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Dec. 6, 2021 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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Dick Delingpole
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I know I always sound excited about this week's special guest but it's not a special guest this week so I'm not excited.
Welcome to the DeliPod with me James DeliPod and I know I always sound excited about this week's special guest but it's not a special guest this week so I'm not excited.
It's Dick.
It's the Dick and James show.
It is.
It's good, isn't it?
Dick, can I first of all apologize for, I mean, typically of me starting the podcast like quarter of an hour after I said we were going to.
And the reason is my excuse is that I was feeling a bit just not quite like where you've got a sore throat, but just before I've been really irritable all day.
And so I went to the to the spa to have a sauna.
And then I did my new secret thing.
Do you know what my new secret thing is?
Is it the cold shower thing?
Ice cold showers.
Are you doing it?
This is on my list of things to talk to you about, because it's one of those things when I possibly categorize it under a step too far.
But, you know, inevitably I will be drawn to it like a moth to a cold shower.
You are.
Tell me about it.
Do you know what, though, if you were a moth, it would completely bugger up your the powdery stuff on your wings, wouldn't it?
I mean, all the dusty stuff.
Yeah.
Let's not go with the moth analogy.
No, no, no, no.
But OK, so here's the thing.
It was a friend of mine called Julia.
I went I went up north a few week weekends ago.
And my friend Julia, who is completely like one of us.
And she said, I'm off my cold shower now.
And I said, Sounds a bit sounds a bit and she said no no it's great the first week or so you you find it a bit kind of oh god must I have another cold shower but then there comes a point where You can't survive without having your cold shower.
So this morning I had a cold shower, although the shower in our house doesn't really go properly cold, but the shower in the gym goes icy cold, which is much, much better.
And I read somewhere that you only have to do it for 30 seconds.
I don't know whether this is true or whether this is a kind of urban myth for lightweights, But anyway, here's the secret.
You have a hot shower, and at the end, turn it cold.
And I do it for as long as it takes me to get to rid me and deliver me out of great waters from the hand of strange children whose mouth speaketh vanity and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood.
I mean, I'm not suggesting that everyone does Psalm 144, but that one, it kind of, and sometimes you forget some of the lines and then you're thinking, Oh no, I've got to stay longer.
I remember the next line of the song.
Some people think I'm mad.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I completely get it.
It's very you.
It completely fits in with your particular brand of madness, which is obviously not all that mad.
But I can see that it It would be you shocking your body into sending all the good stuff around, coursing around you, all the stuff that the alarm bells will be ringing and your body will be saying you're under attack and we'll be launching defences, I suppose, that sort of thing.
That's what it is.
And also you think of how the Victorians were into the cold showers and really people probably up until about the 1960s when the Beatles came along and ruined everything, you know, corrupted our culture and turned us into this With their warm showers and their Japanese wives.
Yeah, exactly.
You've nailed it, Dick.
That's the problem.
I doubt Lennon would have been shot if he'd taken more cold showers.
I think he kind of invited his assassination.
But that's another story.
But yeah, I haven't looked up the technical side of things, you know, why it is, what exactly happens.
I would imagine that it improves the circulation.
But I definitely feel I don't feel resentful after a cold shower.
I feel well, all the things they're supposed to do.
I feel revived.
I feel I feel ready to ready to take on the world.
And I also feel that my immune system is being is being I'm giving a good shake up.
Because there was a period where I used to get ill all the bloody time.
I used to catch every cold that was going and illness is so tiresome, isn't it?
I mean, you know, when you get a sore throat and stuff, when you can't do... You and I like our routines, and I've now got mine, which involves getting up at quarter to six, a little bit of yoga, a little bit of prayer, actually, now.
Which one?
I start, I do Lord's Prayer in the morning, and that's when I do my prayers for the family, and I go through each member.
All the while... I hope you pray for me.
I double up there.
Of course, you're way up there after my immediate family.
Good.
I compared notes with Pa actually about this, about who we pray for and in what order.
Yeah.
And he pretty much does the same thing.
Anyway, I do this whilst in the child's pose.
I don't know if that's disrespectful, but it kind of works for me that I'm doing a bit of yoga whilst praying.
I think it's kind of a mixture of Satanism and Christianity.
It's good.
No, I'm not.
Do you know what, Dick?
I think this is one of the stupid things that people get when you are down the rabbit hole like we are.
You do encounter all sorts of people saying all sorts of stuff, and I think Christianity and religion is one of the biggest rabbit holes I've ever, ever been down.
There are so many different points of view.
There is so much information to learn.
I was talking to the forum about this the other day.
I was saying it's a bit like If you suddenly decided to get into cricket, football, rugby, baseball, American football, ice hockey, and you know, you tried to you tried to master all the stats and all the histories and know where you are.
And it's it's a it's a challenge.
Anyway, the thing about yoga, I was gonna say is there are those who say that yoga is diabolical or that it's how bad can it be?
If you just called it stretching and breathing it would lose any sort of mystical significance but it just happens to be what a 54 year old body wants in the morning when you need a bit of a stretch.
Adopting these various positions and I mix it in with my own routine of these leg stretches a physiotherapist has given me to cure my COVID knee.
