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Feb. 14, 2021 - The Delingpod - James Delingpole
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James and Laura's Chinwag #13
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I think you can multitask.
I'll tell you about my morning first.
Okay good good go on I'm actually buying a coat I'm just finishing that off but I can do these things that work I think you can multitask I'll tell you about my morning first so I'm feeling reasonably perky at the moment because I've been on a horse and when I've been on a horse I'm always happier than when I haven't been on a horse I'm sure.
It's the only thing.
Yes.
The only thing was that we were doing road work because you can't really go... I mean, the fields are hard as iron.
Yes.
So you go on the roads, but the roads are black ice and horses slip just like car tyres.
I mean, you know, it's scary when you feel your horse going under you.
Right.
I'm not a horsey person.
My mother actually did horse ride, but not us.
Well, I mean, it's in the blood of a lot of Irish, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's over in Kildare, though.
You have to be.
Yeah, that's the big horsey country in Horsey County in Ireland.
So then after I'd been riding, I went to the supermarket and I was wandering around the aisles in that slightly kind of I hope nobody comes up to me and accosts me like that awful man did the other day.
Oh, you've got another one?
No, well, I had another one today.
He comes up to me with this really quite a thick mask.
And he says, and I sort of recoil, ready for my defence or my, you know, my rudery or whatever.
Yeah.
And he says, are you James Dellingpole?
And I said, yes.
And he said, I'm a great fan of your podcast and of your novels.
Oh, that's so nice.
And that happens.
I might close that window.
That used to happen to me, but it doesn't happen to me anymore.
No, I did more national media, but it doesn't happen now.
The other thing is because because of I've had Laura deprivation, I mean, we should mention briefly what happened last week.
So last week, last week, while I closed the thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Last week, Divya, what happened was that Laura and I,
recorded a a podcast for you for your delectation and the the internet was really bad not least because my satellite my satellite dish needed replacing and so i i there came a point halfway through where i sort of said this is no good we're going to have to recall so so i recalled but forgot to press the record button and unfortunately
The best part of our chat, wasn't it, was when I went on a rant about Captain T'Pol.
Yeah, you were the best part of the chat, in fairness.
And it was one of those moments, like, it's a bit like the person from Porlock coming to interrupt Coleridge when he's in the middle of his composition.
It's one of those moments that will never be recreated.
You couldn't have gone back and recreated it.
You lose the enemy.
You did ride it, in fairness.
You know, that's always useful.
I meant to ask, though, this is not anything related.
Is it not very cold?
I didn't leave the house for five full days this week because it's too cold for me.
I don't operate on zero temperatures.
Funny you say that.
I think partly living in the country, you definitely get your blood thickens.
Sure.
I think you get used you get used to cold weather as a matter of course.
Secondly, I've got a dog and if you've got a dog.
Yeah, we have a dog.
opt out of walking.
And third, I actually prefer the really cold weather to the less cold weather, because what it means is the ground is frozen, so you don't have to wear wellies or you don't get wet feet, which is what I do every time I go running in the mud.
I just get wet feet.
I like the wind.
I mean, I don't mind it when it's like five degrees and still, but this kind of feels like minus nine.
No, no, I can't be doing with that.
Yeah.
Before we talk about other stuff, isn't it nice just being able to talk about the things that haven't changed?
No, I know.
Because we need to cherish those.
We need to remember.
I'm really worried that Really quite soon, people will start blanking out the world that we lived in before.
Partly because it'll be too painful to remember it, but partly it's because they will have gone along with this brainwashing programme.
Well, it's funny you say that, because as you know, I've been watching Frasier now and again, because it's my only escape.
So I watch Frasier, I even now and again watch Friends, which is pretty shameful, because you're talking about, you know, Literally, probably 10 times.
And now and again.
Oh, yeah.
And I also watch the orchestras, as you know, on YouTube.
But I mean, you know, Frasier is all set in that little coffee shop they have.
And, you know, they pull up a chair and they're really close together.
And you're just looking at it.
And it is almost painful to watch because you're thinking, and it's the same with Friends, obviously, although only Naffer.
And you're just like, we're so far away from that.
Because even if they open the coffee shops, they're still going to have those ridiculous yellow, stupid-ass yellow stickers and the stupid-ass masks and all the rest of it.
And you're just looking at how, in a way, how normal that was.
And you're just thinking, we are so far away from that.
Even the happiest, chirpiest little lockdown's going to end soon.
They've basically already said, yeah, we're going to have social distancing till the end of the year.
Well, they can go and jump as far as I'm concerned.
But I mean, a lot of the other plebs will go along with this.
And as I said, I watched the culture stuff.
As I said, I think one of the first things I said on this, yeah, you're getting quite exposed, but one of the first thing I said on this podcast, like when we first started at 11 podcasts ago, is again, we're so far away from like getting theatre back.
Getting orchestras back.
And it's just one... I watched The Planets and it's from the National Youth Orchestra are playing it in the proms.
And they're all these, you know, amazing, youthful players.
And I know how difficult it is to become that good.
And you're just like, what are these guys doing right now?
You know, they should be at the top of their career.
If you've made the National Youth Orchestra, I'd say the clip is from about five years ago.
You know, they should be all coming into the new orchestras and they can't do anything.
And I'm just like, it's just criminal what they have done to the culture.
Completely criminal.
And we are, so again, you might get this back and that back, but we are ages from getting a full house back again.
Absolutely ages.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm afraid to say that a lot of this has happened because we've allowed it to happen.
