Welcome to The Deling Pod with me, James Delingpole, and I know I always say I'm excited about this week's special guest, but I really, really am.
Dr Christiane Northrup is one of my most requested guests, and I think you're going to answer a few of the questions, not so much on our lips of the regular listeners, but
All those relatives we've got, all those friends who are convinced that vaccines are the way forward, and that not only that, but that if they hadn't had the vaccine when they get COVID, it would have been much, much worse if they hadn't had the vaccine.
But I don't do, if you listen to the podcast regularly, Christiane, which you probably don't, I'm not a big intro man.
I just find them really boring.
I like to cut to the chase.
So, but just so, just for all those people who are wondering, who is this woman?
How can we trust her?
Is she evil?
Is she a crank?
Just tell us a bit about yourself, your bona fides.
Okay, that's important.
I am, by trade, a board-certified OB-GYN physician.
I was a clinical assistant professor of OB-GYN at the University of Vermont at Maine Medical Center.
I have written three New York Times best-selling books, Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom, The Wisdom of Menopause, and Goddesses Never Age.
I'm the past president of the American Holistic Medical Association.
And in 2013, Reader's Digest in the United States named me one of the 100 most trusted people In America.
So, that's probably enough.
I've got to ask you about that, though, before we move on to the main event, which is that, do you reckon that Reader's Digest, and you're also on one of Oprah's lists of amazing women, right?
Oh yes, I'm one of her, yes, what do we call ourselves?
The Spiritual 100, the Oprah Spiritual 100 influencers who are using their platform for uplifting the human race, yes.
Which I'm sure you do, but I'm just wondering, given what we've seen in the last two years, every institution is basically endorsing this massive scam that's going on.
Do you reckon you'd make the Reader's Digest list now?
Do you think Oprah would still send you a Christmas card?
Absolutely not.
In fact, one of my prize accolades from 2020 is being named one of the disinformation dozen, and that is one of 12 people responsible for 70% of the misinformation on the internet.
So that's the Center for the Countering of Digital Hate.
It's out of London.
Oh, that's a made-up thing.
It's a completely made-up organization designed precisely to close down people like you.
Yeah, but there is no way that I would ever be allowed anymore on any of the woke channels.
I'm done.
But I'll tell you what I'd like to say about that.
If I were still accepted in that group, I should be ashamed of myself.
That's how I feel about it.
I'm with you.
I can tell already, you're the kind of person that I would like as my doctor.
Because I reckon you'd give me good advice and you wouldn't pump me full of crap that wasn't good for me.
And you'd care.
And you'd know your stuff, I think.
I don't get the impression that you don't know what you're talking about.
Nope.
Nope.
I've been there.
I've done many cesarean sections and bleeding to death people in the middle of the night and stillborns and all of that.
I mean, I've had, I've done regular medicine, but not for a while.
For real.
Scrubs for real didn't just play a doctor on television.
Yeah, I was I was in there up to my elbows for a long time.
Yeah, but not now because now here's what I see, by the way, and I'd like to address all the health podcasters and the health influencers in the world.
And here's what I'd like to say to you.
If you, my dear, are just selling your green juice and not mentioning this crime against humanity and global genocide, I don't ever want to talk to you again and I've lost all respect for you.
Because if you think that you can stay in your little silo and just not take a side and just go about with your little business when this is a global threat to humanity itself, You're sorely mistaken.
It is time for all of us to stand up.
Yes.
Of course, you've now effectively lost all the people out there who trust the drug, trust the vaccine, it's safe and effective.
They're thinking, well, this woman is using phrases like crimes against humanity.
They would never do this to us.
What would their motivation be?
Et cetera, et cetera.
And you must encounter this a lot.
I wrote this book called Dodging Energy Vampires.
This was a book I wrote in 2018 and it was just about the basic narcissist in your family.
I didn't realize it was going to be predictive programming for how to handle the psychopaths running the planet.
It's the same dynamic.
If you have a narcissist self-centered person Who has been ruining the lives of your family for years.
Just blow it up globally because we're being gaslit en masse by the entire planet.
Not just that maddening narcissist in your family.
Yeah.
No, I think everyone has got a similar problem and similar divisions within their households.
I mean, I was one of those people who believed totally in the system.
I thought that, you know, if you've got cancer, obviously chemotherapy was the answer.
I thought that Well, I thought that only crazy hippie people didn't vaccinate their kids, because why would they?
No, but come on, wait a second, Christian.
Why would they do this stuff if it were bad for us?
And a lot of people can never get past that.
They think that vaccines are one of the... I've been told this, I mean, by a guy who works for the Rockefeller Foundation, and why would he lie to us?
He assured me that people who don't believe in climate change and vaccines are just tinfoil hat crazies.
Now, I would say that is probably the position of most people in the world.
So can we give a sort of 101 on First of all, why vaccines aren't quite the miracle invention that we think they are.
Yes.
If we go back to smallpox, There were, believe it or not, there were a huge outcry against smallpox vaccinations.
And if you get old newspapers from the UK, which my colleague Suzanne Humphreys has done in her incredible book, Dissolving Illusions, she's gone back to all the primary sources.
And what she found out is that the people who did best from smallpox were quarantined in small areas, sunlight, healthy food, this sort of thing, and they got over it.
Many, many people died from the smallpox inoculation.
Polio.
Let's bring up polio because polio is back.
We just changed the name to transverse myelitis or Guillain-Barre.
It's still polio.
And polio hit in the 50s right when DDT came along, a nerve toxin.
And so what you find with all of the vaccines, measles, mumps, and this is when people were dying of those things, not many do by the way, but let's take measles and polio.
What you find is the epidemic rises like this and then it comes down and it's tailing off.
The vaccines were introduced at the tail end of those epidemics.
So what we do, we equate the vaccine with wiping out the germ, when in fact it was over by the time those came in.
When you really do a deep dive, Then you find out like Andy Wakefield has done in his film, 1986, The Act.
When you do a deep dive into the history of vaccines, you will instantly see it is not what we've been taught.
And the increased life expectancy of humanity has come about through hope, education, and clean water.
Not through vaccines.
We're now up to, by the way, in the United States, 72 mandated shots by the age of 18.