I'm calling it COVID knee because I acquired it whilst doing too much running at the beginning of the first lockdown.
That's definitely, that is long COVID knee you've got there.
Long COVID knee.
Yeah.
But then I'm going to the pool, I'm doing some running at the gym, I'm swimming a mile, I then get to work cycling, I then do some more stretching, let's call it stretching rather than yoga, and then at the end of that I I built out Psalm 23.
Have I told you about my idea?
I think I probably have told you my idea, but I think if I talk about it more, it might happen.
I want to do a series of podcasts on the Psalms, you know, taking a different Psalm each week or each fortnight or whatever, and talking about them.
And I kind of want somebody to say, oh, I will take your video, your raw material, and I will put relevant pictures on the back.
I mean, I don't know what relevant pictures you'd have for Psalm 23, but anyway, that's the idea.
Because I think they are probably hill green meadows and still waters and things like that.
Well, yeah, exactly.
And sheep, obviously.
When I do Psalm 121, obviously I'm going to do that fantastic mural on the way, in Morven Link, on the way into Morven.
You know that the where it says one's got Elgar and the Morgan and things but it's got I will lift it's got I will lift up my eyes onto the hills in Latin in Latin.
Yeah.
It's all there even I think it might have been painted over.
No, no, no.
Of course, it's still there.
You'd never you'd never take down a piece of what it's not graffiti.
Is it art like that?
Yeah, we would.
No, no, no, no.
But it's this stuff is cool, isn't it?
Because all this stuff, it actually works.
Because, because, spoiler alert, God is real.
And he makes Well remember our podcast with Jonathan, with Jonathan Myles-Lee, and he told us at Psalm 23 he had used it actively to actually ward off demons when he came under demonic attack, and they withered away at the words.
I think you and I were both actually quite taken by that idea, the idea that it is It does have holy magic to it.
Well, are we conflating two things?
I mean, I know that this was what Jerry Marzynski found when I, you know, that was what he told me, that his patients, his paranoid schizophrenics who were hearing voices, the voices were got rid of by Psalm 23.
But if Jonathan confirmed that, well, that's, It is a very powerful.
Hopefully in the podcast.
I'm sure our viewers who remember things a lot better than us would would remember.
But either way we know it works and we know it has power and that alone is why it's worth learning.
But yeah.
I'm adding all these little things to my morning routine and now it looks like I shall have to end it all with a cold shower.
And it makes a lot of sense.
Jolt yourself into the rest of the day having started with all the stuff that's good for your body and good for your soul and then perhaps a cold shower does both.
Yeah, it does.
I'm with you on liking routines to the point where it's awful.
I do feel guilty about this.
So GB News contacted me on the day to ask me to do a program in the morning.
And I've got to the stage where I quite like my routine and I'm kind of buggered if I'm going to change my routine to do, you know, worky things.
What sort of time was it?
It sounds like a really good offer to me.
Yes, I know.
But the thing is, I know it wasn't a job.
It was just, you know, no, no, it was just a just a one off.
Yeah, a one off thing.
No, I mean, I'm I'm I'm pro GB News and equally somebody else, somebody on Twitter whose name I forget for the moment.
But again, I feel bad about this.
I booked a time to do a quarter of an hour on her podcast, but it was about eight forty five.
And I forgot and I because I was having my breakfast, you know, I've got I like you.
I've got the set routine.
I go on the run Tuesday and Thursday is my intervals day when I also do my My hundreds for Pilates, so I get my stomach in shape.
That's funny, Tuesday and Thursday are my running and swimming days, so I run and then do a shorter swim.
How odd that we've both got our Tuesday-Thursday thing.
So, if your routine gets disrupted by, say, a GP news thing or... You become resentful.
You do, because where are you going to do your... In fact, this morning I didn't do My, um, what is today?
It is Tuesday.
I didn't do my, um, uh, Pilates exercises.
No, I did the intervals but not the Pilates exercises because I had to do an extra pod with Toby, London Calling, because we'd had a kind of falling out thing on Sunday.
This again was a mistake.
We tried to record the podcast on a Sunday.
I don't know whether Toby's had a drink.
I mean, I imagine he might have done because we did it on, it was sort of Sunday evening.
But it didn't work.
There was a mummy and daddy fighting type scenario and it was touch and go whether the London Calling would continue.
That would be tragic.
When I know a lot of people, a lot of people are doing the whole, you know, Toby's beyond the pale, he just doesn't get it.
I think it's a case of viewers not getting it if they don't understand that Kind of, that's his role, isn't it?
Toby is the one who doesn't get it and it's kind of a part he plays.
Yeah, I think we have to have a toe in the water of normiedom.
Even though really we've we've we've waded onto shore and really let it left it a long way behind us.
But we have to say you were a tinfoil hatter if you if you disbelieved YouGov polls.
I mean, I would have thought that was skepticism 101 to distrust YouGov polls.
But, you know, apparently people trust them, which is very touching.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
It is interesting, isn't it?
But when you know this stuff, you know this stuff.
But if you don't, I suppose it's terra incognita and terra kind of weirder.
Whatever.
