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April 25, 2022 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Welcome to The Deling Podcast with me, James Deling.
And I know I always say I'm excited about this guest.
And that's a clue.
You know who it is because there's only one guest.
It's Dick.
- I'll listen another time, subscribe with me. - And that's a clue.
Dick.
You know who it is 'cause there's only one guest.
It's Dick.
Dick. - Hello brother, and hello massive audience globally.
Yeah, massive, massive audience.
Blimey.
I mean, I can't see any figures, but I imagine it's just enormous.
It's probably in the millions.
Dick, that T-shirt you're wearing is fantastic.
Where can I get one?
Well, I'm glad you asked, James, because these are hot off the press in a An affiliated South Welsh t-shirt printers because you know I had that trouble with the previous merch where they banned us because we were too controversial.
Well I found via the Third Wednesday Network a sympathetic printers in South Wales and they've done a wonderful job and I've got 80 of these that we will be selling for the first time at your live show.
Like sharkling t-shirts!
Look, according to my Telegram channel, there's over 6,000 sharklings.
So they're going to sell out.
They're going to sell out like hotcakes.
Well, they can be the first kids on the block to have them.
But yeah, this is just as many as I could get done in the limited time available before the show.
So it was... I know.
We were up against time.
There will be more to come.
There'll be more designs.
There'll be more colours.
But these are the first and the best.
Because they're on this nice grey, and I think it's kind of understated, isn't it?
You know, it doesn't, it doesn't... I mean, no, I think it's good, but do you think it would be an act of cruelty to keep that, what's the technical term, is it a colourway?
If I was in the rag trade, would I be talking about a colourway?
Possibly, yeah.
It sounds quite graphic design-y.
I'd use phrases like price point, wouldn't I?
I'm not going to use price point this time.
I'm going to use colourway.
Do you think it would be an act of cruel to keep only 80 t-shirts in that colourway?
And make them limited edition?
Yeah, possibly.
Or would that be cruel?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see how well they go.
The cut looks good.
It's a quality item.
It's a quality item.
As all our merch will be.
It's a quality item.
It's a quality item.
Yeah.
As all our merch will be.
Well, quite.
We like...
We haven't got any other merch, have we?
Apart from...
We've got...
Obviously, special friend badges.
I'm bringing the special friend badges.
I'm bringing these.
I mean, this is quite a quite a bulk as well as you know, it's quite a lot to carry.
So we've got to bear that in mind.
If we're going to become a traveling shop, then, you know, someone's got to do the lugging.
Anyway, they will be there at the show.
Lots of different sizes and cuts.
And yeah, just a little taste of merch to come.
Very exciting.
Do you know what?
I would be really happy if this were possible, Dave.
I would be really happy if never ever ever again in my life I had to listen to the bling of an incoming something or other.
I spend probably half a day every day Searching my computer to try and find the device where you switch off all the kind of... they're called notifications.
And what I find is that... Notifications are horrible.
Yeah.
I never want to hear a notification.
I don't care.
There is nothing so important.
There is no piece of electronic communication that justifies, in my view, having a ping, an intrusive ping, telling me it's arrived.
I can wait.
Yeah, but you know the thing, once you've finally worked out how to turn off all your notifications, you then have to put up with a week's worth of, but I texted you that your dinner was ready, or that your dental appointment was about to be missed, or that the car needed picking up from... all of these things, and they all would have come through as notifications.
So, it's kind of like, you want a magic button that says, only tell me about the shit that I'm interested in, or the really important stuff, because everything else is just...
Meh.
Anyway.
Yeah, I feel your pain.
It says restream.io.
Why is not a single message from audience displaying here?
Does that mean no one's listening?
I don't know what platform we're on.
I don't know how this is going out.
I don't know whether it's live or pre-recorded.
This is your thing.
You and your very clued-up assistant Ben, who does seem to be an all-round genius.
I know.
Ben is... I feel...
Ben is actually producing the show and Ben actually is, Ben is way more Christian than we are.
He makes us look like basically Satanist, Ben is so Christian.
He won't even drink tea or coffee.
No, but he's true.
Because Ben is a Mormon, he doesn't drink tea or coffee and he's just amazingly pure.
I mean he's a kind of model and he's got total integrity and He's a genius.
And I feel guilty about making work on a Sunday.
I mean, I don't know what the deal is about if you're a Mormon, you're probably not meant to do work on Sunday.
I'll ask Ben afterwards.
But anyway, thank you, Ben.
I really appreciate it.
Corrupting Christians, that's not very good, brother.
That's all kinds of wrong.
Oh dear!
Have you listened to my new podcast yet?
No, because this was going to be one of the topics.
We often cover how wonderful your previous podcasts are, and I've only just watched James Corbyn, so that's how far behind I am.