If the church had stood up and said, People are going to come in and worship.
We're going to keep the churches open.
If Andrew Lloyd Webber at the beginning had said, look, you cannot let the West End die.
Yeah.
Instead, he just said, oh, well, OK, well, that's if them's the rules.
Yeah.
And it has to be those people.
It has to be the people who are like Lord Sumption or whatever, who can take the hiss, you know, who can for the inevitable pile on that happens.
That they will get up and say, no, I mean, this is ridiculous.
You're going to kill the whole cultural landscape for at least five years.
I'm not signing up to that.
I mean, there were so many pieces that could have been written if we had a functioning mainstream media, so many pieces pointing out that, for example, the orchestra has carried on giving performances throughout the Blitz.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There were occasions where bombs landed in the middle of plays and blew people up, or in the middle of, I think one blew up the Café Royal.
Now, the risk to life limb was much greater in 1940 than it was in 2021.
It was just the death toll.
Yeah, I know.
And yet they carried on.
And now we're going through... They carried on when the ship was going down, right?
If you're right, when Japan was going down, they say played on.
But I know, it's ridiculous.
Who I want to, who I really want to basically, really now, I've had enough.
I've had enough of the scientists.
I have had enough of all these mad, demonic, and I will say demonic scientists and the media coming on the last couple of days, right, to try and browbeast and bounce Boris Johnson into extending this lockdown.
I mean, I think it's absolutely disgraceful.
Have you been following it?
They've been in Sky.
You see, I follow it.
You have to follow it.
They've been on Sky.
You do it so I don't have to, Laura.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They've been on BBC.
So then it gets picked up by The Mail and all the rest of it.
So one guy on today's programme is like, well, there's just no point in setting an arbitrary date in the middle of March and April.
You know, we have to be guided by the data.
First of all, it really annoys me when they say that.
It's like, no, the data is important, but actually it's our values that guide us.
And he's like, I realise businesses have to, you know, plan ahead.
And you're just like, you have never ran a business in your entire life.
I have actually had it up to here with these mad scientists who, by the way, James, we locked in universities to fiddle around on their little screens for a reason, so that they couldn't do any damage in the real world.
That's why we paid them to stay in their ivory towers.
And now these idiots and these cowards in government have decided to hand over all power to these guys.
I don't remember voting for these guys.
I don't remember.
They are now making policy.
No, no, just give me the facts and get off the stage.
And then the rest of us get to decide.
And, you know, and the fear mongering and the terrorism...
These people are dangerous.
I have no respect for them.
Scientists, anyway, have a bad... Like, they were pushing lobotomies on us 50 years ago.
And they were pushing the science of eugenics 100 years ago.
And racial superiority 100 years ago.
I don't... Go away!
You don't have a good track record.
You're not any more qualified to make this policy decision than anybody else is.
And you're certainly not morally qualified.
Move!
The studios need to be shot as well.
I think it's even worse than you you're suggesting, Laura.
I mean, they're not scientists.
They are bad actors.
They are.
I mean, they are political activists.
Yeah.
You think about what's happened in the last 18 months is decades, if not centuries, of medical science have been overturned, rejected in favour of this politicised woo.
For example, the idea of the whole functioning of the immune system.
Yeah, I think one of the most pernicious lies being put about is that you can get COVID twice.
I don't believe it.
I don't know.
We have we have T cell immunity, we have we have our first line immune system, then we have the T cell immunity, which which follows.
We, many of us have immunity from SARS-CoV-1.
Many of us have immunity to coronaviruses from the from the coronavirus colds that circulate every year.
And yet, these charlatans have put about this lie, That we don't have these immune systems and the only way of looking after ourselves is the vaccine.
And then, lo, it turns out that even the vaccine can't protect you.
It doesn't stop you transmitting or getting it.
It just might make the symptoms a bit milder.
Let's not talk about the side effects.
Let's talk about the fact that if you're pregnant it could abort your baby.
Let's not talk about the fact that If you're exposed to the wild virus, then you can have a seriously bad reaction.
I mean, somebody like me, who's had coronavirus, and then to take the vaccine, which I'm not going to do, I'm putting myself at risk.
Why am I being bullied into doing this?
Why are they lying to us about so many things?
Why have they been suppressing things like Invermectin?
Why do they lie to us about hydroxychloroquine?
This is where I get frustrated with Toby Young.
It's simply not enough to go, yeah, well, this is what the experts on that side of the argument are telling us, so let's give them a fair hearing.
No, they can fuck off.
I mean, did you hear, did you see the debate between your boyfriend, Dan Hodges?
I'd appreciate it if people were like, he's been my boyfriend, thanks very much.
Sorry, that was below the belt.
That was really cruel, sorry.
I take that back.
Did you see your friend, Dan Hodges and Peter Hitchens.
I thought up on Twitter, you know, I didn't watch it because I can't bear it.
I just can't.
I can't.
OK, can I can I summarise Dan Hodges' argument?
I mean, Dan Hodges, the guy who turned on the pin, he did his U-turn.
Yeah.
Lockdowns.
This lockdown was necessary because because Ivor Cummins and Mike Yeadon underestimated the second wave.
And because they were proved wrong, therefore locked.
It was just absolute.
It was kind of like, well, you said this and that wasn't right.
So that's why we're going to have lockdowns.
And I was thinking, where are the grown ups in the room?
I mean, Peter Hitchens is a grown up, but unfortunately, Peter Hitchens is also so blackpilled.
That he's kind of resigned to to the world going to hell in a handcart because he knows that God will judge and he's going to be fine in the afterlife.
