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Sept. 16, 2022 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole

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Alistair Williams

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	Welcome to the DelicPod with me, James DelicPod.
	I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but I am so excited.
	I think that this week's special guest is a bit like meeting the comedy version of me.
	Sort of thinner, sort of pointier, pointier chinned.
	But also, Alistair, I have to say, I don't know whether it's your lighting, but you look a bit like a white walker.
	I'll take that.
	I like White Walkers.
	I mean... And you've got the trees in the background.
	They did... Remember the first scene of Game of Thrones?
	The White Walkers just... When it was good.
	I was actually worried that you weren't going to say, I'm looking forward to my... Because you say it at every podcast.
	I was like, imagine if he just doesn't say it this time.
	He's just like, so is Alice... You know what I mean?
	But you did.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	The only person who doesn't say it.
	Yeah, the only person you've ever not said it for.
	I was like, imagine.
	But you didn't.
	I appreciate that.
	No, there is a special rule with Dick, that Dick is only a guest, not a special guest, and I'm never excited to speak to him.
	Because he's my brother!
	Harsh, but fair.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	That's normal.
	Totally normal.
	Another reason I know that I totally love you, even more than I did before, was just before we started the podcast, I was running late and I said, just brewing some tea.
	And you said, me too.
	And I just thought... Same, yeah.
	Yes!
	I mean, it's... You've got to get a good teapot.
	If you get a good teapot, you're gonna drink so much more tea.
	Before I had a teapot, like, making tea on a cup-by-cup basis is just- it's not the one.
	You get yourself a good teapot, life-changer.
	Life-changer.
	Yeah, you see, you make- you make an interesting point there, and I'm not sure we're gonna agree on this.
	You see, I reckon that if you have too much tea, it ruins you for the cup later on in the day.
	You want gaps.
	Archa.
	I have three cups of tea a day.
	Depends on what tea, though.
	Yeah, I tend to stick to one, but I have five coffees in between that, so don't get too excited about them doing well.
	Fine, I don't know how you manage that.
	I mean, what tea are you drinking there?
	There's lemon and ginger in here.
	Oh, I see, that's the tea?
	There's lemon and ginger tea.
	That's lesbian tea, it's not real.
	I'm drinking English breakfast.
	Um, which is all I drink.
	Perfect, perfect, perfect.
	Actually it's not, no it's not.
	I've gone, I've, I've, it's actually Kenyan, or Keenian as I prefer to call it, um, because I think Kenyan is the best.
	Um, it's, it's just, it's just full on.
	Really, I just, I'm a Tetley's idiot.
	You know, an absolute moron when it comes to tea.
	Builder's Tea, actually, is not so far off Kenyan.
	It's basically all bass and warmth.
	The higher notes come from the sort of Assam and stuff, but if you want just a solid amber cup of tea, Kenyan is the way to go.
	I might go Kenyan.
	Like, you say, like, builders' team, but I think builders are gonna be, like, the new kings of the apocalyptic world, or, you know, like, electricians or plumbers or whatever.
	We need to start bowing down and worshipping these people when they're- when they're running everything.
	Like, anyone with any sort of practical skill.
	You know what I mean?
	I- I've been thinking about this.
	I don't know what use I'm gonna be.
	I suppose lifting morale will be important.
	You know, we could fit in there.
	That's the only shit we can do, isn't it?
	It's really sad.
	It's really sad.
	I've- have you got children?
	Uh, one year.
	One year hiding from the girl.
	Right, OK, yeah, you see... She's coming up to two years old.
	Oh, well, you've got all this stuff ahead.
	She'll be well used to the new paradigm by the time she's of age to go out into the world.
	But my kids are at that stage where they're about to go into the world of work, and I'm the very worst person to be advising them, or maybe the best actually, the most honest, because... Why are you advising them?
	Well, don't get a fucking job, because obviously, you know, don't join the, don't, don't get, what are they called when you have a, don't become a graduate trainee at some crappy corporation or city law firm or whatever because you'll just be total told about pronouns and and about what a evil person you are for being white and you won't get the job anyway it is interesting you are middle class how much people are hooked in by
	i have a job and i can't say anything because of my job and i can't do this because of my job and i can't object to this because of my job and i can't not have the vaccine because of because of the job you know and And you're right.
	Like, once you're in... I mean, it's the beast system, is what it is.
	And once you're in, once you depend on it, it's harder and harder to come out.
	So I think it's pretty solid advice not to enter that world if you don't have to.
	You know, because I can see where that world is going, and you're going to have to get off that train at some point if you don't want to end up taking the mark, in my opinion.
	I mean, this is a fairly dramatic opinion, but I do believe it's being played out in front of our eyes.
	So, you know, I mean, my main hope... The problem is, Asta, that you're talking to somebody who is as bad as you.
	I mean, as good as you.
	I totally agree.
	We're completely down the world as the realm of Satan.
	The world as the realm of the Prince of Lies.
	And this was always, you know, it's written in John and other bits of the Bible that that's the deal.
	So yeah, when you talk about the Mark of the Beast, I don't go think, I don't start thinking, who is this crazy religious fundamentalist who is... I think, yeah!
	Amen, brother!
	Right, but I knew you were going to agree with me, because I'm a follower of the podcast and a listener of the podcast, but I speak like this when I go on, like, regular people's shows.
	You know that I did an interview the other day?
	The guy tried to get me to talk about politics and, like, he was like, you know, well, who have you got, Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak?
	And I was talking about Jesus within, like, 30 seconds, because I was just like, I'm not entertaining any of that.
	Like, if you honestly think that Rishi Sunak is going to get you out of this, Like, you know what I mean?
	I can't even entertain that for one second, that the answer to this might be Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak is, you know, ridiculous to me.
	Like, you look at the situation that we're in, and if you're objective about it, you're like, listen, it's pretty much only Jesus that can recover this, you know, from where we are.
	Yes.
	I mean, that's not to say that this isn't the final tribulation.
	I mean, everything could get better.
	I'm sure people in World War II were thinking that this seems like the end.
	You know, Christians at the time were like, this probably seems like the Antichrist.
	He's trying to kill all the Jews.
	Tick box, right?
	So everything could get better.
	I mean, things go in like crescendos.
	So we're looking at this thinking, this is the craziest it's ever been.
	And that's true.
	But it could get better again and then there would be another crescendo that would be worse than this.
	But I honestly look around and I think, I don't see how you're going to get more crazy than this.
	I don't see how people could be more in revolt against God than they are now when you look at like transgenderism and
	Pride month and you know it's proper like Sodom and Gomorrah out there on just like a regular Tuesday it's Sodom and Gomorrah you know so I really don't see that's one of the things that makes me think that the the uh the rapture is imminent and my main hope for Heidi my main hope for my daughter and my family is that Christ will come back before she gets to like the age where she has to deal with this and and I do have a lot of hope in that
	Because I do think that, you know, I do think it can't be far away.
	I mean, I could be thousands of years out, but I don't think so.
	I'm kind of with you.
	I haven't looked into the details of the rapture.
	I mean, do we, do us followers of Jesus, do we get just like assumed into heaven without any misery in between, or do we have to go through heaps of hell first?
	Well, it's a really good question.
	It's not that the followers of Christ don't experience persecution or tribulation, which is what we're going through right now.
	Like, if you're openly Christian in today's society, you're experiencing persecution, which is something that the disciples went through.
	That the Christians went through.
	But the difference between now and the Great Tribulation and the End Times is that is the wrath of God.
	And that is something that the Church is promised in the Bible it will not experience.
	Because if you're already in Christ, if you're already saved, then why does God need to vent his wrath against you?
	The Great Tribulation is God pouring out his wrath upon the world.
	It's very different from Satan messing with you.
	We're talking about the wrath of God.
	That's very different from Satan messing with you.
	It's way, way, way, way, way worse.
	And the only reason that God is going to do that is to wake people up that God is real and Jesus is the Savior.
	That's the reason why he's going to put you through this amazing tribulation is to wake you up.
	Now, if you're already in Christ, Why would God vent his wrath on you to wake you up?
	You're already awake!
	It also doesn't tie in with... Jesus is always referring to the church as his bride, and he's the bridegroom.
	And if you research the way a Jewish wedding would work,
	Would be they would be betrothed to be married and then the bridegroom was would disappear for a for an indeterminate amount of time about a year usually and then he would come back by surprise and the bride would then be taken back with him so we're in that period now Jesus has been the bridegroom has betrothed himself to the church now Jesus has gone away and when Jesus comes back that's when the Christians ascend I mean when he comes back we'll meet him in the air the Bible says so Christians will be
	out of here and then if you're still on the earth then then then it's uh then it's uh tribulation time.
	That's whoa whoa yeah i don't i don't want to be i i i that makes me worry slightly about those of my friends and family who haven't you know got of course got jesus yeah of course Of course!
	That's my number one concern in life.
	Like, I'm no longer concerned with, like, trying to have a career or anything of that nature, which is completely denied to me.
	But it's like, no, no, no, I just, I'm just, I'm a fisher of men now.
	I'm trying to save the people nearest to me and dearest to me and trying to explain to them the significance of Christ because there's nothing else I can do for anyone.
	I can't, I can't stop this.
	What's happening?
	Can you stop this?
	No one can.
	No.
	Have you, I imagine you have, have you reached that stage where when you, when sort of friends or relatives die, you think it's sad but actually it's okay because they're going to go to a better place.
	You know, I don't see death in the way that I used to before I properly got into the God thing.
	No, I don't, yeah, I don't, death holds no fear for me now, but it depends, if I've got like a close family member or a friend or something that I know has rejected Christ and they think that the God is a whole load of nonsense, then I would be concerned for that person because, you know, the whole point of this life is to realise and to figure out That your salvation is in Christ and that's the only place it can come from.
	And that, by the way, is the reason why this world is being allowed to go to hell.
	So people can realise, like, oh, this world is going to hell.
	And that's to make people realise that God is real and that they need salvation through Christ.
	That's the reason why this is all going to get worse.
	And, you know, it's unstoppable for us to do, you know, anything about it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, people, this is hilarious, right?
	Funny comedian.
	Sorry, I couldn't help it.
	Yeah, I know.
	Well, this is the weird thing.
	You were saying that, you know, you went, what, straight to Jesus or within about 30 seconds of appearing.
	I'm the same with... I've never had a filter.
	But now I realise why God created me without a filter.
	It was for this mission that I'm... I really don't... I have no embarrassment.
	I have no sense of, like, ooh, should I say that?
	I'm just straight in there with all the stuff.
	Perfect.
	That's what the world needs.
	A journalist, someone with no filter, to just call this like it is.
	You know, which no one else is.
	I'm shocked, I'm always shocked about the number of journalists that are like you, which is like zero.
	I mean, is it one or two?
	It's like, you're supposed to all be like James.
	All of you are supposed to be like, just digging for the truth and protecting us.
	And you're the worst ones!
	You're the ones just destroying us.
	You look at what the news and the mainstream media and the journalists have done to the world, it's like...
	Oh, you can see the inversion, can't you?
	You can see how they're literally doing the opposite of what they should be doing.
	So we know whose handiwork it is.
	Going back to that point about the world being the realm of the Prince of Lies.
	So, if you're the Prince of Lies, which is going to be the most important industry?
	Well, OK, there are going to be others, because it's going to be Hollywood, and there's probably going to be pop music.
	But almost number one has got to be the media.
	I mean, duh.
	Yeah.
	Or extensions of it, yeah.
	And if you look at the... Sorry, non-Christians.
	Sorry if I'm boring you.
	But this is all true, this stuff.
	It's not made up shit.
	I didn't make this up.
	It was already there.
	It's written in the Bible and stuff.
