Jim Bakker Show - Revelation in the News: The Most Important News of the Week
Aired: 2017-01-07
Duration: 27:01


=== Huge Prophetic News (02:13) ===

[00:00:00]  If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
[00:00:08]  Well, we are no longer a Christian nation.
[00:00:13]  I believe God is trying to say to this nation, I'm giving you one last merciful call.
[00:00:20]  Hello, everybody, and welcome to today's episode of Revelation in the News.
[00:00:24]  I'm Zach Drew.
[00:00:25]  And I'm Sasha Volsh.
[00:00:27]  And today we have a very special guest with us, and a lot of prophetic news is taking place.
[00:00:32]  I mean, huge news, news that, you know, we have got to cover this week.
[00:00:36]  And we brought in a very special guest with us.
[00:00:38]  His name is Carl Gallups.
[00:00:40]  Now, Carl Gallups, I want to give you a little bit about him before we keep going.
[00:00:43]  Most of you probably already know exactly who he is, but he's been the pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Florida for over 30 years.
[00:00:50]  He's also an Amazon best-selling author, an internationally known conservative talk radio host since 2002.
[00:00:58]  And he's also had featured appearances on Fox News.
[00:01:01]  And he's been called one of America's influential evangelical leaders.
[00:01:06]  He's also been featured on different Christian networks as well, including TBN, TCT, GEB, Daystar, Dove TV.
[00:01:15]  It just keeps going.
[00:01:16]  And CTM.
[00:01:17]  Please give a warm welcome to our friend Carl Gallups.
[00:01:20]  Carl, it's good to have you here.
[00:01:22]  Thank you so much for being with us.
[00:01:24]  It's my honor.
[00:01:24]  This is wonderful.
[00:01:25]  Thank you.
[00:01:26]  A lot of prophetic news is taking place.
[00:01:27]  I'm telling you, you've written some incredible books.
[00:01:29]  Your newest book, When the Lion Roars.
[00:01:32]  If you haven't ordered this book, go to Amazon.
[00:01:34]  Find a way to get this book, When the Lion Roars.
[00:01:38]  And it deals with all of the prophetic events that are happening right now, and even including Israel, even including Russia, and many other prophetic events.
[00:01:48]  And we're going to go right for it.
[00:01:50]  You know this.
[00:01:50]  We're in your homes for alternative news.
[00:01:52]  We go right for the jugular.
[00:01:54]  So I'm going to start off and ask you, Carl, what are your thoughts with Obama actually sending troops, American troops, to the Russian border right now?

=== First Time Rah Puts Troops on Borders (06:20) ===

[00:02:07]  It's complex.
[00:02:08]  Our relationship with Russia over the years as the United States of America has been extremely complex.
[00:02:14]  But right now, what's happening now, just a few weeks before the inauguration of a completely new administration, this seems to many to be an absolute purpose provocation.
[00:02:27]  And people ask, well, where does this tie into prophecy?
[00:02:29]  Well, we shall see, but here's what we know.
[00:02:33]  For the first time in history, since the word of God, the prophetic word of God has been written about the Middle East and a returned Israel and the alignment of nations that would occur behind that.
[00:02:45]  I'm thinking of Ezekiel 38 right now.
[00:02:48]  For the first time, we now see Russia planted in the Middle East, in Syria, in a nation that's collapsing in civil war, with most geopoliticians seeing no way out of it, with military troops conducting military campaigns.
[00:03:05]  China has come to the Middle East, joined all of that.
[00:03:08]  Turkey is the Ottoman Empire rising again, desiring to be the Islamic capital, caliphate of the world.
[00:03:16]  All of that's happening.
[00:03:16]  Israel's in the middle of this.
[00:03:18]  Yes.
[00:03:19]  And then Russia is constantly provoked by the last administration, the Obama administration.
[00:03:29]  And that's another thing.
[00:03:29]  I mean, it really does.
[00:03:30]  It seems like right now that Barack Obama is provoking.
[00:03:33]  He is literally poking the bear.
[00:03:36]  I mean, come on.
[00:03:37]  I mean, to blame it on hacking of the elections, which we're going to talk about.
[00:03:41]  But he recently expelled 35 Russian diplomats.
[00:03:44]  These are the type of things you read about in history books.
[00:03:46]  And hey, puts troops on the borders.