72, with 200 more in the pipeline.
That seems crazy.
It seems crazy, doesn't it?
Yeah.
You can't get your head around it.
No.
Little babies are getting six shots at once.
It's interesting what you say, because I think that everything connects.
I got into this, into my skepticism via questioning the environmental movement.
And it's very interesting.
If you listen to environmental campaigners, they will tell you that the reason that the air is cleaner is because of the introduction of the Clean Air Act and clean air regulation.
And actually, what you find is, if you look at the charts, the air was already getting cleaner as people moved on to less polluting fuels.
It was already happening.
Regulation made no difference.
And that does sound very similar to what happened with the jet.
I've got to show you a graphic.
See, this is the number of shots.
When people see it this way, how many shots go into a kid?
It's staggering.
I agree.
Anyway.
But the thing is, look, it's part of our education and our upbringing.
It is imprinted in us.
We all know the story about how, was it Edward Jenner who discovered that dairy maids had much better complexions and that therefore, because they had cowpox, which is a milder version of smallpox, and therefore they were immune, This is all part of our education, isn't it?
You're saying this is brainwashing?
Absolutely, but you know, as Dr Judy Majkovic points out, We can make very safe vaccines with interferon.
It's that you need to look at what we're doing.
So, by the way, this very famous measles outbreak at Disney World in 2015, which began the popular press drum beating of These dread diseases are coming back and all that.
You find out that a very high percentage of those were actually the strain of measles in the shot itself, in the vaccine itself.
So, it's more complicated than you would think, but it has become really a belief system, like Catholicism.
It's scientism.
It's a fundamentalist religion.
And I did, by the way, listen to one of your podcasts, which I loved, which is that you find yourself believing more and more in divinity, in God, I mean, it's interesting, isn't it, that we find ourselves after so many years in the hallowed halls of academia and doing very well, this seemed like the way to go.
Suddenly, there's a whole other force coming in.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I've completely cut loose with so much of what what I believed in so many of the kind of normal version of events.
I mean, you mentioned Andrew Wakefield.
If there's one thing everyone knows in this country, and I'm sure in the US as well, about Andrew Wakefield, apart from the fact that he ended up marrying a supermodel, didn't he?
Is that he's a kind of the crazy guy who made up stuff that was absolutely comprehensively disproved.
I mean, everyone knows this.
It's just a kind of a known fact, isn't it?
Uh-huh.
All of it.
A complete...
Sigh up against him.
When you listen to an in-depth interview of Andrew Wakefield, he is the quintessential good doctor who was noticing that children who got the MMR vaccine were getting gastrointestinal problems.
And all he did was publish his findings, either in the Lancet or the British medical journals, can't remember which.
And suddenly, It began, I think it was whoever, someone who runs one of the biggest newspapers, I don't follow that, just landed on him and it was suddenly, it was a witch hunt.
Let's be clear, we are in the modern day Malfus Malficorum of the Middle Ages, the Hammer of the Witches.
It has come back, roaring back to get all of us who will not Listen, what did Joseph Campbell say the function of orthodoxy is to make martyrs out of mystics.
And, but here's, we don't even need to get into that part.
Andrew Wakefield science and his approach was 100%.
What we want it to be.
And he just got nailed for no good reason whatsoever.
And so look at how the propaganda machine has worked.
Everyone in England just knows he's a total quack.
He's a total crank.
When in fact, the opposite is true.
And up is down and down is up.
And somehow there's now globally a whole network of people like you and me who are finding ourselves Speaking the truth that is so obvious to us.
Yeah.
And the cognitive dissonance in the rest of the people is, like you say, this can't be true.
It can't be true that my husband is beating me.
He loves me.
He must love me.
He's down on his knees apologizing.
When any detective knows, the next time he gets a call, you'll be in a body bag.
But he can't possibly, he loves me, doesn't he?
This is the cognitive dissonance, or an abused child.
We know that a little child will always go back to the parent who abuses them because they have abuse and love completely together.
We're all in a debt slave system with fiat currency, all going back to the queen.
And we can't believe that this International Monetary Fund would be making slaves of all of us, but it is.
I mean, the Federal Reserve in the United States was started in the 1930s and the two people who opposed it, John Jacob Astor and someone else, interestingly died on the Titanic.
Yeah.
I mean, the more you go down the rabbit hole, Yeah, yeah.
So, in medicine, here's the thing, people think medicine is separate from this.
They think that doctors and medicine is separate from an entire web of control of humanity.
And it isn't.
Think about why do we have fluoride in the water, which crystallizes your pineal gland?
Why do we have GMO crops?
Why do we have all of these incredible pesticides and so on?
Why have we polluted the humans to the point where 54% of our children now have chronic illness?
Yes.
Well, you know, when I was a kid, do you think anyone had a peanut allergy?
No.
Now a peanut is a, you know, it's a weapon of mass destruction on an airplane.
Yes.
Oh, we can't possibly eat it.
Where did that come from?
How did that happen?
We believe that it is actually a reaction to a change in the microbiome resulting from glyphosate and also all of the adjuvants in the vaccines.
And we're seeing asthma and eczema and all these children now ADHD.
I mean, you look and I think it's a perfect storm of all the different toxins going into the human body.
I mean, the very fact, as an OBGYN, My American College of OBGYN approved the flu shot and DPT, diphtheria pertussis tetanus, for all pregnant women in the second trimester.
Why would you ever give a pregnant woman those kinds of toxins in the very second trimester when the brain and all the organs and the immune system is being developed?
This is insane!
And yet, Perfectly good people are doing it, and now my profession is telling all pregnant women, get this COVID inoculation, because it'll be so much better than if you actually had COVID.
Really?
Because 99.9% of people survive that, and if you treat it early, it's virtually 100%, even if they have pre-existing conditions.
And we now have An 80% miscarriage rate for women who got this COVID inoculation in the first 20 weeks of pregnancy.
That's from the New England Journal of Medicine.
This is insanity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And stillbirth.
Okay.
Yeah.
So these are shocking, shocking details.
How come this stuff isn't out there?
How come people don't know this stuff?
Because most people don't.
Because Well, I've lost two big Instagram channels.
I had 170,000 on one, and then we built up a second one to 70,000.
