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May 12, 2022 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Laura Perrins - Chinwag
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Welcome to the Delingpole.
I'm James Delingpole.
And I know I always say this about this big special guest, but actually, this is very exciting.
This is James.
Chinwack.
I mean, Laura.
Yes, Laura.
People have been Clamoring.
Yes, aching.
Laura, tell us, explain why you haven't been doing any podcasts.
Oh, well, yes, I've produced, I've produced an entire child since I think we spoke last.
So I'm just trying to think if there's a slight echo.
No, I'm OK.
Can you hear me?
You can hear and see me OK.
It's it's going to be.
Yeah, it's going to be slightly.
Because I'm not in niches, but I'm hoping that it will work.
And if it doesn't, well, you know, we tried anyway.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we're back.
I can hear you.
Sorry.
I was my fault.
I just did something.
I was checking my wife.
I wasn't going through my phone.
I think I'll just get rid of that phone, actually.
And yeah, so we love.
Yeah Perrin's number four has landed and I can't remember how long it's been and you know the way it is, it's just a bit mental.
But he kind of naps a bit now so I thought we could get one in during nap time.
He is actually asleep up there which is a miracle because obviously if you schedule something usually they decide to mess it up but he is dreaming.
Oh good.
I was going to say, not that it was an option, not that it is an option, but I think you've put me off having any, any small children.
I'm, I'm, I think I'm happy to be past that stage of my life.
You know, sleep deprivation and stuff like that.
Yeah.
When people are, they smell nice, don't they?
The thing is then when you pick them up, it does make it all worthwhile.
They are just, yeah.
Yeah.
They, he is very super, super cute as well.
He's a big chunky monkey, but, um, Yeah, yeah.
Well, you know, if you don't think about the sleep deprivation too much, then I feel just don't think about it.
Just power on.
No, exactly.
Well, so can you remember when we last did a podcast?
I can't.
I genuinely cannot.
I mean, I was I was expecting I must have been maybe seven months, maybe maybe six months ago, a little bit of summer.
I think maybe we were coming out of Out of all this silly lockdown thing.
But yeah, definitely quite a while, quite a while.
Because lots of people said at the time of our, when we were doing a regular.
Yes.
We're saying that it was a lifesaver, that this was the conversation that they wanted to hear because it made them realize that they're not the only person in the world feeling like The world has gone mad and nobody around them seems to understand what's going on.
And so, well done.
There were a few people that were also said enough.
So those people don't need to listen to us, of course.
That is the beauty of an off button.
What do you mean?
Oh, people who didn't like us?
Well, there were one or two that were like, we don't need to hear from her again, James.
Can you just move on?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
They were.
Do you know, amazingly, there are some people out there who don't who don't like me.
That is shocking.
I've just noticed this recently.
Did you see the story in today?
Well, you wouldn't have read it, but in today's Guardian, I mean, today at the time of recording, there was a story about how it was my son who leaked, who took the third Kia Starmer.
Could result in the deposition of the Labour Party.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, I didn't know that.
They've dragged you into that, have they?
I kept it quiet because I didn't.
I don't like my children being exposed to the horrible world.
Oh, but it was actually him, wasn't it?
He's in Durham.
Yeah.
Oh, it was him.
No, no, it genuinely was him.
But I wasn't going to I wasn't going to boast about it on social media or anything.
And and but it's quite interesting reading the comments from the Guardian Easter's below the below the.
I might have to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's things that, you know, there's tweets on the line like, oh, oh, my God, James Delingpole has bread.
I pity the poor, poor child.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're very unoriginal.
And the other ones are that, you know, this is exactly the kind of behaviour I would accept, except from the evil spawn of Delinqol.
And then there are various, there are various ways to put it.
And in this occasion, they genuinely are conspiracy theorists, because it is very interesting when you actually, in every last respect, And you know that the elaborate theories they're coming up with about, you know, he can't have just been walking past.
It has to be a setup.
Yeah.
And they're looking for more devious explanations than the than the it was just a coincidence.
He happened to be walking past, which is the truth, by the way.
I mean, it's amazing.
You could you could you could argue that it was kind of heaven sent, which I think it kind of was.
But it definitely was a coincidence.
There was no kind of planning from Conservative central office or anything.
Yeah, but also even who who cares?
I mean, it would have meant that your son was what?
Staking out Labour HQ.
Knowing that they were going to breach the lockdown rules.
I mean, even if that was the case, I'd be like, so what?
I mean, I don't think Keir Starmer set himself up.
Anyway, the whole story is BS.
I haven't taken much notice of either of them, I'm afraid to be honest.
I mean, they do matter in the, you know, you inflicted this much misery on us, take the pain, which they are taking.
So I know I kind of should care more than I do, but they're also bigger, kind of bigger issues now.
It's that whole thing, right, about the media saying, you know, Aunt Bobby, her granny died without anybody holding her hand while you ate cake or had curry or whatever.
Shame on you.
And you're like, no, you should have actually been against the rules anyway.
Right.
I mean, I think I did a whole blog on this.
The evil was that the rules existed, not that these fools broke them.
You know, that's the point.
That's the point.
Absolutely.
And on a sort of lower level of infamy.
OK, so it was particularly egregious when the politicians like Keir Starmer, who voted for these these absurd and wrong regulations and who actually whipped his party into voting for them.
I mean, they're obviously the top of the well, you know, they're higher up the list of evildoers.
Yeah.
But the ordinary people of this country who acquiesced.
Yeah.
I mean, if people had risen up and say, no, I'm not going to let my let grandma die alone.
Yes.
Unvisited.
