Jim Bakker Show - The Constitutional Crisis - Gordon Pennington
Aired: 2020-05-25
Duration: 02:44


=== Met Militia Members (02:44) ===

[00:00:00]  Saying that you have a constitutional crisis, then, Gordon, do you think that this could spark like a civil war of type or anything like that?
[00:00:10]  Well, that's an interesting question.
[00:00:12]  I think what happens very often is the more militant people, you have a Michigan has several kinds of militias and so on.
[00:00:20]  And these are people that feel very strongly about their Second Amendment rights, the right to bear arms and to open carry.
[00:00:28]  and as the governor said, brandishing arms and ammunition.
[00:00:31]  And they do.
[00:00:32]  I've seen this.
[00:00:32]  I've witnessed this.
[00:00:33]  This has been going on for years.
[00:00:36]  And on occasion, they'll show up.
[00:00:37]  But I have also noticed that in contra distinction to the photograph that was published, I think, a week ago, Thursday, where there was a gathering at the state capitol of Michigan.
[00:00:51]  And people gathered there were exercising their First Amendment rights to free speech and free assembly and their Second Amendment right to bear arms.
[00:01:00]  I did not see any of them agitate law enforcement officers or other people.
[00:01:05]  They were actually very respectful.
[00:01:06]  They were angry, they were frustrated, but I didn't see any of them agitate or incite violence ever at all.
[00:01:13]  And the photograph that was widely published around the world, actually, I saw it in the BBC news, was of a man who was apparently shouting or really screaming.
[00:01:24]  It looked angry, but he wasn't spitting in the face between the two state police officers.
[00:01:29]  If you look closely and you look at the perspective, this is something that journalists do frequently because you can shift the perceptions by shifting the perspective of an image.
[00:01:42]  And it was made to look like he was disrespecting the law enforcement.
[00:01:46]  So I talked to some of those law enforcement officers.
[00:01:48]  I know some of them.
[00:01:49]  And they did not feel this.
[00:01:51]  They felt there was a lot of anger, but none of them that I have spoken with felt that they were in jeopardy or they were being threatened.
[00:01:59]  So a lot of this is symbolic.
[00:02:00]  And I think the news media generally plays on this.
[00:02:03]  By the way, that was the militia types were probably 1 or 2% of the people present there.
[00:02:09]  And I met people, I went to this rally to see for myself what was going on.
[00:02:14]  And I met people who were graduate students, PhDs.
[00:02:17]  I met professors.
[00:02:19]  I met people of all, I met first frontline providers of health care services from Detroit.
[00:02:24]  I met African Americans.
[00:02:26]  I met minorities of all stripes.
[00:02:28]  Of course, they were ignored by the mainstream media because it didn't comport with the narrative they wanted to present to the public.
[00:02:35]  But these people were frustrated.
[00:02:36]  By the way, it was bipartisan.
[00:02:38]  I met people from a variety of different political persuasions and virtually no political persuasion and all different ages.