Well, OK, that's that's all right.
But I think actually one needs to that kind of Christian tinged fatalism whereby what happens in the world is just whatever what will be will be.
It's the it's the thing that frustrates me about Peter.
He's great.
But he's not.
He's never talking about solutions.
It's just like, well, I said this 20 years ago.
Yeah.
Well, I wrote this.
Yeah.
Well, OK.
You're right, Peter.
You were right.
But actually.
Yeah.
Some of us actually want to live our lives.
Some of us want to fight back.
Yeah.
You're not giving us any hope.
No, I know.
I know.
Well, I mean, look, the whole thing.
I mean, Dan Hodges, I now and again go over to his Twitter feed for hope, because I want to see, you know, what what what he's predicting.
And of course, the irony, of course, is I hope I'm wrong.
And he's right.
No, we're going to come out of this soon.
So they keep coming in the last five days, you know, pushing everything back.
You know, that the 22nd of February, you know, when we're supposed to getting our route route out of lockdown.
Yeah, they try to budge on that date as well.
It's like they're pushing back the actual date.
You can only imagine.
You can only imagine what this stupid ass route, exit route is going to look like.
And it's all going to be contingent on the numbers anyway, right?
They're just going to go, so in March, on the 24th of March, we're going to allow you meet three people in a park at 3pm.
And as long as it's sunny and the rainbows are out and the virus is down to two people.
Yeah.
And then that'll all be like, woohoo!
We've got our roadblock!
And you're just like, it's all going to be completely conditional.
And then that other, oh my God, Tom Harwood.
Well, it's so harder to, it's much harder to oppose lockdown now, now that we have a clear exit date.
So myself and Julia Hardy, we were like, what's that now?
Oh, hang on.
Did we miss a big press conference?
I'm sorry, it's a clear, clear exit.
You don't even have a date for the date of exit.
And the whole exit will be completely conditional.
And they've literally pumped up the propaganda the last three days saying, oh, well, yeah, I mean, we're just so far away.
No, don't be booking any holidays in the middle of August, which is like eight months away.
No, no, I wouldn't be doing that.
And you're just like, How can you actually type that?
You're an actual journalist and it is factually incorrect to say we have an exit date.
We are currently in an indefinite lockdown.
We have no dates.
It's indefinite.
Don't call me.
I'll call you.
And we don't even know if it's bacteria or anything.
I mean, I can't even go, I can barely even talk about it anymore.
It's so ridiculous.
I only have some hope in that when the weather changes, the weather does go in spring and summer.
And I'm sure they've calculated this in.
I mean, people are just not going to stay indoors.
It's been a pretty brutal winter, both in terms of the weather and obviously nobody has been to like a restaurant.
I mean, they can keep the restaurants closed as they want, but I mean, everyone's just going to be drinking in the parks.
Everybody will be in the house.
Not even the idiotic British public are going to stay in when it's like 22 degrees out.
That's not going to happen.
I got a tiny sliver of hope the other day when I got sent some footage taken by my boy at Durham of where it's been snowing and they were tobogganing.
And there were four of them on a toboggan, you know, like close together.
They weren't wearing masks and there were People all around them having snowball fights and also tobogganing.
And there were no police coming in to arrest them.
And I was thinking, yes, this is the kind of world we used to live in, where you could go tobogganing in the snow without the police coming to say.
Absolutely.
I mean, I'm pretty I'm pretty confident on that.
But whether or not you can actually sit down and have a civilised meal together, I don't know.
But I mean, the idea that after this, you know, basically a year of lockdown and I said pretty brutal weather, people are going to stay inside.
It's you know, this is fantasy land.
I assume their little behavioural scientists out there have calculated that in.
No, but you're right about the science.
I perhaps To any real scientists out there, and I put engineers in that bracket, you know, people who actually build stuff, and, you know, chemists and physics, I apologise.
I don't mean you guys.
I mean, you know, the, what's it, the witch doctors and the guy with this crystal ball, Neil Ferguson, and all the other charlatan behavioural models, modelists out there.
And, you know, stop calling yourself a scientist.
Just stop it.
Just stop it.
You only ever use a computer to make all your stupid predictions anyway.
You know, I've just I've had enough of them.
But again, why are the media and not say some of the half not totally crap MPs out there or, you know, mom of a disabled child who can't take it anymore?
Oh, no, they don't.
They don't.
I know.
There are so many stories.
We've got fear.
Yeah.
The papers could be running so many stories showing the other side of the coronavirus, of the real victims.
Yeah.
But they're not doing it because I just did a really, really good podcast with one of your compatriots.
Which one?
With John Waters.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
John, he's fantastic.
And we talked about this because, you know, being both hacks who remember member of the era when there was a media worth the name.
Yeah.
And we talked about how, because the media has been collapsing, as we know, for over a period of years for a number of reasons, partly the internet has stolen all the advertising.
And partly it's because the papers have no sense of identity anymore.
They're run by children who would more or less work for free.
They just want a job in the media and they're all sort of lefty political activists anyway.
But the response of the newspapers to their decline, their declining advertising revenues and their declining sales, was not to go, how can we make ourselves better and make us worthy of people's, you know, still worth spending their money on?
Instead, what they did is, OK, let's sell ourselves to whoever will pay for us.
So, for example, the Telegraph worked for the Chinese Communist Party for a period of months by taking an insert produced by the Chinese.
And the Guardian took money from Shell for its environment pages.
And now they've been taking Well, they're taking a lot of money from the government over these ridiculous... A hundred million.