	I don't think that it's like all my journalistic colleagues are evil.
	I mean, I think they're cowardly, and I think that they've prioritised the wrong things, but it's...
	What they've done is being seduced by the wiles of Satan.
	And among the wiles of Satan are things like, oh, I've got to think about my family and my career, and oh, OK, I know I'm not telling the full truth, but by staying in my job, I'll just let out snippets of truth.
	All the excuses that people make to justify their sins.
	You've read, I've just been reading that C.S.
	Lewis book, Mere Christianity, and he talks about this, about how we're always making, you know, I had to do it because, and actually you don't, you can burn all your bridges and sort the earth and poison the wells like you've done, like Bob Moran has done, you know, it is possible to I was fortunate in that they took everything I had from me for telling the truth before I believed in God.
	So I was out there trying to become a famous comedian.
	I was trying to, you know, make it in the entertainment industry.
	But there was some principles that I had that I wouldn't bend on.
	I didn't want to turn people against each other.
	And that just wasn't good enough.
	So I lost everything.
	They destroyed me for not going along with what they wanted me to do.
	We've got to talk about this.
	Fortunately, I had nothing.
	What have I got to lose?
	Take me through the process, because, OK, I want to know, um, how old were you when you decided to become a comedian?
	Oh, OK.
	30.
	30 years old.
	I was working in advertising, making a decent salary, and then I did a stand-up.
	I did an open mic, because I always knew I wanted to be a comedian.
	I went to the comedy store for my 18th birthday, so I always knew I wanted to do it.
	I didn't try it until I was 30, and then as soon as I tried it, I was like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
	I know I wanted to do this from when I was 18.
	Why have I waited until I was 30?
	And then I spent a few years doing it in my spare time.
	And then eventually I started making enough money where I could be poor and do it and work as a waiter in the breakfast club at the same time.
	And all my sort of middle class friends, I lost a load of them then when I was waiting tables and stuff, because they were just not interested.
	Like, what is this guy doing?
	He's ruining his life.
	He's working in a, what are you doing?
	You're working, you know, as a waiter?
	I'm like, what are you doing?
	I was like, OK.
	So I lost a load of friends there.
	And then I lost a load more people while I was being a comedian, because you have to spend every weekend working and you're not going to social occasions, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	So I put all my eggs in this basket of being a famous comedian.
	That's how my life is going to make sense.
	That's how I'm going to be happy.
	I'm going to be a comedian.
	And I got really, really good at it to the point where I got an agent.
	And then when I got an agent, They started wanting me to just lead people into misery, basically.
	I started coming up with jokes about how we're using our phones too much, and they were like, oh, you can't use any of these.
	And I'm like, these are my best jokes.
	Like, we're on our phones too much.
	And for no reason, the agent was just like, oh, no.
	And then they wanted me to, can you just talk about how white people are racist?
	And I'm like, well, listen, I'd love to.
	Unfortunately, that's racist.
	So, I can't do that.
	You know, and I had a team of people around me, I was signed to this agency where I was the only white comedian they were representing, all their other, uh, acts were, um, non-white, if you like, so they're like the agency that looks after the non-white acts, and they signed me, so everyone was just like...
	Well, why have they signed this straight white male?
	Because I was good, right?
	And... Yeah.
	No one would book me because I was a white male, and from that I became friends with, like, the black guys in comedy.
	Because, I don't know, I don't know what they had to relate to me, but it was like I was good at what I was doing, but I was being denied because of the colour of my skin, so I end up being friends with...
	Um, the black comics, but then I was kicked up, we all had a podcast together, it was called Quotas Full, where I was like the white guy, we had like an Asian guy, like a black guy, right?
	And then I was kicked off of that on one episode where it was International Men's Day, and they were saying how the best thing that men can do to be manly is to cry, and I was just like, vehemently against that i was like that's nonsense so i got kicked off of that podcast lost all my friends in the same day uh lost my lost my agent all the comedy clubs stopped booking me after the brexit burger king thing
	so i lost literally lost everything and at that moment god revealed himself to me because i lost everything for telling the truth before i even believed in And this is how Jesus found me.
	I didn't really go looking for God.
	I opened the door and I asked God, I said, look, if you're real, come in here and show me, give me peace, because I'm losing everything for trying to do the right thing.
	And that's when I started believing in God.
	And then it's just...
	I just want to go into more detail about the bit just before God.
	First of all, I'm amazed at how much micromanagement goes into the material of a comic.
	I'd always assumed that it was up to you whether you died on the stage or not, and it was up to the audience to decide what was die-worthy.
	But is that not the case?
	It depends who you are.
	It depends who you are and it depends what you're saying.
	If you're saying something that's against the establishment narrative, you better be prepared for that to be censored, chopped up, have your agent edit it, manage it.
	Yet they do so under the guise of like, oh this is not commercial or this is not going to get you over on TV.
	Interestingly, the first show I did was about food and how people should not eat processed food.
	I discovered that before I discovered God.
	I discovered that I went to do a comedy show about what type of food people should be eating, and I discovered that there's only two types of food.
	There's food, and processed food.
	And processed food kills you.
	And food, it gives you life.
	And I was like, well, this is odd.
	It's almost like...
	All the food that we haven't created is incredible, and all the food that we have created kills you.
	And, you know, now that I'm a Christian, I believe in God, I see that, yeah, all the food that's lying around is made by God.
	So I started a show based on that, and they were trying to destroy me.
	And I was like, why are you trying to destroy me?
	I'm telling people to eat cucumbers, and have spinach, and I'm making it funny, and it's accessible, and all they would do is, the industry were like, oh, Alistair hates fat people, that's what they would say.
	I was like, man, fat people love this show because I'm not blaming them.
	I'm blaming, like, the sugar in the food and how we're all addicted to it, but we really don't have much choice.
	You know, so that was a real eye opener where it was like, OK, the industry hates me because I'm trying to help people.
	And then that just played out.
	And the more into my comedy career I went, the further I realized, like, oh, if I try to help people, the industry wants to destroy me.
	If I want to make people laugh, the industry hates me.
	Like, feminism was a big thing.
	And at the time, I could see feminism for what it was.
	I'm like, this is nonsense.
	This is man-hating, and you're actually just trying to turn women into men.
	That's what feminism is, a celebration of anything feminine.
	It's like, go and get a job, and be a man, and wear a suit.
	It's trying to turn women into men, and women are miserable.
	Since these feminists came in and started trying to devalue what it is to be a woman.
	Like, oh, you don't want to stay at home and look after the kids.
	You've got to go out there and be a banker.
	That's what makes you a woman.
	It's like, it's inverted again, so I can see who's behind it.
	So I pretty much quickly figured out, you know, all this, all these social constructs that destroy society, they're all cooked up in this sort of witch's cauldron from the comedy industry.
	You know, all the comedians are told to have the same line, feminism is great, men are toxic, and they all go along with it and they cook up this cauldron and they sort of pump it into the veins of humanity.
	And I was trying to deconstruct all their little social constructs and they hated me for that.
	That's interesting.
	It's interesting that they are so jealous of the narrative.
	I mean, I think back to some of the programmes I used to watch a long time ago which I used to find funny.
	For example, Men Behaving Badly.
	What is the premise of Men Badly?
	It's basically men are absolutely useless.
	They just sit around on the sofa drinking beer, farting, watching TV, and it's the women who do all the good stuff.
	And this was a trope repeated endlessly in advertising, particularly.
	You always had the incompetent man and the hyper-competent woman.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's relentless, isn't it?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They don't want men being men.
	They don't want us, you know, to defend society like we're supposed to.
	So do you think, I mean, what I've, what I've learned in the last couple of years about the music industry, which is satanic to the nth degree, and the people who are... You know that Satan was in charge of music in heaven?
	I didn't... You say it's...
	That's his job in heaven, music.
	Interesting, isn't it?
	Is that where the phrase the devil has all the best tunes come from?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's totally in charge of the music industry, like, clearly.
	He totally is.
	It's obvious to anyone paying any remote attention.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sorry to interrupt.
	Have you seen the letter, the story told by somebody who was in A&R in the 1980s, and he was there at the birth of gangster rap?
	Do you remember this?
	I've not seen that letter.
	No, no, I don't remember it.
	Either you'll have seen it on the internet or you won't, and obviously you haven't.
	It's really fascinating.
	So he's in, I think, in LA, and he describes that all the A&Rs are called to this meeting.
	It's about a new development that's going to take place in music.
	And these sort of suits turn up, these mysterious men, and they explain that here's the deal.
	Rap music is far too kind of positive and uplifting, and what they want to do is make it much, much darker.
	And that this is going to, you know, it's going to be about bitches and hoes and gats and all this stuff.
	I mean, I have to say, I've got quite a soft spot for that kind of rap.
	I don't like the consciousness stuff, but anyway.
	I mean, you know, I like Dr Dre and stuff and, you know, stuff about blunts and stuff, but... Of course.
	Who doesn't?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's got great hooks, hasn't it?
	And it's edgy.
	But, at the same time...
	The purpose of this development in rap music was absolutely admitted in this conference, which was that we've got all these private prisons and there's going to be a boom market in crime and we're going to take advantage of that with our private prisons because we're going to encourage The black, you know, the black community to, to commit crime, through their music.
	And it, it... It's very transparent, isn't it?
	It is.
	It's very, but if you just, if you just step back and look at it, it's like, oh, you're a black guy?
	Here's your hero.
	We're the music industry.
	Here's your hero.
	What does he do?
	Okay, he sells drugs and he shoots people.
	And he's homophobic and he hates women and he's a misogynist and, and he's on a boat with loads of arses around him and he's throwing money around.
	Here's who you look up to.
	It's like, oh, you're not trying to destroy these communities, are you?
	No, no, God no.
	Oh, God no.
	Like Jay-Z and Beyoncé and all their silly little 666 eyes and all their photographs and stuff.
	It's like...
	It's a rabbit hole that you can go down, like how much these musicians worship Satan.
	But they're on record, most of them, saying that, yeah, I sold my soul to the devil to get into this industry.
	But you look at some of the music videos.
	Now, there's literally a music video where some guy's, like, lap dancing for the devil, and he brought out some 666 trainers with, like, human blood in them.
	It's like, Guys, how obvious do they need to make it before you believe me that the devil's real?
	You know, they're bringing out 666 trainers, they're getting plugged in the arse by the devil in a music video.
	It's like, really?
	How much more?
	Do you need someone, the devil, to be literally in the video and say, hey, I'm the devil, I'm in charge of this music video, and you're going to hell if you like this music.
	It couldn't be any more obvious.
	But people, they don't see it.
	I don't know how you don't see it.
	I don't know how people don't realise what's really going on in the world.
	People have even forgotten that the year is 2022, right?
	But when I ask people, what does that mean, 2022, they stare at me blankly.
	I'm like, 2022 years since what?
	The whole of time revolves around one man.
	Do you even know who it is?
	And they sort of have to think about it.
	And they're like, oh, well, you mean like Jesus, like before Christ?
	Yeah, the man who stopped time that you don't even think about.
	You don't even read the words he said.
	You know what I mean?
	Anyone that doesn't believe in God, but believes they're in 2022, it's like you don't believe in Jesus, but you believe that you'll live in 2022 years after Jesus was born.
	Like your birthday tells you how many years after Jesus you were born, but you're not looking into Jesus.
	You're looking into Jay-Z.
	Alright.
	Alright.
	I would... Sure.
	I would very happily pay money to see you say this stuff, because although what you say is true, it's also, you know, it's funny and it's true.
	Do you, I mean, surely you must go down well with audiences.
	I mean, you're good at this stuff.
