Jim Bakker Show - The Jim Bakker Show with James Tan Part 2
Aired: 2025-12-02
Duration: 28:21


=== The Word and Spirit Together (07:53) ===

[00:00:01]  Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show.
[00:00:03]  Today, Dr. James Tan talks about walking in the flow of the Holy Spirit.
[00:00:08]  Our co-host today is Reverend Mondo de la Vega.
[00:00:11]  And now, here's your host, Pastor Ricky Baker.
[00:00:16]  Hello, friends.
[00:00:17]  You're watching the PTL Television Network.
[00:00:19]  I'm excited you've tuned in with us today.
[00:00:20]  Today is day two with Dr. James Tan.
[00:00:22]  If you have not watched day one, I encourage you to go download the PTL app and watch it on video on demand.
[00:00:28]  You can watch the entire thing.
[00:00:29]  And friends, it will bless your life.
[00:00:32]  But we're back here, day two, with Dr. James Tan.
[00:00:35]  Doctor, I want to say thank you for being here with us.
[00:00:37]  I gave you an applause.
[00:00:38]  Or as our brother Rod Parsi would say, Bishop.
[00:00:40]  Bishop James Tan.
[00:00:41]  There we go.
[00:00:43]  Yeah, I had the, it was a privilege and an honor.
[00:00:46]  And I said yes when he asked.
[00:00:48]  So there you go.
[00:00:48]  There we go.
[00:00:49]  Praise God.
[00:00:49]  So tell us about your ministry and what you're doing.
[00:00:51]  If people want to have you come out and minister with them, I know that you're really booked out, what you're kind of doing, but I know as the Holy Spirit leads you, you are going and ministering.
[00:00:59]  Reach out to me on social media.
[00:01:01]  I am Just James.
[00:01:02]  And we'll put it on the screen.
[00:01:03]  On social media.
[00:01:03]  That's really the best way to reach out.
[00:01:04]  Is that Facebook, Instagram?
[00:01:06]  Everything on there.
[00:01:07]  So I'm Just James.
[00:01:09]  I really feel like there is a hunger in the body of Christ and a need to talk about the things of the Spirit again.
[00:01:17]  Amen.
[00:01:18]  Amen.
[00:01:18]  The Holy Spirit, good old-fashioned Holy Spirit.
[00:01:20]  That sounds kind of like an oxymoron.
[00:01:23]  He said there is a need in the body of Christ to talk about the Holy Spirit again.
[00:01:28]  Yeah, but again, when you look back at Revelation 3, and you know that Revelation 2 and 3, seven letters, seven churches, types and shadows, pictures of the church today.
[00:01:42]  But you see that the Laodicean church, the last of the seven churches, was self-sufficient, blind and didn't know it, naked and didn't know it, self-aware instead of spirit-aware.
[00:01:57]  And when we become so advanced and modern and capable that we think we can without him, we're in trouble and don't know it.
[00:02:08]  We're in trouble.
[00:02:09]  Think about this, and you guys know this.
[00:02:13]  You think back of the great A.W. Towser, David Wilkerson, all of these that God raised up to raise a call in the church to come back to God.
[00:02:27]  That's right.
[00:02:28]  It's a call to repentance.
[00:02:30]  When you think about that, you're saying the church is going to come back to God?
[00:02:34]  How are we the church without him to begin with?
[00:02:37]  That's right.
[00:02:38]  Because we think we can.
[00:02:40]  Because we think we can.
[00:02:41]  The Old Testament type and shadow of that is Moses going up to the mount to be with God.
[00:02:47]  That's right.
[00:02:47]  And the people took the gold that he had given them leaving Egypt and made an idol out of it.
[00:02:54]  That's right.
[00:02:55]  That wasn't God's plan.
[00:02:56]  It's been gone a few months.
[00:02:58]  That wasn't God's plan for that goal that they plundered out of Egypt.
[00:03:02]  But the very thing he blessed them with became their idol.
[00:03:06]  Wow.
[00:03:07]  You feel like that's what's happening in the church quite a bit is the Lord will give the blessing, but then it becomes the idol.
[00:03:12]  You know, and the platform will become the idol.
[00:03:15]  And the following.
[00:03:16]  And they think that success equates approval from God.
[00:03:21]  So you're saying, so they think because I am successful, because I have the follower, because the finances are coming in, then God is blessing this period.
