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May 22, 2022 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Allison Royal
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Welcome to That's Deli Pod.
And I know I always say I'm excited about this quick special guest, but I really am.
I'm looking forward to finding out more about my special guest, Alison Royal.
Alison, welcome to The Delling Pod.
Thank you for having me.
It's wonderful to meet you.
Well, now, Alison, I've seen from Twitter that you describe yourself as a former TV journalist who's now gone independent.
I was wondering whether, a bit like me, you're a kind of ex-normie who got mugged by reality.
Is that a fair description?
I would say, though, I would say that some of my innocence was stolen from me.
I think a lot of people, they see Whatever it is that they want to do with rose-colored glasses, like imagine going to medical school for a long time and wanting to be a doctor and you put in all this work and then you finally are done and you get into the position and it's different than you thought it was going to be.
That's how I describe it.
Yeah, yeah.
That is a brilliant analogy because I've looked at the medical profession in the last two years And thought, hang on a second, you guys were the people I trusted to know how to save my life and look after my health.
And that's what the culture taught me.
That's what I was brought up.
You know, when we had a family doctor or, you know, if anything went wrong, you ring up the family doctor and the family doctor looks after you and he knows your name and he knows the family.
He's been round to your house and stuff like this.
And now we live in this world where These doctors are encouraging people to take an alleged vaccine, which they clearly know nothing about, because if they did, they would be saying to their patients, don't touch this fucking thing with a barge pole, or you might die, or you might get myocarditis, and it's experimental anyway, and there's no liability if you get injured.
And instead they're going, no, you must take the jab, you must.
What's going on?
What do I think is going on?
I think it's about compliance, it's not about science.
Because if this was about science and stopping transmission and keeping people healthy, kind of like you alluded to, we know at this point the vaccine doesn't do that.
We know that it gives people side effects and numerous other problems.
I mean, I haven't gotten it and I'm okay so far, knock on wood, but I had people I worked with who are triple vaccinated who have the booster, and they're still getting it.
And you see this template online of people saying, you know, I've just been diagnosed with COVID.
Symptoms are mild, but things would be so much worse if I wasn't triple vaccinated.
Grateful to be vaccinated and boosted.
And it's a little cringeworthy because you see it over and over again.
And it's these young, healthy people who are writing a post like they've just been diagnosed with stage four cancer, but they just are dying for attention.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but what I think is going on, I think it's all about, you know, I think they really want people to get this supposed vaccine.
They're really pushing it.
And any journalistic instinct that I have in me is to question everything, to look into everything and to hold these pharmaceutical companies accountable.
But we're not allowed to do that.
We just have to blindly trust them.
And not give them the sort of vetting that we would for anybody else.
And it makes no sense to any kind of common sense person.
You don't need to be a journalist to know that something odd is going on.
Yeah.
Alison, I totally love you already, and I can see this is going to be just an awesome conversation because we're totally on the same page.
But I want you to tell me a bit more about your background.
I mean, OK, so you're in L.A.
right now, but you're from San Diego, aren't you?
Kind of the other way around actually.
So what happened was I lost my job in San Diego and I knew I had advanced notice contrary to a rumor that was started.
I had about a month's notice because my company announced a vaccine mandate in September of last year and they said it would kick in in the middle of November.
And I applied for an exemption not knowing what would happen, but then in mid-October, I remember it was two days before my birthday, they said, we're not going to be giving any exemptions to reporters.
So you either need to get the shot ASAP or, you know, you have to leave between now and November 12th.
And I said, okay, November 12th will have to be my last day then.
But anyway, so I knew I couldn't afford to live in San Diego anymore, even though the UK is kind of expensive, too.
I was over there pretty recently and it's expensive.
Everywhere is expensive.
But anyway, I knew I couldn't afford to stay there.
You know, like in an apartment that was small, but it was close to the beach and I can't afford to stay here.
So what am I going to do?
And then obviously no one wants to rent an apartment to somebody who is about to lose their job.
So I was like, all right, well, I guess I'm just going to kind of like pack up my car and see where the wind takes me.
So I've been nomadic for gosh, I guess it's almost six months now.
I've been nomadic and I've just gone wherever.
I've been all over the world and I've just, you know.
Wherever.
It's been cheaper than living in San Diego, actually, with gas prices there and the cost of living there.
But I've been all over the country.
I went to the UK and got to see some people that I haven't gotten to see in a long time, like I got to see a friend from college who lives in London.
That's kind of where I learned about you, actually.
And so it's been a cool experience.
I've been all around the world and I've got to meet a lot of different kind of people.
And it's interesting because depending on where you go, reality is very different in terms of COVID and perception and like How much they've decided to move on with their lives.
Like, some places are still wearing masks.
Some places still require proof of vaccination just to go places.
And then other places, for over a year, life's been completely back to normal.
And it's as if nothing happened.
And it's weird to, like, go from one state or one country or one county to another.
And reality is different.
This manufactured reality is different.
Gosh, you've raised so many different things, I want to ask you about that.
Okay, first of all, which is the most don't-give-a-shit about, you know, which place you've been to has got over it most?
Okay, in the U.S., I would say South Dakota.
I used to live there, actually, and I used to report there, and so I have a soft spot for it, but that was the only state where the governor there, Governor Kristi Noem, she said, Um, we are not about or hopefully we'll get herd immunity, but we're not going to do herd mentality.
We're not going to close.
So that was a state that never had a statewide stay at home order.
You know, people were to an extent life was always normal there.
Um, maybe some counties and cities to things a little differently, but life never changed there.
I mean, they still have this giant motorcycle rally of tens of thousands of people.
And then I would say, I don't know.
I went to Denmark.
And no one wore a mask.
No one ever asked me if I was vaccinated.
No one ever even brought it up.
I didn't see advertisements for it.
Sweden, too, seemed pretty chill about stuff.
Scandinavia.
And then in Europe, I don't know.
France is pretty intense, right?
Like, isn't Macron pretty into people being vaccinated?
Yeah, yeah.
He's a Jap Nazi.
Oh, you probably, you have to have a test just to, I don't know if they still have this, but I think like in certain places, just to have a layover there, you have to be vaccinated just to like touch down there for two hours.
Amsterdam, I think is like that.
Actually, I think, well, I know Amsterdam dropped their restrictions, but that, that's my two cents on it.
I don't know.
What's it been like for you and your perception of things?
And I don't know how Boris Johnson has been.
Well, I mean, I've been, Throughout the alleged crisis, which isn't a crisis at all, it's completely manufactured, I've been doing my damnedest to ignore every restriction put on us by the government.
So I've been a fairly militant anti-masker.
So, you know, right at the beginning, when everyone was wearing masks to go to the supermarket, I would post pictures of myself without a mask and people on the wrong side of the argument would say how irresponsible and what a show-off idiot I was being, and people on my side would go, yeah.
Exactly.
So there's that.
And I too have been on a mission to I think one of the things that they want to stop us doing is traveling.
