The Delingpod - James Delingpole - Dr James Todaro
Aired: 2020-06-11
Duration: 03:18


=== Dr. Todaro's Hydroxychloroquine Advocacy (02:50) ===

[00:00:00]  Welcome to the Dellingpod with me, James Dellingpole.
[00:00:04]  I just wanted to give you a heads up about the latest special guest.
[00:00:08]  He's fantastic.
[00:00:10]  He's Dr.
[00:00:11]  James Todaro.
[00:00:12]  You may have heard of him.
[00:00:13]  He was the earliest guy to write about the potential ability of hydroxychloroquine to sort out coronavirus and And he's been pushing this message ever since.
[00:00:26]  He talks to me about this and about LancetGate, the humiliation, the abject humiliation of the world's second most talked about medical journal, edited by a hard-left activist.
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[00:01:20]  I'm interested.
[00:01:22]  I hadn't realized that you published the first paper on hydroxychloroquine as a potential.
[00:01:28]  I mean, I'm familiar with a...
[00:01:30]  I wrote about this for Breitbart, and what I found was that there was a 2005 paper on, you must have read this, on how hydroxychloroquine was being used as a treatment for SARS, which is basically coronavirus 1, isn't it?
[00:01:47]  Yeah.
[00:01:48]  So was that what inspired you, or was it the anecdotal reports coming out of China where I think they'd been using it there as well?
[00:01:55]  It was actually a combination of all those.
[00:01:57]  So, First of all, as a physician, I was very familiar with hydroxychloroquine.
[00:02:02]  One of the main side effects is visually.
[00:02:05]  But that's after five years of using the medication, not after a small prophylactic treatment course.
[00:02:12]  So I started seeing a combination of all.
[00:02:14]  So there's a 2005 study looking at its efficacy in SARS-1.
[00:02:18]  There was anecdotal reports coming out from China and South Korea where it's being used in their treatment guidelines.
[00:02:24]  There was in vitro evidence of its efficacy in primate cells.
[00:02:29]  And then You know, all this together, what really was surprising to me is I had not heard a single thing about it mentioned in the mainstream media or by, you know, a lot of researchers.

=== All My Fault (00:42) ===

[00:02:43]  It was all remdesivir or, you know, some of these other, you know, on patent medications.
[00:02:49]  And so that was very surprising to me.
[00:02:50]  And my colleague, Greg, as well, who co-authored the paper with me, he had been doing research on the antiviral effects of chloroquine for about a decade.
[00:02:59]  So he was very familiar with the medications.
[00:03:01]  Well, we teamed together, put out that report.
[00:03:04]  Elon Musk tweeted it out, I think a day or two later.
[00:03:07]  And then about three or four days later, the president's talking about it in a press.
[00:03:13]  So it's all your fault, basically.
[00:03:15]  This controversy is apparently all my fault.