	If they let me do comedy, I would be, because it's rarely I can get a comedy gig now, but if they let me, I would be using my skills as a comedian to show people the obvious truth that is in Christ.
	And it's no wonder that I'm barely allowed to touch the stage anymore because I showed them what I can do with the Brexit Burger King thing.
	I showed them that, listen, I can destroy your narratives in 45 seconds.
	And I can get people that are totally brainwashed by you that are like, oh, Remain and Brexit's a racist.
	And I can close it down like that.
	And I could do it again.
	You know, I'm currently... I've got jokes about the vaccine.
	I've got people that are vaccinated laughing at the fact that they're vaccinated.
	I've got them laughing at the fact that... I've got the premise is basically you guys just got vaccinated to go on holiday.
	Like, I know you like to pretend that you're good people and you were trying to help Grandad.
	You just want to go to Tenerife.
	And they're all accepting this.
	They're like, yes, that's exactly why I got vaccinated.
	This is so damaging to the establishment because once people accept that they just did it to go on holiday, now they're willing to say, oh yeah, these vaccines are shit.
	Because they're not, they don't feel like they have to own the argument of, no, no, the vaccine's great and I'm glad I got it.
	Now they're like, no, no, okay, yeah, I just want to go on holiday.
	You got me.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's a shame, because, of course, had you had the death jab, you would be able to tour, probably the Bible Belt, at least, in America.
	And you'd get on a storm.
	I mean, I can't get into America, I can't get an ESTA anymore.
	For no reason.
	Yeah, for no... But I got denied an ESTA.
	You know when you go to America and you apply for an ESTA?
	I just got denied.
	No reason.
	That's interesting.
	People think the social credit score from China is a myth or whatever.
	I'm telling you, since this Brexit Burger King thing, I'm living in it.
	Like, if my life can be impacted in some sort of digital way, it is.
	Down to, like, if I go on tour with three other comedians, my hotel room will be the smallest room in the whole place, and everyone else will have, like, a nice room.
	One of the guys on reception let it slip.
	He was like, oh, you're the Brexit Burger King guy.
	Enjoy your room.
	Like, he was, like, letting me know.
	Like, yeah, we know who you are.
	I'm gonna give you a shit room.
	And I was like, oh, that's why everything's fucking up for me.
	There's a digital black spot on me now.
	And it follows me everywhere.
	So people are like, oh, social credit score might be coming.
	I'm like, it's here!
	Criticise the establishment!
	It'll happen to you.
	It's been happening to me for years.
	Could you not... I mean, I know this is a problem because I've had difficulty finding venues.
	You know when I did that thing with Margie Narwhals?
	Yeah.
	So we were booted out of the first venue because there are people who specialise in closing down people like us.
	And the card they normally play is the anti-Semitism card.
	And what grounds are you an anti-Semite?
	Well, indeed.
	That's it.
	They can just say it.
	It's like a... I don't need grounds.
	Yeah, yeah, I know.
	Seems to rhyme.
	But, so, we got this place which was a Christian centre, you know, whatever it's called.
	The Emmanuel Centre.
	And, you know, me, a Christian, on stage with a Muslim and, you know, Jewish sponsors and things.
	And ten minutes before the thing was due to start, The woman managing the place comes up to me and say, we've had complaints.
	And I said, what?
	Not started yet.
	You're going to say anti-Semitic stuff.
	And I'm thinking, what?
	What?
	Like, I don't know.
	How do you possibly know what I'm about to say?
	It was extraordinary.
	So I know what the situation is like.
	And it's hard because the venues are Well, I suppose they're nervous, aren't they?
	They're nervous of health and safety, or they're nervous of something.
	They've got the handy array of excuses to justify why it's more convenient for them not to take your money.
	Yeah, they control the rooms.
	People are like to me, like, come up north, do a gig up north, I'll come.
	It's like, I can't get a room.
	Like, they won't give me a... like, the whole touring circuit is completely locked up by the establishment.
	You can't go on tour if you're not one of the gang.
	You can't get to rooms.
	Not only can you not get to rooms, your social media will be deleted.
	Now, how are you even gonna tell people that you're on tour?
	You know, like, all of that is... I've got no chance of doing any of that.
	I'm lucky if I get the occasional gig every now and then now.
	Do you ever get comics... Do you ever get comics...
	I mean, because you are, you know, you would, were you allowed to be, I mean, you're a first-rate comedic talent, if I may say so.
	Do, so the people on the circuit, do they ever say to you, look, mate, I'm sorry, you know, I feel shit that, you know, I'm playing the game and you're not, you're very brave, I respect that.
	Not really.
	I mean- Fuckers.
	Not really.
	Some occasionally might do, but it's more just like people just kind of ignore what's happening to me.
	They kind of just don't mention it, they don't say anything about it.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like- Yeah.
	That's the way they deal with it.
	They're like, how was that?
	They just, you know.
	Yeah.
	Like when Jordan Peterson was kicked off Twitter and it was like, he's been kicked off Twitter and he's done this video!
	It's like, I was removed from YouTube like two years ago.
	No one gave a shit.
	Like, they were like, there's a big outcry amongst comedians, like, Jerry Sadowitz has his show cancelled!
	I'm like, oh no, quick, let's all rally around Jerry Sadowitz!
	I'm like, you know they cancelled all my live work, and my YouTube channel, everything, like, like more than once, like, and nobody gave a shit.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, no one...
	No one from the comedy industry is coming to save me.
	Like, more often than not, they're the people that are saying that I, that I should be banned.
	Even though, uniquely with me, there's not even any offence that people can point to.
	You know, usually people get cancelled, and like, because they said this, or they offended that group of people.
	With me, it was like, no, my joke was popular amongst both sides of the fence.
	That was always their problem with me, is I don't actually offend anyone.
	Which is a nightmare for them.
	If you, if you piss off half the people, they love that.
	You're allowed to keep going.
	It's like, if you've got, like, right-wing opinions and all the left-wing hate you, they're like, sweet, keep going.
	Like, a lot of people that people consider controlled opposition, they're not necessarily controlled opposition, they're just, they're on the right, they piss off everyone on the left, and that's cool.
	Like, you're allowed to keep going if that's, if you start bringing people together, that's way different.
	That's actually their worst nightmare.
	They don't mind having two sides going at it.
	That's what they actually want.
	Yeah.
	You're right.
	I've been sort of looking back on the media and sort of wondering why I never saw it at the time.
	Why I never saw that I was part of this lie machine.
	And it's... When did you see it?
	Very recently.
	When did you first realise something's up?
	The very first time I realised, and this is just amazing, I mean it must mean I'm incredibly thick or something.
	It's odd.
	The real eye-opener for me was the stolen presidential election.
	I mean, you know, I'm not particularly carrying a torch for Trump now, I'm sort of agnostic about him, but I found it Gobsmacking.
	Genuinely gobsmacking that the kind of journalists that I thought were, you know, the sort of the sassy supposedly right-wing commentators, I'm not going to name names but you know who they are, the kind of people who I thought were like me, I mean genuinely I thought they were like me, and you know the sort of people that you have discussions with, drunken conversations with, about what you'd have done had you been in the Second World War and you'd have been either a Spitfire pilot
	Or you'd have been on the first tanker shore at Normandy.
	Or, you know, you'd have been hiding Anne Frank in your, in your cupboard or whatever.
	Never, never once in these scenarios to say, well, I would have run away before the first shot was fired.
	And these people, these people that I thought were mench, you know, were my comrades, comrades just now.
	And they were looking at this flagrantly stolen presidential election.
	I mean, the fraud was massive and epic and just undeniable.
	And they were going, There's nonsense about the election being stolen.
	If they even acknowledged that there was a debate about it, they weren't going to look into it, they weren't going to admit it, including certain right-wing magazines that I wrote for.
	I just didn't want to know.
	And I was thinking...
	This is like you're gaslighting the world into thinking something hasn't happened when it really has happened.
	And America is like... I always thought it was the leader of the free world.
	I thought it was the land of the free and the home of the brave and whatever.
	I thought as America goes, so goes the world.
	And if you're saying that it is now legitimate to steal An election when all my life I've been told America is amazing because of these checks and balances and the Supreme Court and the separation of powers and etc etc.
	If you're now saying that none of this matters, it doesn't matter whether fraud can take place, why are you a journalist at all?
	Why do you even bother?
	Why not just become a professional liar?
	Well, that's the way you are.
	Not far off, are they?
	I mean, it's the same thing, there's a... there's a... I'm not gonna name names either, but there's a couple of right-wing comedians who host, like, a popular YouTube show, and I remember tuning in to them, and they were just like...
	Oh, it's terrible the way they say there's election fraud.
	I mean, there's clearly no election fraud.
	I'm like, oh, you're in on it as well!
	Like, how you could not see... Do you remember when, in the counting houses, they were, like, boarding up the windows?
	It was like, if you're playing Monopoly with someone, and they're the banker, and they... I'm just gonna count the money, and they go into the other room, and they board up the windows while they're... You're not like, mm, I wonder if they're cheating.
	Like, you know?
	It's so... And this is just one thing.
	You can got the busloads of votes turning up at two o'clock in the morning.
	You know, one place, the counting that stopped in, I was live streaming the election, the counting stopped in every state Trump was ahead in.
	It's never happened before.
	They never stopped counting in all the swing states at the same time, waited until the next day.
	It's like, it's not even debatable whether there was election fraud.
	And one thing I will say about Trump is it's undeniable that what he has done is he's shown you the board.
	He's shown you who is actually on your side, like you said.
	He's shown you, look, look at all these journalists that you thought were on your side.
	Look, look how they've all turned on this fake election.
	And he's done the same in politics.
	Like, you know, like Mike Pence, like Lindsey Graham, like all these Republican politicians.
	He showed, like, on January 6th, where they were supposed to say, yes, oh, we're not, we're not ...verifying these election results and they were like, well unfortunately because something random just happened today I'm gonna be verifying and it's like, oh you're in on it as well!
	You know?
	So one thing he has done is he's shown people how corrupt the system is.
	You know?
	And judge a tree by its fruit.
	I look at the fruit that's around the tree of this man and The whole fake news thing.
	Before Trump, I didn't think the news was fake.
	Now, I know it's all fake.
	You know?
	And you have to pinpoint that to him and his campaign.
	And it's like, if Trump's one of them, a lot of people are like, Trump's one of them.
	It's like, he's one of them.
	Why has he completely exposed the mainstream media news, which we know is their main weapon?
	We touched on it at the beginning of this podcast.
	Their main weapon is the mainstream media news.
	Trump destroyed it.
	CNN is a mess.
	BBC is cooked.
	I remember when BBC had a Trump balloon in their office, and I did a whole video on it back when I had a YouTube channel.
	I was like, you idiots have got a balloon in the studio and you're asking me to take you seriously?
	You've blown up a Trump balloon and you're asking me to believe that you're an impartial noose?
	This is the president of our greatest ally, you fucking idiots.
	And you've got a big Trump balloon in the studio, not just covering the balloon.
	They blew up one in the fucking studio.
	It's like, and you're asking me to believe that you have any shred of integrity?
	No!
	No, you're all... you're all scum!
	All of you!
	And comedians still work with the BBC these days, and they go on Twitter and they're like, great news, I'm working with the BBC, I'm like, you know these guys cover up for paedophiles?
	How the hell are you still working with them?
	You know Jimmy Saffold was like, eating dead children or whatever?
	And they covered the whole fucking thing up, along with the grooming gangs?
	And you're just like, hey I'm on BBC Sounds!
	It's like, am I living in a different world to everyone else?
	You know what I mean?
	It's insane!
	They're like, oh we're good on BBC!
	It's like, oh great!
	Well done!
	They literally cover up for paedophiles, guys!
	Anyone else?