Now sometimes I'm at work, I can listen to your stuff.
Other times it's rude to put your headphones on and ignore the other people in the room.
So that's the state I've been in lately and I'm way, way behind.
Way behind you on your London callings.
So I'm way behind on my irreverence and all the other things I like to listen to.
So yeah, sorry about that.
You'll have to clue me up as to what's been going on.
Well I'm not, it's not going to be much use me talking about the podcast you haven't listened to so maybe we'll have to save that.
You can in a way, you can say that so-and-so is amazing and he has a really good line on XYZ.
Okay well my two recent ones, Zuby, who I've been trying to get Zuby on and off for three years.
I mean like when I first tried to get Zuby it was before Before we went down the rabbit hole.
So it would have been the Normie podcast had I done it back then we'd have talked.
I don't know.
I don't know what Normies talk about anymore.
It's it's it's it's as if it's do you not find that it's like another life.
It's a past life that one can't understand.
This is why this is why I know I keep harking on about third Wednesday, but this is why when you turn up to a third Wednesday, you don't have to cut through the crap of sounding people out on their views on things.
They know that You know that they're not normies and it is terribly difficult to talk to normies.
You find yourself in the most bland of small talk and it's just so inconsequential.
I'm just sorry to mention this, but when you speak, it's like having a Dalek in the background.
Every time there's this feedback and crackle, and I don't know whether this is a restream thing or whether everyone else is getting it or not.
I just want to... I wouldn't worry.
Is there an adjustment you can make on your microphone?
Will that make no difference?
I can click on settings here and go audio.
I'm on default at the moment.
I've got noise suppression on and I've got echo cancellation on.
So I would guess going with the default is probably the best.
Have you not got a microphone?
No, only the one in my ear.
It's certainly fine until now.
Yeah, but I'm going to have to... Here, I can talk.
Yeah, there's somebody called Anthony Mitchell saying can't find live stream.
I don't know how to send him.
This is the problem about these new ventures, isn't it?
We're just having a clue what's going on.
Also, the tech is moving so fast that every other week there's a new way of doing this.
Yeah, but this is what... Hang on, I was going to put Ben.
Is anyone listening?
Oh!
No, he says about 100 people watching currently.
Sorry 100 people for putting you through this.
And haven't you got anything better to be doing on a Sunday?
I know.
You know what?
So in order to get back In time, because I knew you'd bollock.
I knew if I said Dick, can we move it to half past, you'd have been crossed.
Because you do this weird thing.
I was going to ask you to move it forward.
So yeah, that would have caused meltdown.
For me and my cooking.
Exactly, exactly.
Because you do a weird thing, don't you?
Where you... You've got this weird tradition where you cook your Sunday, what do you call it?
Dinner.
I suppose I do call it dinner.
I've never been quite sure which is the correct word.
Well, no, because... You do this weird thing, I don't know where it came from, where you eat your Sunday dinner at... About five.
Six.
Yeah, about five or six.
And you have a kind of roast, a sort of vegan nut roast.
Well, I've got a pie minister.
You're outing him.
And you don't have breakfast?
No, we have a big fried breakfast.
There!
Did you hear that?
What?
Did you hear the notification?
No.
No, it was a notification.
I hate it!
No, I didn't get it.
It's just rude.
Apart from anything else, I hate the person, and it's so wrong, I know, and it's among other things.
And it's not their fault.
I hate the person who's... it's not their fault.
But we know now, and now we're down the rabbit hole, that all technology is there to destroy us, to weaken us, to control us, and punish us, and to zap our will to live.
And it's very effective, I must say.
It's really working for me.
No, they've done a bang-up job on that one, definitely.
So, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, shall we talk about... Apart from outing your weird dietary habits, what... Yeah.
Tell me.
Yeah, talk about what you... I can freewheel, Dick.
I can ad-lib.
Yeah.
We should definitely talk majorly about what we do.
Can I tell you something?
I don't prepare for my podcast.
No, it doesn't show at all.
And on the other hand I do and I've got notes.
Good.
Okay.
No, okay.
I will just tell you about what I'm excited about.
This time last week, I will confess, I was absolutely shit on.
I had a really horrible, horrible week.
And it became really upsetting.
Do you know how?
The upsetting thing that happened to me, which contributed to my sad mood, which has haunted me all week.
Go on.
Did I tell you about the Jackdaw?
No.
So there were these jackdaws that come down our chimney, as jackdaws do.
They find their way down.
And even though we had the chimney blocked, supposedly, but not.
Well done, Lee.
The jacked doors make their way down the chimney into the sitting room and I went in there and there was a jacked door flapping around like desperately trying to get out and so I walked into the room to the sort of the far side of the room in order to give the jacked door a clear way through the door and out into the garden.
