out there, and I'm gonna thank Jesus in front of this crowd, right?
So I go out there, I thanked Jesus in front of the crowd, and they all thought it was a joke, really.
I was like, I'd like to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and they were like... So it didn't have the effect that I was looking for, but I went to email myself that voice note, and it was voice note number 777.
And I just had this feeling that that was God saying, I've planned this whole thing.
This is the end.
You know what I mean?
Like, I've planned your whole career.
This is me giving back to you one of the things that you've lost.
Like, because now people respect me, like my parents and people, they respect me.
They're like, oh, you are a good comedian.
I thought you were just terrible.
And this whole cancellation thing, because this is what happens when you get cancelled.
No one believes That I'm cancelled for telling people the truth.
They just think, oh, he's rubbish.
Yeah, yeah.
That's why he's not working much.
He's rubbish.
You know, even your own family, especially your own family.
So, that bit was nice for me, to have the recognition of, oh, this guy actually can do this.
So, did you have to go on and do a set beforehand?
Yeah, of course, yeah.
And, so how did that work?
How did that go down?
It's like the effect, I'm not exaggerating, but the guy who writes the reviews for the comedy industry, He hates me.
He's never said anything good about me at all.
And after this night, I was like, I wonder what this guy's going to say.
Because he's going to have to review this.
I know he's in there, right?
And he was forced to say that, you know, I produced this set that was unbeatable and with like 76% of the audience vote, he won.
And then he goes on to just slag me off.
The next, like, three paragraphs.
Somehow.
Somehow he pulled out of there some negatives, but I was really excited to see them.
I'm like, what is this little bastard going to say?
Because he's going to have to, for once, he's going to have to say it went well.
He can't write a review.
It was like, Alistair Williams won with 77% and he was terrible.
Like, you know, he's going to have to reference the fact that I did well at some point, but he did really well, to be honest with you.
He really did actually find a way The website's called Chortle, you can read it.
He found lots of negatives to come up with, it's really incredible.
I'm gonna look this up.
It's a talented man.
Okay, so what about your fellow comedians?
I mean, I wonder about the atmosphere, the vibe, what was... They're nice, you know?
I've had lots of, you know, congratulations, loads of people have messaged me like, congratulations on your award, mate, you know, I think that's great, etc, etc, etc.
You know, it's really more the comedy industry that hate me.
And the reason they hate me is because they won't say that I'm good ever because of this content that I'm saying and the fact that I'm like you, right?
So they can't say that I'm good.
So they're pretending to be like these people that are evaluating comedy and saying who's good.
But the analogy I would use is, imagine if you're sort of a journalist for like the 100 meter sprint.
You know and and one of the guys is like Usain Bolt who's out there you know like 20 meters in front of everyone else and they're sort of riding like yeah he's not that good like you know what I mean it's it's embarrassing for them yeah that you know performing at this level and they can't say that I'm good but and as I get better and better it makes them look more and more it's more and more obvious that they're not looking for the good ones they're looking for
The people that you know tow the establishment line and talk about the climate crisis and you know all this kind of stuff so I'm a thorn in their side in that area and I'm liking that.
And so did you get a cheque?
I got a giant check, right, which I took home with me, which you don't need to, because obviously it's not a real giant check.
But, you know, I was like, I can't take a giant check home on the tube.
Everyone would be like, what's that?
But, you know, like London, nobody gave a shit.
Nobody even noticed.
Nobody even looked at me twice.
Everyone just had their head on their screen, you know.
But my wife was like, I can't wait to get the results.
Phone me as soon as you can.
Phone me as soon as I can.
And of course, as soon as I got the result, I phoned her.
And she was asleep, like with the new baby.
So she didn't have any idea that I won until I appeared at the end of her bed holding a giant cheque.
And she just sort of woke up and sort of double-taped.
It was like, wow!
Like, you know what I mean?
So that was actually incredible, finding out that way.
Apart from being one in the eye of your enemies... Yes.
What does this mean?
Well, it means I'm able to get more work now, you know, it means I'm able to, yeah, I'm able to say, you know, I'm the British Comedian of the Year.
It's quite a, it's quite a recognised sort of big award, but and also it's like, it's like a £10,000 prize, which means that, you know, I get to provide for my family properly for a little amount of time.
You could get a reasonable horse for that.
You could.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I'm sure I could.
Don't think about the fripperies.
James, it's already gone.
The money's already gone.
Don't start angling me to sell me a horse.
You reckless fool.
You spend it on baby food and stuff like that.
What's the money gone on?
I'm like, groceries?
Have you seen the prices out there?
You know what I mean?
It's boring, but...
No, no.
We'll go on a holiday or something, but you know what I mean?
One of the things that was taken away from me was my ability to provide for my family properly.
So that's, I feel, one of the things that God's giving back to me now.
It's like, look, you've served your time in the wilderness.
I know that you're willing to give up being a comedian in order to follow the truth.
So now you can have it back.
Most of the things that God takes from you, he will give them back to you eventually.
Even Job, eventually, just got a new family.
So I'm always like, wait a minute.
There's a new family in Joseph's.
Oh great, a new family.
You don't miss the old family.
But you know what I'm saying.
You get the stuff back.
No.
You're a very good example for sort of wavering Christians.
Because you know, as you know, I read the Psalms every day.
Yeah.
And the Psalms are really big on you.
Just do right by God and he'll do right by you.
He's really got your back.
He's just going to take care of you.
You are living proof of this because the last time we spoke you had a tax bill to pay.
Yep.
And lo, it appeared.
It appeared!
Some maniac sent me the money and now this.
But the maniac sent me the money and said God wants you to have this money right now and that was the part of the story for me that was like Okay, I can't get away from the fact that this is God, because who says to someone, God wants you to have this money right now, at a moment where I needed the money right then?
It was like, right up to the 89th minute, like death row, like, you know, the last minute call, it was like, God really wants you to have it till you give up, basically, till you end your own strength, and I'm like, well, I can't get myself out of this, you know, and then God appears at that moment, but You know, that's true, but I also am a, you know, a wavering Christian myself.
You know, who isn't a wavering Christian?
We all have our wavering Christian moments.
We'll come to your wavering-ness in a moment, but I think this is encouraging because, you know how, did you ever watch the Omen movies?
You know, Damien?
Only like little snippets when I was young.
This is the Son of the Devil.
You know, I remember it in Only Fools and Horses being referenced a lot, but I don't think I've seen the whole movie.
Okay.
Well, you see it in a lot of these movies, which are probably made by Satanists.
I mean, you know, like Roman Polanski did Rosemary's Babies.
And I think, you know, people who produced The Omen, I mean, it was said to have been Based on a book commissioned by some kind of Evangelical Christian.
The theme of the movie was basically Exus Christus, you know, he's kind of cool and he's got this.
So the devil child, Damien, has this network of satanic helpers.
So I think there's a nurse who looks after him and he's got the dog, the satanic dog that comes and looks after him in the garden and stuff like this.
The impression is giving you all around the world there are these kind of network of Satanists who are... but you see in the same way what it suggests the crazy guy who sent you the check is that there is a Christian equivalent and do you remember I'm just reading the bit in Matthew where we're getting close to the bit where Jesus comes to Jerusalem and you know you've got all the crucifixion and stuff and you think oh no I much preferred it when he was going around saying parables and healing people.
That picture's much more fun, you know.
It gets depressing now.
I know it has a happy ending, but anyway.
There's the bit where Jesus says to his disciples, just go to this place and you will find a man who will host my Passover, my last supper.
Or go here and you'll find a place with a donkey or an ass and a colt.
So there are all these people that just, you know, who turn up and provide the things.
And in the same way, your guy, the mystery guy who sent you the check, he's obviously... I don't know how they communicate with God.
They do.
They do.
One of the first things that I did was earmark a chunk of this money that I'm giving away, you know, and that's the most fun that I've had with this money, was just blessing people with it, just like randomly giving this person a thousand pounds, or randomly giving this, because you've got to give this stuff back, you know, you've got to You know, whatever you... This is another crazy story!
Thank you for reminding me.
So I gave away £1,000 to a mystery, anonymous person, right?
And I was like, right, I've given away £1,000.
And then I get to Comedy Unleashed, and this was the same week.
Bear in mind, the Bible says whatever you give away, God gives back to you.
So I get to Comedy Unleashed the same week.
The guy who runs Comedy Unleashed was like, Alastair, I've got something for you.
I was like, really?
What have you got?
And he pulls out of his pocket £1,000 in cash.
And he says, this is from a mystery benefactor who likes your work, and just here it is.
I was like, are you insane?
You're just giving me £1,000 in cash.
And this was a few days after I'd given away £1,000 of that money, and God was just like, nope, nope, there it is.
It boomeranged back to me.
Isn't that crazy?
That's... how did you select your random person?
I don't know really I just you know people just people that I knew like sort of in my sort of church circle that that I knew was sort of struggling with money or you know what I mean and it's just like people that I just thought could could could use it you know what I mean?
Yeah, but do you know what the really Christian thing to have done would have been?
Go on.
Give the money to Bill Gates.
Somebody like that.
Somebody that you weren't necessarily well disposed... I mean, can you imagine... You feel like he needs it?
Yeah, but can you imagine the selflessness that that would have required?
The amount of Christian forgiveness?
I guess so, yeah, yeah.
I would have been pouring hot coals upon his head, sort of, by doing it, but... It would have been next... It would have been next level.
I didn't think of that.
I don't think the wife would have gone for that.
If I'd have said, listen...
I've got a plan for this, Cash.
Don't you think it's one of the hardest requirements?
This bit about having to pray for your enemies and knock them?
Yeah, but it does say that by doing so you pour hot coals upon their head or something like that.
Does it?
Yeah, it does.
It's like because if you're praying for them even though they don't deserve it and they sort of unrequited it's like You know, their judgement is being sort of increased, sort of thing, and that's not supposed to be your motivation for doing it.
No.
But...
Yeah.
I honestly have no problem doing that.
I have no problem.
Because I sort of feel sorry for these people in a way.
You know, these celebrities, like Hollywood actors and stuff, I don't... I really look at them and just be like, wow, you guys are lost.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, you just look so soulless.
I saw Bono, a clip of Bono singing the other day.
Man, this guy looks so demonic.
He looks almost the same as Tony Blair.
There's a real, you know what I mean?
There's a real kind of like, Bro, I can see the demon manifesting in your appearance!
And I don't take any joy from this, but it's just like... Wow!
It's so... You can't not see it.
And it's a real palpable look of, you know... I don't even know how to describe it, but I guess you know what I mean.
Well, I do.
I mean, you certainly see the goat eyes with Tony Blair.
You see that there is a man who was sold long ago.
I mean, all of them.
A sort of pointy kind of look.
You know what I mean?
I really feel like you can just see evil just sort of manifesting itself on these guys' faces.
And it's a real sort of manic look.
There's a look in the eyes that's like, I know that I'm screwed here.
Like, I've got all this money and stuff, but I really know, on a subconscious level at least, they know, like, there's a bill at the end of this, and it's going to be the worst bill you ever received in your life, and it's going to last forever.
I mean the real thought of eternal suffering is, it's terrifying to me, you know, eternal suffering?
You can't even really get your head around how awful that's gonna be, you know what I mean?
That's what these people are gunning for.
That's why they can't, that's why they've made the decisions they have, because they can't conceive of forever, of eternal damnation.
Therefore, they think, yeah, but come on, come on, I mean, drugs and, you know, underage girls and, you know, speedboats.
I mean, I'm sure that's how they would suck it in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yikes.
They were.
This is the thing.
I mean, I keep coming back to it.
I think that Dr. Faustus is a pretty rubbish play.
He wasn't really on his game, I don't think.
But one thing Marlow gets absolutely right Is that the trivial things you get in return for your soul, you know, Dr. Faustus completely blows it, you know, Beelzebub, I think it is, I'm sorry, Mephistopheles, offers him all these things and, you know, and it's gone in a moment.
It's just, it's just idle fripperies of the world.
It's also tawdry and, you know.
And you're even enjoying it though.
These people even enjoying it.
They don't look like they're even enjoying it.
You know, it's like never enough.
I do find that as I get older I look back on you know the drugs I've taken and stuff like that and I think it was there was never really a moment where I thought this is fantastic or maybe it lasted for about a second or two but it was never like as good as it was supposed to be did you find that?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And then there's always a sort of come down afterwards, you know, where you're just sort of like, oh, what am I doing, etc.
And I'm sure everyone knows these people who have it in their life who they sort of validate their life usually by going out listening to rave music and taking drugs, right?
And that was their thing.
I listen to the music and I take the drugs.
If you don't get off that train and you're still on it at like 40, it starts to become really, really bloody sad.
You know what I mean?
When you're sort of aging and you're still I'm taking the ecstasy and listening to the music and you can see them in their eyes and just go like, help!
You know?
You've got to come off from that at some point otherwise it starts to become a real sort of tragedy.
So, there's no longevity in it and it can be fun at the time.
Listen, the devil's got lots of great stuff to offer you on the surface of it but the real lie is that his plan for your life is more fun than the plan that God has for you.
You know, like, my old plan for my life was to be a famous comedian and be in Hollywood and be on Joe Rogan and all this.
I'm having way more fun in my life doing what God wants me to do, working in my church cafe, making people breakfast, you know, than I ever would have done.
You know, serving myself.
So the real lie is that what the devil can offer you is going to be more fun while you're alive.
Most of the time it's not.
If you really get in tune with what God wants you to do, you won't experience happiness like doing what God made you to do.
God made you to do something.
You're not going to be more happy taking ecstasy than doing what your maker made you to do.
That's the real lie that the devil's got out there.
Joe Rogan, Mmm.
If he said, Alistair, I can't do a Joe Rogan impersonation because I don't listen to him.
Yeah.
I don't know how he goes.
Alistair!
Alistair!
Not bad.
Will you come on my show?
Dude.
Bro.
I smoke weed.
Yeah.
No.
Would you?
No chance.
No.
I'd be too terrified.
I'd be too terrified to go on there.