It's just like, there is such a gulf, isn't there, between Well I realised that today at work when I'd obviously been across the road to our local Tesco.
I couldn't wait to get into a shop with the new mask man obviously.
Me too!
And I almost left it from Monday so I could do it on Tuesday so I could go in proudly barefaced and half the other shoppers in there, mostly workmen, were proudly barefaced as well.
I even sort of Went up to one of them and, you know, congratulated him.
He was just shrugged it off.
He smiled.
And then I was with my work colleagues and one of them was just, you know, just nipping across the road to the shop.
And one of the other ones said, don't forget your mask.
And that's all right.
Got it here.
Where do you even start?
It means nothing to them.
They don't mind doing it.
Now, I know all the normies say, see, it is easy, but I think the problem I have with them is that they don't equate Wearing of a mask as being the thin end of the wedge to totalitarian dictatorship.
They think that's absolute flight of fancy, that I could get from wearing a bit of plastic over your face to end up in a concentration camp.
I see a clear path.
They don't.
Yes.
Yeah.
And also, I mean, even if it It doesn't lead to concentration camps, which obviously it's going to.
But even at, suppose, a ridiculous moment, it doesn't.
Why should you hide it?
Since when?
Since when in history have we hidden our faces with masks?
But they have no sense of history, the normies.
All they say is, well, it's something we've been asked to do.
It's a small ask.
It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
But they don't see the importance of the symbolism of it.
They're not doing it for health reasons.
If they'd been doing it for health reasons, they'd have put them on yesterday, not today.
I reckon.
The idea that Boris tells them what to do and then they do it.
I started calling them Boris's bitches.
Yeah.
Because really, it's as simple as that, and that might drive it home to them.
But, you know, I don't feel it's my duty to be constantly evangelical about my beliefs.
They see me as the resident office nutter, as it is.
I reckon most of these people, if in order to get into a supermarket you first have to have an anal probe, I reckon that they would be justifying that.
It's only an anal probe.
It's only a short prick up your bottom.
My colleagues will be joining the queue a second time for that one.
I said about that.
Yeah, but yeah, I don't know how we're ever going to find harmony again.
They'll take it all.
They'll bend over and let Boris do it to them.
And it's just sickening.
And a lot of these people certainly wouldn't have even voted for him.
And yet they're doing his bidding and his foul coterie of demonic marshals.
He's just...
Anyway, let's go.
How have you been?
How have you been coping generally?
How are your spirits?
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Spirits are high.
I mean you know I've got things like my third Wednesday which has just been superb.
Every Wednesday has been fantastic and I'm getting reports back from those who are running them up and down the country that they've had some fantastic meetings and everyone's always saying thanks so much for doing this and it is really just very very gratifying what we're doing there.
And I've started another group which I think I hinted at to you last time called Thursday Circle, which is kind of a third Wednesday plus God.
So I didn't want, a bit like you, I don't want to upset my non-Christian friends by harping on about it all the time, because I don't want to scare him off.
I know how Christians sound to non-Christians and we're loopy enough being conspiracy theorists, but when you add God to it, we are beyond the pale for some people.
So I thought by starting a group that was exclusively for those of us who were already down the God rabbit hole, it would be a chance for us to have a pint and talk about Things God related.
And I got a good friend who I won't necessarily need to name here, but you know who I'm talking about, who is a vicar who is going to come along and help.
Unfortunately, he's been ill, so he hasn't been able to come along to the first group.
But we had our first meeting last Thursday in a room above a local pub, and I like the idea of a room above a pub.
It's the sort of place where plots are hatched.
Yeah, where Tolkien hangs out with with C.S.
Lewis and they That's the sort of thing we're modeling ourselves on.
It's Bonhoeffer.
What was his first name?
Dietrich.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
Yeah.
We're modeling ourselves on his battle against Nazi Germany.
Of course, he was German.
He was a Lutheran pastor and He was trying to rally the church against Hitler, and it seems very apt and appropriate that we're trying to do the same thing.
And so I had no shortage of people wanting to attend, and those who did found it really beneficial that we could talk openly and we didn't have to worry about upsetting people, and hopefully it will carry on and be another thing like Third Wednesday that we can expand on.
You need to be very careful with those Hitler analogies because what's happening in the world now is way, way worse than anything that happened in Germany in the 1930s.
Well, it's altogether bigger.
Isn't it?
I was teasing you, Dick.
I was just, I was just trying to, well, on this, on this thing, like, you know, the people on Twitter who say that when you make an analogy to Yellow Stars and they say, how dare you compare, compare this innocent, you know, wearing a mask.
But anyway.
Yeah.
So are we going to do... Sorry.
Have you got any games planned?
Well, I was going to arrange some, but then work got horribly busy, but I was making notes about topics and things like that.
Right at the bottom of the list was cold showers, and we've automatically moved on to that.
And I was also going to talk about the Bonhoeffer bit, because I was reading up on Bonhoeffer, so I could talk knowledgeably about him as if I'd heard of him more than a couple of months ago.
So we've covered Bonhoeffer but I do recommend those of you who haven't heard of him look him up and find out what a brave chap he was because sadly he ended up being hanged by the Nazis a few weeks before the end of the war which is probably a fate that awaits us all if the rest of the world doesn't get on board with resistance to this tyranny that's fast approaching.