	No, it's literally only fucking me!
	Comedy is basically like me and like maybe two or three others that are just like, fuck the BBC.
	But that's what got me into trouble.
	The bottom of my Brexit Birkin video, I did like subtitles where I was just like, this guy's never going to be on TV again.
	I actually let them, I let the industry kind of have it where I was like, because people are laughing, you'll never see or hear from me again.
	And boy, was that true.
	Boy, was that true.
	You know, so I do have it to... Sort of, I have myself to blame.
	Like, somebody said to me the other day, if you don't want any allies, you won't have any.
	And I was like, shit, that is me.
	That is me.
	You know?
	Yeah, but don't you think the smell of burning bridges is... It's a bit like the smell of napalm in the morning.
	It's just glorious.
	Oh, it's glorious.
	Actually, what it is... I don't want to be part of this world.
	Screw it.
	Actually, it's not burning bridges.
	You know what it is?
	It's like we've burned our boats.
	We've landed.
	We're like Vikings.
	We've burned our boats.
	We've come ashore.
	We're here.
	That's it.
	We can't escape that.
	Like the Memnon.
	Yeah.
	It's a great movie.
	That's exactly what it is.
	Exactly what it is.
	We've burned our boat.
	There's no going back.
	I don't want any root back into this, you know, horrible, horrible system that people like with the vaccine, for example, like we call it the poison death jab or what is it?
	In my opinion, that's not what it's for.
	I don't think they're trying to, you can't just give everyone an injection and 80% of the people die.
	Okay.
	You'll be left with 20% of the world going, who the fuck did this?
	Okay.
	What, what they're getting people used to is do this or else.
	Take this, or else you can't be part of the system.
	Take this, or you can't go on holiday.
	And at the end of this road, I guarantee you, even non-religious people that are listening, I guarantee you, the end of this road is take the Mark of the Beast, worship Satan, or you're out.
	So you've got to get off this train, guys, at some point, because that's the final stop.
	Like, you know, at the moment, it's, you can't go on a holiday unless... But at the end of this, I promise you, All of this is in the Bible, down from the cashless society to the one world government.
	It's all in the book of Revelation.
	You can read the future.
	The Bible is history pre-written.
	It's all in there.
	I guarantee you what's coming at the end is worship the devil or you're out.
	You won't be able to buy or sell, basically.
	And you can see the beginnings of it.
	You can see the beginnings of do this so you can't go on holiday.
	Do this so you can't have fresh milk or whatever.
	But I promise you that's where it's going.
	I promise you.
	Well, this is what Patriarch Kirill said of the Russian Orthodox Church.
	He said that the vaccines are the mark of the beast.
	And it makes sense.
	So much of the Bible makes sense.
	It's really exciting discovering this stuff, isn't it?
	Becoming a Christian.
	I'll tell you what it feels like for me.
	It feels like suddenly becoming, not that I ever would, but suddenly becoming interested in football.
	And suddenly there's all these stats to absorb, you know, all these players to learn about, all this history.
	And you can become an expert about football.
	But Christianity is so much better than that, because you've got 2,000 years of history and tradition.
	You've got the Bible going back even earlier than that.
	You've got all this cool stuff to discover.
	Some of the brightest people in history have been talking about this stuff and debating this stuff.
	It's not an embarrassing thing, I don't think.
	It's also like, do you have any idea how much you can improve your life just by reading this book?
	Like, every problem you can ever have is covered in this book.
	The first problem I came to the Bible with was, the world hates me.
	Okay?
	I've lost everything for doing the right thing.
	I've lost everything.
	The world hates me.
	I was like, what do you got for me, Bible?
	The world hates me.
	Jesus said, if the world hates you, remember that it hated me first.
	And I was like, oh my god, that's true!
	Jesus just went around helping people and they tortured him to death!
	It's like, oh my, I'm on the same path as Jesus!
	And I brightened up instantly!
	I was like, bearing in mind I came to this book saying the world hates me, there's no way you can fix me, and within two seconds I'm seeing how I'm on the same path as Jesus, I feel tremendous, and then the second thing the Bible taught me was, in the book of Matthew, Jesus says, is it better to suffer because you've done the right thing?
	Or because you've done the wrong thing.
	Because if you're suffering because you've done the right thing, you can think, well, you know, I'm doing the right thing and that's why all this misery is on you.
	Whereas if you're a scumbag and you're suffering because you tried to steal and you got caught, that's true misery.
	And I realised the truth of that.
	It was like, oh yeah, it's true.
	And all of a sudden my suffering doesn't seem too bad at all.
	You know, this book turned my life of suffering and misery around in 15 seconds.
	You know, and I was like, well this is the Word of God, because it rings true.
	If it really was the Word of God, these words would have this power, and it does.
	You know, it's written by God.
	People that don't believe in Jesus, read the Gospel and try and find a lie that this guy told.
	If you think he's lying about being the Son of God, find one other lie that he's told.
	Find a piece of the Bible and go, Jesus said this and it's nonsense.
	I bet you can't.
	That's how I approached the Bible.
	I was like, let me find some rubbish that Jesus said.
	Good luck with that.
	Good luck with that, you know?
	Can I just pin you down here?
	So, you were feeling... You'd lost everything.
	You were feeling really, really, really shit.
	And you just thought, I don't know, I'll look at the Bible and see what... How did it happen?
	Remember I told you I was on this podcast where I was the only white guy and they would sort of hammer me every week for being a white person who doesn't think that white people are shit, right?
	And this lady, they were hammering me and I was getting all this sort of... But the people who listen to the podcast would often like me.
	They'd be like, oh no, leave Alex for alone, I think he's doing a good job.
	And this lady sent me a tweet and it was...
	Salaam Alaikum, she said to me.
	And I was like, I wonder what that means.
	Let me just Google what that means.
	She was greeting me in the peace of God.
	And I just thought to myself, let me just... I wonder what the peace of God would feel like.
	And I said that in my mind.
	I wonder what the peace of... And it just washed over me like rain through my soul.
	I never felt such peace before.
	And I just remember being terrified.
	I was like, oh my, God is, God's real!
	I was like, I don't know how to make myself, someone was like, how do you know you didn't make yourself feel like that?
	It's like, listen bro, if I could make myself feel like that, I'd feel like that all the time.
	I can't make myself feel like that.
	And biblically, Jesus says, knock and I'll answer.
	Call me to come in and I'll come in.
	That was the first time I ever in my life said, God, Come in, show me what it's like.
	And God immediately did that for me, and my eyes were opened.
	And that was when Jesus found me, and I've just been on the path following Him ever since.
	Right.
	That's a very impressive... What's the word?
	It's not conversion, is it?
	It's a sort of... Yeah, what is it?
	Conversion?
	What's the word for that?
	Testimony.
	It's a testimony to... The Bible says everyone should be able to give reason.
	What's the event?
	The blinding revelation, is it?
	It's great.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, that's what happened.
	That's a really great story.
	This is the thing that I think that once you see this stuff, It doesn't become a sort of awkward subject because, you know, we're trained culturally, you know, for the last century and a half at least there has been this war on Christianity and I'm sure Freud has got a lot to do with it.
	The whole culture is designed to, even Christian worship at private schools like the one I attended, I'm sure it's all designed to put you off God and to make you think, oh, this is just cringe.
	Anything but God is the devil's strategy.
	Anything but God.
	They want you to think about anything but God.
	The devil doesn't care what you're thinking about as long as it's not God.
	That's it.
	And once you realise that, all of our culture and everything makes total sense.
	The fact that they don't teach you about Jesus in history.
	Is such a sneaky little lie, because they teach you about him in religious education, right?
	But no one believes what they teach you in religious education, because you think it's separate from history.
	But all history revolves around Jesus.
	The Bible is the greatest historical document of all time.
	But they sneak it out of history, and they teach it to you in religious education, and everyone thinks, well, I'll just ignore religious education.
	If they taught you about Jesus in history, everyone would think that he was real.
	You know?
	There's so many little sneaky tricks that they use to get you to take your eyes off Jesus, which is the only way for people to be saved.
	It is a rabbit hole, though.
	I mean, in a good... well, all rabbit holes are good, I think.
	But I find I'm on a continual mission of discovery, that I'm trying to find out what is the... do you find this?
	Trying to find out what is the essence of What is the pure message of Christianity and what are the accretions of political movements over time and vested interests and stuff?
	What have the corrupt people from the church invented and what's real?
	Do you find that?
	That's a good one.
	I mean, if you remember when they asked Jesus what's the golden rule and he says do unto others as others would have do unto you?
	I always think about that and I think if everyone in the world did that Where would we be on this planet if they just followed that one golden rule that Jesus says, do to other people as you would have done to yourself.
	If everyone did that we would be living in a form of heaven on earth.
	So that convinces me Jesus knows the way to heaven because he just told you how to get there in two seconds.
	In one sentence Jesus has come up with a strategy that if everyone followed it we would truly be living in heaven on earth.
	You know, so this validates for me that the message that Christ has, that it's true.
	When I said earlier, you find the things that Jesus said and ask yourself, is this true?
	Is this true?
	Everything he said is true.
	The only thing you can maybe question is whether he's the Son of God.
	If Jesus was lying about being the Son of God, it's the only lie that he told.
	And isn't that strange?
	That a man who said nothing but truth, including on subjects as difficult as How would we create heaven on earth?
	Treat others as you would have them treat you.
	Done.
	Although to be fair, I think he didn't say he was the son of God, he said he was the son of man.
	Does he ever say I'm the son of God?
	He's always dodging that particular one, because it's a trap.
	He says in the book of John, I think, it's like, as you treat God, treat me.
	He clearly claims in a couple of parts of the Bible, he says he has the power to forgive sins.
	When he heals the paralyzed man, he heals the paralyzed man and he says to him, your sins are forgiven.
	And all the religious leaders at the time are like, you know, they're all like, your sins are forgiven.
	And he says to them, well is it easier for me to say your sins are forgiven or get up and walk?
	You know, what Jesus is saying is, I know you're going to kill me because I'm saying I'm the Son of God.
	But I'm saying to you I'm the Son of God so you know I have the power to forgive sins.
	Jesus is saying, I know I'm going to be crucified.
	And I could easily just be a healer.
	But I'm here to tell you that I'm the Son of God.
	I have the power to forgive sins for your own benefit.
	Which is what Jesus did.
	He died for us.
	You know, life is actually very easy.
	Everything you've ever done wrong has been forgiven as the price has been paid by Christ on the cross.
	All you have to do is accept it.
	But people are so selfish and they're just like, no, that's too much.
	I can't accept that all my sins have been forgiven.
	I can't accept that someone has paid the price for everything I've done wrong.
	I'm too selfish.
	It's really insane that God has made it so easy for you.
	You don't have to do everything right.
	You don't have to never sin.
	He sent his only son to be crucified for everything you've done wrong.
	All you have to do is accept it.
	And we're like, nah.
	Nah, sorry mate.
	Nah, not interested.
	Too much.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's not onerous in many ways, and I can't remember if I was saying this to you the other day, it's not like we have to get up at 3am for the first of a series of prayers to Mecca.
	It's not like, we don't have to become vegetarian.
	In fact, on the contrary, I think we're encouraged, we're almost enjoined to eat meat.
	I think there are bits of the Bible where they warn against people being denied Sorry?
	But this is the thing, James.
	When you look at the establishment narratives, anyone that understands the Bible can see that they're all anti-Bible.
	Yes.
	You start reading the Bible, you're going to get to paragraph, like, three before it starts being violated.
	God made them male and female.
	Guess what?
	Guess what?
	That's being attacked.
	God made the earth for human beings to go forth and multiply.
	Climate change, guess what?
	That's being attacked.