[00:03:29]  Or worse.
[00:03:30]  So you're saying that might not be the case.
[00:03:32]  No, it might not be the case because I'm saying that you have natural abilities.
[00:03:36]  We all do.
[00:03:36]  We all have natural abilities, some more than others.
[00:03:39]  Talking about Mondo over here.
[00:03:40]  Tell me about Mondo.
[00:03:40]  Beyond the good looks.
[00:03:42]  Those good looks, right?
[00:03:44]  That's where we are.
[00:03:45]  Oh, a compliment.
[00:03:46]  Oh, just one.
[00:03:47]  I want to make sure they book me on again here.
[00:03:50]  I'm trying my best and I'm working it.
[00:03:53]  But beyond our natural abilities, if we're not careful to be spirit-dependent.
[00:03:59]  That's good.
[00:04:00]  We become self-sufficient.
[00:04:02]  Yeah.
[00:04:03]  Can we, can we, and you see this in the secular field and motivational speakers, life coaches and all that other.
[00:04:11]  They can put good stuff out there, get the room jumping and the pumping and people think their lives are changed.
[00:04:17]  That's right and in its place, and I'm not knocking that.
[00:04:20]  But in the church of Jesus Christ, we ought to have the spirit have the final say-so.
[00:04:26]  That's right.
[00:04:26]  We ought to have, we ought to be reliant and dependent on the spirit's power to change people.
[00:04:32]  And not just my inspirational speaking.
[00:04:34]  And the spirit will always line up with the word.
[00:04:36]  Because those two are one.
[00:04:37]  And we've noticed that as a common theme, though, in the church, so people say, well, the spirit is telling me this, but it's contradictory to the word.
[00:04:43]  But that is an impossibility.
[00:04:45]  The spirit will always be in line with the word.
[00:04:47]  And we pointed this out the first show we did on this.
[00:04:50]  That's right.
[00:04:50]  Book of Acts.
[00:04:52]  After that outpouring in the upper room, the Spirit of God led Peter to go back to talk about how Joel had prophesied that event.
[00:05:01]  What a perfect picture that is, that the Spirit will use the Word to describe what the Spirit had just done.
[00:05:07]  And the Word will, by prophecy and definition, bring into fruition what the Spirit is going to do.
[00:05:14]  See, the Word and the Spirit go together.
[00:05:16]  And my concern, what I've seen, is that we, how I like to say it's this way, the word and the spirit are the two legs that the believers stand on.
[00:05:24]  And the enemy doesn't mind if you pick one.
[00:05:27]  Oh, wow.
[00:05:27]  So the enemy doesn't mind.
[00:05:28]  He doesn't want you standing on the Spirit.
[00:05:30]  It doesn't make a difference.
[00:05:31]  See, if you, that old saying, you all will know this, the old saying, if you have the word only, you'll dry up.
[00:05:36]  If you have the spirit only, you'll blow up.
[00:05:38]  If you have the word and the spirit, you'll grow up.
[00:05:41]  That's right.
[00:05:41]  So when people only have the word, they become very, very different.
[00:05:46]  This is the word.
[00:05:47]  I'm right.
[00:05:48]  You're wrong.
[00:05:48]  Because my interpretation is to go that way.
[00:05:53]  And when people have the spirit only, they're just bouncing off walls and swinging off chandeliers.
[00:05:58]  Everything is a prophecy.
[00:06:00]  That lady back there sneezed three times.
[00:06:02]  It's a prophetic sign.
[00:06:03]  That lady back there came in late.
[00:06:04]  That's another prophetic sign.
[00:06:06]  Listen, that's not true.
[00:06:08]  It becomes that way.
[00:06:09]  But you need both is what you're saying.
[00:06:12]  You need the word and the spirit.
[00:06:15]  And that's why I say that the enemy doesn't mind if you pick one.
[00:06:19]  Because if you have the word only, you will become a dead, dry traditionalist.
[00:06:23]  And the spirit only, then you become wild, woolly, and crazy.
[00:06:27]  Doesn't make a difference.
[00:06:28]  And we know a lot of that is birthed out of church culture.
[00:06:30]  Yes.
[00:06:31]  So how do we, as the modern day church, I'm talking 2025 and beyond, for our children and for our grandchildren, how do we create the culture in our churches today that sets them up for success to say you're standing on both feet?
