Jim Bakker Show - Meeting Norma McCorvey - Jim & Lori Bakker
Aired: 2017-03-07
Duration: 04:11


=== Norma's Grief (03:45) ===

[00:00:00]  This week, while Lori and I were away, I looked up at the news.
[00:00:06]  Where was I?
[00:00:06]  In Atlanta.
[00:00:07]  We had just gotten off the plane.
[00:00:09]  We're changing planes.
[00:00:12]  And you looked up, you said, look, look who just, look who just died.
[00:00:17]  And I'm telling you, I looked up at that monitor and I said, oh my God, Jim, something is shifting in the spiritual realm.
[00:00:29]  Oh, my God, you don't even know.
[00:00:31]  I said, oh, my, oh, my, oh, my.
[00:00:34]  Norma McCorby, who was used as the scapegoat, as the pawn.
[00:00:44]  She never had an abortion.
[00:00:47]  We met her.
[00:00:48]  I met her.
[00:00:48]  She was never tied to abortion.
[00:00:51]  She's blamed.
[00:00:53]  She's in the business way.
[00:00:54]  You know.
[00:00:55]  If you don't know who she is, you should all know who she is.
[00:00:57]  Google her.
[00:00:58]  She was the Jane Rose in the room.
[00:01:00]  Lori's talked to her.
[00:01:02]  This woman has never had an abortion.
[00:01:05]  No.
[00:01:06]  She turned against abortion.
[00:01:07]  She didn't want an abortion.
[00:01:09]  They were forcing her to go through with this stuff.
[00:01:13]  And so we have a bill passed because supposedly they're blaming it on her.
[00:01:19]  And her children are alive as far as I know.
[00:01:24]  They're still alive.
[00:01:24]  All adopted out, yes.
[00:01:28]  But she, I said, Jim, this is huge.
[00:01:31]  This is huge in the spiritual realm.
[00:01:33]  I don't even think you get it right now.
[00:01:35]  I said, I can hardly stand it right here.
[00:01:37]  And we were waiting for James to get off the plane.
[00:01:40]  And then I said, excuse me, I need to go to the ladies' room.
[00:01:45]  And I went into the stall of the ladies' room and I just started weeping because this woman who we had the opportunity to tell her how people won't believe what she told you personally.
[00:02:03]  Well.
[00:02:04]  And by the way, the videos of that interview with her.
[00:02:09]  She's right there.
[00:02:10]  She's back in there.
[00:02:11]  She's right.
[00:02:12]  That lady back in.
[00:02:12]  That's Mondo.
[00:02:14]  That's funny Jim Baker with black hair.
[00:02:17]  Strange.
[00:02:18]  But anyway, that's Lori right there.
[00:02:20]  This is important for people to understand.
[00:02:22]  Yes.
[00:02:22]  Lori interviewed her.
[00:02:25]  The world needs to hear it because most people believe a lie.
[00:02:30]  They don't believe that Norma, I believe her name is Norma.
[00:02:34]  Norma McCorby.
[00:02:36]  That I was there with you.
[00:02:38]  What did she say to you?
[00:02:40]  I did privately off camera.
[00:02:42]  I know, because I have dealt so much with post-abortion and all this at Phoenix First Assembly for years and all that.
[00:02:50]  But even though she didn't have an abortion, she had the grief of a post-abortive woman.
[00:02:59]  I mean, her face was drawn.
[00:03:02]  And I said, oh my goodness, you are carrying, at that point, approximately 50 million babies, the blood on your shoulders, the weight of it.
[00:03:17]  And I said, Norma, you've got to allow God to heal you in your innermost being.
[00:03:22]  You've got to let him go there and heal you because, you know, you're a born-again believer now, and God wants to heal you.

=== The Word Torment (00:40) ===

[00:03:30]  You don't have to carry all that around.
[00:03:32]  But she, Monda was there.
[00:03:34]  He remembered that.
[00:03:35]  But they had dumped it on her.
[00:03:36]  Yes.
[00:03:37]  You know what I mean?
[00:03:38]  She was their scapegoat.
[00:03:39]  And this is what they do.
[00:03:41]  Yes.
[00:03:42]  This is what these Antichrist people do.
[00:03:45]  You're the one.
[00:03:46]  She said this powerful word.
[00:03:47]  She looked at you and she said, I have lived the most miserable life any human being can live.
[00:03:54]  She said, at night I hear the baby's cries.
[00:03:56]  Oh, that's torment.
[00:03:58]  Yes.
[00:03:58]  She used the word torment.
[00:04:00]  She did say that, Mondo.
[00:04:01]  That led her to addictions of drugs, alcohol, prescription.
[00:04:06]  She just could not leave the torment of that.
[00:04:10]  That's what she said.