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March 12, 2021 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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James and Laura's Chinwag #15
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Yeah, yeah, today's busy news day.
We should go in.
OK.
Is it a busy news day?
Well, I know you're going to say we don't... Is it?
Yeah, it's busy enough.
Are you not going to talk to me?
Are you going to talk to me about...
Meghan Markle and Piers.
Not that much.
Look, I think it's, you know, I get that.
I get that it's a distraction.
I get that.
But I know I'll go with you.
I can.
I mean, we can do seven, seven minutes of it because it is a big story.
No, I tell you, I mean, the Piers Morgan thing, of course, is linked to the whole COVID thing.
I mean, I have no time for these conservatives now going Going to the wall for him on that.
Maybe, maybe you would defend him.
I'm like, what?
What's wrong with you people?
What?
Yeah.
Do you honestly think?
No, I actually, do you know what, Laura?
I'll be honest with you.
I very nearly vomited when I turned to Twitter yesterday.
I don't know why I'm still on Twitter.
It's evil.
No, I know.
I'd love to disconnect.
We've got these vestigial followers, haven't we?
Anyway, I, I saw various conservative people Sticking up for Piers Morgan.
You're safe because I know you like that.
He's not a racist.
I didn't even know Toby had done it.
Yeah, I'll be usual.
I just think blah, blah, blah.
What are you playing at?
Yes, is just pantomime.
You are just helping Piers Morgan.
I know.
I love the way you say.
I love the way you are.
I say Piers rather than Piers.
All right.
Yes, I know.
Exactly.
It's great.
He's somebody who needs defending on anything.
I know, I know.
There was a really good video I recommended the other day by a, he's this kind of brilliant North, North Humbrian.
He's called Morgoth.
Okay.
And Morgoth was, Morgoth was doing, and he does these analyses of, really quite clever, critical analyses of different things.
And he did one on Piers Morgan.
And he captured exactly what he he pretends to be a populist when in fact he is a totalist.
No, he's not.
he's not no no no no he's not we're populist basically he's part of the system yeah yeah i agree with that he plays with with he uses populist methods yeah to advance the um to advance the establishment's interests and it's very interesting that there's one interesting thing he does
which is he has people like those various race baiting types like um a few a few a hush yeah yeah and uh ash sarka and he gets them on yeah and he has this pantomime debate with them So you want to take down Nelson's column, do you?
Well, I, Piers Morgan, think this is frankly ridiculous.
You're off your trolley.
And it's kind of punch and judy.
But what he's doing... No, I agree.
But he's pretending to be against this stuff, but actually he's endorsing it because he's bringing these nutcases, these marginal people.
They shouldn't even be on there.
I agree.
That's right.
So he's making them a thing.
They're not a thing.
They're just irrelevant.
Back in the day, they would have been writing letters in red crayon and ignored by everyone.
Suddenly, Piers Morgan makes them possible, whereas When he has somebody like Tommy Robinson on his sole purpose is to destroy and discredit him see the difference He's bigging up a few of Hirsch and Ash Sarka and all the rest But he's destroying any sign of a real populist revolt against this disgusting woke establishment we've got Well, I think he's a very no.
No, I think he's genuinely nasty.
And I don't.
So I'm going to go back on Twitter now.
I think it's genuinely nasty, which I don't like.
I mean, you you I know people.
I mean, there's loads of stuff.
So let's take Toby, you know, Toby, because he's this is so the Piers Morgan tweet out today that, you know, freedom of speech is the hill he's willing to die on.
And I said, give me a break.
The only hill he's willing to die on is the hill Mark Pierce Morgan.
I mean, he blocks anybody who disagrees with him, including me.
OK, you could say, fair enough.
But I don't even like his style because he shouts over people, he talks over people, he humiliates people.
I mean, someone goes back to me, oh, you're one to talk.
All you do is rant.
And I'm like, yeah, but I'm not on ITV and I don't actually talk over a guest.
And if I was a presenter... You're on something better than ITV.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would hope I wouldn't.
To me, and I would call myself more conservative than populist.
I know they use the label of populist to say anything a lot of people don't disagree with.
So, you know, I get that.