Knowing like, Dude, you're- that's like, you wanna come and sit in the belly of the beast, you wanna come and sit on the most famous- you don't think- these people, James, that control the whole world, you don't think that the Joe Rogan podcast is in their wheelhouse?
Like, that's their blind spot?
The biggest podcast of all time?
Yes!
That's their weakness!
Oh, they're like, oh, we should look at Joe Rogan!
Oh no, what a- oopsie!
No chance.
The guy who's getting 100 million a year, 200 million a year from Spotify and all his guests are like the Trigonometry Boys and you know what I mean?
It's like, get lost.
Get out of here.
You mean the Trigger Pod Boys have been on Joe Rogan?
Yeah, yeah.
Have you not seen that?
No!
Dude, that was the point where I'm like, okay, I don't believe this anymore.
I used to believe that Joe Rogan's this great comedian and he wants to have on all the best comedians in the world.
At the point when Constantine was called, I'm like, okay, you're not sitting there going, this guy's comedy is so good, can we get Constantine Casale on the podcast?
Like, no chance.
No chance!
Sorry!
And then I found out the show's got a booker.
The Joe Rogan Experience has a booker, someone who books it.
And, you know, we can go deep into, like, the Joe Rogan podcast.
And I watched this great video called Matthew North, Joe Rogan Exposed.
He's this young guy who did this big long video on Joe Rogan's sponsors and how his associations with Elon Musk and stuff like that.
He died shortly after doing this big expose.
You know, this guy in his 20s.
They do it all the time, Alastair.
It's normal.
It's normally of myocarditis, which is completely normal in 20 year olds.
It is now.
It is now.
But I wouldn't go, man.
I'd be too terrified.
So he died for doing the Joe Rogan expose?
I mean, that's a link that I'm going to ask people to either make or not make themselves.
I don't even know how he died, etc.
But I know that I watched this video of a guy in his 20s, and he brilliantly strips apart the Joe Rogan stuff.
He's got a producer called, like, Young Jamie.
It's like, oh, Young Jamie pulled this up, right?
So he goes into, like, he's like, have you noticed how Young Jamie is not that particularly that good at his job?
And he gives you all these clips of where, you know, the podcast is not that well produced.
Like, Young Jamie is not a great producer.
And he was like, now this is the most biggest podcast in the world.
Now, why do you think Young Jamie is sitting there when he's obviously not very good?
And then he goes into, like, this guy's father's, like, in the military, in the CIA, and Young Jamie's got all these links to, like, you know, the establishment.
And that really opened my eyes because I was like, oh yeah, I can't deny that Young Jamie is...
Not the best producer in the world, and you should have the best producer in the world if this is the biggest podcast in the world.
And there's just numerous other things that he dives into that someone who's awake and watches this two-hour video, you come away from it going, oh, you see the Joe Rogan podcast completely differently.
Completely differently than you did before.
The things that they kill you for, or not.
I mean, there was the Canadian, again, young guy, comedian, did sketches.
Do you see this?
He died.
I think he was Canadian.
Yikes, what did he die of?
Yeah, sort of late 20s, well, you know, probably hung himself from a hotel doorknob, that kind of thing.
Is that this Isaac Cappy guy?
Is that who you're referring to?
No, not him.
You know who that is though, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was, yeah, he definitely wasn't killed.
No, no, no, no, definitely not.
Definitely not.
I mean, I It's quite difficult sometimes.
People that you were planning on getting on the podcast suddenly, like Rosa Quarry, who exposed all the kind of the UN Agenda 2030 stuff.
She got cancered.
I even wonder about people like Michael S. Heiser.
What do you think about him?
I think he's great.
OK.
Do you like his stuff?
I don't know who that is.
Oh, check him out.
Who's that?
You're going to love him.
Divine Council.
All right.
Psalm 82.
He's really good.
I tell you what, he's quite like you in the sense that he can talk very seriously and informally about Christianity and about scripture and stuff.
But he does it in a kind of cool way.
Right.
It's great.
He's really worth it.
I mean he deals with stuff that...
I mean, I think that Christianity is the best rabbit hole.
It's got, there's so much stuff you're trying to work out.
Scripture is just, there's so much interesting stuff, because so much is unsaid or said only sketchily, then you have to work out the bits that are missing.
You know, the book of Enoch, for example, the bits that have been tampered with, the bits, so on.
If you look at Psalm 82, it's quite interesting.
God talks about, you know, I've made you as God so you shall die as men or something like that.
It's basically about the Divine Council.
Okay.
And essentially God gives areas of the world to be governed over by his kind of junior, you know, God's in charge of the Divine Council, but he's got these sort of junior people.
To deal with different bits.
But they've been rubbish.
That's what the song's about.
He says, look, you haven't looked after the poor.
You haven't looked after the orphans.
You're toast.
You're going to pay for this.
Anyway, Michael S. Heiser is very good on this and he's very scholarly and at the same time accessible.
Sounds good.
You know this content I am loving at the moment?
Very AF.
Oh, she's fantastic.
Wonderful.
Miri AF is on fire!
She is!
She is!
She lives up to that AF in her name.
She does!
What a great one as well.
The fact that it's just her initials.
Man, that's divine.
Divine intervention right there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You landed on that one.
I think God doesn't mind an implied swear word in that context.
I think he bloody well hopes so.
I think he likes it.
Like her stuff on Madeleine McCann's thesis about how it's like out there and she'll turn up at some point maybe and it'll all be about chipping pets and children it was brilliant man I was like oh yeah oh yeah You know, she has the same thesis as me, like, anything that's in the news, anything that's in the news is there for a reason.
The news doesn't report what's going on, that's absolute nonsense, okay?
People are, excess deaths are through the roof.
You see them reporting on that?
No, they don't report what's going on.
If they report on something that's going on, it's because they want to report on this special thing that's going on.
So the fact that Madeleine McCann's got all this media attention, like, Millions of kids go missing every year.
They don't give a shit.
You know, it's like there's something brewing there.
And I was like, yeah, that's a very good point that I never, I never noticed before.
But there's some payoff for the establishment on this McCann thing.
Who knows what?
But there's something.
She's been fantastic on Dr. Oxford.
As you have, by the way.
I enjoyed your... Thanks.
It was a nice, you know, all these people dying, but luckily Julia Hartley Brewer was there to point out that they were doing fine.
She deserves a name check, to be fair.
She's got such a comedy name as well, you know.
That's Julia Hartley Brewer!
It just snaps off the tongue, Julia Hartley Brewer, in that respect.
You can't let these people have their propaganda pieces without, you know, sort of popping that balloon, if you know what I mean.
You know?
It's so... When you actually talk, like the face... Remember the face shield?
How it says face shield on it, in giant letters?
And it's like, as if you're gonna confuse that for any other... Oh, is this a croquet bat, or...
Like, it's obviously a face shield, but they write, face shield, so you just look like an absolute wally, you know?
And when you notice things like that, it's like, come on, guys.
Come on, no one needs to look that bloody stupid in a pandemic, you know what I mean?
No, I know.
It's, it's, yeah.
Yeah.
A shield.
Oh.
I'm sorry, I've got this thought in my face of a mask, mask, you know, like the... Double mask, yeah.
The heroic doctor, doctoress in that, or was she a nurse in that series?
Breathless, breathtaking.
But the...
The rash, the mask rash.
Oh yeah.
I love Bob's point that was like, listen, didn't we live through this thing?
Then why do we need to be reminded like 18 months later?
You know, it's like they need to do this because nobody experienced any of this crap.
No one did.
I remember, because I had a child be born in the hospital around this sort of time, and because we were in the hospital for sort of five days to birth a child, because they do everything they can to stop you giving birth to a child when you go to the hospital to give birth to a child these days, the security were just up my ass, you know, every time I left the hospital, like, where are you going?
What are you doing?
It's like, there's no one in this hospital, right?
It's empty, but you're saying on the news that these hospitals are full, and they just didn't want people to figure out that It's quite incredible what they did.
So you're confirming that, because I've had lots of people in my various social media groups say this, that they went into hospitals, you know, some of them barged in just out of curiosity and got past the security and said, nah, empty.
Empty?
Well, they can't keep you out of the hospital when you're having a kid, can they?
You've got to go in there, so they had to let us in there.
Can you imagine who gave the order?
This must have come from somebody.
very sort of like, where are you going, mate?
What are you doing?
It's like, why would you have this level of security?
Why would you?
Why don't you want, you know, you've never done this in hospitals before.
Like, it was really, really strange.
And it just sort of rubber stamped for me that like, okay, yeah, there's some real nonsense going on here, you know?
Can you imagine who gave the order?
I mean, this must have come from somebody.
Somebody must have said, the ruler of this world, you know, That guy, that's the quarterback of this, no doubt.
It's so huge, James.
It could only be him.
Do you think, um, do you think that the devil has, do you think he's, he's got a physical presence?
I mean, do you think, do you think you, you can see the devil with, with his horns and his, Yeah.
I mean, I know of exorcists that say, I've had a conversation with, you know, Lucifer.
You know, I know of trustworthy sort of religious characters who would say, I've had a conversation with this guy.
You know, he's a, he's a real guy.
It says in the Book of Revelation, I know where Satan's seat is.
You know, so I think he does have like a... That's what I was going to ask you about.
The actual seat.
You think, where do you think it is?
The Vatican's a good one, or anywhere in that sort of area, uh, you know, Middle East-y.
I think, uh, I can't remember, I watched a video a while ago where they sort of narrowed it down to, I think it was maybe a place in Turkey, perhaps, or something, but, you know, he's got enough, he's got enough guys doing his work.
He's not going to have a seat in Turkey.
I don't, I can't remember, it might not be Turkey, I just can't remember.
I watch so many of these videos that I can't remember all the, all the stuff, you know.
I'm with you.
Lucifer is clearly identified, but when you get to Satan, people point out Al-Satan or whatever.
Satan is just a kind of generic for the enemy.
There was never a kind of an adversary.
So, I'm curious about this.
Certain of the devils are identifiable, you know, Moloch.
Is Murloc the same as Barley, don't they?
Well, he's got a hierarchy that's the same as God's hierarchy, just inverted, so there's a sort of, there's a whole sort of power structure of, you know, satanic beings on the earth that are in charge of, you know, this country or that country or this country, so, you know, I don't, I try not to trouble myself with Satan's kingdom too much, because you can get a little too excited about it and, you know, focus on his disgusting actics.
Too much.
I had a period of that back in the old Q days where my eyes were just first opened to the, you know, the child trafficking stuff and the celebrities and all their adrenochrome and all that stuff.
You can really lose a couple of weeks looking at all the grossness, you know?
Yeah, you could.
You could.
Easily.
And I did.
I did.
But it's striking a balance between that And going, yeah, but the Queen was lovely, and I think the royal family, you know, they're trying hard, they're just... What's going on with them, James?
What's your opinion on that?
You know, all the... What's happening here?
There is... Okay.
I can confirm... You know, if you move in these circles, James, you're on the hunt.
Yeah, I do.
I... Actually... Ask them.
Ask them.
I, um... I can confirm that weird shit is happening in royal circles.
So... Nice.
Nice.
You heard it here first.
But I don't know.
I sort of opened this up to speculation in my Telegram channel and I have to say the responses were so disappointingly earthbound and normie.
there was a lot of information they clearly did not have on the background on, on who these people are and what they do.
You know, they, they just went with the kind of daily mail version of events, which wasn't really helpful.
I think there was something very, very weird about that event that people caught on, on video, the horses, white horses, black.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's a symbol for something.
The, the covered flag, whatever it was, I always think, if we're watching this thing, right, I always think, hang on, so you want me to bloody well know about these horses.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
If ever anything is uncovered, I'm always torn between, have you been caught at it here?
Have we seen this horse video that you don't want us to see?
Or are we supposed to see this horse video?
Do you see what I'm saying?
Like, the enemy's pretty good at that.
I agree.
There's that argument.
At the same time, there is...
We live in a world where everyone has a camera on them on their mobile phone.
True.
And people are filming stuff all the time.
It seems to me not unlikely that a passerby would have caught this thing.
Fine.
Yeah.
No, I like that.
Okay, fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not too paranoid sometimes in the stuff that I see.
It's hard to know.
I came upon, somebody forwarded me some really next level stuff the other day, which I hadn't really looked into before, about the Grey Pope and the Black Pope and the White Pope.
I saw you had a thread on your Telegram channel.
Yeah, well, yeah, but nobody bit.
Because everyone was too busy biting the, um, the royal one.
Nobody bit.
Right, OK.
But I think that that one is much more interesting.
And I don't know whether this will be the thing that gets me killed.
Um... So, who's the... So, just, for people who don't know... Yeah.
The black, the grey, the... What are these?
Like, is that Gandalf and... You know what I mean?
How's this work?
Yeah, yeah, it's like Gandalf the White.
The black at the top and the grey is in the middle, or... How's it work?
No, no, no... Oh, no!
You couldn't be more, or you could not be more mistaken.
Oh, you could not be more mistaken.
Okay.
The White Pope is, you know, Bergoglio, whatever he's called.
Pope Francis, or the Anti-Pope, as he probably is really.
The Black Pope is the head of the Jesuits.
Um, who are clearly, you know, 10 acres of bad terrain.
I mean, they really, they are just, I mean, just, but then there is he, he who cannot be named, there is the great, great Pope.
And he is the Sion of, um, Sion of, One of the old Roman families going right back to Imperial.
And it seems to be the case.
I mean, if you go with this theory, because there are various theories, aren't there?
You know, there's, there's, there's the satanic bloodlines who've got names like Rockefeller and, and Collins and stuff.
Okay.
Then you've got people say, aha, but you don't know.
These are just kind of.
Minor players compared to the, and then they named the true 10, 12 families.
Most of which tend to have Italian names either from the, uh, sort of the period of the, of the Borgias, you know, Venice and the Venetian empire, or going back earlier to right back to ancient Rome.
Right.
And then, of course, you then ask, well, hang on, what about the Egyptians?
You know, because they're the ones.
What about Babylon?