So you, I listened to your last Toby, your last London Calling one and you were talking about doing a, only part jokingly, about doing the crown type thing of your Oxford days and I thought absolutely brilliant idea!
A TV series set during your Oxford days to see the Early versions of all the politicians we love to hate.
Well, look, I would I would love to watch that that series, obviously.
And I would love to see whatever incredibly handsome, sexy person would play me.
And I imagine that the horse scenes that would be written into the script would be amazing.
The hunting scenes, even though I didn't actually hunt them.
But I think you can embellish, can't you?
But at the same time, I find it's very difficult to engage with all the things that we used to imagine we were going to do when we were older.
Yeah, everything's been derailed.
I find that things have changed so much in the last, it's not, it's over 18 months now, but whenever it was, you know, The world changed forever, didn't it, a bit after January 2020?
All bets are off.
And my worldview has been so shaken about everything, to the point where I almost can't enjoy films anymore because I know that they are created by an industry which is essentially evil and is using it as a way of programming us, whether it's seeding ideas or whether it's sort of giving clues to explain how the world really is.
It makes it very hard to view the world from a kind of normal perspective anymore, because once you know, you cannot unknow.
And I feel that way about music, about film, about TV.
I'm there too, and everything I watch, I now see... I don't see it as something necessarily putting me off completely, but I just understand it as another element to it.
And I don't even bother sharing it with the wife anymore.
I don't point out what I do sometimes.
No, you can't.
You can't.
Watching Squid Games, for instance, you know, you just know they're prepping us for the horror of that sort of thing.
Yes, all the scenes...
The scene, I think, in the penultimate episode where they're all sitting around a triangular table with these black and white checkered floors and people in masks and stuff.
These are all these are all tropes of either Freemasonry or Satanism or both.
And it's so obvious when you when you see it in the same way.
OK, James Bond has got really, really turgid.
I watched the new You know, die another whatever.
Yeah.
What is it called?
It's got die in it.
I don't know.
I'm so over James Bond.
I don't think I've seen one for the last six James Bonds.
But when you when you realize, for example, that one of the functions of James Bond is to gull you into thinking that the security services are your friend and that it's a good thing that there are agents who've got licenses to kill because he's acting on behalf of your country and it's and there's a union jack and it's all very patriotic and you love him.
That this is all part of and that there was a close relationship between Between the UK and the US and that the CIA are our friends in the form of Felix Leiter.
Well, I mean, the CIA is not our friend.
It's a continuation of OSS.
Which was essentially a mafia organization.
The mafia, or all the crime syndicates of America, in cahoots with the cabal.
Which plot or manner of horrible atrocities against the citizenry, which ferment wars, which are most assuredly not our friends.
This is the problem, isn't it?
So how can you relate to the Bond movies when you know this, when you know that Felix Leiter would much more happily Waste you in a moment for no reason.
And it's plotting against your country and against everything.
Well, this is why you have to see it and watch it in the same way as you watch, say, Toy Story, where you kind of know that Mr. Potato Head doesn't come alive when your back is turned, but just enjoy it for the silliness.
I think having that extra level of knowledge, it shouldn't, well, obviously it's not going to stop us watching stuff, but it just gives you another element to it.
And, you know, sometimes that can be quite interesting and quite fun to To try and pick apart the more subtle ones.
But it's like it's like there's a similar thing with with with music.
So I've been watching the Beatles documentary that they're sorry.
Yeah, it's it's really interesting.
It's really, really interesting because you are right in there.
Among them, as they as they break up.
And it's just fascinating to watch the dynamic between them, the relationship with the roadie, Mal Evans, the studio engineer, Glyn Johns and George Martin, hovering in the background, all these.
And it feels like you're there, you're there with them.
So that's all very interesting.
And at the same time, you think, well, well, As I said at the beginning, maybe I've got to do a podcast with Mark Devlin about this.
This has been a long time coming.
You know, ask him about his least favorite topic, Paul is dead and all the other things about were the Beatles created by the Tavistock Institute as the kind of the yin to the Rolling Stones yang.
Was it true that was it?
Who was the American Dick Sullivan, was it?
Whoever, who'd been briefed that there was this new phenomenon involving these things called teenagers, and that they were going to go mad when they saw this, these mop-top boys in their Pierre Cardin suits or whatever, that we think it was all organic and that it sprung out of the Cavern Club and stuff.
But what if it wasn't?
What if it was all pre-planned with an agenda in mind?
All our experiences from our previous lives, they seem like we were living in a dream state from which we've now awoken.
It does come back to the Matrix every time, doesn't it?
It does come round to completely waking up and realise that every aspect of our previous lives was lies.
But the Matrix does it so much better than anything else because it shows that It proves beyond doubt that everything is a program, you know, like the girl in the red dress when that little guy, is he called Mouse?
He says, I invented her.
I put her in there for you.
Did you see her?
And little things like that.
And the conversation about the guy who betrays them when he says, I know this steak is just a load of zeros and ones, but I also know it's the best steak I've ever eaten in my life.