But to me, he's kind of the pantomime conservative villain, right?
If you were on the left and you were thinking, right, who can I guess that just makes conservatives look bad, right?
Piers Morgan is the man you would want out there because his style is quite nasty.
And he's not really that conservative at all.
He's completely self-obsessed.
And of course, the critical test for me is, and I want to sag off Toby now, is he had, and I tweeted last night, I was like, I would have preferred if Pearce Morgan had been fired for trashing the mental health of the entire British population for the last year.
Right, because this is supposedly the reason why he's gone is because he questioned Megan's mental health and her suicidal ideation.
Which is niche.
Everyone's saying, oh, they're firing him because he says he's being racist or he's just disagreeing with Megan.
Now, we would probably disagree at that point.
I actually think it's more niche than that.
And it seems to be quite a specific point in relation to what she has said about her mental health.
But aside from that, what was I ranting on about?
And this is a rant.
He's just, as you say, to me, he's the pantomime conservative villain.
There's no nuance in it.
As you said, he completely bigs up people who shouldn't even be on that telly.
Because remember, I saw on Laurence Fox's tweet, because he's running for mayor now, right?
And GMB, we're going to have him on a few days ago, supposedly.
And then he gets the email, of course, the night before going, sorry, you're not going on.
Because Morgan probably vetoed it.
So as you say, he will have on like completely, you know, people really far to the left, give them huge exposure, but he won't have Lauren Fox on because as you know, it will give him exposure, which is exactly what Morgan doesn't want.
So the idea that Lauren Fox and Toby Young and the rest, I'm going to take the high road here.
I think I'm going to defend Piers Morgan.
Piers Morgan has done more damage to this country By pushing this COVID fascism in the last year, I have done probably genuine personal mental health damage to individuals, to your granny, to your auntie, to people who are hiding in their house, like actual damage to their mental health in the last year.
than probably anybody else on that COVID fascist aisle.
That, to me, from now on, is the critical test.
If you have collaborated with this garbage, not just garbage, dangerous, dangerous garbage, I don't want to know you.
I don't want to talk to you.
It's not that I particularly dislike you, although I don't like him at all.
But I saw Melanie Phillips again in the Times going, oh, you know, Lawrence Fox, He's putting freedom of speech and the COVID stuff all in together and he's just wrong.
And I'm like, you know what, you know what, Melanie, I just actually don't even, I'm not even interested in what you have to say anymore.
It's over.
Yeah.
You used to be interesting.
You're not interesting.
Morgan is actually dangerous.
I'm not interested in what you have to say.
I'm certainly not interested in defending you because my, I know we've said before we, we defend principle and I, I do that to an extent, but I also think, you know what, you actually have to do something to earn my loyalty.
You know, if I'm going to spend my day defending you, I'm not going to defend someone, as I said, who has basically attacked the rule of law, civil liberties, who has proposed a system of apartheid for the British public.
Going forward in relation to this ridiculous fascist passport scheme.
So no, I'm not going to defend you.
And there's plenty of reasons... And then they've flown off to Antigua over Christmas, having taken the moral high ground.
And that's exactly... He should have been fired for that.
I mean, you know, of course he could say, you know, he's being fired for the wrong thing.
And I agree, as I said, he should have been fired for the attack on the mental health of the British people, never mind for the attack on the mental health of Of Meghan Markle.
That's really what she's been inspired for.
But you know what?
I'll settle for this.
And people, as I said, Toby and the rest of them, you know, oh God, you know, I just, you know, I, we must be so, we really must go to the wall on this, on this, on this freedom speech thing.
This is weird.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, oh no, but Laura, I don't understand it.
They'll come for you next.
They'll cancel you next.
And I'm like, you know what?
I don't care.
I don't care.
Can you imagine Pears?
Yeah.
Riding to the rescue of Toby Young.
Can you imagine Pierce ever saying anything nice or doing anything like that for anybody?
Have you ever had him on in relation to promoting the Free Speech Union, which is a really important initiative of him?
Have you ever had Toby Young on?
I don't think he's... I'm not sure if he's had him on GMB, but kind of unlikely.
Have you ever had anybody coherent on GMB in relation to this COVID fascism?