Yeah, well, I think we did a blog on it as well.
I know.
I mean, it must be the only thing keeping them afloat.
There's this stupid terrorism, debating terrorists, government terrorising ads.
You know, look them in the eye.
You're just like, I actually, this is real.
I'm actually living in communist Russia in real time.
You are.
You totally are.
It is Pravda.
And you think about the origins of our media, of the press.
You think about the pamphlets in the era of the Civil War and beyond people sort of risking their lives to get or suddenly risking prison sentences to get their message out against the oppressive state.
Yeah.
And now all those those centuries of hard work that people have all those hard won freedoms have now been pissed against the wall in a trice by whoever it is that owns the Telegraph and the The mail and so on, they've all become government propaganda sheets.
Yeah.
And that's what this could have happened.
We wouldn't be in this mess if the media had done its job.
No, I agree.
No, they not only didn't do their job in terms of they didn't scrutinise.
I mean, they actually became, you know, collaborators and facilitators.
You know, they're just pumping out this ridiculous government message, literally paid for advertisements and also in all the editorials, in all the pieces they make.
And you're just like, you are a disgrace.
I mean, you are just, you're such...
They're such liars.
I mean, it's gone on for a while.
I was trying to go over big previous media scandals when we've been lied to, that then they do U-turns and a few things popped up here and there.
But like, this is obviously massive.
You know, this is absolutely massive.
I know it's a small thing, but I remember, you know, even the whole Princess Di and Charles wedding.
I mean, I was only literally born when that happened.
But when I read, I like to read, you know, you rewatch some of the footage and what did the Archbishop say?
You know, this is the stuff fairy tales are made of.
You know, a prince and his princess lies.
A massive, big, whopping lie.
They didn't even know each other.
They didn't even like each other.
You're just selling us all this garbage all the time.
There's been a few cultural stories.
Can I do them?
Just so we know.
We need them.
Go on.
I know you gave out to me before about bringing up your man, Marilyn Manson, who I agree our younger viewers will not know, but our older viewers will know this guy.
And again, I think I take that back because what I hadn't realised was that there was a story in the papers about him and I hadn't realised he was quite current.
Yeah, yeah.
So basically, you know, the news broke again.
It would have been a big omi for this stupid coronavirus thing that essentially, you know, he at very least attacked his girlfriends, if not worse.
And you're like, and I only tweeted it once, but it's like, oh yeah, the only people who opposed him in the 80s or wherever, whenever he crawled out from his particular rock, were the so-called, you know, the mad, the nutty, hardline American Christian right, right?
At the time, they said they were the only ones who opposed this guy.
He was completely satanic.
He was completely indecent, et cetera, et cetera.
And what did your mainstream, I assume, lefty wing media do?
Oh, you're so prudish.
Oh, how very dare you even do this?
You know, how very, how very dare you even question the man's an artist?
You know, again, just pushing this garbage on you, this demonic garbage on you the whole time.
Or look at, you know, Britney Spears.
This was in the news recently, right?
Because I basically don't, I completely reject most popular culture.
And again, she's, I mean, I liked her, you know, her music was poppy.
I totally get the catchiness of it, right?
Again, pushed on you.
She's totally hyper-sexualized, you know, completely exploited.
Yeah, turns out, you know, that basically her dad controls all her finances and, you know, things mightn't be as they seem there.
Yet another massive media lie.
Oh, and then have you noticed that the lefties, the left bank lefties in France have all been exposed as like child abusers?
And did you see this?
I didn't.
Tell me.
Please tell me.
You can't name names, but you're talking, you know, the real highbrow lefty intellectual intelligence.
It was all in Times Two.
Yeah, like some of the daughters have come out going, yeah, he abused me.
He abused my brother because, you know, Arthur's 68 and everything went to shit, in my view.
And they push all this liberal garbage on you and it's, you know, it's make love not war.
Yeah, it included making love like with your kids, basically.
But not only that, because you might say, oh, well, you've always had that kind of abuse, but they actually didn't have the decency to keep it under wraps because they campaigned, some of them, for the legalisation of paedophilia.
And if you go back to those papers back then, you can bet your bottom dollar that this was going to be sold as some sort of mainstream, everybody needs to get over their hang-ups now, you know, we're in charge.
And it's just the usual.
I mean, I will go by saying, you know, I mean, the lies of the last 40 years, the absolute lies.
And now they've come out with this big, massive, great whopper of a Covid lie.
And again, the media have pushed all this crap on you.
I wasn't there for all of it, but that's how I read it.
And yeah, you know, 30 years later, oh, turns out he wasn't such a nice guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Well, you know, we did say and we were shouted down.
Well, I think we've discussed this before, that it is a characteristic of declining civilisations, that they become more perverted in their sexual tastes.
In fact, I almost think they exalt in it.
I think I think that for the sort of the upper elite default position actually is what you've just described.
And it's also, it's rife.
The important thing about it is that they can get away with it in plain view.
That's part of the humiliation.
OK, is that not only not only are we doing this incredibly degrading thing and abusing people, but we're doing it in plain view.
And you can't touch us for it because we've got our buddies in the media who will cover for us.
So like Weinstein knew that the Clintons will cover for him.
Right.
And vice versa.
Weinstein made a massive deal to Bill Clinton's Defence funder Monica Lewinsky.
Oh, there's another one.
Monica Lewinsky, trashed, right?
Trashed, probably a little bit on the right, but also completely trashed by the left.