[00:03:47]  And then puts troops on the borders.
[00:03:49]  Days before an inauguration.
[00:03:50]  I mean, that's astounding.
[00:03:52]  Knowing that the next guy coming in is trying to make nice with Russia and the Russian leaders.
[00:03:58]  And because they see this potential, literally, for a World War III scenario in the Middle East that could erupt any day.
[00:04:07]  And it's almost like, and I praise God that as we're speaking now, that has not occurred, a World War III.
[00:04:13]  But if you want to light a match to a World War III, put troops on the Russian border.
[00:04:18]  Expel the Russian.
[00:04:19]  I mean, even Russia didn't turn around and expel the American diplomats because they knew if we do that, it's on.
[00:04:26]  And it's almost like, gee, that Obama wants to spark some type of a conflict.
[00:04:34]  I could be wrong, but that's certainly what it looks like to me.
[00:04:36]  But what would it be?
[00:04:37]  Why would he want to do this right when he's exiting office?
[00:04:40]  Because he's not going to be the one that's commander-in-chief at that point.
[00:04:43]  Yes, President Trump will be in, but what is he getting out of this?
[00:04:47]  Yeah.
[00:04:48]  Who knows what he's thinking?
[00:04:50]  Again, I can only speculate, but I think my speculations are relatively well-reasoned, biblically and geopolitically.
[00:04:57]  And that is, he has signed on to the globalist socialist agenda.
[00:05:04]  I mean, anybody that has studied his writings, they've watched the last eight years.
[00:05:08]  People ask all the time, why?
[00:05:10]  What are they thinking?
[00:05:11]  Why is he doing this?
[00:05:12]  Why is he doing that?
[00:05:13]  Why is he saying this?
[00:05:14]  And I have said so many times, once you get it through your mind that this man is not for us, everything else he does makes sense.
[00:05:24]  You see?
[00:05:24]  That's good.
[00:05:26]  He's not for a constitutional republic, rule of law, rah-rah, apple pie, Chevrolet, hot dogs, America.
[00:05:33]  He's not.
[00:05:34]  He's not for that.
[00:05:35]  He's not for that.
[00:05:37]  He is a proliferator and an element figure of the globalist agenda.
[00:05:46]  So, so what he's doing plugs into that agenda, I do believe, in many complex ways.
[00:05:52]  I don't know we have time to talk about them.
[00:05:54]  But very simply, my answer is, is I think it's just a part of his mentality, his agenda.
[00:06:00]  And his mentality is distinctly anti-Israel.
[00:06:03]  And I think that this move ties into that as well.
[00:06:06]  Yeah.
[00:06:06]  I mean, he is.
[00:06:07]  He's a globalist.
[00:06:08]  He would like a world order.
[00:06:09]  And I pray that what he's trying to do in Jesus' name, that he is just not successful right now, that we can still operate in this brief reprieve that the Lord has given us for the sake of what?
[00:06:18]  I mean, with the election of Donald Trump, you know, God has blessed us again.
[00:06:22]  God is blessing the church right now.
[00:06:24]  But why?
[00:06:25]  Is it just because he's a good and great God?
[00:06:26]  Yes, he is a good and great God, but he has purposes behind the things he does.
[00:06:29]  And the purposes behind the things he does always center around the cross.
[00:06:33]  Always center around the gospel.
[00:06:35]  This is a perfect opportunity right now in this window to continue preaching the gospel.
[00:06:41]  Yeah.
[00:06:42]  Yeah.
[00:06:42]  Guys, you know, there's two things that are happening simultaneously right now.
[00:06:46]  And they're very prophetic.
[00:06:47]  And scholars have been looking for these days for hundreds of years.
[00:06:51]  I preached a message just recently where the two points of it were the incoming and the in-gathering.
[00:06:58]  The incoming is like incoming, you know, the battle's on.
[00:07:02]  Because even with Donald Trump taking office, the temptation, I think, of the church is to say, oh, wow, okay, we've got it.
[00:07:08]  Back to lattes and football games because everything's wonderful.
[00:07:11]  Donald Trump will save us.
[00:07:13]  That's not how God works.
[00:07:14]  Donald Trump, God can use Donald Trump.
[00:07:16]  He can use the agenda of Donald Trump and the people he puts in office.