And in the care home, I'm going to let them say, you cannot go and see your sick mother.
People should have just said, what is going on here?
All the qualities that make us human, legislated by a government which hates us.
Yeah, no, exactly.
That's what annoyed me and we did absolutely right about it in that you ordinary person going along with the rules, we're also to blame.
You know, I mean, look, it's difficult because you are against the system or whatever.
But people did acquiesce far too quickly.
We said that all along.
And I remember reading a piece, you know, in The Times, I read it so you don't have to, where a vicar said he felt a little bit guilty, looking back now and all of this coming out, he felt a little bit guilty, you know, when he shushed the widow who was singing quietly alongside her husband's coffin.
You know, because the singing could have caused COVID.
So he shushed her and he didn't let her do that.
And I'm thinking, no, Vicar, you should always have felt guilty about that, irrelevant of what Boris Johnson did or what Keir Starmer did.
That very act of you shushing this poor widow who wants to sing to her dead husband as he lay beside her in his casket, you shushing her was an act of evil, not the greatest evil ever known to mankind, but it was an act of evil and you should never have done it, irrelevant of what the rules said.
So that's the key points.
And wouldn't you have said that, I mean, Vickers, they've really got one job, haven't they?
What?
What?
I mean, it's about...
These are the facets of the main job, which is bringing people closer to God aware, acting as a kind of intermediary between people and the divine, and completely failing in this respect.
I mean, so many so many churches have failed.
There was one in there was one, I think, in North Kensington.
I must have tracked down a high church Anglican I think I got the impression who was who kept his church open, saying, like, this is our job.
Yes.
So many, so many because I think with the Catholic Church, I mean, every church, I think pretty much the only ones that worked were things like the Latin rights.
Oh, yeah.
They really based on.
Yeah, they will adjust.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're the hardcore of a friend of a friend who is not a Catholic, but is, you know, a sort of believing Christian said she was very, very tempted to go to the I think it's the Birmingham Oratory.
Well, they do a really good Latin Mass service and the talk is, it would be like listening to a James and Laura Chinwag.
That's the kind of conversation.
They are absolutely hardcore.
And of course, it's the thing that your Pope wants to stop, the Latin Mass.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, that's it.
That's a whole, I mean, that's that's probably a whole other podcast because I mean, I don't go myself.
In Ireland you do, and yeah, the Pope is trying to shut down at least Paul's, a lot of the Latin masses.
But I mean, I think the whole...
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, obviously a basic thing is to comfort the grieving, not to give out to them, you know, because Boris told you to, to comfort the bereaved.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Boris told me that you can't sing, uh, 85 year old widow.
You're like, you, you didn't ever have to do that.
No one was standing over him to do that.
He just did it as a, as a, because that was the right thing to do.
Right.
That was what the, the worthy virtue signaling thing was to do.
So now he feels a bit guilty about it.
So I don't really have a lot of time for, You know, I suffered greatly during the lockdown because I abided by the rules when we've been saying from the beginning, you should have put up at least some resistance, you know, and the fact that you went along with it just made it worse and prolonged it and made the agony for other people a lot worse.
So, yeah, no, I mean, speaking of masses, I have they're still wearing masks in my mass, which is really irritating.
And actually, I wrote a whole blog on it in Catholic Herald for people who want to read that.
And because it annoys me that they're around the kids.
Keep your fear to yourself, please.
Yes, quite.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So can you take communion yet?
Yes.
No.
You get to drink out of the... No, no, no, no, no, no, just, yeah.
So, um, I, you know, it's kind of sad in a way because they're very nice to the kids and, you know, they obviously, they come up to the baby, but they're smiling at my baby with their face mask on.
And I'm just like, I really, this really annoys me.
It annoys me.
I said this to, when we were doing all the podcasts during the lockdown, I was like, I see mothers out there wearing face masks, you know, while while pushing their babies in their pram and you're just like, what's wrong with you?
Your child will not be able to speak.
And lo and behold, officially, you know, the reports are coming out.
Yeah, children's speech and language is really behind now.
Yeah.
What did you expect?
I mean, kids have been using a mask for two years.
Shocker!
If you wanted to be of a conspiratorial bent, you might say that they are actually trying to create a generation ready to become digital slaves, ready to own nothing in behalf Yeah.
Sit at home, moronically, sort of digesting whatever entertainment Netflix and online has been brainwashed by Big Bird, who's in bed with the World Economic Forum.
And I mean, that's that's it.
There's going to be a it is going to be like Breaking New World, isn't it?
Where the people who aren't born out of test tubes and aren't alphas or whatever are going to be living in this sort of wild zone outside the cities.
Aldous Huxley, I think, was pretty bang on in his predictions.
Well, I mean, it's certainly set a lot of bad precedents.
And you just see it from the left-wing press now.
It's just trickling out.
I saw a long piece in The Atlantic, which was very left-wing, and The New York Times.
And the way they word it is so funny.
It is still very softly, softly.
Like, you know, although effective for, you know, children with really significant speech impediments, the face masks have been difficult to disguise.
And all this stuff, you know, and then they have some poor parent who has to, you know, do the whole apology for the first paragraph.
Now, we're not saying that we're like against COVID, you know, against face masks or against the vaccines or anything.
But, you know, my child that has like a child that literally took two years to be able to say, Two words because his speech was so impeded has now gone back to has now gone back to square one because of the face mask rules.
Now, this is in the United States where the rules were completely like the blue states were obviously terrible.
Absolutely terrible, putting like three-year-olds in face masks and face masks and playgrounds and all this stuff.