	Every single law that God made is under attack by this world.
	If you knew what the Bible said, you would see how much it's under attack, like nothing else.
	You know, it's all about attacking God.
	Every nonsense that you see in this world that you don't understand, like, why are they trying to turn men into women?
	Because God made you a man.
	And God made her a woman.
	And therefore they can attack God by attacking everything that he's created and everything that he's said.
	Every establishment assault is actually an assault on God if you read the Bible.
	And that's how you know that it's true.
	Yeah, that's true.
	I love having an argument with sort of woke-ish or sort of wet vicars.
	And I had an argument with one the other day about God giving man dominion.
	Over the world.
	And he said, well, we prefer to translate it these days as stewardship.
	And I said, well, actually, that's a weasel get-out because stewardship is still the same.
	If you made somebody a steward, you wouldn't want him to run down the estate and sort of let it all go wild and let the deer get eaten by wolves or whatever.
	You know, you're in charge of the caboodle.
	And the same way, my sister, Went to a church service.
	Because, weirdly enough, the three original Deling Poles have all, you know, got God at the same time.
	It's weird.
	It's like, you know... Nice!
	Congrats.
	It was meant to be.
	Yeah, it's great.
	And so, Sister goes to church and it's the story about the Gadarene Swine.
	And the vicar feels compelled to tell the congregation that, of course, you know, we don't believe in demons now.
	We just think they're mentally ill.
	And do you think No!
	They're demons!
	They're still demons.
	I'm walking out.
	If I'm in that church, I'm walking out at that moment.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The first time I went to church, the lady stands up, she was like, can we please all have a prayer for people that haven't been vaccinated and just really try and help them?
	And I almost wanted to stand up and be like, oh, can we also pray for people that took the vaccine and got a fucking heart condition?
	Because there's loads of them as well.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, churches have become so Eight churches you walk into, they're not real.
	I've found a church that is good, yeah.
	Oh yeah?
	What kind of church?
	They stick to the word of God, they read the Bible, what the Bible says they follow, even though it's horrendously unpopular these days.
	Most churches, they want to be popular.
	And it's really hard in today's culture, if you believe what Christians believe, the world really will hate you.
	Like, if you believe what Christians believe, it's as easy as I think that men are men.
	Oh, I'm hated.
	I'm hated for saying that men are men and women are women.
	You know, on the comedy circuit, for sure.
	You know, they hate me because... And the Bible says that towards the end, good will be thought of as evil and evil will be thought of as good.
	And I'm here to tell you that we're there.
	Because I'm against eight-year-old boys being turned into eight-year-old girls.
	Right?
	And for that, I'm evil.
	I don't think abortion is a good idea.
	I don't think we should be easily able to kill babies before they're born.
	For that, I'm a horrible person.
	But people who are abortion activists, now they're great people.
	People that are taking eight-year-old boys and confusing them and turning them into girls and chopping them up and giving them the same medication that we give to sex offenders.
	Yeah?
	They're good.
	Right?
	People like me that speak out against it, I'm bad.
	So, when you actually read scripture and you look at all the little check boxes that we need for us to be towards the end, I'm telling you, we're here.
	Like, worse than I ever would imagine.
	No, I'm sure you're absolutely right.
	I mean, look, as you know, quite a few of my podcasts are with people talking about the rulers of the darkness of this world, let's call them.
	And it's very, very clear, you know, whether my guest is a full-on Christian or otherwise.
	whether my guest is a full on Christian or otherwise, they all say that the people who rule the earth are obsessed with Satan.
	You know, even if, like, Even if you don't believe in him, they certainly do.
	And very much, they are in the business of inversion.
	So why do they love having sex with children?
	It's because children are pure and innocent.
	So who's the worst person you can have sex with?
	It's an innocent child.
	And yeah, they overturn all the values.
	So they promote veganism or plant-based food or insect food because Because this stuff is not good for us, and nowhere does the Bible... Well, we're talking about eating locusts and honey.
	I don't... Do you think he was eating... Do you think John the Baptist was eating insects?
	Yeah.
	I think maybe locusts... Sure, I mean... Yeah, I mean, maybe.
	I mean, apparently they give you, like, chitin is really bad for you, and gives you bad... It's gonna kill us all.
	That's why they want us to eat insects.
	Insects!
	Yeah, they do.
	They've got all these kind of nasty diseases in them that you're gonna... That's why... That's why God gave us birds.
	When are people gonna rise up, James?
	When are people going to rise up?
	They're making you eat insects.
	Is it enough?
	Are you ready to rise up now?
	They're stopping people farming and growing their own food and they're making you eat insects.
	You ready now?
	You ready to believe me now?
	You ready to believe that the devil's in charge of this?
	When you said, interesting, when you said that everything, the Antichrist is easy to find because if you know what Christ wants you to do, you can see that the Antichrist is the opposite of Christ.
	It's not like, not quite like Christ or a little bit different, it's the exact opposite.
	So when you read the Bible, you understand what Christ says, you can then see, like you've just pointed out, oh we're doing the exact opposite and then you know who's behind it.
	When you can see the inversion and I think, you know like with serial killers where they want to get caught So they'd be stopped.
	I think this may be a sort of syndrome that the people run in the world.
	They're getting more and more evil, more and more horrendous.
	Perhaps, I think, because they must in their soul somewhere realize that the road they're on, it's going to end so, so badly for them.
	These people that the Bible says the first will be last.
	So these mega rich people that run the world and they have sex with children and they think they're at the top of the world right now.
	Listen, this thing's going to be spun on its head.
	and you're going to be experiencing hell for eternity, my friend.
	Like, you're not winning.
	You think that you are, but you can see behind their eyes.
	These super famous people that clearly worship the devil, they don't look happy.
	You know, even though they've got all this money and all this fame, they look miserable.
	And I think they know on some subconscious level, like, I'm lost here and, you know, it's going to end so badly for them because God is not going to sit still on this forever.
	You know, people think because there hasn't been any punishment for what they've been doing yet, that they're clear, or they're getting away with it, or that God's not coming.
	But the crazy thing is, is these people that run the world, they actually believe in God.
	You know, they don't, they're not like regular people who don't think the devil's real.
	They worship him!
	That's, that's another thing.
	Level of stupidity there.
	I've just remembered about the child sex thing.
	Another whistleblower about the cabal said that the reason that they particularly target children is that they know that this offends God, particularly.
	Yes, that's it.
	They want to wind him up.
	Yeah, that's it.
	They're trying to get... I believe that they're trying to antagonise God perhaps to a level where God will act or will do something.
	But maybe for the reason that they want this to be over because they understand the road that they're on is just...
	You know, I actually am able, the Bible says you should pray for your enemies and I am able to pray for these people.
	I'm able to pray for Hillary Clinton.
	Because even though she's this horrendous individual, the things she's done to the children in Haiti and anyone that knows what's going on there.
	I'm actually able to pray for her because I can in some way envisage the punishment that's coming her way for eternity and it's just so bad.
	It's so, so bad.
	You know, when you actually think of the power that God has, and these people have been deliberately pissing him off for as long as they can.
	Like, why would you ever do that?
	Like, if you know that God's real, the stupidest thing you can do is spit in his face, right?
	But these people have been doing it for, you know, years and years.
	Like, it really boggles the mind when you actually consider why they're doing this.
	If they believe God's real, why would you be doing this?
	Yes.
	But of course, I mean, good is... We need evil.
	Because good would not exist without evil and vice versa.
	We live in a realm of dualities.
	And... I mean, however... We don't need this level of evil though, do we?
	Having sex with children?
	We don't need this level of evil.
	Like, you know, having sex with children.
	We don't need to go there.
	Surely.
	Yeah, I think that it's kind of necessary.
	It's part of the divine plan, which is, you know, it's ordained.
	Everything is ordained.
	I think that, do you sometimes wonder why we were sent here in this time?
	I think we chose to be here, to witness this.
	I mean, I'm sure you're the same.
	The Bible says that God chose you for this time specifically which makes sense if you look at your personality and the way you are James and you're like the one honest journalist in a planet full of scumbags and it's not hard to figure out why God put you in this time.
	But everyone is chosen by God for this time in particular.
	Same with me, yeah!
	And I feel, I feel it.
	I feel a responsibility, like I'm here, I feel like I can see what's going on, I love God, and I feel like, why else would he have put me here at this time but to talk about God and about Jesus?
	And as you can tell, that's pretty much all that I want to do now.
	But just for the benefit of others, really.
	Because the only way out of this is through Jesus.
	The only way.
	And as people see this world get worse and worse, they will come to that realisation eventually.
	God will bring the world to the point where every knee will bow.
	Every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord in the end.
	Because it's going to get so bad that that's what will happen.
	But my advice is don't be around for that.
	No.
	Wake up before that.
	Have you noticed examples of God's sense of humour?
	Because I'm thinking he really does have a sense of humour.
	He goes, who's going to represent me right now?
	I'm going to choose novelty pop stars, right said Fred.
	I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to choose LaTissier.
	Um, because he was a kind of, not one of the obvious ones.
	I'm going to go for LaTissier because he was a maverick and he's, some of his girls are just amazing.
	And you know, um, and I'm going to choose, who else am I going to choose?
	Um, who are the others?
	I'm going to choose the poo lady from TV, Gillian McKeith.
	And I'm going to... Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He just, it's great.
	It's like none of the obvious people that you would have thought would come up and stand up and recount it.
	They never are.
	They never are.
	God is a master of taking crooked sticks and painting straight lines.
	Like Moses was a murderer.
	Like somebody's, the people, the heroes in the Bible King David was a borderline rapist.
	You know, like, some of the heroes and the people think they're cut off from God because they're a sinner or they're a bad person.
	It's like, it doesn't work like that at all.
	Like, it doesn't matter what you've done or who you think you are if you're a bad person.
	It's like, God has a plan for everyone.
	Every single human being, God has a plan for you right now.
	You know, and if you ask God, he'll reveal it to you.
	If more people just went direct and actually for once in their life said, God, if you're real, come into my life, you'd be stunned the amount of people he will respond to that.
	I bet it would be close to 100%.
	What was that about Moses, um, killing... The murderer.
	What did he do?
	He's struck down, uh, it's in the Bible, he's struck down somebody, some Egyptian pissed him off and he killed him.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Then he goes on to be, you know, so the Bible's clear that if you murder someone it's like a pretty big sin, right?
	But God used that guy to be, to be his man to lead the Jews out of captivity.
	And David... So if you look at history, like what's happened... No, sorry, go on.
	The guy who wrote the Psalms, I mean, you mentioned him, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So he bumped off, he had Uriah the Hittite...
	Bumped off because he wanted to shag... Yeah.
	His wife.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, that's King David.
	That's one of God's main, main dudes.
	Right?
	By the way...
	One thing I found really interesting, I'm reading the New Testament in tandem with the Old Testament, because actually the one gets a bit much without the other.
	You kind of need that balance.
	And it's great to see Jesus endorses the Psalms by quoting them.
	So you know that the Psalms are real, that this is the word of the same God that Jesus is the son of.
	Because sometimes one has doubts about the Old Testament because it's pretty weird.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's like really weird actually.
	The book of Isaiah as well.
	Jesus shows up in there.
	I remember reading the book of Isaiah and Isaiah's describing Jesus and I'm like, wait a minute, this is the Old Testament.
	How does he know about Jesus?
	And that's when I realised, oh, the Bible is history pre-written.
	The Bible lays out all the history that will happen before it happens.
	It's this incredible, incredible book that's really unlike anything else you can get your hands on.
	And the more you study it, the more you realize, oh, this is actually the Word of God here.
	Like, this is actually for real.
	Like, this is the only thing that matters.