[00:06:43]  Listen, I'm a big believer in leadership.
[00:06:46]  I'm a big believer.
[00:06:47]  I echo what John Maxwell said.
[00:06:48]  Everything rises and falls on leadership.
[00:06:51]  I believe we need to have preachers, teachers, ministry leaders, pastors in this generation in all the right rooms stand up again and let people know that God's word still works, hasn't changed.
[00:07:07]  Jesus is still the savior.
[00:07:08]  And Jesus, the master and builder of the church, said, you need a helper, the Holy Spirit.
[00:07:14]  We got to be able to go back and say, here's what Jesus said.
[00:07:18]  Here's how Jesus did this.
[00:07:20]  Here's what Jesus intended.
[00:07:22]  Here's how we're supposed to respond.
[00:07:25]  Do you know that obedience is not optional if you're going to be a believer?
[00:07:30]  That's right.
[00:07:30]  I don't get to say, I like that rule.
[00:07:33]  I'm not sure about that one.
[00:07:34]  And that one doesn't count as much, so no one cares.
[00:07:36]  That's right.
[00:07:37]  As a believer, my only appropriate response to God is obedience.

=== Jonah's Willful Disobedience (15:45) ===

[00:07:43]  Now, who and how is God speaking to me?
[00:07:45]  Primarily, he speaks through the word.
[00:07:47]  So if I'm not obeying the word, I don't qualify for any other leading.
[00:07:51]  But outside of the word, he speaks to me through the Holy Spirit.
[00:07:54]  That's right.
[00:07:55]  And the more word I have, the more I recognize the Holy Spirit.
[00:07:59]  I want to talk about this book because wouldn't it intrigue you?
[00:08:01]  You go from Genesis to Revelation, book by book, revealing how the Spirit has really been there.
[00:08:06]  Because people say, well, Acts chapter 2 is when we see the Spirit begin to move.
[00:08:10]  No, it's actually Genesis chapter 1, verse 1.
[00:08:13]  But right here in Jonah, you describe how the wind of the Spirit can both blow us into our calling and out of enemy traps.
[00:08:19]  Can you unpack that?
[00:08:20]  Listen, I love that you brought up that Jonah chapter because Jonah is such an example of someone walking in willful disobedience.
[00:08:34]  Right?
[00:08:35]  So here is the prophet that God's speaking to, and he's decided that whom God loves, he doesn't like enough to go deliver that message of love.
[00:08:45]  That's good.
[00:08:45]  So he decides, you know what?
[00:08:47]  I'm going to take me a little detour and go in every way so I don't have to do what I don't want the Spirit of God to do, God to do.
[00:08:56]  Somewhere along the line, God in His mercy has him swallowed by a fish.
[00:09:02]  Don't you know that that fish was an act of mercy?
[00:09:06]  Yes.
[00:09:07]  It was an act of mercy not just on Jonah, but on the people of Nineveh.
[00:09:10]  That's right.
[00:09:11]  Can you imagine God's love for the people of Nineveh?
[00:09:16]  That he would send a fish to swallow his prophet?
[00:09:19]  Now, he kept him alive, but he was in an uncomfortable position because of disobedience.
[00:09:25]  And so the wind of God blew him towards the will of God and blew him out of the will of the enemy and his own will.
[00:09:33]  Which was disobedience.
[00:09:34]  Which was disobedience.
[00:09:35]  So consider this: God's hand isn't on us just to move us towards things.
[00:09:41]  God's hand is also on us to move us away from things.
[00:09:45]  Wow.
[00:09:45]  Incredible.
[00:09:46]  And that's in the book of Jonah right here.
[00:09:47]  You go book by book and you explain this.
[00:09:50]  Is this information for me to be able to say, I'm going to digest every book of the Bible?
[00:09:54]  Can I use this as a Wednesday night study guide?
[00:09:56]  What am I able to do with this?
[00:09:57]  Listen, when I was discussing this outline with the publishers, they said, we feel like this is a generational book.
[00:10:05]  It's written in a devotional enough way to draw you into a deeper relationship with the Holy Spirit.
[00:10:11]  But it's also written scripturally enough where it will establish and strengthen you so strength will come to where you know and can declare that God's with you and for you and moving in your behalf.
[00:10:27]  Amen.