But instead the jackdaw decided to fly really fast and hard into the walls and into the shutters and into the windows.
Oh no!
And it knocked itself out and I thought well that's good at least I can pick it up now and release it and I cradled it in my hands and stroked its feathers.
I could see its eye.
It was black with a white dot in the middle.
You don't normally get that close up.
Its tongue was doing something weird.
It had an articulated tongue.
It was moving backwards.
I thought, this doesn't look good.
And anyway it died in my my hands and I was I was really upset about it.
I mean I suppose it's an odd thing to feel given that I shoot birds but I shoot them to eat them and I don't like seeing a bird kind of accidentally commit suicide and I wanted that jackdaw to live and it didn't so that kind of made me sad.
But the other was What I kind of hadn't realised about organising an event like this, or rather getting Ben to organise an event like this, is that even when you've got Ben there, it's much, much harder than you think.
You think, oh sod it, the seats are going to sell themselves and everyone's going to want to come because they're sharklings and it's going to be great and who in their right minds would not want to come?
But actually, it doesn't work like that, because people have got things to do.
I mean, the spirit may be willing, but the flesh may be weak.
They may have, they may be, I mean, it's a bank holiday weekend, they may be going somewhere else, they may not want to go to London, which I can totally understand, or whatever, any number of reasons.
And You've really got to promote the hell out of these events.
You've got to be much more together than I'm capable of.
And even when you've got Ben doing it, it's still... So I was starting to panic.
I was thinking, what if... People aren't going to come.
People aren't going to be buying tickets.
Anyway...
And also, I think the other thing that happens is that people are quite fickle.
They sit on the fence like, is it going to be a washout or is it going to be a great success?
And they sort of hold back because no one wants to be associated with failure, even if they're just a kind of...
Anyway, we've now reached the point where my fear has gone, where actually it's going to be a great success.
We're going to have a very good crowd.
I haven't sold out yet but it's got past the stage of buy a ticket because you love James and you feel sorry for him and you kind of want to see, you know, and it's got to a stage where you'd be mad to miss out.
Because everyone's everyone's going to be there.
I mean, lots of lots of the sort of the kind of the the slab element of our of our sharking crowd.
You know, I think I think the threads are coming.
I think.
Oh, fantastic.
You know, laws is going to laws is going to be there.
And it's kind of like that's the sign that that that it's going to be a hit, which I'm really excited about, obviously.
Because, you know, I can always fake it.
I can always pretend.
The London element it's tricky for the likes of us who no longer live in London but you forget how how useful it is for those who do which is you know quite a quite a big percentage of our of our following so yeah it it's gonna be a big thing for me to come I hate coming down to London these days but I hate and you know what oh you and I are probably gonna
Well, I hope you've organised something, otherwise we're on the street.
Neither, but at least I've never been bothered by them.
Okay, because there was a terrible incident once when I went... I've been to Dublin twice to do speaker events, so I don't think they'd invite me back now, and actually in a way it's sensible because Dublin is so completely over.
When did you last go to Dublin?
Oh gosh, it's got to be 20 years at least.
It was when I was at art college in Belfast.
Okay, so you saw Dublin when it was Irish and when it was still into its Irish traditions and it wasn't embarrassed by its Irish heritage and so on.
When I hung out with the Hells Angels.
Okay, yes that's right.
Yes, well that's a thing you can do I suppose if you're in Dublin.
It's become this generic Euro town.
I mean, did you see that video of the person of presumably African extraction wandering naked down O'Connell Street?
I mean, this is the kind of stuff they have to put up with now.
It's really bad.
It's being used as a sort of experiment for the clergy plan, you know, a testing ground for the clergy plan, the kind of complete eradication, not the eradication, but the extreme dilution of the native population with immigrants.
And it's like, We don't consider you Ireland you are just this this island on which we are going to dump the world's populace and it's like a it's going to be a melting pot whether you like it or not and and fuck you and that's and that's what's happening in Ireland.
While we're telling you this oh yes that's right so so I I had a great time you know because the the original Dubliners are still lovely and I like the Irish they're entertaining the crack and all that And so I had a few Guinnesses and you know Irish Guinness.
I mean you know how lethal it is when you have five pints.
I mean it's not like having English Guinness.
Five is unthinkable to me.
Yeah, okay.
So I had five pints of Guinness and as happens my bottom fell out and unfortunately I was I was sharing a room with your nephew and he's been on this thing sometime and he says, and I believe him, it was the worst night of his life.
I was farting constantly and it was just awful.
It's like really bad.
I think he's going to be so traumatised By experiences that I've inflicted on.
Because you remember the other experience where Grandpa, our father, where I gave him some hash chocolate to try?
Yes.
And even though he had only half a square each.
You nearly killed Grandpa.