And those just got taken down.
Around Valentine's Day of 2021, Bobby Kennedy, Del Bigtree, Larry Pilefsky, me, we all did a whole live about the truth about COVID.
And right that same week, so that's February of 2021, All of our Wikipedia profiles got changed and most of us lost our Instagram channels immediately.
I have a very large Facebook presence and I do almost nothing on Facebook because the fact checkers, see if you put down any of these scientific studies, the fact checkers will come in and say, and you know, by the way, they've, they've proved the fact checkers, that's just an opinion and they're paid to do this.
So anything that doesn't go along with the narrative, is removed.
So we know that about, what, six corporations, maybe individuals, own the entire mainstream media.
They're all owned by the same special interests.
So Big Pharma and the media are all like this.
The New York Times has called me multiple times to do interviews.
There's no point in doing it.
CNN, I won't talk to them.
Wall Street Journal won't talk to them.
Washington Post.
There's no point.
All they want to do is put you in the stocks and the pillories, you know, so that in the public hanging square.
Yeah.
Doesn't matter.
What data do you have?
Dr. Peter Bregan wrote an amazing book called The Global Predators, We Are the Prey.
Peter Bregan is a world-renowned psychiatrist who eliminated the prefrontal lobotomy and also was a whistleblower on Prozac and all the SSRIs.
Dr. Peter McCullough wrote the foreword for that book.
Peter McCullough has pointed out that Harvard, Yale, probably your major hospitals, have no protocols for early treatment of COVID.
None.
Why would that be?
These are the best places in the world.
Remdesivir.
We know that this causes renal failure in many of the people who are taking it.
And even though the National Institute of Health, the NIH, It has Ivermectin listed on its list of things to treat COVID.
It's listed right there on the NIH official document, National Institutes of Health.
Remdesivir is first.
You need a court order and a judge to get ivermectin in a hospital at this particular point.
You and I wake up in the morning.
Now, here's the thing for me, because I have been involved in holistic medicine for many, many, many years.
I've seen how all the pioneers who come up with something safe, cheap, and effective have their character assassinated.
Including Vitamin C, Linus Pauling, who won two Nobel Prizes.
But the minute he started to talk about Vitamin C, he was a demented old man.
That's how they do it.
It's a character assassination, just like Andrew Wakefield.
He's a quack.
Yeah, what Pauling said is what we're not up on we tend to be down on.
So, generally speaking, the pioneers in anything that is new and safe and cheap and effective They'll have their character assassinated.
And then 20 years later, then everyone will own it and say, oh, well, that was perfectly, we could have seen this from the beginning.
And they've done the same with vitamin D. Michael Holick nearly lost his professorship at Boston University for saying we all needed more vitamin D. And his research is impeccable.
That was in the 90s.
Yes, aren't I right in thinking that I think it was during the 20s, I think I got this from Cliff High, that the pharmaceutical industry actually started pushing vitamin D before it realized that it was so successful at eliminating diseases they had to backtrack That makes that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, yes.
And equally.
All the time when I was, you know, coming home from board meetings of the American Holistic Medical Association, I would just wait to see if my Rejection notice would be in my doctor's mailbox.
Just from being a holistic physician, just from using food as medicine, just from suggesting natural things, I was always, you know, sort of in the crosshairs of my profession.
Even though I loved my profession, I loved what I did, and I always felt, let's just bring this in.
I like what you're doing over here.
Let's just bring in this missing piece, you see.
Do you think that that I obviously we we're encouraged by our culture to look back at doctors from the old days and we think of them as a bunch of cracks quacks we think about leeches we think about you know bloodletting of all kinds about the humors and so on but do you think there's a case to be made that a lot of sound medical wisdom has been suppressed by
By the current medical establishment in order so they can get their get their cures across.
Absolutely!
Let's take leeches.
Leeches have, first of all, leeches go to the acupuncture points and if you have, let's say that you have an amputated finger or something that needs to be sewn back on and you put leeches on it, they have an anticoagulant within their saliva and they actually can really help the healing.
So there are many, many things that the Amish community In our state, actually, and from Pennsylvania, they all came up to Maine to do a program on the healing of wounds and burns using comfrey and burdock leaves, and they worked with someone who'd had a sawmill accident in the hospital.
They worked with the Amish traditional healers, and the surgeon said he'd never seen anything heal this quickly.
So I believe that this Information from the past, iodine, the use of iodine.
If you're afraid of COVID and you've been around a bunch of people, do a nasal wash with a little bit of dilute hydrogen peroxide or Lugol solution or simply betadine.
You can get that in any pharmacy.
This is very, very helpful for any respiratory thing, but it's so simple and no one can make a fortune on it.
So I think we ought to we ought to really cut to the chase now and talk about these what I what I call the death jabs.
Yeah.
And they are.
But but I can say that.
But I'm just a kind of tinfoil hat wearing crazy.
What?
Yes.
OK.
I've been desperate.
I mean, not least for the members of my family to present them with Incontrovertible information which which steers them to making the right decision because at the moment they just they can't find this information.
So what do we need to know about these vaccines?
They contain first of all each of the shots.
contains 50 billion spike proteins.
So everyone's seen what the spike protein looks like.
And each shot contains 50 billion of those spike proteins.
And unfortunately, the spike protein itself is the bioweapon.
Then, with the mRNA technology, The spike protein begins to be manufactured within each cell.
So not only are there 50 billion spike proteins in each inoculation, they then make your body into a factory for those spike proteins.
They've also replaced one of the base pairs in the in the mRNA so that it can get by what's called the toll-like receptors to shut down your immune system.
The shots also contain fetal DNA either kidney, eye, Something, I have all those and what those are.
I wrote a little book called The Mom's Guide to the COVID Shot.
Believe it or not, it's available on Amazon, but it's available also on mamm.org, millionsagainstmedicalmandates.org, for a small donation.
But this tells you everything that's in it.
There are magnetized iron particles called spions, super paramagnetic nanoparticle delivery, of the vaccines.
So that's why people have the magnet will stick to them.
It contains polysorbate 80 and polyethylene glycol.
These are emulsifiers to get the stuff across the blood brain barrier.
There is DARPA Hydrogel.