[00:10:27]  You know, one of the things I love about this is don't always equate everything as a general statement for the whole entire church.
[00:10:37]  Meaning, take it as an individual, personalize it.
[00:10:42]  Right.
[00:10:42]  When you begin to personalize the scriptures, it changes you personally, meaning it will do a transformation.
[00:10:51]  Yesterday, during a Bible study that I was conducting, I said, don't just know God's word, get to know the God of the Word.
[00:11:00]  Good.
[00:11:00]  It changes, meaning it will transform you when you get to know the God of the Word will transform you through the power of the Holy Spirit.
[00:11:09]  Meaning, the Holy Spirit will give you revelation so there can be transformation and understanding that as an individual is a personal relationship that you have not only with Christ Himself, but with the helper called the Holy Spirit.
[00:11:26]  Yeah, pastor, doctor.
[00:11:30]  What are the first steps we need to take in order to understand how do I begin to have an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit?
[00:11:40]  Mondo, what you just said is, and I mean this, so deep because when we start thinking, entertaining the thought that I can do this without divine help, I'm already refuting and rebuking Jesus who said you need a helper.
[00:11:59]  The very idea that I can do this without help, the very idea that on my own, by my own, I can do this, I'm already indirectly rebuking Jesus.
[00:12:09]  Jesus, you didn't know what you're doing over there in John 14, 15, 16, where you said, I need a helper.
[00:12:14]  That already puts me in the wrong.
[00:12:16]  Now, we were talking about Jonah.
[00:12:20]  And as you were talking, Mondo, it came to my mind this, because you were talking about how people think the word is for everyone else but them.
[00:12:26]  Jonah thought they needed to repent.
[00:12:29]  I don't.
[00:12:30]  That's right.
[00:12:31]  The people in Nineveh, they're in absolute rebellion against God.
[00:12:34]  They need to repent.
[00:12:35]  And while I'm saying no to God, I don't need to repent.
[00:12:39]  And see how God equated it equally.
[00:12:43]  Jonah's individual disobedience was just as bad to him as Nineveh's corporate disobedience.
[00:12:50]  You see, when we have the Holy Spirit in relationship with us and us with him, there is a tenderness comes in our heart.
[00:12:59]  Tenderness doesn't mean weakness.
[00:13:00]  It doesn't mean you're everyone's walking, just walk all over you.
[00:13:04]  That's a whole other seminar right there.
[00:13:07]  Doesn't mean everyone get to chew you up however they want to chew you up.
[00:13:10]  There is a strength that comes with the Holy Spirit.
[00:13:12]  But there is a tenderness in that I all, I all but want to put God first in everything.
[00:13:19]  My thought has to be, God, is this how you'd like me to handle this?
[00:13:23]  Is this how you'd like me to say this?
[00:13:24]  Is this how you'd like me to go about this?
[00:13:27]  As opposed to, trust me, God, I've got this.
[00:13:30]  I know how to do this.
[00:13:31]  I know how to do this.
[00:13:34]  And can I just say to everyone who's watching, I see that at this desk, every time the Baker family have come on to do a show, I've had the privilege of being on quite a few shows, as you all know.
[00:13:45]  And I've seen you all, Pastor Jim, Pastor Laurie, and all the crew, you all have a dependence on the Spirit of God coming out of this broadcast.
[00:13:56]  I've never walked away from this thinking they know what to do because they've done it so much.
[00:14:03]  I've always walked away from this thinking they do what they do because they want him so much.
[00:14:08]  And so there's something about even the way you all have run this.
[00:14:12]  And I want to encourage everyone who's watching, take notes, take spiritual notes.
[00:14:19]  There is something about this desk, this broadcast that's coming to you, that portrays a hunger for the higher and the deeper things of the Spirit of God that will bless you and help you and grow you in ways you maybe even haven't thought of.
[00:14:34]  Amen.
[00:14:35]  Thank you for that.
[00:14:36]  It is dependency on the Holy Spirit and how we can do everything we do.
[00:14:41]  And that's for every believer.
[00:14:42]  If you're watching this today, if you're saying, well, I'm not a pastor, minister, an evangelist, I don't have a role in a church.
[00:14:48]  You need to remain dependent on the Holy Spirit for your everyday life.
[00:14:52]  You know, there's people who say, well, I don't have a role in the church.