Choosing to blue pill and go back into the Matrix.
I used to think that surely no one would do that, but I do think that's most of the normies.
But taking Neo's position and knowing that everything from history to Well, especially history.
History is a biggie, isn't it?
Yeah, looking at every war differently.
You know, you and I have always loved our military history and obviously history, if you look at it in that way, is a history of warfare.
But to reassess every war that ever took place through the eyes of the awake, it's quite an interesting one, isn't it?
It is.
It's a biggie.
It is.
It's almost as though We live in, well again it's the Matrix isn't it, that there are these two, at least two realities.
There's the reality on the ground for, I mean say for example we'd been a fighting age in World War II, World War II would have been our massive adventure in which we'd either have lived or died and we'd have invested everything in these experiences and they would have felt very, very, very real and we would have believed all the propaganda because why not and so on.
And then you take a step... We would have been James and Richard Coward, wouldn't we?
We would have been.
As per your books.
But we'd have...
Then you take a step back from that and you realize that World War II and World War I and the French Revolution and pretty much every war was was a bit like the Hunger Games or a bit like the Squid Game.
It was staged, they were arranged for the benefit of an elite and we were all just, we kind of, humans, were all just bit players.
I mean, I'm not necessarily saying that the elites aren't human, although I've got my doubts about that.
I think, have you gone down that rabbit hole?
I've probed around the edges of it.
As has been pointed out to us before, there's no point in going down bits of the rabbit hole before you're ready for it.
You have to tumble through it at a pace and you've got to take it in order.
There's no point in going straight to lizard-headed beings from another planet unless you've got to just how evil the Cabal are first, for instance.
Although, you know the bit from Ephesians I mentioned last time, the rulers of the darkness of this world, which Paul talks about in his letters to the Ephesians, and the rulers in the original Greek is archons, As I understand it, Archon.
So Ruler is a translation of Archon.
Now, what are the Archons?
The Archons are the evil lizard people, supposedly.
Right.
Yeah.
There's just heaps of stuff.
I was listening to this podcast the other day, or maybe it was a lecture given by Graham Hancock.
Do you remember Fingerprints of the Gods?
I used to think that Graham Hancock was this kind of
wanky chancer who was basically ripping off Erich von Daniken, who himself was a sort of Danish chancer, who'd noticed a few sort of swirly lines on the Nazca Plains and whatever, and a few images that looked like people with wearing space helmets and had built this elaborate fantasy about... But no, I mean, I now realize that the whole history of the world that we get taught is
is a sort of sanitized narrative possibly created by heaven knows you the Jesuits.
This is the problem what that the more you know the more you realize you don't know and the more
Side holes we've been here before that we just you don't know where to go do you don't know don't know what to make and at the same time you've got this problem where I mean like in like on my telegram chat group you've got people saying yeah David Ike um he's controlled opposition he's a he's a freemason um he'd never have been he'd never be still alive if you're allowed to stay this say this stuff and then then against that you've got well Gareth Ike seems a seems a decent stand-up guy he's fighting and and
And when I see, you know, when I've listened to David, he says lots of sensible stuff and puts it into perspective.
It's, you know, rhinoformic.
Again, I've got people in my Twitter group saying things like, look at the suit of armour, that's a kind of a senior masonic symbol, and so is his checkerboard flute, you know, they're playing with us, they're toying with us, they're giving us hopium.
I'm not even sure whether maybe you and I are not actually secretly working for the Cabal at this point.
Well, they're not paying us enough, are they?
They bloody aren't.
They sodding well aren't.
No, I know.
So if we are under their control, could we have a rise, please?
A Christmas bonus at least.
That would be nice.
Yeah, I know.
What would your price be, Dick?
For what?
Selling out.
Selling out, working for the cabal.
You know what?
It was something that Loza touched on during your live podcast thing the other month, that he never used to understand how when in war films that someone is captured by the other side, say the Nazis, and they're told, you can join us or die.
And if they're Christians or Jews or what have you, they stick to their faith and they happily accept death.
And Lawrence said, well, Back then, I always thought, well, obviously you'd say you'll join them.
I mean, it's going to save your life, isn't it?
You join them.
But now I'm like him at the stage where, no, I died before I went over to their side, because it simply wouldn't be an honest transition.
You know, you would never be able to live with yourself.
Once you're awake and your eyes are open to it, And you've taken the white pill.
There is no going back.
Can you see yourself becoming unchristian?
It's not going to happen, is it?
Oh, well, that's no, no, no, obviously not.
No, no, no.
I was thinking more of what what what material things they could show us the kingdoms of the world.
And I was thinking, well, would I do it if I were given Britain, obviously, Europe.
Oh, you're thinking big.
Oh, yeah.
Well, my price is quite high, Dick.
We're not talking millions, even billions of pounds here.
We're talking which Jesus tempted on the in the wilderness.
I. I would if they gave me.
Africa.
I like Africa.
South America.
Europe, obviously.
North America.
Australasia, because I've never been to New Zealand.
Southeast Asia and India, obviously.
I think I'd let them keep China.
I'm quite into Russian now, I started reading Russian literature.