DARPA Hydrogel, unfortunately, can go in and combine with your biologic system and create, it begins to create a kind of a network so that your body can be controlled remotely by electromagnetic radiation.
There's a patent 060606 from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation that exists to hook up your biometric data with cryptocurrency.
There's also SM-102, also known as luciferase, and this is poison that's in the shot.
There's graphene oxide, and also this can become graphene hydroxide, and this is an atom-thick little substance that can act like a razor blade.
We think that maybe this is the reason all those Soccer players are dropping dead on the field because their blood, in a trained athlete, the blood is moving so fast that these graphene particles act like razor blades and begin to destroy the heart and so on.
When you look at the autopsy reports of people who've died within three days or so of this shot, their hearts are not like normal at all, but every time We come out with one of these studies, and there are many, it gets censored.
So I put it all in like a cartoon form here, so people could see it.
We also know that the shots will enlarge lymph nodes, so that if you go in for a mammogram, it looks like cancer.
So then you'll have all these Things that you have to go through to figure out what's going on.
Just remember that this shot is an experiment.
It's still under an EUA.
The FDA did not approve anything.
They approved an application for Cominati, it's called.
We don't have any of those.
Those don't exist.
So, it means that you don't need to tell people exactly what's in it.
There's also, Dr. Karimade has found these strange parasitic looking things like Hydra vulgaris, and we know that those have been used.
The Hydra is immortal.
And even if you put it in a blender, it just creates more and more and more of it.
I think about the Hydra thing at CERN in Switzerland.
I mean, this stuff is the stuff of science fiction.
Is the Hydra an animal or what?
It's a aquatic protozoan.
It's a parasite.
We think that's the reason ivermectin works so well, by the way, is there are parasitic things that are in this.
But there's also, and this gets very confusing, when you turn on 5G radiation, it would appear that whatever is in the body, the graphene oxide, by the way, any electrician will tell you they understand graphene.
It conducts electricity beautifully.
And so when you up the 5G, towers, which went up like mushrooms in March of 2020.
I don't know if you saw this in the UK, certainly here, everywhere, boom, suddenly going up.
And that's for 5G and the 5G radiation adversely affects the human body.
And again, there's almost no regulation for that.
So I think that there is this sinister relationship between the things that are in the shot, And the electromagnetic radiation doing something to humans.
Many people just being around someone who's had the shot recently.
We did a whole study.
We have 10,000 entries of women whose menstrual periods fell off the rails, miscarriages, stillborns, blood, egg-sized clots being passed by an 18-month-old baby girl who was around her recently, and they inoculated grandparents.
There's something that appears to be giving off a voltage.
The DARPA hydrogel may be giving off a voltage.
Nobody, nobody knows because it all gets censored by the mainstream.
And also if you read the book on Fauci by Robert Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I'm waiting to get a hold of the book.
You can't get it.
Yeah, Fauci, you can't get it.
No, Fauci has controlled All of the centers for research and universities and so on.
So what we have is the VAERS data.
I know you've got in the UK the yellow card system.
I have a good friend who is with the NHS over there and she's been told Not to fill out the yellow card on people who have clearly had adverse reactions.
So the adverse reactions just get completely shoved under the carpet.
And if someone has one, then the doctor says it's a coincidence.
We have in the United States a whistleblower from the Medicare and Medicaid office who's documented 48,000 deaths within three days of getting the shot.
This is their own data.
Anyone can find it at Renz, R-E-N-Z hyphen law dot com.
You can get a PowerPoint and give it to all of your officials.
That's what we're finding ourselves doing.
All of us doctors on the front lines of this, just give people the information.
Yes, absolutely.
But people still, now they're going in for their boosters.
Now we're inoculating five-year-olds.
It's insane.
It is insane.
Let's just take a step back because I really want to bring more people on board.
I mean, that's our holy mission right now, isn't it?
Right.
I mean, it is our holy mission.
Yes.
Yeah.
That long list of ingredients.
Let me play devil's advocate here.
How do we know you're just not some you just didn't make all this stuff up?
Where did you get this information?
How has it been collated?
How can we trust this data?
I work with a group of five different doctors, including Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, who has put together all of this information, so drtenpenny.com, and she has the 40 mechanisms of injury from the shot available on her website.
We also have a huge amount of data that we have compiled in the lawsuits that we have filed against our state government.
Those can be found at MainStandsUp.org.
MainStandsUp.org.
And if you just read through the lawsuits itself, Peter McCullough wrote our affidavit.
And if you see any of those, you'll see that there are Dozens and dozens and dozens of scientific references.
I also work with Dr. Carrie Made, Dr. Larry Pilefsky, who is a pediatrician, also past president of the American Holistic Medical Association.
Dr. Lee Merritt, if you go to therebelldoctor.com, she is an orthopedic spine surgeon who's worked with the Navy.
She has all of us together, have worked for a year and a half on collating this data, bringing it together.
Our podcasts are available on mamm.org.
Also, that site, where a bunch of us have worked, has a lot of this data.
Also, the vaccine reaction.
Children's Health Defense has numerous things.
Mercola.com Has had amazing, all of these studies listed, but I believe that his life was threatened, so he had to take down a lot of what he does.
Thankfully, he's now writing for the Epoch Times.
This wouldn't surprise me that they have, I mean, Farmer particularly has a reputation for bumping off inconvenient whistleblowers, certainly.
They certainly do, yes.
And I suppose that's because there's so much money at stake.
There's so much money at stake, but it amuses me, frankly.
It amuses me that Pharma, with all their money and all of their this and that, that somehow they would target me as dangerous to their narrative, which just shows you, I think, how powerful it is when someone is aligned with God and armed with the truth.
We become very powerful.
There's no reason not to trust me.
I'm not in it for the money.
This is what they try to do.
Oh, well, she's making money off what?
I mean, how many billionaires were made in the past two years from Moderna and Pfizer?
And it's ridiculous.
Yes, yes.
So one of the problems I've been having of late when arguing with people who believe in the vaccine Is that they tell me, they tell me that people who haven't, this is a known fact, apparently, that people who get COVID and have been vaccinated, I mean, they've given up on the argument that these vaccines, which aren't vaccines, protect you from getting COVID.