[00:14:55]  So do I need as much dependency?
[00:14:57]  But what would you say to that?
[00:14:58]  Oh, listen.
[00:14:59]  I tell everyone, you need the Holy Ghost to go to Walmart.
[00:15:02]  Come on.
[00:15:03]  Come on.
[00:15:05]  Listen.
[00:15:05]  Don't even.
[00:15:07]  So don't.
[00:15:08]  And everybody that goes to Walmart says, amen.
[00:15:12]  As a believer.
[00:15:13]  As a believer.
[00:15:15]  It's true, though.
[00:15:16]  Oh, but listen.
[00:15:17]  Sounds like my wife.
[00:15:19]  Listen, you got so, you're getting deep, but I got to just relate this to you because you know what it is.
[00:15:24]  Anytime she gets ready to go to Walmart, she really, not at a joke, she pleads the blood of Jesus.
[00:15:31]  Right.
[00:15:32]  Not as a joke.
[00:15:32]  Because you don't know who's there.
[00:15:33]  I'm thinking she's joking, but she says, Holy Spirit, go with me.
[00:15:37]  Cover me with your blood.
[00:15:38]  I don't want to get sick today.
[00:15:39]  I don't want.
[00:15:41]  But it's so true, right?
[00:15:43]  So here's a conversation I have with people, and I ask them, as a believer, which part of your life do you not want the covering of the Holy Spirit?
[00:15:53]  Oh, that's good.
[00:15:55]  Your finances, your thought life, your relationships, your professional life, your kids, your grandkids.
[00:16:00]  Which part do you feel like you don't want God's involvement?
[00:16:04]  So it doesn't matter if you don't have a pulpit ministry.
[00:16:07]  It doesn't matter if you're a homemaker.
[00:16:09]  It doesn't matter if you're a retiree.
[00:16:11]  It doesn't matter if you're a student.
[00:16:13]  As a believer, why miss out on your right to have the Holy Spirit actively be a part of your life?
[00:16:19]  Amen.
[00:16:20]  And again, as we've said, the anointing requires recognition because the anointing requires cooperation and you cannot cooperate with what you don't know.
[00:16:29]  We have to know him for ourselves.
[00:16:33]  You talk about recognition, how important that is to just recognize the fact that the Holy Spirit is with you.
[00:16:38]  But if somebody wants to fine-tune their ear in such a busy and noisy world in a world that is truly demanding your attention and fighting for your attention every day, how do we fine-tune our ear to the Holy Spirit to be able in a crowded room to hear a whisper?
[00:16:51]  Well, number one, there is a process of mind renewal.
[00:16:55]  And that involves on purpose taking aside some time every day, getting to the word.
[00:17:00]  And I don't mean just go memorize the book of Leviticus or Exodus or Obadiah, one of these books.
[00:17:05]  I'm not knocking any of those books, but you need to come over into the New Testament because there are letters written in the New Testament that were specifically for you and I.
[00:17:13]  And we need to start hearing the words of Jesus.
[00:17:15]  Again, I'm not, don't write any angry letters to Jim Baker and everyone and tell them he's knocking the old.
[00:17:20]  Let us forward that.
[00:17:21]  Thank you.
[00:17:22]  That wasn't what I was saying.
[00:17:23]  But I'm just saying, why would you not read the letters to you and read the letters to someone else right off the bat?
[00:17:31]  Now, do I have to have a whole grasp of scripture?
[00:17:33]  Yeah, I just wrote a book about the Holy Spirit in every book of the Bible.
[00:17:36]  So I'm a believer in all 66 books.
[00:17:38]  But I start out with the juiciest.
[00:17:41]  And the juiciest are the ones that have to do with me.
[00:17:42]  So renew your mind.
[00:17:43]  Number two, and I'm going to put this out and hear me.
[00:17:47]  Number two, develop a prayer life.
[00:17:49]  That's right.
[00:17:50]  And I don't mean a prayer life as in I'm asking for something.
[00:17:53]  I mean a prayer life as in I'm communicating with someone.
[00:17:56]  True conversation.
[00:17:57]  Conversation.
[00:17:58]  For me, that means praying in tongues, praying in the Holy Ghost.
[00:18:02]  I'm a spirit-filled Pentecostal tongue-talking believer, and I'm not ashamed of it.
[00:18:06]  I pray in tongues.
