Jim Bakker Show - Leading A Divided Nation - Dr. Steve Greene & Steve Strang
Aired: 2017-11-01
Duration: 04:03


=== Major Change Afoot (02:25) ===

[00:00:00]  How does our president lead?
[00:00:03]  You're the leader expert.
[00:00:05]  How does he lead a divided nation?
[00:00:08]  I mean, when half the people hate you.
[00:00:12]  It's rough waking up in the morning.
[00:00:13]  You know, I have a few people on my staff usually that don't like me, but the whole half the country hating you?
[00:00:20]  I think the answer is more one.
[00:00:22]  I think Steve has addressed it real accurately.
[00:00:25]  Give it a little time.
[00:00:26]  You know, the best thing to say is keep leading with what you know.
[00:00:30]  Stay connected with the Lord.
[00:00:32]  Do what you know you need to do.
[00:00:34]  Do it right.
[00:00:35]  Do it with excellence.
[00:00:36]  And give it time, and there'll be a major change take place.
[00:00:39]  I think it's coming.
[00:00:40]  I think we're going to see those numbers flip.
[00:00:42]  It's completely change.
[00:00:45]  More people coming toward him because of his actions, because of what he's getting done, and how he lives.
[00:00:50]  He received so many complaints about his lifestyle long before he was president.
[00:00:55]  You know, most of us don't want to look that far back.
[00:00:57]  We want to look specifically at what he's doing and how is he leading this country.
[00:01:01]  The results speak for themselves.
[00:01:03]  And I think, Pastor Jim, that's going to make the biggest difference.
[00:01:06]  To me, the biggest difference is going to be how he treats people, how he invests in people, how he loves people, and they'll see it over time.
[00:01:12]  Nothing comes quick.
[00:01:14]  Nothing.
[00:01:15]  Most presidents go backwards in their reign.
[00:01:17]  They start off with strong numbers and it declines until they're done.
[00:01:21]  His numbers are getting bigger.
[00:01:22]  His numbers are getting better.
[00:01:23]  Yes, sir.
[00:01:24]  I think you referred somewhere.
[00:01:27]  It's like a civil war between the liberals and conservatives in America.
[00:01:32]  How can we have this war at least quiet down, do you think?
[00:01:38]  Well, first of all, Donald Trump is providing leadership.
[00:01:42]  You know, for a while it was just the drumbeat of political correctness.
[00:01:46]  Now the other is coming, and I believe that it's right.
[00:01:50]  What he's doing is right.
[00:01:53]  And I think as people discover this and as people change, people are going to have to change from wanting a welfare mentality, wanting the government to do everything for them, wanting to be weak internationally and so forth.
[00:02:05]  And as this happens, I think that you'll see a change in our country.

=== God's Reprieve Needed (01:53) ===

[00:02:10]  But you say civil war.
[00:02:12]  This is the third way.
[00:02:13]  We've talked about it being a spiritual war and a culture war.
[00:02:16]  But we're talking about warfare nonetheless because that's really what's happening.
[00:02:22]  But I believe that the war is winnable.
[00:02:25]  And I believe if Hillary Clinton had got involved, it would have been almost like a car going over the cliff.
[00:02:32]  It would have been hard to have, you know, turned things around four or eight years from now.
[00:02:38]  So I believe that God gave us a reprieve.
[00:02:42]  And I quoted lots of leaders like James Robinson and others who said, we have a reprieve now.
[00:02:51]  What do we do with it?
[00:02:52]  Not just politically, but how does the church stand up?
[00:02:56]  Because as we know, a lot of the problems we have in our country is because the church has been so apathetic and so quiet.
[00:03:04]  Do you think he can drain the swamp?
[00:03:07]  I believe that he can.
[00:03:09]  I mean, who would have thought that he could beat all of those contenders in primary?
[00:03:15]  How he could beat the Clinton machine.
[00:03:18]  This isn't just the Democrats.
[00:03:20]  This is the Clinton machine that is more corrupt than anything else.
[00:03:24]  But he's done it.
[00:03:26]  He's winning people over.
[00:03:28]  And the swamp needs to be drained.
[00:03:31]  Yes.
[00:03:31]  And they found some creatures down under there so far.
[00:03:37]  That's right.
[00:03:37]  Well, we live down where there's swamps.
[00:03:39]  We know how nasty they are.
[00:03:43]  But I believe that he will.
[00:03:44]  It's not going to be easy.
[00:03:46]  He needs the Congress behind him.
[00:03:48]  He needs to win another term.
[00:03:50]  You know, whoever is the leader after him, hopefully as Mike Pence, is going to have to continue it.
[00:03:56]  You know, we didn't get into this mess overnight.
[00:03:58]  No.
[00:03:59]  And it's going to take more than 10 months to turn it around.
[00:04:02]  But I believe that will happen.