No.
He had Peter Hitchens on, I think, earlier.
No.
No, I mean, he is, he is appalling.
He's awful.
And yeah, to see all this, you know, this complete garbage.
It's just a... Here's Toby from the Free Speech Union, get Piers Morgan back on GMB.
No.
What is wrong with... Can you just go and call your mate now?
What is wrong with you?
What, seriously, what is wrong with you?
Oh no, but you know... Do you know who else he is?
Piers Morgan, among the other many evil things he is.
He's, um, have you, are you familiar with the Hunger Games movies?
No, sorry.
I know the Gist, I know the Dystopian.
I don't like that actor.
You know, I don't watch Hollywood movies.
I don't watch any of it.
The Hunger, Laura, I know that you do, you do quite like some elements of popular culture.
The Hunger Games movies are absolutely iconic and they're relevant now more than ever.
I mean, you know what they're about, don't you?
I know it's dystopian and that there are teenagers going around killing people or killing each other or something.
Yeah, I mean, I get it.
So there's this place called Panem, which is basically America, and it's divided into districts.
Yeah.
And there is the capital, which is corrupt, decadent.
It's basically the World Economic Forum.
It's the kind of people who go to Davos every year, in the capital.
They are sexually perverse.
They wear these itray fashions.
Meanwhile, the ordinary people, basically the deplorables, the Trump base, are divided up into districts.
There's the wood chopping district and there's the mining district.
They're ruled over brutally by this disgusting elite.
And to entertain this grotesque elite, they have this annual competition called the Hunger Games, where a representative from each district They fight to the death, and if you win, you get a good life and stuff.
Anyway, the guy who presents this show is somebody called Cesar Flickerman, who's played by Stanley Cicci.
He's a grotesque character.
And this, in a way, is what is happening now.
Piers Morgan serves that function in that He arranges this sort of bread and circuses.
He's this pantomime, this Punch and Judy show.
Meanwhile, the people of Panem are being ground down and destroyed, which is exactly what's happening now in the world.
It's the whole vaccine tyranny and the whole lockdown tyranny being imposed on us by this weird elite, by corrupt people like Anthony Fauci and Neil Fogey.
I know, I know.
What can I say?
And Piers Morgan is their cheerleader.
Yeah.
No, he's awful.
He's terrible.
He's terrible.
People, people on our side shouldn't be defending them.
You should get a grip.
And I just, I don't have any time for it.
I remember him really humiliating some pro-life, like some pro-life speaker, not like a big, you know, this is the thing, humiliate, not like the politicians, and as I said, people who I think are fair game, but just like random little people.
And even people who aren't on your side, who are really not on your side, you're still looking at it going, Like, this isn't right, like, what you're doing.
You know, you nearly have sympathy for whatever transgender guy or person you have on there.
You know, you're just barking at them.
It's awful.
But that's enough of Piers Morgan.
I'm glad we agree on that.
Would you want to do Meghan and Harry quickly?
Will we just do them quickly?
Because, I mean, I think it's an important values issue.
You do them so that I don't have to.
Just rant for five minutes.
I don't care.
No, I mean, I just...
You know, I don't agree.
I don't certainly don't believe a lot of a lot of what she says.
I mean, but it just comes down to the to the one point, right, is that you don't even even if you agree with everything you said.
OK, so let's park what you agree.
You don't go on national TV or international TV and trash your own family.
Who who who does that?
Right.
Sorry, hang on a second.
You're saying that she does have some points?
Are you?
No, no.
Not really, surely?
No, no.
I like to part... I think just the woman should just shut up.
Yeah, well, I agree.
Well, that's my point.
I agree.
No, I'm saying if I'm arguing with my lefty and they're going to go, well, they are like, what can we actually agree on?
Well, we agree she gave an interview and we can agree she shouldn't have given that interview.
But I tell you who I blame more.
And the viewers, I actually now have an issue with the British public about this, because what I don't buy is, poor Harry, You know, poor Harry.
He's just been manipulated by this woman who's dragged him off to California.
It's his family she's trashing.
And he always, to me, he's always wanted out.
And the only way you get out of the royal family is by marrying an American divorcee.