It's a rabbit hole in which you could immerse yourself for a very long time.
I find it's a good idea to never try and get involved with these Families, you know what I mean?
The last thing I want to do is any sort of expose.
You know what I mean?
It's like, I'm not trying to tackle these guys.
I'm gonna stay in my own lane here.
Do you know what?
Nurse Dr. Campbell?
I'll have a pop at him.
Yeah.
Satanic, bloodline, Grey Pope?
I'm not going up against that guy.
No.
You are so absolutely right.
I do not ever, ever want to meet the Grey Pope.
No.
No, just... I've seen pictures of him and he does not look like the sort of person who'd say, Yeah, you're alright mate.
I don't mind you talking about me on your podcast with Alastair Williams.
You are totally forgiven.
I'm not going to kill you!
Let God handle these guys.
That's who their opponent is.
You don't want to put yourself in the piggy in the middle there.
Stay in your lane.
There is apparently.
I keep trying to work out what psalms to learn.
I'm just doing a thank you psalm at the moment.
Psalm 116 because God likes gratitude.
He likes praise.
He does.
Every prayer should open With thankfulness and praise.
That's how you get God's direct attention.
I recently relearned this and it's changed my prayer life.
You have to open with thankfulness and praise and then you're given direct access to God through the courts of praise, I think it is.
It's a formula that you need to adhere to if you're praying.
That's the thing, you have to You have to know what the rules are.
Yes.
Because God clearly has a personality and has requirements.
He's not just this kind of gooey bundle of sort of lamb-like love.
Nope.
Hope?
He's got that.
God is not a jerk.
It's not a pushover.
No, he's not.
My wife's reading the Old Testament, and so am I actually right now, and she said she prayed to God and said, God, I really struggle with the Old Testament.
Come on, it's a bit of hard work.
And God said to her, yeah, but you really get to know my character from the Old Testament.
And I was like, Yeah, it's really helped me with my reading of the Old Testament.
You really do get to know God's characters in the Old Testament more than in the New Testament.
And, you know, he's a pretty serious guy.
A pretty serious guy.
You have to toe the line.
Otherwise, you know, it's going to get weird.
You do.
Which is why he sent his son to kind of moderate some of that.
Because Jesus, although he's part of the Trinity, at the same time he has a different personality from the Old Testament God, I think.
Very true, yeah, well he's, you know, he's enabling us to meet God's standard by just believing in him, which is really the most incredible thing you could ever do for us, which is say, someone else has paid for you, everything you've done wrong, someone else has paid for it, you know, all you have to do is believe that he died for you, nevertheless, You know, a huge part of the world is just like, nah, not interested.
You know what I mean?
Like, people that get mad at God, like, look at all the bad stuff that's going on.
Like, he's literally made the provision for you to go to heaven forever off the back of something his own son has done, i.e.
getting crucified for you.
Like, people that think they're going to sort of sneer at God, like Stephen Fry with his whole like, oh if I meet God I'm going to tell him, oh you, you arse.
You're not Stephen.
You're not.
That plan will evaporate instantly in the presence of the Almighty.
Like Stephen Fry really believes, he's going to be like, I love some God, here's another thing, I host QI, you listen to me.
Good luck with that one bro.
Good luck with that one.
You know what I mean?
That's going to be one hell of a realisation when Stephen Fry goes, oh actually I'm not going to talk down to God.
I'd quite like to be there.
Far in the wall?
Yeah.
I'm not supposed to be.
I'm not supposed to enjoy other people's calamity.
But...
You know, I do think that you're in for a rude awakening if you think you're going to tell God off at the judgment.
I'm not going to go that way, Steve.
When you pray, are you praying to God or to Jesus or are they interchangeable?
I usually pray to God the Father, but I'm always very careful to thank God for Jesus.
But some people say Lord Jesus and they pray to Jesus.
And I don't really have a good answer for you other than cover all bases.
Yeah, I like that answer because I think it's… I generally appeal to the dad, but I'm very cognizant and appreciative of, you know, Jesus.
Obviously, he's kind of our But it's tricky, isn't it?
Because we're both Christians but we both don't have a clear answer to that question and you'd think that would be something that all Christians would have a definitive answer to.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot to learn in being a Christian.
There's a lot to learn and it's very hard to know all of it.
You know, all the time.
There's a line in Psalm 51 that the sacrifice of God is a troubled spirit.
A broken and contrite heart shalt thou not despise.
And I think it's part of the deal to be in this state of slight uncertainty about You know, you're constantly meant to be assessing, because by assessing it, you're thinking about it all the time and trying to... Meditating on it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think there's also some things that God says are secret things that won't be revealed.
And I think sometimes people spend a lot of time, like for example, the exact time that Jesus is coming back.
It's very clear that God says, no one knows this apart from me.
You know?
So people who are like, I think he's coming back now and this, it's like, you are a waste.
If God decides to keep something a secret...
You're not going to figure it out.
And another thing, people pray for things that... God says that the Middle East is going to be war between, you know, the Jews and the Muslims, essentially.
So people are like, I pray for peace in the Middle East.
It's like, if you're praying for something that God says isn't going to happen, there's very little point to that.
You know, you're wasting a lot of energy there.
If God's Word says, you know, this will happen or that will happen, there's no point praying for, you know, that to not happen.
But you can still pray for some sort of, you know... Yes!
Not... Yeah, you can pray within the parameters of what God tells you is going to happen.
You can pray within those parameters, but there's no point praying for something that God says you're not going to get.
You know what I mean?
I... Despite that key passage in the New Testament where we are warned that only God knows the hour and, you know, you've just got to keep your candles ready for when it happens.
I do kind of think we are living in end times.
Same.
Oh, 100%.
I'm shocked that more Christians aren't like, oh, this is it.
We've given so many signs of the end of the age.
We're given so many signs.
And how people aren't spotting the signs and the great falling away You know how people, like Pride Month.
There's a whole month where we celebrate the thing that God hates the most.
You know?
In the whole world.
And the symbol for Pride Month is this rainbow, which is a symbol that God gave us that however bad things get, I won't destroy the earth again.
And so you're literally holding that in God's face.
You can't destroy the earth again!
As you're like, and I'm taking it in the backside, and it's like, whoa.
Whoa.
Like, this is really, like, really spitting in God's face here.
Like, this isn't going to be allowed for too much longer, I wouldn't have thought, but I don't know.
That's a... Do you know, I hadn't thought that about the rainbow.
I mean, um... It's a symbol, James.
They didn't pluck this out of nowhere, and all of a sudden it's the symbol for being a homosexual.
Like, there's a link there, there's something being done there, People have been led to believe that they just took the rainbow because it's all sort of fruity.
No.
No, they didn't.
There's something being done there on a spiritual level that most people that don't read the Bible, and I'm sure most people on the pride marches, that the Bible isn't their number one go-to book.
So they don't realise perhaps that they're really, really going out to infuriate God as much as they can.
I'm sure most of them are unknowingly getting involved in that, but I think people are being led into foolishly Provoking God, basically.
That is not a good idea, because you and I know, as does your wife now she's reading the Old Testament, that God's wrath is quite a thing.
It is quite a thing.
And at the end it's going to be a real, real powerful thing.
Yeah, it's coming.
It's getting ready to be uncorked.
Like somebody, um, Derek Prince, you like him?
Yeah, I do.
He said he has a feeling that God's judgment will come in several stages and he says the preliminary judgment, he says, it's his hypothesis that that's already begun.
We're in the preliminary judgments of God.
Right now.
And then there's the intermediate judgment, and then there's final judgment.
But his opinion, and he's a very, very learned Bible guy, is that the preliminary judgment is already underway.
You know, why everything keeps getting worse.
Yeah, I've noticed this.
You can't not.
When I went to Mount Athos with a friend from university, so this would have been late 80s, early 90s.
Real working class trip there.
Mount Athos with a friend from university.
Well, the thing is, you had to get, I mean, I wasn't interested in going.
He said, do you want to come with me to Mount Athos?
I said, where?
And he said, well, it's this peninsula where no females have been allowed since the Emperor Constantine declared it so in the fourth century.
And it's these monasteries where these monks live and and Uh, you've got to get a special, if you're not Greek Orthodox, you've got to get, or if you're not Orthodox, you've got to get a special pass from.
So I got one from somebody called Callistos Ware.
Um, um, and went to Mount Athos for three days.
They even have different, different clocks.
The clocks are set at like, you know, quarter of an hour or half an hour earlier or later, later than everyone else.
And you go and talk to the monks and the monks were all.
They were preoccupied with end times, and I was thinking, yeah, well, you would think about end times if you're in a monastery, in a medieval monastery.
But it didn't really register at the time, because I was a young man thinking more about, when am I going to get out of this peninsula so I can have a beer?
Makes sense.
Yep.
Sounds different to my life.
They wouldn't let you go swimming there.
Right.
Okay.
Those monks.
Monk hilljoys.
Preoccupied at the end times.
Want to have a swim.
Yeah, fair enough.
Whereas now I think I'd like to go and live in one of those monasteries and...
Might be a good place.
Might be a good place to ride it out.
I'd certainly have a number of questions for those monks if I was to rock up there now.
I'm way more interested now than I would have been about, you know, end times, prophecy, that sort of thing.
I love a bit of end times prophecy, me.
Love it.
Love it.
Great joy in it.
Bizarrely.
It's quite opaque though, that's the problem.
Yeah, it's one of the hardest ones to get your head around.
You can't just read one passage and know what's going on.
You need to read Daniel and the Old Testament and the New Testament.
God's made it, so you really have to get your teeth into it if you want to.
But it's quite reassuring that all the bad stuff that's happening in the world now, God has told us that this stuff will happen towards the end.
So the worse things get for me, the more I'm like, oh yeah, God's in control, because just like he said, You know, this is happening, now this is happening, now this is happening.
So it just reaffirms to me that God is in complete control of the situation rather than being like, oh no, you know, things are getting worse.
It's like, okay, things are getting worse.
Just like you said, Lord.
Nice one.
You know?
Yes.
I mean, obviously he's in charge, but do you not ever sort of ask yourself why he Put us through all this.
Okay, so he creates this amazing, amazing earth.
Yeah.
Probably flat, I'm beginning to think.
Yeah.
With a dome.
Lean in that way.
Yeah.
Lean in that way.
What was the thing that pushed you in that direction?
Well, the first thing was when, in the Bible, God says, I sent my angels to four corners of the earth.
And I thought to myself, You know, if I gave you a globe and said, point me to the corner on this, you'd struggle, right?
And I happen to believe that God means what he says and says what he means.
And then, this is a bizarre one, you know how the planets are all named Mars, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, right?
They're all named after Roman gods.
Yeah.
But you never really sort of questioned that.
But then I was like, wait a minute, why are they all named after gods?
Are you telling me the Romans discovered these planets?
And that's what Google says, by the way, that the Romans were just like, oh, look, look.
There's a gas giant!
Several hundred thousand million light years away.
Like, it's very odd that the planets would be named after Roman gods.
So that started me thinking, hang on, maybe there's some skullduggery going on here with... Now I'm not even sure.
Now I'm not even sure that there's planets.
The Bible doesn't say anything about planets.
I don't believe anything anymore that I'm told.
I certainly don't believe we went to the moon.
I think that's the biggest sort of...
obvious crap anyone who looks into the moon landing and what the official story is that they taped over the footage like like it was an old episode of Baywatch it's like there's no way that we went to the moon okay I'm not sold on that and then
I'm starting to question the whole, the whole thing, the whole, you know, outer space, like, I know it sounds nuts, but I'm just so used to being lied to, that I just, I really struggle to believe that it's not one giant deception, the whole thing, and... Yeah, yeah, um... Why are you standing?
So, well, I'm, I'm kind of, I'm with you, bro.
Right, fine, done.
Flat Earth finished.
Well, you see, I really... One more thing, emergency flight paths.
You know you said flat earth?
Like the emergency flight paths?
So some guy did a video where it's like, so if you're flying from A to B, right, where the plane would land in an emergency is here.
And they show you that, and then they map it out on a globe, and they go, that doesn't make any bloody sense, because why would the emergency, if you're halfway between Argentina and London, for example, why would you land here?
And then they do it on the flat Earth model, and it makes sense on the flat Earth model, and it's like, oh, that's a good one.
Oh, I like that one.
It's a good one.
Because you can practically just see it.
Or you look at the United Nations flag.
Map on the wall?
I listened to your podcast on it, obviously.
You know, with the guy who sort of went into it.
I think it was the history guy, right?
The guy who does the books about the alternate history.
I think, did he talk about Flat Earth on your podcast for a bit?
He did.
Yes, he did.
But I haven't yet got... There was one guy who emailed me saying, have me on your podcast, have me on your podcast.
After about three emails, I wrote back and said, yeah, yeah, come on the podcast.
And you never replied.
Weird.
Which is a bit, which is a bit rubbish.
That was, that was, was that, maybe that was the Eric, Eric Weiss, the Flat Earth guy.
I don't know.
Anyway, I'm a bit sketchy, but I would like, Somebody to give me the chapter and verse on Antarctica because I know yeah interesting Antarctic is a big reason like that.
We can't go there all this stuff and and someone's asked me Well, why would they bother with all this, you know?
Why what's the point of the deception and I said listen if you got to Antarctica and there was a giant bloody ice wall there Would you immediately start the thing?
Hang on?
God might have made this world.
And you would.
Like, if you were in a giant, like, enclosed ice wall, you'd be like, okay.
Something's up here.
There's something bigger than me that's made this.
And I think it would... If you were on a flat Earth, it would make you be like, okay.
God might be real.
I think everything else is designed to make us feel like we're nothing.
We're just an explosion of nothing and we're just a rock flying through space and there's nothing special about Earth.
There's also all these other planets and you just happen to be one like, you know, the whole thing is built around there's nothing going on here.
Life's just one big joke, you know?
Which then gets you thinking.
about all the fields of study and learning out there, which are entirely spurious and which are populated by charlatans.
So, for example, if, as I increasingly believe, space is fake and gay, that means that Brian Cox, TV... Oh yeah!