He was we were both about as stoned as I'd ever been and he was he was he was persuading himself that that he hadn't that he wasn't stoned and I could see that he was and it was stealth stone you know one minute you think you're normal and then suddenly you are absolutely wankered and and The wife suggested we went outside to walk the dog, thinking it would clear our heads, but it didn't work.
He just collapsed giggling on the grass outside and we had to go and get Boy.
I had to rush into the house and say, Boy, your grandfather's outside and he's off his face on dope.
And I think, as I said to him at the time, things that you are not meant to see as a young man and one of them is your grandfather off his face on weed, collapsed on the ground and you're having to drag him into the house.
It's just not, it's traumatising isn't it?
But I guess that's... Yeah, it's certainly not something you'll ever have to see but it's something you, yeah, passes into family legend doesn't it?
Yeah, it does.
Hey, by the way, am I currently moving?
Because my screen, I'm showing a still picture taken some time ago.
Oh, I can see you moving.
Okay, right.
The picture of me is just... I've got my eyes closed.
No, well, OK, we're in the same boat then.
As long as people see us moving and because I'm not seeing myself moving at the moment.
But I assure you, viewers and listeners, that I am.
Back to your worried about selling your tickets thing.
Can I just tell you about my three weeks around your show?
Tell us both of them, Dick.
One of them was Yuri Bezmenov's ghost.
Yuri Bezmenov's ghost.
You know, you've met him.
Well, it's a Python thing.
Yuri Bezmenovskos, you know, you've met him.
He's a friend IRL.
And he's put on a party.
A similar sort of thing.
And he's got all guests, all our regular friends.
And this thing is on the 14th of May.
And he's hired a hotel and a conference center and all of this stuff.
And he went through everything that you were describing.
The sort of like, oh my God, I've committed this thing.
It's going to cost me a fortune.
Is anyone going to come?
Now, he's not even a particularly big name.
But he, over the weeks, pushing it and talking about it and bigging it up and getting that all-important momentum where people start talking about going and saying, yeah, yeah, I'm going to go to this.
I'm buying tickets.
Then you're in the clear.
You hit that point, the sweet spot, where you've broken even.
And from then on, it's all, well, not plain sailing, but it's a really important break point.
And you stop worrying about, I'm having a party and no one's coming.
What was I thinking?
This is a brilliant idea.
It's going to be fantastic.
I can't wait.
Yes.
So I can't go to your show.
Yeah.
But what I have got, I've got Irreverent doing the same thing in a week or so's time.
So I'm down to hang out with Jamie Franklin and the gang in Spitalfields.
I think their show has now sold out, but I'm a guest on their show to talk about Thursday Circle, which is going to be fantastic.
I'm really looking forward to going down to that.
I didn't even know about Jamie's show, but I'm glad he's doing it.
No, it's a good move on his part.
I mean, he's incredibly popular now.
You still there?
Well, also, I think it's really important because... Yeah, I'm here.
Are you there?
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Can you hear me?
We're not getting any... Tony, can you hear me?
More obscure references.
Well, not that obscure.
There's a clue in the name.
Now, what was I going to say to you?
About Jamie?
Yes, I like the idea of Jamie.
I hope he makes money out of it because, my goodness, the Church of England clerics, he's not even a vicar yet, is he?
If they ever are.
They get paid so badly and I suppose there would have been a time where I thought well yeah well it serves you right for kind of choosing this dead-end career.
Whereas now I think that actually it's a really... I quite like being a vicar.
I've been through this lately as well.
I'd love to be a vicar.
I'd love to wear all that stuff.
I don't want to go through the training and I don't want to be attached to a church.
But I'd like to wear the kit and go around and be holy and bless people.
The thing is Dick, we'd be really good at it.
We'd be like, obviously it would have to be a rural parish.
I couldn't be doing with a, can you imagine the ghastliness of having to do a
I mean I quite like that series with Tom Hollander and stuff and you know have sort of eccentric kind of people coming into your church and all that but I really I think the country needs us and I would like obviously we would have a service where we bless the hunt every year and and there would be well you couldn't you don't have a meet on a Sunday but but obviously I would be a hunting person like something out of Trollope
That would be really good, wouldn't it?
Our friend Richard, Father Richard, went into his local pub the other day to remonstrate with them gently about the fact that on their board outside the pub they had advertised an event for Easter Friday and he went into
to gently take the piss out of them for not calling it Good Friday and whilst in the pub he must have been in his clerical gear or something like that it must have been straight after a service but he was accosted by some newcomers to the village who are in in the pub who wanted to know all about the church and he ended up having to bless the pub For all the people in there.
Now, this is the fun you can have if you're a recognizable vicar in places where you're not expected to be.
And I think there's a lot of mileage in getting the church out of the church.