So, as manipulative as she may be, she was only knocking on an open door there, right?
He knew the rules!
That's the only way to find an American divorcee!
Yeah, you can get out of this!
So, she comes along and he's thinking, finally!
I can get out of it.
And he's sitting there, you know, I'm like, man up.
If this is the future of our young men, we are in serious trouble.
He's sitting there letting his wife just trash his whole family.
I mean, she didn't even criticize her own dad.
She said the relationship is lost, but Oprah didn't goad her on there and say, well, you know, tell us more.
So she, she refrained from trashing her own dad.
She obviously didn't criticize her mom because she's still close to her, but the rest of them, Your sister-in-law, Kate Middleton, supposedly they got on really well, Kate and Harry.
Yeah, I'm just going to go for her, and I'm just going to go for the entire institution.
And you're just looking at him, and you probably didn't watch it, did you?
And there he is, and he's off in his chicken coo, and you're just like, wow.
I mean, you're just like, wow.
So they're living an authentic life.
They have a chicken.
This is why you do have to watch it because you are a journalist.
They're living an authentic life because this is California, right?
An authentic life.
Chicken coup in their massive mansion among the authentic celebs who we know are really authentic.
And you're just looking at this and you're thinking, I've never seen anything, such bad behaviour right in front of me.
This trashing of your family right in front of me.
You're just like, this is incredible.
So to me, that's what makes it interesting.
Yes, go on.
Do you know how many houses Oprah's got?
Because Oprah's self-made.
A friend of mine went to paint, you know, do some paintings, I think, of her house.
And she's got, I think, it's either five or seven joined together.
And each one of these things is a mansion with huge grounds in its own right.
She's got five houses joined together and like all her mates go and I mean, nice work if you can get it.
Yeah, yeah, my issue isn't with Oprah.
She's self-made.
She's been doing this for 20 years.
I do think it must have been hard, right?
20, 25 years ago, black woman, I'm sure there was a lot of discrimination there.
So my issue is not with her.
Are you coming out all over woke on me suddenly?
No, I'm not!
Is this the woke order?
These things can be true, right?
I don't feel sorry for her.
I don't feel sorry for her.
I'm neutral.
She doesn't generate any emotions to me.
But what is worrying is, of course, the generational split here, because about a half of millennials are siding with the Sussexes.
What they've done here is what millennials always want to do.
If you don't like your job, jack it in.
If you don't like your family, jack it in.
If you don't like your gender, jack it in.
Duty, tradition and all of that is worth nothing.
gender jack it in duty tradition and all of that is worth nothing it's it what what is worth something is being on international tv and and and air Would you do this to me?
And if your kids, and this is the only thing I tweeted, or one of the few things I tweeted about it, if your kids are on their side, you need to have a chat with them.
You know, would you do this to me?
Would you go on national TV and trash your parents?
Do you really think it's a good thing for Harry just to abandon his entire family?
He may never speak to his father again.
He'll never speak to his brother again.
The two children, the cousins, will probably very rarely meet.
It does raise important issues.
And there was one other thing I was going to say.
Yeah, I think Harry's getting off lightly.
But that's because the British media, I think, feel guilty for the way they treated him back at Diana's funeral and more or less made him walk behind her coffin.
So the British public have guilt issues going on here.
They're letting Harry off easily.
But Meghan is obviously terrible.
But she was knocking on an open door there.
And it's just incredible to see such bad behaviour being lauded.
And it's not just that the two generations don't understand each other, it's the complete opposite.
So the older generation, doing your duty, doing your job, respecting your family despite their flaws, right?
And not complaining too much, that's a virtue.
Whereas for the millennials, getting out of any difficult situation, be it job, family, and telling everything, that's actually courage.
But the older generation would say, no, that's completely the opposite.
It isn't courageous.
But I mean, this is my final thing is, you know, when you're asking, I think she did tell a lot of truth in that.
And the truth was, and she said this at the beginning of the interview, is that she was naive going into it, which I believe.
And she actually said the reality didn't match the fantasy.
Right.
So she's and she said that one of the tours is exhausting, which is true.
So the foreign tours are exhausting.
She's over there in Africa, I think, and having just had just had Archie.