But yeah, it's just trickling a little bit out from the left-wing press, but still with major, you know, apologies and, and, and, you know, don't put us in there with the crazy, the crazy lockdown people.
Even though we, we predicted exactly what would happen.
But this, hold on, I'm just going to let the dog in, wait now.
Sorry, it was scratching at the door.
So I was, um, what has been predicted by, by, I mean, there were lots of, lots of, um, podcasts.
I listened to people on our side of the argument.
One of my favorites is, is Cliff High.
He's probably a bit out there for you, but, but, but, Clifford's had predicted some time ago.
I mean, it's very obvious that the mainstream media would render itself increasingly irrelevant in the course of this of this fake, this fake crisis by by not telling the truth, by acting merely as a kind of mouthpiece for the predator class, the powers that be, whatever you want to call them.
And what's happening now is is a sort of damage limitation exercise whereby they are Trickling out just enough information, you know, like, please, you know, we we are we are writing about this stuff.
Look, see, here's a story about that.
These vaccines, these safe and effective vaccines may, on very rare occasions, they may cause cardiac problems with children and they may cause this and they may they're finally they're finally trickling it out.
But it's I mean, we've known about this all the time.
Yes.
It's not like we're kind of information gurus.
No, exactly.
And I mean, it is.
So the big thing that leads on to is obviously people who have died from the vaccine, like officially, not even, you know, where the coroner has said, yes, this is AstraZeneca has killed your husband of 36.
So this brings me on.
The only person who's had these poor bereaved family members on the TV is Mark Stein at GB News.
Have you been watching him?
Mark Stein, he's been brilliant.
Mark Stein, he's come from behind because I don't remember, early on in the crisis, he wasn't really there, I don't think.
But he's just amazing.
So let me, so I have to say, this is where I do my big, my big, I'm a huge fan of Mark Stein and have been for about five years.
So I know he was considered an establishment journalist, I think, back in the day, but that was before my time, if I'm allowed to say that.
So I didn't know who this guy was.
I didn't, I just kind of found him.
And, you know, he does loads of, on his own website, he does this Clubland Q&A.
So I've been listening to him like for, For about five years and stuff.
And you're right in that at the beginning of the lockdown, he wasn't like us.
He certainly wasn't like, lock it down.
He was, I think he was a bit like, well, we don't really know what this is.
Let's see what happens.
Pretty soon afterwards, he was like, however bad COVID is, this lockdown thing is way worse.
Right.
So that was always, that was always his position.
And then he, then he pops up in GB News and I was like, how?
I was like, this is amazing.
I can't believe they've actually let him loose.
Right on the on the, you know, a mainstream media outlet.
So every night for the last few nights, he's had on widows who have lost husbands from the vaccine.
He showed like the House of Commons when Sir Christopher Chope MP brought up the issue in the Commons.
Yes.
Because none of them have even been compensated, you know, which which is needed if you've lost a breadwinner.
And, you know, so he showed the House of Commons completely empty.
For when this one MP is actually like, we need to compensate these people quickly.
And then he showed the House of Commons packed for, this is Stine now, packed for a cork growler case.
You know, we've all got to get in there and talk about the ginger growler.
And he, you know, he's very good.
He's the only person, I mean, he's the only person who I know of the mainstream media who's been talking about it.
Not even, you know, talk TV haven't been talking about it.
And I remember because this will this moves on nicely to the chief collaborator.
So the day Mark Stein had on this poor widow, two widows.
And one who had two boys, a seven-year-old and a one-year-old.
Can you imagine?
Daddy's never coming home, ever.
Because he took a vaccine he didn't even need.
Because he thought he was doing the right thing, right?
And he died from it.
So, Mark Stein has that poor woman on the TV.
And Piers, lock me down harder, Morgan, is doing a hard-hitting interview with Caitlyn Jenner.
With Bruce Jenner.
That's stunning and brave, actually.
Stunning and brave of both Morgan and Katniss.
Yeah, and you're just like, they're, you know, that just sums it up.
You know, Piers Morgan is completely faux.
So, you know, faux.
Oh, I'm going to I'm going to challenge the cancel culture.
You're like, oh, you just you just so mainstream it hurts.
And, you know, let's let's get out Bruce Jenner and have a chat while while some journalist is actually asking the questions that needed to be asked in relation to this to this vaccine.
It just sets the whole thing up.
Isn't it great that Morgan's ratings are really tanking?
I wonder.
I wonder whether because it's interesting, isn't it, that so much of people's viewing habits Are a product of the the size of the channels and their cultural dominance.
So, I mean, there are people on the BBC, many, many people who would never, ever have had careers were it not for the fact that the BBC has given them that you've given them their signature.
I mean, that applies to many deeply unfunny comedians, for example, who just get regular slots, guaranteed promotion to the BBC because they've got the correct the correct politics.
But I think one of the few good things to have emerged from this horror is that I think independent voices like Mark Stein might, you know, that they will get audiences because he gets about 30,000 viewers a night, I'm told.
Which is, which isn't, you know, which isn't bad.
And considering if you, if you look at the amount of advertising that went into Morgan, right, where you can't pass a bloody bus stop.
The only thing that had, basically, no, it was a proportionate amount of advertising as the COVID hysteria got, right.
Look him, look Piers Morgan in the eyes and tell him, you know, tell him you're not watching his show.
Should be the new ad.
Look him in the eyes and tell him you're not eating cake.
The problem with that would involve looking at Piers Morgan in the eyes, which I think would be too much for most people.
Yeah.
Anyway, I mean, a huge, absolutely huge amount of advertising.
In fact, they're still advertising it.
Like huge, huge bits in the Sunday Times.