Again, I saw another clip of, what is it, your man Jay Leno, like again, totally humiliating her when the whole story broke.
And now, of course, the feminists look back and go, yeah, we treated we treated Monica like crap.
Actually, she was right the whole time.
And Bill Clinton's a scumbag.
Remember?
Remember all that?
And when the Republicans said, actually, I don't think it should be, you know, manhandling your intern half your age in the Oval Office.
Oh, well, that's the Republicans, you know.
They're just so prudish.
Like, get over yourselves, people.
This happens all the time.
I'm not saying there's problems.
There are problems on the right, but basically all of the left wing media should just be ignored.
In fact, whatever they tell you, flip it, because most of what they tell you is a lie or just they're just they're just trying to get you to invert the truth.
Oh, I feel better.
Well, that that is the classic Alinsky, Saul Alinsky tactic that he says.
Accuse your opponents of things that you are guilty of yourself.
Yeah, there's a lot of projection to put them on the back.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's what it's what the left does.
Yeah.
I mean, the right.
The me too thing.
I mean, I have my I have my reservations over the me too thing.
But if you if you're certainly in the States, if you went through the people who fell, they were more or less all on the left.
All of them.
And over stuff that like, you know, we can agree we're wrong.
Not like, oh, she touched me on I touched her knee, you know, at a dinner party, like properly degrading stuff.
And yeah, there are pretty much all all on the left.
Yeah, well, that I mean, that's a quite a common phenomenon, I think, in as much as we are we on if right and left have any meaning anymore, those of us, you and I are conservatives with a small c. We're constant.
We live in a culture where we're constantly having to defend our position.
We're always being We're always being accused of being of bad faith and being bad people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morality is always in question.
Whereas the left, they've created this world and reinforced by by the media, by Hollywood, et cetera, where to be on the left is you'll get out of jail free.
You're a good person.
You don't need to behave well in private life because you've got lefty values.
It's moral license, I think.
Right.
I mean, I'm saving the world.
So why should I be nice to my spouse?
You know, I mean, I'm just above that.
I don't have time for that.
Yeah.
No, I know.
I know.
We haven't, by the way, we sort of lightly touched on, but I think this is the most shocking thing so far, that Matt Hancock, who's the health secretary, I mean, since when does the health secretary have such power, has now made it so, apparently, by sort of Hancock fiat, that if you go on holiday to Portugal, Yes.
And when you go, when you come back to the border police and you don't tell them you've been to Portugal because you don't want to spend 10, 10 days in quarantine, 10 days and £1,750.
I couldn't see.
There it is.
Yeah, I must have missed that because I checked them twice.
It's on the red list.
So anyway, this list is arbitrary.
Why, why, why is, why are the Seychelles dangerous?
Why are Why is, where else, Mauritius?
Lots of places on the list.
It seems very arbitrary, but particularly Portugal.
Why Portugal and not Spain?
So if you go there...
Yeah, and they're doing it also under like the Fraud Act or something.
As you say, they haven't passed a specific law in relation to it.
It's just that if you lie on your declaration, I think it counts as fraud.
And under the Fraud Act or whatever act they might be using, that can bring in the 10 year sentence.
OK, however they've done it, 10 years is a very steep sentence for going to Portugal and then not remitting it by any stretch.
The lack of... So one MP, Charles... What's his name?
He's got a kind of... Sorry?
Charles Walker.
Yeah.
So Charles Walker, who was... I think he's a conservative who's been mugged by reality and he's become a radical.
I think he was destined to spend his later years on the back benches.
It got his knighthood.
He was going to Disappear into the sunset.
Yeah.
And instead, he's become the only Conservative MP who is resisting this stuff.
I mean, OK, a few of them are making the right noises.
So you'll see John, you'll hear John Redwood.
But they're not, they're not really fighting it.
No, they're not.
Like, this is fascist tyranny.
We've got to resist to our dying breath.
They're not doing that.
They're sort of going, well, like Steve Baker's the classic example of this, you know, well, I think this is unacceptable.
And there can be no more lockdowns.
And then another lockdown comes along and he goes, oh, all right, well, yeah, whatever.
Yeah, no, I know.
None of them are willing to make any serious personal sacrifices over this.
But Charles Walker, I don't know whether you heard him on the World at One.
Yes, I did.
And what was very interesting was not just his exasperation.
Yeah.
But also that, what's the woman, Sarah Montagu.
Sarah Montagu, The BBC are such outrageous propagandists for the government.
They just take everything the government says as being true.
So, for example, she asked him, yes, but don't you think it's reasonable given that all these new variants, these new mutations that you make?
And I'm thinking, why does anyone buy this stuff?
Why does anyone just go, horseshit, I'm calling you on this.
Viruses always mutate, and they almost invariably tend towards milder mutations rather than stronger ones.
I haven't even got O-level biology, I've only got O-level physics, but even I know that.
No, well, it's their forever war, right?
I mean, we won the war against Eurasia, but now we have to fight the war against... I can't complete that quote.
But it is genius, you know, because it can go on forever.
They can control every minute part of your life.
And then they've got the gift of the, you know, well, you like to use the word mutants, which, again, is part of their terrorism.
But yeah, they're variants.
And so it's a gift that keeps giving.
I mean, it just can't...
They it'll never go away.
Right.
And they've already said, oh, yeah, you're going to need your booster.
You're going to need your booster every August.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they've shut those borders down.
Remember when over Brexit and previously when the terrorists are coming in and blowing us to smithereens.
Oh, no, no, no.
You couldn't shut a border.