I mean, it's part of the plan, the clamp down on freedoms.
So I've made it my mission to try and go to places where the restrictions are less onerous.
So last year I went to Croatia, which was great.
They were very relaxed and nobody was wearing, well, not nobody.
I mean, I think theoretically you had to wear masks in the shops, but But I didn't even then and I thought if anyone asked I'd just say no speaker Croatian.
Yeah.
You know that would have worked.
You know I think being a mad Englishman sort of helps sometimes.
And I went to Costa Rica.
There was a period where pretty much the only places in the world you could go unvaccinated were Costa Rica and Mexico.
And Mexico had already kind of got mega expensive, you know, everyone was going to Mexico.
I mean, inevitably, if you shut down all the world's holiday destinations, and there's only one that is sensible, everyone's going to go there.
So the prices shot up.
So I went to Costa Rica instead, and Costa Rica was Pretty good, except that the Costa Rican people are absolutely delightful.
I mean, really generous and sweet, but they're also, they're so compliant.
And their president is basically, like so many presidents, a World Economic Forum stooge.
And so the mask regulations were quite strict, to the point where there was this ridiculous incident where we went to Just about the most remote game reserve, whatever they're called, nature reserve in Costa Rica, which is a country famous for its nature reserve.
So we went to this called Corcovado.
It's in the south, the southwest of the country on the Pacific coast.
And You get there by a sort of two hour boat journey and you land on the beach in the surf and the surface really is really, really rough and it's all quite hairy.
You land on the beach and you get there and there is a little kind of gateway or the sort of, you know, a passage you have to go through and they insist you put on a mask.
Having, you know, in the open air and they won't let you into the park unless you wear a mask.
You have to put on the mask and then when you pass them, you don't have to wear a mask anymore.
It's mask theatre.
So that was a very long answer to a short question.
But I want to go back to your, first of all, your TV company that you work for.
What was it?
Was it Fox?
What are they called?
So I worked for Tegna, which is the company that owned my station.
I worked for a CBS News affiliate though.
So the CBS News affiliate in San Diego, which is owned by Tegna, which owns stations all over the country.
I don't know how long Tegna will be around for because I've heard rumors of it being bought out, but I don't keep up with that aspect and I was never involved in the financial side of things.
I was always just involved in the news side.
But okay, I mean CBS alarm bells ring there anyway, but you would have thought, wouldn't you?
I mean, were you a really bad reporter?
I can't imagine that.
I like to think that I wasn't.
No, I think if anything I had a lot of enthusiasm because this was my dream job for a long time.
I didn't care about being on TV in a vain sense, but I love video storytelling.
I love going and getting my own video and I love when I get great sound and I get to weave it all together.
So I like to think that I did my job and I did my due diligence, but the issue was the journalistic principles that I felt very strongly about and have been instilled in me for several years, I feel like directly violate how, not just my station, but really how every station has gone about this pandemic.
A lot of people have the illusion that, you know, there are all these different news stations, there are all these different options, but I like to, and before I left my job, I would explain it this way, by the way, I guess my job left me, to be fair.
But I don't like going to a grocery store when you think you have all these different news stations.
When you walk into a grocery store, you see thousands and thousands upon products, right?
You think there are all these different brands.
It's really only like seven, eight brands who own everything in the grocery store.
Yeah, and Black Rock owns all of those.
Exactly, like Blackrock and Vanguard are the Nestle of the, of really, I not only wanted to say the TV world because it's everything, but Blackrock and Vanguard even own the tiniest of stations all over the country.
And so I would talk to people who live in, you know, small town Missouri, and they are unaware of the fact that the same people who own Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson also own that little station that they might think is in Uh, a more traditional area of the country and that's influencing your coverage.
You can have opinions, but if it influences the product that you put on air, then what are, you're not a journalist.
Um, but it was very clear, especially from early 2020, 2020, or sorry, 2020, things were clear, but by 2021, I was like, something shady is going on here.
We're completely owned by pharmaceutical companies and we're pushing it so hard.
In my stories, I would say, if you get the vaccine, and they would change it to when you get the vaccine.
Like, someone would go in and edit it.
I honestly think it was a subconscious bias to a degree.
Like, part of me thinks it was this mischievous thing, but I think that after for so long having it hammered into us, I wouldn't be surprised if some producer, without thinking about it, just changed it to when, like, a reflex.
Because it's so ingrained into us.
You see people, like you talked about at the grocery store, it doesn't take that long to train someone robotically to put on a mask.
And I was required to wear masks, you know, and I did it for two fucking years even though I knew I didn't do anything.
It's hard when you know deep down things don't work and you still have to do it.
And it's like, how long am I going to go on with this charade for?
Because yeah, wearing a mask doesn't hurt anybody.
And I have to comply with the state standards and OSHA standards that I have to for work.
I don't think you guys have OSHA over in the UK, but it's just like work safety standards that the government sets.
Oh, we have similar.
Everywhere has similar.
Okay, I know that they do, but I just didn't know the name of it over where you are.
It's just designed to stop, to remove any kind of freedoms you might have, any room for manoeuvre.
That's what they want to do.
Yeah, I think that's what it is now.
I mean, before it's like, wear a seatbelt, and now it's like, don't breathe or speak freely.
Or drive a car.
Exactly, like things have changed in a huge regard.
Uh, so anyway, I, then it's like, okay, but what am I giving oxygen to certain ideas just by standing with an organization that promotes these things?
Um, they would have, and like when my work found out that I wasn't vaccinated, things changed so quickly.
And like my perception, the treatment I mean by management was so different because no one had any idea I was unvaccinated.
It was just assumed that everybody is because hashtag believe in science.
And my station even had a campaign called Wallet Keys Mask, I believe it was, where they're trying to teach you like, you know, before you get out the door, wallet, keys, phone, mask.
And they asked us all to send in pictures of us masked, and I just conveniently forgot to do it.
I don't hold it against people who did submit to do it, or who did go ahead and put their picture in that promo that they made, but I just, I felt icky being a part of it.
Journalism is about telling people about things, not what to do.
Yeah, tell me about it, not don't tell me what to do.
To say we've crossed that line is an understatement.
We just completely roll over these pharmaceutical companies and all these other entities.
It's very clear that this is a coordinated political effort.
This was planned.
This is bullshit.
Yeah.
And for lack of a better word, and it's also like coverage is intentionally, they choose things that are divisive.
They want people mad at their neighbors.
Um, they want you, they, they try to like find video people, like getting invites at the grocery store for one person wearing a mask and another person not.
And they want you to be angry and be outraged and pick a team and pit people against each other.
And that translates into dividing families, right?
Because then it's going to trickle down to your own family.
Like, Oh, my uncle voted for someone different or doesn't wear a mask.
I'm not going to invite him to Thanksgiving or my sister did it.
And then when you divide families, that's the easiest way to control people.
And that's what we're doing.