I realise it's the same owner, you know, Murdoch owns all of it.
But So, I mean, Stein is doing pretty well.
And look, you know, before the BBC, I doubt anybody, a single outlet, be it local radio, never mind Radio 4, have ever had somebody on saying, you know, my husband died of the vaccine.
And by the way, we're not even getting adequately compensated by the system that they have set up that's supposed to compensate us, right?
It's just...
Even though one of their one of their number, Lisa Shaw, was first cases of confirmed vaccine death.
Yeah, that poor woman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think they might have a care for their own, but they don't.
It's all about the narrative.
It's all about the agenda.
And I mean, look, I'm kind of I don't know about you, but when we started doing this Doing this chinwag.
I wasn't nearly nearly as well informed as I am now.
I mean, you know, I was not down the rabbit hole.
I was not I was not fully up to speed on the background to all this stuff.
And I I had no idea, for example, about the having worked in the media, the mainstream media for most of my career, to realize that the purpose of the of the mainstream media is really not to inform.
Yes.
Or even entertain.
It's ultimately primarily about dispensing propaganda for for the elites, for the power, for the powers that be.
And the BBC is might just as well be a branch of the intelligence services, because that's that's really what it does.
It brainwashes the populace.
Same goes for Sky.
The Economist.
I always used to wonder why in my early days I used to see Journalists plucked from the ranks of the Fleet Street newspapers, which I wrote for, and they would get a job on The Economist.
And The Economist paid way, way more for their anonymous articles.
And I thought well these articles are pretty shitty and actually when they write about things I know, for example the environment, it's just absolute bullshit.
So who buys this magazine and how can they afford to pay the journalists so well?
And ultimately it's not because the magazine is so commercially successful that they can command such, you know, they can pay their staff premium rates.
It's because it's ultimately a Rothschild propaganda organ.
That's what it is.
It's high end propaganda to brainwash the heads of corporations and to give them the illusion that they are informed.
It's disgusting.
It's all ideological.
I mean, I think the sad thing is how much the entertainment has become completely ideological You know, now, I mean, I think I think even 10 years ago, you could say, actually, they wanted to entertain.
You could see sort of conservative ideas seeping through despite their best efforts.
But now it's pretty much all ideological methods.
We just cancelled our Disney subscription for obvious reasons.
In fact, I think we were still getting it for free.
Can you believe that?
Like, you cannot even give me Disney for free.
Thanks very much.
So we cancelled that.
But it's all it's all been completely infected.
And of course, yeah, the media is there to push a particular narrative.
And you can see it when they go for these nonsense stories.
Again, even when it's a nonsense story against what we would consider our opposition, you know, I'm still I'm still not interested because it just means you're you're ignoring the massive story, you know, the massive story behind it, such as You know, vaccine damage or whatever it might be, but.
I mean, the thing about the big media is a problem.
But on my one of my breaks, I did I did for what it's worth.
I did start reading and watching a lot of stuff in terms of, I don't know, nutritional nutritional health.
It's linked, though, and just how evil big pharma has been for years, like for decades, for decades and decades.
And how much nonsense they push on people that they you know, people don't need.
And I know that it's true because I'm watching doctors and this has all been on YouTube say, And this has all been recorded pre-COVID.
So, you know, I won't even mention their names because I wouldn't want them sort of saying, yeah, but it's obviously pre-COVID.
There's nothing sort of political about it.
But basically, I'm told that all the money in pharma now is in, I have to get this right, is in like chronic illnesses.
So not acute, you know, long term illnesses.
Not like you've been in a car crash, I now need to save you.
That's that medicine is tiny.
Now it's all about managing long term, you know, which which they've created themselves through childhood vaccination and with the help of the of the food industry, which has been exactly the wrong thing.
Sort of carbohydrates and sugars and refined refined foodstuffs, which without any nutrition in them.
Yes.
And this creates the chronic disease that Big Pharma then is curing.
It's extraordinary, isn't it?
It's a racket.
It's a complete racket.
So after this whole vaccine thing, I kind of said to myself, you know, because I always like to try and be consistent.
And then I made up my mind.
I said to myself, look, Laura, if at all possible, I actually have a thyroid issue.
So I have to take something for that for that.
But I said to myself, if at all possible, you don't want to be reliant on big pharma, you know, as you get older, as much as possible, you know, supposedly now, you know, like the 70% of sort of over 60 take five, five pills are Are a day, right?
Minimum.
So it's a massive racket.
So I've tried to get, you know, stricter on the diet, as you say, you know, they put sugar in absolutely everything.
I have a sweet, sweet tooth.
All this pushing, all this carbohydrates, the government and their, again, the government and their ridiculous food pyramids, you know, they've pushed you to, long before the COVID thing, they'd already pushed you to make bad decisions in terms of let's have a big bowl, let's have a kilo of pasta.
and finish it off with some, you know, sugary drink.
They've already told, they've already made that problem.
And yeah, the diabetes, inflammation, the whole thing is through the roof.
And then big pharma come in conveniently to help you.
And something, for instance, that, you know, is little known and also applied to the COVID thing, is this like number needed to treat thing?
Do you know of this?
No, Chubby.
So they did this with COVID as well, So say you have statins, okay?
Now, viewer, first of all, I'm obviously not giving medical advice.
Big disclaimer.
And two, I'm not 100% sure of these statistics, but it's out there and please Google it.
But say you've got statins.
To stop one heart attack, you need a number needed to treat.
So you need to say 100 people need to take statins for something like five years for you to stop one heart attack.
Yeah.
But the link as well is, and it becomes very clear when you're giving this vaccine to kids, that even the government will say, you need to give out something like a million vaccines to children to stop one ICU admission.
