Jim Bakker Show - Discerning God's Calling - Dr Lance Wallnau on The Jim Bakker Show
Aired: 2019-05-20
Duration: 03:41


=== A Seinfeld Moment (03:41) ===

[00:00:00]  When did God first call you to be a voice for the church and for really electing the right officers, I mean the right presidents, the right senators or congressmen?
[00:00:16]  I personally think that it was when I started hearing friends of mine like Rick Joyner and you talking about where America was at.
[00:00:25]  Because like so many Christians, I just wanted to preach spiritual kingdom optimistic messages and focus on revival.
[00:00:33]  But I heard something in your voice and the way in which you had grounded it in real concern.
[00:00:39]  And then I started reading Dinish D'Souza and other people and I said, oh my God, I myself am part of the problem because as a preacher, as somebody had an audience, I was ignoring what was happening in the controversies of my country and the world in order to focus on solutions that are Christ-centered.
[00:01:02]  But I was having a conversation with Christians.
[00:01:04]  I wasn't affecting the world.
[00:01:06]  So the moment that I got called by accident up to a Trump meeting, and I came out of that, and I walked in, I wasn't supposed to be there.
[00:01:14]  It was like Kenneth Colpen was there, and Paul White.
[00:01:17]  And I actually was so, I got so insecure.
[00:01:19]  I went up to the doorman, and I said, am I on that list?
[00:01:22]  Because I thought there was a mistake made.
[00:01:24]  Everyone had a big ministry of something.
[00:01:26]  And the guy says, yeah, you're on the list.
[00:01:28]  I put you on the list.
[00:01:29]  I said, well, who are you?
[00:01:30]  He said, I'm the PR agent.
[00:01:32]  I heard you in a little meeting down there in Florida, and I made a decision right then.
[00:01:35]  If I could get you in front of Trump, you're going.
[00:01:41]  So I thought, oh, and so I'm in the meeting, that big boardroom, and Trump's talking, and there's, you know, Justin Franklin and the Kennedy Colby.
[00:01:48]  And I'm peeing quiet.
[00:01:49]  And actually, because it was new.
[00:01:51]  And I'm thinking, man, what am I, surreal?
[00:01:53]  What am I doing here?
[00:01:54]  And all of a sudden I get a kick under the chair.
[00:01:56]  And that PR agent says, you better say something.
[00:01:59]  And so he forced me to open my mouth and start talking because I was just going to be humble and just watch.
[00:02:07]  So I spoke.
[00:02:09]  And after I spoke, I got invited to another meeting.
[00:02:12]  And I was just speaking because I didn't want to embarrass myself in front of the guy that kicked my chair.
[00:02:17]  But all I knew was Donald Trump is a wrecking ball to the spirit of political correctness.
[00:02:21]  I heard the Lord say that.
[00:02:23]  The next meeting, I'm invited to a Trump rally in Atlanta.
[00:02:26]  I go down to Atlanta, and I'm there, and it was like one of the, it was one TV program, but it had like a whole African-American, it wasn't BET, but it was kind of like they were bringing all the pastors up that were African-American, and they're all dressed so really well.
[00:02:44]  And then they see me standing along the side.
[00:02:47]  I was invited, and they said live on television, they said, oh, ladies and gentlemen, look what we have over here.
[00:02:53]  It's Donald Trump's number two man, Michael Cohen.
[00:02:56]  And they brought me over.
[00:03:00]  Come on over.
[00:03:00]  And I'm in front of the cameras now, in front of this audience, and I'm staring at thinking, what do I do?
[00:03:06]  And he hand me the microphone and say, well, Mr. Cohen, why don't you say something?
[00:03:11]  And I tried to clear my throat, and I said, I'm not Michael Cohen.
[00:03:15]  And it's like I had like a Seinfeld moment.
[00:03:18]  It was so embarrassing.
[00:03:20]  And I said, I said, Donald Trump is a wrecking ball to the spirit of political correctness.
[00:03:25]  Thank you.
[00:03:26]  So I get the microphone back.
[00:03:29]  Right.
[00:03:29]  And I look at them all going, wrecking ball.
[00:03:32]  Next thing you know, everywhere you go, wrecking ball, wrecking ball, wrecking ball.
[00:03:36]  And I realized I may not have been involved.
[00:03:39]  I don't know how I got in.
[00:03:40]  I don't know how I got on.