We're doing it in education.
And if I did any stories that were completely legitimate with all the evidence to back this up, just to look into the topic, it's not profitable for the advertisers, which are pharmaceutical companies and BlackRock and Vanguard.
So why would they go ahead and give me the green light to go ahead and pursue these from the perspective of a journalist?
They would never do that.
No, just go to a live shot from a vaccine site.
Go tell people to go get their shots and tag out because that's what they want you to do.
It's not journalism at this point.
It's filling airspace with propaganda and television ads.
That's all it is.
And that's why I knew it was heartbreaking because it was my dream for so long.
But you eventually, you have to realize that your integrity is worth more than a paycheck, which granted, a lot of people don't know this, but in local news, you don't make a ton of money.
You just don't.
No I can I can well believe that it's like it's like people when I used to do TV occasionally I used to even break bread with the BBC which I think was always a mistake actually you were always the best you can hope for is a draw you're never going to get a win because they because they arrange it you know so you are you are the crazy the crazy that is going to get sort of exposed and anyway but people used to imagine that that when you appear on TV you know
When you're on the idiot box, you must get loads of money.
I mean, they assume that, and you don't.
I mean, most people are kind of tragically desperate to get on TV.
But let me ask you, I mean, I was assuming that you were good at your job, and I've seen some of your independent videos, you know, like your report from Dover on the thank you for warning about how lots of migrants are being snuck across the channel and being welcomed into our It's been a real shock to me.
I spent 30 years of my life, something like that, in journalism and I did not have a clue about how mendacious and dishonest and fake the entirety of the MSM is.
Did you?
When you were working in it?
I would say so I was I've been working in it, you know, college and on.
I would say it was very late 2020, early 2021, where I'm like, all right, like I figured out what's going on here.
And you realize it's coordinated.
And again, you realize that all these media companies are the same.
There's this illusion that like, oh Fox is this one station, BBC is this one station, this is the liberal station, this is the conservative station, this is the station that does this, this, this.
They're all owned by the same handful of people.
It takes a while to really acknowledge that.
And the hard part is, too, like, I really like a lot of the majority of people I've worked with in my career.
I've worked with some producers and photographers that are really talented, hardworking people who, like, I enjoyed seeing at work every day, at work every day.
But you also have to realize that, like, these are good people that are in a bad industry.
It's like the healthcare and hospital system industry.
I mean, I talk to friends who are nurses that are good people and they got in because they wanted to care for people, but they see the most crazy corrupt shit every single day.
They tell me these stories about, you know, I have like one friend of a friend and I mean, she was thrown into an operating room without any training because they were short-staffed that day and they just threw her in there.
I'm like, what?
What's going on?
You know, there's a lot of dark, dark things that we don't talk about that go on in newsrooms that you and I could probably talk about all day.
It's an eerie feeling.
Which is always one of those dark, dark things that go on in newsrooms.
I mean, I had some red flags.
Like, for example, I remember Again, I'm like secretly the only unvaccinated girl at work.
And I remember, of course, they sent me to a vaccine site that day for my story.
I was on the morning show and this woman came up to me.
She's probably 60 years old and she's like healthy, fit, hot mom, right?
Like she's in the leggings.
And this is not a woman who appears to have any serious health conditions by any means.
Like this woman is not knocking on death's door.
And she comes up to me.
And, of course, we're all wearing masks because this was February of 2021.
So, like, vaccines were only available to older people at this point in California and, like, essential workers and stuff because, you know, they're rolling it out.
And in my mind, I'm like, this vaccine is going to be a nightmare.
So many people are going to regret it.
But I'm like, okay, I just have to be a good worker horse.
I have to be a good pony and just do my job, right?
Anyway, this woman comes up to me.
I don't remember her name.
She starts talking about how like, oh, it's so great to meet you.
I watch you every morning and I'm like, oh, that's so kind of you.
It's great to meet you too.
She says, you know, I watch you guys every morning.
And that's why I haven't left the house in a year.
I listen to you guys.
And I just want to let you know, I haven't seen anybody.
I haven't left my house.
I haven't done anything.
Um, because I watch you guys every morning and I know what you guys say to stay home.
Um, and like, she was, she was just like trying to let you know, like, don't rattle on me for being out of the house right now to get my vaccine.
Cause I always listen to you guys.
Um, instant wave of nausea came over me.
I was like, Oh my God, this perfectly healthy woman.
Has deprived herself of contact from friends and family, from going on walks with the dog.
We live really close to the beach, going on trips to the beach.
Anything that goes with our instincts and human nature to be around people, to be outside, to get sunlight, to have things that are healthy for you, my goodness.
She's completely thrown all that out the window to obey the narrative that's hammered into her from advertising and news.
And she's crediting us.
I felt, you know, I can't take responsibility for that because like, it's your choice to watch the news.
It's your choice to listen to it.
And like, this woman's an adult.
She has agency.
She makes her own decisions.
Right?
So ultimately at the end of the day, if she's deprived herself of contact with friends and family, and if she's chosen to stay home, that's her choice.
That's not on us.
But just the fact that she supposedly got the idea from us, I'm like, I am a part of the problem just by being in this organization.
And I brought it up to management.
I did.
I said, hey, journalism is about telling people what to do, not telling people to do things.
Again, this decision was this woman's decision, and she can't scapegoat us for the fact that she's an adult with an independence who made this decision.
But just the fact that she even psychologically has the idea from us troubles me.
It makes me think maybe we need to be really nitpicky about our wording, about our coverage.
Management was kind to me, and they were like, OK.
But nothing changed.
They didn't make me feel weird for bringing it up, but nothing changed.
We continued to push the narrative.
And then, I mean, Pfizer pays for news stories.
I think everyone knows that at this point, but Pfizer pays for news stories, which is completely unethical.
But that was the moment where I was like, huh?
No, that wasn't the moment.
It had already happened, but that was one.
I mean, the rest of the day, I was sick to my stomach, even when I got off work.
It's a terrible feeling.
We're teaching people to do the opposite of whatever is instinctually human nature, and we shouldn't be teaching people anything.
But one thing I want to bring up is I don't think the news brainwashes people, but I think people who are already brainwashed seek it out.
Cause it, it will, you know, cause if you or I wouldn't just be like, Oh, I'm going to go turn on the news at this point.
Cause at this point we're like, Oh my God, like get me away from that stuff.
Um, you and I wouldn't turn on the news and then just like take everything for what they say at face value and absorb it and then have it affect our behaviors.
We just wouldn't cause of our experiences.
Cause we're not brainwashed right by it.
Yeah.
But if you're already brainwashed, you'll seek that stuff out.
So I do think people are like, oh yeah, the news will brainwash everyday good people.
No, like those people are already brainwashed by social media, by what they've learned in school.
I mean, you're indoctrinated forever.
And I think I started seeing propaganda in so many facets of life.
Like we have it all the way from children, all the way to people in senior homes.