No one even pretends that.
Right.
But they do say that, oh, the symptoms would be much, much worse if you hadn't had the jab.
How do I counter that?
I mean, what evidence do I supply?
Because it's very hard to find.
I think at that point, you look at them and you say, okay, if this worked, we would have known it by now.
I mean, it's like, I don't think you can counter it.
Not with someone who's in cognitive dissonance.
They're going to believe what they're going to believe.
You find this, by the way, in any academic field.
Let me just go and get rid of that.
Hang on one second.
My goodness, I turn off my phone and then the iPad starts in.
Anyway, I don't believe that you can counter that argument.
So what I would do in that one moment, you won't win with the intellect, ever.
And that's what you have been trained.
We've been trained, if we have the data, we ought to be able to make A cogent argument that would win them over, like a debate.
There is no debate with this, because the people are in a... There's a wonderful Belgian psychologist, you might have had him on, who calls what's going on a mass formation.
Mathias Desmet.
Yeah, he's on the list.
He's good.
Yes.
And what he says is, they're so in the narrative, when you hypnotize somebody to that degree, you can do open heart surgery with no anesthesia, and they won't feel it.
So they're not, there's nothing you can say or do nothing.
So you have to go into a loving space in the heart.
And what I do, is I listened to this Christian prophet who I liked called Cat K-E-R-R.
And she said, all of us, by virtue of the spiritual authority granted to us by being made in the image of God and in the authority of Jesus Christ, we have available to us a legion of heavenly host angels.
We send them out.
We can send the angels out to take down the demonics in anyone's mind.
So, I love that idea, and we can't prove it.
We can't prove it, but it feels better.
So, I just think, you know, you say in the morning, I accepted the grace of the Heavenly Father, and then you say, and I now I ask that I become really dangerous to the demonic forces and I command with the spiritual authority granted to me through Jesus Christ, I command the heavenly host warriors to go out and take down the demonics in the hearts and the minds of my family and the government around the country.
And I think that what Kerr says is they've been waiting to do this.
It's the same beings that parted the Red Sea.
And I figure, why not?
If anyone had told us, you and I, a year ago, that this perfectly Brilliant family members that we have been working with who have been so smart about so many things.
Listen, in my field, holistic medicine, I believe the number of functional medicine doctors, yoga teachers, spiritual teachers, people who had never vaccinated their own children, suddenly COVID comes and they are putting on a mask and social distancing, virtue signaling.
And I talked to a woman who was nearly killed by her ex-husband, a batterer.
And she said, and then she trained with the New York Police Department, New York City Police Department, NYPD.
She said, there's a couple of things I learned.
One, That the police themselves have a sex trafficking union thing.
There's some policemen who are involved in this.
That's not surprising.
But she said, I had to come to realize I was addicted to being idealized.
I wanted to be the good, forgiving person.
I was the one who always took him back.
Oh, I'm so blessed.
And she said, once I saw what my role in this was.
See, because no one wants to look like the bad guy.
You want to look like we're all in this together.
We're all in this together.
And oh, and the people pouring across the border just want to come to the United for a better life.
Really?
They're all heads of drug cartels and they're raping eight-year-olds.
You know, we've got all the data for that, but people don't want to know that this degree of evil exists.
And here's the kicker.
It's been running the planet for centuries.
And now it's just all coming up.
What I like to say as a surgeon, you have an abscess and you have to incise and drain it.
And then as soon as you drain it, you've got to put in an instrument or your fingers to break up the loculations, how deep it goes.
Well, with this one, you're up to your armpit before you realize, my God, that's how deep this thing is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I totally get that.
And I really appreciate more tips on it.
You say, and I certainly found this, we're not going to win it with facts.
And obviously I'm going to try your invoking various heavenly forces.
That's a good tip.
But also tyranny.
I just found from Lee Dundas, a human rights attorney in California, she said people are responding to the notion of tyranny when you point out when they're dragging people out of their homes and forcibly inoculating them in Australia, let's say.
Yeah.
People are waking up to tyranny.
And that may be the way we wake them up.
Is that this just I mean, we're creating a police state here.
Yes.
We totally are.
But okay, so in a way, all this painstaking information we're amassing together in this podcast, it's just going to go right over their heads.
It's for the converted, not for the to-be-converted.
Yes, yes.
But what we can do, we can pray That those whose eyes are open and those ears can hear will hear this.
Please deliver this information, those who are in the right frequency, to hear it.
And if they're not, may their ability to hear and see be speeded up.
Because, you know, we have to give people the dignity of their own timeline, don't we?
Even if it means they're going to die.
And I think this is the hardest part for me as a physician.
I took an oath, you know, first do no harm.
But it can lead into rescuing.
Now that they're inoculating children, let's say.
You almost want to go to the schools, you want to hold up a poster and say, you're killing your children!
But the parents are into it.
The parents think they're doing the right thing.
I want to give you an example from my training way back.
I'm at St.
Margaret's Hospital for Women in Boston, and at that time, the gynecologists were doing the breast surgery, which was just a weird thing that happened in Boston and nowhere else.
And young women would come in with breast lumps, And I knew that if there were any abnormal cells at all in that breast, they were going to end up with what was called a Halsted radical mastectomy.
These are no longer done.
That was so disfiguring.
You removed the breast, you removed the underlying pectoral muscles, you removed all of the lymphatic.
So you literally had like a skeleton on the side where the breast had been.
Disfiguring.
Okay.
I would know That there were better options available.
And the night before the surgery, I had to, it was my job to go around and do the pre-op bloods, urines, make sure everything was okay, and then have them sign the operative consent form.
Every fiber of my being wanted to say to them, run, get out of here.
You are about to be mutilated beyond anything you can imagine.
But I knew that their faith and their trust was in their surgeon.
And the one that was doing all this had written the marriage manual for Catholics.
And so I knew that their faith was so involved in a particular man that the only thing I said would be, kill the messenger, get out of here.
And so I remember this, and I remember thinking, let me learn everything that I can learn here.
And then one day I can take it forward and make a difference.
And by the way, it was the same with the six little baby boys lined up Saturday morning for me to do a circumcision before I left.