And this is why things like podcast live version of Irreverent will be an absolute hit because people are put off the church.
And quite rightly so.
They don't want Black Lives Matter and Doing your hands as you go in and face masks and you know, even communion now, they've done away with the blood of Christ.
It's just body of Christ.
No, it the whole thing is so heavily compromised.
Yeah.
I had the soggy wafer of Christ.
So you the wafer dipped in the it's not the same.
In fact, is that how they're getting around it?
Oh exactly how they're getting around the blood body of Christ the blood of Christ you now get the the body and blood of Christ I mean what kind of formula is that um it's so um I always used to like the fact in our in our church we've got this sixty seven I think seven certainly 17th century communion cup silver
And you're thinking, as you sip from it, you're thinking, wow, people have been taking communion with this cup for, do the maths for me, four centuries.
How amazing is that?
And also, I always like the thing about like, yeah, I'm sharing the spittle and if we don't believe in terrain theory.
I'm sharing all the germs of people and I don't care because this is part of the experience and it's cool.
And now all that's gone out the window and it's like... All in a matter of weeks.
Overturned.
Centuries of No one actually dying from taking Holy Communion, to if you don't sanitize your hands on the way in, and if you don't keep your distance from the rest of the congregation, and you know, you mustn't take Communion.
All in a matter of weeks, and this is why we don't like the Church, because they were so ready to fold on all of these issues, and they didn't put up The remotest hint of a fight.
And this is why the church needs to move out of the church and then go back in and reclaim it one day.
And that will be a wonderful day when we have our church back.
We've talked about this before, haven't we?
That what we're doing is going back to the days of the early church.
As it was meant to be, probably.
And it's no bad thing.
It's back to grassroots.
I was this is one of these I was talking to my most recent podcast guest Terry Boardman about about that I'm keen to be a good Christian but I can't really work out quite what the deal is because okay so
You'd think the answer would be to go and ask a priest, you know, because he'll know it's his job.
But actually, you think about what we've learned about the medical establishment in the last two years, we've realized that doctors have not a clue.
They are just pill dispensing machines in the service of Big Pharma.
They cannot think for themselves.
The information they have been given and have imbibed and take totally on trust is essentially satanic propaganda from the Rockefellers.
And Rockefeller was a servant of Of the devil.
So everything about the medical industry is just corrupt.
It does the opposite of what it's supposed to do.
We're fed poison by the food industry.
We are poisoned by the pharmaceutical industry.
Our doctors prescribe this shit, which is not good for us, which actually makes us worse.
So that's just one example of the politicians.
They are just corrupt, self-serving, and they're not interested.
They're not our representatives at all.
They're just scum, basically.
And so on it goes.
And you think the kind of people that are drawn to being in the Church of England these days, I mean, Jamie Franklin is a very rare exception.
Most of them are kind of transgender people who think God is kind of optional.
And you see where I'm going with this.
Calvin Robinson is getting a lot of grief.
Have you read about that?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He is the only one coming out of his cohort who isn't being...
It bloody does.
Yeah.
So, you know, even if the good people who we know would do a fantastic job as clergymen, they are being held back because one of the things they said about Calvin, he doesn't believe that there's systemic racism within the Church of England or something like that.
And we're talking about, expectively, a person of color, as they like to call them.
And it's a beggar's belief.
It's beyond power.
When he gets to the Pearly Gates and St Peter checks in his book, he says, Calvin Robinson, you did not believe in systemic racism.
You are going straight to hell.
But I'm black.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Satan will unspool your guts on a wheel.
Yeah, yeah, that's what it's going to be like.
It's going to be, it's poor Calvin.
Because he didn't believe in systemic racism.
Yeah, I know.
It's, it's...
So, okay, even though I said I wouldn't talk about it, you haven't listened to it.
One of the things I talked about, this guy Terry Boardman, yeah?
He was recommended to me by Alex Thompson.
And Terry is really bright and really kind of schooled in a manner of mystical stuff and is familiar with the history of the church.
And he told me, for example, we go on to the subject of reincarnation.
And as you know, our friend Jonathan Myles-Lee, who was a Christian, nevertheless remembered at least one of his previous lives and was absolutely convinced he was a child who died at the age of 11, I think, in South India and remembered the sheets that he slept under and remembered his mother's sari and all that.
And I was thinking, how do you reconcile this stuff with Christianity?
You don't hear much about reincarnation, do you?
But Terry told me that This goes back to at least the 9th century when the church elders met in somewhere or other to decide which elements of dogma were acceptable and which were unacceptable.
A lot of the stuff that might have been understood by the people in the early church were written out for political reasons later on.
It was all to do with control.
I mean one of the obvious reasons that the Catholic Church particularly wanted to knock the idea of reincarnation on the head is because they want people to believe there's only one life and if they get it wrong they are toast and toast for the devil and therefore you must live a really good life and you must do what you're told and so on.