[00:07:20]  But he, nor our kings or politics or militaries, that's not our savior.
[00:07:25]  In the meantime, the globalist agenda is still strong and active, and they are viciously, desperately terrified of the potential of a Donald Trump, at least the way he's talking, rule and reign, if you will.
[00:07:39]  So there's going to be incoming.
[00:07:41]  I think the globalist Antichrist spirit, and globalism is the spirit of Antichrist, is ramping up.
[00:07:47]  So that's the incoming.
[00:07:48]  But at the same time, there's an in-gathering going on, a last day's harvest, and we have a breath of air, an open window.
[00:07:55]  We better take advantage of it.
[00:07:56]  Millions of Muslims are being saved around the world.
[00:07:59]  China's slated to become the largest Christian nation in the world in just a handful of years.
[00:08:03]  Jews, by the hundreds of thousands, are coming to Christ around the world, tens of thousands in Israel already.

=== Why The Big Deal About Georgia? (03:08) ===

[00:08:10]  So, I mean, so these two things are happening together.
[00:08:12]  Simultaneously, that's awesome.
[00:08:14]  You know, kind of a falling away and apostasy in America's churches.
[00:08:17]  I pray we can recover some of that.
[00:08:19]  Amen.
[00:08:20]  A falling away, but at the same time, an in-gathering around the world, but at the same time, incoming.
[00:08:26]  The war is heated up.
[00:08:27]  Does that make sense?
[00:08:28]  It sure does.
[00:08:29]  Now, this might be an easy question.
[00:08:31]  I'm not really sure, but I'd love to hear your perspective on it.
[00:08:33]  I wrote it down like this, and I want to say exactly how I wrote it.
[00:08:35]  Why do you think that the left is working so hard to make people believe that the Russians played a role in hacking the U.S. elections?
[00:08:44]  And here's another thing.
[00:08:46]  Why now?
[00:08:46]  I have this list right here from the fiscal times right here.
[00:08:50]  Why now?
[00:08:51]  What do you mean, Zach?
[00:08:51]  Why now?
[00:08:52]  Why is the left making a big deal right now?
[00:08:54]  I don't even know if the Russians hacked into the elections.
[00:08:57]  I mean, it sounds really, really ridiculous, but let's say they were.
[00:09:00]  Why are they making a big deal about countries hacking in their systems right now?
[00:09:04]  I have a list right here that just since 2006, the list hasn't come out for 2016, but from 2006 to 2015, there was a 1,300% increase on cyber attacks on our federal buildings, on our federal government.
[00:09:22]  Within 2006, there have been 5,503 cyber attacks on our federal buildings.
[00:09:28]  And it increased substantially over the years.
[00:09:31]  And in 2015, there was a total of 77,000 cyber attacks on our federal buildings.
[00:09:39]  And if the trend simply continues, the numbers for 2016 haven't come out, but if it just simply continues, well, guess what?
[00:09:45]  There are well over 77,000 hacks into our system right now.
[00:09:50]  So if hacks have been going on for the last 10, 15, 20 years, why now are they making such a big deal about it?
[00:09:56]  Well, Sasha, Zach, listen, here's what I think.
[00:09:59]  And you know what I think is correct.
[00:10:03]  This is my biblical, relatively learned opinion.
[00:10:06]  But here's the deal.
[00:10:08]  First of all, I find it extremely hypocritical that the Obama, Obama, and the Obama administration would be pointing a finger at Russia as though they have done the unspeakable, the unpardonable.
[00:10:19]  And we don't even know that they've done it, but let's just assume.
[00:10:22]  Because during our election, it was the state of Georgia that said we have evidence because of our outside monitors.
[00:10:29]  They've hired these mega international companies to monitor their equipment.
[00:10:33]  The DHS hacked the state of Georgia.
[00:10:36]  Wow.
[00:10:37]  And that was in headline news, which Obama kind of is the head of all of that.
[00:10:43]  So our own government was hacking our own states, according to Georgia, the Secretary of State of Georgia.
[00:10:49]  Not only that, but we know in the last Israeli election, that was in headline news.
[00:10:54]  Obama himself tried to influence it, pumped hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to get Benjamin Netanyahu out.

=== U.N. Resolution and Division (15:34) ===

[00:11:00]  Now they suspect that Russia might have had something to do here, and he's acting like the unspeakable, the unforgivable has happened.