Another procedure that's mutilating and brutal and painful and is unnecessary.
And this is what everyone believed.
So I did it as part of my job.
I wouldn't do it now.
My level of frequency is different now, but I did it then because it was part of my job.
But, you know, I think people are going to have to come to This knowledge and what's going on will come out and I think, I hope I'm wrong, I think there's going to be a lot of suicides when people realize what they've done.
Larry Nassar was the physician for the United States girls Olympic gymnastics team and for 30 years He sexually abused those girls.
He was beloved by their families.
He came and had dinner with them.
And when it finally came out, the father of one of these girls committed suicide.
He could not believe that this man who had ingratiated himself into the family home, came for family dinners, all this time had been sexually abusing the daughter.
He just couldn't, that's the kind of dissonance I think we're going to see, especially when someone's five-year-old has the inoculation and dies.
How are you going to live with yourself?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what, okay, so lots of people I know have had the Both their shots, even having the booster.
Right, right.
They haven't died.
They haven't, you know, my parents have had it.
They haven't had ill effects touch wood.
How do you, some of us have been sort of fearing from quite early on that there's going to be A.G.E.
reactions and so on, that the people are going to die.
We haven't seen this yet.
When are we going to likely to see the bad effects of all this?
Yes.
Okay.
So first, there's a couple layers on that one.
One, there's some intel out there from Dr. Jane Ruby and Dr. Karen Kingston, both who have worked for a long time with the pharmaceutical industry, that there are many batches of these inoculations that are saline, that don't contain any stuff.
So that's important.
And I hope that that's true.
And that the bad batches, there was some intel out of Slovenia, where there were one, two, and three on the vials, and the one labeled number one was given to all the politicians.
And then the bad ones were number three given to the regular people.
So, that said, we know from the work of Dr. Ryan Cole, The incidence of endometrial cancer is up 20 times.
The incidence of lymphoma, we're seeing melanomas coming back, people getting shingles, all kinds of cancers are on the rise.
What's happening is nobody is equating it to the inoculation.
So I'm thinking that's two different narratives.
One, a lot of the shots are probably just benign and I hope that's true because you couldn't be killing off the entire human race at once.
It would make you look bad and they would be on to you sooner.
And then two, Each booster, each shot, decreases unity more and more and more.
So we're, you know, I was flying to Dallas to do a thing with Clay Clark's show last weekend.
The stewardess stumbled and spilled things on people twice during the flight.
I'd never seen anything like that.
And another woman just walking through the aisle stumbled.
We're seeing what are called vaccidents.
We know that in 2021, 111 pilots died.
The number of pilots dying after these mandates is up 1,762%, some figure like that.
So the FAA is having a, you know, because if you get this shot and if it does indeed make you hypercoagulable, which we have proof that it does, and then you go up to altitude to 10,000 feet, Pilots are already at risk for blood clots, and we know that someone who's had the test could have the shot, could have a D-dimer test, and this would determine whether or not you have micro clots.
It's something that everyone who's had the shot can do.
Just go get that test.
It's a standard blood test.
See if you have micro clots.
The other thing is we don't know How long?
Notice what what's the narrative now?
Oh, you're no longer immune.
You need a booster.
And then you need another booster and you need another booster.
And I've listened to some scientists say that we will get a subpopulation Whose immunity is so compromised, they're going to need boosters just to keep them alive.
I am not up on that one.
But it's very true that a lot of the people who've had the shot, and believe me, I want to be true, that they just got saline.
And that includes my electrician and my plumber.
Okay, because I love these guys and I need them.
Yeah, well quite, and you know, I love my mum and my dad, and I don't want them to.
Exactly!
And brothers and sisters, you know, some of them have had it, and it really worries me a lot.
I know.
Is there anything, I've heard you before say that there's really nothing you can do, that you're just like, you're kind of toast, you can't undo this.
Well no, let me change that now.
Okay.
And I met Gene Decode, and I don't know if you've listened to any of Gene Decode's things, he's fascinating.
Okay.
I actually met with him, which is a rare occurrence.
And he is, I hope that his website is up.
He has many detoxification protocols to get out the parasites, the spike proteins, and the graphene oxide.
So let me give you something that everyone can do right now if they do nothing else, and that's the Jim Humble MMS protocol, the Miracle Mineral Solution.
All right, and this is widely available.
Waterpureworld.org is where you get the stuff, but I forget the name of it.
It's like sodium chloride and something citrate.
It is what, by the way, Donald Trump was criticized for when everyone said, he's telling you to use bleach.
This stuff is wildly effective.
So it's the Jim Hong MMS protocol 1000.
The MMS protocol 1000.
And then the mud mix.
Gene Decode's famous mud mix.
That's one tablespoon of activated charcoal, They make that, it's food grade, they make it from coconuts.
One tablespoon of bentonite clay, one teaspoon of zeolite, one teaspoon of diatomaceous earth.
You just mix that up in some juice and drink.
And if you just take that every day, that will help get all the heavy metals out of your body, all the detox of parasites and so on.
And that can make a huge difference.
There's also SSKI, super saturated potassium iodide, more gallons direct And again, I don't know if stuff gets shipped to the UK.
I understand it's different in different countries, but iodine is very, very helpful.
I absolutely believe that God can heal anything, but I think that there'll come a time when people will have to admit that they made a mistake, and they're going to have to kind of kneel at the foot of the cross and say, I worship false idols.
I have an immune system that's fiercely and wonderfully made by God-given immunity, and I ask for forgiveness that I trusted something other than the source that made me.
And then, when you're connected with God, I think anything is possible.
Well, I totally agree with that.
Although, you know, non-Christians would consider that to be a counsel to despair, because if you're starting to... if God is the only answer, then you really are in trouble, aren't you?
Tell me.
I understand.
So go with the MMS and the mud mix.
Yeah, exactly.
The So what you're clearly suggesting is that this is part of a depopulation agenda.
I mean, they wouldn't be giving us this stuff.
There's no other way to explain it.
Not with a disease with a 99.9% survival rate, where we had really good early treatments.
Zev Zelenko, out of Brooklyn, He was treating his community early on, so I would use the Zelenko protocol.
Everyone got better, no problem.
And then that was vilified, just like Andrew Field.