So you see where I'm going with this?
It's very very hard to work out what is the truth.
What is settled and what you are allowed to argue about because every faith, I mean the Jews are really big on this aren't they?
They love debating minute elements of what they're supposed to believe in and what is doctrine and what is not and what is still open to debate.
They do it a heck of a lot, and it's all the better for it to know that you haven't got all the answers written down.
Because again, talking to Richard about this, he said that even, and this is probably heretical, but even the Bible was only what they assembled at the time, and stuff that has been discovered since, like in the Dead Sea Scrolls, could well have ended up being part of it.
So it's kind of like, I know the Bible is meant to be the be-all and end-all, but it's kind of not.
But is it?
I think it's not, because people talk about the books that explain a lot that were We're missed out.
I mean, actually, we've got to be careful here because neither of us really has a clue what we're talking about.
No, but the fact that we know that we're straying into dangerous territory and this still can be discussed.
But I'm quite happy to be put straight on the things that are absolutely verboten and those that are still open for conversation.
You know, one of them being purgatory, for instance.
I mean, are the Catholics right?
Yes, that's a good one.
So, you know, it is still there and you can talk about it, which is good.
I don't believe in purgatory, do you?
Well, the argument for it should be that what if you just missed out on heaven?
Or what if you just scraped into heaven?
You didn't get the grains, you just flunked one of the papers.
Like going to Durham.
But, um, it's... that's one for your boy.
And girl.
Yeah, I don't... I think being rejected by Oxford now, or Cambridge, is a bad omen, isn't it?
No, absolutely.
I would hate for my kids to have done that.
Dick, Cambridge University Conservative Association has invited me to speak.
Do I say yes or no?
I mean, I'm not even a Conservative anymore.
And I've been shut on by students so many times.
Well, you're clearly there as a figure of hate, but as long as you go there with your eyes open and you know that you're going to have to gird your loins, you'll probably enjoy it.
But just don't go under any illusion that it's going to be like it used to be.
You mean go along for a miserable experience?
No, but you won't have a miserable experience if you expect one, will you?
I suppose so.
If we could read the messages that everyone's writing, which obviously they're not writing, presumably because there's this sort of thing, we could have people saying, yes, go, James, or no, no, James, don't go.
Oh, tell you what you must not go and see, Dick.
What mustn't I go and see?
You must not go and see The North Man.
Oh, really?
That looks good.
Well, I've seen trailers for it.
Yeah, look good.
I couldn't.
Yeah, exactly.
It's the kind of thing that looks really good on the trailers because you see lots of people being disemboweled in in the head and swords.
One thing.
Yeah, hot chicks in leather.
Okay.
So there's some things it's got going for it.
One is no diversity casting.
Oh good.
Because you know these days that in order to get an Oscar or an Academy Award that there's got to be a certain percentage of black, disabled, lesbians on the production team.
Which is great when they're Vikings.
It's just so annoying.
It really is.
How many black Vikings were there?
I think probably you could.
No, I mean, you could have a sawmiller's hand, could you?
So, so it didn't it didn't do that, which I thought was to its credit.
But that was that was basically it's just like two hours of of misery and just I mean you get you kill for what it would have been like living in the 9th century and it would have been shit basically just like either you either you were a killer Or you're a slave.
I don't think there were there were really many options in between.
It couldn't be like, I want to be a painter.
I want to express myself artistically.
No, you just it wouldn't happen.
Yeah.
Okay, maybe you may I suppose maybe you could become a monk, but then you became a monk, you'd end up being probably blotted by Vikings on Lindisfarne.
To nick your communion cup.
Yeah, exactly.
Except, have you thought about this, Dick?
About which we've all been there in our ancestors.
I mean, somewhere down the line, I was talking to the forum the other day, that we're descended from people who have actually participated in a shield war, aren't we?
Wow, that's a good thought.
It's impossible that... Have you thought about that?
No, I haven't thought about that.
And I wonder... That's quite a specific thing to go back to, isn't it?
My reincarnation thing.
You know how one gets like you and I are or have been obsessed with what it was like you know to fight in a battle and we or we we imagine scenarios where we got eaten by a shark or a crocodile or all manner of stuff but somewhere down the line People in our past have experienced these things.
And I wonder whether somehow this stuff filters into our own consciousness.
This is actually what we've lived already.
What do you think?
Which is, which would explain why we've got such an obsession for something that is effectively irrelevant to our lives.
I mean, my, obviously you can see all the stuff behind me.
It's an unhealthy obsession with war.
But yeah, go back just a few generations.
Yeah, if you say, we'd have been in a shield war, we'll have been under musket fire in the polionic wars.
We've been through it all.
Yeah, it's a very good theory.