[00:11:08]  All right, now, so there's the hypocrisy.
[00:11:10]  But you asked, you asked me why?
[00:11:13]  I think, well, again, it's very complex, but let me boil it down and make it simple.
[00:11:17]  And for those of you that know more than I do about it, please forgive the simplicity of this answer.
[00:11:21]  But I think it really is as simple as this.
[00:11:23]  I think the reason is they are desperately trying to delegitimize, thus take some steam and the air that Trump is getting ready to suck out of the room.
[00:11:34]  They're trying to pump it back in for their cause because think of this.
[00:11:38]  If Donald Trump is a man of his word, and I think he is, and if he can pull off half of what he's promised, he will set back the globalist agenda 50 years.
[00:11:49]  Maybe more than that, because watch, if he is able to appoint Supreme Court justices that are very conservative, now we're finding out the 9th District Court of Appeals, the most liberal federal court system in America.
[00:12:02]  It looks like there may be three or four judges on that in the next few years that are going to go off.
[00:12:08]  That's been in the mainstream media lately.
[00:12:10]  If Donald Trump can replace that, turn that into a conservative district, and then that's just in the first four years.
[00:12:17]  If he wins another four years, there could be two or three other Supreme Court justices off because some of them are in their 80s and health concerns.
[00:12:24]  He could transform, and then if behind him Mike Pence or some other conservative person wins on the coattails of Trump and they're in their four years or eight years, it could be 16 years.
[00:12:35]  That could reverse the globalist agenda by decades because here's the deal: the United States, let's just say it like this.
[00:12:43]  I know this sounds arrogant because we're sitting here as citizens of the United States, but it's biblical and it's spiritual and it's geopolitical truth.
[00:12:51]  The United States of America is the largest Christian nation the planet has seen in 2,000 years since the church was born.
[00:12:59]  We have the largest Christian influence in the world, the most powerful military, the most powerful economic engine.
[00:13:06]  When the world gets in trouble, the first people they look to are us.
[00:13:10]  We stand in the way of the globalist agenda.
[00:13:13]  And we are strong because of our First Amendment, because of our Second Amendment.
[00:13:17]  That's what the last eight years they've attacked, First Amendment, Second Amendment, trying to chip away.
[00:13:22]  And so now, along comes a guy like Donald Trump, who I don't think is the savior of America, but if he pulls off half of what he wants to pull off, he could devastate and put back.
[00:13:33]  And I'm telling you, the globalist agenda, I'm telling you, they're panicking, they're furious, they're infuriated.
[00:13:39]  And what this is about, I believe, is trying to delegitimize Donald Trump, suck the air out of the room, and to somehow continue to promote their agenda.
[00:13:48]  That's what I think.
[00:13:48]  And that's why, and I know we're going to move to Israel, and Sasha has a great question about Israel.
[00:13:53]  But right before we do that, you know, I just want to say that is why the left hates Donald Trump.
[00:13:58]  That is why the left hates nationalism.
[00:14:02]  The left loves globalization, uniting the countries, just getting us set up for the anti-crisis.
[00:14:08]  Exactly.
[00:14:08]  Because nationalism, Donald Trump, you and I, patriots of America, nationalism stands in the way of globalism.
[00:14:16]  Because if you love America, if you love your country, then you're not going to be for this national socialistic where all countries are on the equal playing field because you love America.
[00:14:26]  Nationalism stands in the way, and that's why there's this perverted twisting of history in our schools today that are being taught to millennials and younger people now like my.
[00:14:36]  And when you read the history books, you think to yourself, that is not true American history.
[00:14:45]  It's a globalistic history.
[00:14:47]  They have rewritten it.
[00:14:48]  So why?
[00:14:49]  Because they don't want you to be patriotic.
[00:14:51]  They don't want you to be nationalist.
[00:14:53]  They don't want you to love your country because that stands in the way of globalism.
[00:14:56]  And not nationalism, everything you said, I'm on board 1,000%.
[00:15:00]  But not just nationalism, what I'm getting ready to say is the foundation of nationalism, but national sovereignty.
[00:15:08]  And we have the power to back it up and the unity of a nation to back it up, which is why they have been trying to divide and conquer us for the last eight years.
