Jim Bakker Show - The Jim Bakker Show with Rick Renner Part 2 Aired: 2025-10-03 Duration: 28:10 === Peter's Warning (15:35) === [00:00:00] Welcome to the Jim Baker Family Show. [00:00:03] Today, Pastor Rick Renner discusses his book, The Rapture, the Antichrist, and the Tribulation. [00:00:10] Our co-hosts today are Pastor Ricky Baker and Reverend Mondo de la Vega. [00:00:15] And now, here is your host, Pastor Jim Baker. [00:00:20] Hello, everybody. [00:00:22] Welcome back with Pastor Rick Renner all the way from Moscow. [00:00:29] Russia. [00:00:30] That's right. [00:00:30] That's right. [00:00:32] And I'd still like to ask him how come he moved to Russia, but we don't have any time to introduce you. [00:00:40] It's called the Jim Baker Show, so I think you can do that. [00:00:43] Rick, are you there? [00:00:45] I'm here, Brother Jim. [00:00:47] And I moved to Russia, but when I moved here, it wasn't Russia. [00:00:51] It was the Soviet Union. [00:00:52] But we came here because it was the moment when the door opened and people were spiritually hungry. [00:00:59] And the Lord basically said to me, I'm reassigning you. [00:01:02] I'm taking you where I need you to be. [00:01:04] And we came, and it's the greatest thing we ever did in our life. [00:01:08] Amen. [00:01:09] Can I say something? [00:01:11] Franklin Graham, you know, I was there when Billy Graham died. [00:01:17] He was in the casket. [00:01:19] Yeah, you were there at his funeral. [00:01:21] And Franklin told me things that God said would happen. [00:01:27] And God spoke to me that there would not be another Billy Graham, but there was going to be a dozen Billy Grahams. [00:01:36] Amen. [00:01:36] And I believe Charlie Kirk was one of them. [00:01:39] Amen. [00:01:40] And I believe that Rick Renner is another one. [00:01:44] Absolutely. [00:01:46] I believe you're one of the Billy Grahams. [00:01:51] That's mighty big. [00:01:52] Thank you, Brother Jim. [00:01:53] But in the end times, he's going to have to raise up men. [00:01:59] You know, Brother Jim, in Matthew chapter 24, Jesus was speaking about end time events. [00:02:05] And there's one thing there that most Christians don't like to talk about. [00:02:10] Jesus said there would be persecution at the end of the age, and he said they will hate you. [00:02:16] That word hate is the word messiah, and it means to find utterly repulsive. [00:02:22] It's not just dislike. [00:02:24] It is real hatred. [00:02:26] And today, we're living in an age when there really is real hatred for the truth. [00:02:33] It's just unbelievable that we're seeing it. [00:02:37] What Jesus said would take place, it is taking place right in front of us. [00:02:42] And this is not a time for any of us to be weak. [00:02:47] It's time for us to gather ourselves together, grab hold of the power of the Holy Ghost and say, hey, we're going to do what we're called to do regardless of the opposition. [00:02:56] This is our hour, and we need to shine the light. [00:03:00] I've never seen such vicious hate for godly things. [00:03:08] This demon possession. [00:03:11] The demons in hell hate Jesus. [00:03:13] That's right. [00:03:16] Rick, I want to play a song that it's a country song. [00:03:20] Ricky's not a country singer, I don't think. [00:03:23] I'm not a country singer. [00:03:24] I listen to the music, but I'm definitely not a country singer. [00:03:28] I don't even know who it is. [00:03:30] This is a TikToker by the name of Diesel that wrote some lyrics and added it to a song to pay tribute to Charlie. [00:03:39] Can I play just a little bit of a benefit? [00:03:42] And then I'll be right back to Rick Renner. [00:03:44] Here's the song for Charlie Kirk. [00:03:48] A young Christian man took a bullet for speaking his mind. [00:03:54] Name was Charlie. [00:03:57] Husband, daddy, voice for the kids, Lord. [00:03:59] Why'd it go down like that? [00:04:04] Stage lights cold as a winter rain. [00:04:07] One breath, one prayer, then the world went strange. [00:04:11] Crowd froze up when the thunder cracked. [00:04:14] Truth on the mic and a life attacked. [00:04:17] He talked about hope and a storm and land. [00:04:21] Bible in the heart and a promise in his hands. [00:04:24] But a shadow reached from a coward's perch, cut down a sun in the middle of church. [00:04:30] And I swear if the tables turned the other way, y'all know there'd be fires in the streets today. [00:04:37] But here we stand with candles and a folded flag, begging God for mercy on the road we drive. [00:04:46] How dare they steal the breath from a faithful man? [00:04:53] How dare they stain the grass where his boots once stand? [00:05:00] They call us evil point at our cross. [00:05:06] Then pull that trigger and reckon no cost. [00:05:13] If it were theirs, there'd be sirens in flames. [00:05:20] But we're