You know, it means he's fake.
Neil deGrasse Tyson and those guys, yeah.
But also it means Brian May, his degree in astronomy, which he cut short or something, or was it?
Right.
You know, to become the Queen's guitarist and then save badgers.
Sure, sure.
The guy's name, Neil Armstrong or whatever, who's the guy who went to the moon and looks really strange about it?
There's clips of him saying, oh yeah, we never went, or stuff like that.
Buzz Aldrin.
That's the guy.
Buzz Aldrin told the little girl.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he sort of is a recluse.
He hides himself away.
He never comes out.
You know, it's like, is that the behaviour of a guy that went to the moon?
Like, something like 94% of all the astronauts that have been to space are Freemasons.
All three of the astronauts that went to space are Freemasons.
Like, the stuff just keeps rolling in.
You know.
Well, it would be like you.
If you didn't win the comedy award, having to spend the rest of your life acting as if you did, you'd be living a lie the whole of the rest of your life.
And imagine the burden that would exert on you.
Especially the fact that basically they're disproving God is what they're doing, if you ask me, by saying, we've been to space, we sat on the moon.
You know, I think the, what's the Nazi space scientist?
Wernher von Braun, whatever his name is.
Wernher von Braun, yeah.
On his tombstone is a psalm, can't remember the exact number, but it's the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth his handiwork.
On that guy's tombstone.
That's Psalm 19.
Thank you.
Right, so, will you think that this Nazi He's a big Bible guy, this Nazi.
He loves the Psalms, this Nazi.
Right?
That, for me, is a two-finger.
It's like, hey, oh, the firmament shows the glory of God?
Well, I went to the moon, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, no you didn't.
You see, there's a good line later on in that psalm.
It goes, In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, which cometh forth as a bridegroom out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a giant to run his course.
It goeth forth from the uttermost part of the heaven, And runneth about unto the end of it again, and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
So it's kind of, it's kind of saying that, you know, it's not, the sun is not this ball, it's this kind of, it's this, it's not this burning... The psalm reading is so good for you by the way, you've got such a great knowledge of God's Word just by studying the psalms.
That must be a really better thing in your life!
It's absolutely great, because the Psalms are like the rest of the Bible condensed into one book.
And and yeah, it's they're really good.
They're really interesting I mean, I mean as you know, I'm on a mission to kind of make everyone read this mission.
It's a great great mission, you know And it's also a I'd do a church on Sunday stream where we just read the Bible every Sunday And I started the Psalms last Sunday a bunch of people like this is the best reading we've ever done It's like yeah, because it's the Psalms, you know, they're just short punchy Hit, hit, hit, you know, you're trying to grind through Leviticus.
It's not quite the same, you know.
When you're reading, so I'm going through the New Testament again, and when you read it when you know the Psalms, you realise that so many of the, when Jesus is debating with the Pharisees and stuff, and he says, do you not know that blah blah blah, and he quotes the Psalms, and it's really great when you know the bit he's quoting.
Yes!
Jesus is such a badass.
When you realise that he was talking to these religious leaders and just quoting the Psalms at them, just bang, bang, bang, bang.
There's no wonder these crowds were just like, this guy's destroying these, you know, holy and now religious types.
No wonder they executed Jesus.
They had no choice.
It's embarrassing.
I think also, the more you understand the world, of what's going on in the world now, the more you understand his wrath.
against the Pharisees.
These are really, really dodgy people.
He knows how evil they are.
Rude of vipers yeah yeah yeah he knows and he also knows that there's a greater punishment for those like if you're in a position where you're you're leading people there's a greater judgment that's coming your way so you have to be real careful if ever you're saying to people you know God wants you to this and God wants you to that because okay well you know you're in a position now where you're
You're not just making a mistake you're actually trying to lead others and you can get in real trouble doing it that way especially if you're you know that's why I say I feel really sorry for these people you know these big celebrities and stuff that are just leading millions of people off a spiritual cliff and it's like wow you're really tabling up this bill you know you're really putting some expensive items on this bill guy from you know the creator of heaven and earth
And I really feel sorry for them, I do, because I can't, my mind can't even fathom the punishment that they're going to receive.
Well they're already, I mean they're even, they're suffering it even now.
Did you listen to, I've paywalled it because it's just too shocking for, but I mean I'll give you, I'll give you a link if you, the Jesse Zobota.
Is this the, is this the satanic?
Yeah, yeah.
Witch Queen?
I've been waiting for this one!
And I was like, oh, I've been teasing this one for years!
Where the effing hell is it?
It's behind a paywall!
Listen, I will give you the secret code.
Please.
It is going to just blow your mind.
But I found it so... We had to cut stuff out for libel, self-preservation reasons.
Yes.
But if half what she says is true, she's very good on things like Antarctica.
Like... Wow.
Like Leviathan lives down there.
I knew it!
Yeah.
I knew it!
The sea monster Leviathan lives down there.
I knew it!
And there are these... You know in some... Which one is it?
Lift up your gates, you everlasting doors.
That one.
Okay, yeah.
Which one is that?
Psalm 24?
No, not me.
Yeah.
There are these portals around the earth.
Particularly, there's quite a lot of them in Antarctica.
And the portals are what separate us from the spiritual realm.
You can reach the spiritual realm through these gates.
you can you can reach you can reach the spiritual realm through these gates and the only way of opening them is through praising okay the only way that the the The main way you get through them is by praising God.
He likes the praise and that magically opens them.
Interesting.
But the forces of darkness are incapable of praising God because congenitally, I mean, they cannot physically do it.
If you get somebody working for the devil, they cannot praise God.
Yeah.
Which is the only other way is to simulate it through sex magic.
And sex, yeah, exactly.
I mean, this is, this is why, this is why... God's in a praising God.
Sex magic.
Yes, yes.
But their rituals, their, their satanic rituals are a kind of, a sort of evil simulacrum of... Right.
Anyway, you know, take it or leave it.
I think this stuff is too crazy to, to, to...
I can believe it yeah what I know about Hollywood tells me that there's a lot of this weird sex magic going on well you see okay so when you I think it was I think it was some Jesse who told me about the the black mass complete with I think sacrifice, human sacrifice, that took place in that Gaudi Cathedral.
It's a rather spooky cathedral, the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona.
And essentially a who's who of Hollywood celebs and politicians, you know, international actors.
I don't need to name the names.
You will know them already.
Mm-hmm.
And, again, this rings true.
These people, their pizza parties, their... I mean, imagine, that's where you get your kicks.
It's just like... They can't even sleep unless they cause somebody to stumble.
Exactly.
You know, they're... yeah.
I can fully imagine it.
I don't want to fully imagine it, but I can.
No, one shouldn't.
There is that bit in the epistles where it tells you to think about nice things, not nasty things.
Yeah, I've just been studying that.
Yeah, yeah.
But Antarctica's where it's all going off, eh?
So Antarctica is interesting.
But what I was going to ask you before we got sidetracked by Flat Earth was, do you ever wonder, so God creates this amazingly beautiful world with all these, you know, dolphins and butterflies and And you know special things like you get toucans in South America and then you get hornbills in Africa.
Yeah, they're completely separate species.
They look alike, but that he's got this eye for detail and he obviously designs the lilies and all kids and stuff and just really and he creates us, you know, where the icing on the cherry on the cake and we're in his image and then Part of his plan is that all this horrible stuff happens.
Oh no, James.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Whose idea was it?
Whose idea was it?
To bring sin into the world.
I mean, was it God's idea?
I mean, let me put it to you this way.
So let's say the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil wasn't in the garden, right?
Well then we would just be prisoners.
We wouldn't really have free will.
And that wouldn't be perfect.
That wouldn't be God's perfect creation.
If he didn't give us a way to say, I don't want to be in your perfect paradise, then we would have been in a little prison, like a little robot that can only do good things that God created.
So by giving us the, and if you want to die, you can eat this fruit and you can have the knowledge of good and evil, you know?
So, that has to be there.
And it wasn't through God that all this negative stuff came into the world.
It was through our rebellion against God that started this whole spiral downward.
And it's God's plan to rectify us, which is Jesus, etc.
But it was our rebellion against God that caused All of the illness, sickness, suffering, none of this existed in where God planned for us to be, you know?
Well, I get that up to the point where, I mean look, God is totally in charge, so he must have planned that as well.
Maybe, but I think this, I think maybe, but if you think about where we will be at the end of the story, we will be people that chose God I think it's in the Bible where God says at the end of this he will have his people.
That's what God is getting out of this whole thing.
He is going to have at the end of the age He's going to have a people that chose him, and some of them chose him through great tribulation, through great suffering.
Some of them chose him at the expense of torture, of murder, of death.
And these people will live forever.
So he won't just have people that he created to worship him, that worship him because everything's been great his whole life.
Like Job for example.
You know, the devil will be able to say, yeah, but Job only worships you because everything's been great in his life.
But God can say, well no, look what happened to Job, and now look, look, now isn't, doesn't Job have more faith at the end of the book of Job than he does at the beginning?
Of course he does, because he's proved it in the fire of suffering.
You know, suffering exists for a reason.
In order that we can overcome it and become better human beings as a result.
So we always look at suffering as like, look at how horrible it is.
But what does it produce?
By their fruits you shall know them.
You know, in my own personal life, the more I've suffered, the more I've improved.
Especially the more I've suffered for God.
I used to be a vain, selfish douche that wanted to be famous.
You know?
And then through suffering, through having stuff taken away from me, now I want to do God's will.
I'm a much nicer person now because of the suffering that I went through.
You know?
So I think, most people think that suffering is only a bad thing, but at the end of the road, it's a good thing.
Yeah.
Look, you're very persuasive.
I do worry sometimes listening to you.
What do you worry about?
Well, I worry, I feel that I'm relatively a rubbish, rubbish Christian compared to you.
James, you just verbatim the Psalms off the top of your head.
How many Christians do you think could do that?
But not only that, James.
Let me stop you there, James.
Not only that, but you've got a platform and you're putting God's Word out there for everyone to hear.
You don't think that this counts for anything, especially in the time we're living in?
Where it's so unpopular to do what you're doing, and there's a price to do what you're doing, and even though you've, you know, you're doing God's work a lot more than you think, in my opinion.
That's good.
Well, that's very kind of you to say so.
I went to this... I went to this, um... I went to this church service the other day.
You've obviously found your, kind of, your church to go to.
Oh yeah.
Our local vicar, he covers several churches and he's really annoying and he's got anger management issues and he's also really woke.
He's really woke.
Oh dear.
Anger management issues?
And he's into really bad stuff like not taking a collection because of health and, you know, because people might touch infected banknotes or something.
What a man of faith.
And he's really into intinctions, you know, where you dip the wafer in the wine So you don't drink from the communion cup?
These don't sound like great hallmarks of a church.
I wonder how many people God has killed by sipping the communion cup.
It just seems to be so vanishingly small, the chances of that happening, that I would rather take the risk.
Uh, yeah.
But I think this with a lot of things.
I think this with Christians who are like, we must vaccinate our children, we must give them this injection and that injection.
It's like, wait a minute, so you think God's literally up there?
Like, how can you have these two things in your mind, where you're like, God's in charge of everything, nothing happens unless God allows it.
But if I don't give this two-year-old a measles vaccine, they're gonna die.
So what, is God up there like, well they didn't have the vaccine, kill them?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, those two things don't make sense.
You can't have one without the other.
So, I think the whole vaccination programme is to get us to sort of rely on the fact, oh, if we don't, it programmes you.
If I don't give them this injection, they're going to die.
If I don't give them this injection, they're going to die.
Whereas actual fact, if you don't give kids any injections, they'll be absolutely fine and you'll realise that, oh, actually, we've got an immune system and actually we can just rely on God for our health, essentially.
We don't need Pfizer to be healthy.
Which is the biggest crock of SHIT you've ever, ever can imagine.
That we need these pharmaceutical companies to be healthy.
The truth is, the further you are from these pharmaceutical companies, the healthier you will be.
You know?
100%.
Sure of that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I, um... Absolutely.
It's anti-God.
The vaccinations, it's anti-God.
It's like, you must trust the vaccinations.
You can't trust how you were lovingly and wonderfully made.
You know?
Oh, let me tell you about a new rabbit hole that somebody opened up for me today.
Hit me!
Hit me!
Oh, it's a good one.
It's a good one.
It's about everything is caused by parasites.
Oh yeah.
Cancer.
Okay, so get this.
Get your papaya seeds ready or whatever it is.
What do... Everything.
What do these parasites really thrive on?
They thrive on an environment with reduced vitamin C levels in our body.
Okay.
What are the things that reduce vitamin C levels and also create that kind of acid environment that… Acid!
For everything in our diet, I imagine?
Aluminium particles from cloud spraying.
Chems.
The stuff that they put in vaccines.
Of course.
Sugar.
They love sugar.
They love alcohol.
So you think of all the things culturally, you know, why are we encouraged to drink booze?
It's full of sugar.
Yep.
Well, that's...
It's a...
Have you noticed how every celebrity has an alcohol now?
Like, you know, like, even Ricky Gervais is like a vodka brand.
Like, they all, when they reach a certain level, they come out with a whiskey or, like, The Rock's got a tequila, Ricky Gervais has a vodka, Conor McGregor's got a thingy, like, David Beckham's got a whiskey.
And have you also noticed they're called spirits?
Very interesting choice of word.
This spirit.
You've got to get this spirit in you.
Go check out the spirits.
Why are they called spirits?
Very strange name for a liquid.
You know?
Very interesting to me that, um, you know, that that would be the case.
I'm starting to see the links between, you know, anything that every celebrity pushes.
I'm like, this has got to be absolutely terrible for you.
Totally.
Totally.
Yeah.
But the parasites one I've heard before, I went through a period where I was like eating like raw, I can't remember the seeds, it's like papaya seeds or something, supposed to kill parasites, can't remember what it was, a papaya or something, but I've heard parasites before and in my own experience when I cut sugar out my diet, a lot of my niggling health things sort of went away, you know, you can get a lot done by fasting for sure.