And then the other number you need to be careful with COVID was the absolute risk, you know, and the relative risk.
So when they were saying this is effective in, say, stopping death, you have to know what, you know, the risk, as we know, the risk to an 80 year old with an underlying problem is completely different to the risk to a 40 year old, right?
Without any health problems.
But they basically, they bunched it all together.
You have to be very careful about absolute risk and relative.
Your relative risk, you know, our relative risk for dying from COVID, minuscule, absolutely minuscule.
But they were using a different figure, you know, an absolute figure.
It will save so many lives.
So all I want to say is, I mean, I'm not a statistician, although Jamie Stats, who's on Twitter and people should follow, is a statistician.
You have to be so careful with statistics in relation to what Big Pharma tell you.
You have this with any vaccines at all.
You have to give them to 5000 people to stop one death.
You know, basically, the whole thing to me is a racket.
And also, from a Catholic point of view is a lot of the new vaccines, and I'm not going to name them, but again, it would need to be researched.
And some people won't care.
But for me, I care.
A lot of them are abortion tainted.
So it just, again, it's just a big motivator to say, you don't want to be relying on big pharma.
We've seen what they can do.
They do a tiny bit of good work, right?
There are obviously some medicines that are really... Like where?
Well, you know, there must be.
The big breakthroughs have already been done.
Yeah, I think the only medical treatment that I think is, well, is when you break bones and they go and mend your bones or when, I don't know, I mean, I certainly wouldn't go for...
A few years ago, the BBC did a hit job on me with a really Really dodgy.
You realize how many dodgy characters in the world there are who are over-promoted.
This guy, Sir Paul Nurse, who was Rockefeller Institute Chairman of the Rural Society, President of the Rural Society.
Absolute shill for all these extremely dubious interests.
And he was trying to pin me down about climate change.
And he said, so if a beloved relative of yours was suffering from cancer, would you seek out the The conventional treatment or would you look for alternative remedies?
At the time, I wasn't down the rabbit hole and I probably have thought to myself, well, obviously you'd go and see an oncologist and you do what they say.
No, no, no way now.
I mean, G. Edward Griffin wrote a book about this a while back.
Yeah.
About the truth about about cancer.
Cancer is just one example of those diseases which has been Exploited by Big Pharma to keep people kind of just about alive, having these mega expensive treatments which don't actually work, I don't think, or rather there are much more effective treatments out there which are being suppressed.
Things like vitamin B17, which I think you find in, you find it in apricot kernels and Anyway, look, it's another rabbit hole, but it's worth looking into.
The big pharma has been evil for a very, very long time, as has the food industry.
I mean, you think about Kellogg and the Seventh Day Adventists, you know, who turned us all on to eating these unhealthy, sugary snacks for breakfast, which are exactly the Yeah, well I banned those from the house, as I said, post crazy, you know, losing the baby weight.
I've said to the husband, I've said, if you bring in another box of cornflakes from the Bibb's house, I'm going to put it in the bin.
So it's, you know, the main thing is get your diet in order.
And I have to say that viewers probably aren't expecting this, but again, this cost of living crisis now, it's like they almost want to kill us because, you know, you're hearing them now, you're hearing everybody saying we're cutting the back on meat, right?
God knows that they're going to substitute for it.
And people are going to start buying very low quality foods.
And I'm telling you, I'm like, I am, I'm going to try and keep, you know, until I absolutely get desperate, I'd rather cut back on other stuff.
But I don't want to compromise on like the actual meat that I am feeding my children and myself.
And again, when you're weaning the baby, it really focuses the mind of you with this perfect baby.
You haven't had any food at all.
And you're just, you know, you're just breastfeeding it.
And then you actually have to give it food.
You have to pollute its body.
And I'm like, well, you know, I'm going to try and make it as high standard as I can.
So I have I used to be very cynical about the whole organic free range grass fed stuff.
But now that's that's what I'll try and get if if possible.
The kids keep taking out the organic milk from the fridge and they're like, what's this?
It's the wrong color.
And I'm like, no, no, this is the right color.
The previous stuff we've been drinking that is not supposed to look like that.
This is the right stuff.
So Yeah, it just prompted all that.
But it, you know, it while I was doing all that research, and I kind of like to immerse myself in the subject, again, this stuff about big pharma, again, from these people who are completely they're just doctors and nutritionalists and, and holistic people, not nothing political, give you examples of how these statistics are manipulated, how, you know, our health, both healthcare and the United States and the UK is going to collapse, essentially.
Under the burden of bad food and then big pharma coming in and allegedly, you know, curing your your illness that you've given yourself from eating, eating crappy food and cornflakes.
Throw your cornflakes out.
Throw them out.
Oh, yeah.
No, you said it's almost as if they're trying to kill us.
There's no almost to it.
I know your heart.
Yeah.
Bill Cooper, I think.
I think it's Bill Cooper who writes about this in his Behold a Pale Horse, and he says that after the war, in the baby boom, the elites started panicking because they're all Malthusians, they all believe that the Earth is exceeding its current capacity and that we need to be reduced, which of course is absolutely It's not it's not at all founded this that the planet could could could maintain many more of us in comfort.
But they began to panic.
And that was when they because, you know, everyone was breeding.
You know, the war was over the war that they themselves started, by the way, as they started the First World War, as they started the Russian Revolution, as they started the French Revolution.
You know, I mean, war is good for the elites and they back both sides.
It's how they make their money.
And of course, walls are also good at culling, culling the populace, which is another thing they like doing.