And I realized that news was such a big part of it.
And then I think, yeah, I was constantly shot down for story pitches.
Anything that is against the vaccine, they look at you like you are the craziest bitch in the world.
There's like an eerie silence on the zoom call.
No one wants to bring it up.
Um, and then I was also, so right after they found out I wasn't vaccinated and I was just honest with them about it, it was all about like riding cars together and you couldn't ride in a car with somebody else unless you were both vaccinated.
And I'm just like, Hey, like, it's not like coming out.
I'm like, Hey, I'm, I'm unvaccinated you guys.
Um, right after they found that out, um, You know, there was that, and then they didn't like something that I had tweeted that was completely true.
They hate the truth.
They can't handle the truth.
It was about the border, the US-Mexico border, obviously.
Which is open.
Parts of it, yeah, parts of it are.
Some parts are completely guarded and stuff, but we have tunnels.
That's the thing, we have these tunnels.
The government's, like, involved with the production of tunnels and so it's weird.
It's like, why are we, like, even remotely involved with helping with these tunnels if it's bringing people over?
And then it's like, do we want people over?
I mean, they're mainly used for drugs.
The governments are overdosed on them.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Obviously, like, geographically, the UK is set up differently than we are, but a lot of the drugs that come into the United States from Mexico Aren't just like people casually walking over with a bag of drugs in their hand, like that's not how it works.
A lot of the times there's traffic through tunnels.
And then, of course, these tunnels will get discovered and Border Patrol is not a press release as if they haven't known about him forever, as if they probably were involved in the production of them or were, you know, at least to an extent, okay with it, because we profit immensely from Drugs coming into the economy.
I mean, every economy benefits from drugs.
Well, I think the CIA probably benefits.
I mean, the CIA is essentially a drug and money laundering organization, isn't it?
Oh, I would, I mean, I would bet money on that.
That definitely makes sense to me.
Nobody should trust, should trust them or really any intelligence agency in the world.
And these intelligence agencies also, again, benefit from you being divided.
They benefit from this narrative that's pushed in so many aspects of funded media that are telling you to be against your family member.
Because again, that's how they keep families apart.
That's how they keep people controlled.
But what I was going to say was right after that happened, I was assigned to do an assignment called Younger, Sicker, Quicker.
They pulled me off of my normal schedule to do this very abruptly.
They were like, you're going to do this special project.
And I was like, all right.
They said, look into how hospitals and emergency rooms are filling up with people your age that are younger, sicker, quicker.
I said, okay, I'll look into it.
Sure, why not?
I got all the data you could get in San Diego County, every single hospital, and I was able to stratify it by age.
Of course, I found out it was not true.
People in their 20s and sometimes 30s are not filling up ICUs or Straight in the healthcare system in any capacity like that.
I, of course, wrote my report.
I was... I submitted it.
They kept sending me back to the drawing board, trying to change my story.
Eventually, they just wrote a new fucking story for me that was just full of lies and, you know, fear tactics.
And, you know, it would cross out cited sources.
It would just have me say things.
And they called me on my day off, told me to voice it.
And I edit all my own stories normally.
And they said, we'll have someone else edit it.
We'll just run it like they really wanted to make sure that it ran the message that they got was out there and this was definitely sending a message to me like you need to shut up and you need to listen to us if you want to keep this job like you're playing with fire you need to listen to us is what the message essentially was they didn't say that obviously but that's what the you know what they're saying it definitely felt like a threat and Um, I was, I went, I threw up.
And, um, cause I was at my house with my fucking day off.
And, which they never, ever contacted me on my day off before this.
This is right after again, finding out I'm unvaccinated, like shit's different now.
And I said, I can't track anything that I don't know to be true.
And it doesn't even feel like my story anymore.
Cause everything you're sending me, somebody else wrote.
Um, and I said that I'm, I said respectfully, like, I'm not going to voice this story.
Um, I don't believe it to be true and that would not be fair.
And again, I'm not gonna put my name on something that I didn't write.
If someone else wants to put their name on it, that's their business.
But, um, that was the hill that I was going to die on.
And I did, um, to this day, I think if I had done something like that, maybe I could have found ways to keep my job.
But, uh, you know, I think a lot of people have been faced with moral dilemmas in their life and in their job.
And, It was not worth selling my soul for a paycheck or for validation that I got this job that so many people really want.
Because a lot of people do want to work in TV, but... Sure.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
That goes against every journalistic value that we were ever taught.
And also, I think anybody can see through that.
I mean, if it were true, how many 20-year-olds or 30-year-olds do you know that are in the hospital for COVID?
Oh, and it was all about how it's unvaccinated young people that are filling up hospitals.
I should specify that.
It was sending a message to me like, hey, you're young, you're going to end up in the hospital if you don't go ahead and get this.
And I had some people tell me that, aren't you worried about going to the hospital?
And I'm like, no, no, I'm not.
If you are, that's fine.
If you want to stay home, I absolutely respect that.
Put your slippers on, girl, and stay home.
No one's going to judge you, but don't tell people what to do.
And I won't tell you what to do.
You can live in harmony.
Did any of your colleagues get adverse reactions to their jabs?
Yeah, actually, I did have one.
I won't say their name just out of respect for them, but I did have one colleague who felt forced to get it and had a gnarly reaction, like neurological issues, and actually brought up doing a story about the side effect.
Um, this person voices to me completely in private, um, cause this person was on camera every day and, uh, management said no and discouraged this person from posting it on any other social media.
Like I'm saying, because, you know, people, especially in this line of work are very open about every little thing they do.
Like they post their breakfast on their Instagram story.
And it was like, I had a coworker whose mom has Alzheimer's and she's done a number of stories on it.
She's done a whole series on it.
Um, I had another coworker who had preeclampsia or some kind of pregnancy condition and ended up doing a sweeps piece on it.
And explaining what it is and it's serious and even used video of herself.
Both these people use video of themselves in the story and, you know, talked about their own experiences in it.
So doing stories about yourself at my station was not uncommon.
Several people did it.
I had a coworker do her gender reveal on TV.
I had a coworker do a story about trick-or-treating with her own family and her own kids in it.
People are not opposed to inserting themselves in stories and into content at my station.
And if you had an interesting Disease to highlight and teach people about that would certainly be something that wasn't off the table, but anything criticizing the vaccine is mum's the word.
Don't say anything.
Don't post about it on our social media, even if you're posting every day.
Uh, it's that was that's the reality.
And that's what's that's a red flag to people.
What don't they want you to know?
Because everything should be open for public discourse.
Everything should be open for public discussion.
Um, and if anything, and also journalism is all supposed to be about transparency, but I'm learning that like media companies are all just about covering things up.
It's a lot of irony.
So people, if you can't hold drug companies accountable to some of the most powerful people in the world, then what makes you think that they're holding your kind of supervisor accountable?
Your city councilor accountable, your mayor accountable, your prime minister accountable.
They're not.