Fasting is so good for your health.
I really recommend that for people who are struggling with whatever.
It's not easy, obviously, but there's a reason why God's so high on you fasting.
It's good for you in spiritual and physical ways.
I'm totally with you on fasting.
It is a pain to do.
It's hard.
It is hard.
It's hard, but it's, you know, like all good things in life, it's hard to do.
Like these people that do it for like 40 days, I'm like, wow.
Wow.
I tap out at three and that's, I've only done three days like twice.
And I'm like, whoa, whoa, that was rough.
Drinking water, of course, you know, I'm not a maniac, but just no food for three days is pretty crazy.
I'm not sure, of all the vices, I think that Cigarettes are probably the least bad.
I heard they might be good for you.
You know how the Native Americans used to puff away on smoke, and that perhaps actually smoking might not be as bad for you as you think?
I heard that.
I've got no evidence or research behind it, but I just suddenly thought, oh yeah, maybe.
I think if you smoked organic tobacco... Yes!
You might be good.
I think that's okay.
Maybe you smoke it through a shisha pipe so that you don't get the lung burning.
Didn't you say like they took smoking away because it makes you sort of social and you end up... Yes.
Oh well that's definitely why they did it.
That makes a lot of sense.
You know your smokers club smoking outside the thing and whatever.
Okay I can see why they would they wouldn't want people just having any sort of human contact.
Have you given up all your vices?
Not all, but marijuana, like smoking weed used to be my number one vice, and I used to be well into that, but recently I started to tell myself, listen, if you can't give up this for God, How do you think you're gonna get on if you're in some sort of great tribulation scenario?
Like, you know what I mean?
I always think to myself, like, if they tell me, you know, you're gonna be executed if you don't renounce Jesus, I'll be like, I'm not renouncing Jesus, execute me.
But then I think to myself, well listen, if you can't give up watching Premiership football, you think you're gonna be like, cut my head off.
Um, but most of my ones, they're just, they're nothing major.
It's just sort of distractions.
You know, so watching football a lot, you know what I mean?
Like little ways that I entertain myself.
Nothing major, but it's just, it's actually, I have to say, um, you know, torturing children versus what I think watching football is up there.
I'm afraid.
See?
I knew I came to the right place.
Yeah.
But especially when you have the level of discernment that I think I have, where I see the sort of satanic stain over everything.
Like football, music, it's just, everything's slimed.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
It's gross.
And I think football works the same way as, like, Hollywood movies, where some of the top footballers, they're not even very good at football, in my opinion.
They probably just, you know, sucked off the right guy or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's not... It's the same with comedy.
It's not a meritocracy anymore.
Nothing seems to be real anymore to me.
To be fair, Alistair, even if I sucked off the right guy, I can't see myself being... Oh, there's degrees to this game!
Let's degrease this game.
You have to be semi-competent to get a foot in the door.
But some of these professional singers can't sing at all.
I don't know if you've noticed, but, like, you know, there's clips of, like, Olivia Rodrigo or some of these new sort of starlets.
They can't sing or dance at all.
None of the new lot can sing at all.
It's all auto-tune and stuff.
Or you've got the music that's deliberately bad, you know, like sort of mumble rap.
I feel so sorry for young people, the stuff that they're being given.
It's all very sort of jarring and it's got a real sort of palpable satanic energy to me and it's really sickening.
I've got to tell you about this.
We live in a house next door to a wedding venue.
Wow.
So, there's a barn which gets used at some... You live in a house next to a wedding venue?
Well, I mean, yeah, but it's only... It's not a terraced house.
No, it's not, but it's a kind of... So, it's a barn.
So, I live in the country and there's a barn with a sort of hotel next to it.
Okay.
Normally the music, you know, you get very very used to hearing that Oasis song.
Yeah, and come on Eileen and Wonderwall gets played.
Come on Eileen later on in the evening.
You get this sort of jolly established.
Yeah, but there was a wedding the other day which was playing.
I went out to walk the dog.
And it was so bleak and so dark that it just filled me with this existential despair.
It was at a wedding and it was like it was Like Elton John or worse?
No, no, no.
Even worse than that, if you can imagine.
It's the sort of thing that you could imagine they're playing at a club in Hoxton.
It's like, sort of, drum and bass without the drums or the bass.
It's like that Clint...
I can't even imagine that!
Yeah, no tune exactly, just sort of dark atmosphere.
You know the guy who had that, who had the sort of the hell mouth on his stage where various people died?
Travis something.
I've never heard his music but... Oh yeah.
But maybe it was that kind of vibe.
Oh, I know exactly what you mean.
And that was a really, really eye-opening moment, wasn't it?
Where he's got, like, on the stage, like, see you on the other side, and a giant portal, and all these people died at his concert.
And I remember listening to loads of these interviews... Only eight or nine, to be fair.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, only.
And he's on stage just sort of being like, hey, he doesn't really care, and... No.
Yeah, that for me was real obvious, like, harvesting of...
Energy and you know, but the but Travis Scott I think say but these are the types of things that young people are being given You know as entertainment where it's like dude, you're in a live satanic ritual What about um, you're talking about static rituals the most famous pop star in the world right now Taylor Swift.
Oh, yeah has demonic rituals Oh yeah.
Taylor Swift, who I'm not even sure is a woman.
I know, I don't think he is.
Yeah, same.
Same.
I don't think he is.
I get repelled by those pictures of his crotch area, that very tight kind of leotard thing.
It's like reinforced, like to stop the tackle coming out.
But then you've got the whole Super Bowl thing, where it's like, he's dating this football player, and that they just happened to make it to the Super Bowl, and it's like, oh, the whole thing's fixed then.
You know what I mean?
That the whole thing is such a pantomime now, you know, but that's another one.
But I think most of these celebrities are inverted, gender-wise.
Yes.
I think a lot of them.
And even ones that, when I, before I was awake, like Jennifer Aniston, I used to look at Jennifer Aniston and think, what a beautiful woman.
Now I look at Jennifer Aniston, I'm like, it's a guy in there.
Like, you know?
I'm like, the older they get, the more I'm like, oh my gosh!
There's a guy in there!
And my wife thinks I'm crazy for this.
She'll be so mad that I brought this up.
But there's a long list of ones that I think are inverted, and I don't think I'm wrong.
Oh, well, listen, I don't know whether you've gone as far down that one as it's called as you know, elite gender inversion.
Yeah, and I think that there are different there are different stages.
I think sometimes they they do something in the womb or that I mean, partly it's environmental.
So I think I think Taylor Swift was probably an environmental.
It was just isn't it part of the satanic thing they raise boys as girls and girls as boys?
Sure, yeah.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah, you would know better than me.
You've got the behind the paywall satanic, you know.
We didn't talk about that one, but I have looked at some of the people who specialize in this and this woman said she looked at Led Zeppelin and she said that Jimmy Page and Robert Plant are both Actually, girls.
Wait a minute.
I never look at it that way.
From female to male, I don't find it as easy to spot for some reason.
It's a bit shocking because I was a massive Led Zepp fan and I met Paigey and Plant and hung out with them.
You've met them?
Yeah.
And what do you think?
Do you think they're women?
I thought they were blokes.
Right.
But then I was, but then you see, I was in my normie phase, so I didn't, you know.
But then, I also think about this, like, you know, like, the sort of hair metal days?
Yeah.
You know, like, most of these people, they're agents of change.
There was a time when being a man was manly and you were a man, right?
And then these rockers that were sort of like, hey, we're really skinny and we have long hair and we wear makeup.
There was a real sort of period, you know, where it was kind of, Oh, these- and all the women love us because we're these rock stars, but really they were sort of super effeminate, you know?
And I think that was a stage where they were just sort of attacking masculinity through these rock stars who had this big, long, punked-up hair, you know, and you're told that, oh, these are rock gods, but in actual fact, I think they were just sort of feminizing men in a way, you know?
Oh, yeah, sure.
You know what I'm saying?
I look back on that era now and I think, oh, that's probably what you were doing.
Oh, all of it.
I mean, every musical genre.
So, gangster rap was invented to put more black people in prison.
It's not a hard one to figure out, that one, is it?
No, that one is so obvious.
Yeah.
But even the blues, even rhythm and blues, they targeted blacks because they didn't want them to have family values.
They wanted to create this monster that, you know, Innicities became.
They were sort of Christian, God-fearing, family-oriented people.
Very much so, yeah.
So this poison was sold to them.
It's everywhere.
Every musical genre you can think of.
The one where I think they messed up was with rave culture.
Because it seems to me that a lot of the resistance to all the nonsense has come from people who used to go raving.
That's true!
Like me.
We've gone on these marches and it's very much that sort of free-spirited, you know... Yeah, I know what you're saying.
But it's one that's difficult for them to control, the sort of rave culture, isn't it?
You know, there's not really many celebrities in that world.
You know, it's obviously like famous DJs or whatever that's, you know, there's probably a bit of skullduggery going on there.
You ever look into Avicii?
What happened to him?
Oh, isn't Avicii Taylor Swift?
Or is that...?
No, no, no, that's Calvin Harris.
Sorry.
Tell me about Avicii.
He's a Swedish DJ and the last video that he recorded is called A Better Day and it's directed by him and if you watch the video it's basically like In the video, there's these child trafficking pedophiles that he catches onto and exposes and it's basically like he's exposing completely the child sex trafficking industry and then he kills himself.
You know, like a couple of months later, obviously, which you would obviously do.
He's an example that I give to people of like, when people are like, Russell Brand's famous and he's turning against the establishment, I'm like, Avicii is a guy who was famous who turned against the establishment.
Like, go and watch this video and you can see, oh, and then he, that's what happens when you have a big following and then you decide to go, I'm actually going to lead my followers towards, you guys are all child sex traffickers, you know, you end up killing yourself.
That's what happens.
You don't end up with 8 million YouTube subscribers.
You know, a thorn in their side that they just can't possibly remove.
But he is a great example of someone who I believe woke up as a famous person.
And he's got this music video.
I remember when I was doing live streaming and people were like, check out this music video.
And I played it and I was just like, wow, like this really is like, it's a very obvious video.
And it's weird for a DJ to do a child sex trafficking video.
You know, usually it's like, Throw your hands up in the air.
It's all fun.
So why would a famous party DJ all of a sudden do a video about child sex trafficking and then kill himself, you know, a little bit later.
Right.
But I found that quite inspiring.
In the same way, so do you think Rick Mayall, when he made that one by one film, which I haven't seen.
Possibly.
Possibly.
It's very haunting, isn't it?
Those clips where he's, like, looking... I can't remember what he says.
That's quite a good impersonation you did.
Was it?
I don't even know.
You just made your eyes wide, but that was it.
Right, fine.
But yeah, I remember, yeah, that was another one.
When I went down this sort of rabbit hole, if you like, when I first discovered, like, oh wow, celebrities aren't Who I thought they were, and child sex trafficking is a massive thing in that industry.
People like Rick Mayle and Avicii, and there was a few people where I was like, okay, there's a few people that actually, you know, really said this is the way it is, and obviously they're all dead.
So maybe Rick Mayle.
I always liked Rick Mayle.
So maybe, yeah.
Maybe he's one of the good guys trying to wake us up to what's really going on.
He wasn't always a good guy.
In my early days, I'm pretty sure, when I was sort of, you know, I probably deserved it, when I was a diarist for a newspaper and I have to go to parties, I was paid to go to parties to kind of talk to celebrities and get stories.
And I remember this occasion where he and, oh, what's that sinister man whose daughter became a pop star?
He's a comedy actor.
He's Keith Allen.
Keith Allen.
I think this is right.
Keith Allen and Rick Mayle.
Is that Lily Allen, his daughter?
Yeah.
Right, okay.
Held me out of the window by my, you know, like my legs.
Like a gangster?
Yeah, yeah.
I think so.
What do you mean, you think so?
Well, you see, the thing is, Asda, I find that I'm at that stage in my life where my early days are a kind of... a sort of mix of sort of... Surely you'd remember being held out of a window by your legs?
I do remember it was quite... Stick out.
It was quite frightening and traumatising, but I can't remember exactly how bad it was.
And it was Rick Mayo and Lily Allen's dad?
I think so.
Blimey.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I understand why you maybe don't trust him 100% then.
Yeah.
Makes sense, if you've got that anecdote.
But, I mean, the time when he sort of tried to kill you aside, what's your take on him?
Well, I think that probably he did an Avicii of some kind.
I mean, I'm interested by the ones who do speak out.
I mean, obviously, Morris is Spent the day in bed is a fantastic song for for waking people up.
Yep.
Yeah, there's a few isn't there?
There's a few who you're like, okay, like because there was a couple of musicians who during the pandemic seem to be actually against the whole thing.
But during the pandemic, it was very eye-opening how few comedians, actors, all these famous people.
It really did help us see the board very clearly, I think, the whole pandemic time, you know?
It was very easy to sort of tear down these idols for me, where it was like, oh, OK, none of you rock stars are really rock stars at all.
You're, you know, get vaccinated to come to our shows.
That's who you are.
You know what I mean?
Well, yes.
Very useful.
That terrible band that had one hit and just play it a lot and them, they were... Which one are you thinking of?
Probably, there's lots of bands there that one could name.
Many?
Yeah.
Can't remember?
Okay, fine.
It'll come back to me.
It'll come back to me.
They really were quite mediocre.
It seems to me that pretty much Most fields have yielded but one character per field.
So, for example, football.
You've got Matt Letissier.
And that's it.
Matt Letissier.
Just Matt Letissier.
It really is stunning, isn't it?
I understand from football aficionados that Matt Letissier is the footballer you'd want because he was always kind of a maverick.
I was about to say that.
I was about to say that.
He's like...
His nickname was Legod back in the day, you know, because he was that good.
But, you know, he's a great choice.
But it really stuns me with football how the rest of them are just, they're perfectly happy to just watch these guys collapse on the field week in, week out, and just pretend like, oh yeah!
You know what I mean?
It's like, there was a point in time where games were being stopped.