[00:15:17]  You break down that unity, you lose the power, and you begin to lose your sovereignty.
[00:15:22]  It's the national sovereignty that the Constitution represents, that America represents, that Trump adheres to and represents, that Pence hears to and represents, that the people they're surrounding themselves, the people they're putting on the cabinet, national sovereignty, national sovereignty, national sovereignty.
[00:15:39]  And the globalists are absolutely in a frenzied panic.
[00:15:43]  Praise God.
[00:15:44]  Yes, thank you.
[00:15:45]  Thank you.
[00:15:46]  We're living in very spiritual and prophetic times, guys.
[00:15:49]  Can't you just see Paul, Ephesians 6, about, look, you see it happening in the flesh and blood, but this battle is in principalities and powers in the divine realm.
[00:16:00]  I mean, there are spiritual battles going on, like in Daniel's day when he was praying and the angel came to him and said, man, I had to fight the Prince of Persia first, but now I'm here.
[00:16:08]  I mean, there are two dimensions of this battle.
[00:16:12]  It's so true.
[00:16:12]  And right now, we are looking at potentially one of the greatest moves of prophecy in our modern time.
[00:16:19]  And I just wanted to ask you: right now, the U.N. has just passed a resolution that could potentially divide the land of Israel greater than we've ever seen in our modern times.
[00:16:27]  What are your thoughts about this resolution of Obama?
[00:16:31]  Yeah.
[00:16:31]  Oh, with total support.
[00:16:32]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:16:33]  Here's what my thoughts are.
[00:16:35]  You say it could potentially divide the land?
[00:16:38]  Greater than that, it could potentially spark World War III because Israel's not going to divide the land, not back to the 1967 borders.
[00:16:45]  If they do, that means their destruction.
[00:16:47]  They cannot defend themselves.
[00:16:48]  They can barely, when I say barely defend themselves now, I'm not disparaging the Israeli military capabilities.
[00:16:56]  I'm saying they're just a tiny sliver of land surrounded by enemies on every side and the ocean on the other side.
[00:17:04]  They're backed up against the sea, literally like the children of Israel in the Red Sea.
[00:17:08]  There they are.
[00:17:09]  And here comes Pharaoh's armies.
[00:17:11]  So this UN resolution, it's a do or die for them.
[00:17:14]  I mean, one of their national mottos is never again.
[00:17:17]  And they do not intend to go to ovens again.
[00:17:21]  They will fight to the death.
[00:17:22]  So that resolution could spark World War III.
[00:17:25]  And that's with no sensationalism attached.
[00:17:27]  They've said it.
[00:17:28]  Other nations are saying it.
[00:17:30]  Other world leaders are saying it.
[00:17:31]  And we were just talking before the show in the green room, January 15th.
[00:17:37]  Mark down that day because there is a lot of talk right now that there is a lot of chatter that there's going to be another United Nations type of resolution where they will actually could possibly officially say that Palestinian is its own state.
[00:17:57]  Five days before the inauguration of the president, the next leader of the free world who disagrees completely with that philosophy, five days before there's the possibility that the United Nations will do this.
[00:18:10]  Yeah.
[00:18:10]  And the United Nations, I need you to focus in on what we're saying right now.
[00:18:16]  That if the United Nations goes and actually does this and officially says that that land is a Palestinian state and no longer belongs to Israel whatsoever, that is going to cause a huge war and possibly World War III.
[00:18:32]  Why?
[00:18:33]  Because, well, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel is not going to have any of that.
[00:18:41]  I believe he is literally just going to buck the system and he's going to do one of these right to the United Nations with the support of the most powerful human being in the world, and that would be the president of the United States, Donald Trump.
[00:18:57]  So he would be doing that, going against the United Nations, and has the backing of America.
[00:19:05]  This would literally start a huge war.
[00:19:08]  Yeah.
[00:19:08]  No, I agree.
[00:19:10]  And listen, I've got contacts inside of Israel, several, but one man in particular who was born and raised there, speaks the language as his first language, speaks English as well.
[00:19:21]  He was in an Orthodox family, was studying to be a rabbi, became a Christian, so he's a Messianic Orthodox rabbi now and Jew but Christian.
[00:19:30]  And he told me just a couple of days ago, he said that Israel, the people of Israel, the man on the street right now, because of all the things we're talking about, they know that they're up against a potential World War III, but they define it like this.