And if I could just make those, be in charge of those, and make them back to how they ought to be, you know, I mean, obviously, in this country.
It sounds like you're being offered a pretty good deal in this.
If you're allowed to run them as you will, but not for the cabal, then it's not quite Deal yeah, I think I think really if I put these demands to them, it's it's a bit like are you watching succession?
I think they discuss it for a moment and they'd come back to you and go.
Yeah I'm afraid we Can't deal It's gonna be like succession, isn't it?
It is.
Well, do you remember that the scene where Greg Greg tries to negotiate with?
What's he called?
Logan Roy.
And Greg says, you know, well, what are you offering me?
And Logan says, that's not how it works.
But I'm very much in the Greg camp.
I've always felt that they ought to make you an offer you can't refuse rather than you trying to He could have won Greg over there and then.
A million, couldn't he?
He could have got Greg quite easily, but he just felt like he was dealing with a minnow, didn't he?
Greg is key to that whole thing, isn't he?
I'm loving Greg.
Listen, I haven't seen the most recent episode, have you?
I think I'm one episode behind myself because unlike a lot of people I know, If something is available, they will watch every episode nonce, end to end.
They'll binge terribly.
We don't binge.
It's an episode of something every night.
No, exactly.
I spent an hour in here, in the shed, painting before I go in to watch TV.
So, can I show you the current one?
Yeah, you do.
Very nice.
Very good.
Very good.
What is he, Arnham or?
He is Arnham and I'd made the mistake of referring to him as a para and he is not.
Oh is he line apart?
No, he is airborne.
Because he's got the badge, the cat badge of the South Staffordshire Regiment.
Right.
I took the photo.
Well, that's glider pilots, isn't it?
Gliders, gliders.
No, no, they're glider-born.
So he's not a... Yeah, okay, glider-born, but he's not, yeah, he's not, okay, he's not a paratrooper.
Yeah, so lots came in.
So he's got almost identical kit, but tiny details like that, which I absolutely love to be called out on.
So yeah, he's British airborne.
I deliberately chose to make him South Staffs because it'd be a little bit different.
And he was a lovely chap, the guy I modeled for me.
He got into the whole Arnhem thing when he, as a kid, he did an exchange with Dutch family.
And it happened to be in Arnhem and he knew nothing about it as a kid and he came back knowing everything and it's been his lifelong passion.
So all of his kit is original and, you know, therefore accurate for my painting.
And so, yeah, he was a really good thing.
And have you seen the film which ties in nicely with what's currently on Netflix, The Forgotten I think it's pretty good.
Pretty good.
I'm relieved.
I thought you were going to say you like that.
You thought I thought it was pants.
But no, because it could have gone down that terrible remake of Das Boot.
Yeah.
You know, the one with Das Scheisse.
Yeah.
How they shoehorned lesbians into a drama about a submarine.
This is Dick.
This is one of my my buddies that every single every single Netflix or Sky series now has the statutory lesbian couple.
So I'm watching the thing about
There's one on Disney at the moment about the drugs that the Sackler family, those drugs that have kind of destroyed middle America, the opioids and the Sackler family which was responsible for making these things and it shows the sort of the planning of these drugs which are marketed as non-addictive and about their effects on small-town America and stuff.
So you go to Maine to a mining town in Maine in 1986.
And guess what?
There is a black lesbian down the down the pit.
I just I just don't believe that.
I don't believe there were black lesbians down the pit in Maine in 1986.
It just she's been put in there.
And I mean, in that BBC series, the really crap one about the submarine.
Again, she's having a lesbian relationship with, you know, nothing Jon Snow.
Can you believe that?
With Jon Snow's squeeze?
You know nothing Jon Snow.
Yeah.
Who's whose dad is a clan chief.
Her.
Yeah.
So everywhere, every single bloody thing.
And it's just it wears you down.
Lesbians, thousands of them.
So what were we saying before that?
What prompted that run?
Saying that you quite liked The Forgotten Battle, the film.
I did.
The glider that didn't quite go on and comes down in Vulture and where I have been.
I've taken part in the iconic reenactment there.
It's fantastic isn't it?
It's a lovely place.
It's spooky and weird.
And you wouldn't like to have fought there with all those.
Well, there was a Napoleonic engagement there.
One of the earliest British involvements in the Napoleonic Wars was there.
Yeah.
They all died of malaria, didn't they?
Or something similar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Horrible fever.
Yes.
It's weird that you went there for the Napoleonic thing, because I went there with 47 RM Commando.
This was the stage when there was still enough veterans around to make a proper coach load.
And I went there and I met some of the people who were on the, not just the commandos, but some of the people on the boats, which had to kind of zip around being shelled by these enormous concrete gun emplacements and so on.
Yeah, it was It was it was interesting.
And I thought that I thought that that film, that Sky film, sorry, Netflix film captured all.
It was pretty good.
The only false note, I thought, was the actual glider pilot, who was too much to me like a 21st century youth parachuted into the role of a 1944 glider pilot.
I thought that was just slightly off.
And the way he got into Canadian uniform so quickly became one of them.
I mean, glider pilots were meant to make their own way back, weren't they?
Although I've heard recently they were trained on PIATs.