Pharmacists were told, don't give ivermectin.
Now, the FDA here in the States is telling UPS, United Parcel Service, where we get our stuff, to make sure that no one can get ivermectin.
This is insanity!
Ivermectin's been out there, you know, the World Health Organization website of essential medications.
It's been used for 60, 70 years.
No, it's clear that God likes Orthodox Jews in New York.
He seems to be doing less of a fight for the Jews in Israel, because, I mean, of all the countries in the world, isn't that crazy?
Isn't that now, you know, one thing that happened, though, that's good.
I testified before the rabbinical court in Brooklyn, and the rabbis there came out with, in rabbinical law, no children should ever be inoculated.
And so that was their, you know, rabbinical.
So as one of my friends says, we've had an awful lot of people converting to Judaism recently to save their children.
And But at least, you know, what's happening in Israel, the only way to understand that is to begin to understand the Kasserian Mafia.
And we don't need to get into that.
Oh, well, that's yes, exactly.
That's that's a long that's a very deep rabbit hole.
The Kasserians.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, we could we could do loads of podcasts on that and never get to the bottom.
And so We can, to a degree, cure it, but there are clearly going to be some deaths coming up, aren't there?
Yeah, I think that we can say that.
So what people will need to do is put two and two together.
Because many, many, many of my associates here in Maine are getting strokes, they're getting heart attacks, they're getting all kinds of things.
What, doctors?
One thing I would like people... Yeah, doctors, yeah.
And they're not putting two and two together.
It's, you know, it's crazy, but there's some light at the end of the tunnel.
The Cleveland Clinic and also Creighton University in Omaha, they have removed The mandates because they don't have enough workers.
Here in our state, the governor has brought in the National Guard.
Now, I don't see how the National Guard is going to do open heart surgery and do a complicated fracture or do a C-section.
But, you know, because I think thousands of health care workers have left because of the mandate.
And you have to ask yourself, these were the people on the front lines of COVID.
They saw the worst.
What do they know?
What do they know that they don't want to get the shot?
I mean, you know, now hospitals are full of it.
It is an epidemic of the inoculated.
I don't call it a vaccine because it's not.
But they're full of that.
And sooner or later, this has got to get out there.
Except we've seen this already.
They've been teeing this up for months, actually.
They are seeding the idea that the problem are the unvaccinated and the unvaccinated are a strain on the medical system and that they are somehow, I don't know how they get to this point, that the unvaccinated are endangering the vaccinated.
No, well, they started to do that with the childhood shots.
That's how we mandated in our state, which I testified against, that's how they've mandated the 72 shots.
The narrative is your kid who might get measles is putting my kid who got the shot at risk.
It's like if these things worked, you would never be worried about it.
It is the weirdest.
Well, you know what Goebbels said.
Tell the biggest lie you can and repeat it often enough, and it's actually easier for people to believe that.
It defies all logic.
It does.
It does.
I mean, you're right.
If the vaccine works, then it's not a problem if you're around unvaccinated people.
Simple as.
Ought to be.
No, even in the Outlander series.
I remember she's going in and they've got smallpox and it's France and it's whatever it is.
And she says, I don't need to worry.
I've been inoculated.
And she shows her little smallpox vaccine scar.
Well, somehow, you know, they got it right in that one, but now we've lost our minds.
Well, what does she get?
What happens?
I mean, is that does that undermine the vaccine point?
I didn't get.
No, no.
What they wonder how this doctor.
Claire can go in to this whole sick ward of people with smallpox where they're all terrified, you know, and they just run.
If someone has the pox, they just run.
She stays in there to help and no one can quite understand it, but she shows them her smallpox vaccine scar and says, I can't get it.
Because I've had this thing, but you wouldn't understand because you remember she's coming from the future.
Yeah, sure.
No, but what if doesn't that doesn't that demonstrate the insidiousness of of our entertainment culture where these ideas are implanted in us?
It's like, you know, every child knows about cowpox and about dairy maids and about it's it's there.
It's I mean, there are so many probably more important historical things that we don't know, that don't get taught, and yet this gets taught routinely.
Oh, you mean like Tesla having his entire lab completely destroyed?
Well, that's true.
We don't know anything about Tesla, apart from that he's got a car named after him.
We don't.
We don't.
And you know, Stephen Greer, who wrote, who did the Disclosure Project, what Stephen said, he's an emergency room doctor, and he's done all this work on all of the technologies brought to us by off-worlders, we'll call them.
And he said, we're 100 years behind where we could be.
Fiber optics and all of that.
All was taken from off-worlders, the Roswell and all of the rest.
I don't get into the ET stuff.
I also don't get into the flatter stuff, I could care less.
But the medical stuff I'm very interested in, and I think that we are way behind on things like homeopathy frequency.
But remember, in about 1910, with the Flexner Report, funded by John D. Rockefeller, He went out to all of the homeopathic, naturopathic, chiropractic, osteopathic medical schools and accused them all of being quacks.
He invented the word quack.
They started the American Medical Association and this was all so that you could use only pharmaceutical drugs made from petroleum products.
And when people started to get sick, they founded the American Cancer Society.
So what's considered proper medicine now, because of this brainwashing, is only medicine you can get in a pill or in surgery.
So anything natural, you can't get.
And by the way, I would suggest people start to grow Artemisia wormwood.
It's as effective as ivermectin and you can grow it in your garden.
Okay.
I mean, I've got some Ivermectin from India, which I'm currently taking because there's some... Yeah, we should all have some of that.
And if you can't get that, then you go to the tractor supply and get the horse stuff.
But now you have to ask for it because they're not keeping it out on the shelves like they used to.
And you just use a little pea-sized thing once a day if you need it.
Oh, can I ask you something that struck me the other day?
I've got fillings made of mercury.
We know that mercury is poisonous.
Whose bright idea was it to put mercury in fillings?
Where did that come from?
I have no idea, but my dad was a dentist and I used to play with it in his office, which, you know, it was highly toxic, but you could coat dimes and quarters and it was lots of fun.
But now, I mean, it is a terrible thing.
I had all my mercury amalgams removed long ago in the 80s.
So it's very good to get those removed.