[00:19:47]  This is the definition of the men on the street, when I say men, people on the street.
[00:19:53]  He said to me, he said, Carl, here's what we're saying, and here's what we're thinking.
[00:19:56]  It's not a matter of the Ezekiel 38 prophecy coming to life.
[00:20:01]  We are now in the midst of it.
[00:20:03]  The question is, where are we on the timeline?
[00:20:07]  He said, but this is the Ezekiel 38 prophecy that happens after the Ezekiel 37 prophecy, which is Israel returns in the last days.
[00:20:16]  Then the nations align and hooks are put in jaws and nations are dragged into this.
[00:20:21]  And we're watching this, the expulsion of Russia's thing, putting troops on Russia's borders, United Nations resolutions, chatter about Palestine, raising the flag, declaring a nation.
[00:20:31]  I mean, that will touch off a World War III centered in the Middle East, which is the description of Ezekiel 38.
[00:20:39]  And the people in Israel are saying, according to him, I don't know.
[00:20:42]  I'm not there, but he tells me, he brought this up.
[00:20:45]  I didn't even ask him about it.
[00:20:46]  He says, our deal is we're there and we know we're there.
[00:20:51]  We just don't know exactly where on this timeline we are, how close it is.
[00:20:55]  That's in Israel.
[00:20:56]  That's incredible.
[00:20:57]  If that's not prophetic, I don't know.
[00:20:59]  I know.
[00:20:59]  I mean, I'm excited.
[00:21:00]  I mean, this is an exciting show because it just once again shows you that this book, the Holy Bible, is alive and active, and it is all capital letters, truth.
[00:21:13]  It is the truth.
[00:21:14]  And it is exciting.
[00:21:16]  I mean, Jesus is real.
[00:21:18]  Jesus is awesome.
[00:21:19]  And he's still at work right now in the world.
[00:21:22]  And you know what's really cool?
[00:21:23]  Ezekiel 39 says, one of the things that it says is, is that when all of this happens, when Israel comes back, God says, when I bring them out from the nations, I bring them here.
[00:21:31]  And when all these nations align, he said, I'm doing this as a testimony to all the other nations that I alone am God.
[00:21:38]  What you just said.
[00:21:39]  That's the word of God.
[00:21:40]  Yahweh is the God of God's King of kings, Lord of Lords, and Israel is his witness.
[00:21:45]  And so is the church in the last days.
[00:21:47]  But what's happening in the Middle East right now is witness to that word.
[00:21:50]  Yeah.
[00:21:52]  You know, we only have a few more minutes left, and I want to make sure we get this news in really quickly.
[00:21:57]  You know, Donald Trump has actually even stated within the Republican platform.
[00:22:03]  He had stated this, and so it's in writing, not just, you know, he's obviously said it as well, but he's going to move the, oh my goodness, my capital.
[00:22:14]  Nope, not the capital.
[00:22:15]  The embassy.
[00:22:16]  Oh, the embassy, yes, to Jerusalem.
[00:22:18]  I know what you're talking about.
[00:22:18]  I had to read your mind, bro, but I got it.
[00:22:20]  So, yes, so actually, it's been stated in the Republican National Platform that Donald Trump is going to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
[00:22:32]  Right.
[00:22:33]  Because he believes, and it says it in the platform, that he believes that Jerusalem is the eternal and indivisible capital of Israel.
[00:22:42]  And I'm telling you right now that whenever you do good things today, it makes bad people worse.
[00:22:49]  Bad things worse.
[00:22:50]  When good people do good things, it makes bad people angry.
[00:22:53]  And so I am a huge proponent.
[00:22:54]  I am two thumbs up to Donald Trump if he recognizes that, if he does that.
[00:22:59]  But that once again will also cause incoming, exactly, and major bloodshed.
[00:23:04]  And I actually have an article here.
[00:23:05]  It says Palestinian official threatens bloodshed over Trump settlements policy and also declaring that he will move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
[00:23:17]  Right.
[00:23:18]  I mean, this is just where we are.
[00:23:19]  Right.
[00:23:19]  It's just adding up and adding up.
[00:23:21]  I say it like this, and you've heard me say it many times before.
[00:23:23]  I don't know if your audience has heard me say it, but listen, we are living in the most profoundly prophetic times since the first coming of Jesus Christ.