Like, if you watched football on a Saturday afternoon, like, two or three games would be stopped because people in the crowd were collapsing, whatever.
And everyone, all the pundits, everyone was just like, yep, there's another one.
You know what I mean?
No one was going, hang on a minute, what?
Like, none of them.
It was like, wow.
Wow.
There really is just an epidemic of cowardice.
When it comes to not wanting to... It's always, I don't want to lose my job.
I can't do anything, I don't want to lose my job.
You know, I don't want to lose my job, which kind of is a pre-marker for the Mark of the Beast, I suppose.
I think that's what the vaccine is, by the way.
It was getting people warmed up to take this, so you can't do that sort of thing.
Yes.
Well, that's what, that's what, um, hang on, one of the, um... Uh-oh.
No, I'm just, just... This don't work.
Close up of Jesus' jumper for the people that are watching at home.
It's frightening, isn't it?
I wouldn't say frightening, but it's disorientating from my perspective.
When I was at university, there was this... This would have been 84 to 87.
All chaps wore these Norwegian sweaters which had this distinctive pattern on them.
It was very odd.
You're quite too young to remember it.
No, I think I can.
There were these little periods in history where we're just...
And what we're talking about?
Le God, we're talking about.
Le Tissier, and the fact that very few people, there's so many cows, very few people are willing to say this is abnormal.
Do you know, this comes back to this, the powers that be thing.
Apparently the purpose, the reason that they, the powers that be, want to Encourage these parasites within us is a they kill us with cancer.
I mean because the parasites are right.
This is why this is why ivermectin works against cancer and why fend as a fend decibel.
Yeah, okay.
You see this in quite a lot of alternative anti-cancer protocols.
It's an anti-parasitical thing.
But apart from, you know, wanting to kill us generally, they also want us to be in this state where we can watch people dropping dead at a football match and go, yeah, well, Yeah, who won?
Normalised.
Completely normalised.
Yeah, I think we're there.
You know, I think we're there.
Like, no one in comedy is talking about the fact that, you know, at least like three comedians in their 40s have had, like, heart attacks this year.
You know, and everyone just goes...
Okay, yeah, we're gonna miss him.
I'm like, anyone, anyone gonna say, hang on a minute, maybe these guys were right that were saying that, you know, we've all got heart problems now, because, nope, no one's gonna mention it.
We're just normalizing 40 year olds having, you know, heart attacks.
I go to a rugby club fairly often round here, and on the front gate of the rugby club, Now is like a banner that says something like, uh, it's about, you know, uh, adolescents or young adults having heart attacks.
You know, it's right on there before you get to the playing fields.
It's just kind of like, you know, let's just get you guys aware that, you know, occasionally one of you 20 year olds could have obviously dropped out of heart attack.
Yeah.
You know, it's just, it's just, this is normal now.
This is normal now.
It's like, this is in no way normal ever.
For a 20-year-old that's playing sport to need a defibrillator.
You notice how there's defibrillators on the back of everything now?
This is where I think your theory, which is hardly a theory, I mean it's true isn't it, about the devil.
The fact that these defibrillators started appearing everywhere, out of nowhere, in the run-up to the... before anyone had even heard of... Yes!
Before Covid-19 they started popping up.
I remember seeing them on walks and being like, huh?
So how did they know there was going to be an epidemic of...
Wait, can I tell you something about defibrillators?
Which I found out on a health and safety course, which blew my mind, right?
So I'm in the health and safety course, the guy's telling us about defibrillators.
I notice on the defibrillator is two lightning bolts, that's the symbol.
Now a lot of these celebrities wear lightning bolts, right?
Because... That's the DSS.
That's from the Bible, I watched Satan fall to the ground like lightning or something like that, I think it's in Luke, right?
So straight away I think, okay, Could be something to do with the devil here.
And then I learn in the course that I always used to think what a defibrillator did was restart the heart.
Okay?
It's not what a defibrillator does.
What a defibrillator does is stop the heart.
And then you are hoping that the heart restarts itself.
So when you see someone clear, you think you're bringing them back to life.
In actual fact, you're stopping the heart stone dead.
And then the hope is that the heart comes back to life.
And I was stunned by this.
And I questioned, I said, sorry, it sounds like what you're saying, Mr. Defibrillator Course Guy, is that the defibrillator doesn't restart the heart, it stops it.
And the guy was like, yeah, that's correct.
And the spiel for this was, if the heart is beating irregularly, and someone's having a heart attack, what you need to do is, like a computer, turn it off, and then it'll maybe come back on again.
Right?
But, because of the lightning bolt, I was just like, maybe you sons of bitches have got us all running out there, stopping people's hearts, killing them with a defibrillator, and then we think like, oh, I tried to save him, but I never got there.
You've just, you've rounded off the show.
No, with a killer point and a new rabbit hole.
I don't think anyone knew about the defibrillator rabbit hole.
My wife is going to kill me for this because when I told her this she was like, oh you are a lunatic.
Of course they're not killing people with defibrillators.
I told you about the parasites and you said, hold my beer.
Hold my defibrillating beer.
Yep.
Well, it's who I am.
That's great.
It's how you roll.
And thank you for that, Alistair.
I've really enjoyed this.
Same.
I can actually go on, but I don't want to stray into the territory of the alleged comedian and mixed martial arts fighter Joe Rogan.
You don't want to get there.
You want to get to the three hour ones.
Yeah, fair.
I mean, it's just like...
What?
Three hour conversations?
No!
Yeah, but when you discover how much of them are completely unorganic, you know, how much of them are actually agenda points that are being fed to you, but in the style of like, hey, do you know the... it's all like planned and scripted.
Anyway, it's another rabbit hole to go into, but yeah.
I'm going to have to look up, I'm going to have to look up the video of... Matthew North, Joe Rogan exposed.
Try and watch it before I get... Matthew North and Avicii, just before they get to me.
My opinion.
Doing good guys.
Well presumably they're with... Oh thank you.
Thank you very much.
We can have a few more minutes because the thing I was angling for was this thing.
Really?
Ah, see, that's a loving home you've got there, where a hot drink just appears, you know, from the wings.
Well, I do... You see, I do like my cup of tea.
I reckon I could conceivably give up coffee after what the guy told me, that it's another form of mind control.
Oh, crap.
I know.
That's one of my vices that I can't get out of me.
The thing about coffee...
...is it goes better with cigarettes than tea does.
Right.
Oh yeah.
You never hear of cigarettes and tea, really.
Not really.
Cigarettes and coffee.
Which is a shame.
I mean, maybe in the war, when you're having a brew, when you're, you know, you've been strafed by stookers.
And then you... I feel like that's something Dick would bring up.
Being strafed in the war.
He probably would.
He probably would.
That's Dick, I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like Dick was so born out of an era, like he should have been, you know, around that time.
You know what I'm saying?
He just really looks like a Second World War guy.
Or whatever period he's doing.
I think he's got this interesting new period that I think he's thinking of.
Did he mention it?
I don't think so.
I think it was sort of 1905, French Foreign Legion.
Oh, yes.
Okay, fine.
Good year.
It's like wine.
It's a good year.
Yeah, sure.
But coffee is one... I've got a theory on coffee that it must be bad for you because it's everywhere.
You know, there's so many chains.
It's like they wouldn't give us anything.
That was really good for us.
And it's so pushed, you know, coffee, it's, it's everywhere.
So it must be, I think I saw somebody that said it bleeds the magnesium out of you or something.
It's probably bad for you.
But what are you gonna do?
I think it does that.
I think it reduces the flow of oxygen to your brain by about 40%.
Rubbish.
Rubbish, doesn't sound good.
Do you know, I just kind of think that, um, Given that we're going to get our heads chopped off, or... Well, some are.
We differ on this, James.
I think that I'm out of here before that happens.
Oh, of course you do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My blessed hope is that I'm out of here for that.
I won't mind.
People are like, oh yeah, but if you're wrong, you're going to like, you know, kill yourself or be really upset.
It's like, no, I'll just be like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Okay.
Alistair, I totally agree.
It would be so much more fun if we just get raptured.
Sure.
Be great.
Sure.
Just like.
Yeah.
It'd be great.
It'd be great.
It'd be wonderful.
But, I just think... I feel like it's God's plan.
What about the bit in Revelation where we're kind of... those who've been... Under the altar?
Under the altar.
The tribulation saints?
Yeah.
Yeah, they're the people that came to faith during the tribulation, which by the way... Oh, I see.
There'll be a lot more during that period than this period.
You know, the devil's going to be so overt, there's going to be no hiding anymore during this period.
And, you know, the sky is going to be falling, literally.
A third of the world's seas will be turned to blood.
You know, people are not going to be like, well I guess nothing supernatural exists.
You know, people are going to be We're going to be turning to God during this time.
A great many people will be martyred in this time.
It's going to be a lot easier, in my opinion, to be saved.
To be saved now, all you have to do is believe in Jesus.
Once the Great Tribulation starts, you've got to have your head chopped off.
You know, forget about, I believe in Jesus.
Now it's way harder to be saved.
Now you're gonna have to endure through, you know.
But the point of the Great Tribulation is to save people.
The point of the Great Tribulation is to shake people into, you know, look how horrible this is without me.
You know, people like me, who are like, God, I believe in you, I'm ready.
There's no practical purpose for me to be shaken like that.
In addition, I believe that God poured out his wrath onto Jesus instead of me.
So it doesn't make any... I can't get my head around... If Jesus died for my sins and took the punishment that I deserve, I can't see how... It's different... Except... Tribulation is God's wrath being poured out, right?
That's very different from persecution, the type of stuff that Christians are told to expect.
You see what I'm saying?
I'm not expecting God to pour out his wrath on me.
I think that's...
I think that could be a nice thought, but not borne out by what's happened to Christians through history.
You know, you look at the persecution of Christians in... Oh blimey!
I haven't heard it, but somebody has listened to it.
What's it called?
Restless History.
Doing a special on Jesus.
Tom Holland did a special on Jesus.
Right.
And he basically said, yeah, his parents weren't called Mary and Joseph.
He wasn't born in Bethlehem.
Loads of people did miracles in that period, and I think probably the disciples moved the body or something like that.
Wow.
It's close.
Tom, I've been on holiday with you and I like you very much, but What are you doing telling us about Christianity?
If you... It's annoying, isn't it?
Yep.
Very much so.
Very much so.
But it's the one... It's the one... It's actually the only thing that the enemy cares about.
All the rest of this cack, chemtrails, climate... It's all a big distraction.
The enemy loves chemtrails.
He loves it.
Come on.
It's the one thing that bothers me when...
You know, just the fact that there's no sun, it really, I'm just so annoyed about it.
And I get a little annoyed that people don't see it.
I almost want to stop people in the street and be like, did you fucking see that?
You know what I mean?
It really, I'm like, come on, really?
Another cloudy day?
Another 100% cloud cover?
In a row?
That's like 300 in a row.
No one, no one questions this?
I'm the maniac?
Like, you know what I mean?
That's the one that gets me, like... And it's also the one that convinces me that we're in some sort of biblical period.
It's like... The sun has never been blocked out before, James.
Like, that's crazy.
The sun is blocked out?
That is really, like... Only by Mr Burns on The Simpsons.
Oh, is there one with that?
Yeah, and of course, he's modelled on the Rothschilds, isn't he?
I mean, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.
But the fact that everything's in The Simpsons shows you that we're living in a pre-planned, you know what I mean?
Well, but that, because Matt Groening is a, Groening, Groening, Groening, however you pronounce it, is a 33rd degree.
Is he?
Yeah, yeah.
He can't enjoy anything.
No, none of this, nothing is, this is the thing, it's why I get kind of impatient with, there are people who've been Down the rabbit hole much, much longer than I have.
I find that hard to believe.
Yeah, who yet presumed, they say to me things like, yeah, you mustn't think everything's a conspiracy.
You know, I've been, I've been there, you know, man and boy, and it's not like you think.
And I'm thinking, it is exactly like you think and worse on every single level.
Nothing is, there are no coincidences.
How about defibrillators?
See what response you get.
You can't trust anything.
I'll tell you the thing that got me the thing that got my spider senses.
Apparently it is by the way spider sense not spidey sense.
Do you know that?
Okay, fine.
Makes sense.
Got my spider senses working was the suspicious alacrity with which these printed Sort of signs, posters, things on the back of dustbin lorries to do with our NHS and our heroic, you know, this heroic battle against this.
It was like they'd been preparing for it and somebody had paid for this stuff.
There'd been a print run on this stuff.
There'd been a print run?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see them in like windows and, you know, it's always the rainbow again.
The hell's the rainbow got to do with the NHS?
You know?
Who came up with that one?
And the pots and pans, bashing the pots and pans, it's such an obvious psychological operation when you think about it, you know, people were like, on my street it was like, oh that guy's not bashing his pots and pans, you know, it was like you had to join in or you were some kind of, you know, bastard.
Did you ever, did you ever give a tiny tish of a...
Never.
I'm proud to say never.
There was a couple of days where I was like, there's a virus.
You know what I mean?
There was a couple of days.
Oh yeah, no, I was like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I was ordering gloves on Amazon and doing all kinds of shit.
I bought some, I congratulated myself for having bought some, um, oh, antiviral spray or something or, you know, and I carried one in my car so that I could spray my gear stick.
Why not?
Did you see the clip of Brett Weinstein who was telling people how to tie the neckerchief or whatever?
Like, he was... He was telling people, like, I have all of these bandanas and I tie them around my neck so they're right there and I can just pull them up if anyone comes to the door and I was like, you know, this is what the people they give us as the heroes of the resistance, like, this is what they were doing when it mattered.
They were telling you, I get this coward's kit from Amazon, and when the establishment tell me to cover my face, I can lift it right up, and I can cover my face.
And it was just like, you know, the people that I looked up to at the time, Jordan Peterson's another one, get the damn vaccine, Peterson.
You know, where was your giant brain when, you know, the boot of tyranny was on my neck?
It was, you know, this is how you do up your bandana and take the damn vaccine.
It's like, you're supposed to be such a bloody genius, Peterson.