The glider pilots were, once they'd landed, they fought as ground troops.
So they were supposed to kind of embed themselves in with their unit.
they ceased to be, you know, pilots and they became infantry at that point.
Right.
But I agree, it was bizarre that he...
I would have thought that he would have been sent back to his own...
The change of uniform.
Yeah.
It just seemed odd.
You know, what was wrong with the Denison smock and the para helmet?
And the fact that the advancing Canadians would have had a spare set of kit that would have fitted him, it just seemed a bit much.
That's a good thought, yes.
I hadn't thought about that.
I suppose, you know, if they're at the sharp end, they're probably not going to have the luxury of spare uniforms.
Yeah, it was nice to see elements that you don't often see in war films like, you know, the Canadians fighting.
There was a sympathetic German character, you know, that had been recruited from the local Dutch, which happened a lot more than anyone's prepared to admit.
And, you know, there was some nice little cameos there.
So it was, yeah, I enjoyed it immensely and, yeah, recommend it.
Yeah.
This is starting to sound like Culture Corner, isn't it?
Well, obviously it's slightly more sophisticated.
I know you want to veer away from that, but I like to talk about the shit that we watch.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not dissing it.
I'm just, I was merely making an observation.
I'm trying to think what other stuff that I've seen recently that I haven't talked about on London Callings.
We don't want to Actually, why not?
No, no.
What are the other things?
You think of that briefly and I'm going to think about the other things that I, yeah, so you started off talking about your Oxford days as the crown type of thing.
And the one thing I wanted to finish with that one, by the way, was to say that I want to be in it because I visited you frequently in your time at Oxford.
You came in your jackpot.
I was the weirdo artist brother.
Do you remember when you came in your jackpack?
I was fresh back from Kathmandu from a few months of overlanding in my gap year and I had the standard uniform of the fast kid who's just come back from Kathmandu and I was dressed almost like in Motley.
It was like Motley, yeah.
And you thought I was the dog's bollocks and I must have appeared as quite a Novelty to, well, yeah, it was good.
I enjoyed your Oxford days immensely.
No, you did.
You did.
You were an adornment.
So I want someone good playing me.
No, you, I mean, in some ways you were actually there because you came up so often.
You were welcomed.
You were welcomed by all.
I mean, you know, Even I recall Dave Cameron knew who Dave was.
Yeah, so there we are.
Whatever happened to him?
What was his name again?
Dave?
Dave Ferguson?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Anyway, go on.
Go on.
I was thinking about him on my way home tonight.
For some reason he popped into my head.
And how will history judge him?
Definitely as an also-ran in the list of Conservative Prime Ministers.
He'll be alongside Theresa May.
I don't even... I'm not even sure there is going to be history after this, is there?
Do you think?
God, there's a bleak thought.
I just know, well, one we've learned is it's written by the victors.
So it's sort of like it all depends, doesn't it?
I mean, certainly if we do win, I want to see a Nuremberg where the journalists turning out some of the stuff that's coming out into the papers at the moment.
And I don't read a paper at all, but you get enough filtering through that.
It just makes me hate those who share your profession.
I know you don't really count yourself as one of them, but there should be a day of reckoning where these people are held to account for their complicity in the takedown of society as we know it.
It happened after World War II, didn't it?
They were on the gallows alongside the rest of the war criminals.
I don't know, is that right?
I'm not saying I necessarily would like to see them swinging from the gibbet, but you know, I'd like to see them locked up for sure.
But it's not going to happen, is it?
I'm going to get away with it.
I don't know what's going to happen because I can't see into the future.
And I've been told that astrology is a thing that one shouldn't do.
Not that it would spell things out very clearly.
Anyway, I mean, the implications of what we know is happening, and you know, the dark side's plans, the implications are so vast.
How could it When you know that this has been planned over centuries, when you know how evil the bad guys are, when you know how utterly compromised most people are, either by greed or fear, or I don't know why there's many, fear and greed.
Corruption.
Corruption, yeah exactly, of some kind.
It's not something that can be ended with a You know, a change of government or no, that's the thing that that that we've reached the point in history where this is this is the watershed moment.
This is this is the most epochal thing that's ever happened in modern history, isn't it?
It's just absolutely transformative.
And the world that will emerge when the good guys win will be a bit like those thousand years that we're told, you know, awaits the good Christians where it's all going to be peace on earth and it's going to be fantastic.
I mean, I think if it works, if this is when it's going to happen, it's going to be amazing for those who are around.
But I don't see how it could be resolved without the most tremendous turmoil and destruction the like of which has never been seen.
That's the problem.
It's weird, isn't it, that knowing what you say is true and yet I'm still getting on my bicycle in the morning and cycling to a job via the swimming pool and doing my lengths.
It feels like fishing while Rome burns.
It's a weird, weird world.
We have to carry on if everything's just all right, don't we?
This is a point I was going to make.
You can't act, you can't behave in a way that it is genuinely the end of the world.
No.
This is actually the point I'm going to make before we go because I've got this one of those Moroccan style ducks that waitrose do in the oven right now.
I know nothing of your waitrose Moroccan duck.
You know not of my waitrose Moroccan duck?