[00:23:32]  Absolutely.
[00:23:33]  I mean, there's no denying it.
[00:23:35]  And the big boom of prophecy that we're living behind is the return of Israel.
[00:23:40]  The next big boom of prophecy is the second coming of Jesus Christ.
[00:23:44]  we're right between those two major thrusts and foundations of the prophetic word of God.
[00:23:52]  We have been raised up for such a time as this.
[00:23:55]  Absolutely.
[00:23:55]  And now, Carl, just to wrap it up, do you feel like the spirit realm has changed recently?
[00:24:00]  Like, did God change, possibly change his mind and give the Christians a time window that they could be able to take back more ground?
[00:24:07]  You know, that's an excellent question.
[00:24:09]  As far as a lot of people are out there saying that, sorry to interrupt, a lot of people are out there saying right now, Donald Trump is the winner.
[00:24:16]  We're going to have more time.
[00:24:17]  We're going to be able to press forward and do more.
[00:24:19]  But do you feel this?
[00:24:21]  Yes, I do.
[00:24:22]  Listen, I liken it to Abraham's prayer over Sodom and Gomorrah.
[00:24:26]  And God listened to that.
[00:24:27]  And God even, and I'm going to use this word, it's a human term.
[00:24:30]  God doesn't bargain with anybody, but he bargained with him, you know?
[00:24:34]  And Abraham said, look, if there's 50 people, would you spare?
[00:24:36]  Yeah, but there's not.
[00:24:37]  Well, if there's 40, would you?
[00:24:39]  Yeah, I would, but there's not.
[00:24:41]  And, you know, the rest of that account.
[00:24:43]  So I think it's like this.
[00:24:44]  I think the church woke up finally.
[00:24:47]  And your show, the Jim Baker show, other shows like that were hugely instrumental in waking the church up.
[00:24:54]  We prayed.
[00:24:55]  So many people were calling out in repentance and we were calling out, God, if you could give us some breathing room, if you could open this window, if you could shine the light.
[00:25:04]  And so I think that's what's happened.
[00:25:06]  I think that the Lord has done that.
[00:25:08]  Now, here's the deal: God's word will come to pass.
[00:25:12]  There will rise a generation where globalism wins out.
[00:25:15]  There will be an Antichrist.
[00:25:16]  There will be some kind of horrific war in the Middle East.
[00:25:20]  But in the meantime, God allows us to be a part of that assembly with him, of his people, his spirit-filled people.
[00:25:29]  And he allows us to be his ambassadors and to do the work.
[00:25:33]  And we petition him.
[00:25:34]  And so we say he changes his mind.
[00:25:36]  What does that mean?
[00:25:36]  Well, he directs the affairs of men, but he also directs our hearts.
[00:25:40]  And when we cry out to him as a people, he can turn a corner.
[00:25:45]  That doesn't mean the end result's not going to happen.
[00:25:48]  But he can give areas of protection and freshness and breath.
[00:25:51]  And I think that's where we are right now.
[00:25:53]  I think we have a window.
[00:25:54]  And I think it depends upon what we do with that, what God does next.
[00:25:58]  That's my best assessment.
[00:26:00]  I'm in agreement with you.
[00:26:01]  I just want to thank you, Pastor Carl Gallups.
[00:26:04]  I want to thank you for being on the show with us here today.
[00:26:07]  I hope you come back.
[00:26:08]  Thank you.
[00:26:09]  Thank you so much.
[00:26:10]  And remember, go and check out his newest book, When the Lion Roars.
[00:26:16]  It's understanding the implications of ancient prophecies for our time.

=== The Stage Is Set (00:43) ===

[00:26:21]  You know, we kind of describe it as this.
[00:26:23]  If the end times is a play, before you get a play ready, you have to set the stage.
[00:26:30]  You have to get all the elements in place.
[00:26:32]  Well, this end times play, all the elements are in place.
[00:26:38]  The last thing that has to be done is the curtain is drawn, and that could literally happen at any moment.
[00:26:44]  And that book, When the Lion Roars, will just kind of be a great and deep, but an overview of just where are we in prophetic times.
[00:26:56]  Thank you, Pastor Carl, for being with us today.
[00:26:58]  My honor.
[00:26:59]  This has been Revelation in the News.