praying for truth while we whisper his name. [00:05:26] Charlie, we ain't letting go of your hand. [00:05:33] Wow. [00:05:34] That's a little bit of that song. [00:05:36] But Lord, listen to that. [00:05:43] I'm not exactly a country person, but I like country music when it's hard like that. [00:05:49] What do you think, Rick? [00:05:52] Is this your show? [00:05:55] Well, I think that we're living in perilous times, but it's all right. [00:06:00] Jesus knew this was going to happen. [00:06:02] And hey, we've been studying the Bible, preparing for years and years about how to walk in power and walk in faith. [00:06:08] Now it's time for us to get on the field and play the game. [00:06:12] You know, there's a lot of textbook football players. [00:06:15] Well, that's not us. [00:06:16] God's calling us to get out of the grandstands, get on the field. [00:06:20] It's time for us to play for the victory. [00:06:24] That's really where we are right now. [00:06:26] And churches all over the world, churches all over America right now, they're being roused by this tragic event that has taken place. [00:06:35] And you know, Brother Jim and Ricky and Mondo, I was thinking, here we are so close to the rapture of the church, and we're seeing millions of believers being galvanized. [00:06:47] And it's amazing. [00:06:49] I can't remember anything like this in my life when so many millions suddenly were galvanized and came together. [00:06:58] And I know that God did not do this to Charlie Kirk. [00:07:01] Of course not. [00:07:02] He would never do that. [00:07:03] But God is definitely causing this thing to backfire on the devil. [00:07:08] And he's pulling his church together. [00:07:10] And I think it is glorious what has happened. [00:07:13] And I just pray that it's more than temporary. [00:07:15] I pray it really has a long-lasting effect. [00:07:18] I want to go into your book. [00:07:21] Why do you believe so many churches avoid teaching on the end times when it's an our book? [00:07:29] The book of God. [00:07:31] There are so many different positions. [00:07:32] For example, there's pre-trib, there's mid-trib, there's pre-wrath, there's post-trib. [00:07:40] There's all these different views. [00:07:42] And so a lot of pastors are afraid to touch this subject because they're not certain themselves what they believe or they don't know how to teach it. [00:07:51] But you know, the truth is, let's just be honest. [00:07:55] If we're all wrong, we're all wrong by about three and a half years or seven years. [00:08:00] Jesus is coming. [00:08:01] And between three and one and seven years in that time period, we're going to see the coming of the Lord, whether it's pre-trib or post-trib. [00:08:10] Jesus is coming. [00:08:11] He's really coming. [00:08:13] And the church is going to be caught up to meet him in the air. [00:08:16] It is so glorious what is going to take place in that event. [00:08:20] There's going to be the blast of a trumpet. [00:08:23] And I write about it in this book. [00:08:25] And by the way, friends, you need to get this book. [00:08:27] And I'm not trying to sell a book. [00:08:29] I wrote this book because I believe it will bring you clarity. [00:08:34] And you need to get several because you have friends that are asking questions. [00:08:38] Even your pastor needs a copy of this book. [00:08:41] This will really bring clarity to people that are confused. [00:08:46] And we need to know what the Bible says about the biggest next event that's going to take place. [00:08:52] Hi, yi-yi. [00:08:54] How dare we not know what the Bible says? [00:08:57] It's the next big event. [00:08:59] And we need to be ready. [00:09:01] Jesus said he's coming for those that are watching and waiting. [00:09:04] So we need to know what we're watching and waiting for. [00:09:08] This is the most important book that I've ever read, except the Bible. [00:09:16] This is what's now, now, now, now. [00:09:20] And I just beg you to get this book because I want you not to, I don't want these things to happen unaware. [00:09:29] I want you to know what God is doing. [00:09:33] We're entering a perilous time. [00:09:36] And people say, why did Charlie Kirk get assassinated? [00:09:41] He was doing nothing but good. [00:09:44] He was talking to thousands of college kids, Mondo. [00:09:48] Absolutely. [00:09:49] Listen, this generation has a lot of questions and the church has not provided the answers that this generation is looking for. [00:09:57] And here you had a young man that had the revelation on how to bring the gospel into a generation and challenge their thinking. [00:10:06] Listen, this man, whether you believe it or not, he didn't go there attacking anybody. [00:10:11] He went in there challenging what you believe. [00:10:15] And a lot of people get rattled when they can't