Though I've had people tell me that when they're around inoculated people, their fillings start to buzz.
They can feel it.
So it must be some electromagnetic thing.
Frankly, none of this shit would surprise me anymore.
I mean, this is the problem, isn't it?
That I think for those of us who've been awake or who have awakened since early 2020, it is like completely seeing the world anew in every respect.
We have to question everything we thought we knew about the world.
Yes, we do.
And the fun part of that is we're going to build a new one, and it'll be better.
So we're not going back.
We're going forward.
And I think we have this superpower, we humans, called imagination.
And we can create a world that really does work for everybody, but it's going to be created not top down, it's going to be bottom up with whole little areas.
So in our state, we've just created a network of communities where people are starting to grow their own food.
We've got a jobs board for where you can get a job if you haven't been inoculated and you know, that kind of thing.
So we're creating this, this whole planetary network.
There's a guy in California, Mike Coulombe, starting TheRenegadeNation.org.
And he's looking at farmers to grow herbs, to make our own medicines, restaurants that don't require any of the craziness, theatres, hospitals.
It's happening.
It's happening.
Yes.
We're building a parallel society because we have to.
We've been ostracized from the system.
Increasingly.
Right.
That's right.
Yeah, but aren't you finding that the friendships you've created from this are deeper, more fun?
I mean, I'm having more fun with more people than ever before because I can be all of who I am and have always been.
Totally.
I had a, the other day, I had a lunch for my sort of top tier premium subscribers for my, you know, my podcast.
And it was just absolutely, completely diverse mix of people.
I mean, you know, there was a very elegant woman, posh, grows her own weed.
And you think, yes, yes, you go, girl.
And just lawyers and financiers.
And all of them had one thing in common, that they had been rejected by their own, their friends, their communities.
And finally, they felt they were with friends.
Oh, and a lot of them, a lot of them, a lot of them had discovered God recently.
It's extraordinary.
This, this kind of spiritual awakening is happening because people are realizing this is the battle between good and evil.
This is, you know, it's not, this is not a drill.
I don't know whether it's Armageddon, but it's, but it's certainly pretty damn close.
That's right, that's right.
And it's a wonderful group.
I mean, we had a group in Dallas, Mickey Willis, who, you know, did the Plandemic series, Brian Artis, who came out with all the remdesivir thing, Dr. Peter McCullough, I finally got to meet him.
And I said to him, how's it going for Baylor?
That this man, who's editor in chief of eight scientific journals, has more peer reviewed scientific articles published than any physician in the United States.
Yes.
And has brought in more money for Baylor.
I said, how's it going for them since they kicked you out?
He said, not well.
In what way?
Well, I think they're getting roundly criticized for removing one of their shining stars who's been such an amazing academic physician.
He doesn't You know, Peter is just very buttoned up and he sticks with the medical literature and he is completely the good doctor.
Yeah, he's not.
He's had every treatment.
Yeah, no, you can't.
There's nothing in him.
I'm easy to dismiss.
I'm, you know, a crazy woman for me and that's easy.
Much, much harder.
He's so, he's so solid and everything that he knows is so solid.
And he's worked with all the regulatory bodies that to, to fire him is the stupidest thing you could ever do.
Well, let's hope that the overreaching, you're, you're right.
It is extraordinary that somebody like that with such a distinct distinguished track record.
Well, look at Reiner Fulmix.
Reiner Fulmik, who's brought down Deutsche Bank and VW.
You know, he's got the World Legal Alliance and all of the data.
And they're bringing in lawyers from every country in the world.
It's really exciting.
We're doing that in the United States as well.
And the courts are starting to turn around now.
Yeah.
Well, I hope so.
By the way, how is it in Maine?
I mean, I think of Maine, lobsters, and I think kind of left wing.
Is that?
Is it?
It is.
And, you know, we all thought that we were pretty left wing.
I certainly was.
And then this started.
So I had to change to the Republican Party because that's the only party that is for medical freedom.
And we've become one voter.
So we're kind of organizing.
But also Maine is known as a place of independent thinkers.
Independent people who make their living from the land, from the sea.
They don't want big government control, but live and let live.
So, but we've had an infiltration of woke people from Massachusetts and New York, and we have all of these.
I heard that, what's his name?
Bill Gates just bought a place in Camden.
The islands in Maine are infiltrated with deep state players.
It's a beautiful, beautiful area.
However, when there is a lot of top-down repression, here's how nature works.
It's the same with a muscle.
When you're pushing up against something that's heavy, what happens is you get stronger.
And that's what's happening in Maine.
We're getting stronger to stand up to tyranny.
And there are many places where you can go.
If you go further north than Portland, it gets much, much more open, just like the entire center of the United States, the heartland.
is you can go places and there's no mask and there's no social distancing and there are Trump signs on the lawns.
It's very interesting.
So you find your pockets.
It's very organic that way.
So there are whole towns where you wouldn't know that anything was going on.
It's live and let live.
That's great.
I think we should end on that on that cheery optimistic note.
Now is there anything you want to plug?
Have you got any new books out or anything?
A website?
Tell us about that.
The website is drnorthrup.com.
I have an e-news that goes out regularly.
My sort of real truth-telling is on Telegram.
One thing I want people to know, this is very important, there's no such thing as asymptomatic spread.
So please stop being afraid.
If someone is asymptomatic, they cannot spread it.
PCR test is shite.
Don't ever go near it.
It doesn't mean anything.
There's a 97% false positive rate in people who have no symptoms.
So don't, don't go getting nervous about a positive test.
Oh, I tested positive.
I don't want people to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What if you've got kind of cold symptoms or, you know, whatever?
If you have symptoms, then it might be magnifying a viral particle.
Between the PCR test and the LFT test, what's the difference?
That I don't know well enough.
I don't know well enough.
I just, I am not interested in the testing.
I'm more interested in huge amounts of vitamin D. Oh, and Gene Decode's site for all those detoxes is blessed4forservice.org.
And if it's not now, it will be blessed4forservice.org.
He also has a Telegram channel, The Real Gene Decode.
And I want people to be able to have those detoxification protocols.
Totally.
Totally.
I'm with you.
Okay.
Well, thank you, Christiane.
It's been fantastic having you on the podcast.
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