	If the Bible is the Word of God, it's the only, only thing that matters.
	And that's the position of life that I'm in.
	It's like, once you have that realization, coupled with the fact that the world is going to hell, You know, which is going to be a real eye-opener for people.
	I was listening to your podcast with the Prepper guy.
	What a great podcast.
	And he was listing all the things you need.
	But I was thinking, dude, the number one thing you need is God on your side for this world that we're going to live in.
	You know, it's no good... I would rather have God on my side than all the bottled water and the freeze-dried rice.
	You know what I mean?
	Like, for what's coming, you've got to be down with the big guy.
	Well, for your father knowest what things ye have need of before you ask him.
	It's great.
	All this stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It is good.
	But do you not find...
	I'm down the Christianity rabbit hole with you and I wouldn't be without my Bible reading sessions and stuff.
	Of course, the conversation we're having now would be the most awful, cringe, embarrassing in the world if what we were saying wasn't true.
	But it is true, which seems to me to make it.
	But have you not found that the problem about living in our times now is that so many of the things that you valued in the past and were interesting, so much of the intellectual culture even, so much history, turns out to be bunk.
	I'll give you an example of this.
	I suppose one recent example would be Andrew Wakefield.
	So many of one's opinions are second-hand.
	So many of them are from things that one hasn't examined in any detail, but one has accepted the en-dee, as it were, the Daily Mail version of events.
	Andrew Wakefield, yeah, he denied children the right to get these wonderful vaccines that would cure them.
	No, no, he was a good guy.
	In the same way, I looked into... Have you looked into David Irving?
	Who's that?
	The evil, holocaust-denying historian.
	So I was just like, I'll read up, you know, all I know about him is he's an evil, holocaust-denying historian.
	And I looked up about him.
	So in my days on the Telegraph, I worked with this splendid old buffer called John Keegan, who walked with a stick because I think he'd been crippled by polio or something as a child.
	And he was the main lecturer on military history at Sandhurst and he was a proper stand-up guy.
	I liked him very much.
	He rated David Irving massively as the preeminent historian of the German side in the Second World War.
	David Irving went to Germany to work in a steel factory in order to perfect his German, in order to enable him to read through the German archives and do all his research and, you know, what the German perspective was, you know, Everything from sort of German train timetables and stuff.
	And you read about this stuff and you realise that this is another victim of this cancel culture.
	Just like you were cancelled because you...
	Your comedy did not fit the narrative that they, whoever they are, want about feminism and so on.
	So he did not fit the narrative which they want about the exact progress of the history of the Second World War.
	And so I read the intro that he'd written to his magnum opus on Hitler.
	And he's always presented as an apologist for Hitler.
	But it's not true.
	He says, look, I recognise that Hitler was, he doesn't use this phrase, but Hitler was a piece of shit.
	So he gives examples of how Hitler's sort of evil psychopathic tendencies, you know, like his infamous commando order where he orders all the commanders to be executed and his similar horrible edicts on when a German soldier was killed in Italy, you know, you kill 10 civilians or 100 civilians or whatever.
	He wasn't saying that Hitler was a good guy, he was just offering nuance to what Hitler did and what he didn't do, and what his underlings did and what they didn't do.
	It didn't affect the course of history, it just sort of makes it more accurate.
	And I just realised that so much of what passes for the mainstream... Shut up!
	Siri was just...
	He thought I was talking to him.
	I don't know what word I used.
	So much of everything we know about the world is a lie, and you are rewarded if you endorse the lie, and you are punished if you diverge from the lie.
	And it happens all over the place, whether you're a historian or...
	I mean, if they control the media, right?
	If the media hates you, the world will hate you.
	Because everyone in the world takes their opinion from the media.
	They're not going to meet you and talk to you, etc.
	And I figured out very quickly, if I try and help people, the media hates me.
	Right?
	And that's just a good example of how the world works on a larger scale.
	You know, um, if you actually... I mean, but I can't believe how much I used to swallow it all.
	Like, when 9-11 happened, I was literally sitting at my TV like... I was like, I just think a plane's blown in the building.
	You know?
	I was just like, oh my god, a plane's blown in the building.
	Now I watch the 9-11 videos back, and I'm like, bullshit!
	How did I ever believe this?
	You know?
	I look at the back of it now, with the eyes to see, I'm like, didn't that plane flew into this?
	And then all the floors explode, and then Tower 7 falls down out of sympathy?
	Come on!
	Come on!
	No, they do that.
	They do that.
	Buildings have feelings.
	Gosh.
	And sometimes, sometimes they do that.
	Isn't it crazy though?
	But how much I was brainwashed.
	You don't remember, I mean, no.
	I remember looking at that thing happening live on TV because one had seen the first thing and one became kind of obsessed with it.
	You kept wandering in and out of the room with the TV on.
	I remember when the second plane hit and even at the time it didn't look like a plane hitting a building.
	It looked like a... Did you not find that?
	No, I was so asleep at the time, I was just like, the plane hit the building.
	I'd watched it with my own eyes, you know?
	Uh-oh.
	But, now you look back at it, you have any idea how much of a... The one where they say the plane flew into the Pentagon?
	Do you have any idea how difficult that, that flight... Flying a jumbo jet at 600 miles an hour, whatever, and turning around in the air, and flying into the Pentagon?
	They flew a jet into the Pentagon?
	Like, professional pilots with years of experience are like, I could never do that in a thousand tries.
	And they're telling you that these guys from a cave, or whatever, that were terrible pilots, Took, took two planes and brought down three buildings in New York?
	Come on!
	No, but, no, but, please, Alistair, Alistair, they have, they have no air defences at the Pentagon.
	None at all.
	If, if a slow-moving... They were all on exercise, do you know that?
	...passenger... Every single interceptor the US had was on exercise, just randomly on that day, James.
	What an incredible coincidence!
	Isn't that insane?
	No, it's not.
	It's completely normal.
	Do you know why?
	You're going to so love my podcast that I did this morning with Olly Damagard.
	Nice.
	Assuming that it recorded properly this time.
	I hope so.
	But he says it's always the case.
	That they always have exercises going on when these things happen.
	So, for example, 7-7, you know, Britain's 9-11.
	7-7, yep.
	Exercises.
	I think there were exercises going on when the Manchester Arena bombing thing happened.
	I think that has happened with the Madrid train.
	It's just like it's had a role.
	It's obvious though, isn't it?
	When you know, it's so obvious.
	It's like, oh, they're just blowing us up.
	All the time!
	They're blowing up children in the case of the Manchester.
	You know, it's like these people, there's no bottom, it's a bottomless pit, humanity, off the chain.
	You know, it really is spotless pitch.
	Although, do you know, there's some almost good news.
	Great.
	According to Ole on my previous podcast, the one that was unlistenable because the sound was just like terrible, he said that since 2013, Most of the terrorist incidents that you think are really full of horrible casualties are actually fate.
	They're false flags that they are.
	And the reason for this, he explained, is that the problem is mothers.
	Mothers get really upset when you kill their children and will search the ends of the earth for answers.
	And it's very unhelpful when you've got mothers persisting on saying, no, I'm not satisfied with this inquiry, it's not enough.
	So what they've done is they've found it easier to recruit crisis actors, especially amputees.
	Because, you know, amputees are very useful at, you can just put a bit of pedigree chum on their stump and make it look like...
	Like, you know, they're a fresh... this kind of thing.
	And there are teams of crisis actors that go around the world staging these fake events.
	And he says the reason that he knows... it's got to the position where he can predict where they're going to happen.
	Because if, say, in Copenhagen they are staging a training exercise, he can be pretty sure that they're actually... that's going to be a fake, you know, false flag event.
	Can't you?
	Yeah.
	They're usually down the road from like a Harry Styles concert now or, you know, the location of them is just around the corner from, like you said, training exercise or there's something going on.
	The last one where like Matthew McConaughey was on hand to give a speech in the White House.
	He just happened to be from the hometown where it happened.
	It was like Come on, guys.
	Like, his wife's wearing a pair of Converse that was the victim's Converse or some nonsense, you know, that fit her.
	It's supposed to be from a six-year-old girl.
	She's wearing the shoes.
	It's like, it's so ridiculous now that it's like... But people are still, you know, they're taking it in.
	Like, most people, they'd think we're crazy for even having this conversation.
	Oh, I wanted to ask you, because you're one of the few people that I can have these crazy conversations with, where are you?
	So, I don't know whether you listened to the podcast I did, the second one, with Gerry Marzynski.
	I haven't heard that one yet, no.
	OK.
	So, Gerry Marzynski, it was one of the reasons that I turned to God, because what it made me realise, he talks about demons.
	Long story short, people, paralysed schizophrenics, who hear voices, are in fact hearing demons.
	There are demons.
	They're all around us.
	I used to get plagued by them.
	I used to call them my humanities.
	And the way that you banish the demons is The demons really hate the 23rd psalm.
	They absolutely hate it and it helps get rid of it.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Which is why I say the psalms... Does it make a note of that?
	I've got about seven psalms off by heart and I say them every morning when I'm walking the dog and it just... In the cold shower?
	That's, yeah, that's, um, Psalm 144.
	Um, blessed be the Lord my strength, which teacheth my hands to war and my fingers to fight.
	It's a good one.
	Um... I started copying you.
	I started saying that in a cold shower.
	Have you learned that?
	Have you learned it?
	Yeah, I started saying it in a cold shower because you said that's what you do.
	I'm like, that's a fucking great idea.
	I'm stealing that from Delingpole.
	I'm doing that in a cold shower.
	But have you mastered the psalm?
	Uh, not yet.
	I gave up having cold showers.
	I started doing it and then I saw, like, Wim Hof kept doing it and Russell Brand kept doing it.
	I'm like, maybe this is some deep state bullshit.
	You know, they're getting us all to freeze our arses off.
	It's a trap.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's what I thought!
	So, going back to the demons.
	Demons are real, and a friend of mine, who I can't identify, but a friend of mine, has what he describes as the world's crappiest superpower.
	He can see these entities, and these entities... I don't know whether he can see them all, because I suspect there are rather more demons than... In fact, remind me to ask you about how you know that Satan writes the tunes in heaven, okay?
	We'll come back to that.
	Okay, fine.
	So this friend can see these demons and there are different types.
	He can see two main types and what they do is they're like energy vampires.
	They suck out, they seek out vulnerable people in times... they hang around in pub car parks at closing time.
	They love people who are depressed.
	They feed on their dark energy.
	And you can see them with their sort of tendrils sort of sucking devices that, you know, sucking out your energy.
	Anyway, this was confirmed by Gerry Marzynski, who is a fond of anecdotes about these demons.
	Anyway, on the second podcast I did with him, he introduced me to one of his patients, or an acquaintance anyway, who'd been plagued by demons and eventually had got rid of them with the help of things like the 23rd Psalm.
	And, um, what was the thing he told me, you know, I've now completely forgotten the point of this anecdote, which is really annoying.
	- No one will notice.
	No one will notice.
	Change tact. - Thank goodness no one will notice.
	Maybe, maybe some demons just sucked my, um, what was the thing I was going to say about the demons?
	No doubt.
	While I'm thinking about it, can you tell me how you know about Satan was the Where's that written?
	I start, I don't think it's, I don't think it's, uh, scriptural.
	But, uh, there are several, I mean, I don't think it's in the actual Bible, but there are several books that are not from the Bible.
	The Book of Enoch is a good example.
	Yeah?
	Which are not, they're not canon, if you like.
	They're, sort of, they're not in the Bible, but they explain, like, a lot of the stuff that is not in the Bible, like, why Satan Uh, Satan's fall from heaven is not, is not described really in the Bible, like, when it happens or why it happens.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Jesus said that he saw Satan cast out of, uh, heaven down to earth like lightning.