answer what they believe and what they stand for, and they call that divisive. [00:10:22] But I want to tell you something. [00:10:24] If the world is paying attention to what's happening, we ought to pay attention because chapter six in this book that we are wanting you to get, Pastor Rick Renner writes about mockers in the last days. [00:10:39] And there are people that are mocking what's happening right now. [00:10:42] That's right. [00:10:43] And yet we don't understand the meaning behind it. [00:10:46] We are fighting not against flesh and blood. [00:10:50] We are fighting, Rick Renner, Pastor Dr. Rick Renner, against spirituality that we may not understand. [00:10:58] But can you talk about chapter six? [00:11:01] Because I believe this could be where we are right now. [00:11:05] And you write about mockers in the last days. [00:11:08] Can you elaborate a little bit more about what you write about? [00:11:13] Well, in 2 Peter chapter 3, verse 3, Peter's writing about the end of the age. [00:11:18] And he says, know this. [00:11:20] And the Greek is what's called a participle. [00:11:23] You would translate it, know this, know this, know this, know this. [00:11:26] You absolutely must know this. [00:11:29] So he's telling us it's something that we really need to know. [00:11:33] And then he says, in the last days, there will arise mockers. [00:11:38] But guess what, Mondo? [00:11:39] The Greek says it a little different. [00:11:41] It says mocking mockers. [00:11:43] So there are people who are really giving themselves over to mockery. [00:11:48] They're mocking mockers at the end of the age. [00:11:53] And if you read the book of Jude, and if you read 2 Peter chapter 2, it also says that at the end of the age, there will be the emergence of those that are railers of authority. [00:12:07] Is that amazing? [00:12:08] We're living in the day when people just rail every kind of authority. [00:12:13] If you're a parent, if you're a boss, if you're a pastor, if you are a government leader, if you're a president, it doesn't matter who you are, if you're the head of a ministry, people rail anybody who is in authority. [00:12:26] It's this mocking spirit which is in the land. [00:12:30] It really is in the land. [00:12:32] And according to Peter in 2 Peter 3, verse 3, when these mocking mockers arise, it is one of the blaring signs that we've sailed clear to the end of the age. [00:12:44] We are at the very end. [00:12:47] And that's pretty important for us to understand. [00:12:51] It's pretty important. [00:12:53] You describe the rapture as a rescue operation rather than an escape plan. [00:13:02] That's a powerful distinction. [00:13:05] Well, it's also an escape. [00:13:07] You know, I would like to escape as much of what's going to happen in the tribulation as possible. [00:13:12] But Jesus doesn't call us just to waste time and wait so we can escape. [00:13:17] This is a time for us to work. [00:13:18] That's why I appreciate what you all are doing. [00:13:21] On your daily program and all your programs, you are reaching out to rescue the perishing, to care for the dying. [00:13:28] This is the moment for us to reach people that need to be reached. [00:13:31] But a moment is coming when Jesus is going to make a move into the lower atmosphere and he's going to evacuate his church just before things turn really, really bad. [00:13:44] Now, some people say, oh, come on. [00:13:47] God's people have always lived through hard times. [00:13:51] Why would God remove them from the tribulation? [00:13:54] Well, let me tell you something. [00:13:56] There's a difference between hard times and the tribulation. [00:14:00] No one has ever experienced what's going to happen in the tribulation when bowls of wrath are going to be poured out upon the earth. [00:14:09] My friend, that's not just going through hard times. [00:14:11] I live in this former Soviet Union where I know a lot of people that went to jail for their faith. [00:14:16] They suffered, but they never went through wrath. [00:14:20] Wrath is an entirely different issue. [00:14:23] And the rapture is going to happen just in the nick of time. [00:14:26] We're going to be removed. [00:14:28] And then God is going to wage war against the ungodly. [00:14:34] And I don't want to be here when God does that because Jesus said it will be a time like there has never been and there will never be again. [00:14:44] And just in the nick of time, Jesus is going to evacuate us. [00:14:49] It is a rescue operation. [00:14:53] God gave me a warning from the prophets when I was 19 years old. [00:15:02] And he said, I would help usher in the coming of the Lord. [00:15:06] And I'm holding on to that, Ricky. [00:15:08] Amen. [00:15:08] As you should. [00:15:09] I'm holding on to it. [00:15:10] Amen. [00:15:11] Because I believe we are