We're not.
We don't even have the ability to with all the red tape that we have on us.
And it's riddled with irony.
So then it's like, okay, who do you trust?
Who do you get your information from?
Because not everybody has time to just vet through all the things that we do.
I mean, it would be my job to read through documents and comb through things.
But if you've got a day job with something else, you don't have time for a second day job to just investigate everything.
That's why people rely on us, and they should be able to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree.
So, a few years ago, I started getting interested in the environmental movement.
And I started out, I looked at wind turbines and I thought, I hate these bastard things, they're ugly, they're, you know.
I drove through that pass, I think it was in California, that's where I saw my first wind.
Yeah, it's the Palm Springs, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Palm Springs, right?
Like in the desert?
Yeah, I love that area.
People say it kills birds.
It does, it does.
So, yeah, and so do the solar arrays.
But anyway, the point, so I started looking into it and it was like stumbling upon this A realm, a zone of low-hanging fruit.
There were so many good stories because it turned out that everything you were taught about the environment, be it diminishing polar bear populations, be it about drowning Pacific Islands, be it about global warming itself, be it about the dying coral reefs, It was all bullshit.
In every single detail.
Everything you were told in the newspapers, everything you were taught at school, everything people learned on geography courses or budget courses was absolute bullshit.
And I was thinking as a journalist, well, this is great.
This is the dream.
Because here you are, I've got a situation where The public and the official, the public believes something and the official narrative says this, but the truth is there.
And you're thinking, wow, I mean, like, I'm Scoop Dillingpole.
Endless series of articles about how it's all bullshit.
So I read a book about this and I thought, well, This industry is not going to survive.
I mean, not just because of me, but because the facts do not support anything that these people are saying.
It's all lies.
It's all vested interests and stuff.
But 12 years later, or however it was, since I wrote the book, I find that the caravan moves on.
And it's the same with, I mean, the vaccines, we know.
But tell me, I went into journalism because I'm a naughty, a cheeky chappy.
You know, I just, I like to, I kind of don't respect arbitrary authority.
I want to know the truth, however unpalatable it might be.
And I'm sensing that you're motivated by the same kind of thing.
So what I'm wondering is, what about all the other people who wanted a career in journalism?
Why have they not applied the same basic principles to their job?
Because everything that's in our culture right now instinctively tells you otherwise.
I'll give you an example.
You talked all about how you wanted to look into some of these environmental claims, which everybody should be able to look into fairly.
There are all these different signs in our culture right now that are telling people not to have kids, and it's all about population control.
There are signs of population control all around us, and I started picking up on them maybe a year and a half, two years ago.
And once you start noticing, it's like these little breadcrumbs.
So for example, They will talk about environmental issues and they'll say, oh, yeah, climate change is really bad.
You shouldn't have kids or every family should only have one kid because of everybody's carbon footprint and the amount of resources it takes to feed one person.
And, you know, the number one things that you can do for the planet or be vegan and don't have kids.
They're pushing that.
And you start seeing articles all the time, all the time about why, you know, feminists say it's bad for family.
You know, in order to defeat racism, we have to abolish the traditional family.
Uh, you know, why we should have fewer kids.
And then you'll see these articles and these like bullshit, like women's magazines, like, you know, women who don't have kids as a sign of hierarchy or why women who don't have kids are happier, or, you know, why the economy needs you to have less kids.
They say it in these cute, quirky, funny ways.
You have all these memes about moms and dads who talk about like what a drag it is and oh, all the laundry and stuff piling up and how hard it is.
Um, I don't want to tell people what to do.
If you don't want to have a family, don't have a family.
I think.
But being anti-family, and it's not that they're necessarily anti-family, they're anti-people, they are trying to control the population.
This vaccine too, the way that we sweep side effects underneath the rug and that, you know, all these women are coming with infertility concerns.
The Pfizer docs that were released through FOIA requests, through a Freedom of Information Act request, are talking All about the side effects.
I mean, I interviewed a doctor who was talking about how in a very small sample size, but of 32 women who already had side effects to begin with, who happened to be pregnant, 28 of those babies are not alive.
That's effing crazy.
Obviously super small sample size and we need context for it, but we're not talking about that.
So there's all these different mechanisms of population control.
So again, it's not just like this one sector, but you will see signs of it all over the place in books, in TV shows that are on, You know, these funded television stations.
There are so many little things all around us that they're trying to tell people have less kids.
It'll make you happier.
And they're also trying to kill us off to it.
They're trying to make us infertile.
And you'll notice that like wealthy elites, they're going to keep having kids.
They're going to keep renting out surrogates.
Surrogacy has become very popular with like wealthy celebrities in the US.
They just like, you know, lease somebody's womb out and now you can have a baby through them.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of same-sex couples do it that are celebrities and a lot of like older celebrities who are like having trouble conceiving will do it and like everyone should have the option to have a family but These are the same people who are going on these UNICEF and climate change tours.
And, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio, like, has a yacht.
You want to tell me he's not sketchy?
I'll put my money on it that he's up to no good.
And he's Mr. Climate Change Awareness guy and does all the movies about it.
People are not realizing that you have to connect the dots and you have to realize that, like, they're trying to influence your behavior and they're trying to make you think it's your idea and that it's empowering in some sort of way to, like, be angry, be bitter and be anti-family.
When I think having a family is the most important thing that you could do.
Again, only if you want to, because I believe in not telling people what to do.
Again, tell people about things, don't tell people what to do.
So it's not just journalism.
I encourage everybody to start listening.
You'll see little articles that pop up on your social media all the time with these little subliminal messages, either financially, health-wise, or for the environment, why you should have fewer kids.
Also, the way we treat poor people, too.
It's ridiculous.
Like, I could go on forever about it.
I have to shut myself up about it.
But that's just one example of, like, it's not just journalism.
Like, it's every little facet of society.
People need to apply these critical thinking skills and think, huh, is there a financial motive to have me more controlled, have me weaker?
And, you know, there's going to be less than me, but there's going to be more of them because they're trying to control the population of certain people.
No, what you say about the war on the family and the war on having children is most certainly true.
And equally, what you say about this whole trend for what they now call plant-based food, because they realise that veganism, the vegan, it sounds like vagina, doesn't it, a bit?
Or it's something across between vagina and the kind of alien from another planet, the vegans.
It's not, it's not going to make you think delicious food.
So they came up with this plant-based bollocks.
Suddenly it was everywhere and all the supermarkets were pushing it.
They had sort of special sections, but they still do, plant-based food.
I hardly ever see anyone buying the plant-based food stuff.
The narrative they push out that loads of people are converting to plant-based food seems to be not borne out by actual observed data, real world evidence, that they're pushing this because they know that vegan food is Basically, it makes you weak.
It makes you pliable.
I mean, you know, you look at vegans.
I've done a podcast recently with a guy who was much kinder than I am about vegans and nutritionists, but it's quite tough being a vegan.