No, I don't even I don't even want an extra level of security.
No, that makes you a racist.
But now.
Oh, now.
Now I'm sending you to 10 years because you took a fun holiday in Portugal.
Like, this is the kind of crass you have to deal with.
It's going to get, it's going to get much worse, because you see, the thing is, I know, as most people don't, because I've just been studying this, that climate change is COVID-19.
COVID-19 is just an extension of climate change.
It's just a handy excuse.
And in both cases, it's a completely mendacious excuse, just as there is no evidence whatsoever that the planet is heating catastrophically and unprecedentedly because of human CO2 emissions, there was no evidence at all.
It's purely in computer models.
So is the case with with COVID-19.
It's a routine viral respiratory infection, you know, affect some people badly.
Most people get over it like like it's like it's a it's a cold that the the death the mortality figures are no no really no worse than they've been in the last century.
I mean, actually, they're better than they have been in the last century on average.
Um, so it's completely fake.
And, and they're going to, their viral problem is going to mutate into this, this kind of all purpose ass covering climate change thing where having effectively shut the borders and stopped us flying, they're going to say, well, I think we should continue not flying because climate change, because the planet, because it's the environment.
And they're going to get away with it because they've shown they can.
Well, people will be terrified as well to get on a plane.
So what about the, you know, your vaccine passport?
They're working on that.
So you'll be able to get on a plane as long as you have your vaccine passport.
You know, that is just it's so outrageous that they are forcing us to take things that we talked we talked about.
Did we talk about the the UK column scoop?
I think I think we met on the last podcast but no one's cancelled it.
So a an NHS whistleblower appeared on the UK column.
news site and said that one of the unfortunate side effects of one of the vaccines is that it takes out your immune system, just stops it working, more or less, for seven days after you've had the vaccine.
Right.
That's clever, isn't it?
Yeah.
So you can imagine what happens if you go into an old people's home and you inject these 80-somethings with this vaccine.
So all they need is a cold, is a flu, Because the flu hasn't gone away.
And if it gets them in that week when their immune system is just not functioning, they're going to die.
And no one's talking about this because the media is so heavily suppressed by all manner of influences.
I mean, the power of the World Health Organization seems to be, in this whole pandemic, seems to be extraordinary.
Given that the World Health Organization is in the control of the Chinese Communist Party, Yeah.
You know, Dr Tedros, the war criminal, he's the Chinese stooge.
Ditto all these people like, you know, all our sage people, they're all singing from the same hymn sheet.
Yeah.
No, but I mean, Also, I mean, I totally take the points on the vaccine, but I'll tell you what also annoys me is that, you know, they pop up and the vaccine minister all that.
We've done like 14 million people.
We've done 15 million people.
And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're coming out here saying, oh, well, we don't we don't know how it works.
Like Grant Shapps actually said that this is the reason for not booking holidays.
Yeah, well, we don't know how.
He actually said we don't know how the vaccine will work.
It's probably true in Schatz's case because she's very, very stupid.
The vaccine, you idiot!
Why are we spending all this money on it?
Like, you've sold it as the exit route.
So where's my exit route then?
You've pushed it on all these people, as I said, despite the fact that, you know, arguably it's experimental and you rushed it through in nine months time and France aren't so keen on a particular one.
But, you know, I mean, so they're always, but we vaccine, we vaccinate like 15 million people, but you'll still have to wear your masks.
And you'll still have to keep your distance.
And don't book a holiday.
And yeah, you probably won't be able to hug your grandkids.
This is crept back into the papers.
Well, why the hell would you take the vaccine if you can't hug your grandchildren?
Obviously, people who are obeying those rules are bonkers anyway.
You know, I mean, nothing they say makes sense.
I mean, maybe they just do it on purpose.
Let's just see how much garbage we can put into the news cycle.
And just completely, it's a shock and awe thing, right?
We pump fear with confusion and then everybody just says, I just give up.
And I think a lot of people have given up.
You know, I think a lot of people have.
You know about the cathedral, don't you?
Yeah.
I've talked about the cathedral.
Yeah.
This sort of overarching system where everyone, it doesn't need to be a kind of conspiracy because everyone acts their part anyway.
They know how to behave.
And I'll just give you an example of the kind of stupidity that's been unleashed on our lives and on our world.
Oh, by the way, also, I was thinking, imagine if five years ago somebody had said, yeah, there's going to be a In 2021, you won't be allowed to go and see your mother.
No, I know.
You won't be allowed to go and visit her.
And you go, well, hang on, why?
What kind of shit would have to happen in 2021?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't get in my car and see my mum.
Yeah.
And the person in the past would, predicting the future, would struggle to explain because you just couldn't imagine a virus.
Oh, but there'll be a virus with an infection mortality rate of less than 1% will hit us.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, but it's worth asking, though, what has happened culturally?
As you said, you know, orchestra played on during during the Blitz.
People, kids went to school during the Blitz, etc.
What has what has changed so much that so many people, I mean, will go along with this?
Is it decadence?
Is it just selfishness?
Is it the cowardice of it?
Like, you know, it's just it's extraordinary.
This has been happening over a period of decades and look, everything connects.
Black Lives Matter, Extinction Rebellion, all the currents that we found individually annoying and that some of our conservative colleagues have been fighting.
They've been fighting in particular theatres of the wider war.
What I think very few of them have realised is that everything, everything connects.
But the other example I was just going to give you of the lunacy abroad.
So the other day I had to do some filming for this documentary and I said, well, I'm not going to come up to London this year.
London is dead.