No, not of it.
I'm sure it's a thing, but no, I'm not familiar with it.
Well, I basically, after my ride this morning, I stopped off at Waitrose for the mask confrontation, of which there was none, because, okay, so everyone was wearing a mask, apart from my friend Sam, who works in, he's totally on side, And another staff member was not wearing one, and I did see one other person and that was it.
So I didn't have my confrontation, I just, it was a bit like beating the bounds of the parish, you know, just establishing that, no, I'm still not wearing, I'm still not wearing the mask.
Yeah, and I rang up Boy at home and I said, should we have duck or should I make a beef stew?
He said, duck, duck, duck!
So he completely rejected my beef stew.
Anyway, the point I was going to make is the one that I think it was Václav Havel made about the Velvet Revolution and about resisting the Soviet tyranny and stuff, or the Communist tyranny.
And he said what really made the difference were not the explicitly political groups, but simply people determined to get on with their lives outside the kind of the state-controlled communist apparatus.
That in other words, living well, living normally, is your best It's an act of defiance in its own right.
In its own right.
So yes, I'm off shooting pheasants in Cornwall tomorrow and I went hunting last week, as you know, which was just fantastic.
And, yeah, there was part of it that thinks, well, actually, isn't there a march you should have gone on instead?
Shouldn't you have gone, you know, shouldn't be going to York this way?
I mean, I do feel bad about not going to York, but I'm not.
I wish I were.
But everything we do that celebrates the old world, the good things in life, the world that they are trying to take away from us, you know, I mean, for example, One of the things that the powers that be, the evil ones, you only have to look at Agenda 2030 in the UN, you only have to look at what the World Economic Forum is saying.
They want to shunt us all, those of us who are still alive, into the cities where they can control us, where we can eat insects, where we can live in pods and have their kind of urbanisation.
Exactly, all this stuff.
Is inimical to people who live in rural communities, to people who are bloody-minded, cussed, want to live their own lives, want to do things like hunt foxes because their ancestors have done it and it's traditional and it's a beautiful way of celebrating the man's relationship with nature, red in tooth and claw, you know, the fact that
We've known for centuries that God gave man dominion over the animals.
All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field, the fowls of the air and the fishes of the sea, and whatsoever walketh through the paths of the seas.
This is the deal, and up until very recently we've understood this.
We have a relationship with nature and we are its guardians, but ultimately we're in charge.
So celebrating that is our duty.
It's not just a frivolous thing.
We are actually staking claim on the kind of world we ought to be living in.
So I think it's not a bad thing.
I think it's a good thing.
Those of us who enjoy our third Wednesday drinks, and I go every Wednesday, it does feel like an act of defiance because they closed the pubs for a while and it was quite obvious why, because that's where rebellions are going to start.
And those of us who meet up regularly, we are Just reaffirming our faith each time by doing that, whether Christian or just the faith of a rebel, it feels like an act of defiance.
So yeah, I'm completely on board with that, you know, living your life to its fullest as an act of defiance in its own right.
Living your best life.
And a positive note to finish on as well.
No, I think it's called the Via Positiva, although again this is a kind of complicated theological issue that I'm not fully on board with yet.
I need to do a few more pods with with vicars and such like, so they can explain this strange and wondrous new world.
This is why I want spiritual advice from those who've been doing it longer than me.
And the next meeting we have, hopefully we'll have our friendly vicar on board with us.
The idea being that it was everything you ever wanted to know about God, but were afraid to ask.
Ask the vicar, that sort of thing.
They may not have all the answers, but they quite often come up with interesting questions in reply to your questions.
Inevitably, a good vicar is a wonderful person to have a pint with, really is.
I recommend it.
So you're going to go and do your Moroccan duck?
I've got some duck waiting for me, Dick.
Yeah.
A duck waits for no man.
You do that, duck.
I can hear the chink of plates as it's prepared.
I've got an airborne officer to paint and probably some trash on TV to watch.
So, yeah.
I'm really glad.
I'm glad that we could fit in a podcast because there's been lots of... Probably there will be disappointment.
There will be sadness that there was no yes, no game.
But I think everyone's a no these days.
Yeah.
The no game.
Yeah.
Oh dear.
Yeah.
Sadly.
Yeah, sadly.
What times.
Yeah.
Well, just a gentle reminder that if you love me and Dick, and of course you do, please support me on Patreon and Subscribestar, or buy a special friend badge, yeah that's good, at dellingpoleworld.com.
Yeah, Dick and I, we're going to do more stuff, aren't we, Dick?
We've got plans.
I would love to do this full-time, so if you'll throw enough money at us, this will free me from the bonds of my day job and I can concentrate on arranging amazing festivals and ever better podcasts.
I could illustrate your Some podcast idea.
That sort of thing.
I've got skills that I can bring to this party.
We just need somebody with a fuck tonne of money to just chuck some money at us.
There must be such people.
Really?
Sort yourselves out already, rich people.
Sort yourselves out.
Yeah.
Sort yourselves out.
Just give us a fuck tonne of money to do our shit.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Right.
OK.
Good.
On that note.
All right.
Bye bye.
Bye bye.
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