in that most important time. [00:15:16] And I want to thank you for letting your old man come back and preach the gospel because. === Coming For The Alive Ones (04:25) === [00:15:24] Amen. [00:15:26] Well, you're a voice in the church. [00:15:27] I believe I've been born for such a time as this, not what I've gone through already. [00:15:32] And I've been through hell. [00:15:34] Yeah. [00:15:35] But I've been through heaven too. [00:15:36] I've been through great miracles. [00:15:39] Well, you're a voice right now, not an echo. [00:15:41] We need your voice now more than ever, especially with the times we're living in. [00:15:45] And I've seen the wrath of Satan, and I've seen him try to destroy everything we've ever done, but God always has delivered me. [00:15:59] I've never seen the righteous forsaken or his seed out begging for bread. [00:16:04] That's what the Bible says. [00:16:06] Amen. [00:16:07] Do you believe that, Rick? [00:16:09] Absolutely. [00:16:10] Praise God. [00:16:14] Tell us some more about the book, your important parts of it, because we only have 10 minutes left. [00:16:20] I'm so sorry that our show is, we're in the last days and we have shorter times. [00:16:29] Well, I want to talk about who Jesus is coming for. [00:16:33] He's coming for the church. [00:16:35] But, Brother Jim, what I've learned is there's a lot of people in the church that are not really of the church. [00:16:41] There's a lot of mannequins in the church. [00:16:44] We're told in 2 Timothy 3, verse 5, that in the end of the age, there'll be a big group of people that have a form of godliness, but they won't be the real thing. [00:16:55] One day I was in New York City with my wife. [00:16:58] She was shopping. [00:16:59] And I bumped into a woman and I turned to apologize. [00:17:02] And I was carrying on a conversation with this woman when I realized it was a mannequin. [00:17:08] But it was so perfectly made, I thought I was talking to a woman. [00:17:14] Well, in the church, there are a lot of people who sound right. [00:17:18] They look right. [00:17:19] They say the right words. [00:17:20] They carry a Bible. [00:17:21] They might even have a cross wrapped around their neck. [00:17:24] But inwardly, they're lacking the real substance. [00:17:29] So when you come to 1 Thessalonians 4, verse 16 and 17, the Bible says he's coming for those that are alive and remain. [00:17:41] So I looked up that word alive. [00:17:43] And in Greek, it actually means he's coming for the living ones, the living ones, the vibrant ones, the ones that are spiritually connected and engaged. [00:17:56] That's who he's coming for. [00:17:58] And then it clarifies those that remain. [00:18:01] Well, I thought that just meant whoever was alive at the moment. [00:18:04] But in fact, that word remain is specifically the Greek word for two things. [00:18:11] Number one, it describes the remnant of a big piece of garment. [00:18:15] The big garment's been lost. [00:18:17] It's gone. [00:18:17] Now all that lasts remains is a remnant. [00:18:21] Secondly, it was used to describe soldiers who survived a battle. [00:18:25] All the other soldiers are killed. [00:18:27] They're all gone, but there are stragglers or there are survivors. [00:18:32] So when you come to that phrase and it says those that are alive and remain, it actually means he's coming for those, the vibrant ones, the living ones, those that are really spiritually engaged. [00:18:44] That is, those that have survived everything and are still there at the moment for the coming of the Lord. [00:18:50] And it implies that that number may be smaller than we think, which explains why Jesus said when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth? [00:19:01] There might be a lot of mannequins. [00:19:03] He's not coming for them. [00:19:05] He's coming for those that are the real deal. [00:19:08] And this is a time for all believers to examine their hearts to really make sure they're in the faith. [00:19:13] If you know the Lord is coming soon, this is a good moment for you to do a personal checkout to make sure everything is right and that you're ready to look into the face of Jesus. [00:19:24] I want everybody to read this book. [00:19:27] It's a big book. [00:19:29] How many pages is the book? === Read Rick Renner's Book (06:19) === [00:19:31] I know it's 11 chapters and you're probably going to have about 400 pages. [00:19:37] I think it's 450 pages. [00:19:39] But I want everybody to get this book. [00:19:42] This is a book of truth. [00:19:45] It's a book of the word. [00:19:47] And I want you to read the revelation, read the, and he's going to help you get through the people. [00:19:56] Say, I don't understand it. [00:19:57] Well, you can have Rick Renner help you through the book of Revelation. [00:20:03] The rapture, the