	That's why a lot of celebrities will have, like, lightning on their tie, or that lightning.
	ACDC, they've got the two lightning bolts.
	ACDC, by the way, stands for, uh, Antichrist, Devil's Children.
	And if you watch their concerts, like, everyone's got Devil horns and they're all doing this like it's and they got a song about a serial killer It's like a pro serial killer song, it's called Night Prowler.
	It's about, like, I'm coming to kill you, and I get you, and it's all like pro Satan.
	Are they still alive, ACDC?
	ACDC?
	I'm not sure.
	Well, the lead singer dies, and then he gets replaced by someone else who sounds exactly fucking like him, by the way.
	And I used to love ACDC.
	I used to love their music.
	It's great music.
	Did you make The Devil's Thornfrost?
	Sorry?
	Did you make the Devil's Horn sign at their concert?
	Maybe I would have done, yeah!
	Before I even thought about it.
	Maybe I would have been like, oh this is so cool!
	It's all like, you know, I'm...
	Anti... you know, whatever it is, it was all so cool, but now that I understand scripture, I know that God's real, and now I go back and visit their music, and I'm like, literally, ACDC, like, every other song is about hell.
	Or the devil.
	Or, you know, versions of it.
	Like, literally, every other song.
	Like, they started one of their tours by ringing a giant bell.
	The song's called Hell's Bells.
	You know, and then you can watch their concerts on YouTube.
	Everyone's got, like, glowing devil's horns.
	You know, and they're so like this and that.
	It's everywhere all over their music.
	Their official story is that they saw ACDC on the back of a vacuum cleaner.
	And that's why they're called ACDC.
	It's like, sure.
	Sure, guys.
	And so much of music... I'm sorry, I'm going to answer your question.
	I started watching these videos about books of the Bible that aren't canon, and there's a channel called A Call for an Uprising.
	He talks about it a lot, and he explains several times that Satan was in charge of music in heaven.
	Someone else said it to me recently, so it's kind of third-hand that I've got this information.
	Nothing to do with the Bible, but... Because I'm quite interested in that, and actually this relates to the Jeremy Malzinski thing.
	Jeremy Malzinski said that a mystic, I think in the 17th century, wrote a demonology identifying all the different And I know that people who are really experts in this stuff can name the different orders of angels, you know, and Cherubim and Seraphim and so on.
	And I'm quite interested to know where all this comes from.
	I mean, I'm sure it's real.
	I'm sure that angels are real.
	And I'm sure there is some kind of heavenly hierarchy.
	But I don't know where you get this information.
	There is.
	There is.
	There's a line in Genesis that most people skip, right?
	But it's very, very important.
	It's like, when Eve eats the apple, right, and sin is brought into the world, and God is saying to the serpent, like, you little bastard, or whatever, right?
	And he says to the serpent, because you've done this, you'll be crawling on your belly for the rest of your days, whatever.
	And he says, I will create enmity between your seed and her seed.
	Talking about Eve, okay?
	Most people just lock in on the fact that they're saying he's going to create enmity between the children of Eve, right?
	But there's two seeds.
	There's your seed and her seed.
	So the devil has seed.
	Like, do you see what is being said here?
	Like, the devil has offspring.
	There's a line coming from the devil that will war for alternative with the line that's coming from Eve.
	And these characters in the Bible called Nephilim, which are basically giants, they're the offspring of angels and human women, Um, and that's back from the times of Noah, and there's a lot of, you can do, you can go down a huge rabbit hole here about the whole Gulf War, may have been about the corpse of one of these Nephilim that may come back as the Antichrist, but, um... Oh, I like that sound of that rabbit hole.
	Oh, Nimrod, the guy's name is, right?
	If you research... Yeah, Nimrod's name was horrible.
	Nimrod, who is also, uh... Tower of Babel.
	Hollow.
	Yeah.
	The Tower of Babel, which is in the Commonwealth Games Opening Ceremony, just happened, believe it or not.
	I did a video on that.
	The commentator actually says, oh, here comes the Tower of Babel!
	I mean the Tower of Birmingham!
	And then they get a giant, satanic bull and literally worship it in the centre of the stadium.
	It's so demonic, it's not even... It was extraordinary.
	Isn't it?
	It's so in your face.
	I had a couple of guys come up to me at my church, actually, because even amongst Christians, I'm thought of as a nutcase.
	But a couple of people actually come up to me in church, old guys, and they were like, I saw your video about the Commonwealth Games, and I watched it, and you were right!
	They're talking about the Tower of Babel!
	And they've got Baal, this demon bull, and they're worshipping it!
	I'm like, I'm fucking told you guys!
	Like, I ain't that crazy!
	Like, stuff's there for you to see!
	Have you seen...
	The opening of that tunnel in Switzerland, the ceremony of that.
	Oh, Gothard Tunnel.
	Yeah.
	I don't advise people to watch it, because it's disgusting.
	It's horrible.
	It's horrible, yeah.
	There are horns, and they've got goat trousers, and they're saying to you it's art.
	Yeah!
	Oh, it's art!
	You're opening a tunnel, you fuckhead!
	And you expect me to believe that you're dancing around in goat pants?
	And it's relevant?
	What are you talking about?
	You're supposed to be digging a tunnel!
	And you're out here with, like, goat pants and deer antlers and writhing around in, like, satanic ways?
	And you want me to fucking believe that the, uh, Olympics in London, opening ceremony.
	It's the coronavirus.
	They've got the doctors and nurses, like, doing, like, the zombie dance.
	Yeah?
	The whole thing is played out for you there.
	Like, that's how planned this whole thing was.
	They've got Boris Johnson rising out of a hospital bed.
	Like, no shit.
	They've got an Asian lady and Russell Brand playing the child catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
	It's crazy how much they telegraph these things.
	Because they think you're all stupid.
	I think you're so stupid.
	So, how do you reckon it worked, that Olympic ceremony?
	I mean, like, Danny Boyle.
	Okay.
	So, is Danny Boyle just a kind of paid-up agent of Satan, or what?
	What's the deal?
	Maybe.
	I mean, what they're... Remember they're playing the music from the fucking Exorcist, James?
	They're playing the music from The Exorcist and it's supposed to be an ode to the NHS and you're playing The Exorcist music and there's a giant, literally a giant 20 foot high demon with a magic wand in the centre of the stadium and they're playing the music from The Exorcist and it's like...
	Honestly, how demonic does it need to be for people to realise?
	And all these plebs in the stadium are just like... Come on!
	Come on!
	There's a Travis Scott concert last year where people actually died.
	They like, they crushed them to death on purpose, obviously.
	Okay?
	This guy is a huge Satan guy, this Travis Scott, and...
	You can listen to testimonies from people who were there who were like, there was this horrible dark energy and they knew it was going on and they just kept having people die.
	It's like they're even sacrificing people at these events now.
	Like, it's wild what they're doing right in front of your face.
	Right?
	And so for people that don't believe in the devil, it's like, they're showing you that he's real, guys.
	Part of the way the universe works, you have free will, right?
	God gave you free will.
	So in order for them to do horrible things to you, they have to show you what they're doing to you, and you have to consent.
	That's the point of these opening ceremonies, these rituals.
	It's like, well, we're showing them that we're We worship the devil, we've got a giant Baal statue, we're falling down and worshipping it, you know, and the commentators talking about fallen stars and fallen angels, and they really are showing you, and one final thing, the world is going to come to a point where it's so evil, That not to stand up against it is going to be a grievous sin.
	Like, you can't just sit this one out, man, and just put your head in the sand and, I'm not doing anything wrong.
	The world is going to be so disgusting towards the end that anyone that doesn't take our position, which is, this is disgusting, I want no part of it, is going to be guilty just by, you know, association, basically.
	I've suddenly remembered the thing, the purpose of that story about the Jerry Malzinski, which was, okay, so this guy had been seriously possessed by demons, and the demons said to him, they offered him The Faustian Pact.
	They said to him, if you do what we want, we will give you massive success and fame, success, whatever.
	And he realised that he was being given a choice.
	I personally believe there is no question that had he said yes, he would have achieved extraordinary worldly success.
	In the same way, Bob Dylan has admitted in an interview that he made the deal with the devil and there was a tinge of regret in that.
	It seems that part of the deal is, look at Mick Jagger, you've got to go on doing this shit for the rest of your life, you've got to, there's no, or maybe you can fake your death like David Bowie probably did, but that's the only, otherwise you're in it for the, to the bitter end.
	Never thought of that, yeah.
	And, but, you see, you can look at this metaphorically, you could say okay, well, The music industry is evil, and the controllers make sure that your career will thrive if you make nods to Satan or whatever.
	Or, you could take it literally.
	You could say that these people do literally make a pact with the devil, and the devil rewards his own.
	Now, I incline to the latter.
	Where are you on that one?
	Same.
	Like, there's too many examples.
	Katy Perry's another one.
	She's on record, she was a Christian, she was a God-fearing woman.
	She actually says, like, the interview's chilling, if you can find it, she says, I saw, I wanted to be good, but it didn't work out, so I sold my soul to the devil, and now here I am.
	Like, so I believe that, yeah, you can literally, like, you can get in touch with these beings, like, they're out there, like,
	Um, when I first, before I believed in God, I was under incredible spiritual attack and I didn't realize, like, my hair all started falling out, like, you know, I got really ill, like, everything was going wrong in my life and I couldn't understand what it was and what's going on and then I found this video by a Catholic priest about spiritual warfare.
	And he opened my eyes that, listen, you're in spiritual warfare just by trying to do good, like the devil and his demons are trying to destroy your life.
	And that's another thing that set me on the road to Christianity.
	The only way to keep yourself free from these things is to have Christ in you.
	There's a guy in the Bible that Christ drives a demon out of him.
	And then the guy just goes back to his old and then seven demons come in and fill him and he's in a worse position than where he was.
	It's not good enough just to have the demons out of you.
	You have to have Christ inside you.
	What a lot of people don't realize is that God is in charge of all these demons and they can't do anything to you that God does not okay.
	And the purpose of these demons is for you to overcome them And therefore become more holy from your overcoming of them.
	The reason they're allowed to mess with you is so that you can overcome them and through your overcoming of them, become more holy.
	Like, because my life was being so ruined by these things, I had no choice.
	I was just reading the Bible solidly every day.
	Because my life was being ruined and I didn't understand why and the only place I could find peace is in the scripture.
	And I'm so pleased for it!
	Like all the suffering I've been through, I wouldn't change any of it.
	People have this perception that suffering is bad for you.
	It's not!
	If you suffer and you come through it and you overcome it, you become Such an upgraded version of yourself.
	Like a lot of people that when they find God, it's not peaches and cream and everything in your life becomes great.
	Often it's the opposite.
	When I found God, like my life started just, just lightning kept striking my life in all these places, you know.
	It didn't instantly get better, but just God gave me the strength To overcome, you know, all this adversity.
	And now, you know, I'm in a much better position.
	My life is full now.
	I've got a wonderful family.
	And, you know, I'm so much happier now than I was.
	You know, so... Yeah, but you're a white warhead.
	It has come good.
	Oh yeah, yeah, that too.
	That too.
	Yeah, let's not forget that.
	But, no, demonic oppression, it is real.
	Like, these entities are down here.
	But it is important to remember that God and Jesus bosses these people around.
	This exorcist was saying the movies are a lie.
	This exorcist, the Catholic priest was an exorcist, and he was saying, if you watch the movies, when the exorcist comes in, he's scared of, like, the demon.
	He said, that's not true.
	He said, the opposite's true.
	He said, when an exorcist comes into the room, the demon's scared.
	He said, and not because of me, he says, because of the 300-pound gorilla standing behind me, which is Jesus Christ.