So she's really tired.
And then she's thinking, oh, my God, what have I signed up to?
I've got 20 or 30 years of this.
I'm going to be completely wrecked.
If you're not in Australia or Africa exhausted, you're up in Middlesbrough, right, opening a cement factory at 3pm on a Wednesday in January and it's 2 degrees.
Right, so there's nothing glamorous in that.
She's thinking, well I don't want to be doing that.
I don't want that job.
Yeah, so no one wants it.
No, that's absolutely the point.
So she's thinking, oh my God, I don't want that either.
And then the press aren't very nice to you, right?
They're pretty nasty.
And you're over here in a foreign country with family you don't know.
So she's basically told the truth.
The reality doesn't matter to fantasy.
And so she wanted out.
That's all it comes down to.
You know, I don't think it's right.
And I think Harry should have done better.
But it's, yeah, as I say, if you want to be treated like royalty, become a celebrity.
If you want to be treated like garbage, become royalty.
Right?
Because when you're a celebrity in LA, all the attention is on you.
You are what counts.
But when you are in the children's hospital on a Thursday, it's the kids are what counts.
When Kate is touring the kids' hospital, she's not that important.
It's the sick kids that are important, or the workers in the Middlesbrough cement factory.
They're the people who count.
So, I mean, Megan thought she was getting the celeb life with the tiara.
No, no, no, no.
No, you're getting the grudge with the tiara.
So that's the thing.
The broader problem here, I read this because somebody, I think, did a A tweet thread, I mean, it was an article.
Somebody on Twitter pointed me to an article he'd written.
What's he called?
I forget.
Go on.
An admiral, maybe.
He said, look, we've lost, people like you and me, we've lost the cultural war.
We lost it a long time ago.
And this is normally the kind of defeatist attitude that I deplore and actually unfriend people for, etc.
But actually, I think his general point is right.
Meghan and Harry are the embodiment of a culture which you and I despise and all our listeners utterly despise.
But actually, this is this is the culture we live in now.
We live in a culture where Piers Morgan, despite being nauseatingly, grovellingly woke, can yet get get sacked allegedly or allegedly for that sort of les majesté for somebody who's not even a even member of the royal family, just some random Random Hollywood gold digger.
But this is this is where we are.
And I think that that our job as far as what you said just then about how children ought to respect their parents and they ought to, you know, you don't diss your family in public and stuff like that.
These are these are values which really don't have They're not in fertile ground at the moment.
So what we have to do, people like us, is, I'm afraid, take to the hills, take to the forests, like partisans, if you like.
And we are fighting this guerrilla war against the prevailing culture.
And that's not a bad place to be, by the way.
The knight belongs to Charlie.
We are basically the Viet Cong now.
Or the Viet Minh, actually.
We're fighting the French.
We're not engaging in set-piece battles.
But remember, if you know your history, you know what comes at the end of the French rule in Indochina?
You don't, do you, Laura?
Well, yeah, I do.
You don't know enough about war, do you?
Because you're a girl.
Do you not know about D&B and Foo?
I know a lot more.
D&B and Foo?
No, I don't know that.
I mean, if you are, if you are the Viet Minh, which we are in this scenario, it's bloody awesome.
I mean, like the French have this, this well defended base, Dien Bien Phu.
And what we do is we do the impossible.
We drag our guns through the jungle, up into the heights, up these seemingly impassable tracks, unwatched by the French helicopters or aircraft, whatever.
And we then, we destroy them.
Isn't that great?
That's a long-time hint.
You have gone for a military analogy.
This plan is not new or original, I'm afraid.
Because there was a book published again... Did I say it was?
No, I know.
There was a book published in the Catholic world about three or four years ago called the Benedict Option.
And it was similar.
It was basically... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll tweet it out.
It's good.
It was similar to what you were saying.
And obviously you're not Catholic.
But they were similar.
It was an American book.
They said, look, it's over.
We've lost on everything.
We've lost on abortion.
We've lost on gay marriage.
We're going to lose on the transgender stuff.
It's over.
We can't influence really the politicians or public opinion anymore.
All you can do is save yourself and your family.