Antichrist, and the tribulation. [00:20:06] You need to know what's coming. [00:20:08] Amen. [00:20:10] Oh, I wish I had time. [00:20:13] God showed me that. [00:20:14] I want to say thank you for having me. [00:20:16] It's been such a privilege to be with you. [00:20:18] Well, you've got to promise to come back. [00:20:21] I will. [00:20:22] I know you're busy. [00:20:23] I know you're busy. [00:20:25] But we need you. [00:20:26] We need you bad. [00:20:28] And this ministry is dedicated for the coming of the Lord. [00:20:33] And we just, this book is so important for the end times that I want everybody to get it. [00:20:42] I would wish we could send out a million books. [00:20:45] Could you do that, Ricky? [00:20:46] We could absolutely do that. [00:20:48] Listen, you can go to the website, jimbakershot.com and visit the affiliate page, NORIMEA, or better yet, you can give us a call at 1-888-988-1588. [00:21:01] Everett, please order the book. [00:21:05] You want to understand the end times? [00:21:08] This is the greatest book ever written about it. [00:21:11] Amen. [00:21:14] Do you think I know about the Revelation? [00:21:16] I know you've spent decades, not just time, years, months, decades of your life. [00:21:21] People call me an expert, but I'm not. [00:21:24] I would call an expert. [00:21:25] This man's an expert. [00:21:26] I'm not an expert. [00:21:28] He's an expert. [00:21:29] And I want you to find out more about the Revelation, about what God says is the end times, what's coming now. [00:21:39] And when they murdered Charlie Kirk, I saw it happen. [00:21:45] Did you see it? [00:21:46] Absolutely. [00:21:47] They shot him in his vocal cords. [00:21:50] And the blood just gushed out of him. [00:21:53] I actually saw it. [00:21:54] And they say, well, they don't want you to see it, but I think you ought to see it. [00:22:00] I'm just one who thinks you ought to see what the devil's doing. [00:22:04] I want Rick to tell me a couple of just the most important things in this book. [00:22:12] I know that it's hard to, this is a big book, so that's hard to question to ask, but you can do it. [00:22:17] I know you can do it. [00:22:19] Well, I believe the takeaway of this book is that Jesus really is coming. [00:22:22] This is not a fantasy. [00:22:23] It's not a fairy tale. [00:22:25] He's coming, and he could come at any moment. [00:22:29] And every Christian needs to be ready. [00:22:32] And we need to seize the moment to speak to our family, our friends, to make sure they know the Lord so that when he comes, they will be included. [00:22:43] I believe that's the most important takeaway from this book. [00:22:49] Can you tell me about your church in Russia because we call it off the air? [00:22:54] Because I don't think people know who you really are because they only see you on these short pieces from Russia. [00:23:03] But you have a mighty church there in Russia, don't you? [00:23:08] We do. [00:23:08] We have a large church in Moscow, and we have many affiliates. [00:23:11] We're starting affiliates all over Russia right now. [00:23:14] And God is really working in Russia. [00:23:16] Don't believe the news. [00:23:17] The news lies about everything. [00:23:20] God is working in Russia in a mighty, mighty way. [00:23:24] And I'm just so honored that he's allowed me to be a big part of it. [00:23:28] And it's a privilege. [00:23:31] Pastor Rick Renner, I want to ask you, do you have church people that are full of the Holy Spirit? [00:23:42] Absolutely filled with the Holy Ghost speaking in tongues. [00:23:46] We are the real deal. [00:23:48] There's thousands of us. [00:23:51] In the middle of Russia. [00:23:53] Right downtown Moscow. [00:23:55] That's exactly right. [00:23:58] You have continued to write your great books. [00:24:00] You have continued to go all over the world. [00:24:06] But you truly are a voice to this generation. [00:24:10] Amen. [00:24:11] Well, thank you, brother. [00:24:12] Thank you, Brother Jim. [00:24:13] And you've written so many. [00:24:15] How many books do you think you've written? [00:24:18] I think about 60. [00:24:20] And are they all on line with our website? [00:24:25] He's published them through different publishers, but everything we have through Nori Media is available through our affiliate program. [00:24:30] Okay. [00:24:30] So just go to our website and look up Rick Renner. [00:24:36] How do you look it up? [00:24:37] Yep, you go to our website and go to our Nori Media affiliate, and then you can just type in Pastor Rick Renner's name, Rick Renner, and it'll pop up all the different books that he's authored through our Nori Media affiliate. [00:24:47] And what company is that? [00:24:49] That's Harrison House. [00:24:50] That's Destiny Image. [00:24:52] Yes, sir. 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