	Like, when the exorcist starts invoking the name of Jesus, the demons are terrified, because the Jesus will slap the shit out of these guys, you know?
	You see, there's another rabbit hole.
	You know Malachi Martin?
	Malachi Martin wrote lots of books about casting out demons and stuff.
	Really terrifying, terrifying shit.
	I am writing a book about God at the moment.
	I've done one on the churches and my mixed feelings about the different characteristics of the churches.
	I think they've all got their strengths and they've got their weaknesses.
	And you can't look into the Catholic Church without realising that it has been very, very heavily infiltrated, as they all have, by the forces of darkness.
	And when you discover that even John Paul II, the guy who we thought was, you know, I've seen photographs of him doing this, he was a rongan absolutely through and through.
	But Malachi Martin, I think, was possibly Possibly one of the wrong ones as well.
	It's just like, it is another rabbit hole.
	In fact, I was really upset recently.
	One of my journalistic heroes, I think he was the greatest journalist of his generation, was Christopher Booker.
	Because Christopher Booker was a bit like me.
	He just, I mean, he wrote much better than me and he did his research much better.
	But he had that same sort of slight sort of contramundum Spirit.
	And later on he discovered God and it became his watchword at the end of his life.
	He was regular at church and all that.
	But I was reading his collection of essays on the 1970s and There's one scene where he describes a visit to England by John Paul II, and he's just full of admiration and wonder and celebrating this man of God.
	And I was thinking, you know, Booker, you were right about so many things, but Karol Wojtyla, he was a wrong'un.
	Absolutely wrong'un, through and through.
	One of the things that opened my eyes most to the world is the Pope's audience hall and the statue that he sits in front of.
	The snake!
	Oh my God.
	Dude, it's the most satanic statue you've ever seen in your life.
	He sits in front of it.
	And the whole chamber is, yeah, giant reptile.
	Yeah!
	Giant reptile.
	Clearly, isn't it?
	There's no denying it.
	He's sitting in a giant snake reptile with a statue of hell behind it.
	And you don't want me to think that he worships the devil.
	If he had the red pitchfork and a little pointy tail, it couldn't be more obvious.
	The Pope actually could sit there in the red Halloween costume, and I'd be like, that's less obvious than what you currently are doing.
	Like, it's insane!
	And when I saw that, I was just like, I didn't even really believe in God that much at the time, but I was just like...
	Okay.
	I might not believe in God, but the Pope believes in the devil.
	So, you know, let me investigate more.
	And it's actually been done this way.
	Like, symbolism will be their downfall.
	They're putting all their 666's everywhere now.
	But what does that tell you?
	The fact that they put 666 everywhere.
	What does it tell you?
	It tells you that scripture is true.
	The 666 comes from the Bible.
	When these fools Put 666 on all their logos, and WEF and CERN and everything.
	They're telling you that they reference scripture, that it's true.
	You know?
	In their worshipping of the devil, you can see Christ.
	That's where they come in undone.
	They're too cocky.
	I used to be a fan of, briefly, before I knew about him, Max Verstappen.
	The Formula One driver.
	And the reason I was a fan was basically he did not put on a dress on the cover of GQ like, what's-her-name did, the English driver, what's-his-name, Lewis Hamilton.
	So I thought, I like Verstappen because he was the anti-Hamilton.
	He was the Formula 1 champion last year, Verstappen.
	And guess what his car number is?
	His racing number on his car.
	Is it 666 you're going to tell me?
	No, it's the other one.
	Which other one?
	Thirty-two?
	Thirty-three.
	Which other one?
	Thirty-three!
	Oh, God.
	Oh, thirty-three.
	Russell Brand's got this thirty-three tattoo, and he's insisting that it's... he loves Jesus so much.
	That he's got a... and that's the age Jesus was when he died.
	It's like, okay, Russell, sure.
	Sure, sure.
	Yeah, you love Jesus so much, right.
	In the same video, he goes on to describe how sex is like a divine energy.
	It's like, oh, you sound like such a Christian.
	I'm really sold.
	That's another whole rabbit hole, the 33s and all that crap.
	I know!
	Well, I actually, I've got to the stage where I will not use the, the number, in my local gym, the number 33 locker is always available and I never use it because I just don't like using number 33 locker.
	The numbers are of huge significance to God.
	There's a whole book in the Bible called Numbers, which should give you an idea of how much, you know, they really are of significance.
	And 666 is actually the number of man.
	But there's something to do with our scientific makeup that there's six of these, six of these, and six of these protons and neutrons or something.
	So it's actually of relevance, like the number 666.
	You know, the important thing is not to stare too long at what the devil's up to.
	That's kind of what he wants.
	You know, he was like... and he wants you to focus on him, so that if you're focusing on him, you're not actually looking at Jesus, which is where you want to be.
	That's what's important.
	What the devil's up to is he's going to be up to all these disgusting, horrible, gross things.
	It's actually a form of spiritual attack that we're all under.
	For example, if you're a good Catholic, the horrible things that are going on in the Catholic Church is an attack on you.
	Even though you're not doing these sins, you're not taking part in them, but the Catholic Church that you're under is so foul that it rubs off on you almost by kind of osmosis.
	You know, we live in this disgusting, sin-filled world now that that's part of the attack that we're all under.
	You can't, you know, dive into it too much and get into the whole Freemasonry which at its heart, by the way, they're worshipping a demon.
	I don't know if they all realise that or not.
	But the Freemasons at the bottom certainly don't realise that.
	See, that's another thing that I learned in my...
	various researches that Lucifer and Satan are very different characters.
	And as I understood it, the characterization, one of them is the kind of the sort of demon of technocracy as it were of sort of, I mean, have you read C.S. I mean, have you read C.S. Lewis's "That Hideous Strength"? - I haven't.
	That ultimately the Luciferian project, which is the project of Freemasonry, which is the project of the New World Order, is to replace God on Earth.
	Yeah.
	Which is why the technocrats are so into this sort of transhumanism and stuff.
	And of course, actually it goes back to that dichotomy that you described.
	There's food and then there's processed food.
	Processed food is satanic.
	Food is the work of God.
	In the same way, the pharmaceutical industry is a sort of satanic version of herbalism and stuff.
	All the cures are already there in nature.
	Of course!
	Everything that heals you is already on the earth.
	These drug companies are not doing anything other than taking what's in the earth and combining it in different ways.
	It's all from the earth.
	Everything that's good is here, has been created.
	You can almost name any industry.
	And it's kind of a, like Lucifer as an angel is a false light that he'll bring.
	There's a saviour that's coming.
	I believe this is coming after the rapture but there is a figure that's going to come and fix all these world's problems.
	All the stuff we're talking about, the saviours, that's the person to watch out for.
	It's the person that's going to come and save everything and create false miracles and everyone will think that this guy is Jesus but it's going to be a false Yes.
	But that's what people need to prepare themselves for.
	That's what I'm waiting for, basically.
	But I'm just hoping that the rapture is going to take place.
	And I believe scripturally, this backs me up, that the rapture will take place before the sky gets here.
	But anyone that doesn't believe in Jesus, if Jesus turns up on the earth and he seems a bit fishy, it's not Jesus.
	Jesus said his return will be like, um, you can't miss it, basically.
	When Jesus shows up, it's gonna be, no, there's gonna be no doubt whatsoever.
	So if anyone comes in and is like, listen, I'm Jesus, and I'm gonna show you that I'm Jesus, nah-ah-ah.
	Nah-ah-ah.
	Don't fall for that guy.
	That's the Antichrist.
	Right.
	I'm being, I'm being, the dog is asking me for its, its dinner, so I, one more thing.
	Um, first of all I need to pee and a cup of tea as well.
	Sure.
	Um, which, which is?
	Same.
	Um, when did you go, When did you realise that Darwin was another satanic scam funded by the Rothschilds?
	It's ridiculous.
	Like, if you think about the idea that, right, everything, evolution, everything happens randomly, and this incredible world is being created, right?
	It's bullshit.
	Try and create anything randomly.
	Throw bricks randomly over your head and stuff, and let me know when you wake up into Taj Mahal.
	You know?
	You can't build anything randomly.
	Exactly!
	That's my joke on that one.
	You know, it's clearly bullshit.
	Like, the idea that you used to be a tadpole, and then you're a chicken, and now you're a hu- Shut up!
	Shut up!
	And it all happens over billions of years.
	Isn't that convenient?
	You know what I mean?
	So there's no way of ever proving it.
	And, yeah, when you find out the guy's a Satanist, it's pretty clear.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Not Solomon in all his glory was arrayed like one of these, you know, the lilies.
	You're right.
	You look at creation, and it is obviously creation.
	It's not random accidents of stuff.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Um, actually, I have got to ask one more thing.
	How do you survive financially?
	What do you mean?
	Well, work-wise, I do live streams on Rumble most nights.
	It's kind of like a, you know, just talking about what's going on in the world.
	People send me money.
	Yeah, it works fine.
	People send like a super chat, so they pay money to ask me a question or whatever, but it's all voluntary.
	People can just send me money if they want.
	I have a Subscribestar account, people can send me money if they want.
	Like the Bible says, the Lord provides.
	The Bible says to do what God wants you to do and don't worry about it.
	He'll take care of you, like He takes care of the flowers and the bees and everything else.
	And that's proved true in my life as well.
	I just try and do what I believe God wants me to do and Yeah, everything just kind of works out, you know?
	Not that it's easy.
	I finally worked out the other day, a relevant section of the Bible, of Matthew 6, what sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof means.
	Do you know what it means?
	No, go on.
	Well, it just means there's enough shit to worry about today without having to worry about what's going to happen tomorrow.
	Yeah, don't worry about the troubles of tomorrow, you're gonna have enough troubles today.
	Yeah, I love that one.
	That's another great one.
	It's another great one.
	It doesn't miss the Bible.
	There's so much cool stuff in it.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Absolutely.
	Same, same, same.
	Yeah.
	Same, same, same.
	Oh, I've so enjoyed.
	Thank you so much.
	It's been really good fun.
	Wonderful, thank you so much.
	I've absolutely loved this.
	And, well, I hope, look, I hope that...
	You should do a festival or something.
	You know, I mean, you should.
	I'd love to.
	What I need to get is an agent.
	I need an agent or a manager, but I'm looking for someone awake, like who necessarily has no experience.
	I don't have to have any experience in comedy or anything.
	I'm just looking for an awake person that will, you know, with any sort of skill or application for that sort of thing.
	So if that might be you, get in touch with me.
	I'd love for you to be my agent or my manager, whoever's listening.
	I figured, like, your audience probably.
	It's definitely not me.
	I've got the awake part.
	But when it comes to organization.
	I wasn't thinking of you, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	Fine, fine.
	No, yeah.
	That's good.
	How to completely ruin your career, get James Dunningpole to be your manager.
	That would be just like... Yeah.
	Be fun, though.
	What a way to go.
	Be fun!
	And style.
	Or not.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Well, you're going to make lots of people very happy.
	So just say again where people can see your stuff and all that.
	My Rumble channel, which is the alternative to YouTube.
	I'm Alistair Williams.
	A-L-I-S-T-A-I-R.
	Williams on Rumble.
	If you find me there, that's the best place to check out all my latest content, basically.
	And that's it.
	There's nowhere else.
	That's it.
	You're not allowed anywhere else.
	You've been banned.
	Nowhere else.
	I'm on YouTube, so that's it.
	Good.
	And when you stop giving money and support to Alistair, remember, remember me.
	Me, James, your friend.
	You can find me on Locals, on Subscribestar, on Substack and Patreon.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I really appreciate it.
	Thank you very much.
	Good.
	Bye bye.

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