And this is what the Benedictine monks did after the fall of Rome.
They went to the monasteries, they kept the Christianity alive and eventually they won through.
So this, this is gone.
This has been in the States for a while.
Um, and I certainly, you know, I've read the book, but actually I think I'm going to reread it again.
Um, and there, you know, but I think even by you and me doing this though, we haven't gone full Benedict, right?
Because they would just be like, just don't bother with any of it.
Delete your Twitter, Twitter account, delete everything.
Don't bother with the podcast because it's over.
Just save yourself, save your family and your immediate community if you can.
Um, and that's it.
But then part of me thinks, You know, there is something selfish about that in terms of just completely cutting loose and letting everybody else fall down the rabbit hole.
So I try and balance it.
But yeah, I mean, there's often loads of times during the week where like, yeah, I can't be doing with this anymore.
This is taking up too much of my energy.
But yeah, it's a good book and it could definitely be applied, I think, to anybody who isn't, you know, as classic as I would be.
I think it's always a, you know, it's always a balance, it's always a debate, isn't it?
How, you know, how much in the public eye or how much public work do you want to do?
But we should, I think we've only got about 10 minutes left.
So we should do where we are in this COVID fascism, which, of course, is terrible, is the biggest threat to Western civilization.
They're pushing along with these outrageous vaccine passports.
And I texted you that article that they just dropped in The Spectator about, oh, yeah, probably we're probably going to have to vaccinate the kids.
Did you not see that?
I did see it and I thought it was awful.
I thought it was absolutely disgraceful.
It was like they'd conceded the battle before it had even been fought.
This is what really bothers me a lot about people on our side.
Julia Hartley Brewer, for example, saying, I'm going to get the vaccine because I love my holidays.
Now, no one could have guessed that from following her food every every time Easter or whatever comes along.
She's always jetting off and that's fine.
That's her problem.
What what what she is doing is she is already accepting that we live in a world where these vaccine passports exist.
They don't exist.
So long as there is a block of us and thank goodness for the ethnic minority community, particularly who are particularly Strong on this issue.
So long as we have a decent bloc that says, hang on a second, I'm not going to get vaccinated and I think it's outrageous that you keep me a prisoner in my own country and prevent me from traveling.
As long as we have a bloc The battle is far from over and people who are surrendering preemptively, my contempt is strong.
I think it's wrong.
And it was weird that the spectator wrote that piece.
They should be fighting for the right of people to be able to choose.
Well, I mean, informed consent.
It's simple as that.
Did you see my interview with the Israeli woman?
Oh, I saw.
If you haven't watched it, I think I think it might.
Well, it would tip me over, James.
I know it would.
Laura, it will tip you over, but it's important.
It's if you can force yourself.
Her name is Ilana Rachel Daniel, and she's one of the people.
She lives in Israel and where they are forcing 16 year old girls to take this I know, it's crazy.
people are mrna altering altering substance it's which is not a vaccine and research has shown that that that there have been there's been a massive spike in deaths which can't be attributable to this alleged virus it's it's it's it's obviously the vaccines that are doing it and they're and they're just but they're because of their dodgy deal with pfizer they're just moving forward and They're bulldozing forward.
I mean, it's a bit like they're bulldozing in a settlement.
I've always defended Israel.
Suddenly, it's showing the colors that all the critics of Israel have always said, this is what Israel's like.
It's a brutal fascist state.
And suddenly I'm seeing it.
You know, Netanyahu is forcing this horrible program On the Jews of all people.
You would have thought that there would be lessons from history about conducting sort of Mengele-type experiments on Jews, but apparently not.
Apparently it's okay now.
Well, it's also, and I saw the point, is that if you talk to people now who had the vaccine, they rarely say it to protect my health.
It's exactly as you say, so I can go on holiday, so I can go here, so I can go there.
So that is a form of coercion.
And as someone said, both for testing and medical treatment, you have to give a free And informed consent.
And if you coerce someone, and I think basically threatening to strip them of their civil liberties is a form of coercion, then it's no longer a free consent.
So you've committed a criminal, the nurse who gives it has committed a criminal battery on that person.
And the entire fascist Johnson government has committed yet another massive human rights abuse.