The shops are all closed.
I don't like sitting on a train without my mask, waiting for some random sado to come and say, why aren't you wearing your mask?
It's too much hassle.
So you can come to my place.
So they said, right, we'll send the cameraman around and Can you, when he arrives, can you make sure you're wearing a mask?
You don't have to, you don't have to wear it for the interview, but just wear it.
And the room where you're filming, how many other rooms would he have to pass through to get to it?
And the room he's filming in, how big is it?
Can you, can you distance more than two metres?
And when, before he arrives, can you open the windows?
And this was when the temperature outside was minus two.
And so we were like, fuck that.
And so all this, all this stuff.
And I was thinking, this is the equivalent of saying, you've got to wear, before the cameraman arrives, make sure you're wearing your special unicorn hat and make sure the horn is really prominent.
Make sure it's got tinsel and glitter on it and make sure it's painted the correct pastel-y, rainbow-y, sort of pinky girl colours.
And when the cameraman arrives, do the special unicorn dance and trot around the table three times saying, I am a unicorn.
If you'd done those things, it would have the same effect on getting rid of the coronavirus as the mask.
Because masks don't work.
And yet we've all been persuaded that we must go through this routine.
But one mask isn't enough, James.
One mask isn't enough.
So she says now you've got to have two masks.
Yeah, I saw it did for the national broadcaster in Ireland is called RT.
And I just saw a quick tweet of them.
And it's like, you know, two masks.
And especially when they're snuggly, that's the best way to beat the coronavirus.
And I just remember, or you know, studies show it will beat coronavirus.
And I'm just like, studies will show that if you listen to too much RCA, you end up like a crazy person.
And I really hate them because they have my parents on the edge, basically.
My parents are complete believers.
They're practically sealed in.
It's sealed in their home.
Yeah, yeah.
It's it's it gets stressful sometimes.
And the whole it's just it's just crazy.
I mean, again, it's one thing being careful, but it's how people would expose themselves to this and make themselves terrified over it.
That just is just it's just incredible.
You know, it's it's just like live your life in fear.
Make sure you're really in fear all of the time.
It's sad.
As I said, it is.
It's also demonic.
But yeah, I mean, the reason why your camera guy, they probably went through, you didn't do any of it, did you?
No, of course not.
Yes, I did for their insurance purposes.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But this is it.
But now you see, but that's the thing.
They have said, oh, I have to say this, because if the camera guy is one of these, you know, unicorn believers, he will go back and complain that his employer sent him out to a job that exposed him to Covid.
Right.
And this is this is the thing.
And everything now will be, oh, no, I don't want to do that because it falls under health and safety and you're exposing me to risk.
Therefore, I can't go back to work.
I can't go back to school.
And that's the whole thing.
I mean, you thought health and safety was bad before.
You can only imagine the madness now.
You can only imagine.
Oh, it's not Covid secure.
You can't make me go back.
And legally speaking... Imagine if you're a really fat, lazy schoolteacher, which is probably quite a few of them.
I mean, their Christmases have come early, haven't they?
It's just fantastic.
I can't.
My health could be jeopardised by doing my job.
Yeah, no, I know, I know.
It's the whole thing.
I can't, it's difficult to sort of really put your finger on what has been a complete social collapse, really, in the last year.
I mean, I genuinely believe, again, not wanting to catastrophise, that's not the right word, but you know what I mean.
You know, if we had an invading force, like, I really think people would just, would roll over and surrender straight away and collaborate.
I think they would sell out really, really quickly.
I mean, I just it's it's scary.
It's it is scary.
They have demonstrated that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, this is only like a virus that you will be fine over.
You have willing you're willing to surrender so much.
Now, granted, you do.
We do have to take into the fact that the whole like, well, you can risk your own life, but you can't risk other people.
That was also genius.
That's what makes the virus so genius.
Right.
So for people who would have said, oh no, I will remain strong, but I don't want to.
You get this a lot, but I have an elderly mother, or I have blah, blah, blah aunt, or whatever it is.
And you're just like, for God's sake.
That's the game they play.
Everyone does it.
It's not about their cowardice.
It's about their altruism.
Yeah.
No, this is it.
I mean, again, it's the genius of choosing a virus.
I really want to know who did that.
But yeah, no, Matt Hancock is... What are these behavioural psychologists that are run by behavioural... I mean, this goes back to Edward Bernays, doesn't it?
These dark secrets have been with the bad guys for decades now, but they've reached their apotheosis in 2021.
No, I mean, it caused... I mean, it was out today, they've caused the biggest recession since For 300 years.
So not even World War One, not World War Two.
I think you have to go back to like the deep freeze.
Literally 300 years ago, these pseudoscientists have crashed this economy.
And as I said, even if you get your route out of lockdown, the damage is done.
Both in terms of the economy and our way of life and whether or not locking people down is seen as acceptable in Western society.
They have won on that and we will never, you know, we'll never get that back.
And so, as I said, the real damage has been done.
And I'm afraid I do blame a lot of the baby boomers for going along with this, which I may have touched on before and people didn't like.
You know, it's like all you had to do was pass on a functioning society and you have failed utterly to do that.
You have sold your own grandkids out so you can go skiing next year.
Shame on you.
Yeah.
I don't know how you, because I don't think it's actually the sort of plus 75 plus 80 year olds that are doing it.
I think it's the between 55 and 70, 75 year olds who did this, who supported this.
And if they had opposed it, it would have been much more difficult because you might say, well, every group did it, but they're the ones with the power and they're the ones with the wealth.