[00:18:08]  My goal is to be able to say with Paul, I pray in tongues more than all of you.
[00:18:12]  That's my goal.
[00:18:13]  That's my goal.
[00:18:15]  And I have found that in praying, pray in English.
[00:18:19]  Say, Father, help me with today.
[00:18:20]  Say, Father, where do I need to be today?
[00:18:22]  Father, who do I need to see today?
[00:18:24]  What do I need to say when I see them today?
[00:18:26]  Father, is there anything you want me to do that I've already planned?
[00:18:29]  I was going to do anything that I'm not supposed to do.
[00:18:32]  Talk to me.
[00:18:33]  Father, which scripture should I get into?
[00:18:36]  What do you want to speak to me from and with?
[00:18:40]  Going into the word renews your mind.
[00:18:43]  Praying tunes your spirit.
[00:18:45]  Now, you are a broadcast ministry, amongst other things.
[00:18:49]  So you know that out here now in the invisible atmosphere around us, it's all kind of waves.
[00:18:55]  That's right.
[00:18:57]  We got all kinds of waves.
[00:18:58]  There's all kinds of communications going on.
[00:19:01]  It isn't the waves that determine what I hear.
[00:19:04]  It's the devices that are tuned to those waves that translate everything.
[00:19:08]  So it's not just God, please speak.
[00:19:11]  It's God, help me hear what you're already saying.
[00:19:14]  That's good.
[00:19:15]  Because God never not speaks.
[00:19:17]  I got to be tuned in.
[00:19:18]  So the issue isn't God, send out more waves with some more information for me.
[00:19:22]  No, he's already, he always has been.
[00:19:24]  Wow.
[00:19:25]  He always has been.
[00:19:26]  The issue is my heart.
[00:19:28]  The issue is my heart that is tuned to me.
[00:19:30]  The issue is my heart that is tuned to the world.
[00:19:32]  The issues is my heart that's tuned to my mind.
[00:19:34]  The issues is my heart that's tuned to my prejudices.
[00:19:37]  And is that where we get to our Revelation chapter 3, where Jesus is outside of the door knocking?
[00:19:41]  He's there.
[00:19:43]  We're just choosing not to let him in.
[00:19:45]  And again, Revelation 3, it's such a sad picture and yet a tender picture.
[00:19:54]  It's tender because Jesus is standing off at the door of his own church, which he got locked out of.
[00:20:03]  Yes.
[00:20:05]  You can imagine if you got locked out of your house, you'd do everything you can to get back in there.
[00:20:09]  Hire a locksmith, knock the door down.
[00:20:11]  I mean, something.
[00:20:13]  He's just standing there knocking and saying, if anyone will open, hear the tenderness of Jesus.
[00:20:18]  If anyone will open that heart, open the door and let me in, I will come in and sup with him.
[00:20:26]  What was his goal in coming in to the church that he just got locked out of?
[00:20:31]  Not to rebuke them, not to correct them, not to kick their behind for knocking him out of the church.
[00:20:38]  He would have been well within his rights to do any of that.
[00:20:40]  But his heart was, let me come in and fellowship with you.
[00:20:45]  Wow.
[00:20:45]  Think about that.
[00:20:47]  See, see, there isn't an angry Jesus.
[00:20:52]  There isn't a vengeful Jesus.
[00:20:54]  There is a loving, fatherly, caring, nurturing one that wants to sup with us, have fellowship with us, nurture us.
[00:21:06]  This is why we need the Holy Spirit.
[00:21:08]  Amen.
[00:21:09]  And this is why it's important to know where the Holy Spirit is from the book of Genesis all the way to the book of Revelation.
[00:21:14]  So we can see that God has been God since the beginning of time.
[00:21:17]  And when you see that the Holy Spirit has been active with every what we would consider success and what we would consider failure in the Bible.
[00:21:26]  Yes.
[00:21:26]  Right?
[00:21:27]  Personal, professional, in every what way.
[00:21:31]  When you see that the Holy Spirit was there with them and never once left them, for I tell you what, there is hope for you and I yet.
[00:21:40]  There's hope for you and I yet.
[00:21:42]  The Spirit of God, Jesus said, I will never leave you or forsake you.
[00:21:45]  That's right.
[00:21:46]  Well, how is he never going to leave us or forsake us?