And what people will do again, who've gone along with it from the start, oh, I'll just wear my mask, it'll just be a few minutes.
Okay, I'll just get the kids tested in school, I'll just keep my head down.
Okay, I'll just make the kids have a mask, it's just for a couple.
Okay, I'll just get the vaccine, you know, so I can go on holiday.
And then it's like, you're going to give it to your child.
I mean, seriously, get a grip.
It's been around for nine months.
You have no idea what this is like.
Just, like I said, just some prudence.
Just stand back and consider what you are doing.
Is this really necessary?
I mean, you'll say that I have surrendered now.
We've already accepted We will probably not go abroad again for a while.
Although Greece has said, yeah, you can come as long as you get a negative COVID test, which I can probably live with.
But I will not get on a plane.
That's fine.
I will not go into a pub.
I will not go in a restaurant if I cannot, because you brought in your stupid vaccine passports.
Because I am not getting your stupid vaccine.
And my kids will certainly not get my stupid vaccine.
And that's it.
And I don't care how crappy you want to make my life.
You have to take a stand at some point.
And bodily integrity is a good place to start.
I know this.
One of the people who treats me for my Lyme disease does a lot of other... She's really good.
at treating so-called long COVID, which is actually just post-viral complications.
It's the same you get after you've had flu.
Lots of people get it.
But she said there's been a worrying increase.
At the top of your nose is this thin bony plate with holes in it, and it's called the cribriform plate.
And the cribriform plate is what the fluid passes through in your lymphatic system.
So the lymph, it connects with the hypothalamus.
And if you damage the cribriform plate, then you're going to cause serious complications, particularly with children.
What are they doing to children at the moment?
They are testing them.
They're shoving this stuff right up their nose.
It's so bad.
I don't know why anyone would be content with that.
And damaging the cribriform plate.
Yeah.
And nobody's making a fuss about this.
No, it's incredible what the parents have gone along with, with the abuse of self-isolation regime, with the masking, with the testing.
As I say, I am literally lost for words that people will go along with this.
I find it just, it's just like, what's wrong with you?
These are your children.
You are supposed to be there to defend them.
If someone came and knocked on my door and decided, sort of threatening to shove something up my healthy child's nose, I'd call the police.
But once you, you know, but if it's the NHS and then rescue for obstructing health care workers.
Yeah, yeah.
And Boris, if Boris says it, then it must be.
I just, yeah, I'm lost for words.
Which brings me, actually, I don't normally do this, but oh yeah, because I put in my text message and you didn't even give me any comeback, is that we are now expecting baby number four.
So we are pleased with that.
Well, congratulations.
No, no, no, that is good.
Sorry, I was distracted.
Being a man, you know, we don't get it quite so.
So it, but it's linked because people sometimes actually ask me, are you going to get the vaccine?
And I'm like, I don't drink caffeinated tea.
So no, I am not going to take an experimental MNRA vaccine while pregnant.
I mean, what's wrong with people?
We've got to go now, but many congrats, but listen, there's something, something you've got to do.
And I'm really, this is my new discovery, my new discovery.
I've got, did I mention, I've got a water distiller.
It's the best thing, it's the best new thing I've got.
We have a filter, but not a distiller.
No, no, this takes out all the crap.
When you smell the crap that comes out of the water, the chlorine, the fluoride, all this nasty gunk, and you don't want your kids Yeah, I know.
You don't want that IQ being reduced by fluoride, which is what it does, by the way.
By three IQ points.
Well, this explains a lot because they put fluoride in the water in Ireland.
So I've always grown up with it.
Think how I could... So you could have been that bit... I could have been a sage scientist if I hadn't had all the fluoride.
Think how smart I would be where I could plot to take down my adopted country.
Oh my God.
Yeah, but that probably... We've got to go now because I need to hand over the office to my wife.
OK, but I'm glad we got it in.
I may have talked too fast at some point.
Sorry about that.
No, Laura, that was great.
People are going to be... I tell you, people will be so happy because they've been missing you.
They need you.
They do.
And also, you've delivered that bacon crap that they want.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, wow.
Right.
We've got to go.
OK.
Bye, James.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Thank you.
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