But so after the Second World War, they had organizations like I don't know whether Bilderberg existed then, but but similar organizations like the Committee of 300, the Council for Relation from Relations, et cetera.
So all these sort of shadowy organizations where the incredibly rich meet to parcel up the world and their interests.
They started making plans for depopulation.
I mean, you know, I say these people have got the Rolexes.
They've got the time.
They plan over decades, if not centuries.
Well, we're looking to what's happening next week.
They're planning long term.
They don't care because they're going to their next generation is going to have the money and the one after that's going to have the monies.
So they don't need to worry about things like that.
They they worry about reshaping the world.
And so this has been a long time in the planning.
And you think about it, you think about all those years we spent in the days when we read the Daily Mail, because maybe our mothers read it or whatever.
Articles of red meat gives you cancer.
It really does not give you cancer.
It's an absolute lie.
This is made-up shit designed to steer us away from the very thing that is really healthy.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah, grass fed, grass fed red meat is fine.
If they've been eating the grain, you need to be careful of that.
But no, I know there's always a massive manipulation in relation to all that, all of those meat statistics and that, you know, it'll, it'll triple your or double your rate for cancer.
And you're like, yeah, but again, if your actual cancer risk is 0.1% and it's doubled, it's still a tiny percentage.
You know, you're still, yeah.
Anyway, I know I could go on.
Yeah, skipping breakfast, of course, is another new favourite of mine.
Just skip it all together.
You're not going to die.
Just go straight through to lunch.
Oh, fasting.
Yeah, I like the intermittent fasting.
Something fasting.
Intermittent fasting.
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
It's good.
And it definitely improves your concentration.
Yeah.
I've heard, yeah, I couldn't quite, I'm not ready to go there yet, but I'll tell you what, my sister is on a three month meat only diet.
Just meat.
No, no, wait, wait.
She has, unfortunately, also you have to cut out caffeine and stuff, and booze, obviously.
It's hard, but she feels fantastic.
She's lost loads of weight.
She's been in great.
She's got, you know, she's never had before.
You know, this this is so counterintuitive.
It's counterintuitive because of all the brainwashing we've had over our lives.
We've been told, oh, yes, vegetarianism is the way to go.
It's less inflammatory.
Oh, vegan, ideally.
Yeah.
Vegan, vegan, veganism is a perversion.
It's vegan, but also the vegan thing is, look, I think you can do vegetarian diet well.
I think it struggles to do vegan diet well.
But again, if you notice all the vegan stuff coming out now is all processed.
And if it's processed, it's bad.
You know, it doesn't matter what it is.
If it's using loads of sunflower oil, it's inflammatory.
So I don't care if it doesn't have any meat in it.
It's still bad for you.
So, I mean, good for her.
I mean, the thing is, I think if you're cutting out Simple carbs and simple sugar and sugar.
You're doing well.
And she's obviously cut out all of that.
But it's hard not to have any carbs at all.
I mean, that's that is willpower.
Yeah, well, I wouldn't do that.
Well, I'm about to I'm about to do this because we're conducting an experiment in this household to see whether it will reduce our arthritis.
Yeah, well, arthritis is inflammatory, right?
So you need to... Exactly.
So I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I mean, in some ways, I think maybe we should be eating whatever's going to kill us most quickly, because actually, I'm not sure that what's coming is going to be much fun.
I mean, that's what they want.
Yeah.
I said, well, I said almost.
I mean, obviously, you know, the fact that I'm going for an anti-arthritic diet is a sign that I'm not planning on.
Yes.
But yeah, you're going to prolong the pain.
I think you'll probably agree with me that.
The plans that they have got for us ain't pretty.
Well, I mean, I'm not quite as conspiratorial in that.
I've said to myself, I'm not getting into the prediction game.
They're doing what I know for sure.
And I see reported even the mainstream media is bad enough, you know.
So I will criticise that and I leave it to people like you and others to do the predictions.
And you have to, if you're, you know, you have to predict if you're, and I mean, yeah, look, who knows?
They're also, even their incompetence enough is damaging enough, right?
Just how unbelievably incompetent that they are.
And I mean, to see all, I saw, see Mull Kithouse, I think, was on Sky.
And again, the mainstream media are such collaborators, you know, they're there, If you're talking about great plans and, oh, we're so bad.
We're so sorry about the cost of living crisis.
And I know the inflation is really bad and we're going to do something about it.
And I'm like, really, you're going to get in your time machine and go back in time and not print all the money you used to bribe people to go along with your lockdown.
Is that what you're going to do?
Oh, right.
So you're going to cancel HS2, which is completely unnecessary and it's ravaging the countryside.
You're going to do that.
Right.
And you're going to abandon this net zero policy.
The net zero garbage.
I was on Markstein talking about that last night, James.
I'm telling you, it's very good.
You should watch it.
Yeah.
It's interesting, isn't it, that that even though the arguments against the green nonsense are absolutely compelling, there is no climate change is not a problem.
Yes.
The ice aren't melting in any We need to worry about the polar bears aren't dying.
Every single environmentalist disaster claim in the litany is a lie, a grotesque exaggeration.
And yet still, they are lying to us relentlessly that it is a problem and we've got to deal with it urgently.
And look, here's the policy and it carries on as normal, even though nobody can afford to heat their homes anymore.
And still we're going for this expensive, pointless energy.
That's when you realise that there is... It's when I stop writing articles demonstrating that global warming isn't a problem and demonstrating that the methods used, like wind turbines, are worse than the problem that they're purporting to solve.
Because I realise that these decisions are being made at a level far above the government.
Yeah, no, that I do.
What you say, what you see.