And yet, if you wanted to get one of your commissioning editors to do a piece on why veganism is the hot new thing and the groovy kids are doing it, you'd get it commissioned like a shot, wouldn't you?
They seem to buy into the narrative and promote it.
It's funny you bring that up because I was going to bring that up next.
It kind of goes with the whole population control and control thing.
So don't judge me.
I was a pescatarian when I was 21 years old.
Again, I thought I was just doing my part and helping.
This was before I picked up on a lot of the stuff going on.
Again, I had this rose-colored glasses, optimistic, happy-go-lucky attitude, but I was driving through rural Nebraska, which in the U.S.
is like cornfields.
This was probably five, six years ago.
I'm driving through rural Nebraska, and I'm listening to a podcast, and it's talking about people who have Survived abductions and who have been kidnapped before.
And one of the most common traits that kidnappers have is they all deprive their victims of meat while they're in captivity and they just feed them those sugar sticks.
They don't feed them meat or any kind of protein because when you have protein, it helps your brain function.
And if you have brain function, you might be smart enough to figure out a way out of there and figure out an escape strategy.
And they don't want that.
They kidnapped you for a reason.
They don't want you running away and getting away.
So the easiest way to prevent you from being strong enough mentally or physically, I'd argue too, but definitely mentally to brainstorm some kind of escape strategy is to deprive you of protein and feed you sugar.
And I remember thinking in that moment, maybe I shouldn't be a pescetarian anymore.
Maybe eating meat is the way to go.
So it does make people easier to control, especially if they do it for a long period of time.
That's a really common, and I looked it up, it is, it is a really common thing that people do.
So if you think, if you want to eat beyond meat, if you want to eat beyond meat, like again, not telling people to do it, then eat it, but don't be under the bruise that it's better for your brain.
People, we need, we've had, there's this like war on protein and coverage and they have all these bullshit studies that were forced to publish about how protein Isn't that important?
And it's all these other things.
And yes, other things are certainly important, but protein is so important for brain function and keeping you well and keeping you strong and depriving it is an easier way to keep people controlled.
They're going to try to make people, I'm going to go on record and say this.
They're going to try to make as many people allergic to me as they can in the next hundred years.
A hundred percent.
Bill Gates is going to be behind that for sure.
But they want people to be, I remember, honestly, I remember thinking that's what vaccine was going to be.
You mentioned the term, this strain of tick, which is making people allergic to meat.
I wonder who bioengineered whatever is in that tick.
Yeah.
You know what's funny?
I thought that's what the vaccine was going to be.
I remember when it first came out, I'm like, I bet you it's going to make people allergic to meat.
Like, I bet you it's going to make people get physically sick whenever they eat it.
So they have to eat, you know, beyond meat and soy milk and end up looking like Bill Gates does, which is not how I would like to age, fingers crossed.
Yeah.
By the way, I just want to say thank you for that kidnapper's fact.
I mean, people are going to remember.
It's going to be one of the things people are going to remember from this chat.
So if you're driving through a cornfield right now and you're listening to us, take this as a sign.
Go find some local farmer in your town that has grass-fed beef.
Eliminate the middleman.
Just get a good relationship going and start integrating a little bit of protein back into your life if you're a vegan or vegetarian right now.
It'll be a whole new world.
Yeah, but also to any would-be kidnappers listening to this podcast, don't let your victim get away.
Make sure you get lots of sugar snacks.
Don't give them, I mean, it's a very useful tip.
I'm going to, you know, next time I go out kidnapping.
Next time you kidnap somebody, okay.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
No, it's, the thing is, I, As recently as, well, I mean, as recently as really quite recently.
I spent three months, I think it was three months, on a vegan diet.
I'd had Lyme disease, which I now think is probably another bioengineered bioweapon that went out of control.
And again, designed to make us all ill.
So I don't think Lyme disease was actually a problem before quite recently, before it got kind of weaponized.
Anyway, I went and had this stem cell treatment in Germany and passed the protocol.
They said, you know, you must go on this anti-inflammatory, our nutritionist recommends this anti-inflammatory diet and anti-inflammatory mint.
Freaking vegetables and it was a nightmare.
It was an absolute nightmare because you can't even eat dairy.
So I ended up spending twice the amount you would, you know, instead of yogurt or yogurt as you and I like yogurt for my breakfast.
I would be eating this kind of cocoa stuff made out of coconut oil, which is nice enough, but that was me really quite recently.
I just had no idea about That veganism is a plot to weakness.
In fact, so much is a plot.
I mean, are you with me on this?
That the world you and I lived in was based on a completely false prospectus, which has been sold to us from birth by the media, by our parents, by the education system, by Hollywood, by everything.
And it was all a bloody lie.
I completely agree with you.
I think it's the power.
It's the people like BlackRock and Vanguard that then fund these institutions, that indirectly fund these schools, fund these media companies, and get the message out to people.
They have tremendous funding and backing by organizations like the Gates Foundation, who wants to push a world where we're easier to control.
They have access to our internet information and servers, and we are not strong mentally.
Our families aren't strong.
We're easier to control.
It is true.
I mean, and I have people in my life that I love that are vegans, but I do notice that they are usually the first people to fall for whatever the next thing is that you're supposed to be outraged about.
Ukrainian.
I'll bet they're very angry.
Exactly.
Oh, yeah.
Like every vegan I know has a Ukrainian flag but could not name one fact about Ukraine.
Tell me the capital.
Tell me the name of any government official.
They couldn't tell you.
They're like, oh, I know the fact.
It's maybe blue and yellow.
That's all they could tell you.
Yeah.
And that's all that matters because it shows that you care.
Like, like veganism does.
You care about the animals.
I know.
So, um, have you, um, I'm sure the answer's yes.
Um, those of us who've gone down the rabbit hole have found it, we've become like pariahs in a way.
I mean, we've, we've met a new group of people that, that we feel a bond with, like never before you've had a bond with.
Yeah.
But, but so many others have kind of, they don't want to know us anymore.
Do you find this?
Yeah, I would say, I mean, I have people in my life that are both vaccinated, unvaccinated, like kind of agree with what I believe is going on and kind of don't.
And it's not going to change.
Like I decided I made a really conscious choice early on that, like, I wasn't going to ever let, you know, a family member having a different political belief about something, you know, interfere with my relationship with them.
If it was going to be severed, it was going to be because of them.
But I'm not going to let this very conscious effort to divide families impact me and the people that I love.
I made that decision.
That being said, I do trust people more who kind of see things the way that you and I do, because I'm like, oh, okay, they're observant.
They're noticing these little breadcrumbs in our lives.
Again, that's what I call them, breadcrumbs, and they're sprinkled everywhere.
So I do inherently trust people more who see it, because I'm like, okay, they see what I see.
I'm not saying I like them better, or that I love people any less who see things differently than me, but I do inherently trust them a little bit more and trust their judgment more, and there is that relatability.