Do you think we'd have been nuns?
We wouldn't have had any children, so how could you be descended from a nun?
Unless perhaps she was raped by Vikings and she decided to keep the child.
Yeah, I mean, we don't know enough about the life of nuns and how they ended up as nuns and what they got up to, do we?
So, yeah, who knows?
No, we do.
Yeah, no, come on, I provided you with the answer then.
Nuns are supposed to be virginals, but if they got raped by a Viking and had the child, then that's how we'd be descended from them.
Anyway, look, Edward III, you know we're all descended from Edward III, don't you?
What?
All of us?
All of us, yes.
I mean, well, I mean, I imagine that, that probably Chinese people are not descended from Edward III, but generally everyone of, everyone, pretty much everyone of sort of white English American heritage is almost, whatever, is almost certainly descended from Edward III.
And this is not, this is not, this is not because we're all, this is, Well, it's a simple fact of, if you go far enough back in history, we're all descended from everyone.
I mean, you know, there's obviously the Genghis Khan thing.
I mean, Genghis Khan raped so many people that everyone's descended from Genghis Khan, I think.
But I think the same applies, I can't remember what Edward III's dates are, but he's far enough back for us.
So we've all got a piece of him.
Right.
If you get Yeah, so and Edward III wasn't that far back, was he?
I mean, what are we talking?
You see, I know all my Kings and Queens dates, but under the pressure of podcasts, I can't remember when it is.
So Edward III, so that means we're probably all descended from everyone before that.
So we'll be descended from William and from Harold and from You know and probably from Babylonian Kings and and obviously 1387 until 1377.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
So in Chronicles is this where I've got to in the Old Testament about David's mighty men and so David had these really good warriors.
Fighting for him.
And it's possible they were giants.
I'm not sure.
It's not totally clear what mighty men were, but they get named and listed.
And he's got, you know, they achieve prodigious things in battles.
And I was reading this stuff, and it's just like, blah-de-blah, you know, Mishalok, son of blah-de-blah, the weirdy-ite, or whatever.
You know, I mean, I'm making up these names.
I can tell.
But you get the full gamut of strange names.
Yeah.
And I was thinking, I was tempted to skip over, and I was thinking, hang on a second, don't skip over these names, because These were real people.
They didn't just make up these names.
These actually existed one day and they did amazing things.
And one of them could be your ancestor.
I mean, maybe not if they were giants.
What do you think?
Do you think we could be descended from the mighty men of David?
Presumably, Goliath was... I don't expect you to give me a definitive answer.
...a mighty man.
Yes, he was.
He was a giant.
The thing is... Yeah.
So you know about... I know about the giant thing.
There were loads of giants in the past.
Yeah.
And the Smithsonian hid the skeletons.
Yeah, yeah.
Because this is... it's like...
One of the reasons I don't want to get offed by the cabal is because I'd rather feel that I've got so much to, so much to unlearn, so much false history to unlearn, so much real history to find out about.
Like the Giants, that's an obvious one, like who really runs the world, you know.
Where the power really lies and obviously how we win this one.
How do we win?
I mean apart from obviously God helping us, you know, making it happen.
Maybe that's just the answer, we just let God deal with it.
You don't just let him though, do you?
You've got to Be there doing the right things, ready for him to help you.
You can't just sit back and wait for the help.
I don't know.
We've got to be out there fighting.
Oh, well, I don't know.
You see, I'm not sure.
I've learned Proverbs 3, and it says, Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Be not wise in thine own eyes, fear the Lord, and depart from evil.
All right, do that, and maybe that's it, you know, just like, sorted.
So in other words, don't think too much, just kind of, I mean, it might work.
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand, but it shall not come nigh thee.
Have you finished it?
I'm halfway through.
I try to get another line in every few days and I recite them to myself as I'm doing my exercises and what have you.
I do this thing when I'm on my back and I have to lift my legs, yeah?
You know that exercise?
Lifting your feet straight?
I try to do that for the time it takes me to do what I know so far from Psalm 91.
It's an incentive to get through it.
How one incorporates these things into one's exercise routine.
There's another psalm that I use for my cold shower.
So I have a cold shower for the length of that psalm.
I don't want to make myself hate them by doing unpleasant things while I'm reciting them.
So I try to keep it...
What, you don't end up hating them?
No, you don't.
No, no.
I think, because they're literature and they're sort of, they're powerful incantations and they protect you.
I think, the only thing that bothers me is, am I disrespecting them?
But actually... Yeah, that thought crossed my mind.
You know, exorcists and people say that Yeah, this sounds like one of those pub conversations.
I heard they're right, right, this exercise.
I reckon right.
What they say is that I reckon right.
But apparently, apparently, I've heard that it doesn't matter whether you are sincere and mindful when you say your prayers, whether you're just just saying the words, but they still have power.