[00:21:48]  Well, that was immediately fulfilled in Acts chapter 2 when the Spirit of God was sent to the church.
[00:21:52]  Because once the Spirit of God was sent to the church, Jesus, through the Holy Spirit, never leaves us, never forsakes us.
[00:21:58]  What does never mean?
[00:22:00]  Never.
[00:22:01]  Never means never.
[00:22:02]  You don't need to go to four years of Bible school to figure that out.
[00:22:04]  Never means never.
[00:22:07]  Never means.
[00:22:07]  That wasn't a trick question.
[00:22:08]  Never means never.
[00:22:10]  So he never leaves us.
[00:22:12]  When you read the end of John 14, he says, I would not leave you as orphans.
[00:22:16]  Now, when you read John 14, Jesus is talking about the Holy Spirit.
[00:22:19]  He ends it by saying, I will not leave you as orphans.
[00:22:22]  The implication is, if you reject the ministry of the Spirit, you live like an orphan.
[00:22:28]  We're rejecting a father.
[00:22:30]  You are fatherless because you've rejected the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
[00:22:35]  You hear people talk about an orphan spirit.
[00:22:37]  I'll tell you one.
[00:22:38]  One thing, an orphan spirit is never a life that is aware of the Spirit of God's presence in and among them.
[00:22:45]  We've got to go back to being spirit aware, spirit-friendly, spirit-hungry in our gatherings again.
[00:22:52]  That's good.
[00:22:52]  And when we do, we'll see a church on fire for Jesus again.
[00:22:55]  I believe we'll see America being the pinnacle of Christianity once again, sending out missionaries, doing the work of the Lord around the world.
[00:23:03]  Because right now what we're seeing is missionaries being sent to the United States.
[00:23:05]  Well, yeah, you know, years ago when I was a kid growing up in Singapore, Lester Sumrall used to come every year and do a ministers conference.

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[00:23:13]  And I would sit up in the nosebleeds.
[00:23:15]  I was just a kid.
[00:23:16]  And I remember one year, Lester Sumrall said, and this wasn't the only time he said it, but it was the first time I heard him say it.
[00:23:21]  One year he said, under a prophetic influence, a prophetic anointing come on him.
[00:23:25]  He said, in America's days of darkest need, he's going to send sons and daughters from around the world to come back and help America.
[00:23:34]  I think those are the days that you and I live in now.
[00:23:36]  Yes.
[00:23:37]  I consider myself, I consider myself part of that group, but that tells me that the Holy Spirit isn't done with this land.
[00:23:43]  That's right.
[00:23:44]  That tells me the Holy Spirit isn't done with the church here.
[00:23:47]  That tells me that his plans and his purposes are not yet over.
[00:23:50]  His hand hasn't lifted off this land because he's still sending people, sons and daughters, prophets and apostles with a word for this land to come.
[00:23:59]  There's hope for us yet because the Spirit of God is still stirring.
[00:24:03]  And it's time for us, the church, to rise up, grab a hold of and move with the Spirit of God.
[00:24:08]  Amen.
[00:24:09]  This is an incredible time.
[00:24:10]  Friends, I want to encourage you, go get this book, Seeing the Spirit, Revealing the Holy Spirit in every book of the Bible.
[00:24:14]  We're going to put it up on the screen so you can see it.
[00:24:16]  Revealing the Holy Spirit in every book of the Bible.
[00:24:21]  I want to say thank you for doing this.
[00:24:22]  What an incredible work.
[00:24:24]  Because this is not just something that you whip together in a month and say, I want to publish another book.
[00:24:28]  Let me get some more content out there.
[00:24:31]  This is truly a lifetime worth of work so that you can pass off to the next generation.
[00:24:36]  I really do believe this is a generational book because somebody will be able to open this and say, let me see where the Spirit was moving in Obadiah.
[00:24:42]  Let me see where the Spirit was moving in Exodus.
[00:24:44]  Let me see where the Spirit was moving in Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James.
[00:24:48]  I think this is incredible work.
[00:24:50]  If someone's watching this today and they're saying, you know what, I think I want to get this, but I want to get it as a gift for someone.
[00:24:54]  We're in the holiday season.
[00:24:55]  Who would you say that they would be giving this to?
[00:24:57]  Oh, listen, you need to put this in the hand of every minister you know.
[00:25:00]  You need to put this in the hand of every young person you know.