I won't lie, I definitely have fewer friends than I did before this stuff all started and before I left news.
But then again, maybe that just means that those people weren't true friends anyway, because my friends vaccinated or not, or who are my true friends, are still here.
I didn't make a huge splash when I left my job.
I think a lot of people expected me to.
I think management was a little bit worried because I didn't do a live shot on my last day, and I'm sure that was on purpose.
I think that they expected me to like, you know, go on air and go on some tantrum, but that's not my style.
Um, I left very quietly and then I just kind of reemerged about two months later with my own little rumble show.
Uh, but I, yeah, I left quietly for sure.
But I think that you have to realize that like, not everyone's going to be supportive of it.
I mean, I had a friend who I've known forever and she unfollowed me on social media.
On her public accounts, but on her private personal accounts, she still follows me.
And I'm sure that's because she doesn't want to be seen with me to jeopardize her own television career for working in the same kind of space that I do.
But in private, I get a ton of support.
In public, not as much.
But in private, overwhelming.
Even most of my co-workers that I worked out with my old station will still call or text me and say that they agree with me on stuff.
But they just were like, oh, I have kids, so I couldn't risk losing my job.
Or, oh, I have a mortgage, so I couldn't risk losing my job.
So I can't stand up to it.
But like, I secretly have the same concerns that you do.
And I'm willing to hear you get a lot of that too.
I bet you at dinner parties, people agree with you, but how many people are going to retweet you in your personal life?
How many people are going to like really, because they have their own jobs to think about.
And if they work for companies that have this image to maintain, they don't like them spreading that kind of messaging.
And I don't really blame them, but at the same time, they're part of the problem.
Yeah.
There are people in my life that, for example, I've known for years who Probably we thought that we were politically aligned, you know, we probably thought that Margaret Thatcher was a good thing and we believed in, we were conservatives and we believed in, we believed in, I don't know, the things that conservatives in Britain are supposed to believe in, the royal family, the army, the British Empire and stuff.
I realised that, in those cases, we diverged massively.
I don't believe in left and right anymore.
I think they're complete consequences of this illusion of choice, whereas before I did.
So I'd refer to somebody as a lefty and I'd dismiss them and somebody on the right was probably, I would call them sound.
But for example, I was at a drinks party the other day and I was talking to these two chaps who, hitherto, We would have chitchatted about this and that, but we'd have got on completely politically, but we got on the subject of Ukraine.
And this chap, well, both of them actually, just laughed down the noses at me.
I mean, they laughed in my face, like I was a complete nutcase who hadn't a clue what he was talking about.
And the only sensible response was derision.
And I thought, this is not a very English thing to do.
You don't laugh at people with different views.
You've kind of mentioned it to the wife on the drive home, like, gosh, I had an extraordinary conversation with James Ellingborough.
But you wouldn't make your contempt and derision obvious.
And I thought, this is, well, apart from anything else, I learned how far I have I've moved on from the kind of the mainstream.
But also I realized what deluded idiots people in the mainstream are.
They think they know everything and they know nothing.
And I feel embarrassed by this incident.
I didn't feel like I'd been belittled.
I just thought you are stupid twats and you think you know everything and you know nothing.
Which is sad.
Yeah, that's funny you mention that.
I mean, I felt that way all the time.
Like people think, I would have people in this line of work, a lot of people think they're experts about something.
I'm like, no, I've been in your shoes.
You got your assignment at 10am, you've got a press release, and you can't become an expert at something by 5pm by the time your story airs.
But you're going to talk about it like you're an expert.
And I know deep down they're like, you know, like, if I'm going to do a story about taxes, I'm not an accountant.
I'm not going to have the knowledge that somebody who's studied this for years and years and has been working in this field for years and years has.
But they're going to have me go on and do a segment on how to tackle your taxes coming up at five o'clock.
But there is this sense of like, especially when you're on social media, like, I do think that like reporters think that they know everything.
And it's like, oh gosh, it is a little bit cringy.
I think the whole point of journalism is accepting what we don't know and like trying to better our understanding.
I trust reporters because I think I had that realization when I was like 25.
I'm like, wow, I used to think that I was like the smartest bitch ever.
And now I'm like, oh, there's so much I don't know.
I'm not right about everything.
I'm not.
And that's like a pill to swallow.
But that's when like the second half of your life begins, when you realize how exciting it is that there's so much more for you to learn.
No, I agree.
I've just been writing, I wouldn't mention it, but I've just been writing a chapter of my next book on this and looking back at my past and looking at that.
I used to think I was not the smartest guy in the room, but one of the smarter ones.
You know, I'd had a rich education and I believed in, I believed in the paradigm and I was very good at everything to do with the paradigm.
I knew about history.
I knew about literature.
I knew about politics.
I knew all these things.
But what I realize now is that my belief system was based on propaganda and lies.
I mean, so much of our history is false history.
Everything we know about the history of vaccination that we were told is a really good thing, you know, and Jenner and smallpox and all that.
Or, I don't know, the true origins of the Second and the First World Wars.
I mean, really, almost the bigger the stuff, The more false the narrative about it is.
I can see why people have such difficulty making the leap, because it is like taking the red pill when you've been living in the blue pill world.
Most people would kind of rather eat the synthy meat and imagine that it was a real steak, rather than going to this world where you discover that nothing you've It's hard.
Let me ask you, before we... I could talk to you for hours, actually, Alison.
Thank you.
We're going to have to do... The fact is, because of the nature of our work, we're like magpies and we collect lots of information like when you kidnap somebody, give them sugary food.
Really useful.
I'm not going to forget that.
But we're definitely doing another podcast.
But I wanted to ask you, what do you think it is about you That was immune to this, you know, how come you saw the light?
What is it about us that we can see why other people can't?
I think when you're confronted with information that goes against what you know to be true or what you, you know, the facade that you see in front of you for so many years, you have two different choices, it's going to make you uncomfortable.
So you can either go with it and suppress that new information to reaffirm those biases that you already have, that you've been brainwashed with this propaganda, Or the more difficult decision is you can stop, take a deep breath and digest it and think, huh, okay, maybe I don't know everything.
Maybe I, there, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I've been lied to and that's a tough pill to swallow, but that's the thing.
Not everybody is willing to have those hard conversations and have that tough pill to swallow and look to alternative sources and maybe think, oh, okay, maybe something's great just going on because We're taught to suppress that gut instinct that something's wrong.
We've been in so many situations where things just don't sound right.
So many things in the beginning of COVID, you're like, oh, that doesn't exactly sound right.
Like, that's kind of fishy, but we have to trust the science, like a religion.
I call science with a dollar sign.
We have to trust the science.
That's how you get people to blindly follow it.
And I think there are people who are just now waking up that wish that they woke up two years ago.
Well, I don't care.
I mean, look, I'm absolutely fine with people waking up later.
I don't I don't judge them.
It's the people who are not waking up at all that worry me.