Well, your mate Gavin Ashenden says this, doesn't he?
He says you can race through the Lord's Prayer, you can linger on every word and make it last half an hour.
It's all much of a muchness.
And, you know, funnily enough, I feel different each time I say these things to myself.
You always come out feeling slightly different at the end of it.
But that's enough for me.
You do!
There is definitely magic in those words.
Just by reciting them, you come out feeling better and different and transformed slightly.
So, you know, whatever is going on, it's working, for sure.
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
It's really good.
It's like magic, but it's not magic.
We're not supposed to call it magic.
That's something I've learned.
It's holy magic, which is a different thing.
To the normies, to explain it, it's too useful a word to ignore, the word magic.
It explains it to normies, but I know technically that's not what we're talking about.
No, although what it makes you realise is that, like, everything is binary, isn't it?
Everything has its opposite.
And so, you know, good and evil, God and Satan or whatever.
And, If only stuff works, which it does, that must mean that dark magic works too.
You can see the attraction for the followers of the other side.
I mean, if they do sacrifice children and stuff, they will get stuff that they want happening to them.
Which is...
What were you going to say?
I was going to say... You weren't going to say you were about to sacrifice a child, were you?
No, no, no.
It was a bit of a tangent.
You mentioned Alex Thompson and wasn't it lovely that thing he said about using... What was it?
Using the Lord as my shepherd to measure land in the early settlers in Canada.
Is that right?
That's right.
Psalm 26 is the time it takes them to... That's right, yeah. 23.
23.
23?
Yeah, that they'd measure out that part of land by saying that.
So yeah, our forebears have used these things in the same way that we are, as a way of measuring time, knowing that it takes a certain amount of time to recite.
Alex Thompson fills me with a lot of joy because he's such an intelligent guy.
Yes, no, he's really good.
We could do a show with him every week.
I mean, there's quite a few guests like that we could do a show with every week.
But he's one of those people that reassures me.
Yeah, that would be lovely, wouldn't it?
That he's one of those guys that, when I have my doubts about faith, which, you know, we all do sometimes, you think, well, if someone as intelligent as Alex Thompson is a committed Christian, and, you know, it kind of gives you reassurance that you're on the right side.
And there's many more like him that are of equal stature that make you think, yeah, you know, we're on to something here.
Just a thought.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I think I said I was going to do it in just an hour.
We'll probably just do an hour.
My food is... Yeah, your nut roast.
Is it a nut roast?
Is it a nut roast?
It's a corn roast the other two are having and I'm having a pie minister moo blue pie to myself so I am getting I am getting my meat content and it's it's going to be lovely.
You've got to do that.
And Yorkshire pudding and gravy and all that sort of stuff so it's going to be nice.
Yeah that's bad Dick, that's bad stuff.
Mmm.
I know, but it's also good.
You've got refined flour and yeah.
I think we should just be eating meat all the time.
We've got friends who do and who swear by it.
I'll see you.
I'm gonna see you next Friday.
We'll talk another time about arrangements for Friday.
Yeah.
We've got to make arrangements.
And I'll try not to drink any Guinness before that evening.
Yeah.
And yeah.
Exactly.
Well, hopefully we'll see a lot of the people watching right now.
It's going to be a gathering of the clowns.
It's going to be really exciting.
And what must they do, James, if they want to buy tickets?
sorry for me you should come because what do they do to buy tickets I imagine that Ben will probably put the detail they're floating up on the screen as well Tickets on James' social media, it says.
There's a little thing at the top of the screen here as well.
I'm sure you can click on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is the sort of thing we should be doing.
We should be directing people to click on things.
Definitely.
Yes.
Right, I'm going to go and cook.
I'm going to go and plant some potatoes.
Yeah, yeah, everyone... Okay.
Oh, are you planting them in tubs or are you going to put them in the ground?
I want to grow potatoes in tubs.
I'm going to dig a five inch trench.
All right, okay.
I've heard tubs is the way ahead, but a discussion for another day.
I don't know what we're going to dig.
We're going to have to, we're going to have, that's the whole other, it's not even a rabbit hole, it's just kind of reality.
Well, it's a rabbit hole.
Potato hole.
But how are we going to, how are we, how are we going to survive?
How are we going to survive the coming, which is imminent?
Yep.
Yep.
That's much on my mind.
That's a cheery note to leave on.
But that's for another time.
Okay.
Look forward to that.
Isn't it?
Happy Sunday everyone.
Enjoy your food while you can because it's going to be like halodomor.
You'll be trying to eat insects because that's all that's going to be left.
Good.
Alright then.
Hooray!
How do I stop this?
Happy Sunday everyone.
Hooray!
Right, I'll see everyone on Friday.
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