[00:25:03]  You need to put this in the hand of every new believer you know.
[00:25:05]  That's good.
[00:25:06]  Why?
[00:25:06]  Because they need to know right from the very get-go that the Spirit of God's for them.
[00:25:10]  Preachers need to get a hold of this book because they need to know how to start working the Holy Spirit back into their messages again.
[00:25:17]  He's standing at the door of your church now and knocking.
[00:25:19]  Wow.
[00:25:20]  We have to have him back in church.
[00:25:22]  Wow.
[00:25:22]  If somebody's watching today and they said, you know, I want to give my life to the Lord.
[00:25:25]  I just don't know what that looks like, James.
[00:25:26]  I'm scared to jump in because I have this established lifestyle in which I'm living right now and I don't know what it would look like to be ripped away from that.
[00:25:33]  What would you say to them today?
[00:25:34]  The Spirit of God never leaves you, never forsakes you.
[00:25:37]  The very fact that you're asking that question is an indication that the Holy Spirit is working on your life.
[00:25:44]  Allow for God to lead you.
[00:25:46]  Not only raise those questions, but allow for him to lead you into a fullness of relationship with him.
[00:25:52]  There's a number on your screen you can call.
[00:25:54]  There are prayer counselors and partners who can help you now enter into a full relationship with Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.
[00:26:04]  Amen.
[00:26:04]  Friends, the most important thing that you will ever do in your entire life is give your life to Jesus Christ.
[00:26:10]  I know you may have heard that message hundreds of times and you may have prayed his salvation prayer, but you're saying, my heart feels far from him.
[00:26:16]  I feel like I don't have a daily relationship with the Holy Spirit.
[00:26:20]  There's never been a better day to start.
[00:26:21]  Eternity is at stake.
[00:26:23]  I know sometimes we talk about the issues happening around the world politically, geopolitically.
[00:26:27]  We talk about the things that are happening culturally.
[00:26:29]  But friends, we'll never back down from the position of Jesus.
[00:26:31]  Why?
[00:26:32]  Because we care about where you will eternally sit for forever.
[00:26:36]  We want you to be seated at the foot of Jesus, basking in his glory.
[00:26:39]  Friends, there will be a day, one day in a billion years, times a billion years that you'll be able to realize cognitively that eternity has just begun, that we've just scratched the surface of our time starting with God forever.
[00:26:52]  But in the same capacity, there's eternal separation.
[00:26:55]  And friends, you'll have the same cognitive ability to say in multiple trillions of years, eternity of separation has just begun.
[00:27:02]  And friends, I care about you.
[00:27:03]  We love you enough to say, give your life to Jesus today.
[00:27:07]  Friends, he'll be a comforter.
[00:27:09]  He'll be a friend to you.
[00:27:10]  He'll pick you up when you fall down.
[00:27:12]  He'll make sure that you have what you need when you need it.
[00:27:15]  If a father here on earth knows how to give good gifts to their child, how much more does our father in heaven take care of us?
[00:27:22]  If he knows when a bird falls out of the sky and he can count the hairs on your head, even as you lose them progressively throughout your life, how much more does he care for you?
[00:27:31]  Friends, you have a father and a friend who loves you and loves you so much that he was willing to lay down his life.
[00:27:36]  Why?
[00:27:37]  The Bible says for the joy set before him.
[00:27:39]  If you need to know what that joy looked like today, I want you to find a mirror, look yourself in the eye, and tell yourself out loud, I was the joy set before him.
[00:27:48]  And friends, he loves you that much.
[00:27:49]  Give your life to Jesus.
[00:27:50]  It'll be the best decision you've ever made in your entire life.
[00:27:52]  And I want to encourage you, when you give your life to Jesus, get study books like this that'll let you see the Holy Spirit in action from Genesis to Revelation.
[00:28:00]  I promise you, this is something that will change your life.
[00:28:02]  Dr. James, I want to say thank you for being on the broadcast with us today.
[00:28:05]  Friends, never forget this as we run out of time today.
[00:28:08]  God loves you.
[00:28:09]  He really does.
[00:28:10]  Give your life to Jesus today.
[00:28:11]  Amen.
[00:28:11]  Bye-bye for today.
[00:28:16]  God loves you.
[00:28:19]  God loves you.
[00:28:20]  He really does.