So if the opposition had come from those guys, it would have been a tougher sell.
But they have gone along with this, lock, stock and barrel, as usual, because they're a completely selfish generation.
And I wrote a whole blog on this and they all went mental, as you can imagine.
And it was all like, well, I don't support it.
And I was like, OK, I get that you don't support it.
Obviously, you're self-selecting.
You've come to the website and I'm glad that you have and we appreciate your support.
But then it'd be like, but why don't you do a little straw poll of your mates and tell me, you know, out of your five mates, how many support and how many don't?
And I'm convinced to be a majority.
And I still get emails.
I'm saying you're completely right.
I got on an email recently going, yep, my parents are like, and again, it's not just, I am afraid, I, 65 year old boomer, I'm afraid.
These are the most judgmental.
These are the ones who in the security of either their second home or their very nice suburban home with massive garden are twitching the curtains going, But that one outside, she went to the shop twice.
They're the ones giving all the posters back.
Yeah, the lockdown should be harder and it should be longer.
It all comes from that generation.
Them and the insane Millennials.
But I kind of, I kind of, you know, I don't like to be as harsh.
Don't indulge him.
Don't say it's charming.
Millennials.
No, no, no.
But I think Millennials have been royally screwed.
I think they're completely, I mean, your kids are Millennials.
They are completely screwed now.
They are completely screwed.
How are they going to build a career?
And as I said, the value system they've been held is, I mean, there is the baby boomers aren't sitting behind the curtains, twitching and condemning them for having a pint down the road.
Then they're in Churchill, which brings on their then the same baby boomers are in Churchill College, right in Cambridge, trashing their national heritage.
So if they're not trashing the economy by these crazy pseudoscientists, then all the crazy leftist historians are trashing your own cultural heritage.
You know, which was I mean, I haven't even gone there, have we?
I just tweeted today going, I mean, I know I've seen these academics before and it's like their entire career is based on criticising probably the greatest historical figure of modern times who changed the course of history for the better.
And all you can do is sit there and criticise and basically libel him.
Most of it's complete lies.
And they get promoted non-stop by the BBC.
In the same way that the BBC kept alive the careers of really not very funny comedians, but because they were left-wing it kind of gave them the sinecures.
In the same way that guy David... Genuinely unfunny.
Genuinely.
What is he called?
David Olu... David Olu... I don't know.
I don't watch any of them.
He's their kind of house kind of...
anti-colonial historian and he's coming up with this line.
And I'm sure that most viewers don't want it.
Well, I mean, maybe they do now because all those of us who don't like it have left.
I mean, I don't watch the BBC.
No, no, I don't.
I don't know.
Well, I'll finish on this because I read an author out there and it is very American, Helen Andrews.
And she's written a book on the boomers, basically trashing them.
She takes five boomers, including Aaron Sorkin, by the way, who you will know, and a judge, you know, of the West Wing, right?
You wrote The West Wing?
Yeah.
Are you looking up?
Yeah.
So I read that and it's well, I read most of it.
And it's a really good book, but there was a killer, killer line in it.
And it links in a minute into Lauren Fox.
And she goes, so when all the radicals and the revolutionaries were coming through in the 60s, they were able to do that against the background, I would say, of a conservative and Christian culture.
Right.
And, you know, and then there was a silent majority.
Right.
Nixon's silent majority who pushed back on that.
There is no silent majority now in America.
The silent majority are the radicals, all in the universities, in the bureaucracy and all of the Democratic Party.
So there's nobody there to tell Black Lives Matter and the rest of the lunatics out there to tell them to put a sock in it, right?
Now, I don't know.
So Laurence Fox, I remember, replied to a tweet, someone who goes like, It was I mean, it was funny.
I'll give him that.
It was.
Oh, who?
What kind of person would support Lawrence Fox?
And he replied going the silent majority.
And I think it's conservative.
We often hang on to this concept.
Don't worry.
Don't worry about those crazy Black Lives Matter dudes.
We have the silent majority.
Now, I do think Black Lives Matter is our minority.
But I would like to know how big is our silent majority?
Because I reckon it's shrinking and all the big, important players who are supporting this tiny group, right?
These tiny trans right radicals and Black Lives Matter who aren't representative.
But the silent majority, yes, they're the general public, but the people making the decisions, they're in the universities, they're in the bureaucracy, they're in the BBC.
And yes, they're probably still a minority, but they are the influential minority.
That's the problem.
That is the problem.
I know.
I know.
I agree.
The silent majority is shrinking.
It's getting a lot smaller.
And that's why you have the millennials completely at sea now.
They don't know what to think.
Most of them are just totally deluded.
Not yours, I'm sure.
They need to listen to this podcast.
This needs to be on the curriculum.
This podcast needs to be on their curriculum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go and do your thing.
Yeah, I have to pick up one of the kids now.
It's too cold outside.
No, it's fine.
I'm breaking the lockdown in various ways, I hope, next week in half term.
Don't know yet, but I'll figure out some ways.
Imagine, just imagine there's a big pile of potatoes out there.
Yeah.
Why, really?
I just want this cold weather to go.
I mean, you're Irish.
That's what I mean.
It was such a cheap, cheap Irish joke.
I was trying to incentivise you.
I do like to know, in all their forms, in all them forms, I just really... Anyway, have a good half term, if that's still a thing.
What was it?
Well, yeah, top term next week, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, big, still big.
Okay, I will talk to you afterwards.
Okay, take it easy.
Okay.
Okay, bye James, bye bye.
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