How is it, you didn't see this one coming, this giant fairy elephant stomping through the living room?
You didn't notice that?
Do you know what I'm saying?
This was, I mean, there were so many people who were found wanting.
Are you familiar with a journalist called Dan Hannan?
No.
No, okay.
Dan Hannan was, you know, like, when I was a sort of a conservative commentator, he was a fellow conservative commentator.
Okay.
I was posting pictures of myself, you know, going into supermarkets.
Look, I'm not wearing a mask.
And, you know, I was showing my rebel.
And occasionally getting in trouble for it.
I mean, like, on a train journey once, I almost got in a fight with somebody with a masker who wanted to, you know, to argue with me and stuff.
My loss of faith in Dan Hannan was when he posted a picture of himself wearing a Garrick Club face mask.
Jeez.
And it was wrong on so many levels.
Yep.
Like the branded masks, you know what I mean?
And this was felt to be something not embarrassing.
Not shaming, not... No, yeah.
It's like, I used to say, it's like taking a, you know, selfie in prison.
And you've got, like, Gucci prison bars, or whatever, and you're kinda like... Like, you know what I mean?
It's like... Dude, this is a... An item that's, you know, pressing you.
It's like... It's not a fashion statement.
Like... Ugh.
Grim.
Although I quite like those Gucci prison bars.
What are they made of?
I'm not sure.
Describe them to me.
It's out of my, uh... It's out of my wheelhouse.
But I was generally sort of, you know, I went along with it for a little bit, you know, but only for a couple of days, because I was like, okay, they might have released a killer virus on us.
I could believe that, you know, they would like to do something like that, you know, so I wasn't sure.
But then, after a little bit, it's just like, okay, all right, no, I think there's something More, you know, uh, dastardly afoot.
Because a fake pandemic's actually way more dastardly than a real one.
Oh, way more!
A real one's just like mustard gas, you know, okay, alright, you're trying to kill me, release something, I'm with you.
This one is a real, you know, multifaceted layer of deception on deception on deception, you know?
It's masterstroke.
Nobody...
Has ever had a... I mean, when was the last real... because the so-called Spanish flu.
Oh, yeah.
We now realize, I think, because it was one of those... I mean, there's this thing about history.
Events that really don't quite make sense, even when the papers are talking about them all the time.
So, I suppose a recent example would be The Salisbury Novichok things, allegedly by evil Putin, when he allegedly poisoned, you know?
Oh yeah.
And everything about that seems so nebulous, even at the time.
I was a normie at the time.
It just, nothing made sense.
And then when the BBC put its imprimatur on it, by making a drama series about it, and you thought, That confirmed it was all fake, in the same way that the new Dr. Oxford thing did.
But going further back, I was always puzzled by this event in 1918 and 1919, which killed more people than the First World War.
You know, more people died of Spanish flu than died in the trenches.
And yet one knew so little about it.
It was just like, it was like, it had been, you know, swept away.
Yeah.
And I think what, what that was, it was a dry run for the, the, the, the, the fake, fake pandemic of, I mean, it was, it was slightly different, but I, but I think, I think the deaths, the deaths were caused by vaccines.
Gotcha.
So people were weakened and susceptible to it, in the same way that AIDS was fake.
You know, AIDS was like people on Fire Island who were clubbing for three nights, taking all manner of drugs.
Their immune systems were just kind of shagged, literally and metaphorically.
And this was put down to this novel thing called AIDS, when of course really it was the AZT that finished people like Freddie Mercury and Arthur Ashe off.
Anyway, I'm sort of sketching all over the place, but the Spanish Flu was this weird anomalous event which... Huge death toll, but really not... Not really examined very... Yeah.
If they don't want something to be covered, it's not.
But it makes you wonder about the Black Death.
Did it even happen?
Yeah, I often think, did it even happen?
Like, do I even know these historical events that I'm told happened?
Did they happen?
I don't even know anymore.
You know, and I don't put too much time into it, because it really won't change too much for my day-to-day, but the only thing I really trust is the Word of God.
It's the only thing I really trust.
It's the only thing I really, you know, set my watch by, sort of thing.
Everything else...
Pretty much everything else I take with a like, a pinch of salt sort of thing, you know, including most history.
I don't have any, like, I remember listening to a podcast about the start of the First World War, and the guy, I think it was Dan Carlin or something, he was explaining how crazy it was that this guy who got assassinated, they tried to assassinate him and they missed, and then he just happened to roll up in the car outside the cafe they were all in, and at the time I was like, oh my god, what an incredible turn of events.
But now, of course, I'm like, oh, bullshit.
You know what I mean?
Now I'm like, oh, it's probably one giant satanic sacrifice, you know, where they all over-the-top boys into the machine guns.
You know, you think, well, that doesn't seem to make sense.
It's like, yeah, now I know what I know about the world.
It's like, right, they're just gunning them all down for a laugh, maybe.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I really question everything now.
Although, you see, I mentioned earlier that I think Christianity stroke scripture is the final rabbit hole.
And that...
You've come across this, because we all have, where you get kind of atheists or New Agers or whatever saying, yeah, but you know, the Christianity, you realize Christianity is just a Jewish conspiracy or they say that, or they'll come up about the different, have you listened to Mauro Biglini in these, you know, on the translations of the Elohim and stuff, and you realize it's plural, and you'll get all these things about.
But amidst all this, you have to realize that it's absolutely true that the Bible, like everything else, different versions are not altogether accurate.
So even the King James Version, which you've got people like I used to think Chuck, I love Chuck Missler, for example.
Oh, yeah.
Chuck Missler is... Yeah, I like him.
He's great and he's very scholarly and stuff and he's enthusiastic and I can listen to his stuff for hours.
But he's got too much faith in the KJV.
The KJV was undoubtedly as much a political work as it was a work of scholarship.
A friend of mine, Who's a Catholic, who says, you're right, we Catholics don't read the Bible.
You know, they joke about it, but it's kind of, to a degree, it's kind of true.
Quite a lot of Catholics don't, because they've been encouraged not to do so, because, you know, traditionally.
That sounds legit.
Yeah, quite.
Nothing to worry about there.
But he said, I've got this evangelical friend who, as a hobby, started learning Greek so that he could read the Septuagint, the New Testament and the original.
And he said the experience had been mind-blowing.
As you realise the degree to which it has been mistranslated from the Greek.
So what I'm saying is, you know, you and I can be, do our best, but it is an endless process of learning and discovery and really interesting stuff.
Like, for example... You've got to combine it, reading the Bible with talking to God.
Because God will always point you in the right direction.
So if you just go in off this text and rely on it to be changed.
But if you could say to God, God, I'm confused about this.
You ask God for something that he wants you to have, you get it 100% of the time.
So if you're asking God, God, I want to understand your word.
God's always going to help you with that.
So you have to combine the two.
Because like you said, there's no definitive version that's not been tampered with or whatever.
But with God's help.
Yeah, I think it would be a bit of a kind of a brain exploding download if you got all the truth in one go.
I think it's that process.
I mean, I'm finding the journey quite interesting.
For example, you know, you think about the Abraham originally Abram and then he gets his name changed because he's kind of the father of nations but not not all Abram's seeds Abram's seed Abraham's seed are goodies
yes because you think about Jacob and Esau God really doesn't like Esau's progeny because they are the product of of interbreeding with Canaanites and all these all these tribes that God hates were Why does God hate them?
Because they do things like they put children in the fire, they sacrifice to their evil gods.
So already you've got this divide between, okay, you'd think, well, all the children of the seed of Abraham are basically, you know, they're God's people, but they're not.
He's quite specific about this.
And then you get to Jacob, who's also called Israel.
So you get the children of Israel, you get the 12 tribes.
the the the the the the 12 tribes um so and you think about how long ago the child the 12 tribes were i mean like what 2000 years before christ Yeah.
So you think about what happened to that diaspora.
Yes.
I mean, you think about, given that every Englishman is descended from Edward III, that you only have to go back to the, what century are we talking about?
You tell me.
14th century?
Sure.
That's quite recent.
I mean, you said it.
So, we're all descended from Edward III.
So, the notion that we are not descended, you and I are not descended from one of the tribes of Israel is infinitesimally small.
Interesting.
Yeah, okay.
I'm with you so far.
Yeah.
Well, that's as far as I need to go.
It's very, very interesting.
Have you looked into the thing about the similarities between Welsh and Hebrew?
No.
Oh, yeah.
This is another great rabbit hole.
Interesting.
Welsh and Hebrew.
I never would have got into this by myself.
So what are they called?
I've got to get hold of their books.
They were offed by the way.
They're another Now I'm even more interested.
Yeah, yeah.
Rubber stamp of approval, yeah.
They were basically, I think, burned to death.
Their houses were burned down or something, yeah.
Okay.
People would know.
After talking for two hours, I can't remember.
It's rough, yeah.
But anyway, yeah.
They theorized that one of the tribes Well, maybe several of the tribes.
Sort of.
You can follow their migratory patterns from the Middle East across Northern Europe.
To Wales?
To Wales.
Very God-fearing country, Wales.
They became the Scythians.
Some of the Scythians became Scots.
Yes.
Well, this is why you've got the name Isaac is a popular Welsh name.
And also the word Saxon is Isaacson.
Ah, gotcha.
Okay.
Yeah.
Story checks out.
Oh, yeah.
And you haven't... Okay, so Sandy Adams gave me this book.
You know Sandy Adams?
Not personally.
Okay.
Sandy Adams got picked up this book from a second-hand bookshop.
Right.
Written by this Canadian guy.
Probably very hard to get hold of now.
Okay.
Do you know about Joseph of Arimathea?
A little bit.
Okay, so he's Jesus' great-uncle.
Fine.
Jesus' great-uncle was also the biggest tin-mining magnet in the Middle East.
Okay.
Who had a fleet.
He had a palace in Ramallah, what is now Ramallah.
Right.
He was well in with the, you know, in, although the sort of the Rome, it was under Roman rule, nevertheless, you know, he was one of the rich people that sort of had kind of, you know, did a bit of horse trading with the Romans, you know, they respected him as a kind of local rich person.
Yeah.
And Joseph of Arimathea was the guy who paid for Jesus's tomb.
He was the only one who approached the authorities and had the access which enabled him to get Jesus' body.
And after Jesus, after the crucifixion and the resurrection, there was a kind of, you know, there was a sort of witch hunt for followers of, you know, did you know this man?
And there was a bit of persecution.
And according to this book, Joseph of Arimathea with Mary Magdalene, with Jesus's mother Mary, with a few others whose names we know.
Martha maybe?
Yeah.
They got in a boat.
They were initially in France and then crossed into England and set up the very first churches at Glastonbury.
Not Glastonbury?
Yeah.
No!
Yes.
That makes so much sense.
Isn't Glastonbury on, like, some waylines, or, you know, something like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all, it's all, it's all... Is that a real thing, or have I made that up?
I think it was, at the time, it was in, it was in, possibly in marshland, so it was quite, sort of, protected, and you had Glastonbury Tor, sort of, sticking out over it, and they had all these, kind of, wicker Of course, Wicca.
Yeah, Wicca work.
I don't know what's used for drainage systems or berms or whatever, I don't know.
Okay, so presumably in Glastonbury they head to Wales or whatever, is that what you're saying?
No, the children of Israel, one of the tribes or maybe several tribes, had got there way before.
But there was a culture of sort of what we consider the Old Testament religion already established, which is sort of mutated into the monotheistic Druids, whose culture, apparently, whose religious practice included apparently, whose religious practice included a lot of stuff from, you know,
know from the Old Testament interesting and the tribal chief in the Glastonbury area was very welcoming to was very sympathetic to - Thank you.
So we think of, you know, St.
Augustine's mission to England and, you know, not Angles, but angels and all that.
Sure.
Sorry, it wasn't St.
Augustine, was it?
It was somebody else.
Anyway, whoever it was, we think of these missions as being sort of much later.
But according to this book, it was actually I mean, this is what I mean about it being the best rabbit hole.
It's just kind of so interesting.
How do you choose between all these rabbit holes?
You haven't got time to go down all these holes, James.
You're gonna have to... you have to specialize.
You know what I mean?
I've never met anyone with access to so many rabbit holes as you.
You think about the podcasts that you do, like, you know?
I've always been, um, if you ask Dick about this, he'll tell you that I've got a very, very, um, limited attention span.
So I'm always, I'm always flitting about.
Yeah.
Well, it's the best way to be.
So, so, so yeah, so I've, I've, I've gone through phases in my life, like, um, Metal detecting, and... Nice!
Tai Chi, and, um... Metal detecting?
Wine.
Fine wine.
Oh, yeah.
That gets a lot of people.
Fine burgundy.
What's the best thing you ever metal detected?
Oh!
Really?
What have you got?
Some really cool shit.
Seriously?
Yeah, yeah.
My two favourite things are these Celtic...
Silver coins.
How far down are these things?
Well, in a ploughed field, you really want to be doing it in ploughed fields.
I don't like doing it through grass because you've got to dig, dig deep and it's a pain to dig.
So you're just walking around somebody's ploughed field?
Yeah.
Presumably farmers are not too keen on it.
Well, you get permission.
Okay.
I mean, technically, you sort of share the proceeds 50-50.
Oh, nice.
So I found these coins, Celtic silver, with...
Wow.
They both have horses on them because the Celts love their horses.
But the really amazing thing is you pick up this thing and you realise that no human has touched this coin since the Celt dropped it.
That is pretty cool.
That is pretty cool.
So there's that.
I've never seen people...
I've always seen people on the beach with metal detectors.
Never cloud fields.
Yeah, but they're after...
Okay, so I mean, okay, maybe they're getting Spanish W.
No, they're after kind of rings and things that people have dropped on the beach.
Yeah, it's not as fun.
You do get these things...
What are they called?
They're called something like treasure holes or something where The movement of the sea tends to kind of, you find these bits on the beach where the movement of the tides and stuff, the stuff accumulates.
If you can find one of those.
Ah, chew!