But I just just you remind me one of the things that one of the things that that sort of triggered my my antennae was every gas station
had a a pre-printed um on on sort of weatherproof sheeting you know this had obviously been done in advance uh celebrating the National Health Service and and and the the the vaccine program and our heroic nurses and it felt like it felt like sort of um post of celebrating heroic tractor producers in the in the Soviet Union and I thought how did they Come up with this stuff.
Who paid for it?
Where was it?
Well, you know, did the petrol station suddenly say, you know, what we really need is some more signs praising the NHS?
Well, no, they wouldn't have done that, would they?
So where did it come from?
What was the government department?
Who was responsible for this?
I never really got to the bottom of it, because I was still, even at that stage, I was still thinking, well, I mean, in the early stages, I thought the pandemic was real.
I mean, I thought there was a deadly virus going around, because I'd seen the footage from Italy, Which I now realize was just fate or, you know, or people being killed off by being put on ventilators, which we now know actually kill you.
They finish you off, they don't save you.
Anyway, yeah, you're right.
And that was traditional.
Breadcrumbs.
But you didn't quite Answer the question, you described the choice people have to make between cognitive dissonance on the one hand, or breaking free on the other.
I mean, this is my phrase, it's not yours, but that's basically what it is.
Those of us who choose to break free, I mean, is there anything in your background, anything in your makeup that renders you immune to No, no.
That's the funny thing is I don't feel like a lot of the people in my life are of the same perception that I am.
I think it just goes back to journalistic principles.
And again, it's not just one day everything changes.
To be red-pilled or however you want to describe it, it's a gradual process.
There's all these little things that you connect the dots together.
I think I'm just a A strong-willed person.
And I think I also, the way I've aged is I've learned to not, you know, I think I realized that these, these bad people, they prey on people's empathy and that's how they can control you in another way too.
You know, when you look at this pandemic, they say, Oh, you know, if you don't do this, you don't care about grandma.
Like we have to say grandma.
Um, all my grandparents are long gone, but it preys on your empathy.
And so then when you start realizing all this bullshit, you're like, Oh, but what about all the grandmas out there?
If we really cared about all the elderly, we would not have locked them in these horrible, neglectful senior homes in solitary confinement for 23-24 hours a day.
With no social interaction to deprive them of having the visitors of their family members.
It's really sick what we've done to the elderly.
It gets me really upset and really fired up.
I tweet about it all the time.
You can't be pro-life if you are not pro-elderly.
I hope people realize that because it's despicable the way we've treated.
I mean, it's messed up how we've locked up kids away and now they're all like, they very much wanted kids to be like suicidal and confused and they accomplished that.
But it's also really messed up how we've locked away older people too.
It's basically like being in solitary confinement in a jail cell is what we've done to them, and some places still don't have full time visitor access it's ridiculous but I think I am just a strong willed person, and I do have values that are true to me.
And I think it was really hard for me to be confronted with that.
But I think once I realized that preying on empathy is how they get people to do things and, you know, you don't want to be labeled homophobic or racist or things like that.
These are terms they themselves invented, though.
These are they're all false.
I don't think hardly anyone is really racist or really homophobic.
I mean, they might.
Exactly.
And we take away individual responsibility when we label these things as systemic.
Like if somebody goes and commits a terrible attack, I feel like we totally take the responsibility off that person and we blame it on systemic racism.
Like, no, like, we need to be making example out of these, like, individual violent people instead of blaming the culture or, like, blaming the school system on this person because then that also gives people in the future an excuse to use it as a scapegoat if they want to do bad things.
And then it makes you think that there are way more bad people out there than there are.
There aren't that many bad people.
Most people are good people, but the handful of people that are bad are bad people because good people will blindly follow them.
It's bystanders.
Now, my final tip for you, Alison, is are you a Morrissey fan?
A Morrissey fan?
No, I don't know much about Morrissey.
Do you know a pop group called The Smiths?
Maybe you're too young.
The band?
Yeah, I know the band.
OK, The Smiths.
OK, you know Morrissey was the lead singer, is the lead singer.
I did not know that actually.
Go onto your Spotify now, or whatever, and listen to a song called Spent the Day in Bed by Morrissey.
And the chorus is Stop Watching the News.
And you will, I guarantee, I guarantee you love, you will love the song.
And everyone should listen to this.
It's good.
Spent the Day in Bed.
Go and check it out.
Okay.
Now, will you promise me to come back on the podcast soon?
I really love this.
I would love to.
And people, like I said, I started my own thing too.
So if people... Tell us, where can we find your thing?
Oh yes.
So in January, like I said, I had this dream of being an independent journalist and not having Big Pharma or any of these bastards, you know, control what we do in journalism and the truth.
So I brainstormed how to do it for a while.
And then I just was like, okay, Rumble's the way to go because it's the most uncensored and it's not going to censor dialogue.
Like this conversation we're having now and a lot of platforms would not fly.
And we haven't said anything too crazy.
But I decided on that.
So I have a Rumble show.
Easiest way to find me is on Twitter.
I'm Alison Royal TV.
That's A-L-L-I-S-O-N Royal TV.
And then my Rumble show is linked in there.
Or if you just search Alison Royal on Rumble, it's there.
If people could subscribe, it would mean the absolute world.
I'm trying to have the most subscribers that I can.
And then I also have a Gibson Go if people feel that they're in a position to help, you know, support me a little bit.
Just because, as you know, we put a lot of hours into this, but I don't have you know the advertising revenue to back me up i'm just kind of right now it's more of a just you know something i do because i love it um so yeah that's where you can find me alison royal on twitter and on rumble alison you're so much better than me at doing that that pitch for support um i guess i you People just go, oh, fuck him.
We don't like him.
Why should we give him money?
But just in case, just in case, those of you who do support me, I love very, very much.
Loved ones of people I adore.
If you too subscribe me on Subscribestar, on Patreon, on Substack and on Locals.
You can find me at all those places and you can support me and you can buy me coffee and I love it when you do and it helps me do more of this stuff like this I'm doing with Alison and I promise you if you support me I'll do another another podcast with Alison soon, okay?
Oh okay, deal!
I would love to do that.
That would be wonderful.
I've really loved it.
Thank you very much.
And have a nice LA day, if you can, with Gavin Newsom running your state.
Oh God, I mean, we could do a whole episode about how much he's paid for it and who's lining his pocketbook.
He is a- We should, yeah, we should do a California shit podcast because actually I used to love California.
You know, I used to be all Tom Petty, free falling, you know, driving down the freeway in an open top Mustang.
Now, why would anyone want to go there?
Yeah, it's very fun.
My whole family's from here.
But now I travel all over the country and all over the world.
I'm pretty much in a different state or different country every week, just doing stories wherever I go and trying to, you know, make up for lost time.
So, you know, send me your story ideas.
I could be coming to your town and I'd love to look into it.
Excellent.
And I hope to meet you in person one day, Alison.
Thanks very much.
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