Yeah, it's just like, I mean, literally.
Yeah, it would need people on it, like people really on the streets for that, which you may eventually get because, you know, if people can't heat their home next winter, things could be very, very bad.
But I mean, I did this yesterday.
I wrote about this on the website yesterday and I spoke about it on Markstein and I'm like, You know, isn't it amazing how everything that Greta Thunberg, Saint Greta, wanted us to do is actually happening or not to do with happening?
So you can't afford to fill up your car, your diesel or petrol car anymore, right?
Oh, it didn't, didn't, didn't they all tell us for the last five years, they didn't want you driving.
So how can they?
No journalist ever actually says this to them on the TV.
It's like Boris Johnson in his 10 point Green Plan said, you know, outlawing the purchase of any diesel and petrol car from 2030.
Right.
So why are we surprised now that Christmas has come early for them and the fact that people can't afford to drive their current diesel and petrol cars?
You know what I mean?
You can no longer afford to eat meat.
They have been telling you for 10 years to stop eating meat.
Now you can't afford to eat meat.
Is this a coincidence?
Do you think they're really sorry about this?
You know, you can't afford to heat your home.
They have been telling you for 10 years that they don't really want you heating your home.
Oh, and then the tumble dryer thing, James.
That really gets me.
You cannot get through a lifestyle piece in the newspapers anymore.
Have you not seen it?
Oh, the tumble dryers.
I don't read the papers.
I know.
Well, your wife will.
The tumble dryers are so expensive.
You know, you should stop.
Stop using the tumble dryers.
They're £1.50 a pop.
But the thing is, James, is that it takes.
OK, look, When the weather is nice and you have a nice garden, yes, you can put the clothes out.
But if you live in a flat, right, in the middle of a British winter and you have three kids, you cannot dry everything all around your flat, right?
You have to have the tumble dryer.
Otherwise, your flat will get damp and your kids will get seriously ill.
Right.
But they keep telling you, don't don't use your tumble dryer.
I'm like, well, why bother using our washing machine?
You know what?
We might as well get the ringers out.
I'll just tell you something interesting, Laura.
So my mother rents out her house to lodgers and things.
And the last tenants, who were lovely in every other respect, when she went to inspect, they were very coy about letting her into the house.
They never let her into the house.
When she went in, she discovered why.
And there was black mould all over the walls.
And it was because they'd been drying their clothes in the house and all the kind of damp had seeped into this.
So she had to spend a fortune redecorating.
I mean, I laugh, but also it's a lot more time consuming, just so you know.
If you've got more than two kids, it actually is.
A lot more time consuming than just bunging it in the tumble dryer.
This is the thing, I'm surprised the feminists aren't getting up in arms, right?
Because they'll be telling you, get rid of all your white goods.
But the feminists have conveniently forgotten that that has liberated, you know, a lot of the pain for women in terms of domestic chores.
So they're coming for your tumble dryer now, they'll be coming for your washing machine next.
And then, you know, maybe in a few months time, it'll be the joy of hand washing your dishes.
Right.
Well, you see, you know, don't.
Do you need the dishwasher?
Oh, it's so calming to, you know, wash your dishes by hand.
And actually, sure, the water that's left over, sure, just use that for your bath.
I will.
Yeah, we'll be there.
Also, it'll be.
And do you really need soap?
Yeah.
Soap is damaging to the environment.
Maybe there are better ways.
Maybe get some some mud.
Scrub it.
Yeah, it'll be like they will have us living like we, you know, we used to kind of 200 years.
I'll be fine by Greta.
So again, when the politicians say they're really sorry that you can't drive your car, that you can't fly, that you can't afford to eat meat anymore and can't heat your home, just look at what they told you two years ago.
And that was to not do any of that stuff.
So, Laura, Obviously, I wish every woman in the country thought as you did, because then and every man as well, because then our problems would be over and, you know, we'd be marching on with pitchforks on Whitehall and Downing Street and we'd get rid of these bastards once and for all.
But it's not going to happen because at the moment it's not anyway, because, for example, OK, so a friend of mine who is is on the same page as us, one of her best friends, earlier this year lost her 19 year old boy guess guess guess what he died of uh a blood class yeah or heart problems
and the mother i don't think is blaming the vaccine No, well, because it's too hard.
Because it's too hard to do that.
It must be one of the side effects of this thing called Covid that everyone's been talking about.
And it couldn't possibly be because the medical, your trusted doctor would never give you a jab that you didn't need that could kill you, would they?
I mean, we know that they wouldn't do it.
This is where this is probably most people that they're under the spell.
So how do we wake them up?
So it would require a lot of self-examination.
In terms of what you've done and what you've gone along with for the last two years to kind of turn this tanker around.
Right.
So, for instance, if you if you are, you know, if your savings are being obliterated by inflation, well, if you did spend the lockdown sunning yourself in your garden and while being paid to do nothing instead of on the streets protesting, then that you're partly to blame.
And remember, a lot of people aren't big into the self-examination because there's something to watch on Netflix and That's easier to do that than stay in silence for 30 minutes and really ask yourself, did you go along with this with these lies?
And the media just continue lying to you, lying to your face or gaslighting you, as I like to say.
So it would require a lot of self-examination again from people like the vicar.
I mean, at least you could say the vicar realized eventually what he did was wrong.
Yeah, but I'll bet he'd do it again.
I'll bet the next lockdown he'd act in the same way.
And perhaps all the clapping on the doorstep was a little bit too, kind of, gung-ho.
And as you say, you know, that we were being had by the whole Captain Tom thing.
Looking back on it, it was just a classic piece of... Oh, the Captain Tom was... I know, you really get it.