It's like a cachet of stuff.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So you mean somebody hit the jackpot with a metal detector then?
I think the Holy Grail.
Obviously the Holy Grail will be the Holy Grail.
That would be good.
That's worth at least £100.
What everyone wants really to find, it was always my dream, was to find a talk.
Um, which is a twisted necklace, sort of, that Saxons would have worn, you know.
But gold... I've never found gold.
Right.
You still do this?
Silver makes a good noise.
But gold is obviously... What do you mean makes a good noise?
Like, beep beep beep beep beep?
Different metals make different noises on your metal detector.
I never knew this!
Yeah.
I always looked at people with metal detectors like, are you kook?
But really, they're out there.
You know, cashing in.
You spend so much time picking up dross, picking up, for example, spent cartridges, sort of the ends of shotgun cartridges.
Oh yeah, I can imagine.
Or even if they've done training in the war, you know, sort of Those, you get sort of bullet cases, silver foil... Sure, not everything's going to be a Gladius.
No, no, no.
I did actually find a bit of Gladius, which is good.
Nice!
Yeah, that's good.
I found... almost my favourite, which I found with my daughter, was a Henry VIII coin.
In such perfect condition that it was it could have been minted yesterday and probably it clearly had not been circulated.
It was just just absolutely fantastic.
Also a few long cross pennies long cross pennies.
This is from Edward the first I think they're called long cross pennies because they've got a cross which extends out to the to the edge of the coin.
And the purpose of that long cross is to stop the coin being clipped for its silver, so that you can see where the cross goes to, so you can't... Oh, right, okay, so you know, like, hey, hey, where's the rest of this coin, you little toad?
Okay.
Sounds like quite a rural hobby, I don't think I can do this in Tooting.
No, you can't, well, you'd be, yeah, exactly, you do need to be... Pavement.
Yeah, OK.
I haven't got time to go metal detecting, to be honest.
My wife would kill me.
No.
Sounds fun.
Yeah.
Sounds a lot more fun, though.
So my current thing is obviously hunting, but that's going to be banned soon, so I'm... Do you think?
Also, this season was killed by weather manipulation.
I knew you were going to say that.
I used to like growing food.
I'm not even bothering this year.
No.
Just because they give us so little sun.
Green tomatoes, and it's like... Oh, man.
It's been awful, hasn't it?
Isn't it?
I mean, last year was pretty terrible.
Yeah, but they're up in it this year.
I can tell they're up in it this year.
And that could be one of the reasons why everyone's getting sick.
You know, where I am, everyone's got a cold and, you know, all this.
It could be the injections, could be the chemtrails.
You know, it's impossible to know.
It could be a little column A, a little column B. Like, there's so much poison.
You know, going into everything.
It's hard to tell what the fatal blow is, or if it's just a, you know, compilation.
I find that, um, you can, even though some, most crops disappoint, Yeah.
There'll always be something that's okay.
Yeah.
So, last year- Courgettes are pretty much they don't care.
They'll grow.
Courgettes don't care.
They'll grow.
You can only have so many courgettes, can't you?
Yeah, you do run out quick of recipes, you know.
Courgettes.
Yeah.
Green beans tend to be okay.
Yeah, again though, green beans is another one that's hard to work them into more than one or two dishes a week without getting sick of them.
Um, I think they're best... curried.
Curried?
Yeah, no, yeah.
Great use of a green bean.
I'd love to grow onions, but I can't figure out the spacing.
Ah.
I was about to say, the best thing... my best discovery was shallots.
Shallots are really worth... you should be putting them in now, though.
Crap.
Well, I'll wait for it not to be a bog out there, and maybe I'll start.
It's not... it's not tempting, is it?
No, it's horrible!
It's horrible.
It really naffs me off.
The one thing they do that I find annoying is the weather manipulation.
It really, really does.
But I think if regular people knew what was going on, they'd be pissed off.
You know, that would be one where they would be like, right, I'm pissed off about that.
You'd think!
You think, given that people, given the choice between a, a, a, a, well you think about what we draw as children.
We draw the sun in the sky.
Right.
We don't draw lines.
Lines in the sky.
Right.
And then dissipating, I mean, sorry, spreading out.
This is one of the things that I say to people, people that don't think there's chemtrails.
I'm like, do you remember when you were a kid and you looked at the sky and you were like, this cloud looks like a this, or this cloud looks like a that.
I'm like, do that now.
And they look up, and they sort of realise, like, oh, it's actually just one giant grey ceiling.
You know, I'm like, do this every day.
Every day, go outside and be like, and see a shape in the clouds.
Go on.
Like, there's not even clouds anymore.
There's not even, like, distinguishable clouds anymore.
But I am starting to get quite a lot of normie people say to me, you know what?
I think you're onto something here.
Like, you know what I mean?
Regular people are starting to be like... Like, people from my church will message me on my Instagram when I'm kicking off about chemtrails and be like, you know what?
I've noticed this on my walk, actually.
You know what I mean?
People are... Regular people are starting to be like, okay, Alistair might not be a lunatic about this.
You know, there's only so much lack of sun that people can take before they go, hang on.
You know?
Yes.
I had a sauna discussion the other day.
I like to sort of dreadkill people in the sauna at the gym.
Nowhere is safe from you, James.
No, no, I'm, Alistair, I'm relentless.
I respect that about you.
I'm unapologetic.
I respect that.
And I can't remember how I, how I steered the conversation gently from, you know, and we got on and I called it, I called it geoengineering.
Right.
I said, you know, this weather we've been having.
And somebody else said, oh, I know about this.
It's chemtrails, isn't it?
I was thinking, my work is done!
Mate, that's a good response.
You know, generally, you don't get that from chemtrails.
People look at you like you're some sort of lunatic if you suggest it.
The word chemtrails itself, calling it geoengineering is a much better idea than saying people look at the chemtrails.
Well, I think people have been programmed to think of chemtrails as the Naples ultra of craziness.
They definitely have.
And I get suckered into it.
That's why I don't like to mention it on any of my socials or anything, because I know that normies will just be like, he's nuts.
But occasionally it just gets the better of me.
You know, and I'm just like, you really think this is normal?
You know what I mean?
Just videoing the planes, like, you really think this is normal?
And then I always regret it.
I'm always like, oh, that's not going to help anymore.
The only one higher up the hierarchy of insanity is Flat Earth, I think.
Flat Earth.
Yeah, my wife was just so upset with me when I started.
But the thing is, why?
Why would anyone be upset by that?
She wasn't really upset, she was kind of like, uh, she was kind of like, ground down, was like, uh, you've been right, she was, she was kind of like, you've been right on everything else.
That, and I'm annoyed that you're probably going to be right about this, but I don't want to be one of these people that believe in flat earth.
You know, that's kind of the vibe she was giving me.
It's like, can you not just, you know, do we really have to go...
This part of the truth, when I was told I wasn't sure there was planets, she was just like, oh my gosh, you don't think there's planets?
I was like, it's not that I don't think there's planets, it's just the naming of them, you know, really sort of piqued my interest, that they're all Roman gods, which are probably fallen angels.
But you know, she doesn't want...
She's very good, my wife.
She's very red-pilled now, and she's a hardcore Christian now, which really helps.
If so, you've got a wife that's a Christian, and, you know, she believes that the god of this age is the devil, and once you realize that the devil is the god of this age, conspiracy theories, you know, as Christians, we should all believe that there's a nefarious power that runs this planet, you know?
So, how can you be a Christian that doesn't believe that there's evil going on?
You know, you just haven't read your Bible, if that's what you think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, I tend not to push the...
Yeah, I don't push it either.
In a domestic setting.
There's nothing to gain from it, and ultimately it does not matter.
We've got way bigger problems than the curvature of the Earth.
It's not a big thing, but when people ask me, I'm forced to say, I will be very surprised if it's a spinning ball, because God doesn't mention that.
Well, also a spinning ball spinning it at 66,000 miles an hour?
Yeah.
Where did Newton get that figure, I wonder?
How about this one, James?
Shouldn't we see a different set of stars?
If we're on a ball that's rotating, right, and it's going round the sun and it takes a year, surely six months' time when we're on the other side of the sun, shouldn't we see a different set of stars then?
The constellations are always the same.
If we're spinning and we're revolving, shouldn't I be looking at a different set of stars over here than I was over there?
They're always the same.
Well, the only thing that puzzles me is I've been to Australia.
And the stars look different.
Okay.
How so?
Well, they're just, like, you've got the Southern Cross and stuff, which I don't think you see over here.
Okay.
Would that work on a flat Earth model or not?
I don't know.
I mean, I tend to sort of just... I'm just sympathetic to the...
For lots of reasons, too.
It's all to do with the curvature and stuff you can see and stuff you can't see.
And also, do you know what?
It doesn't matter, does it?
As we talk about this, I'm like, it really doesn't matter.
For me, my main reason to all these things is, they've lied about everything else.
Why wouldn't they lie about this?
Why have they always got globes?
Why has every schoolroom got a globe in it?
I'm the subscriber to it, it's anti-God.
If they can convince you that you're just on a ball that's spinning for no reason, you know, everything's just random, isn't it?
It's all spinning and turning and, you know, they can get you all confused, you're spinning around, you're up, you're down.
This was my argument against aliens from other planets.
Oh yeah?
That if God made us in his image.
Yes.
Which he did.
Indeed.
I'm really not convinced that he's going to have said, but I'm going to make these kind of other animals from, you know, from different galaxies with eight arms and six eyes.
They're not, you know, they're not as good as... He's not going to do that.
Unlikely.
It's very, very, very unlikely, yeah.
Very, very unlikely.
But I think they're probably conditioning us for aliens.
I got a couple of theories on this.
I think if the rapture is real, right, a bunch of us are going to disappear, and they're going to need a cover story for that.
So alien abductions would be a good one, you know, for them to say.
Because people are going to notice.
Wait a minute, all the Christians are gone.
Well, the aliens took them, because they're wrong.
But the aliens are obviously the Nephilim, I mean, I think that's a given.
Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah.
And the same thing, people who take ayahuasca, and they go into the forest, and, you know, they're talking to these entities, it's like, yeah, you're talking to demons here, guys.
You know?
Like, I think a lot of people, people are schizophrenic.
It's like, okay, we used to say that this is a demon-possessed person, now we're like, oh, they're crazy.
You know, and even in Christian circles, people don't want to talk about evil spirits anymore.
They don't want to talk about, you know, demons and stuff.
They just want to think that that's make-believe.
But, you know, Jesus' ministry was healing the sick and casting out evil spirits.
You know, was Jesus wrong?
Like, why does very few churches deal with, you know, deliverance, so to speak, casting evil spirits out of people?
That's another thing that, you know, has just been cast aside as nonsense these days, even in church.
It's quite sad.
Yeah.
Well, this is the thing, my sister went to her church in Wales, generally Fine.
But they did a... The sermon was... The reading was about, you know, one of the scenes where... It was probably about the Gadarene swine or something like that.
Oh yeah.
And of course, the vicar was at pains to point out that, you know, we don't talk about evil spirits anymore.
We talk about, you know, mental illness.
And I was thinking, no, you shouldn't be doing that.
So the vicar was saying, listen, don't listen to Jesus, okay?
Yes.
Don't listen to Jesus.
He was wrong.
We know that now.
This is a vicar.
He was trying to make Jesus relevant.
Oh, thanks so much.
He really needs your help.
Man.
It's just boiling, you know what I mean?
But it's so common.
So many churches are like that now.
Yeah, but you know, I think most people, even Christians, just don't...
don't really get it.
They don't really believe in the resurrection.
I will say this James.
I'm in a home group with a guy from Brazil and this week I started talking about deliverance and evil spirits and I said you guys probably think I'm crazy and he stopped me and said Alistair if you were in my country this would be a regular Sunday.
We talk about this stuff all the time and there was more people in the group who were like oh yeah evil spirits yeah in my country we have it so sometimes it's just in this country we don't have it but in other countries well they all know all about evil spirits.
You know, and they deliver themselves from them all the time.
You know, it's just the little part of the world we're in, it's taboo to talk about that, even if Jesus spoke about it first.
The one thing I just remembered, and another detail about this, the book about Britain and its role in Christian history and the tribes, was that One thing that strikes you when you read the Old Testament, particularly the Moses bits, is what incredible value they place on keeping the Sabbath or honoring the Sabbath.
It's really important in a way that's almost mystifying to us now.
And apparently, Voltaire commented on this, that the British, of all the countries he'd come across, we were the most faithful in keeping the Sabbath.
And we have the vestiges of it now.
I mean, even now it's quite hard to go to, do off-licences close at a certain time?
I don't know, but it's still... Some markets close a bit earlier.
Yeah.
There's still that sort of Anyway, for what it's worth.
Right, I think now we've strayed dangerously into Joe Rogan territory.
It's been fun though.
It's been fun.
I like a ramble.
I like a ramble.
Same, same, same.
It's been good.
Same.
So, tell us where we can find your stuff.
I mean, I guess I've still got a YouTube channel called Alistair Williams is banned.
And I've got a Rumble channel called Alistair Williams.
Apart from that, that's it.
That's pretty much the only place you can find me.
It's not going to be easy.
But I wish you all luck.
Have you got a website or anything?
No, no, no.
I have my own website.
So people got to track you down?
Yeah, they got to track- well, I guess, yeah.
I got, um... I got godsavethestream17.com, which is my own website, where I sell, like, my clothes and stuff like that.
So, I guess I do have my own website, but I don't have, like, alastairwilliams.com sort of thing.
Okay.
Probably should look into that.
Getting a website.
Um...
Can people find you on Telegram or anything?
I've got a Telegram channel, but I don't even know how to send you.
That's the thing.
I don't even know how to find my own channel.
So chances are you finding it.
They're pretty remote.
No, well, I'd never find it.
So anyway, so viewers and listeners, if you want to find Alistair, just pray and God will guide you to him.
And if it is not God's wish, then you won't find it.
And Alistair will have to survive without your... Perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect.
So, thank you, dear viewers and listeners.
God, this has been an epic episode, and I've enjoyed it.
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