That's why I said it, because I needed to go.
Oh, yeah.
The daughter, even the daughter thing made it into the mainstream media, you know, how they were handling the charity.
Yeah.
Even the Daily Mail finally got around to covering that.
And so, you know, it's it's, you know, you always think, oh, people will admit that they're wrong.
No, they don't.
Like when the when the wall came down, there are loads of people in Russia who still thought communism was great.
Right, because you're invested in your position.
So to turn around and go, actually, I was wrong, or I was had, or I shouldn't have gone along quite with the same amount of enthusiasm as I did.
You don't have to be as vocal as we are, perhaps.
But the idea that the thing was What they did was, as I always say, proportionate to the threat, was obviously, you know, nonsense.
But you get, I mean, people lock their kids in their room, you know, lock their eight-year-olds in their room, if they had COVID, because Boris told them to.
I know, I know.
What do you do with that?
Oh, what I don't get is why these people didn't understand that it's a bit like there was a common enemy to defeat and the common enemy was the government and its ridiculous regulations and the branches and its enforcers and the police and so on.
So, yeah, people's sole aim should have been a bit like during Prohibition.
Yeah.
Going down to the speakeasy and the equivalent of going to the speakeasy would be not locking your eight-year-old in the bedroom, despite what the government told you.
Not wearing masks, which you know didn't work.
Going to visit your mother.
Yes.
Defying the authorities.
And people just didn't.
Yeah, well I think also, oh yeah, I think a lot of people also just want to move on from it and I can understand that in a way because even looking back at it now, you know, look, obviously some people were less In a much worse position than you and I say, you know, not having access to gardens and things like that, and would have had a much tougher time day in day out.
But I think it was traumatic for a lot of people.
And I definitely think they want to move on.
And they just, you know, if they can go on holiday, go on holiday, you know, before the green looms shut it down completely.
So it's just it's, I don't want to look back kind of thing, let's move forward until this whole cost of living thing really begins to To really eat, eat into their dreams.
I agree.
I think there's a piece in Conservative Woman Today, isn't there?
Precisely this phenomenon where where they want to everyone wants to move on.
And the media does wants to pretend that the last two years never happened.
And there were never these absurd rules, which is why I wanted to mention to you on the podcast, one of the Twitter accounts I follow.
At Charlotte Emma UK, who's been doing this brilliant series.
You must have seen it.
It's got it's got Piers Morgan, Bill Gates, all these TV people.
Yeah.
Obviously, it's got Dr. Schillery, Tony Blair, all these people, all these people shilling for the vaccines, having a go at people who didn't get the shot, et cetera, et cetera.
And we cannot we must never forget these people.
These people should be made.
Well, they are going to burn in hell.
That's obvious.
But I think they ought to suffer in this lifetime as well as an example of No, absolutely.
And I wrote a piece, for what it's worth, I wrote a piece against Pierce Morgan again saying how we should, and I actually think his viewing figures have been hit because people like us could arguably be his natural base, right?
I mean, the left hate him, so they won't watch him anyway.
So his natural bases are more conservative leaning.
But a lot of us are very annoyed about how he went about the lockdown.
So I think that's definitely hurt his viewing figures.
And Andrew Neil was another one.
I mean, he's never going to be let, forget that Reci's Nick, you know, vaccine Reci's Nick piece.
I see it a lot.
And yeah, you know, people shouldn't forget.
And I think it was one thing to support the lockdown, right?
I mean, that I can kind of forgive.
And there are certain people who were kind of measured about it.
But there were certain people who were lustful, right?
And Morgan, obviously, was absolutely chief and centre of that.
And Dr. Chillery, who were just absolutely bananas.
You know, and again, stirring up a lot of hatred against anybody who who took an opposite view to them.
Those guys.
Yeah.
Never forget.
Never forget.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But actually, on that note, I have to look at the time and I have to go and pick up the kids.
You've got to do baby things.
Yeah.
So that was that was all good.
Throw out your cornflakes and skip breakfast.
You don't want any of these chronic diseases.
You don't want to have to big pharma.
Oh, well, I mean, you know, if anyone's eating, if anyone's eating those, it's over.
And Weetabix.
It's all of it.
It's all of them.
I used to like chocolate, which is, of course, pure sugar, isn't it?
Yeah.
But I mean, that's the point.
They get you hooked on it.
Yeah.
No, have an egg instead if you must have breakfast.
But, you know, my advice is power through.
Power through till 11, if you can.
Okay.
Laura, it's been so good having a chinwag with you.
I hope you can do another one soon.
Yes.
I understand you've got, you know, mothering duties, but you're going to delight a lot of people.
So people can read your stuff on the Conservatory.
Yes, I'm able to write a bit more now, happily, mostly.
I might get tired again, you know, it's kind of, it's emotional.
I don't know how you keep going, you keep doing it, but, you know, It's my holy mission.
You put yourself out there, but I did, someone did say, and actually I won't say, I felt a bit guilty.
I just heard it on a podcast and it's true.
And it's like, you know, you don't mind feel like doing it, but there is, you do have to share the load in a way, you know, you got to share the load.
So, you know, you're doing your thing.
So it's not sufficient just to opt out.
Cause then it means you have to do more or you have to take more of the emotional burden, right.
Or whatever other commentators are out there.
Well, we've all got our places.
You know, some of us are at the front of the shield wall and some of us are in the rear.
But yeah, we've all got our part to play.
Well, thank you everyone for listening and watching.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
Laura, thanks a lot.
Okay.
And happy mum-ing.
Okay.
Take it easy, James.
Right.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
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